Griffin - Hungarian Bow by Paragon - Review

[@leecsaszar4575]

Wow Armin! The Griffin is so nice of a bow, fireworks celebrated it's performance.

[@guy5274]

I loved the fireworks and bells in the background.

[@agamagreen]

Ahhh… I knew, that I need a Griffin… 😁 My husband will go crazy 😂 Thank you so much for the very *Boom* entertaining *Boom Boom* video, dear *Boom* Armin! 😁🙏

[@ArminHirmer]

hahaha thank you

[@agamagreen]

@@ArminHirmer 😄

[@ambidextrousarchery]

Wow! I was looking forward to this one, and it was a joy to watch. Genuine reactions, researched information, experienced observation and reflection, focus through distractions, and learned technique combined with the amazing bow and appreciation for the bowyer all make this one of my favorite of your reviews thus far. 🙇🏻‍♂️🏹

[@singharchery3043]

The greenish tone looks cool and premium. Robert does justice with the Bow he makes. Not every Bow is favorable for beginners, one has to earn skill with practice so that one can enjoy the next level. So this Bow Bow is next level Bow. Such Bows need to be synced with the Archer, then Archer enjoy with them and perfomance comes. Hungarian Bows are not meant for speed, but emphasised more on stability and accuracy and Griffin is perfect design of Hungarian Short Bow Very well done Robert and Thank you very much Armin for such a minutely detailed review.. when good Bow is there , even reviews takes deep interest... even in distraction, Armin kept to describing ...Kudos 👍👍👍👍👍

[@jedgurley]

Hehe,, this was priceless, sounds like the forth of July in American south, but we don't do that during the day , it's all a show and lights with the sounds of the booms as a bonus.

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Weight on the siyahs is not wasted, When the string is released, the bow wants to return to its unstrung shape, stopped only by the string. Any mass in the limbs and siyahs will get accelerated and then will keep going past the point that the string stops it, more-so when the siyahs have more mass. You are choosing between raw initial speed which is great for light arrows when you have light siyahs, with slower acceleration and a bigger kick at the end which helps heavier arrows fly faster when you have massive siyahs...

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Look at Armin's review video for the AF Crab bow. One can clearly see the massive ears spring further forward than braced position when shooting the bow. In my experience with that crab bow, heavy arrows fly almost as fast as 9gpp arrows. It looks and feels eery, surprising and fun to feel the weight of the arrow and then it still flies fast, almost as fast as the lighter arrow I just shot a second ago... The heavier the arrow, the more of the bow mass will be useful instead of wasted into shocking the bow itself.

[@jkre]

That is not how bows work, sorry, but no. Heavy siyahs are never, repeat never, a good thing. Because, a bow stores an amount x of energy, that energy is shared to move the limbs and siyahs, the string and the arrow. The heavier the limbs and or siyahs are, the more of that energy x is used to move them, so less energy is left for the arrow and string, also minimizing the string mass, leaves more energy to arrow just like minimizing the limb/siyah mass does. I'm a bowyer, and bow making first rule is, minimize the moving mass to get speed, that is true, no matter the arrow weight. If there is 2 identical bows but other ones have heavier siyahs, that bow will always be slower, no matter the arrow weight, light or heavy.

[@Daylon91]

Lol you'd be a big fan of flagellas bows then lmao 🤣

[@jkre]

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 the reason why a bow with heavy siyahs is nearly as fast (if you can call it fast) with heavy arrows as light, is not because it throws heavy arrows fast (witch it doesn't), it is because it throws light arrows slow. Bows have certain dry speed, the potential maximum speed, and the heavier the siyahs are, the slower that dry speed is. Light arrows are closer to that dry speed than heavy arrows, so heavy siyahs effect is more visible on light arrows for that reason. But also heavy arrows fly faster on bows with light siyahs than from heavy siyahs bows, but the speed difference is more noticeable with light arrows. This difference between light and heavy arrow speeds is greater on bows with contact siyahs, like the crab bow you mentioned. Contact siyah bows store more energy than non contact bows and they do that by having higher early draw weight. High early draw weight helps especially when shooting heavy arrows, cus light arrows reash the speed much faster, so it is not as much needed with light arrows to have that higher energy at the end of the power stroke as it is with heavy arrows that accelerate slower and thus benefit from the energy at the end more because they are not as close to the dry speed at that point as light arrows are. But light arrows do also benefit from it, but since they are closer to dry speed, there is not as much potential speed left as there is with heavy arrows. And this also does not mean that contact siyahs are always faster than non contact ones, they do store more energy, but if non contact ones are lighter, then they use less energy to move them selves, so more is left to the arrow and it's faster even though it has less potential energy stored.

[@srinjoyroychoudhury7034]

I knew paragon was secretly making a Hungarian bow. The writing was on the wall.

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Congratulations 🎊 with that beautiful bow you have fireworks 🎆 😁

[@tammynfletcher]

What a pretty bow! Robert's craftsmanship is impeccable! I really like the design. If it performs as good as his Khan it's a great bow. I do like the fact that it's not a wiggly bow like my asymmetrical hun bow. And Robert is excellent to do business with. Thanks for another great review as usual! I think my wife might be upset with me again! " How many bows does one man need!" Hahaha!

[@ArminHirmer]

who counts :D :D and needs.... what are needs. Some bows one just has town :D

[@Imer2276]

Oh my God… So, I have 14 bows, and I still need a Segye, a Xuanwu and a Yarha 2 from Alibow, and now, this Griffin is the next one I’ll get 😍

[@jenjen7728]

The Green Hornet!! Beautiful, over the top bow, wow. Gorgeous curves, great sound. Enjoy that one Armin. The dichotomy between you with your bow quietly and mindfully going about your business and the mindless ones booming away was quite striking. This was like watching a microcosm of life on earth these past three years. Wow. Thanks Armin for a great video and Paragon for a magnificent bow.

[@russparker1647]

It would be interesting if you would measure the reflex of the unstrung bow, string knock to string knock to the back of the grip. Then give a comparison to other Asian bows more or less than average.

[@GunnerRDS]

God Bless you, Armin

[@fasalwalayat1052]

In my opinion Rob from Paragon bows should be classed as a master bowyer. I got my hands on a 3 years old Raider bow and it's still going strong.

[@justinhoffman2236]

Well done! I love the history information you added to this review!

[@gordonallison1055]

Thorough as always Armin. Very nice bow indeed. I'd like a head to head with this and an equivalent Raider, comparison of bows nearly a millennium apart

[@magyararcher7478]

What a historical beauty! 🔥

[@davidlargen6945]

Very nice looking bow. I like the performance of this one. Would be nice addition to my collection of shooters

[@gfreeman9843]

Nice bow.. quiet too? That's something I like about archery,its quiet and meditative and doesn't freak out the neighbors like gunshots do.even though lm in the countryside, gunshots are kinda hostile sounding.

[@DrapNa]

"let me show you its features" aka JoergSprave did i catch that right? :)

[@ArminHirmer]

hehe yes

[@rucuscoetzee4895]

haha, I thought the fireworks were sound effects :-) Very nice bow !!

[@totoabicyclette7100]

I really like your no-nonesense - straight to the point way of reviewing bows and other equipment. speaking of other equipment, have you ever tested a Cosmicbow? the only bow you can use in the middle of a crowd without any problem ? ;)

[@ArminHirmer]

thanks. hahaha cosmicbow? show me

[@totoabicyclette7100]

@@ArminHirmer just look it up on youtube. I don't want to spoil the surprise. this bow apparently comes from Africa, and has been modified by a French guy. In France, some call it a 'bow in mouth'.

[@donsimons9810]

Nice. I guess this info is available online so don’t worry about it if it’s a long answer, but what are the benefits of Korean vs Hungarian bows?

[@ArminHirmer]

two very different designs. in general I think the Hungarian is better able to shoot heavy arrows, the performance of the korean comes through a long bending section. hard to say for me

[@TheKillohr]

Awesome bow and nice shooting :) ! I hate to ask but where do I get the thumb glove you are using? U say something like very ,ferti archery and I couldn't find them ( just found them from the U.S) Or do you know a place in eu who sells them online? Besten Grüße richi ;)

[@ArminHirmer]

Freddie Archery, but there are some online shops in EU that sell them. Korean Thumb Glove or so

[@TheKillohr]

@@ArminHirmer Vielen Dank! Mit ktb glove findet man es noch leichter :)

[@ArminHirmer]

@@TheKillohr haha stimmt fiel mir grad nicht ein

[@SifuSteve7]

Have you found out where to purchase the glove? I can't find it and the freddie archery website is deactivated

[@sh4969]

There's a new bow company called ShatterProof Archery in middle of learning Archery at moment.

[@rogersfc]

"Let me shou its features! Hahahaha" nice reference

[@ericalbert6954]

Magnifique, merci beaucoup l'Ami !

[@Jaygee488]

"Let me show you its features!" 🤣🤣

[@GunnerRDS]

Different bows, but do you prefer this or the Kheshig Mongol from Alibow? I have the latter but considering getting something new for some variety! Is it comparable in terms of smoothness and accuracy?

[@ArminHirmer]

Kheshig draws longer and I cant compare them, two different beasts :)

[@GunnerRDS]

@@ArminHirmer Haha well if you were forced to pick one for your desert island bow, which would you choose?

[@ArminHirmer]

@@GunnerRDS I will leave the island instead and keep both :D

[@АндрейСеменов-ъ5с9ж]

Интересное видео и красивый лук.

[@kolosihasz8260]

Might I make a humble suggestion : if you will ever be in the position of getting a bow from Nagy Imre, chose the avar bow. I have mine for a year now and I have noting to complain about it.

[@ArminHirmer]

We had a few of him already here, great bows for the price

[@tamaspapai4921]

I bought my first Grozer bow 20 years ago, that was a traditional Hungarian Middle Age design (like mongol), but I sold it and bought a TRH later. For me Grozer is the best Hungarian bow maker, I like his bows.

[@petitpanierdosier3206]

Joerg is coming?!

[@ArminHirmer]

Maybe :)

[@ggerely]

What has happened with the beautifully green grass there Armin? Or I just forgot how Malta turns into kind of Nevada desert during summer?

[@ArminHirmer]

Yep summers are hot and dry here

[@ggerely]

@@ArminHirmer ^^^Armin, this isn't you? Gregory ^^^

[@jareth7456]

We use to tape M-80's and pipe bombs to arrows when I was a kid

[@Leverguns50]

That’s a really beautiful bow, I really like the way it looks, what’s your opinion on how well it shoots?

[@ArminHirmer]

takes a bit to get used to, but shoots really nice

[@Leverguns50]

@@ArminHirmer thank you

[@AceChevChelios]

Hallo dass sieht nice aus , Wie machst du das zielen auf der rechten Seite ?

[@ArminHirmer]

nicht zielen ;) Instinkt und intuition

[@17yearoldwarbowarcher]

i love when u swear

[@mnnaqs]

No speed test ? Ah just seen it 169 fps ok not from the fastest bows

[@ArminHirmer]

Did you watch the whole video? ;)

[@simonfekete9020]

Have you ever tried the bertamanufacture's bow?

[@ArminHirmer]

nope

[@beccawi]

26:53 I need that watch, it apparently contains transporter technology.

[@roderickballance6960]

You can NEVER have too many Hungarian Bow.

[@jedgurley]

I would find a different way to string those bows,, if i have to strain that badly folding over at my age, it might end badly. I dunno. Im in good shape but still . Lol

[@jedgurley]

I have a mildly high blood pressure. I'm working on it

[@AlfaRevoluzione]

Griffin = Greiff (Vogel) = Gallien = Gallo = Gallizia.... :D Grüsse Armin (Portugal = Port a Gall = Türe zu Gallien (Griffindoor) Herr der Ringe.

[@ArminHirmer]

sehr ergreifend :D

[@AlfaRevoluzione]

@@ArminHirmer Genial kombiniert

[@EnFyr]

Being half Hungarian I've always loved mongolian or hungarian bows. The design is just beautiful. But i would guess that design originated from China. Does anybody know for a fact? On that 20m target your arrows looked way too light tho.

[@carlc.4714]

Guys (and girls): shoot more arrows and less fireworks! 👍

[@dasMoto]

Tapfer war er. Gelassenheit ist die Kunst sehr langsam wütend zu werden. 😉

[@ryuhadouken2722]

Reviews bows and arrows and next door someone’s doing review of gun fire. Perfect combination of cowboys and Indians.

[@cuernocabra9862]

Ahh, looks like Mexico. Biutiful,,

[@richardquick826]

lol you are very cool

[@sandorzoltangergely]

Sorry