Are they the same...??? MXR Dookie Drive vs FOD

[@liamburton8922]

So on a Green Day forum, some commented on the pedals saying "The FOD is the same circuit. I dont own the FOD but I have used both side by side. The only real difference is that the FOD has a switch for a Mid Scoop, Flat or Mid Boost. The DD only had Mid scoop and flat options via a button rather than the switch." And then Green Days tour manager and close friend of the band came in and replied " This is correct! Yes the FOD is exactly the same pedal, we just put a three position mid switch in place of the scoop button. There will be new dookie versions later this year. bill" So yes, there's some proper confirmation

[@aaronwetzel1981]

which forum if i may ask?

[@liamburton8922]

@@aaronwetzel1981 Green Day Community, it's in a thread about the the Dookie drive

[@anthonysclafani3963]

+Liam Burton link? Couldn't find it

[@shortymcsteve]

Any update on the new version. Is that still coming?

[@guspuero]

and he was right omg

[@LinusKnight]

for what it’s worth, they coulda lost the copyright to the “Dookie” or green day tie in, so copied the pedal, and used 3 letters (that can’t be copy written) that happen to be the last song on the dookie album “F.O.D.”

[@_Noahplayz]

“For what it’s worth” *it was worth all the while*

[@tvrealities]

This is bizarre. I was literally just searching to find out if they were the same pedals and I couldn't find any solid confirmations. Lo and behold, this video came up and realized it was just uploaded. A pretty awesome coincidence. On my decent computer speakers, they sound pretty damn similar to my ears. It's nice to know I can buy the FOD and not shell out a lot of cash for the Dookie album cover version. I think I also prefer the toggle switches over the button. Great demo and thanks for putting the debate to rest (for now).

[@TSFAHTPS]

Haha...wow...I’m glad we put the video up when we did!! They are definitely the same circuit...I think the EQ is ever so slightly different but that may just be different potentiometer tolerances etc...or possibly the 3-way toggle switch vs the 2-way toggle...not sure if that would have an effect on the overall EQ?!? But the Dookie sounded ever so slightly less harsh than the FOD...but like we said you only really hear that stuff if you have them both there!! Thank you very much @tvrealities

[@miseryparty3726]

Reviews a punk rock based pedal. Plays cliche blues.

[@jesusvazquez4149]

It's a problem I see with almost every pedal reviewer, they just do that and I just want to hear how a distortion/overdrive pedal sounds with some powechords.

[@miseryparty3726]

@@SuperSpecialWorld Imagine all the other pedals that probably sound sick with powerchords…but the reviewer just uses it for bluesy leads…turning you away from buying the pedal.

[@AndrewLewisHowe]

I got my FOD recently. It's a good pedal. The three-way toggle is useful and the tone control is unique in that it doesn't go to extremes like most - it's done in a way that lets you really hone in on the sweet spot instead of being ultra-sensitive like they are on many pedals. Internally there should be a couple of trim pots for fine-tuning the "crunch side" (blend fully counter clockwise) gain and volume. Mine seems to have come set very low-gain and I'm not digging that ultra-clean sound, or much of the blended tones either. However, online advice says that if you up the crunch gain via the internal trim pots, then the blending starts sounding more GreenDay-esque. I'm sure that's dependent upon the strength of the signal you're feeding it. Which brings up the main failing of these pedals - internal trim pots that need to be external if you want to use this pedal with different guitars. You'll constantly be wanting to adjust the 'crunch side'. Ugh. MXR, you listening? Or maybe this was your plan all along? Get us to buy and fight for a few years over a limited run. Then get the stragglers to buy the FOD until sales dropped, only to finally put out a version that has all controls external. C'mon MXR. You've been in the business too long to not realize these things. M1 Audio has been around for years showing you how to do it right. My final thoughts on this pedal: the right amp or right Marshall in a Box pedal with the right pickups will get so you close to GreenDay you needn't bother with this guy, although he does sound pretty damn good. My Greenday tone comes from a set of GFS "Dream 180's" going into and OCD or a Exotic BB-Preamp clone into pretty much any tube amp set on edge of breakup. Use the pedals for the Marshall squish and feel, dial in the amp to get the tube warmth. The GFS Dream 180 pickups are excellent and nail the classic Greenday tone (which is pretty much the same tone as Joan Jetts and The Donnas, etc, which is pretty much humbuckes into a Marshall - nothing complex). Hell, the guitarist in my band can nearly nail Greenday with his OCD and his Strat when playing through his Fender Deluxe.

[@y_a_n_d_z_]

Im sorry, i had one of the DD. How to play the trim pot, what happen if i try to turn that trim pots?.I search many video to see how trim pots works. But no video for expalin

[@CarloSkrew]

It is the same pedal just you are paying a bonus for the GreenDay one as with the FOD is named after the GD song

[@PendelSteven]

Well, the dookie drive circuit was just too good to not use in a regular pedal and thus, I think the M251 in the regular series was born. Named FOD, since it needs a name and well... Fans know it's named after a song, but it can stand for: Famous Over Drive.

[@Jaysteenn]

Super cool! I always heard they were similar but nobody could confirm it. They both sound great and very close!

[@somepunknumber]

Thanks for the comparison video guys. Definitely would be keen for more marshall in a box style pedal demos. Always looking for something to throw in front of my Princeton!

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you @somepunknumber ...we have done a bunch of Marshall in a Box videos before with the Zvex Box of Rock, a few LPD Pedals, JHS Charlie Brown and more...but we will definitely do more...I love MIAB pedals!!

[@fedayeentaqx9956]

is it safe to say there arent any tones in the dookie drive that you cant dial in with the FOD?

[@TSFAHTPS]

Pretty much…the differences are very minor!

[@PendelSteven]

.. I probably should add that the Super Lead probably is my favourite Marshall sound... :) I forgot to mention Wampler's latest pedal: the Gearbox which has a Pinnacle (5150)-circuit in it. With a noisegate. And a Tumnus overdrive (Klonny).

[@LeviBulger]

The Gearbox is killer. Just looks totally lame and has a dumb name 😂.

[@deanallen927]

I think the "unscooped" setting of the Dookie falls in-between then flat and boosted settings of the FOD. I also think the Dookie had more output. But they sound very similar. If one doesn't want to pay for the Dookie the FOD should do very nicely.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thanks Dean!!

[@deanallen927]

@@TSFAHTPS Thanks to you; nice job.

[@bluessumlin...7067]

Power chord heaven… love the pedals and great playing both!🙂

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you very much...that cleaner amp gives power chords so much attack and definition...really cool idea for a pedal

[@NoahGrace44]

What song are you guys play on the rivolta modata viii?

[@TSFAHTPS]

They weren’t really songs…they were just riffs that are kinda similar to some Green Day songs…or at least I don’t know any songs that use those exact riffs!

[@NoahGrace44]

@@TSFAHTPS thx

[@againjoe]

Thanks... Good video. Old 90's pop punk rocker here. Missed all three versions of the dookie drive. and was on the fence about getting the FOD... thanks a ton helpful video for sure.

[@shaunbaird1274]

G'day guys, I've got an OG DD and it's definitely one of my favourite pedals. I bought it when they first came out from a music shop in Geelong. I do play e few Green Day songs eg. 21 guns, Boulevard, Basket case, When September ends, that's why I got the pedal. Thanks for the comparison video, I was very interested to hear the difference. More MIAB videos would be great. Stay safe and rock on.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you Shaun...it’s a great pedal!! And more MIAB videos will come...we’ve already done a whole bunch you can find on our channel!!

[@PendelSteven]

About the amps they're based on: modded Marshall Super Lead's. Nothing wrong with that. Bogner and Friedman all make amps like that still. And a Peavey 5150 also is a modded Super Lead. And Soldano. Which brings us to pedals like the Wampler Pinnacle, LPD Eighty7, Seventy4, Bogner Ectasy Blue (Mini), Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret, Origin Effects Revival Drive Hot Rod Edition (Compact) and Friedman's Small Box for a 50-watt Super Lead-in-a-box. Certainly used in all rock styles: from bluesrock to black metal.

[@KRAZEEIZATION]

FOD means F@€K Off & Die! It’s a track on Dookie. I’m on the fence about the FOD, I own 20 MXR pedals, my favorite drives are the SB Distortion, GT and Distortion +, I’m hoping the FOD isn’t too heavy metal sounding. Plus I do not want to sound like Green Day.

[@alwaysevolving281]

The Dookie Drive sounds more open and tighter.

[@MattCorkum]

I'm watching this video again after a few months and I can't believe more people aren't saying this and agreeing with you. There is a volume difference sometimes, but mostly it's that the Dooke Drive feels more substantial - it is both open and more tight.

[@andrewwest7875]

I thought the GD one sounded less artificial

[@davel_ggw]

Really tough to pick one over the other... they are extremely similar for sure. At times one sounded more boxy and less amp like than the other, but it seemed to keep switching which one I thought sounded that way depending on the guitar and settings. The biggest difference does seem to be in their respective scooped modes though, where I do prefer the DD, because the FOD sounds too scooped. And I assume you could overcome the lack of the mid boost mode on the DD by just having a mid boost pedal in front of it, which I would always have at least one of in the chain anyway. So... I guess I would probably pick the DD personally.

[@tvrealities]

The mid-boost is actually permanently on the DD, as seen at 3:18. I think there's just no flat on the DD.

[@davel_ggw]

@@tvrealities At times I felt they sounded more similar with the FOD set to flat though, but then at other times the mid boost mode did sound closer.

[@TSFAHTPS]

I’m not sure how the mids switch on the Dookie works...it sometimes seemed to sound more like the mid pushed setting on the FOD...but other times it sounded just like the flat mids setting on the FOD...it seemed to kinda do both depending on where the gain and tone were set...

[@progresspedals]

2nd time watching all the way through and the issue is settled, but from a diy perspective, i was thinking it would be the difference between on/on and on/off/on switch.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

I knew Grit Laskin who worked for Larrivee in the 70's. Back then Dave Wren was working there and they started as apprentices Wren was beyond killer for the inlay and Grit soon surpassed Larivee making guitars. Grit left in within a couple of years & was booked for a whole year in advanced. Wren was offered a King's ransom to work for a high end furniture maker doing inlay.and Larivee ended up behind a desk. At the time I had a part time gig at MES a very small shop that only sold handmade high end. I was the electric guy. I had Valley Arts guitars and Boogie amps as I recall. For a 'day job' it was great. I did not meet Larivee until '87 in New Orleans at NAMM. Anyhow ...I had a WTF moment when I saw the Larivee solid body!!! Really unexpected.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Oh cool...it’s a great guitar! It was one of their “cheap” models but it plays and sounds amazing!! Thank you Paul!!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

@@TSFAHTPS Maybe a budget model but they do not know how get the fit and finish of guitar less than stellar so perhaps a change of Pu's and you have a serious piece of kit.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Alex really loves the sound of it...I think it’s a really great guitar all round!!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

@@TSFAHTPSIt has a nice simple timeless look with a bit of pop with the colour. Small touches like the cutaway and the tortoise shell pickguard are very Larivee with attention to detail.

[@PooNinja]

This f’n dookie again. Thanks for experimenting for us guys. We appreciate the effort 🤘🏽. Post view edit Just reaffirms the more is more formula of blending multiple amps and cabs to reach that transcendent tone of the gods. Both pedals are unique yet similar. I’d probably go for the vomitus horned pony if I were to be forced to choose. Have a great weekend fellas

[@TSFAHTPS]

Thank you Poo Ninja...yeah unicorn all the way 🦄 You too mate...have a great weekend and thank you so much for all your support...we really appreciate it!!

[@thedeadxtras9927]

They both sound very similar most of the time, there was the odd time it differed but not by much, more than likely the same circuit with parts variance. They both sound decent, I may get a FOD soon at a reasonable price, can’t afford a Dookie the way the prices have gone crazy high! Another pedal which people start taking the piss and sell at silly prices, only my opinion though. Thanks for the comparison gents.

[@PhilipMonsos]

Why is there like a weird doubling/out of phase sound throughout this video? Is it the Pedals? I've heard other demos and these aren't like this.

[@MetalliDay]

I think the Dookie drive has more a higher end then the fod one imo I could be wrong

[@TSFAHTPS]

Maybe…but the difference is pretty minor

[@paultozz928]

I like them both they sound great Now. First impressions I am listening on my phone .take that Into consideration. The dookie sounds more open and not as boxing or mid range foward But the pod has a dip switch and more control. I like to have both.i love the natural openess of the dookie. Sound bigger to me. BOTH are very close and super THE pod winds in price point. SANTA briNg me one please HAPPY HOLIDAYS TOZZ

[@seventwistsclockwise]

what does FOD stand for?

[@MJPGuitar]

It’s a Green Day song called “F*ck off and die”

[@sunset-life]

It's the last song on the dookie Album and stands for "f*ck off and die"

[@punkfrenzy8373]

F**k Off & Die, the name of the track to Green Day’s Dookie, the pedal is the same as the Dookie drive but the FOD is a cheaper version without the labeling so they named it from the song itself on the album

[@kristdelgado]

Ironically: F.O.D. is also the name of one the songs from the "Dookie" album!!!

[@robertmenzies3032]

Serious surprised at how similar these pedals are from two totally different manufacturers. Either one would be an epic pedal.

[@TSFAHTPS]

They are both made by MXR ...that was the weird bit...they didn’t really want to say of they are the same circuit or not...but I’m guessing they are...maybe with a slightly different eq

[@LeviBulger]

The only difference in tone is how one output impedance is affecting the other being that they aren't in a loop selector like they should be for a truer scientific comparison. Thankfully it doesn't make one sound different enough to discern them and give someone false info that they are different circuits.

[@Nickraculous]

Huh. Who would have though

[@jayjaded]

You know what's the best way to A.B. pedals? Change the settings as you play so we can't get a steady sound clip to compare. Bravo wasted time.

[@randysutton2120]

Ironically, these pedals sound better than anything Green Day has ever done... :) And yep, except for the mids switches, I think they're the same.

[@TSFAHTPS]

Haha...yeah...I pretty sure they both have the same circuit...there is a slight EQ difference...it may be just different parts or that three way EQ switch May have diverging to do with it...not sure!! I really like both pedals...great sounding overdrives