Me: starts playing argonian playthrough Fudgemuppet next day: Argonians daedric?
@spikymarshmallow76113 жыл бұрын
I not long started an Argonian Slave mixed with Berserker elements, and Fudgemuppet uploads about Argonians. Coincidence? I think not!
@phexsten3 жыл бұрын
As Mehrunes Dagon learned the hard way. When you invade the Argonians, they invade back.
@etinarcadiaego74243 жыл бұрын
In Soviet Tamriel, Argonians invade you!
@Never_heart3 жыл бұрын
Dagon: Hey that's not fair that's my trick The Hist: hehe Argonians go brrrr
@timyuusis33723 жыл бұрын
Unless you're just nabbing a few slaves!
@noonenowhere8773 жыл бұрын
Dunmer also learned this the hard way.
@BigOrangeLizard3 жыл бұрын
@@etinarcadiaego7424 lol, that is funny and true as well.
@Exile_Sky3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Daedra fled from Blackmarsh and closed their side of the portal says a lot about the Argonians.
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam3 жыл бұрын
Well man can you imagine the pure horror of cracked out lizardmen swarming you and tearing your friends limb from limb some crawling like creepy creatures some hulking raging beasts. Also unless I'm remembering wrong, it was the argonians who closed the portal. From the daedra side. *gulp* *gets chased through portal by the beasts who then slam the door shut behind us* OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo-
@willsword81003 жыл бұрын
Given that neither the Daedra nor Tiber Septim could properly conquer blackmarsh.
@Exile_Sky3 жыл бұрын
@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam I thought it was the Daedra that did it themselves, but I could be misremembering. *It's been a long time*. Also, lmao.
@thomasrosendahl27833 жыл бұрын
Somehow Scott missed that, when he placed them last among the best lore races.
@kennethhuffman37543 жыл бұрын
@@Exile_Sky yes Dagon closed the portals in blackmarsh AFTER the argonians started to invade his realm of oblivion In a very successful attempt to close his portal. Basically the argonian counter attack was so effective that Dagon didn't think blackmarsh was worth the trouble.
@LcHR212123 жыл бұрын
FudgeMuppet: Argonians are daedric Bethesda: good idea, i'll be taking that
@katiefincher24333 жыл бұрын
I know that a lot of people think this sort of thing about Bethesda, but the fact is their Elder Scrolls lore is more or less "finished" internally at this point, with only a few true enigmas left. Argonian lore is "finished"... and they are not daedric-- nor are they aedric-- any more than sithis (sith-hist/sithis-ishist) omg) itself is aedric or daedric. It's neither, predating both.
@forgetaboutit13543 жыл бұрын
@@katiefincher2433 yeah...right...it's not like they regularly changed their lore throughout the years...right ? lmao
@Аллаявбар-ы8ч3 жыл бұрын
@@katiefincher2433 a dragon break wants to know your location... oh nvm, you didnt actually exist in the first place
@katiefincher24333 жыл бұрын
@@forgetaboutit1354 I mean, I used to work there so..... I would know. I'm not saying the lore was always pretty much done, I'm saying that for the first four ages plus the pre-eras, and most certainly the cosmology itself, it is more or less finished. Fifth era, I have no idea, I haven't been an employee of Bethesda (or Zenimax) for five years.
@katiefincher24333 жыл бұрын
@@Аллаявбар-ы8ч Hi russian person who wouldn't know.
@GTGizra3 жыл бұрын
So basically Dagon's forces were fucked from the second they stepped into Black Marsh. They were trying to invade another Daedric Lord's territory at that point.
@tanrata86583 жыл бұрын
More like the devil bumbled into Cthulu's lair.
@Ian-nl9yd3 жыл бұрын
i mean, we see deadra invade other deadric realms in the elder scrolls: battlespire. and i think it happens in eso too?, though i havent played eso
@tanrata86583 жыл бұрын
@@Ian-nl9yd Aedra and Daedra are common among man and mer and even the cat folk. Argonians and the Hist on the other hand depending on your sources are particularly alien compared to the rest of the continent.
@BigPanda0963 жыл бұрын
The Hist would probably dunk a Daedric Prince tbh. Lorewise they are pretty damn op, especially when the Argonians are near them, they are basically unbeatable. An army that knows everything the other forces are doing simultaneously while being empowered beyond normal mortal means. That's hard to beat even with godly power.
@23Raind3 жыл бұрын
@@BigPanda096 hard for an army of lesser daedra...sure. Hard for a deadric lord? Not remotely. What are the hist gonna do against an immaterial cosmic entity that can just chuck at moon a them (aka sheogorath)? How are the argonians going to save them from that?
@WASDLeftClick3 жыл бұрын
>Be Imperial Legionary >Get deployed to fight in Black Marsh >Tisn’t Me starts playing and the Hist trees start speaking Jel
@alexanderstilianov3 жыл бұрын
>Thank Stendarr you're not a Dark Elf and shout "PELINAL DID NOTHING WRONG!" >Hear slow clapping from the nearby bushes
@archades1153 жыл бұрын
Daedra invade Argonia. Argonians: *I'm not locked in here with you, YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!*
@DiogenesDworkinson2 жыл бұрын
Invasion request received, invitation accepted, mobilizing troops... One cannot resist the Hist!
@achmadtitofauzan38093 жыл бұрын
Lusty argonian maid lowkey is a lesser daedric prince
@rifflerunderhill70063 жыл бұрын
Definitely worshiped more than people let on, despite all the jokes.
@bigbrohybrid3 жыл бұрын
Naughty boys get pegged by the demon futa waifu scalie oWo coming to crunchyroll this frostfall 4E 2021
@lordwintertown82843 жыл бұрын
@@bigbrohybrid Damn that's been a long era 2021 thousand years lol for the fourth era.
@Batman_the_bad_man3 жыл бұрын
Argonians have quite a fascinating HISTory
@dinkledankle3 жыл бұрын
Yes, very fascinating histree.
@RealOngoGablogian3 жыл бұрын
Get out of here 😂
@kalebb12263 жыл бұрын
Take my like and. GO TO YOUR ROOM!
@DragonsREpic3 жыл бұрын
...humans suck
@fatmanyevo62353 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHA
@JustDaZack3 жыл бұрын
The hist talk a bit too much for my taste, but dang, they are just so charismatic and convincing!
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam3 жыл бұрын
All these years to find out the hist (besides a taste on oblivion) is just a couple annoying forced character tryhards. :(
@docop89263 жыл бұрын
@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam what do u mean by character tryhards?
@Zen-7513 жыл бұрын
@@docop8926 he doesn't actually know, he just said it to say it
@Im-Not-a-Dog3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Hist are Daedric, in that they came before Nirn making them "Original Spirits", but they did not lend to its creation, hence they are "Not Ancestors". But the Argonians are just mortals that have been augmented by them. Similar to how Hercine makes Werewolves, but Werewolves are not Daedra. Or how Molag Bal made Vampires, but Vampires are not inherently Daedric in nature.
@sancturillore3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. That's a very good point. Werewolves and Vampires are indeed both not Daedric even though they come from Daedras. Thank you for bringing that up.
@draconian_dragons65883 жыл бұрын
The souls of argonians are recycled similarly to deadra or things like dark seducers and golden saints
@Im-Not-a-Dog3 жыл бұрын
@@draconian_dragons6588 Yup. And the sould of all mortals go through the same(or at least an eerily similar) process in the Dream Sleeve.
@angkhoanguyen61143 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The original homeland of the Hists which located in Oblivion was destroyed in the Ehlnofey War between Man and Mer.
@stuartjohnson5686 Жыл бұрын
According to ESO Molag Ball's intent was just to hurt Arkay but it led to creation of vampires who hate both Molab Bal and Arkay.
@pingpong58773 жыл бұрын
Everyone's laughing until the trees start speaking Argonianese.
@arempy58363 жыл бұрын
*Jel
@Finn140293 жыл бұрын
?
@kirkcannon80793 жыл бұрын
@@arempy5836 *joke
@Emily-jy4wv3 жыл бұрын
“Take that n’wah’s septims”
@waluigi35153 жыл бұрын
@@Emily-jy4wv that's the dunmer
@noonenowhere8773 жыл бұрын
The Hist Trees: Stop trying to compromise our national security Imperial Researchers: Aaah so scary! The Hist Trees: Stop stealing our subjects! Dunmer: Aaah why are we being attacked? The Hist Trees: No invading! counter invasion activate! Mehrunes Dagon: Aaaah! This is illegal.
@spikymarshmallow76113 жыл бұрын
The Hist's secret weapon is an Uno Reverse Card
@Outcrow3 жыл бұрын
Argonian: *Licks Hist sap* “We require more minerals.” “We require more minerals.” “Spawn more Shadowscales.” “The Hist Cluster is under attack!” “We require more minerals.”
@lambrioza3 жыл бұрын
Hist gives Argonian super soldier serum to invade Oblivion: EVOLUTION COMPLETE!
@jetnebula79153 жыл бұрын
Is this some sort of ESOnline joke that I'm too Single-Player to understand?
@Oaglor3 жыл бұрын
@@jetnebula7915 It's a Starcraft joke.
@sleepysartorialist3 жыл бұрын
NICE
@rifflerunderhill70063 жыл бұрын
Construct additional ziggurats.
@etinarcadiaego74243 жыл бұрын
Hist: "Kill all the dunmer." Argonian: "But it's not our way!" Hist: "DEW IT!" Argonian: "Oh, okay!"
@deondreglenn65243 жыл бұрын
Starwars Palpatine to ankin in ROTS
@jaeger39053 жыл бұрын
It was more like this High elves:"Hey do you want to help us with our invasion?" Argonians: "Nah we're good." The Hist: "Ah good, they chose to be peacef-" An-Xi'leel: *INITIATE EXTERMINATUS*
@jetnebula79153 жыл бұрын
" b e c a u s e w e a r e t i g h t e r t h a n b a r k o n a h i s t t r e e"
@lordbalthosadinferni43843 жыл бұрын
DEW IT DEW THE DEW
@jaeger39053 жыл бұрын
@@jetnebula7915 was that in the latest issue of the lusty argonian maid?
@nightterror67273 жыл бұрын
Mehrunes Dagon: Tries to invade all of Tamriel Argonians: *_Uno reverse card_*
@ShadeMeadows3 жыл бұрын
Hist: "We got Dibs on the Realm already"
@argacc94343 жыл бұрын
The last major elder scrolls game came out almost ten years ago and you can still pump quality content out like this. Yesterday I was watching your Arizona/Utah fallout video and was amazed at the thought you guys put into it. I just love this channel
@fabricatorgeneralchadius11143 жыл бұрын
They are my favourite KZbinrs I love these guys
@dave13173 жыл бұрын
Eso is a major game? They infact use tons of pictures and lore directly from eso....
@Corrinelester743 жыл бұрын
Almost 8* eso is a major game
@dave13173 жыл бұрын
Yea and if you are a xbox player most lile 6 years
@TheBlakamon153 жыл бұрын
@Nero Beerus Disagree. I understand you do not like the game but you cannot disregard the game like it does not exist. Eso is a very successful game. Seven year game that is still getting new content. It has so much lore that it eclipses the lore that is in the main elder scrolls games and it builds upon the lore from all of them. Not just Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind but Daggerfall and Arena. Also Redguard. To call Eso not an elder scrolls game is just pure ignorance.What makes a game a elder scrolls games is the lore and world not gameplay since all the actual main games all played differently.
@thomasrosendahl27833 жыл бұрын
There might be a connection between the early Daedric Chimer civilization and the tribal Argonians, since they both lived in Southern Morrowind where there is swamp areas like black marsh.
@tomix77123 жыл бұрын
The Argonians used obsidian in the old weapons. With Red Mountain being the only volcano they would have access to it seems that the Argonians had presence all the way through Morrowind before the Chimer were even there. Which is why they have also connection with the dwemer (their shields and maces have a design similar to that of dwemer architecture). When thw Chimwr first came they most likely fought the Argonians back down into Black Marsh where the Hist are.
@morrigankasa5703 жыл бұрын
Argonions are my favorite race tied with Orcs and Bosmer. Favorite human race is Breton.
@TheCheese19883 жыл бұрын
I like the Nords the most, especially the lore-accurate ones. Skyrim did them a bit dirty, in my mind. The further north you go, the more the Nords were supposed to be part of the wind, wearing less clothing, not being cold, and being fast and agile.
@Draazen3 жыл бұрын
Kek the only reason bretons are you favorite human race is because their only half human!
@morrigankasa5703 жыл бұрын
@@Draazen perhaps but it is mainly due to game mechanics/abilities. Nords the Warcry thing is pointless who wants their enemies to run away makes it more difficult to kill them. Imperial Voice of the Emperor is similarly pointless why try to calm enemies unless you are a Vampire needing to feed then you have Vampiric Seduction that you get at the necessary time, otherwise just slaughter them all. Redguards Adrenaline Rush is also pointless regenerating stamina. While Bretons their Dragonskin absorbs magic so is helpful to reduce damage. Also beyond abilities natural other things then Nord and Redguard have reasonable use with Cold Resistance and Poison Resistance but Magic Resistance beats Cold Resistance cause beyond just resisting cold attacks it also applies to other elemental attacks. Imperial doesn't even have a resistance of some kind. Also Bosmer beats Redguard cause not only does it have the Poison Resistance they also have Disease Resistance so that beats out Redguard though admittedly the Bosmer ability is also fairly pointless but the duel resistances makes them valid.
@electricc4373 жыл бұрын
Imagine facing an argonian with a machiavellian personality holding a macedonian sword working in an italian garrison for a draconian purpose.
@Lcgx3 жыл бұрын
i love watching these lore videos, they’re so relaxing and enjoyable
@zackdelarosa143 жыл бұрын
Literally taking a nap listening to this. 👌
@Lcgx3 жыл бұрын
@@zackdelarosa14 there too interesting for me to miss out on but i do get that same sleepy feeling 😂
@TheWhiteDragon33 жыл бұрын
"Elsweyr and elswhere" is such a good line. I left a like just for that
@the_teymur_3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching you guys during the Oblivion Let’s Play with Robyn Pierre. Long story short, I just rediscovered this channel thanks to your podcasts, and now I’m hooked. Your videos are an excellent listening material to work out to, keep up the sensational work 👍
@FudgeMuppet3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Thomw723 жыл бұрын
I've heard of the stoned ape theory but the stoned lizard theory is a new one... Lol. Excellent one.
@mrself58243 жыл бұрын
Something has shifted in Argonia, egg brother.
@ZonarohGaming3 жыл бұрын
I knew I loved the Argonians for a reason! Who knew the Daedra were a playable race after all? Also new theory; the Hist roots are slowly covering all of Tamriel and are one day gonna change all of Tamriel into swamp for the Argonians to rule for them.
@ChronicNewb Жыл бұрын
So like Florida?
@alphacraig2001 Жыл бұрын
@@ChronicNewb Magic Florida
@tineshboopathy98193 жыл бұрын
If Argonians are Daedric, then perhaps that would explain why the Dunmer go: "Hippity hoppity, Argonians are property." After all binding Daedric creations are something commonly done.
@Wired_User3 жыл бұрын
Nah, they’re just really racist (or at least used to be). The Dunmer think anything that isn’t an elf is just a talking animal, subhuman for lack of a better term. Other elves are below them too, but they’re at least considered people. Beast races get it the worst. Orcs of course are dumped in with the beast races, because they love to pretend Orcs aren’t elves even though the Dunmer LITERALLY came from the same conflict that created Orcs. Source: Morrowind dialogue on the Dunmer’s view of necromancy. I think from the Orc necromancer in the Balmora Mages Guild. To them, playing with animal souls isn’t necromancy, which includes all the other races because ThEy’Re NoT pEoPlE.
@gamermoment6563 жыл бұрын
@@Wired_User The Ordinators would like to know your location
@Wired_User3 жыл бұрын
@@gamermoment656 Ah never you mind sera, I’m a member of the Temple!
@Seth-uo4zn3 жыл бұрын
@@Wired_User I mean, they aren't people. Dunmer literally are the master race
@Wired_User3 жыл бұрын
@@Seth-uo4zn Nah, that’s the Altmer.
@thaneofwhiterun35623 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Indoril Nerevar was alive
@whiterunguard57493 жыл бұрын
I trust the day's found you well, thane.
@marcanthony31673 жыл бұрын
have you found my sweet roll yet???
@whiterunguard57493 жыл бұрын
@@marcanthony3167 yes nazeem has eaten it, so he is now spending life in the Whiterun dungeons, your welcome.
@marcanthony31673 жыл бұрын
justice is served!
@koru13623 жыл бұрын
"The roots hold us all together." Have you guys learned at all about mycelium networks? This is a Real Thing! I love the notion that the Hist is Tamriel's version of mycelium. Check it out!
@Random_Chiroptera3 жыл бұрын
This lore should be used to make a Skyrim mod giving similar effects to Argonians when consuming Sleeping Tree Sap. Enai Saion's Wintersun Faiths of Skyrim Mod identifies the Sleeping Tree as a Hist tree.
@BaalFridge3 жыл бұрын
The Hist are better rulers than most emperors. All hail our argonian overlords.
@georgemurdock76703 жыл бұрын
Only argonian thing that rules is the taste of an argonian egg omelette
@echos58233 жыл бұрын
THE EMPEROR IS AN ARGONIAN IN A SKIN SUIT!!!! -Alexius Jonius. Probably.
@BigOrangeLizard3 жыл бұрын
@@georgemurdock7670 I confirm.
@arempy58363 жыл бұрын
@@echos5823 I'M TIRED OF THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER TURNING THE FREAKING LIZARDS SMART!
@ReformedSauron3 жыл бұрын
"Merry, the tree is talking!" "Don't talk to it Pip! Don't encourage it!"
@xanderdaniels82843 жыл бұрын
If you guys have never driven home from work while listening to these lore videos, do yourself a favor and try it. Best commute in a while
@Aethuviel3 жыл бұрын
""Both in Elsweyr, and elsewhere on the continent" Oh, clever boy.
@brigittehuber97453 жыл бұрын
Man, I've been watching this chanel for far too long now. Just saw the title and thought: "Ah, Drew uploaded a new video." I love how you always come up with theories that make much more sense (or are at least much more original) as the confirmed lore. Please keep up the good work (all three of you)!
@XelionGraves3 жыл бұрын
Now Mehrunes Dagon is trying to invade again. Rise up my Argonian brethren, it's time to teach the big guy another lesson.
@NieroshaiTheSable3 жыл бұрын
Simple test. Find a Hist's name, kill it, summon it. If it works, it's a daedra.
@angrybanana54763 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is truly a scientist's best friend
@GeraltORivia3 жыл бұрын
If it doesn’t, you just murdered a magic tree
@davidleroth86443 жыл бұрын
@@GeraltORivia murdered a magic tree for SCIENCE
@arthurjohnson74733 жыл бұрын
You'll have to learn how to speak Tree first, though. Good luck getting the Vietnamese to teach you.
@BigOrangeLizard3 жыл бұрын
@@arthurjohnson7473 lmao
@adammenhennett3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Great research and as usual a sublime video. Thanks for all the legendary work.
@SilverFang27893 жыл бұрын
We need an An-Xileel Warrior build soon
@thomasrosendahl27833 жыл бұрын
Argonians also have powerful nightblades and spellswords, nords, orsimers and redguards only have martial talents, so a magic combat hybrid build is out of the question.
@DensApri3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasrosendahl2783 not true, ancient nords had mages
@ikeaman72473 жыл бұрын
@@thomasrosendahl2783 although it’s uncommon any of those people from those races could do magic if they wanted to. It’s not like there is anything stopping them
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Every single race can do magic. What the fuck is Sword Singing for redguards? I would argue it's a form of magic. There are orsimer prophets/sages/healers/etc. Same with Nords. Idk what the fuck you're on about no magic lmao
@PR0J3CTMKU3 жыл бұрын
@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam facts magic literally is just divine life energy pretty much in elder scrolls
@tysonkestner033 жыл бұрын
I love how TES lore is in depth to the point where the tes universe’s origin story isn’t just unknown but is contested between multiple myths based on race, religion, and culture. I have myself convinced either this one or the nirn being a daedric realm one are the truth theu make the most sense
@ladsinc5273 жыл бұрын
I for one welcome our argonian overlords of tamriel with the hist at their side
@chrishouterman47723 жыл бұрын
Jaara: “Finally, I’ll hear the Hist”. Hist: “Shiiiiiiii, what up cuh?!
@Eldincy3 жыл бұрын
My green Argonian is choping wood while I listen to Drew
@qahnaarinsedov12683 жыл бұрын
What if the hist trees are just an extension of Lorkhan, meaning that the Argonians are just daedric beings made by Sithis, which is why they can be so powerful.
@marcusmcclain32513 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone in-universe realizes just what kind of threat the HIST are to Nirn as we know it. Talos guard us from these alien bonzai.
@noonenowhere8773 жыл бұрын
To be honest they only seem to lash out when they are wronged. Maybe Nirn just needs to learn to leave well enough alone.
@MrsTavington3 жыл бұрын
Hardly, you have that backwards. The Hist were here long before anything else, so the "alien" are the races not native to Tamriel... including Nords, who are a threat themselves.
@muslimcrusader59873 жыл бұрын
@@MrsTavington True Nords came from Atmora
@douglaspurcell91993 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been saying for a while that the Argonians are gonna be making big moves soon. They've been isolated and nearly non consequential for way too long in the lore. Can you imagine how terrifying they would be on a next gen console with realistic graphics? I would shit myself if I just saw a squad of them rising out of the water in front of me lol
@thescholarlychronicler18053 жыл бұрын
Marcus McClain -- They're only a threat in response, so long as you leave them alone, they won't have any dreams or desires of conquest. Every time they've attacked, it has been in response to something that threatened them.
@mrfivegold3 жыл бұрын
Its explained in books in Daggerfall that the Atlmer when they controlled the continent created creatures that share humanoid and beastly characteristics, that's why we have centaurs, minotaurs, and the like. That would also explain Khajiit and Argonians.
@lordslashingtonsmoments61253 жыл бұрын
So are the altmer the guys behind the moons with khajiit and the hist trees with argonians?
@charmolettafranquestafiestayam3 жыл бұрын
@@lordslashingtonsmoments6125 The moons is something else imo but I could see the altmer creating argonians (so long ago its mostly forgotten) and then the argonians eventually finding the Hist. Remember the hist is it's own entity. If I recall correctly they weren't always in a symbiotic relationship
@papadoug46813 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if A. That stuff is retconned given that it wasn't bethesda that wrote those (but that's boring). So lets have fun with it and say that B. it's Altemer Propaganda to make them out to be superior. I wouldn't put it past them. After all they are no strangers to re writing history to suite their own ends ;)
@mrfivegold3 жыл бұрын
@@papadoug4681 Well the Atlmer did create goblins, and have been said in Morrowind to have been responsible for the creation of the Dreugh. And it has been implied that the moon cycle and hist were gifts from the gods, other than the 8, but that was retconned along with other deities created in Daggerfall and Arena.
@papadoug46813 жыл бұрын
@@mrfivegold I'm sure just about all the cool stuff from the first 2 games that contradict the current lore (or vice versa) can be waved away as being retconned. But that gets boring honestly. I think it can be more fun to try and find reasonable lore explanations for things not entirely being true from back then lol Though i hadn't touched all the old lore myself. Pretty cool fact about the goblins and Dreugh though. Didn't know that myself.
@ZeroSeriesMMX3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was late, I was trapped in one of those "transportation networks" of Black Marsh.
@Joe_Potts3 жыл бұрын
(Squishy knocking sound) "Can somebody cut me out of here?"
@xfirexrainx66683 жыл бұрын
I'd love if they made an elder scrolls that ends with the kalpa cycle resetting, it would be interesting
@Nova-jw6ju3 жыл бұрын
Blackmarsh is just the southern coast of Louisiana. Dont say im wrong, you know im right. I wouldnt be surprised to see a lizard man walking around in New Orleans.
@alexanderstilianov3 жыл бұрын
My new Oblivion character is a Hand-to-hand Argonian fighter named Throws-Many-Punches. While he was still in the Imperial prison he received a vision of the upcoming Oblivion crisis but he was still locked up. The vision, which was, of course, sent to all Argonians by the Hist, showed him that the majority of his marsh-brothers and marsh-sisters were returning to the homeland and becoming empowered by the sap in order to prepare for the Daedric invasion. By the time Throws-Many-Punches got out of jail, he figured he might as well stay in Cyrodiil, train with the Fighters Guild and protect the locals who had no idea what was about to befall them since he was shown that Black Marsh would emerge victorious anyway.
@buckrichards39653 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the really big tree with the orange glowing things hanging from it kinda looks like the eldergleem tree
@true49763 жыл бұрын
Thats the hist tree, the purple looking one in skyrim is different cuz its like a subspecies of hist that grew on a floating city made by a character called umbra.
@justsomewitcherwithalongsw42333 жыл бұрын
Just a character is an understatement. Sentient Sword, Host of the current Wielder, Bane of Clavicus Vile. It holds many titles. Too bad we didn’t get to encounter it in Skyrim.
@MLPDethDealr323 жыл бұрын
@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 THe Legacy of the Dragonborn mod adds Umbra back into the game. Its being carried by an Orc somewhere outside of Markarth. Its also a great way to pick up a full set of Ebony Armor early game.
@true49763 жыл бұрын
@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 haha yeah but I didnt wanna overwhelm them with all the details! Just enough so they could find out more if they liked :-)
@pisscvre693 жыл бұрын
@TRUEthatguy thats not the Eldergleam thats the sleeping tree from the sleeping tree camp, the eldergleam has been there since before time tho so it may be similar or maybe something like that is inherent to creation daedric hist or aedric
@TheSkaara3 жыл бұрын
This video was well made. Keep up the greate work!
@supercalifragic15513 жыл бұрын
The comment on how the swamp changes made me imagine a TES game with random generation, randomizing the Black Marsh or areas of the black marsh per playthrough, or per load. This tool would also be able to give us endless Daedric realms or otherwise dungeons we could explore. How interesting could it be for a full RNG RPG, that continuously generates worlds as you travel as you wish, minecraft style (Not graphics, the near endless terrain generation). Obviously far more advanced than a game that came out what 15 years ago? Not a TES game unless there were some story reason for the world collapsing and reality being unmade or something and the player is like an anchor re-binding reality giving it new form and shape. A good complicated generator that doesn't just handle terrain and dynamic cities and buildings (As well as a host of pre-made assets to just place like story locations or important cities (The outskirts of which could still be generated for more expansive cities), but also generate NPCs, factions, reputation systems (Generated faction x hates generated faction y, and is allied with generated faction z, and the generator determines Conflict Points by mapping the terrain between the two factions and plotting paths of travel, and placing forts and checkpoints, and patrols). No voiced NPCs, only generic sounds, all text. Text that can be generated in addition to premade "Personalities" for important characters, and premade NPCs in general that have a ton more detail such as a collection of premade story characters, romance options, and companions, while there would also still be possible generated companions. A system for the generation of armor, clothes, and weapons would also be incredible, when generating a faction or region it'd generate a Style for that faction and base object designs around that style, pulling from a suite of assets for Materials, textures, and and shapes. And of course, you could make your own clothes or armor by pulling from the same assets in a crafting menu via Tailoring and Blacksmithing skills. If the terrain can be generated, it should be possible to likewise allow deformation, destruction, and creation. Mining, tunneling, sieging buildings. Burn down a town, a dragon attack melting stone walls and leaving ash-shadows of people that were too close. Permanent scars of conflict, player and NPC made. But also a system for fixing these things. NPCs will passively do repairs on their own except when some threshhold is met for being too damaged, and a threshhold shared by the town at large if enough structures and people were destroyed or killed, then the village, town, or city would be abandoned into a ghost town and you could find the survivors as refuges traveling elsewhere and slowly adapting to a new location, and you might even recognize an NPC from a ruined village as a body on the road or in a dungeon as they were picked off by bandits or monsters or betrayed, ect. I feel like this should be entirely possible. Skyrim is almost a decade old. As is Minecraft, though pretty sure it was out for years before that release date google gives.
@sancturillore3 жыл бұрын
So, like Daggerfall, but with more stuff?
@realzachfluke13 жыл бұрын
Damn, I’ll never be able to unsee this theory. I really do have to admit, it’s an *extremely* compelling case. Just as extreme as the marshes and swamps deep in the heart of Argonia 😉🦎👾
@TheJedaiHero90003 жыл бұрын
They are my 2nd favorite race in The Elder Scrolls series. Enjoyed watching and listening to this one right here!
@CB-vx1fu3 жыл бұрын
this channel has slowly become my favorite. Skyrim lore is so cool.
@paladinofthelostdays73923 жыл бұрын
I love this idea of a Bethesda writer staff meeting where they get together, hammer out some of this complicated, multifaceted, shape shifting lore that can be taken in so many ways, all the while knowing that some random KZbin channel will painstakingly break down every detail and completely unravel the mystery of the Elder Scrolls
@missspider35723 жыл бұрын
Love the video. For years I played nothing but highelves. Last year switched to bretons. After this video I am switching to argonian.
@Muddeth633 жыл бұрын
Just wanted some input from the experts, I’m replaying Skyrim SE with the Alternate Start mod, and I’m playing as a High Elf Thalmor, and I want to role play in the direction that she has just recently joined the Thalmor and got transferred to Skyrim, but then she slowly starts to realize how fucked up the Empire and the Thalmor are and I would like her to experience some in game experiences of this so she’ll change and eventually take up arms with the Stormcloaks. I’ve helped the Grey-Manes in Whiterun save their son, and I’ve joined the College of Winterhold because High Elf mages. But any in game examples anyone can give me would be appreciated! Also using most of Enai Siaions mods like Ordinator, Apocalypse, and Wintersun and she is worshipping Syrabane.
@darkdragoking21863 жыл бұрын
You do know that the thalmor are for the rebellion
@michaelpettersson49193 жыл бұрын
@@darkdragoking2186 Only as long as it is ungoing. Should they, or the imperials win and finish the war however...
@athanasshia3 жыл бұрын
If the Duskfall never happened and their stone masks didn't crumble, those Argonians would proceed to become the ultimate lifeform by tapping into the power of a red stone. They would become invincible! Immortal! Unkillable! Unmatched!
@funkboy143 жыл бұрын
Lol, with Closed Captions it says “Argonians worship Syphilis.”
@eusoumaniaco3 жыл бұрын
Just a small nitpick: argonians don’t serve Sithis by going only to the DB, as even Veezara at the sanctuary states he was bred to serve an argonian order of assassins that died out, then and only then he went to the brotherhood.
@NamelessKing15973 жыл бұрын
In my head canon the Hist most likely figured out how to stay on Nirn while maintaining their omnipotence and omniscience by destroying their sense of self and becoming identical unidentifiable trees that rely on other creatures to exert their will. essentially Chim in reverse.
@BigPanda0963 жыл бұрын
So that's why Mehruns was like "wait they invaded us back? Fuck close the portal!"
@nat0404963 жыл бұрын
This is probably a shot for the moon, but i would love to see an ES game where if you start as an Argonian and pick the Shadown sign as your birth sign, you start in the Dark Brotherhood or have a unique starting point that leads you to it.
@jpf79422 жыл бұрын
*Argonians walking into the Deadlands juiced out of their mind on hist "Nice place nigga"
@emmittodd23733 жыл бұрын
Mankar Camoran: TAMRIEL AI DAEDROTH Me: wow that guy is crazy Fudgemuppet: ARGONIANS ARE DAEDRIC Me: of course, how did I not see this earlier?
@Alphatreeyyyy3 жыл бұрын
you also missed the fact that the argonians believe that their souls are given to them by the hist which would suggest the Argonian body is just a vestige of its own as well. When they die their souls return to the Hist to be born again
@haphazardlark15023 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t even thought of this!
@Mephilis783 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Argonian Behemoths were just a nod to Super Mutant Behemoths tbh
@trafo603 жыл бұрын
The best thing about ESO is that ES lore youtubers now have footage for all the other provinces
@duncan4726 Жыл бұрын
Argonians: Counter invades Oblivion The Deadra: “Close shut the jaws, of Argonia!”
@Curious_Traveler3 жыл бұрын
The lore just doesn’t back this theory. The idea about The Hist being Daedric I can get behind, but not the Argonians. Chaotic Creatia in the form of Amber Plasm may have been responsible for uplifting the Helstrom Ancestor Lizard to be the Argonians, but that lizard already had a soul no different than any other creature or mortal. The Hist did not create the Argonians, they only changed them like Azura did with the Chimer/Dunmer and Khajiit. Part of that change must have been increasing the size of the soul in some way. Not worshipping the Aedra/Daedra only makes sense, they are not descended from them. They are just mere creations, and their fear or reverence towards Sithis could be attributed to the Amber Plasm. The Argonians probably know on an instinctual level that they owe their existence to Sithis, while knowing that their existence may be wrong on Nirn.
@loneronin68133 жыл бұрын
I didn't need anymore reasons to click on this video other than the fact that it's about Argonians. They are my favorite race to play as in The Elder Scrolls Series since I first played Morrowind as a kid. I especially loved playing as them in Oblivion, usually emphasizing the hand-to-hand, athletics, and acrobatics skills.
@flpnj14193 жыл бұрын
You’d think that ads would be personalized to the video subject, but I got a Trojan ad. That is literally the opposite of this.
@mysticranger68943 жыл бұрын
Is the lusty argonian maid a Daedric Prince? The potentials make me smile.
@igncom12 жыл бұрын
Imagine marching your army into the swamp, camp for the night, only to wake up surrounded by a mountain range made out of roots, with your only escape being the way you came in.
@Mr.Xarxes3 жыл бұрын
Todd: write that down, write that down!
@JW-zx5dr2 жыл бұрын
Very intriguing once again FM
@RamblingMan.3 жыл бұрын
Far into the future I see an elder scrolls game not probably buy the same moniker anymore but an elder scrolls game nonetheless and in this game it finally stretches on kirkbride's theories and we come back to Nirn after we left it for some time and it looks old and different and decrepit could be like some star fields type stuff you know kind of like how SG 1 and Stargate finds out they're actually alterans instead of humans
@kenzauter66262 жыл бұрын
You are a master content creator and this was a wonderful and exciting video. Perhaps Arogonians defy definition. Neither Daedra nor “organically” Tamrielic. Perhaps they’re some kind of hybrid or evolutionary step? All I know is I love them and they look soooo good in Dragonscale armor!
@galty19873 жыл бұрын
This was so ASMRish to me... Muchas gracias
@arandomzoomer48373 жыл бұрын
They're certainly involved with Oblivion, at least, we kinda see that in the infernal city/lord of souls books
@lemonlefleur62363 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently realized that Khajiit and Bosmer are likely variations of Argonians. Khajiit love Moon Sugar which I believe may be Hist Sap altered by Azura that when consumed maintains the Khajiit connections to the lunar cycles. Bosmer, or Wood Elves / Tree Sap Elves, are likely the Sappy offspring of the Bosmer deity who’s name I can’t spell but I know has been depicted as a massive tree. I believe the Wild Hunt is based around consuming Hist Sap which has been seen to cause alterations in Argonians. Given what the Wild Hunt does to Bosmer, it makes sense that their parent deity would prohibit the consumption of plants in the hopes of avoiding sap eating.
@timecoldslow29503 жыл бұрын
i thought the argonians were related to the dragons at first since their like mini dragon people
@Im-Not-a-Dog3 жыл бұрын
I think Lyg was one of the 12 worlds, and now all thats left of it is at the bottom of Nirn's oceans.
@OgieSifter2 жыл бұрын
I like the implication the two part novel made, where there's like an issue of communication between hist and argonian. Like if they were 100% egg made by the hist it would be like a 1/1 mind link to the evermind
@natebadger9273 жыл бұрын
Great Video Fudge
@FivoreJD3 жыл бұрын
Before the hist, nothing existed... except FudgeMuppet.
@taleril58153 жыл бұрын
The only video in my suggestions that I wanted to click on today.
@saltydunmer3 жыл бұрын
Fudgemuppet: Honourable and beautiful people. Me, an intellectual: ARGONIANS ARE PROPERTY!
@cy31253 жыл бұрын
A sect of the Vigilants of Stendarr hunting argonians with this mindset would be a great side plot
@Broken_valley3 жыл бұрын
I like to see a race war between the dark elf’s and the lizard boys it would make a interesting dynamic to have the two races truly hate each other
@abyssstrider25473 жыл бұрын
You didn't play Morrowind, did you?
@Kartuvelis3 жыл бұрын
Argonian and Khajiit where slaves for Dunmers(dark elves) but then not. I never played morrowind but it's lores i heard so that's why they don't really like eachother
@artifex2.0803 жыл бұрын
An-Xileel Time
@hyperboreanarchives72993 жыл бұрын
Like any sensible Dunmer will tell you; 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒚'𝒓𝒆 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝒈𝒐𝒐𝒅 𝒂𝒔 𝒇𝒂𝒓𝒎 𝒆𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒑𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒐𝒓 𝒔𝒏𝒂𝒌𝒆-𝒔𝒌𝒊𝒏 𝒃𝒐𝒐𝒕𝒔. *𝕿𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖆𝖓𝖓𝖎 𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖗𝖊𝖘𝖊𝖓𝖙*
@KryyssTV3 жыл бұрын
Argonian creation mythology seems like the true origins of the Et'Ada and the Realms. Of all accounts it describes two opposing beings entering the void of Oblivion to find a newly formed Nirn. This sounds very much like the two most powerful survivors of the last Kalpa passing into the next andcbeing venerated as gods. The shattering of the original Nirn explains the many planes of Oblivion and why they bear similarities to Nirn itself. This may become the events of the next TES game where you, the hero, fail to prevent the end of the current Kalpa but manage to stop the villian from destroying the newly formed Nirn.
@Vandelberger3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, wonder what Hist mead taste like?
@kck-kck8793 жыл бұрын
Judging by what it did to you in Oblivion, you'd probably end up thinking your mug was a honeybadger
@joshuamourning66503 жыл бұрын
@@kck-kck879 and that the dog in the corner is a daedric gourd of doom
@LeDardeursPalace3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a slogan taken straight from a Tamriel's War on Drugs ad.
@vivalafiaga2 жыл бұрын
well....that would explain why when blackmarsh was subject to a daedric incursion, their response was to not just repel it but to go invade oblivion i guess
@40KWill3 жыл бұрын
Infernal City implird they were from the realm of Clavicus Vile.
@adrianaslund860511 ай бұрын
So it makes sense to me that the Hist trees are sentient daedric plants that took up housing in Nirn. Maybe they floated in like mold on the aether or something. And then they uplifted the local wildlife to create a loyal ecosystem to protect them. They're not really malicious though. They're fine with just hanging out with their Argonian peeps.