Are These The Worst Corners In Sim Racing?

[@pineapplepizzagaming8018]

Definitely the first chicane from Monza for me, I can't just get the hang of it no matter how much I try

[@ChrisHaye]

That'll be the Linus avatar - can't brake properly in sandals.

[@regibson23]

Pretty much the entirety of Monza for me.

[@pineapplepizzagaming8018]

@@ChrisHaye lmaoooo

[@AKILASANKA]

That feeling when you survive turn 1 at monza😂

[@StevePhoenix]

It's doubly frustrating because it's a hard corner that could have been much better if it was less sharp. If the 2 corners were 60 degrees with tall curbs, it would have much the same effect in terms of slowing everyone down, but without the blood sacrifices to the gods of speed every time someone decides to dive to the inside. Even in IRL racing, Monza T1 is a mess. That's why I consider it the most overrated track out there.

[@flyingphoenix113]

I would have said the chicane at the end of Spa. It's not the worst on its own, and it does even create some overtaking, but it's awful compared to the brilliant bus stop chicane that preceded it.

[@ChrisHaye]

Yeah, I live in this strange space where I still call it Bus Stop, but complain about how it's not as good as Bus Stop :D

[@Frankestein01nl]

Yup, same here... But probably only because i know the classic and the previous versions of this track that i really, REALLY dislike the current T-last at Spa.

[@NeilTodd]

Agree. My favourite circuit but the number of times I have messed up this last corner while on the last lap..!!

[@_RETROFIX_]

Same thing about monza... The old two chicanes were much better.

[@Stanley-rq6vv]

Previous Bus Stop chicane also wasn't really liked, at least initially. In fact, that's why it was called Bus Stop - slow, clumsy, nothing like the rest of the Spa circuit. Everyone got used to it, we'll get used to current one as well. Although I'm not a big fan too.

[@isaacg1]

I actually find the Zolder chicanes quite fun.

[@flo6119]

True

[@Wigwahm]

Zolder is a nightmare in traffic. There is no room for overtaking, and the chicanes are as such that you lose momentum if you get it wrong.

[@flo6119]

@@Wigwahm but if you get it right it is one of the most rewarding things in acc

[@flo6119]

@@Bigboss-1132 the laptime would be so short 😂

[@kimi20F1c]

First one sucks in my opinion. Like the other two, though...

[@aragon22155]

I think the larger issue with those corners are that they feel really forced in. Mount panorama has the hardest corners imo but it feels like it flows with the terrain and is meant to be there.

[@BenUK1981]

Worst corners? Surely you can sum it all up by simply saying “Abu Dhabi”.

[@ChrisHaye]

I'm not sure any of them are all that bad. Bad would imply that they inspire any sort of emotion what-so-ever. Really, it's just 5.5km of meh!

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

@@ChrisHaye Half of circuit is made of 90° corners...

[@AntoniusTyas]

Abu Dhabi is 5.5km of wasted tarmac. The blancmange of racetrack.

[@gaiushohlenus509]

@@gameboyterrorysta6307 in russia everything us almost 90° except turn 3 or 4 (the never ending turn)

[@vsm1456]

"the first sector is fine" - Kimi

[@jacobsecor5015]

I feel like now you need to do a video on "Best Chicanes in Sim Racing"

[@ryanwhitlock7350]

Road Atlanta.

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

@@ryanwhitlock7350 i was gonna say "road atlanta is an entire circuit". But after some consideration i agree road atlanta are the best chicanes

[@ryanwhitlock7350]

@@alieffauzanrizky7202 Yeah, I should've clarified. The back straight chicane at Road Atlanta is a great overtaking zone, it doesn't break flow, it's got fun elevation change before and after, and it still does the job of slowing the cars down before the final corner.

[@Nobody73000]

Idk, if youre talking about chicanes we definately cannot forget about Laguna Seca. Going through that downhill chicane feels great every time!

[@anperson8329]

Hatzenbach?

[@Glaythosen]

You killed me with that "Monza brings simmers together" line Chris, lovely content =)

[@JakePetrolhead]

For me, it has to be my least favourite turn in Motorsport - Oschersleben, turn one. In the immortal words of John "I'm going for first says" Cleland - "The guy who designed that first corner should be taken into a dark room and beat about the head".

[@armandolemanso3954]

lol, exactly 😂don't know whether I met worse turn in my life. For the first time, I spun or went off in every car I tried

[@DE_JOTT]

you mean the slow GP version? the moto version is actually fun in a GT

[@aeiouxs]

I must be weird, I quite like it... well... the second part of it I guess... :D

[@joeogle7729]

That John Cleland quote can also be applied to Hanoi on F1 2020. The last corner and first sector. That section and chemical weapons. Both are crimes against humanity.

[@kimjuddpersonal]

Don't get why everyone's hatin' on the first Zolder chicane. I love it, because when you perfectly thread your car between those two curbs it feels amazing.

[@Majin_Fuu]

Or when you're driving the battle barge and send it off the first curb and get that angle just right out of the second

[@yeetusdeletus9]

@@Majin_Fuu that chicane is hilarious when you drive a normal road car instead of a gt3 or similar. You can just full send it over the first curb 😂

[@Sternendrache11]

7:45 "... slow and awkward nature of - well every chicane ever..." *Enna Pergusa wants to know your location *

[@IanLWRC]

Don't even 😂😂😂

[@IanLWRC]

Tbh. They have done the best they can considering there is a hill on the left and lake on the right

[@IanLWRC]

@@ignaciosagastibeltza5892 it’s a very fun track yea. Plus it gave my team P2 at Coppa Florio so that's also great! 😜

[@LupusAries]

@@ignaciosagastibeltza5892 and they are not boring at all, due to the tire barriers!😂

[@cbr3220]

*Old Hockenheim would like to know your location*

[@joeogle7729]

sochi turn 2. It just doesn't work and It's so half-arsed. The track limits are a nightmare because the racing line has you go off the track. And you simply can't fit 2 cars through it so you can't overtake through it. And finally The way the barriers are designed means cars get reflected back onto the following turn. The one incredible thing about Sochi though is it has the ability to drive me bored to tears after about 5 laps. No other circuit manages that for me. Not even Abu Dhabi...

[@zmotorsport2815]

Sochi is indeed a crime against humanity.

[@DocHalliday]

The arena section at Nurburgring is where I always lose time. The entire 3rd sector of Fuji is where I lose my mind.

[@ns4529]

Oh man, I know.. That's the worst part of it. You can easily loose 1-2 seconds over there without even knowing

[@Kurosaka]

exactly why I dont drive in fuji

[@a_yan6581]

The last 3 corners there are god awful.

[@TheStargov]

I think the last 3 corners are awesome.

[@TheRealSonicBeats]

*See's Zolder* So what you're saying is people responded with corner's they're bad at? Are they frustrating? Yes, are they bad, no.

[@vsm1456]

seems like that

[@v1nny12]

Sainte Devot has entered the chat

[@makuntizichi157]

Well honestly monza and catalunya are pretty bad considering they replace a great previous section of the track

[@psyaviah]

Master the corners, learn them, even if they're stinkers... Nothing is perfect and well, some love these tricky corners... I love Zolder for example, it's an art to take those chicanes, it is very technical.

[@akshaypatel3998]

That castle section chicane thingy at Baku street circuit is fairly disgusting too.

[@ChrisHaye]

Yeah, I think that just about scraped into the top 10 on the twitter thread. It's awkard as hell, but gets bonus points for looking dramatic on TV ;)

[@GekkonidaeKing]

The entire circuit is a devils thing

[@GekkonidaeKing]

The entire circuit is a devils thing

[@Route765]

It’s pretty bad, but IMO it’s not bad enough to be in a Top 10 list

[@joeydallas2383]

Nahhh all of Baku is awesome.

[@declanbowler7379]

Disagree regarding Zolder, though the first chicane is a bit brutal, it sort of creates a staccato rhythm to the circuit, though I do agree all of Paul Ricard is awful, and that the Nurburgring Mercedes arena is simply there to make the lap longer and stop you having too much fun.

[@Glaythosen]

Also like Zolder quite a bit =)

[@maceocapietto4090]

I love the first Nurburgring part, so fun the hairpin with the drop and the long left where you need to prepare the right

[@vsm1456]

Declan, yeah, somehow it's the last chicane that is my least liked in Zolder, or maybe only the entry of that chicane while the exit is quite satisfying if you hit it right.

[@davifonsecaribeiro2215]

Totally agree about Nurburgring Mercedes Arena. Only serves to extend the circuit. Very boring!

[@mkaczynski4]

Whole sector 3 of the modern Fuji. It's a pain in the ass everytime I have to go through it, can never get the line right

[@j.821]

The final turns / final sector at Fuji. I dont know how anyone desinged that and thought it was a good idea.

[@edteach3r]

“seizure-inducing stripes” ... the most apt description of this now-soulless circuit I have ever heard!

[@x-90]

That one corner in the Nurburgring where if you go wide you fly, but if you turn in early you spin out Monza first chicane. Sebring bumps are always annoying

[@maximilianwerner4029]

I actually love the Mercedes Arena section on the nürburgring and the chicanes on Zolder

[@alexandermitchell9070]

For me it’s either Turn 5 at Road America or the Arena at Silverstone. Both are annoyingly hard to get right and I swear I alternate between understeering off and oversteer on exit every time I go through them. The Silverstone turn is somewhat decent in a GT car, though.

[@HarcM.]

The Mercedes-Arena is great. It allows for different lines during overtakes and great racing!

[@Maurice-mk5cl]

It definitely provides good racing! Whenever I’m chasing someone I’m always winning time. But whenever I’m in front I loose time. Because of the different lines I guess.

[@austriangroyper9308]

@@Maurice-mk5cl Well said, I feel the same

[@nightwingzero8905]

If one chikane I haven't figured out till today is the one at the end of the tunnel on Monaco.

[@marcusbattaglia5400]

Well, that second chicane in Zolder came to be after Gilles Villeneuve's, to prevent future fatalities. Makes sense.

[@alexshahabi5635]

Not gonna lie I really enjoy all the chicanes at zolder 😂

[@bane-980]

For me it’s turn 6 at Laguna Seca. The left handed before the corkscrew.

[@julesn.8601]

Red Bull RIng Turn 2... I either get on the power too early and miss the exit or I will do it too late and almost come to a stop.

[@arfdinglare]

I am shocked the mini-carousel at the end of the Nordschleife didn't make the list. It really puts the "hell" in "green hell"

[@vsm1456]

haha, this one gives me the most troubles on NS, I don't know why. it doesn't look difficult at all…

[@DjangoRaisuli]

The Village/Loop complex at Silverstone to me is also a prime example of slow, plodding and clunky.

[@StevePhoenix]

It's pretty frustrating, but I don't think it should be considered one of the worst out there.

[@DjangoRaisuli]

@@StevePhoenix Not in general, but personally I hate it with a passion.

[@joeogle7729]

I like it but when you consider, the abbey chicane, bridge and priory used to exist it doesn't hold up.

[@ukbhds4493]

The reason for the first chicane at zolder is to slow the cars down so that they don't go over the hill and flip upside down at 150+mph. But every other chicane in every other track needs to dissappear

[@tomanderson6335]

Pretty much the whole third sector of the current Fuji Speedway would qualify, especially with the optional chicane/hairpin monstrosity that pretty much every series insists on running.

[@nebsampson8991]

Absolutely agree with Mercedes Arena at Nurburgring, but my brain is also unable to process Surtees at Brands Hatch

[@G00DBYEP0RKPIE]

You missed Macau on Raceroom. That 180 degree turn would be up there

[@djordjeblaga7815]

Before I'm going to watch this video I want to say that I personally absoultely hate T1 at Laguna Seca. There are a lot of bad corners around the world but this one is the worst.

[@dwilhelm_21]

Yes lol it feels slower every time

[@ryanlarson6835]

Bruh you really putting down one of my favorite corners in Motorsport lmao

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

Chicanes are fun. What's missing is the elevation change from the chicanes. In my area of Canada, the chicanes we have, they have huge elevation change and so, the suspension compresses at apex of the part A of the corner, and then the apex of the part B is at the crest, so the car almost goes airborne. A great example of this is the chicanes at the fictional RaceRoom Circuit from the RaceRoom game. They're almost full-throttle in some cars, and slow the truly fast, truly dangerous cars only. WTCR cars are full-throttle. A crash in a TCR car is almost always survivable at racing speeds. LMP1 cars are not full-throttle there. You will need to brake. If the purpose of the chicane is to slow speeds down so that the crashes aren't fatal 350 km/h crashes, then the chicane must be built accordingly. Make the chicane slow down the high horsepower rockets, without making every corner be 40 km/h. Then, follow it up with a hairpin, so that passes can still happen... Repeat. You've got yourself a race track.

[@jondudley9107]

I find most often people make the corners bad rather than the corners being bad themselves...would everyone dread T1 at Monza if they were going through it on their own?

[@danthomas7909]

Willow Sprigs Raceway, the whole track!

[@csonkaperdido]

Whaaaaat? I love the long, flowing nature of that track! It takes real attention to car setup and careful throttle control to take those long, sweeping turns correctly... And the weird, slow speed chicane type thing that goes steeply uphill and then sweeps down to the left on exit is REALLY hard to get right! I love that track! I absolutely HATE Ascari, however. It's just needlessly making one low speed turn after another. It's like a dollar store version of the nurburgring that's a tenth of the size, and nowhere near as fun. Some people would call it "technical"... I would call it "needlessly dreadful and soul-less" and would call those people who like Ascari "Volkswagen Beetle lovers" No track that's over 3 miles long, yet has a top speed of under 150mph is of any use to anyone. Ever.

[@1mariomaniac]

@@csonkaperdido I hate Ascari and I also absolutely despise Willow Springs

[@damoncarter1704]

No way Chris as soon as you got onto catalunya my first thought was Rossi and Lorenzo showing us the way real racers race I love this! And when you get triples I'd love to try triples before I buy

[@vsm1456]

out of all of them only the Paul Ricard last turn creates the "oh no, it's you again" reaction for me. and Zolder is totally fine, although tricky

[@RamTransport]

Spain's final chicane Is so bad that it's not even on the track map at the chicane

[@azarisLP]

Hairpin at Hockenheim GP (prepare to get rear-ended in the braking zone and then spin out while trying to accelerate out of it) Bus stop at Spa (so out of place for the rest of the circuit) T1 at Oschersleben (complete mess with any number of cars trying to go through at once) Chicane at Estoril (the elevation change will dash your hopes of making a quick getaway) Hairpin at Macau (hope you got your handbrake mapped)

[@SeanCampbell_iRacing]

Wait. I guess this is a hot take, but I actually like the Mercedes arena, it provides some really good cutback action and the second left hander provides a great spot to outbrake someone, the first left is a great place to try and run it around the outside, and it’s super satisfying to get the outside of both left handlers, knowing you will have the position once you make it to the exit of the arena

[@dorsetaddick]

Great video Chris. Appreciate the sacrifice! For what it's worth, Acque Minerali at Imola resembles a scrap yard in the original AC public servers (and no doubt ACC too now!) The corkscrew is a pain in sim racing and the corners before and after it result in a four-corner sequence just waiting to destroy your lap times. And your tyres.

[@Atticvs32]

This is actually a very well-put-together list!! These are indeed the worst things to drive - especially considering what they replaced (high-speed Curva Grande, Barcelona penultimate turn, original left-hander in Zolder). And yes, the new Busstop would have been the icing on the cake...

[@Mark_R_]

"taints the previous corner with its creeping malicious odour" - epic line dude, pmsl :)

[@dimsas26]

Funnily enough, I love all of these corners lmao (except Monza T1 or Paul Ricard final corner, maybe)

[@tonybucca5667]

I'd have to say the FIRST hairpin at Nurburgring. The "revised" chicane at Monza bit me hard when I first tried it, after YEARS of no chicane with Superbike, and Superbike 2001.

[@mikkolikoli4004]

Monza turn 1 because I can't seem to get the line/braking point right or spa last chicane because it feels really clunky and I always spin

[@Akutogo]

The last chicane at Barcelona was put in after a series of scary car accidents, and added to motorcycle racing after a rider was killed during the MotoGP weekend. Not popular, but needed in the name of safety.

[@Allaloneatron]

Where the hell did did a muscled Kestrel playing Time Crisis come from? 😂😂😂😂🤔🤔

[@felixeur1276]

But I like the Nurburgring Merc Arena complex, which is an odd one to be on the list 🤔

[@TheSnoringGamer]

I don't mind the Zolder chicanes honestly. I do find the middle one tricky to brake for and too easy to cut, but the other two are fine.

[@davids2361]

I'm definitely not a fan of turn 4 at Interlagos. By the way, keep the great videos coming, thanks!!

[@ChrisHaye]

Ah, I love T4 - super short braking zone and then just throw it in and hope for the best :D

[@nero1345]

definition of Chicane is literally: a small measurement to annoy someone i think it does that quite well

[@wakeupFFS2012]

Paul Ricard is like driving a circuit backwards. Zolder is bad on paper, but it's a decent 'rhythm' track. Spa should be on the list, too; a series of un-inspired 90° turns that conclude with....a chicane.

[@matteovenuti]

Also the 2nd part of Sentul (an Indonesian racetrack) should be in this list. Two almost identical chicanes, followed by a strange last corner (with two apex? I don't understand that corner lol)

[@3DWorldMan]

the monaco hairpin is impossible to do without touching the wall

[@austriangroyper9308]

I just drive over the inside curb in F1 2020 and it doesnt really seem to hurt your time.

[@csonkaperdido]

All of the Monaco track sucks fat balls unless you're racing in the smallest, slowest cars possible. A touring car is too big for Monaco. A fucking VW Up! is too big for Monaco. I hate it. I hate it with all my heart.

[@3ormorecharactersmaybe5]

This list is spot on. All the tracks included is the very single reason why I have a very low rating overall in ACC, except for SA rating. (yes, because 80 % of multiplayer races in ACC uses all the tracks listed in this video, 20% is for Spa) (yes, I went off the limits EVERY SINGLE TIME on these corners)

[@Wigwahm]

For me, Sheene curve, Brands Hatch. It’s almost a blind right hander to me and I negotiate the corner too fast. If I’m in traffic, I’m fine. I miss the corner more than I should.

[@JonasRosenven]

I absolutely hate corners that have a decreasing radius. As in a turn that gets sharper and sharper the longer you drive into it. A track like Portimao for instance. Sometimes a track feels like you are driving around it the wrong way. I love Portimao by the way - it is not a track you will do well on when you start driving it. Its difficulty is almost infuriating but feels so satisfying when you get the corners right.

[@shadowwsk3507]

I really dont like last chicane in suzuka. There are a few reasons 1. The apex is small and hard to spot 2. There are other sister chicanes that is so similar that it confuses me when my brain is busy overtaking 3. The chicane is so tight such that contact while overtaking is unavoidable

[@isaks3243]

I personally really love the mercedes arena at nuerburgring GP. the corners are really challenging to get right and boy does them give you a huge rush when done perfectly. but 2 chicanes that really deserves a spot here are the chicanes on the mulsanne straight. they feel like nothing but a "we need to make the track safer" decision.

[@kiirisz]

i can think if a memorable moment on the RACC chicane at Catalunya jack miller going on the wrong chicane about a million times in 2017

[@IN5T1NK3D]

"They're probably about as representative as any other poll you've seen this week." As an American, I can confirm that this is true. Damn you, Nevada.

[@diroxyt7641]

for me one of the worst corners is in the short version of nürburgring where you exit the mercedes arena and cut over to straight after schumacher-s. its blind its off camber and there is a massiv bump on the entry. i realy hate this one the most.

[@HepauDK]

For me it is basically the entire Circuit de Monaco, but the Grand Hotel Hairpin in particular takes the cake, followed by (in no particular order) Portier, Nouvelle chicane and La Rascasse. That track is just painstakingly slow most of the way around. Who the heck thought that a track where qualifying, pit strategy and whoever DNF determines the finishing order, was a good idea for an F1 race??? Watching the grass in my lawn grow is more fun than watching a race at Monaco! Remember the 1996 F1 Grand Prix? Everyone who crossed the checkered flag got a step on the podium...

[@SynapticNeur0n]

The image of the bird playing time crisis is where I absolutely lost it

[@BeetjeVreemd]

I see some pretty bad stuttering at some points in the video. Does youtube cause this? For example with the flying F1 mclaren and ferrari car scene @1:36 with the camera from above looking straight down.

[@juni_2452]

i want to meet the person who dicided that chicane in monza was a good and give him or her a "very friendly hug" for just, how beautiful that corner is. A massive braking zone and a corner that just destroys the rhythm of the track is exactly what everone asked for

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

I find the worst part of Catalunya to be turn 11, which isn't that challenging in itself, but has a weird camber change that catches me out for a spin so often.

[@l1nussimracing981]

I like the mercedes arena very much, because you have to really work the car around there, in order to get laptime

[@DankBoyy00]

I only agree with this on the first lap (besides of Paul Ricard) cause when you're later in the race, 1v1 all of these I find produce exciting racing

[@BobTC22]

All of these fit in my "Challenging but rewarding" category, bar the final turn at the Mercedes Arena, there is no nice line through there.

[@TheElDoctoro24]

Paul Ricard is the most joyless track in the world, makes Herman Tilke look like a genius of circuit architecture

[@markboersma8694]

I don't agree with zolder alltogether, the 1st chicane is all about clipping 2 apexes perfectly and it it very, very punishing (nice jokes though 😉) the 2nd you can really attack with a nice sliding exit. The 3rd has another challenging exit. So I like zolder, but the rest of the video was way too relatable 😅 although I never drove PR luckily

[@bensoniusprime]

Basically the whole of Misano. I hate trying to brake heavily while also turning

[@angryginger791]

The tight chicane on back stretch of Imola is near the top of my list. The rest of the track is so good that it really stands out and completely ruins the flow.

[@guidofoc7057]

Come on, the Monza rettifilo chicane is pretty good once you figure it out, it's frantic and challenging to get it right. I tend to agree about Barcelona though. I like the Mercedes arena, it's tricky. Paul Ricard I agree, it's all a blur of a track. Zolder chicanes I like them all, they make Zolder such a "physical" track.

[@beginswithaj]

Rettifilo is an awesome corner, we just hate the people driving it while we're on track ;P

[@beatsoflaw1477]

I'd love to have V3s and two very expesive wheels in my shelf, you've done it man

[@RWoody1995]

What do people think about the dipper at bathurst? I like the track as a whole and the dipper does bring a different challenge but no matter how many times I drive it I feel like i'm guessing and that's not the feeling you want when it feels like you're in the middle of an Evel Knievel style jump :P

[@delta_13]

About de barcelona chicane, it was made for safety, sinve the wall was too close there for the speed, they tried to move the wall to keep the corner but they would have had to move the stands to, which they couldn't because it would get into a patch of land that isn't theirs, just a shame it had to go like this.

[@riotact9718]

the second Zolder chicane is pretty fun provided the first one isnt there. you come over that hill at about 8,000kph, then you have to get it all gathered up to brake. Ludicrous.

[@hjkgkuh]

I'd have to add Sochi to this, every single corner on that thing is a track limit nightmare.

[@juancete0107]

The worst corner of them all is double droit de beausset. That’s the reason i never race at Paul Ricard. The good thing bout the ACC version is that you dont have the chicane in the middle of the straight.

[@ChrisHaye]

Yeah, Beausset is my bête noire, but I went with popular consensus.

[@Atticvs32]

Are you kidding, Beausset is great! It's a very difficult, unique corner, banked a bit towards the end, quite high-speed on entry, flows well with Signes, etc. // The Mistral Chicane, well, THAT deserves a place here, yes!!

[@alpha007org]

I agree. Zolder with GT4 cars is not the worst but final two corners at Paul Ricard... OMG. 169 circuit configurations of Paul Ricard but not one of them can is without those two... I hate it. I hate it the most, more then Monza, Zolder,... or any corner/track mentioned in the video.

[@vsm1456]

@@Atticvs32 can't agree more! the whole circuit feels awkward to me, but this tricky double righthander is probably the only turn that consistently feels satisfying when done right. at least in the car that I used there (LMP1)

[@Atticvs32]

@@vsm1456 Ah, it's the same in everything else, I found - I've driven F1 and GTs there in sims - never LMP1s though - are they flat through Signes? Having to do just a dab of brakes in a GT is very satisfying with the trailbraking to follow through Beausset.

[@Chiaroscuro22]

Race organisers should allow Rettifilo to be straight-lined on the opening lap.

[@Villoresi]

And in addition to the bunching up, these repeated slow corners spread the field out in the grand scheme, because on acceleration out, the cars jump apart again. And this doesn't help the racing, especially when you have to repeatedly give up lap time, using up tires and possibly other parts of the car in the process, in order to attempt to avoid a collision. Watch an F1 race at Monza from before 1972, and see how close the field can stay together. And in those wingless cars, the old Curva Grande and Lesmos are no joke. Admittedly, they made Pont at Paul Ricard tighter in 2002, but it really is an unfortunate thing. Signe, Verrerie, and the whole Double Droite-to-Tour section aren't bad, certainly not in their unmolested forms. That last section, before Pont, is such a rarity anymore, a flowing set of corners all running into each other, requiring a driver to compromise. Yeah, Zolder just seems painful sometimes. If it was just the 1st one to prevent taeoffs over the crest, that would be one thing, but it's gotten ridiculous. I think they could have figured things out better for the 2nd one, and since they've moved back Turn 1 to add run-off, do they need the 3rd one even at this point? The Catalunya thing holds for a number of others. The Castrol S at the Nurburgring was so much nicer than the Arena, and the straighter approach made it better for overtaking. In addition to that chicane, they'd already messed around with La Caixa at Catalunya a few years earlier. The circuit wasn't anything ultra spectacular (not helped by being used for testing all the time), but it was at least tolerable and had a reasonable flow.

[@beginswithaj]

Silverstone's Luffield should be on this list. Though a formidable track as a whole, that corner gets me every time. I just land in the grass, between the marbles, backwards, losing a lightyear of time, or all of the above. Always slower, or sharper, or wider or faster than the last time you visit it.. Bloody annoying that xD

[@coyoterangersmedia5263]

Tbh I love all the chicanes in this video. Chicanes are so nice when done right and you could use them for some nice exits on your opponent or maybe even some nice entrance into an overtake mid chicane. I like chicanes :)

[@vycanismelodis]

wow even the map on the gravel by the chicane at catalunya shows the track map without the chicane. it exudes a smug, mocking aura. "this is what you could be doing, but instead you have to crawl through my narrow back passage" says the track, "enjoy it, fucker"

[@fernandoueno8668]

The final chicane at Barcelona is the worst for me, the kerbs are horrible to take and it's so slow. The only positive is that you can cool your front tyres a bit, but everything else is horrible

[@marcelf0252]

That final corner at Paul Ricard is one I have never got right in my life

[@marcelf0252]

@John Conquest thanks man!

[@Peter.A-A]

@Chris Haye , Are all clips or tracks from Iracing game, or Are they collected from different games. .

[@nightlust]

Hmm tho there's no Laguna Seca, that chicane is the BANE of my existence

[@nobilt]

the corners I find quite hard are corners from sector 3 in Sochi: weird braking after the long back straight, hard to accelerate well out of turn 15 and apex at turn 16 just sends your car very wide. Ofc whole circuit is bad, but this section is worst

[@aeiouxs]

LOVE this video Chris, love your humour and awesome writing skills - can't disagree with any of these TBH! Although I'm weird because I kinda enjoy Paul Ricard overall, it's not easy but perhaps it suits my driving style. Actually, I'd add Imola Variante Alta (Turn 14) - it has far more charm than many other chicanes you mentioned, but it's still an utter **** when you clout the kerbs the wrong way in the wrong sim :D Cheers Chris!

[@DjFIL007]

I hope AMS2's Nurburgring eventually includes the old GP layout before the arena. They said more is to come for this location.

[@jordangrant-smith1248]

Sorry you had to go through driving these corners :P Great vid!

[@lexuslfa4739]

Hey Chris I wrote to you earlier on using virtual controllers as wheels using phone gyro as the wheel, it’s good for starters or those on a tight budget, don’t know if you saw?

[@Otawakun]

I used that when I was in college. Had a lot of fun playing assetto corsa and dirt rally. It's a good way to start without any cost.

[@Legend13CNS]

Great stuff! How about a follow up of good corners on bad tracks or something like that?