Are These The WORST Takes In Fighting Games?

[@lordknightfgc]

Scrubquotes confessions are back! Thanks to everyone who called in, I'll let y'all know again on twitter and community posts once again when I want to run another one. Do you agree with any of these? Do you have your own? Let me know :o (also, pls subscribe)

[@HellecticMojo]

My scrub quote: homogenization of fighting game characters in recent decades is a good trend.

[@KidArkx]

Going by the 5th confession, I have a driend who plays ino and is new to fgs. Whenever he gets a wall slump he taunts and people get mad, he doesnt get it. When i asked why he taunts he just said, " Why do they give meter to you when you taunt if you arent supposed to do it?"

[@biggiewiggie5557]

Taunts give meter???

[@Galanos009]

Champion mentality right there

[@hilleltaco]

Doesn't taunting give your opponent meter?

[@as95ms98]

My man is playing 5D chess 🤣

[@RainClloud94]

based

[@as95ms98]

Hotashi is the only player to consistently have the absolute best and scrubbiest takes at the same time.

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

Yeah he’s kinda weird like that lol…

[@ClownCity777]

10 years of guilty gear must've glued all of his braincells together. We are simply too stupid to understand greatness.

[@Hyziant]

Playing against bad players can be tough because it forces you to recall and execute the basic foundations of good play. To make a fencing analogy, all the fancy footwork, feinting, and space control doesn’t really matter if the opponent just lunges at you blindly. However, there’s a reason why all those advanced techniques exist- blindly lunging has a MASSIVE drawback, which is that it literally leaves you wide open for a the easiest hit ever. Thus, all the advanced techniques have been developed around fighting an opponent that doesn’t do the obviously bad thing. In fighting games, footsies only exists because players shouldn’t just walk at you. Oki setups only exist because players shouldn’t mash or DP on wake-up all the time. Reset mixups only exist because players shouldn’t mash when getting hit. These are all based on an opponent not doing the obviously bad thing. So, when a player does the obviously bad thing, you kinda need to drop the fancy high level play and just beat them into submission with the basics. For example: - Can’t play footsies against bad players because they just walk at you, neutral skip, or jump at you. You need to recall that you can then just stick out buttons/anti airs for space control without fear of whiff punishing and easily beat them in the neutral. - Can’t do your sick oki setup because they just DP on wake-up every time. Well, you just need to force them to block by blocking their DP and kicking the shit out of them. No need to overcomplicate stuff- just block and punish. - Opponent keeps spamming neutral skipping unsafe moves. Just keep it simple- people don’t use those moves usually because they’re super unsafe. Just block and punish. It can be hard to just drop all the fancy stuff you’ve been working towards, but to beat bad players you need to stick to the basic fundamentals. There’s a reason why they exist.

[@thechugg4372]

Seriously bro was spitting facts on this one

[@saikou_no_koi]

Goes hard ngl

[@lobokai]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[@GriFFonRec4]

Idk man. When I play people weaker than me they LITERALLY cannot surprise me .... ever. Sounds to me like you just don't know the MU as much as you think you do. I'm not saying I don't get hit, but that anything they do is predictable because every other player uses the tool in an unimaginative way. If the move is strong, maybe it's hard to punish and such, in which case you need to lab that out. But that's on YOU, not the random. Again, I'm not saying that I'm a god and I have no MUs that I have a hard time with or moves that I cannot deal with. But that isn't because "the player is bad." It's because the move is "cheap" or I haven't found the answer to it (obviously the latter unless I'm salty). That said, all that is when the opponent is at least EQUAL to my skill level. If they are bad, I just body them, simple as.

[@RabbitTheater87]

This is a really big thing in tekken that is said a lot but not understood. Everyone talks about high level but sometimes you have to look at the screen, see that you aren't doing that currently, and just play conservative and hit them. All of the high-level stuff doesn't matter if the opponent isn't looking for it. Knee said it best dont play high level by yourself.

[@Krackatoa]

This has to be my favourite kind of video lmao. EDIT: I cannot believe you hit hotashi with the trombones... 💀

[@Malacai087]

Omg its the madman Krackatoa Guilty Gear

[@severinlindskog7670]

I love how I can never tell if hotashi is an internet weirdo contrarian or the funniest person alive. He's too good at what he does

[@eebbaa5560]

the fact that it's even a point of contention should say enough

[@KatlynAG]

Hotashi spitting the most fire stuff in existence then sneaking in kapel for no reason

[@Zedzilliot]

"No reason"

[@sas911]

@@averageviewer5218 I don't really get why she can't use it a lot in every match. I treat it like second air dash, it's part of her core kit that makes millia a character great in the air. To me it's like if you complained about potemkin "spamming hammer fall". Like yeah, it's just part of his kit? It has a lot of counter play? What's wrong with using hammer fall or kapel? Sure, we could nerf hammer fall and make potemkin move faster, and nerf kapel and make millia's ground game better, but I don't get why that makes the game better.

[@averageviewer5218]

@sas911 Very valid point tbh, agreed

[@testhekid]

i liked this until i saw the kapel part

[@shaolinotter]

keep in mind that there are very few youtubers who are good players, so discussion has gotten pretty perverted since mid level players control the narrative. LK not included

[@catinacafe7105]

Yeah but that's slowly going away as more top players become KZbinrs/streamers. No disrespect to the mid lvl players cause all opinions are valid but there is a difference between opinions and just facts lol

[@Puntersnatch]

​@catinacafe7105 the pro player glaze is so overdone.

[@catinacafe7105]

@@Puntersnatch I mean it's not that they're always right but it's easier to listen to them because at the very least they do actually know how to play the game. I don't cling to every word they say but between the person who makes money off beating ass in a game vs the person who arguably gets paid by people to mindlessly play said game I'm going to listen the person who's has more time and dedication to the game. It's why I watch Lk is he the best player to exist? But does he put in far more hours understanding a game than your favorite streamer? Fuck yeah lol

[@shaolinotter]

@@Puntersnatch thats fine but it's bizarre to have a pro tour and have the theatre of an esport then

[@HellecticMojo]

You also have to remember that high level players also aren't really necessarily good at analyzing the game. You can observe it a lot whenever they release a patch note analysis and go "that's a thing?" or "I dunno" over stuff that isn't their characters. Then there's plenty of mid players who can't perform, but know the game inside and out. I honestly prefer the knowledgeable mid level takes over the ignorant high skill takes tbh if we are going for the lesser of two evils

[@evilded2]

29:34 I think any high-level player who would jump at the chance to make balance changes is inherently not able to be trusted with that power.

[@HellecticMojo]

Starcraft 2 is currently suffering from this feeling. The balance of the game is being handled by group of top players and the obvious terran bias is tearing into the community perception right now. The fanbase has a vocal group asking casters to weigh in on the balance because as casters they benefit more from interesting to watch games over actually winning them currently.

[@ChickVanCluck]

​@@HellecticMojo "Obvious terran bias", +50% supply cost to their best unit

[@HellecticMojo]

@@ChickVanCluck Oh wow, Terran went from best race to best race. what an amazing nerf. Their best unit is still the best unit because pajama wearing spies don't count as light unit, have both better offense and defense than any of the other caster units in the game. Gosh gee willikers, it's as if the best unit in the game that deletes entire race's existence and skews the matchup in another should have the appropriate cost of something. "We have heard major concerns from multiple professional Terran players about the Ghost nerf, and there wasn't full alignment among Balance Council members regarding this change. However, we also believe that proceeding with this change was desired by the community" "Literally everyone's screaming at us to nerf this garbage unit, but we really didn't want to until they threatened to rip us apart"

[@shaftmastr7753]

High level players are high level because they understand the game deeply, better than 90% of players. If ANY players should have a say in the balance of the game, it should be them

[@Pzdoesstuff]

My favorite bb character Carl Jr. hitting me with the charbroiled mix

[@nemoisnobody]

I'm calling him that, now. And I'm calling his "sister" Hardee.

[@roarkviolet1912]

Hotashis speaking truth. If you're playing fighting games, a genre where two players go in and one comes out a loser, complain nonstop and are just clearly not having fun no matter whats happening then maybe fighting games just arent for you. You have to find enjoyment in the game beyond winning or losing.

[@ammi5311]

You can't.... How entertaining market "gaming" got this big by sell prop, including those only here to find substance for arbitrary sense achievement.

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

I mean sure but what other fun is there to have in a 1v1

[@matheuszache7943]

Hotashi scrubquote resonated with me completely. Despite the bugs, I realized the patch was heading in that direction and liked it more so because of it. I am as much a viewer/fan of competitive strive as I am a player and after almost 3 years of clone, bandit revolver and other shenanigans, I just wanted a change, i.e. everything gone for good. I can't blame the "selfish desires" of pro players though. In the end you guys have the right to demand stability and not relearn everything from scratch every few months. So to which their own.

[@UnkieNic]

I'm actually 100% with the 5th comment. That's some BM, he wanted to stunt on him with a "I beat you with your own character and I don't even play them" shit. Then they chickened out when they couldn't pull it off. Again, a purist take is "all is fair on the character select screen" but personally? I'd be hearing the Kill Bill vengeance alarm

[@ShinDMitsuki]

Straight up, if you switch back, you are just a bitch at that point.

[@TerranceDavis-lu3yr]

It's called the vengeance alarm? The more you know 🌈✨⭐

[@30ajgo]

I don’t think it’s BM. To me it’s quite flattering. I’m like “You want to use who I use? That’s Cool n all, but I hope you know how to play em.” Either that or I just need to practice more.😅

[@Julian-um2om]

I think the worst offense from the player here is the implication that they aren’t taking the tournament seriously and goofing off. There’s a very distinct line between trash talk and disrespect in tournament and going random characters and prolonging sets by a large amount.

[@icekiller1594]

Hotashi's appearance on this is so fucking funny. High key I'd love if you two would collab on a video.

[@mrblooper1994]

Unfair moves featuring Hotashi would be hilarious

[@NeoBoneGirl]

"To me, Arakune and Carl are like, everything about Blazblue." True! That's why I play Gear instead.

[@KaptainKommissar]

gross

[@kevinbegin3049]

I dig Hotashi's take for the most part. I really like that they're trying to have characters play more to their identity. Ram having stronger sword mix but not being able to pick up her swords right away makes her so much more interesting to watch and play against. I also like the changes to Sin. More benefit from using stamina, but it comes back slower. No dp into rc is a great change. I like the direction of giving characters more defined and strong tools, but making the choice to use it more consequential. The one caveat however is Goldlewis. Him chaining typhoons is a cool change, but the rate he gets security gauge and everything else... I can't think of a less interesting character to watch win than him atm. It feels like once he gets in the opponent is relegated to tapping FD for their life while GL staggers typhoons for 20 seconds straight. I really hope they do more to give him the same tradeoffs to using his powerful tools as they did for other characters.

[@kevinbegin3049]

@ Concur. I think that and having his higher damage routes use gauge as well would be a solid change. Similar to Ram, it allow those moves to be balanced by adjusting sword pick up time for Ram and Security Gauge rate for GL.

[@BudewFan_]

@@ckorp666spitting

[@LoraLoibu]

@@ckorp666 ooh, that would be neat, vaccums into RPS

[@free_playstation_2]

the start to the fourth confession is killing me bro the chat Instantly turned from 1 to 5

[@arw000]

You know what, I thought that Hotashi was on something at first but actually I mostly agree. I like the INTENT of s4 even though I think it fails at what it attempted.

[@Christian_Crab]

Asuka was S++++ tier omega god on release but no one figured him out in time before they nerfed him (other than Gobou) and its been downhill ever since.

[@SpaceCowboy1627]

True, I honestly miss the old asuka

[@Christian_Crab]

@@SpaceCowboy1627 I miss him for sure but idk if release Asuka would be health for the game. Last patch Asuka was fine IMO though

[@MC-ns8gb]

​@@Christian_Crab he wouldn't but they should've been buffing his normals with each subsequent nerf to his extended pressure and offense

[@MC-ns8gb]

Like they could at least give him a f.s that actually hits far, that shit whiffs at roundstart😂

[@Christian_Crab]

@@MC-ns8gb Asuka with HC normals would actually be better than anything else ngl

THE INSTANT SWAP ON THE BLAZBLUE TAKE IS SO FUCKING FUNNY

[@wizardswine4621]

When the first caller said "I hate RPS" I was about to say Brother, that IS fighting games. Changing it to 50/50s was fair.

[@BHS289]

I think the Arakune/Carl enjoyer was like a 3; that’s not scrubby of them, maybe naive but not scrubby.

[@richardjohnson8991]

Bro the dude came on glazing BB had me dying laughing. Man self admittedly says man these characters fucking suck, but they're cool when I'm the monster lmfao Edit: ok so I got my strive friends into skullgirls just this week. Everyone is having so much fun rolling around in the filth and dirt and grime. Some games have to have the nasty to keep them appealing

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

I will forever love cheap anime bullshit, and you can't stop me.

[@RamixTheRed]

The thing is you gotta take the good with the bad, if you want a game with crazy out there shit where everything is different, then some of that crazy shit is going to be awful, thats the trade-off which makes Blazblue so great

[@capefeather]

McGoldenBlade was at least honest in a way that most people who prefer "dishonest" games just aren't

[@KingEccent]

Sometimes it’s not being bad, it’s knowing the mixup is coming but committing to the YOLO option any fucking way

[@ezrasilver9819]

Honestly LK being like "Respectfully I agree with literally every single thing you said *except* specifically for your take on Millia" to Hotashi is such a third-eye open response. Man never lost sight of the original vision.

[@Bustah]

I actually can’t believe someone would give the arakune good take

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

Hey, it's the BlazBlue glazer who was praising Carl and Arakune. I got the reaction I was expecting so I'm satisfied. I do wanna say I was low key memeing about Arakune, I don't think he's "cool" so much as I think he's fucking hilarious. Every time I get robbed by Arakune curse I laugh my ass off because of how stupid and over the top he is as a character. I know for a fact I have no room to complain as a Rachel player so I just embrace the cheap shit because I think it's fun. For some reason I don't get nearly as mad at BlazBlue as I do at other games because I come in expecting it, so as a result I have a lot more fun. I think anime players should be more self aware when it comes to these types of games. I once fought someone who was complaining about Rachel's high/low 50/50... He was playing Azrael. I stopped caring about character hate after that, and I was enjoying these games more as a consequence.

[@joshuatang5250]

Gigachad take honestly (as a carl player)

[@ryomathekillers7421]

I love it when heinous things happen

[@carrotfarmer1]

carl is probably my most hated fg character ever

[@SPZ-gv2on]

Tbh similar. I go into bb expecting shenanigans lmao. Still hate arakune and carl but I put up with a lot more BS in that game since everyone is wild.

[@richardjohnson8991]

based and godlike take homie. I'm here for the dirt. To quote dracula flow "if the pussy don't stank, I don't want it" I live for the nasty mixups and wild heinous FG shit

[@flippyflippersen]

So what Hotashi's saying is kapel should be a resource to be really strong and oppressive. I think I know just the pin for a resource based anti anti air that would fit Millia

[@OwainBigGuy]

hotashi had the most level headed take here then completely doubled down on the wrong aspects lmao. i do absolutely agree with him especially on the part where he said some of y'all need to get off social media and not let other people dictate your opinions.

[@barrymaslow8441]

You've hit upon a great idea here! Keep em coming; mad entertaining.

[@hlarjay7503]

I am just here to say, Hotashi was spitting, on every point.

[@OneHandDan]

It's definitely hard adjusting to fighting someone who's doing something random. You can't condition someone who has no awareness. Ascend and become a true scrubkiller.

[@shaolinotter]

that's why devs keep doubling down on cramming rock/paper/scissors situations into fighting games. It's impossible to skill your way out of that. and the devs dont have to make actual content because everyone gets a turn to beat diago and they figured that is enough

[@HomeDepotemkin]

Hotashi was spitting

[@littlefuniman6881]

12:34 In response to "Poker pro's say the same thing" in the chat: i have no idea where this notion came from or why it's parroted so much but poker pro's do NOT think playing bad players is harder. Most poker pro's base their entire career off playing specifically bad players it's how most money is made in poker. poker is a game about noticing your opponents habbit's and exploiting them far more than fighting games are and if a player is considered bad it means their habits are very obvious and exploitable whether or not they are predictable doesn't matter, It also means they are making a ton of mistakes so just simply playing close to "game theory optimal" will automatically drain their funds. Poker pro's may say some bad players increase "variance" but that's not an indicator of a game being harder to win it just mean's the chances of winning big and losing big are both very high but typically if anyone is increasing the variance in your game it will lean much more towards the "winning big" part if you just play stronger hands which is one of the easiest strategies you could do in poker.

[@lordknightfgc]

I didn't say that right, my friend is a pro and he said when he was learning it was the hardest part of learning. As he is now your comment tracks

[@Puntersnatch]

If you're good enough to counter their strats sure but your average donk who just all ins can clean you out quicker than a "good" player can bleed you through optimal strategy

[@littlefuniman6881]

@@lordknightfgc I didn't say you said it i was calling out the guy in chat. But similar to fighting games dealing with bad players is just a skill issue. Sometimes knowing what adaptations your supposed to make can be hard to figure out or determine the proper strategies off as a new or mid level player though, i'm still not great at that kind of stuff but i think any player at that level would do better against a tricky bad player than against a player higher than their mid skill level.

[@littlefuniman6881]

@@Puntersnatch just play tighter and call more lol? all they need too do is all in on you once when you have a good hand and you double up your money. Sure once again this increases variance so you will double up most of the time but lose alot some of the time but the amount of money you make is way more than normal when averaging the wins to loses. it's basically just flipping a coin but you win 60-80% of the time. And if you aren't good enough to know the Strat to beat the "average donk who all in's all the time" then i hate to say it but you are the ACTUAL average donk, because people who go all in all the time are pretty exceptional, usually drunk, or are bots or people having fun on play money games.

[@Puntersnatch]

@littlefuniman6881 the math. The assumption that you're winning "60-80 percent of the time" when youre having to bet your stack just to play. All this tells me you're just repeating what you've heard. Yes there's strats to counter what they're doing just like the noob fighter in the actual argument in the vid I was referring to. But it doesn't change the fact it's a coin flip as you said (not sure what coin you have though) any time you call and you're definitely gonna lose more money if you bet wrong against that donk than Doug Polk who can whittle you down but won't go for a kill shot in one hand. Same as in fighting games. When you're used to footsies and low risk play the guy yolo dping you ot whatever can catch you off guard and kill you before you know it. Just from lack of fear.

[@mikeas0216]

this was a really good video, love the idea, hope you do more similar!

[@antennaboy3383]

YO! I'M THE THIRD CONFESSION 🤣😂

[@thechugg4372]

100% truths were spit in that confession

[@Blazekid1906]

Absolutely, hard agree..

[@Ladon-tc8pm]

17:50 You know what that laugh sounds like? A villain.

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

I'll gladly play the villain lmao.

[@HitscanSedan]

Yessssiiiiiiiir What a chad saying what everyone else is too afraid to admit

[@sooryibeatusobad1]

Guy who likes Rachel: "I like toys and rubbing my belly" Chat: [Redacted] yourself

[@ariiatosan]

14:33 The reason why Tekken players think their better than they actual are is simply because of how many people treat Tekken as a hard game when in actuality tekken is easier to get into compared to most fighting games... but is also a lot harder to master then other fighting games lol. Like for example a mighty ruler Zafina could probably bit an inexperienced Bushin Kazuya, mainmanswe made a good video discussing why T8 was so frustrating and he mentioned this exact point to while also bringing up that while this happens in other fighting games it happens to an extreme in Tekken do to it's many many knowledge checks thus fueling the ego of that Zafina player thinking their a lot better than they actually are. On another note. For myself, when you get back into this game an start playing in tournaments know this, there is always someone better, even when your at the top so keep practicing to get better as the fun of any fighting game is improvement, not winning.

[@Greenfinite]

Pretty new to the FGC (Hell maybe not even part of it) but I really thought Tekken was super hard simply because of some of the special input moves and apparently gaslit myself. Now I haven't played much traditionnal fighting game, mostly DBFZ, GGST but before that it was only Smash 4 / Ultimate. So of course my first "exposure to Tekken" was when Kazuya joined the Smash Ultimate roster. The idea of an input that required to both do the 623 DP and timing of pressing on the 3 to do EWGF screwed with my brain and single-handedly caused me to believe that I should avoid Tekken like the plague cause "If the main character is like this then there's no way". Right now, I'm not interested to play it but it's weird how my brain has now been conditionned to be like "You play Tekken ? You must be cracked". Nevertheless, funny to see those comments / videos in contrast.

[@ThiefofCrystals]

@@Greenfinite If you get the chance, I strongly recommend giving T8 a try! Probably my favourite fighting game right now. It might take you time to adjust to the idea of a 3D fighter if you've not played before, but once it clicks, like you say, it's really not overwhelming like people say it is. The people parroting this are generally players who gaslight themselves into thinking they need to download a character's entire movelist to use them effectively - you don't, that's there to broaden your options but there are generally several correct answers to a given situation so even basic stuff will carry you fairly far if used well. Jump in, start swinging, feel out what you enjoy, what seems to work, and refine things at your own pace via labbing and matches. Hope you have fun if you do give it a shot!

[@joelschwartz2955]

Im here for the Elphelt hate. Objectively, she needed the buffs, but i die a little inside whenever i see her name on the changelogs.

[@MC-ns8gb]

She needs a rework, her design is awful and she'll never be winning a tournament cuz you can just pick Leo and completely destroy her offense

[@fortisch]

2:53 this. Exactly this. Im not pissed at a 5050 situation, when its a situation you gotta work towards. Skill here can revolve around avoiding the situation.

[@autumnwitchmaple]

Your response to the third confession is the first time I ever heard that. You just evolved my understanding of these games bro. Not that I've said this in a while, emotionally its a problem I got over a long time ago, but I actually never figured out how to fix the problem with my gameplay. Enlightening stuff. And so elegantly put. Thanks LK

[@tylerblake5507]

I don't completely disagree with Hotashi on Milia. I feel like Kapel was a band-aid for Milia's bad design in strive. Yes, she needs it, but if there was another way for the character to be played and be a good character, I don't think anyone would complain.

[@GramdalfFGC]

Playing against bad players feels harder sometimes because when you lose it feels worse. You should be beating them but you aren’t and that’s on you, it’s much easier to externalise that to them than yourself. I’ve also found a different sort of player, they aren’t bad just “weird”, I was playing a guy yesterday in street fighter and I couldn’t get a read on him, he wasn’t being random, he wasn’t even making dumb decisions, it just felt like I was singing one tune and he wasn’t even making singing a different one. Usually you get into a lovely bit of back and forth where you’re making reads, they are, active defence, pressure etc, like a dance But with this guy and players like him it was just “off”

[@gtrgrgth]

I have the opposite problem. Because there are so many bad players/scrubs I've adapted my playstyle to crush them but when I go up against an actual good player it takes time for me to reset

[@Iwatoda_Dorm]

The better player can do both :^) But seriously there is a lot of truth to it simply because you need to adapt to drastically different levels of play. It's calling them "bad" players that irks me a bit because it's more of a misnomer. They ain't bad if you get beat up and can't adapt to it in a, say- a tournament setting. if it's a one set and dip, absolutely scrub-tier. But good players play unpredictably as well, the difference is just that there's a method to the madness.

[@luigiwiiUU]

@@Iwatoda_Dorm the more appropriate term is Low level

[@myuutosan]

absolutely amazing series, please keep this up

[@h2_]

ok hotashi got me back on his side with that stray noah shot

[@StarFounde7]

this is so fun to watch please keep doing it

[@Roflfox]

"Can we vote 6 on this one" is actually diabolical levels of hating 💀💀

[@ornj1]

For that guy who said bad players are harder to fight, I think a better way to word it is that they’re more frustrating to fight (at least in my opinion as a player who’s ok at best). I think there’s a lot of pride in learning and mastering a game/character and understanding all your options, and there’s so much satisfaction in successfully executing a difficult setup or mixing somebody several times in a row, so when you fight a player that doesn’t even understand when they’re being mixed but they’ll still get hit by every meaty and fall for every bait, it’s really unsatisfying because it forces you to play in such a simple, basic, and straightforward way. You kinda just have to swallow your pride and play simple instead of showing off all your hard-earned skill

[@rasifurefodi8306]

We’re so back

[@remuvs]

The first confession about low effort 50/50s was spitting facts.

[@TerranceDavis-lu3yr]

This is a great series. keep it up 👍

[@jameji_phd]

As a Johnny player, I thrive on the knowledge that others are as appalled by my war crimes as I am thrilled by them.

[@nekuchan900]

Man the arakune dude was hilarious

[@zeywop]

Please sell merch of "You lose to throws and mids.." big fan

[@hmmokiguess]

LK hitting the absolute cinema at Hotashi

[@OmeletteGirl]

gotta love looking at the timeline while watching this video and just seeing "he arrives" coming up in the future. edit: OH SHIT ITS HOTASHI EVERYONE RUN

[@MysticColorsAttack]

Where do I submit for this, I need to shit talk low tier players

[@Jardonius]

Jamie here, talk yo shit I'm listening~ (plot twist: I think Jamie is actually kinda strong people just hate learning him)

[@free_playstation_2]

40:45 bro hit the QTE

[@Hamm3r_FL]

Class eats ice cream w a fork every take he has is hot

[@NyukiFrost]

Sorry bros, I agree with the 4th guy. It ain't a true arcsys game without the arcsys BS

[@SuperBradical]

Hotashi fuckin COOKED I'm just gonna say it.

[@Fgtr4Life]

I can see where the 4th is coming from. Blazblue ain't blazblue without a little bit of scum. Sure, a lot of it is in the bag of bees, but that person is spitting.

[@hakumenx1]

Bad players being hard to fight is normal. They dont follow the arbitrary rules youve set in your mind, you ALL do it btw, its normal. The "problem" is that the "bad player" will do things that show some nasty gaps in your pressure. A lot of players' pressure sequences are based on the assumption they are respected and then they get close slashed through the gap out of nowhere. You either accept it for what it is or you let it make you indignant over the fact your world view is brough back down into the mud. So i agree, they are hard to fight sometimes or really they expose whats wrong with your ego.

[@DuppyBoii187]

This is such an ignorant take. Bad players are hard to fight because they will do anything to skip neutral and enforce massive variance huge risk huge reward plays. Even if you beat this dumb shit 80% of the time it's mad annoying to fight.

[@obsidianflight8065]

my friend actually told me he has this issue with me (without calling me bad, teehee) and this is why I'm only floor 10 :D

[@hakumenx1]

​@DuppyBoii187 you called my take ignorant while pretty much agreeing with it. Congrats.

[@kosmast3r]

First time watching this and I think love this kinda content.

[@mario101395]

hotashi is actually spitting so hard, generally speaking any character having an overcentralizing move/mechanic is frustrating and not very fun to play against, so yeah even if millia isn't broken, kapel was so central to her succeeding that it just isn't fun to fight against, the most fun fighting game MUs are when both character have many options in many situations to represent that keep the MU dynamic and interesting, there is nothing dynamic about fighting millia pre kapel nerf basically, they just gotta find better and more interesting ways to buff her

[@MJCKCA]

sixth confession: I hate how people will main the most complicated character and then tell you you can't complain about their mix because you "didn't lab hard enough". Like, I know I didn't lab HC hard enough, he's very hard to play, that's why I play more basic stuff like Ram/Baiken. Please give me better feedback than just "lab better bro" when I'm asking for help on the MU

[@JameboHayabusa]

That shit drove me crazy in Xrd. Like yeah I played it enough to learn multiple characters, but god dammit I don't want to learn Johnny's six layer burrito mixup, on top of learning all of my mains gordita crunch wrap mixup too. I dont have time for that, and to actually play the game too

[@MC-ns8gb]

Then just don't play the mu lol, a lot of counterplay is just contextual and you aren't going to understand it until you get how that character flows, so get in the lab.

[@MJCKCA]

a complement to the third confession: On ggst I played Baiken, and after a H Kabari HKD I would IAD Tatami, but a lot of opponents would mash throw on wakeup and sometimes throw me out of my Oki due to (I guess) me mistiming my IAD Tatami. I would argue that bad players not necessarily are harder to play against, but rather they exploit weaknesses that you didn't know you had since you skipped multiple steps on your learning process

[@xcreenplay7264]

13:09 I kinda agree that sometimes I struggle against low-level players who just spam moves and go complete random on you😂

[@lagspike7763]

Hotashi arc at the end was peak

[@MorbyLol]

on the third one, yeah the answer is to just do the simple stuff that they just fall for and all, but for me that just makes me play worse in general, in rivals 2 for an example, if my opponent is just hiding under platforms charging needle then shielding and spotdodging when I get close, of course I'm gonna just phase through ledge and grab em or shine loop em, but then I go against someone who's playing competently and my muscle memory's got me doing dumb things from the last match and suddenly I'm getting 3 stocked till I relearn the actually good things I know. but then low and behold, when I have my good player muscle memory back kraggrockthrowman73 logs on and decides that fullhop Nair and rock throw is all he needs to play

[@hyperventalated]

I think having a simple game plan to reset to for each new opponent would help a lot. A set of simple and safe options for neutral, defense, and offense that you ALWAYS start out with to gauge what the other person's habits are. Things that won't destroy them, but also won't get you destroyed if theyre ready for it, so that you can gather info to act on. That can become your new auto pilot so that you can focus your actual thinking on what youre going to do next.

[@nemoisnobody]

I've got one that gets ALL my local friends SPITTING angry: there is no such thing as a "toxic playstyle".

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

"I'm gonna have to be classist for a bit" classic Hotashi ahahahha

[@xcreenplay7264]

33:00 wasn't expecting hotashi 😂

[@MTLxSpider]

31:45 oh small editing mistake here?

[@DNiero]

My hot take is that tier lists don’t ONLY matter at the highest level of play, they gradually become relevant as you increase in skill

[@roarkviolet1912]

One thing that ive always taken to heart in fighting games is that rank or skill means nothing until you make your opponent prove that they wont crumble to basic no mix-up options. Once they've proven that then we can play the real game.

[@sobbles6242]

the switchup from chat when they heard the 4th guy LIKED arackne got me laughing so fucking hard.

[@sauceinmyface9302]

Welcome back, LK!

[@darkwater124]

Honestly I can relate. I don't necessarily lose to bad players, but if I'm playing a game where I expect the opponent to react in an optimal way and they just don't, it throws me off in a huge way. Best example for me is Smash where I'm fairly good at it as opposed to my mate who is pretty mid. I can't tell you how many times I'll do set ups for tech chasing because I'm so used to doing that at a high level but he constantly misses his techs and I'm just all of a sudden throwing attacks out into the air and hitting nothing

[@Za_Phantom]

I was the same way as antenna but the truth of the matter is either the mix is bad, or your going on to layer two without establishing layer one. You can mix someone who doesn't know the mix if it's good mix, what he's looking for is callouts and hard reads.

[@SmilePecoSmile]

GG is the kind of series in which even "standard" characters have oppressive tools. Everyone is a boss character to some degree. Not liking Sol or Ky doesn't mean you don't like Ryu, for example. I think this kind of opinion can only be held by someone who only has experience in games with turbo oppressive tools.

[@BIaziken2]

Hotashi was spitting. I've been a believer of this patch since day 1. I think it's great.

[@ivanayala2715]

´´I play Ky´´ that´s when bro got cooked

[@ThaMxUp]

the "it's harder to fight bad players quote" I'm ngl I have a mix that I run, where sometimes people don't even block the hit that actually sets up the mix and that shit throws me off so hard, like I hit my c.S to star the mix and then get a wall slump off the mix sequence, and be like "bruhhhhhh" but that's as bad as it gets

[@14megasxlr]

Homie, I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT KAPEL, I JUSY WANNA PLAY A GAME WHERE SHE CAN DO SOMETHING REWARDING. But no, it’s m the scrub for getting swatted out of my offense once, into either a 50/50 or death. Here’s a take: any game with a character type called “One-shot” should be considered nothing less than Kusoge.

[@SPZ-gv2on]

Spitting

[@peerlessvillain]

Honestly yeah just go play +r bro

[@weepingninja]

For the 5th confession, I could've seen it as "I'm going to mirror match this guy to learn how he plays his characters and then switch to my main to apply the knowledge." if it's someone who practices with several characters

[@delano131100]

This came at the BEST time! I am having one hell of a day and this was a goddamn highlight!!

[@T.Gundham]

Bro Twitch chat was just glazing you the whole time. Like at the "Mirror matches change your respect" take. They spammed 4s and 5s then all of a sudden, when you say you agree, it gets voted a 1. Mindless sheep 😂

[@StarChargerStudios]

"he arrives" LMAO

[@renbenen]

hitting a full conversion of a random hopkick is not bad player behavior.

[@gokenhayato]

It kinda is because it says that the only thing they went to training mode for is to learn combos. most bad players dont learn MUs.

[@renbenen]

@ Your flippant disregard for the successes of others tells me all I need to know about you. Had to be an accident right?

[@gokenhayato]

@@renbenen What did i say wrong here? 1. Getting a full combo off a launch is fine, the problem here is the RANDOM hopkick. The only reason why someone would do a random hopkick is a desperation play, which means high chance that they dont know the MU or dont know the correct punish in that scenario. Doing a random hopkick in most scenarios will get you killed and is something that only a BAD PLAYER or a novice would do and should NOT be congratulated all because it worked this time. It is a behavior that should be unlearned as you improve. 2. No it was no accident, most bad players don't want to learn matchups, most would rather blame the game or the other player before looking within. Also what is with the personal attack, are you ok?

[@renbenen]

@@gokenhayato I’ll put it to ya simple it’s not random, homie can’t block. It’s not random, he’s fishing for what he knows his opponent ain’t blocking. You refuse to give the other player any credit, instead trusting the dude who got blown up which is just so cray bro

[@renbenen]

@@gokenhayato irrespective of how you feel bro, it was called cope. Dont tell me I'm wrong, tell LK

[@FloydianHate]

"karl and arakune are cool and fun" isn't a scrub quote but it is a little headass. different thing.

[@shaggyplays5210]

I don't know enough about most fighting games to have hot takes in my opinion as I am still learning. I do wonder if who you main in a fighting game dictates how seriously people take you though. Like I main Elphelt and I feel like I do pretty good with her for the most part but then I get people telling me I have no skill because I play a braindead character. Sure Elphelt might be a glue eater's rushdown character but she is fun and feels so good to play as which is why I main her.

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

People will pick on everything for ego.

[@sas911]

Real shit that drives me nuts is like 90%+ of fighting game players aren't playing at a level where "being carried" or easy and shit matters. I play millia, and I can genuinely say that I get carried in so many games because people just don't know the match up. I see lots of times where I spam kapel (hah hotashi) and my opponents just haven't practiced the counterplay and I just get free wins. Play the characters that are fun, and don't believe these people acting like their character is some highbrow shit. I play zato and millia and I'm as much of a glue-eater as you are.

[@koboss]

@@sas911this is true except for sol badguy, sol badguy will always be carried

[@benisign]

Bro I play zoners and puppet chars so all I can say is you get used to it. Play you want it literally doesn't matter.

[@thechugg4372]

Just respond by saying they are playing a braindead game anyway...

[@ThePoodle]

Hot take nerf millia

[@samuraileo1]

I love reading comments like this and my phone asks if I want to translate to English

[@flamewizard9022]

​@@samuraileo1 I agree. Miles has been a problem in gg for a while

[@bassbusterx]

so true, we should absolutely nerf faust

[@ammi5311]

I have come to not like hotashi for a while now, but he's take here is very valid

[@SYLXM]

People who think "bad players" are hard to play against are people who have knowledge of strategies that good players use but essentially role play those strategies without actually understanding their uses. They're bad, but they know some basic concepts that they replicate poorly and believe they are good without the ability to actually utilize those concepts properly. A bad player will destroy them doing dumb shit but then a good player will box them out and they are under the impression that the good player was easier to fight when, in reality, the good player was in control the entire time. Beating bad players takes good fundamentals. It's not about conditioning or the player being oblivious to how "smart" you're playing. You just don't have any fundamental to beat scrubby shit. 🤷

[@malcolmelproductions]

18 frames is considered reactable, Johnny’s step dash is 15 frames, meaning that in neutral he has an unreactable dash throw

[@zantaeonigaming]

Some people just hate DPs. I have a friend to hates all dp characters for the most part and just hates baiken with a passion. I'm a baiken player btw. He plays (Aba, HC, Nago, Goldlewis, Johnny, etc.)

[@TheCosmicUprise]

I play ky and I hate Baiken too

[@Dragostorm21]

Hating dp's is a self report ngl. Hating baiken is a different story tho

[@SpaceCowboy1627]

I hate dp because I play testament and I wish I had one