Are We Bad People?

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This week we talk about video game spending, taxes, bad guys, and much more!
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:33 Asmon's Hate Arc
00:04:04 Battle Passes in Games
00:08:14 First Money Spent in Games
00:13:00 Ad Read 1
00:14:19 New Twitch Meta
00:16:44 Playing New Games
00:20:03 Tectone Learns About Taxes
00:28:47 Fatphobia and H-flation
00:43:04 Hair Transplants and Special Episodes
00:47:18 Why White People Have it Hard on the Internet
00:51:15 Bad Guys with Bad Guy Qualities
01:02:22 Worst Flirt Experiences
01:07:12 Rumble Club!
01:09:31 Mr. Beast and Watch Parties
01:11:23 Getting Emi a Hate Thread
01:13:12 From Hate-Watcher to Fan
01:17:09 Mike Tyson Fight
01:21:37 Weekend Plans (Gaming)
01:28:48 Rotmaxxing
01:31:00 Reading Comments
01:32:32 Episode Wrap-Up

[@steakandeggspod]

All the freshest gamers are using the promo code "MAXPOOL" when they log into MARVEL Strike Force ➵ tinyurl.com/4ee37xb3

[@bigbadsauce92]

Mizkif got that 🔌🔌

[@djatlasmusik]

asmond "When i play a game, i finish it..." asmond viewers waiting for asmond to finish cyberpunk2077

[@Novocaine33]

Rich people are the only people that pay taxes. Only the top 20% earners are net taxpayers, specifically in America.

[@vikmonkebruh5057]

מחממים שמן בסיר על אש בינונית-גבוהה. מבשלים ומערבבים בצל, עלי קארי, פלפל סרנו ושום בשמן חם עד שהבצל מזהיב. מערבבים אבקת קארי, זרעי חילבה, כורכום ומלח; לבשל עוד 3 דקות. מערבבים פנימה שעועית ירוקה עד לציפוי אחיד. מנמיכים את האש לבינונית-נמוכה ומבשלים עד שהשעועית רכה-פריכה. יוצקים חלב קוקוס ומבשלים עוד 5 דקות לפחות. מסירים מהאש ומערבבים פנימה מיץ ליים ממש לפני ההגשה.

[@SraoshaReaction]

Asmong I from Iran and I want start streaming because of u man ❤ I like all of u , keep your great work ❤💕🌷

[@TheBroThatSurvived]

Tectone: Why isn't there just a flat percentage tax? Asmongold: (explains income-to-expense ratio in an easy to understand way) Tectone: Huh???? Tectone last episode: School is stupid because nobody needs to know any of that stuff in real life

[@TMBSClips]

i believe tectone plays dumb. he knows what gets clicks. his story about "pretending to be crazy" in order to play videogames on his gameboy growing up got so many views (comments were antagonistic as planned). its technically smart

[@Conkelduck]

Asmon could have done a better job emphasizing the key point imo. He kind of started rambling about sales tax. The key point is that (income) taxes are calculated as a percentage of income, not a percentage of income minus expenses (disposable income), so progressive taxes try to account for that. It's an approximate solution because we can't exactly calculate the value of someone's disposable income in a fair way.

[@AnimeRPGgame]

a flat tax has no loop holes.... that's why no country has it

[@Madchris8828]

​The thing is are they really loopholes if they are legal and if you have a lawyer who knows what they are doing can help you figure out what to do? A lot of the "loopholes" are written in the tax code.​@@AnimeRPGgame

[@itsspookie]

They don't teach you about the tax system in the US

[@grizzyg]

Tectone please return to your assigned seat. Thanks.

[@Tempos_TV]

Came to the comments to make sure someone pointed this out. Feels weird with the change!

[@emiach]

Yes his size and energy are perfect for the solo side. Get back over there.

[@johnotter561]

I fully agree with this!

[@Grizzlysnaps]

True and real

[@bendavis6530]

They did it so that we comment like this Aware

[@Yzergin]

Answer is yes, now let's watch the video

[@AlexAV25]

But thats why we love them (expect Asmon, Emi and Tectone)

[@JoyZofSoRRoW]

Valid answer.

[@jagfanbb]

😂

[@xxx0ox0]

Gotta have a guilty pleasure

[@Music-gw4qf]

T R U E

[@TheShindomaru]

Are we bad people? Yes, specifically because Tectone and Asmon changed seats without warning

[@damntravis6056]

Aamon probably has b.o.

[@bc6797]

Way better hair angle for Asmon. Good call on whoever decided to swap them. He may be a pro at taking insults/jokes and rolling with it, but still smart to limit the catalysts to the jokes.

[@MFFAME]

Nah I think it’s cause asmons dad will be coming eventually and he wants to sit next to him

[@Methos_]

wait the episode is ruined now

[@westmanpl]

Last week Emi and Asmon switched seats, so they all are just fucking with us.

[@beholdtheguy6117]

The seating arrangement has been broken

[@semi6544]

It broke last week.

[@joetheperformer]

@@semi6544 yeah, but Tectone is so loud and bald that it’s more noticeable now.

[@Spiritbgx]

Prey they dont brake it further

[@MrRyanfisher]

@@joetheperformer Under that long hair, all three of them are bald.

[@joetheperformer]

@@MrRyanfisher true!

[@crow_buddy]

Tectone did admit that he loves battle passes, so the jury is still out on if he's a bad person.

[@jehhhGames]

No it's not, its conclusive. He's dog shit as a person.

[@BotsheloSekgweleo]

Lol

[@briscogdp]

I'll never understand the hate for the Fortnite Battle Pass. I agree with the earlier version cuz it was something like if you didn't finish the BP before this date you lost your chance to earn something you already paid for. But didn't they change that after a while? Now you can still earn those rewards even if that BP expired

[@Sentro1122]

People need to remember what the paid content landscape was BEFORE battle passes, map packs splitting communities up, content updates behind huge paywalls, on top of paid cosmetics still etc. Battle passes may be annoying cause they are in every game ever now, but they are far better than the alternatives we had prior

[@kwoni3337]

​@@Sentro1122yea I think battle passes are probably the best form of in game mtx if they're implemented fairly. The problem as you said is they're in every game now, and often they're not justified or in tandem with other mtxs. Destiny is an example where it's not justified imo as all the expansions are paid, even old ones for new players. They have cosmetic and early access mtx weapons etc, AND it's a paid game. Something like cod is what I'd consider fair. Even though it's a paid game with other mtxs, all updates are free. The currency used for bp are transferable across all current and (presumably) future cod games, and you can earn the currency through the free battle pass sector so you can eventually self sustain every battle pass purchase just from playing the game. I think the fairness essentially comes down to how many times the game is dipping into monetization models. There's a few main monetisation pillars; upfront cost, expansion/dlc, ingame cosmetic, other mtxs like level skips/paytowin, battle passes and subscription models. I think if you have 2 of those 6 it's fine, 3 is where it starts getting greedy. Cod is toeing the line because it has 3, but because the battle pass is fair and entirely earnable for free it makes it less egregious. Destiny on the other hand has yearly paid expansions, plus previous expansions, plus battle pass, plus upfront purchase, plus cosmetics, plus other in game mtx. They're literally sextuple dipping compared to cods triple dip.

[@AFR0PR1NC3]

Tectone not understanding why poor people can’t just pay the same percentage as rich people in taxes is one of the most unrelatable things I’ve heard in a while. 😂

[@adamerebus9968]

Yeah. On a side note tho why do we pay taxes 3 times?

[@DaDa-rg6ts]

Technically he didn't understand why the government needs so much money overall from taxes

[@SgtShinobi0]

The part that was failed to be explained about the tax brackets is that you are not a flat % for the full bracket. You pay the higher % of taxes for whatever you make above the lower tier. Hypothetical numbers: Say that you make $60,000/yr Bracket 1 is $40,000 and below at 10% Bracket 2 is $40,000-$100,00 at 15%. You don't pay 15% for the full $60k. You pay 10% on the first $40k then 15% on the next $20k. This is just something that so many people still don't seem to grasp about tax brackets.

[@joshholmes1372]

Thank you

[@treeforged9097]

Asmon actual briefly mentioned that but he gave up on explaining that vary quick because it was way to much for Tectone to understand.

[@TMBSClips]

but have you considered the fact of asmon saying this to tectone would cause his brain to spontaneously combust?

[@maxw565]

But tax brackets essentially arent different from "the more you earn the higher total % you pay"

[@harmvzon]

It amazes me how few people understand the basics of a country

[@theoriginalmre]

Watching Tecy trying to comprehend tax was one of the most painful experiences I've had in the last few months. I had to skip thru the video until it was over. I'm still hurting from the sheer memory of it.

[@funderburke43]

Its like how gachas need whales to support their economies, we need the wealthy to support the bigger economy

[@Zaxomio]

How does this man not understand tax brackets. It's like the most basic fucking thing you need to know about how the government works.

[@mrkinetic]

That killed me. It's so simple to understand the way asmon explained it.

[@SirPickleworth]

He was being disingenuous because he's in a higher tax bracket than people that can't waste thousands on gachas. Happy to throw away money through a psychological money trap yet annoyed when he has to contribute to society.

[@JacobsCapital]

@@SirPickleworth Why should he pay more? Is it his fault that you are a bum? Tax brackets are disgusting and immoral

[@JimBoFet171]

Are we bad people? "I love battlepasses"

[@JMPERager]

I agree with him somewhat. I like battlepasses. You often get a lot of value if the skins and other shit in there speaks to you. But, I hate when you're forced to play 24/7 for the entire length of it to be able to complete it. A season should be 3 months, and you should be able to complete the battlepass/seasonpass in 1 month if you play 3 hours a day. Now spread it out to 3 months, suddenly you aren't forced to play it all the time.

[@sierr1302]

Tectone not getting taxes is now my Roman empires

[@ahkilleuskosmos6836]

Mine was him trying to explain King Crimson to schlatt

[@wifiluna7632]

tectone trying to understand taxes is so fucking funny he could not lock in

[@robert.r.g]

That part about taxes was just painfully funny. Seeing how much of a better understanding Asmon has on many-many topics is deserving of respect. Thank you for educating Tectone!

[@zedisdeadz]

Its actually an intervention for Asmond descuised as a podcast. You guys are good friends

[@sloppybunz7229]

Asmon has a surprisingly mature view on taxes. Lol

[@computerexperts903]

He worked for IRS before.

[@SlaughtingIdiots]

I dont think you can use the word mature on this topic. Its just reality, either you know reality and care or you hide from reality in what your oppinion is.

[@d.l.brinkmaniac3542]

Tectone is lucky he got into streaming lol

[@Ziramus]

the ad would have been better if Asmon came on with his hair in ponytails like emi's when he's like "Emiru here"

[@Despinarxx]

Tectone has never seen a good hair transplant because you dont see the good ones... because they're good

[@OU7C4ST]

It's 1PM and I've been watching these Steak & Egg podcasts since 7AM. I'm hooked. You guys have such great chemistry with each other, and help the time go by so quickly. Keep it up

[@OmegaNineProfile]

lol I love tectone but he is so simple. Watching him try to understand tax brackets was great. Then being like "Im not fat-phobic" right before "I lost so many friend because they were fat and I couldn't be around them." I am really glad he fell in to gotcha games because I would be worried about him having to be in the real world 😆

[@extr3mev0id19]

Asmon doesn't have to shave his head or get a hair transplant. If you want to look good, all you need to do is groom yourself. it's fine to be balding, what's not fine is to neglect your physical appearance. Your hair can look however, it doesn't matter, as long as you make sure to get it cut every so often to take care of split ends, comb it, etc.

[@_MistTV]

I'm fat and the fat phobic discussion had me rolling! I caused like 12 earthquakes in the process.

[@Ishaan_A]

Caseoh?

[@moz7677]

Asmon is just scared that when he shaves his head he will lose his Wizard Powers... and his immunity to Everything buff.

[@JMPERager]

Back in 2018 when I lost a lot of weight, like 45kg, so around 90 pounds like Tectone, I suddenly got attention from women my age outside. Like, I don't think it was just because I got more fit and more attractive because of it, I think it was because I shone of confidence and had a much better stature. I completely changed and was so happy. Due to covid I fell back into my old habbits and am back at my old weight, but I'm working up the power to do it again!

[@xxmementomori]

i forget about this podcast sometimes, and i get so excited whenever i see a new episode, because its so nice and chill just listening to you guys talk. I'll make sure to turn on the notifications from now on :D

[@ShammusWammus]

I look forward to these every Friday, and look forward to Fear& every Monday. They get me through the week.

[@CrimsonRayne]

Yeah if they don't talk about WoW for a freaking hour with it's PS1 graphics having ass

[@JamesKellyjjk]

Asmon should teach Tectone something like he's in school and then give him a test afterward to see if he retained anything. I'd watch that, Asmon seems like a good teacher.

[@mrkinetic]

He really is. His explanation on taxes was great.

[@KayshM]

I can't stop looking at the windows knowing they're fake.. Despairge

[@silverhawkroman]

They will go out one day...

[@drearmouse9510]

No! Why?! ..you just had to break the illusion.. first the TV now this?! TT_TT

[@bigbadsauce92]

they aren't fake? am i missing the joke?

[@drearmouse9510]

@@bigbadsauce92 Eh, I assume it's a set & the windows are CG like the TV. Or they actually are in a basement & im just conspiracy brained. Who knows~

[@JohnSmith-wd1oq]

​@@bigbadsauce92Windows are fake af watch the livestream episode.

[@Big-bob560]

Bald guys always say just shave it cuz they lost the fight already

[@DamesTC]

Emi being the only one frowning in the thumbnail and being a bad person for being short is so good lmao

[@ShammusWammus]

My favorite Uncle Ruckus line of all time : "I got my test results, can you hear my heart beating? It says I'm 102% African, with a 2% margin of error!"

[@cheeseblast]

I appreciate you guys maintaining the actual worst ad reads in the business. Love yall

[@backwoodsvenom]

empathy is understanding how someone feels, not that you blindly agree.

[@noone-ss8lu]

to be more specific, empathy means you can understand with out having a similar experience, like knowing how bad SA for someone else is and how awful it would feel, even if you have never been SA. its almost like sympathy, but sympathy is you do relate and understand how some one feels because you went threw a similar thing. like losing a parent or pet, its something we all go threw at some point.

[@aLinkToTheNow]

You guys absolutely saved my sanity. This past weekend I had a 16 hour road trip to make by myself, and listening to the Steak and Eggs Podcast on Spotify was a friggen god send. Thank you guys, and keep up the great work.

[@digitalhub492]

Tectone is hilarious. Goes from "Me best gamer ever" to "Oh i just like to play easy games"

[@OfficialProblematic]

Watching asmon explain taxes to tectone reminds me of the John Mulaney joke about Ice-T and the Law & Order SVU bit.

[@kurtslavain]

Dating apps are the fast food of dating. Cheap and low quality. Americans are doing social life wrong. Like their food. Part of the problem is their unwalkable town infrastructure and the fact that their teens can't just go out in town on foot and hang out outside with their friends like EU teens do. In the EU, there's much more mixed companies of fiends(men and women), hanging out in town, listening to music, drinking in the parks, doing karaoke, going to concerts, etc.

[@dropnight4549]

As usual, incredible episode. Keep up the awesome work!

[@krylesangerbeaver]

1:04:56 best part, Tectone clarifying had me dying of laughter

[@garrettroff1127]

Its Friday again, lovin this pod

[@Ezbee.Alexander]

Tectone's opening line made me think I was having a stroke

[@extr3mev0id19]

My first in-game purchase was extra song packs for Rock Band.

[@henroku5281]

Celestial Steed in Wow. I should have been more strong willed...💯😭🤣😂

[@kinokanos]

The podcast just gets better every episode! Yall have great podcast chemistry 😆

[@mikemilli3834]

Lets go! Another week, another great podcast episode to watch!

[@dylan4125]

8:05 battle passes where invented by DOTA2

[@frasics4741]

Bro the switch is tripping me

[@user-bb2kj1yq9r]

Welcome to the "Like" Podcast where your hosts say the word "Like" more times than you can possibly imagine, love it though cause like its like lit

[@Bruce_Wayne556]

thanks for another great episode keep it up guys. can't wait for the special

[@smackdapanda4116]

Love this podcast and they are gaslighting about the seat switches

[@lucystarr8022]

Im short, loud and messy, I feel attacked D: 😂

[@Chillantro]

1:31:57 “why do I need to know chemistry” so you know what to not touch and what to not even go near when you recognize them

[@jjbinks117]

I love that these are an hour and a half, keep me distracted from work😅

[@jonathanresendiz8212]

I can't take this anymore go back to the old seating order!!!! 🤣

[@JohnRBlade]

ayyyyy 50/100 episodes before I purchase a Starforge PC. Lets f*ckin go boys. I'd better start saving up here pretty soon.

[@Sbshooters]

Waking up to a new steak and eggs episode already makes my day.

[@eighter5720]

This is the only podcast I actually look forward to watching. Love em.

[@rorydfabre]

teaser at beginning was good and clever. keep doing it

[@eirgel38]

fellas is being short a sin

[@Moiz.7]

No, being short and not being a femboy is a sin

[@luistrigojr.3729]

Asmondgold trying to teach tax structure warms my heart. It also tells me that people should probably educate themselves on these topics...

[@CloudStacey]

Teccie about taxes: the more money you make, typically, the higher your impact on the economy and resources (aka someone with a more luxurious lifestyle, or even just higher luxury alternative choices, has a higher economical, ecological, and resource footprint), as well as what Asmond said

[@oddfernco]

Emi is of course the only one who is not out-of-touch here. This podcast has made me realize just how dumb Tectone is & how skewed Asmon’s world is

[@SlaughtingIdiots]

What made asmons world view skewed?

[@JacobsCapital]

Found the ELEPHANT in the room

[@asd1b1]

This episode by far has made me laugh so much. I enjoyed watching the entire episode from start to finish. One of the best moments was tectone not understanding taxes.

[@RakdosMC]

What is this AI sounding comment 😂

[@joshholmes1372]

​@RakdosMC for sure a chat gpt generated comment.

[@dzello]

For those wondering, what Asmongold was explaining to Tectone regarding taxes is this: If poor people make 50 000$ in total, they spend 40 000$ to live, so they have 10 000$ left. If rich people make 500 000$ in total, they spend 300 000$ to live, so they have 200 000$ left. If you tax poor people at 15%, it's 7 500$ out of 50 000$ in total (15%), but 7 500$ out of 10 000$ left (75%). If you tax rich people at 15%, it's 75 000$ out of 500 000$ in total (15%), but 75 000$ out of 200 000$ left (37.5%). Despite the tax for everyone being 15%, it hits poor people more severely (75%) and rich people less severely (37.5%).

[@bodotrenaud7441]

Nice explanation, there is probably a good KZbin video somewhere as well

[@dzello]

@@bodotrenaud7441 Probably, someone would just have to search "progressive rax system versus regressive tax system" and "ability to pay".

[@dnickxvi5055]

This podcast has grown to have some really solid conversations

[@itsquirkey1017]

Mizkif hair transplant

[@adam6674]

I thought the same.

[@TheCyanHawk.]

100%

[@Djidgy]

Yep I commented it then saw this I agree

[@oalkie]

Isnt rhat guy bangs lmao dont see a time wherein he coukd recoup a surgery and prepping ironforge

[@judaslink3588]

Idk if miz had a hair transplant he would have more hair. My guess is Knut. Body builders are usually bald

[@d3-embro]

Let's go baby!!! 50 episodes!!!

[@MrWolfgangJca]

Asmon: I thought about throwing things away. Also Asmon: It would be easier for me to just move somewhere else. It's so bad. Tectone: Ok. Let's do that! Asmon: Oh, I don't know about that. Immediately gets anxious on the idea.

[@jakesume]

1:16:50 handsdown best Asmon quote of all time 🤣🤣

[@jacoblunchbox9499]

this episode just reaffirms my dislike for tectone lmao dude has some of the worst takes ive ever heard. asmon and emi carry this thing on their back

[@Ueberseerum]

word. I can't stand him more and more. his take on knuts daughters education some weeks ago was the final straw for me.

[@Elmon11]

34:00 honestly you do start to like it after a while though.Especially cardio.

[@Skunkolicious]

I love that Chappell joke Asmon quoted

[@Pokepunk]

lies of P is better than any of the souls game honestly, don't know wtf tectone is talking about

[@rchrd3353]

The amount of times tectone said "that's badass" in this episode = 8+

[@samuelmeisterw]

very cool steak and eggs podcast, I very much enjoy this podcast

[@visitor55555]

Bloody hell, listening to Zack and Emi is like remembering things I've said to people for years.

[@chaxlocke5468]

AHHH YESSSS, just what I needed. Steak and Eggs once I wake up

[@marypoppins1373]

Really solid episode.

[@superhicham9]

I think the way they are sitting now is perfect

[@cocohonso]

LOL that intro 😂

[@izuumori]

"I don't understand why they ask me a question and I'm only allowed to answer a specific way" -> Maybe, but delivery of how you say it helps a lot too lol

[@thatperson9750]

I've learned Soo much from this episode.

[@fearfactory1189]

Finally...I got through another one. I dunno why but lately I haven't been able to get through these, trick is to be busy while listening lol

[@gpturismo]

I never understood how Tec got 1m in debt, then he said he just loves battlepasses and spending money on things he loves.... it all made sense.

[@nutzor9594]

Afaik most of the debt was him borrowing money for a house from Austin from Mizkif

[@jaydeus]

Whoa opposite day?! HAPPY 50TH! 🎉

[@bleachedbit]

First ingame purchase? First external was lineage 2 right before wow release to buy adena (currency) if we're not counting subscriptions, if we're counting subscriptions it was either wow or lineage 2

[@kylecarey4189]

BDO is older, but damn those graphics still look great. Back then it was amazing, grinding for ogre ring early morning for fewer contested spawns was a good time. I am also exploiting gbfr, been running macros for hundreds of hours. Get what you can before things get patched

[@grimz928]

First in game purchase was a map pack for halo 3 back in 07.. or Fable 2 dlc, good times. .

[@fearfactory1189]

Enjoyed it all though thoroughly it wasn't like I wasn't listening

[@TheDarkRival]

I don't know if it's the first, but Smite's battle passes are the best, aside from the initial purchase (which can actually just be got for free) the 600 gem pass will basically always give you 400 gems by completing the pass and on top of the daily sign in rewards over the course of the pass, you will come out being able to buy the next pass sometimes with extra gems.

[@OPSECmgmt]

pain in naruto most relatable bad guy ever

[@DreamskyDance]

Yay, episode is out earlier today. Right as i got back from work and i can watch the episode first then go play Dragons Dogma 2 for the first time ( yeah, read the reviews in the morning before work but still bought it and started installing it before going to work, hope it will be ok ). This has become my favorite podcast so i am sure it will be an awesome episode XD Edit: 51:46 - is Tectone thinking of "Life is Strange" ?

[@kitrodriguez992]

I do agree with Tectone though. I don't know if there are many WWE fans here, but CM Punk was such an amazing heel. What a guy.

[@PaulFurn89]

High quality episode 👏

[@kasperprime3479]

Techie hasn't seen Elons before and after hair transplant has he. 43:40

[@turbo558]

That first ad was pretty good lol

[@noblen6049]

I seriously didn't realize how big Tectone was until he sat in that chair

[@just_tree]

42:55 someone had to say it, this is why I like techtone now

[@KeaghanV3]

First in game purchase was for a free to play game called S4 league back in like 2008

[@erikrulez17]

41:45 Because people want to be affirmed in whatever they believe. or at least politely be told how & why they might be wrong.

[@OofieTV]

1:30:29 this was also my requirements when I bought my house, I am walking distance to a quiktrip, McDonalds and kfc.