This Fault DEFEATED Multiple Electricians! Can We Fix It?

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Artisan Electrics

Artisan Electrics

Күн бұрын

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@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
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@RWBHere
@RWBHere 28 күн бұрын
Jordan, invest in a couple of borescopes; one for you and one for your mate. They don't cost much and can make life much easier. Your first customer will pay for the scopes.
@Dailymailnewz
@Dailymailnewz 26 күн бұрын
When you pass 500 volt DC through it because they are somehow connected, they are making the light live, as you said. The neutral and CPC are connected. I have worked in so many buildings that it is the third building where I found all live connected together, all Blue or neutrals and emergency lines connected together. In this case, an amazing amigo has even added CPC to it because he thought it was unfair to leave cpc lonely, ha ha ha.
@donh6416
@donh6416 26 күн бұрын
For us blokes in the colonies define CPC & RDC.
@PizzaMan-ItsaRomethingeveryday
@PizzaMan-ItsaRomethingeveryday 25 күн бұрын
Its strange how different wiring is there compared to the US
@darrengould4668
@darrengould4668 12 күн бұрын
@@donh6416cpc circuit protective conductor RCD is residual Current device
@louiesfishing4177
@louiesfishing4177 Ай бұрын
the other guy literally found the fault at the start and you dragged it out lol
@rn5666
@rn5666 Ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t believe 2 electricians couldn’t find this more like the homeowner messed it up and artisan thought lovely we will make a video out of this
@Causinghoodlumhavoc
@Causinghoodlumhavoc Ай бұрын
​@@rn5666 100% he stages all these for his ego
@cassiomx88
@cassiomx88 Ай бұрын
@@rn5666 For sure! And a particularly terrible one at that!! That's a 10 minute one man job IMO. The other guy is an adult learner I assume
@Lou-Lou.
@Lou-Lou. Ай бұрын
​@Causinghoodlumhavoc why bother watching if you have that opinion?
@TrustMe8ro
@TrustMe8ro Ай бұрын
I know right, easiest fault to find ever! LMFAO
@chrissharpe2106
@chrissharpe2106 Ай бұрын
Actually painful to watch the lad find the fault and then watch his boss mess about taking lights down rather than than just fixing what he’s found.
@roypublic3269
@roypublic3269 28 күн бұрын
Half of the Journey is telling the story. The "Lad" learned and, so did we...
@damustermann
@damustermann 28 күн бұрын
@@roypublic3269 And the costumer pays for our enjoyment, so nice of him.
@James-wn1uo
@James-wn1uo 28 күн бұрын
​@roypublic3269 and the customer got hit with a massive bill
@rge24491
@rge24491 27 күн бұрын
Yeah the boss is a shit sparky
@TommyGunBaker
@TommyGunBaker 27 күн бұрын
Yikes 🤣.
@rogergriffiths207
@rogergriffiths207 16 күн бұрын
Top electricians are really good to watch. To know your job inside out is essential and for you to solve something others cannot must give you a great buzz, well done guys.
@Steviegtr52
@Steviegtr52 28 күн бұрын
50 Years as an electrical contractor. 25 Years as contractor to food industry blue chip companies Nestle etc. Obviously lots of fault finding over the years. Single & 3 ph. Now Retired over 13 years now. Great content & logic finding the silly fault. They are usually silly faults.
@olly7673
@olly7673 Ай бұрын
Having noted the wiring was incorrectly terminated above the cupboard I am a little lost why you didn't put that right before conducting any IR testing.
@leonkernan
@leonkernan Ай бұрын
Because that makes for a KZbin short, not a full video.
@darrengould4668
@darrengould4668 Ай бұрын
Looks like it was all set up to promote unlite torch to be honest . How did the homeowner know what a switch wire is ?
@mitchellwilliams2060
@mitchellwilliams2060 Ай бұрын
bc when things are that messed up its usually a good idea to check everything is safe and not just the first thing you see
@mitchellwilliams2060
@mitchellwilliams2060 Ай бұрын
@@darrengould4668 well when there is a loose wire not connected to the back of a lightswitch genius then it probably belongs to the switch
@davidhamm5626
@davidhamm5626 Ай бұрын
@@mitchellwilliams2060 Only if there is a place for the wire.
@paulperry968
@paulperry968 26 күн бұрын
Old Aussie spark here. You stumped me with CPC. We do it easy and just call it the earth!!!
@GrahamTurnbull-tg1hk
@GrahamTurnbull-tg1hk 26 күн бұрын
Used to be the same here for many years🤦‍♂️
@eugenepolan1750
@eugenepolan1750 25 күн бұрын
@@GrahamTurnbull-tg1hk What will they call it when they wire up some buildings on the Moon or Mars?
@cassiomx88
@cassiomx88 16 күн бұрын
Day to day nearly all sparks in UK just call it the earth as well! If you want to be fancy then its the Circuit Protective Conductor - CPC.
@tiggy2756
@tiggy2756 13 күн бұрын
But CPC sounds far more technical than plain old earth !!! they got to bling it up it justifies the bill
@tahseenashfaq
@tahseenashfaq 9 күн бұрын
They did find the fault at the beginning, but I think they wanted to explain the in and outs of fault finding really. So thanks for that 👏🏼
@oldfarmer4700
@oldfarmer4700 8 күн бұрын
I started with house wiring and then moved on to industrial electrical, took a interest in industrial control installation and repair, did a lot of single loop and DDC. All the things I did was in the US and our terminology is way different than where ever your at. I really didn’t understand a lot of what you were talking about but found it very interesting.
@awesomechapro
@awesomechapro Ай бұрын
The reason the lights blink when you use the insulation tester, is that the input capacitors inside the led driver are charging up until the circuit kicks into action and lights the leds. This then discharges the capacitors and the cycle repeats.
@sirajshah5003
@sirajshah5003 Ай бұрын
Or because the neutral and cpc were reversed, as the supply cpc was connected to the lights neutral in the connection unit
@pjeaton58
@pjeaton58 Ай бұрын
The insulation tester is like a megger tester giving 500volts which can destroy an LED lamp - they should disconnect them first as with any delicate electronics - or buy the customer a replacement if it is F***ed up !
@awesomechapro
@awesomechapro Ай бұрын
@@pjeaton58 it probably won’t actually damage them as the rate the insulation tester charges the capacitors is slower than the rate that the get discharged when the lights blink
@jackreid7
@jackreid7 28 күн бұрын
@@pjeaton58he was using 250V DC IR
@Critter145
@Critter145 26 күн бұрын
This is fascinating. Watching people who actually know their field problem solve is super interesting.
@alvina69
@alvina69 Ай бұрын
Tom found the fault after 6 minutes… Why would you IR test after that with the CPC and neutral still connected together???
@ricvandervyver2461
@ricvandervyver2461 27 күн бұрын
Just to waste our time to?
@ImtiazMohammad911-q5y
@ImtiazMohammad911-q5y 20 күн бұрын
He was stating the obvious
@michaelyoung394
@michaelyoung394 12 күн бұрын
Job well done, and to make sure all safety devices are working properly!
@JamesScholesUK
@JamesScholesUK Ай бұрын
14:45 "how are you supposed to access these connections?" That top trim is held on with a couple of screws in the corners of the cupboard below. Undo those and give yourself an extra 20mm to work with.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Oooh nice tip 👍
@aadd3538
@aadd3538 Ай бұрын
You must be a kitchen fitter. All accessories and consumer units must be fully accessable. The operative word is " Fully" not partially. The other horrible electrical work kichen fitter do is fit sockets inside cabinets.
@JamesScholesUK
@JamesScholesUK Ай бұрын
@aadd3538 hahahaha I'm just a homeowner with a screwdriver and a pair of eyes mate 😄
@thetruthwillwinoneday
@thetruthwillwinoneday Ай бұрын
Please tell us you didn’t leave those exposed terminals above the kitchen units.
@rztrzt
@rztrzt 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, if some sticks a hand in there it's not gonna end well for them.
@Wiltshire-observer
@Wiltshire-observer Ай бұрын
I fixed a similar fault for a member of my family. Wall lights that would trip the whole house circuit breaker. A professional electrician had condemned the whole house (re-wired within the last twenty years) and said it all needed doing again at a quote of £5K. They couldn’t;t be bothered to fault find it, but I did and found the classic fault of the neutral return from the lighting circuit wired back into the side of the consumer unit that wasn’t on the same side as the ELCB that was being used for the live supply. The imbalance in the lighting supply fired the trip. A £5K bill avoided. I would always question an electricians diagnosis, but only because I’m an electronics engineer and 230V domestic installation is very simple in comparison.
@PrograError
@PrograError 29 күн бұрын
ah... the usual "I'm stumped might as well rip it all and redo, and charge more" BS
@codenamenel
@codenamenel Ай бұрын
erm, did you sort the exposed live parts above the cupboard ? 🤔🤔🤔
@gadgetman36
@gadgetman36 Ай бұрын
There is nothing worse than trades who say they will turn up then don't, and you can't get hold of them. Why don't they just say they don't want the job?! 🤔
@IANHANDS
@IANHANDS Ай бұрын
Lots of worse things . Check yourself before it is too late
@timwild4433
@timwild4433 Ай бұрын
dragged that one out! the fault couldn't have been more on show!
@ronnierobinson1502
@ronnierobinson1502 Ай бұрын
thats just 5k please
@G1ZQCArtwork
@G1ZQCArtwork Ай бұрын
Fault finding: I am now retired, but only a short while ago, I got a phone call from an Electrician friend who used to get me to do his often-time-consuming fault finding. A group of Five caravans were tripping the main box, having got it down to one particular Caravan, the newly ish qualified site Electrician was struggling to find the ever-changing insulation fault. the power would be on, lights would work, but as soon as a Kettle or Toaster was powered, the site box would trip off. I got there and soon instructed them to change the faulty RCD in the hook up for a start which should have detected the leak, and activated. But the ever-changing resistance fault remained, lights would work, but as soon as any bigger load was switched on, off the RCD would go, now only on the hook up box with the new RCD. A little old-fashioned test was to identify in reverse where this insulation problem was, rather than from the consumer unit, I tested from a convenient Kettle base to a socket. Sure enough, ever changing resistance faults across all Three conductors. Isolate the Smoke alarm feed. Caravan worked normally again. I must add that I got him to switch all the MCBs off and put them on one at a time, as soon as the Lights were engaged, (Main power off of course)! the fault appeared on the Live as well as the neutral (trust me here). The fault remained on the neutral to CPC all the time. But came up on the Live too as soon as the circuit was engaged (Warp Nine!). Looked up at the ceiling to see Two odd smoke alarms, One mains and One Battery, pulled off the Battery alarm and there was a hole in the ceiling, shone a torch up to see Three bare wire ends hiding in the damp roof insulation. A maintenance person had replaced a faulty mains alarm with a Battery version, and just shoved the wires up into the roof void. Fizzling about in the damp space just waiting to arc and trip. Had he have isolated the Smoke alarm feed; he may have found it on his own (eventually!). I advised him to make a written report to H&S demanding no Maintenace workers were to do any Electrical work, at least untill they tracked down the culprit.! Never seen it before, and don't expect to come across it again.
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax Ай бұрын
That one is a world's classic 😂 "lets just shove the old wires in there"
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Ай бұрын
You generally find if the IR hunts about randomly, moisture is involved somewhere.
@graememcculloch3455
@graememcculloch3455 27 күн бұрын
I have seen that done in houses, why would you replace a mains powered smoke detector for a battery?
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 27 күн бұрын
@@graememcculloch3455 Because battery ones are a quid.
@G1ZQCArtwork
@G1ZQCArtwork 27 күн бұрын
They keep battery ones in stock for a quick fix. Mains ones are only fitted in the factory. It's very worrying how dumb folks are allowed to get involved.
@nickmedcalf9223
@nickmedcalf9223 Ай бұрын
What an wholesome and friendly customer !
@marlondaniels3114
@marlondaniels3114 Ай бұрын
Sounds South African. We're a fantastic bunch...
@markkennard861
@markkennard861 Ай бұрын
He's getting paid .. :)
@markc1844
@markc1844 Ай бұрын
@@marlondaniels3114 I had a South African customer for years, he used to walk around with a parrot on his shoulder! Always had great home cooked snacks and treats. Great family and great friends in the end, very sadly they went back to South Africa to look after sick relatives, we are still in touch and I hope they come back one day.
@flynnnaude700
@flynnnaude700 Ай бұрын
Yh, hes a saffa, that's why
@cassiomx88
@cassiomx88 16 күн бұрын
@@markkennard861 I think you are correct! If not, he's been conned by this daft performance. I reckon there probably never was a fault and the whole thing is complete staged BS.
@chucknorris1988
@chucknorris1988 Ай бұрын
Excellent another video of Jordan making a smug meal out of what should be a simple and quick fault fix
@makermatthew
@makermatthew Ай бұрын
I hope you tidied the wiring above the cupboards it looked shocking!
@HARRYTUTTLE-i5y
@HARRYTUTTLE-i5y 25 күн бұрын
Ha ha it look shocking 😄
@measth
@measth Ай бұрын
Dragging a job out there. Fault was found within minutes.
@FoxDren
@FoxDren Ай бұрын
I think the issue was that 2 people had already looked into the issue so they assumed it couldn't just be something so simple and obvious.
@frederikmoeller88
@frederikmoeller88 Ай бұрын
I agree. Testing with a known working light woudave found it in minutes.
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos Ай бұрын
A lot of testing was done to make sure the cabling had no other faults and that everything was safe. Because 2 other tradies had checked it and not been able to fix it, it did seem too simple just being a swapped CPC and Neutral. The testing Jordan did in this video was maybe a bit overkill, but at the same time was warranted given the history. Also, I am sure Jordan did do extra given he was allowed to film, but then maybe not. He is always very thorough on his jobs ,especailly ones where the fault has not appeared simple, even though this one turned out to be simple. I am sure the customer was not complaining to ensure it was totally safe. I likely would have done all the additional testing to ensure it was safe for the customer given the fault history
@hsvhel
@hsvhel Ай бұрын
HIndsight is easy, walking into it with the history "reported" it would be prudent to follow some basic checks yourself rather than just what has maybe been done in the past.
@jessejackson4690
@jessejackson4690 29 күн бұрын
Never fault find based on what others say they have done
@Nitihene
@Nitihene 28 күн бұрын
Awesome video. Had similar issue with garage light where in the wall socket a neutral and live wire were connected wrong way around.
@DTELEC
@DTELEC Ай бұрын
Your sparks found the issue after 2 minutes so why was you still fannying around dropping lights etc
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
I love fannying about
@goodshoes07
@goodshoes07 Ай бұрын
How did you make that into a video 😂 could have sorted that on my own in 5 minutes
@aidie26
@aidie26 Ай бұрын
Who found the fault Jordan? when you said we, it was actually Tom who spotted it. So Tom should have the glory of the day.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Definitely 🙌
@etiennelouw9244
@etiennelouw9244 6 күн бұрын
I had to teach a lady electrician fault finding long time ago in a factory, she qualified, brand new sparky, beautiful one at that. She was sent to fix a machine and after a hour the foreman sent me to go have a look. As she was short, the first thing I did was check a high up proximity switch and that was it, machine was fixed. When you work with short people always start at the high stuff.
@verboeq
@verboeq 28 күн бұрын
How do you guys go in the UK using the light blue neutral as an active without needing to sleeve it?
@666666graham
@666666graham Ай бұрын
Well found, what did you do to make those connections above the units safe?
@rodd8170
@rodd8170 Ай бұрын
They are wall connection plates that had been removed from the wall by previous electrician. So all they had to do was refit them into wall.
@ShouldersMoondog549
@ShouldersMoondog549 Ай бұрын
Nice troubleshooting!! Yes some problems can be really simple!! Enjoyed the video and have subscribed! Being a retired electrician here in the states, I find the wiring methods "across the pond" interesting. Like to learn more!!
@steveshanyaski5076
@steveshanyaski5076 Ай бұрын
The guy finishes his life story at 1:50. 😂
@EastGatesheadIndieRock
@EastGatesheadIndieRock Ай бұрын
You have to wonder what sort of plum would miss the neutral in the earth terminal. They're different colours for a reason..
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
It is shocking that somehow, TWO electricians missed this...
@mitchmix999
@mitchmix999 Ай бұрын
@@artisanelectrics Makes you wonder what other gaffs those 2 electricians are making. Good job finding the fault though, very rewarding.
@johnmccallum9106
@johnmccallum9106 Ай бұрын
That kitchen job looked like butchery. Putting joins in tight, hard to access places is just causing trouble for the next person who needs to work on it. Hidden hard to find junction boxes are in my opinion, an abomination. If my father had seen something like that, he would have considered rewiring the whole light circuit on the reasoning that the idiot who originally did it could not be trusted not to have done something worse. I saw him tell an owner of a house about something comparable to this once that he found, and they had him check the wiring of the whole house. Luckily the customer already planned to have the house rewired as the cables were in poor condition due to age of the house.
@cronocide
@cronocide Ай бұрын
Are you kidding? I guessed that fault at 0:25 and didn't bother watching the rest of the vid. Edit: but that's cos I'm a gasman the top of the trades.👍
@terrytrapp6036
@terrytrapp6036 Ай бұрын
​@@artisanelectrics you missed It until the other lad gave you a nudge to look at the picture again.........
@montegosmith8259
@montegosmith8259 7 күн бұрын
Well done guys
@tonywoodssnr1400
@tonywoodssnr1400 28 күн бұрын
Top guys, great to see tradesman knowing their job, great job and well done
@dalemr2
@dalemr2 Ай бұрын
Rumour has it the customers in talks to remortgage the house so he can pay the artisan bill.
@aadd3538
@aadd3538 Ай бұрын
£250 is right
@gavbag1234
@gavbag1234 Ай бұрын
Nice of claudio to wear that lavelier mic when he answered the door.
@NealMcQuade
@NealMcQuade 29 күн бұрын
@@gavbag1234 and to cover his door number before Jordan turned up to film.
@gavbag1234
@gavbag1234 15 күн бұрын
@@NealMcQuade 😂😂 Makes the fault finding that bit harder. You don't even know the fault's address.
@cadebrown4067
@cadebrown4067 Ай бұрын
Get yourself a ferret camera !! Best thing I ever bought, you can attach it to your rods too. Makes it easier to inspect and what not
@herensugue
@herensugue Ай бұрын
The flickering lights at 10:00 could be from the built in capacitor discharging in every led lamp, since you inject some charge during testing. Cycling through it's RC-time on fixed intervals, hence flickering.
@michaelmoolman9419
@michaelmoolman9419 27 күн бұрын
Hello to my fellow South African living in the uk 😊
@Benmiles__
@Benmiles__ Ай бұрын
Justifying that hourly rate 😂 why wouldn’t fixing that neutral connection be the first thing you do? In and out in 30 mins
@zapatto51
@zapatto51 28 күн бұрын
Hello from France. Next tool : endoscope ? Very usefull in this situation. Waiting for the next video. Best regards.
@evanfpv
@evanfpv Ай бұрын
Easy fault find, looks like you made a meal out of that one 😂
@justmeEnglandUK
@justmeEnglandUK Ай бұрын
When ripping out a kitchen a few years ago we turned everything off except the cooker socket for power when working and stated to pull apart the kitchen then we came across some bell wire fitted to the underside of the kitchen units with drawing pins through the center of the wire thinking it was obsolete pulling the units away it went bang sparking eventually it blew the wire cooker fuse . After some digging in the plaster we followed the bell wire to just above the cooker point to find the bell wire had been wrapped and twisted around the cooker cable the insulation had been stripping off and no tape just plastered into the wall . The owner said the he had the lights under the cupboard taken off a few year before and they had left the bell wire in just tucked behind the units . I think it was the owner who had been tinkering and fitted the 240v 45amp cable to bell wire .
@gregarrell6132
@gregarrell6132 27 күн бұрын
Well done. Nice thorough fault finding.
@ppdan
@ppdan 28 күн бұрын
4:06 Is this normal in the UK to leave those rail exposed like that? Here we have to cut them to size, so whenever you add another unti you have to replace the rail since it's now to short. Another option would be to fit the extra units and mark them as "reserve" for future expansion but that is rarely done for several reasons one being cost.
@Chris-hy6jy
@Chris-hy6jy Ай бұрын
"some people call it an earth". You mean everyone, and rightly so.
@ChooseLife.YourLife
@ChooseLife.YourLife Ай бұрын
You only call it an "earth" if your firmly grounded in reality
@kpdvw
@kpdvw 21 күн бұрын
in the UK a CPC is that the same as a Ground wire in the USA?
@cassiomx88
@cassiomx88 16 күн бұрын
Yes. Generally known and 'Earth' but if you want to be over technical then CPC - Circuit Protective Conductor
@mr_mcgoo2632
@mr_mcgoo2632 Ай бұрын
It was interesting to see you use a megger for house wiring as I have never seen one used in residential before in the usa. We use meggers in aviation. Great find.
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas Ай бұрын
Well that is one good thing about the USA, code requires all junction boxes to be accessible and can not be hidden. Now that doesn't say it doesn't happen, but at least if it was wired by a reliable electrician and keep up to code there wouldn't be any. 👍🤠
@nelster70
@nelster70 Ай бұрын
BS7671 says exactly the same thing, but your average UK "sparkies" are useless. They just don't know it...
@trevorpreston6351
@trevorpreston6351 13 күн бұрын
Correct bs 7671 states all JBs are accessible not buried in the wall but it was obvious where the fault was but you just milked it to charge more
@markukblackmore
@markukblackmore Ай бұрын
Smacks forehead! Taking the bulb up out to make it way easier to pull down the downlight. Wow. Worth the price of admission alone 😜
@dwaynes5983
@dwaynes5983 28 күн бұрын
Great education to learn from. Just went to customer home for a no ground situation. Hakf house grounded other half no ground. Two hiurse of troubleshooting. Two gfci are bad and no ground ran to finished basement.
@geoepi321975
@geoepi321975 27 күн бұрын
Hi is it a fault if neutral and ground bonding connected in multiple points?
@jamieo6642
@jamieo6642 Ай бұрын
Get yourself a tone tester . Makes finding cable routes and junction boxes super easy
@LeighWinspear
@LeighWinspear Ай бұрын
interesting. Which model do you recommend and is there a video explanation for learning, pre purchase?
@ForTheBirbs
@ForTheBirbs Ай бұрын
The irony of it being "too simple".... kitchen fitter / builder "special". Cheers
@Rs500ybd
@Rs500ybd Ай бұрын
easy overlooked in tight constraints i do love a tight area .. Shhhhh
@andy3232
@andy3232 Ай бұрын
Finds neutral and earth tied together and spends half a year fsult finding after it! 😂😂
@evanfpv
@evanfpv Ай бұрын
Madness 😂
@samuelseviour8944
@samuelseviour8944 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, worth testing even though I knew I was that when you shown it, kitchen fitters do make our lives exciting
@slideybackfast
@slideybackfast Ай бұрын
Fault finding is my life, I love a good fault!!! Top job, cannot believe it was so simple!!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
You and me both!
@clivehamilton-davies7201
@clivehamilton-davies7201 24 күн бұрын
Did you change the naff coonection plate Justin?
@JorgeAMG187
@JorgeAMG187 Ай бұрын
10 grand fault finding
@ADF-js9vi
@ADF-js9vi Ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't have a borescope to look up into the ceiling void. 🤨
@michaelsherwin5554
@michaelsherwin5554 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant tradesmen.
@BRIAN-mr5ue
@BRIAN-mr5ue 25 күн бұрын
I stumbled across your content..Enjoyed video so I've subscribed and look forward to having a look through playlist 👍.. Thanks
@KB-jy5hr
@KB-jy5hr 23 күн бұрын
17:15 Extra customer service? You mean so you can charge him to replace any faulty RCDs or out-of-date smoke alarms...
@jimuraypearson
@jimuraypearson 28 күн бұрын
how would you do on a ship of captain ask you to fix autopilot as gyro has ship goin in circles or nav light flikerin or main engine start compressor wont start ?? thats what i do
@bigchuck3189
@bigchuck3189 26 күн бұрын
I'm an American Electrician who likes watching your videos because I'm addicted to troubleshooting and it's fascinating to me that Europe doesnt bond neutral and earth ground together at the first means of disconnect like we do in America.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 26 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s a confusing world 😂
@evzenhedvabny6259
@evzenhedvabny6259 25 күн бұрын
They do, sometimes . It is called P.M.E or TNC-S . PEN(ground and neutral combined) splits to PE and N somewhere in main fuse head before the meter. So it is kind of the same thing.
@JamesKeuPita
@JamesKeuPita 27 күн бұрын
I'm from New Zealand brother gotta say impressive
@TheofficialJustinWhite
@TheofficialJustinWhite 4 күн бұрын
Somewhere you have a switched neutral and ground wire. I've had this issue before with a builder who thought they knew how to do electrical work. Just a thought
@reapsgrimley
@reapsgrimley 7 күн бұрын
maybe check for a switch leg... is it hooked up to a switch, is the neutrals hoooked up, is there one in the wall??
@totherarf
@totherarf Ай бұрын
I started of life as a Norweb apprentice back in '77 and left contracting for the main business after 15 years. I do like to have a good fault finding video .... if only to remind myself what a good move I made going into E.N.W. I retired this year but was fault finding on a larger scale (underground mains faults) ...... trust me some of those can get scary ..... and weird! What has got me thinking is that someone actually wired it up not working ..... and left it like that! Not good!
@CH-electrical
@CH-electrical 28 күн бұрын
Nice one Jordan! 👍🏽
@cockroach9283
@cockroach9283 Ай бұрын
No neutral with live (active) present . Thats why they flicker (caps inside the LED charge up then dump the power, thats when it flashes). Had tons of these before but it will be the LED itself. Floodlights loves doing this asspecially in a area that gets a lot of power dips or brownouts to be technical.
@andreasweber4499
@andreasweber4499 13 күн бұрын
At 5:55 you already discovered, that PE (protective earth in germany) is connected to neutral which is obviously the reason why the RCD drips (current on "line" gets split to neutral and PE -> RCD detects the difference). I don't understand why you didn't remove the connection at this point earlier...
@lewistempleman9752
@lewistempleman9752 Ай бұрын
Agree with other comments, simple fault found immediately, no need for two of you fault finding and subsequent testing, made a meal out of a 5 minute call out, and didn't even show any resolution of the dangerously exposed connections found above units
@spelectricalservltd5959
@spelectricalservltd5959 Ай бұрын
Best video you have posted in months and months. Everyday electrics and no solar. Might re-subscribe to the channel if you post more of this content…
@dogmangreengrass736
@dogmangreengrass736 Ай бұрын
which areas do you cover ? please
@mountainsandsky
@mountainsandsky 28 күн бұрын
Just found your channel and love it :O) But jeez things have moved on a bit since I was last on the tools lol i was old school working to the 15th edition regs!
@davidblundell5429
@davidblundell5429 Ай бұрын
Great video and channel. 10 minute job really. How much would you charge for this? Around £80 in my area.
@diverbob8
@diverbob8 28 күн бұрын
As an electrical troubleshooter with 65 years experience, in a situation like this, I would do as you did for about 5 -10 minutes. At that point, if have not found TWO clues clearly pointing to ONE Fault, I would then unwire EVERYTHING involved. I carry a 100 foot spool of wire with alligator clips on both ends so that I can unroll as necessary to form a long extension for one side of my ohm meter / continuity tester. I then map the entire pile and then draw the required schematic, color code with tape as necessary and then rewire the entire circuit. Thus when I leave, there is NO CHANCE of someone else following me around finding dumb stunts as you did. On average, this is faster than pawing through a big mess caused who knows how many people previously. My most common fault occurs when a DIY guy tries to change a three way light switch. Here in the states, the three way switches have two connections on one side and one on the other. About 40 years ago, the convention as to where the common was located became different. That led to the circuits being rewired so that it looked the same but they would not work. I have had at least 200 of these jobs in old buildings where the wire colors were not clear. That is why I am quick to unwire and ring everything out with the spool of wire and my ohm meter. FYI...Depending on the instrument, using an insulation tester that can supply 1000 to 15000 volts must not be used anywhere that low voltage devices can be present. They are for motor winding, etc. or in a residential situation prior to connecting loads that could be damaged. Note: motors are tested at twice the rated voltage since modern VFDs provide up to twice the rated motor voltage in normal operation.
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 Ай бұрын
I would more likely think it's not the electrician could not fix. I have found a lot of customers don't explain things properly. Years ago, we had a customer keep coming back complaining. We finally realised what he wanted. Didn't want fixed he wanted removed. All he ever said prior was " it's not right "
@danieldare2640
@danieldare2640 14 күн бұрын
CPC is the Earth connection correct The earth wire?
@gregf9160
@gregf9160 28 күн бұрын
Tom's really nice and seems smart.
@J.T.Solutions
@J.T.Solutions 26 күн бұрын
Is it because of the Transformer that makes the small amount of Volts from the meter to make some light at least?
@chad0x
@chad0x 28 күн бұрын
His mage worked it out in 2s flat. Worth checking the rest, though. Could be any number of other problems. Sorting out the box behind the switch, fitting th grommet etc. all worthwile.
@hughwilson4911
@hughwilson4911 Ай бұрын
Can I ask what is wrong with BG consumer units?
@smartl4d
@smartl4d 29 күн бұрын
Old split boards are shite. Newer boards have improved loads
@diskdrive123
@diskdrive123 Ай бұрын
I don't believe for a second that they didn't instantly fix that obvious fault and test it, than realized they didn't have enough content for a video... Only difference is they aren't trying to charge the guy for there time.
@kurtlewis8724
@kurtlewis8724 Ай бұрын
I dont get why you was confused that the lights were flickering when you put voltage down line and cpc.. after the guy said that they had connected the neutral and cpc together in the connection plate? He found the fault within 1 minute haha
@smartl4d
@smartl4d 29 күн бұрын
Embarrassing
@williammartinculleton5875
@williammartinculleton5875 Ай бұрын
Should have sent for Nick Bundy, he would have found the fault on his own in half the time & far less expensive 👏
@heladas90
@heladas90 Ай бұрын
Or a normal none youtube electrician far cheaper
@NoName-in9hd
@NoName-in9hd Ай бұрын
Tom found the fault instantly in fairness but Jordan dragged it out for the video
@Ted_E_Bear
@Ted_E_Bear Ай бұрын
Please more fault finding videos !
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@craigmcdonald4988
@craigmcdonald4988 Ай бұрын
Prob best just wrapping this channel up, it's hard watching these days
@Rs500ybd
@Rs500ybd Ай бұрын
Nice Megger. you want a borescope kit .I am Professional Rescue mechanic i use the atex right angle from Unilite Great tools .
@Jason-zh7wo
@Jason-zh7wo Ай бұрын
Great job guys!
@thecasualengineer99
@thecasualengineer99 27 күн бұрын
i'd agree that you went further as once you see one issue you think "are there any others?"
@stevenjohnson6082
@stevenjohnson6082 Ай бұрын
were do you get the shoe covers from
@supersparks9466
@supersparks9466 Ай бұрын
No cpc to the metal switch plate, missed that one jordon
@theCybershot123
@theCybershot123 Ай бұрын
Another Rock Star🤔
@P2DAPIPE
@P2DAPIPE Ай бұрын
😂 classic, blame the builder . The guy is standing in front of you
@amfs987
@amfs987 26 күн бұрын
the lights should be flickering during the insulated test is because your creating a "path to neutral" allowing the caps to charge enough to trigger discharge
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz Ай бұрын
8:36 Right. So what we're going to is take them down one by one....as opposed to taking them all out and then getting 4 more guys on site so we can look at all 6 simultaneously cause that would look like we're taking the p155. Tom's guessing its this one. We love to play little guessing games on days like this. My favourite is how high will the final bill be. We've done a risk assessment and decided its much better for revenue if we spend as long as possible talking about downlights rather than fixing the dodgy neutral. Then I'll propose a 40k rewire and a 55k solar solution for the undercupboard lights. A 25kWh battery system should run the undercupboard lights for 6m, but that'll be another 37.5k. All Plus VAT. I love my Artisan job. XxXx
@cassiomx88
@cassiomx88 Ай бұрын
hahahaha........could really do with a 20kva generator install as well
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
Nearly KILLED by a CRAZY fault! What on earth is going on? 💀
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