Are THESE POKEMON UNUSABLE NEXT SEASON | Analyzing NERFED POKEMON | Pokemon GO Battle League

[@nattylo18]

Rip the blood sweat and tears I put towards my medicham

[@dgi012]

For reals. As soon as people build up medi, they introduce annihilape. And now that people have that, counter is nerfed...

[@StreamGuy1]

Damn

[@Liminal-Lagomorph]

Guess you didn’t watch the vid because Dan says psycho cut medi is viable

[@chewypr]

I feel you sir...I built one too recently for it to drop off after this nerf 😅

[@joaquinnavajo3939]

I think a double nuke medi with Psycut might be alright

[@oso_quik_wit_itrush7632]

I’m going to stir up the comments by saying Hydro Cannon needs a nerf…….

[@antitrustjosh]

You should do a series on Pokemon that do not currently have play, but are one move away from being good, so we should keep a couple.

[@bigocean415]

I would be interested in seeing that

[@johnweig4667]

The big advantage of psycho cut is that medi is sooo tanky and all carate shop user are glass canons. I used medi right now at 2900 and it was okayish. Also psycho cut and ice punch are both super effective against clodsire. Fliers gone? Medi is nice

[@antitrustjosh]

glad i just dumped 300k stardust into an excellent IVs poliwrath for UL , and 500k for perfect hundo annihilape for ML (this one was more for fun). I've also been cursing my phone everytime I got a Pancham from a 12k egg and immediately transferring, guess I shouldnt have done that!

[@Sapnotaj]

Hey, I don't think theyre automatically bad investments. Poli is still good I'd say and the Ape will get community day treatment for sure!

[@Bajajaba480]

Lol I got like 5 pancham from 9 eggs the day before pancham update... 😅 yaaaa you already know what happened to them... 😂😅😂

[@ELMOisINNOCENT]

I can see the only counter mon getting any use this season will probably be Poliwrath as a direct answer to Feraligatr

[@CORVETTE0611]

PUP Poli is crazy oppressive

[@dcarvalho6144]

I wonder how things would look like if Niantic made Wing Attack a clone of Poison Jab, generating less energy but doing more damage, giving it's users more fast move pressure. I'd say Karate Chop might need a nerf, reducing the damage by one. The same for Rollout and Sucker Punch, and maybe Astonish. It would be cool to see PVPoke testing out different move rebalance ideas, to try to find the optimal balance. Plenty of moves could be updated to become usable.

[@bigocean415]

One thing that really annoys me about the counter nerf is if you look at the top fighters now it’s Pangoro (really hard to get GL eligible) and Machamp with a legacy fast move. At least Annihilape was accessible

[@omarholder9036]

If Machamp is not accessible I don't know what is. It's literally in every event and they give you free elite tms every season. Shadow Machoo has been in both grunts and leader rotatio for the last half a year. And you had not one but 2 frustration events last season. Pretty fucking available if you ask me

[@bigocean415]

@@omarholder9036 yes, Machamp is easy to come by, I just find it annoying you have to have evolved one at the right time or use 2 elite TMs to get the right move set

[@0kayegs577]

Lets not forget that a simulation only can depict as much of a real time meta. All of these pokemons are nerfed yes, they are worse yes. They might still suprise you with how much meta play they have. Remember that sometimes it is better to not be on the spotlight. For example, annihilape was the best pokemon of the current season right? That made the current meta strategy is to run teams with at least 2 annihilape counters, hard targeting it. Next season, no one will care about annihilape. Everyone will target clodsire or dunsparce or feraligatr. Hello annihilape with no hard targets, not a meta menace again but also having some meta play. So do not worry about getting your pokemons nerfed. Just this season I've seen people with noctowls and medichams and walreins in high elo ranks.

[@alfiesmullet1311]

They always do this... first they gave anine and politoad weather ball, they got overused, nerfed and completely killed all the pokemon that were fine with weather ball before...then they gave hoot hoot sky attack and had to nerf it.. then they did the same thing giving steelix breaking swipes and had to nerf it, killing rayquaza.. and then they gave poliwrath counter.. it got overused and it ruined all the other counter users... RIP my favorite pokemon Scrafty..

[@CORVETTE0611]

Poli wasn’t the reason for the counter nerf be so fr

[@naturn3]

Annihilape was the main mon guilty for causing the energy nerf since annihilape up energy was very oppressive

[@garczmen3291]

I know Anihilape was OP, I get it they should have nerf it, but dropping from #3 to #140 is like, bit too extreme I guess? I wrote that under some other clip but I can repeat: what is the point of throwing one OP mon and replace it with Clodsire or whatever goiing to be as op if not more this season? Unless you want money and time from people grinding new meta, that is obvious.

[@theferrantebrothers3064]

This season if you notice the numbers (out of 100 in pvpoke). are much more densely populated than previous seasons. With feraligatr i don’t see clodsire being as everywhere as annihilape.

[@sp00g37]

Did you not get bored with the meta? I'm over seeing lanturn

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

Switching it up. This type of massive update is very good for any competitive game and I hope we get one of these every year going forward.

[@XanBcoo]

​@@sp00g37and so the plan is to just make people sick of Clodsire next season?

[@omarholder9036]

1. You should not have to grind Clodsire at all. It was released with a comm day and has been in several events since. 2. These ratings are subject to change. The reason Annihilape is suffering so bad is because they have it on the Shadow ball moveset and with the Counter nerf, it takes 10 counters to reach one Shadow ball, but if you know math, you still reach Close Combat in the old Shadow Ball pacing, which is 8. I expect Annihilape to pivot away from Shadow Ball eventually

[@muddkipp_1]

i stayed the course, New Season is coming up Millhouse, thank Dan

[@danieliusblackius1130]

I actually standardly setup a GL and UL-viable version of every new pokemon that comes out... and keep versions for every pokemon that I already have. They may not be powered up at the moment, but I have them named according to the CP they reach for the GBL league I intend them for. So for any new season, I likely have the pokemon that will be meta already setup to be built into a viable battler. It is a strategy that has come in handy quite often. For example: I already had a shadow Feraligatr last season that would hit 2500 CP exactly. Just had to power it up and double-move it.

[@synchronicities3339]

Same. Because why not? lol I have a hard time letting go. Always swapping for the better IV’s. I’m a pokemon hoarder. I also have a little cup league.

[@danieliusblackius1130]

@@synchronicities3339 Haha- same here with Little Cup. Probably a ton of Pokemon I will just never use... but I am ready! And I hear you on the swapping to better IVs... although I die a little inside each time I need to double-move a Pokemon I already had a GBL-ready version double-moved.

[@Olin112]

Some of these nerfs seemed unnecessarily harsh. Did they need to nerf sky attack as well when they already nerfed steel wing? Would it have been possible to keep some of these top 20-10 pokemon more in the top 50-70 range instead of like 150?

[@Olin112]

I will say, I am glad annihilape might be gone, that pokemon was so unhealthy and toxic. Night slash pacing and boosts with the bait vs shadow ball. I think it and gligar were like the hardest pokemon to beat in open great league

[@johnweig4667]

Behind the fall? New series?

[@maganhassan2627]

How comes the base power is different to the ones shown on pvpoke when you look at the move info?

[@MatthewJrP]

I have like no good Pokémon for next season 💀 well at least Pokémon that go good together

[@poke_drake0528]

That’s why you should always save Pokémon that seem 🗑 but could be good in the future, especially those who have good PvP ivs

[@krishnachaitanya846]

I'm so glad I didn't build my Rank 3 Licki

[@michaelrichards1323]

I caught a rank 3 XL the day after they announced the changes.

[@SoundScienceMediaWorks]

I powered up my rank 1 like a month ago …

[@omarholder9036]

It's ranked 59....

[@krishnachaitanya846]

@@omarholder9036 it loses so many neutral match-ups which it used to win

[@omarholder9036]

@@krishnachaitanya846 I think you're missing my point. Those matchups used to be won because it was Overpowered, not because it was supposed to win them. It won them because it was too good. It was overall an unhealthy expectation for the Open Great League meta with how hard they made it to be acquired. Now it's just strong. Lickitung used to be able to safe swap with impunity into the meta and it didn't matter what fighter you countered it with, it pressured everything with Lick+Body Slam. The fighters that countered it, Scrafty and Pangoro, could never get into the meta, because people abused the fighters that resisted fighting to pair with it, whether that was Deoxys or Medicham or then Annihilape. When Noctowl ruled Lickitung fell off because you finally had a Mon that could resist its Lick pressure and take on the fighters with good bulk. But the truth is, Lickitung is still better than every normal not named Wigglytuff into every meta fighter in the great League bar none. You will find Lickilicky and Dunsparce to be particularly bad into fighters by comparison.

[@WhatTheHec84]

I have a medi built, and two Poliwraths, a rank1 for GL and an XL for UL 😢

[@joaquinnavajo3939]

And you change a 1 into a zero

[@raymondocool694]

Don’t let these nerfs deter you! I’ve only ever played “unusable” Pokémon and have made legend ! And now those same Unusable Pokémon are very strong. Show some heart and stick with the pkmn that carried all your meta bum asses HAHAHAH

[@yeezus1145]

psycho cut medi🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@ryanformeck8017]

What is this Geomancy I see?

[@ThomasoElg]

legacy on Xerneas.

[@attackpuffin]

special fairy-type fast attack for Xerneas

[@RealTimePogo]

I can’t wait to see how my 100% Machop does next season.

[@ssj2trunks103]

In masters Terrible! At the other leagues terrible as well! Not good IVs for 2 leagues not playable for the other! Lol

[@thalasyus]

Badly. You need PVP IVs for the Great League, not 100% IVs

[@RealTimePogo]

@@ssj2trunks103 that’s funny I have been having fun with it

[@RealTimePogo]

@@thalasyus 100% level 50 1445. Seems good to me

[@danieliusblackius1130]

@@thalasyus & ​ @ssj2trunks103 - you guys are just displaying your ignorance. If a Pokemon doesn't even hit 1500 at its max (which Machop doesn't), then the very BEST version of that Pokemon you could have for great League is the 100% IV version. Facts.

[@tylerf6583]

Hey