Artist 16 Pen Display 2nd Gen Review

Artist 16 Pen Display 2nd Gen Review Cheap but professional?
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[@angrymikko]

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[@dillonferreira3529]

I love your transparency on the matter, before I bought my first tablet I also tried to do a lot of reseach but noticed that every review was sponsored and nothing negative was ever said about the product, so all I could do was listen to the objective facts of the product like size and screen texture. P.S. Also I really love your art please pray that I can draw like you one day ;p

[@angrymikko]

Prayers aren’t necessary nor helpful in that matter. Just practice and I’m sure you’ll get there. I know you won’t paint like me when you get there and that’s great for all of us because only you can do the art that you do.

[@Xiran]

I'm barely 3 minutes into the video, and I have to say this -- thank you so much for talking about the corruption in hardware review products. I hate how it's spread from Amazon (where I would rely on reviews to decide whether I should buy a product or not) to KZbin. I had literally replaced reading Amazon's reviews, but with paid/sponsored videos, I can't really trust what I see here either. I completely agree with your points and wish we could have more transparency and honesty. P.S., I've been watching your videos for a long time, I love your work so much! Thank you for sharing it, your opinions, voiceovers with us!

[@angrymikko]

After I went past the 10k mark on this channel, a whole new side of content creation suddenly revealed itself to me through these emails. I like the camera I use in my videos. A video that made me choose that one was actually an ad designed to funnel traffic to an affiliate link. Couldn't see it at the time but now I know what to look for. I believe there are a lot of hardware reviewers doing good work here. There's just a LOT of that other stuff too.

[@pfschuyler]

Subscribed to your channel because of the ethical views, honesty about non-display tablets, and emphasis on building the skills. And the obvious respect for capes.

[@varjostin8668]

I love your transparency with the review! To comment on the early drawing tablet / display segment, as someone who used a drawing tablet for about 6 years (Intuos Pro S 2013 version) until the cord of my drawing tablet exploded and i ended up making an upgrade to Huion's Kamvas Pro 12 (which is still making its arrival at the time of writing this comment), I agree that it is own skill compared to drawing on drawing displays which can be easier to get into mostly because of being more similar to drawing on traditional paper. Personally i got used to the drawing tablet i used fast but to master it so i don't have to look at where my pen goes often and my lines not being too wobbly or same-y as i am drawing took about 2 or 3 years, if i recall correctly.

[@alittlebitofelle]

I always enjoy your videos but I really enjoyed seeing you draw in photoshop as well. I have just started using it and find it a bit of a learning curve from working in procreate.

[@angrymikko]

It’s not really meant for digital painting so that’s why some of the features will never be as good as apps that are dedicated for that purpose such as Procreate, Sketchbook or Fresco. There’s also tons of tools that are just for editing because that’s what PS is made for. Learning to edit on PS can be a very useful skill but it’s an uphill battle for painting because other options are better suited for it.

[@EdaliaDayCreative]

Brilliant review. captivating. Loved hearing your thoughts

[@angrymikko]

My pleasure, it was an interesting side challenge to paint in Photoshop after all these years but honestly I don’t miss it. Seems really clunky compared to the apps available on iPad when it comes to painting. Still using it for editing all my paintings but for painting, I think I made the right choice when I stopped using it.

[@SC4RArt]

I love your artwork! Thumbs up 👍 Amazing vid! 🤗🤗🤗

[@angrymikko]

Thank you it was interesting to talk about hardware for once because it’s the one topic I get the most questions about on this channel.

[@almanning9776]

thanks for the very honest review. I am not a pro artist so I think this tablet will be good for me.

[@shaii5526]

Came here for the tablet staying here for the beautiful enviroments you paint

[@angrymikko]

You can take a dip in the water too if you like just be respectful of the frog spirits =)

[@hArtyTruffle]

Love your ethical position too ✨👍🏼❤️

[@mariebunny]

I didn't hear a word you said because I was so mesmerized by the painting 😅 so stunning! But I'm sure your commentary was lovely and honest as usual.

[@angrymikko]

Something about a tablet in a nutshell but thank you for the kind words 🐻💕

[@grannysmithart]

i'm a watercolorist who several years ago wanted to explore digital art; i bought a large screened iMac and Wacom tablet (8"). I agree with Mikko's opinion, it is so awkward to use. I need to watch my hand, so the disconnect really bothers me. So much so, i only use my iPad Pro for digital work, my computer was left behind. (However, i lover the Wacom tablet for general use with my computer, never use a mouse). I also agree with Mikko's comments on product reviews. When you are paid, in any way, there will be an inherent bias. Also, i see folks who buy a product then review it-still a bit of bias there, if you shell out hundreds of $ you want to like the product. The only reviews i take seriously are from people who have a large collection of the product so they can do a comparison.

[@angrymikko]

I would hate someone to give up on art entirely just because they happen to be one of those who have trouble with coordination with an old fashioned tablet. Some have no learning time for it at all but for me it took a long time to feel at least somewhat normal with it. This channel would have tablet reviews from almost every manufacturer at this point if I hadn’t said no to their terms. Sometimes it was because they gave an unrealistic timeline to test a product I’ve never used before but more often than not it was a negotiation for a review that quickly turned into “collaboration” in the tablet company emails. I don’t regret pulling the plug in those situations because if it’s the only way to make money here on KZbin then I don’t want any part in it. I’m lucky to have the awesome members on this channel. It’s because of them that my videos look a lot cleaner these days and they make videos like this one possible because I don’t have to make this for a tablet company.

[@curlyd227]

Thank you Art Dad!!☺️💕

[@darrellpidgeon6440]

Wow. I didn't realize xp pen had a display model! Thanks for the info.

[@angrymikko]

They have several but this is the only one I’ve used so can’t say how it compares to the rest of their products

[@getmuse2279]

Thank you for this review. I have always been curious about what do you think about this tablets. Thank you for your honest opinion. The words "Art dad" made me smile)))

[@angrymikko]

If I had the option I’d curl up with my drawing surface like Samus Aran on the couch. Or use an architect table. (one of those options is cheaper☝️)

[@getmuse2279]

@@angrymikko thank you 💜

[@linkkicksu]

I've been comparing this with the Pro 16 and frankly, the USB-C connection gives it the instant leg-up. The Pro has ever so slightly more vibrant colour and the scroll wheel, but as an amateur hobbyist the colour isn't that much of an issue to me, especially with this being a more entry-level pen display, and the two additional buttons on the Gen 2 can do the same thing as the scroll wheel, just digitally. The frame being plastic rather than metal has no bearing on my decision since I don't draw outside of my home. The Gen 2 wins out handily for me, thanks for helping me come to that decision.

[@angrymikko]

I don’t have any negatives about the build quality. The biggest drawback with this model is the resolution. In UI heavy programs like PS, AI, CSP or anything 3d the screen icons take way too much pf the screen. The jump in price to higher resolutions is considerable though.

[@wombatcube]

They do have the screen stands thankfully for $22 USD currently. They look plastic, though, so no idea if they're actually usable. I really agree with the tablet reviews and much respect for your stance on things regarding that. It's refreshing, honestly. I'm so tired of feeling like the world of reviews has morphed into a world of commercials.

[@TheChameleon2008]

Mikko, you the best bro and i love that you explain how the review works because thats the first thing that came in my head was.... "oh no, paid reviews" :) But at 339 and with the cheapest ipad for 369 is a no brainer.

[@angrymikko]

The cheapest iPads are really good options too. Especially right now the difference between the pro and basic iPads is reduced to just ram power differences. But that choice depends on the situation really. I’d love to do everything on the same device in the future but at least right now I need both of my computers as much as my tablet. If Apple allowed the ipad to work like a display tablet when plugged in it would be so much easier to do stuff like colour editing, 3d or pixel art. Unfortunately I don’t think that’s ever going to happen because they like the closed system that makes people buy their own desktops.

[@Siferiax]

Haha my cintiq pen did turn into a gross mess. Some Soda does clean it off though! So it is no longer gross and sticky. I have an on off relationship with art, but your videos have inspired me to keep trying. I've been using procreate on my ipad for it though, as I love being able to draw wherever. I do want to set up my cintiq again maybe for blender though. I bought that cintiq so long ago now lol. It has so many wires and is in the way quite easily, even though it is a smaller one.

[@angrymikko]

I used to practice sculpting with the bigger tablet but as you said the logistics of reattaching all those cords was just too much. I know some of the latest ones have more mobility but obviously the prices are still what they’ve always been.

[@costin9991]

please help me out! i want to buy an artist 15.6 pro because i set my mind on it for the past 3 years. i really like the way it looks. the price is very similar to this tablet. is this one worth way more than the 15.6 pro, or the differences are small enough to not make a big difference? i dont really like how the new one looks, but if the new one is way better, i supose i will have to pick the new one. P.S. this is my first drawing tablet

[@OneDayKD]

Have you tried or used the xp pen artist pro 16 (2021)? With the scroll wheel? Any thoughts on that one? I’m looking at buying it and would love your opinion.

[@angrymikko]

Haven’t used it.

[@chips6042]

I completely agree with the review corruption. Years ago I bought a graphics tablet because people swore up and down that it was the best one at its price. In 6 months it stopped working. My friend who had a display tablet from the same brand, stopped working in about a year or two. I don't trust that brand anymore, nor KZbinrs who only test out products for a few hours and don't touch them again.

[@juanmanuelgarcia4605]

I have a question for the iPad recording. When I do a drawing on procreate and watch the Time-laps Replay I looks choppy and poor quality. After I send that time-laps video to KZbin it looks pretty bad. I wanted to ask how you make your time-laps drawings look clean?

[@angrymikko]

From the wrench icon go to Canvas>Canvas information>Video Settings and set the quality of your preferred recording. As an additional step you can make sure you use the uncompressed version when downloading it from iCloud. By default it download is compressed so you need to use the tiny arrow next to the downloads and then select “Unmodified Original” In most of my videos I usually don’t use procreate files at all. I just record the entire screen of iPad and those files are really large. All of the overhead come from an external camera.

[@juanmanuelgarcia4605]

@@angrymikko It does slightly work I think I will just have to get use to screen recording on procreate. Thanks for the help. Your drawings are great as always.

[@angrymikko]

The recording of Procreate files is always a good safety net option to have if those 2 of my recording methods fail for whatever reason.

[@kevinbrown1833]

I have this tablet but have no clue how to set it up to draw with. Its basically a second monitor at the moment. Whenever i try to use it the pen controls the other screen

[@henrydrago]

I use an Android tablet for drawing, use Ibis Paint X and I like to draw direct on screen and use gestures do zoom in and out, I always get me thinking if I buy a Ipad to use Procreate or a pen display for my PC but I have no idea what buy, I look for Huion Kamvas 16' 2,5K but I can't see good reviews on KZbin and I'm autistic so I have some difficult to learn something new from KZbin videos and don't know how to improve my arts, I do my best, but I think is not enough. . .

[@angrymikko]

If you already have tools you like there’s no reason to change. Switching tools slows down progress more than anything else.

[@henrydrago]

@@angrymikko my android tablet is getting old and crash using some apps this days, that's why I thinking about a upgrade

[@TheReddeadmovie]

would be nice if they and all other tablet sellers just added a vesa mount to every product

[@lisaspears8974]

Hi so I'd love your opinion because I'm so confused weather I should stick with the huion 13 pro which is not the 2.5k edition that I was gifted for Christmas or if I should send it back for something else in the 250-400 dollar range? I've never done any digital art but I have a massive interest in it. I'm just a regular watercolor painter currently and me trying to learn new tricks had me lon you tube where I stumbled into digital art and these amazing devices however I agree that most reviewers have agendas I myself did it through Amazon for many years just for a bunch of free crap. The only thing I can truthfully say if the products really were crap I just send them back before a writing a good review. But I'm sure there aren't many that would do that. 2 more things u should know is yes I have a good computer and yes I do have a nice android Samsung phone which takes me to part 2 and what has me snooping at a different tablet, is it a good option to own a screen that can work with my android as well??

[@angrymikko]

None of the phone apps are designed for an external stylus so I recommend using it with your PC to avoid unnecessary hassles. Honestly if the Huion one works well then there's absolutely nothing sparkly or special about this one. I really do not recommend investing in expensive gear in the beginning. I recommend spending that time and energy learning the basics. There are plenty of assignments for beginners on my channel that are 100% free and they're the same exercises I give to my concept art students in school. Good luck on your exciting new journey. Don't give up =)

[@grantharper6033]

Hi, would I be correct in thinking you still need a computer running your chosen software to use this tablet?

[@angrymikko]

Yes it’s only an input device. If you need to buy a pc with it I would honestly opt for an iPad instead. But that depends on what you use it for.

[@grantharper6033]

@@angrymikko Thank you🙏. I have an iPad Pro but it’s an early one and needs replacing i was considering other options. I think I will stick with iPad as it is so convenient and user friendly along with Procreate. Thank you for taking the time to reply though my friend.

[@rpradhan500]

Using sketchbook on iPad instead of procreate for now…not sure on benefits to start with procreate as a beginner.. please do let me know if procreate can better support the journey

[@angrymikko]

They’re both really good applications. Personally I think Procreate is easier but if one comes from traditional digital painting applications then Sketchbook is good as well. In the long run the important thing is that you find a way to practice that’s enjoyable for you.

[@Jesusistheonlyway549]

This or Wacom one for a first-time buyer? Thanks

[@Jesusistheonlyway549]

I also have an iPad air and not sure if I need a drawing tablet if I have the air?

[@ttl7526]

@@Jesusistheonlyway549 just get an apple pencil if you already got an ipad air. This type needs to be connected to a pc

[@Jesusistheonlyway549]

@@ttl7526 thank you 😊

[@_pinkangels]

for me idk why but i find it easier to use my non display tablet rather than screen like my iPad Pro:) I guess I just got used to it

[@angrymikko]

An artist once told me it’s weird to have your hand “in the way of the image” while drawing. I thought it was funny but he was serious. Apparently he now uses a display tablet but I guess even that transition can be tough because people get used to anything. Those other tablets aren’t at all bad tools but I also don’t think they’re for everyone.

[@mellowneko9474]

Just wondering if you still use this tablet and if any of the opinions in this video have chaned

[@angrymikko]

I haven't found anything surprising in the way it works after making this review.

[@mellowneko9474]

@@angrymikko ok, ive had some experience with huions tablets screen color becoming yellowish over time.just wanted to make sure nothing of the sort happened for this one..

[@ahmadazam5626]

Art daddy 🤠😂

[@paulkenjopedraza4437]

Does it have an aluminium body or plastic?

[@angrymikko]

It’s completely plastic.

[@hArtyTruffle]

“‘back when Wacom and dinosaurs ruled the earth”… 🤣🤗✨

[@journey2970]

DRAW A PORTRAIT I AM REALLY CURIOS TO UR STYLE!!!!

[@angrymikko]

There are portraits on my ig page and Twitter. Right now I have no plans of making more.

[@artsysparks]

Personally i don't blame people for the monitization of the review because it's how they earn money since it's not easy to be an artist sometimes however i do wish there was more transparency about it but labeling it as corruption seems too far especially if you don't even know why the person resorted to it

[@angrymikko]

As an arttuber I don’t think making money with art is easy for most people. However the reason (as much as I understand I might emphasise with it) why some do it. That doesn’t change the act itself. To give you more context: right after the publication of this video I was emailed to include one of those links in this video by this company. I declined that offer. Based on my own personal experience I don’t think I at all exaggerated just how common this type of messaging from the pr-side is.

[@artsysparks]

@@angrymikko yeah i understand but the issue i had is that it felt like you where putting the blame on people who resort to it rather than the company who practices it and that using the word corruption in regards to the people who make those videos aren't exactly the best way to describe them

[@angrymikko]

The blame is on both. Unethical marketing practices and the creators who betrays their audience trust for money. I’m not likely to have a lot of reviews on this channel because my terms for agreeing to videos like this one are not flexible nor are they for sale.

[@MrArkcen]

I bought a cheap laptop stand for 15 usd and that do the job 👌

[@ABentPaperclip]

my son has the bear at 8:00, which i bought for him while I was visiting copenhagen before the pandemic- he named it 'suspicious bear' lol

[@angrymikko]

I have 2 here :) the other one is a panda giving the same sassy side eye. I still remember that they cost 3€ each. I was so happy that I got so much bear 🐻 🐼 for so little. A true 10/10 purchase /end bear review

[@kirisuma2186]

"they don't even sell those"... wow... someone failed at researching... :-P

[@Artist1974CH]

And if you accidentally drop your iPad pro or Wacom Cintiq on the floor and it breaks, there goes all your money that you wasted. And meanwhile, these popular big companies are laughing all the way to the bank!

[@angrymikko]

If I dropped either/both even just basic home insurance covers that so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Btw I haven’t broken a single tablet, display or otherwise in 20+ years so it’s purely a hypothetical scenario for me personally.

[@Artist1974CH]

​@@angrymikko That's good! I have been reading other artists bad experiences with their display tablets and photographers with their cameras. I have an old model Wacom tablet. It is not a display, but it has been working well for a long time. My pen has been dropped on the floor sometimes and so was my tablet and no breakage what so ever. My tablet is working so well on my Apple IMac computer which it is not a very old computer. I was supposed to get a display tablet on my last year's birthday but still have not decided which brand to get yet. I am trying to shop wisely. I have been watching these KZbin videos and reading articles about these display tablets. When the time comes, I will decide which display tablet I will get. For right now, I will continue to work what I got. You have a good one! :-)

[@romenpheonixx7005]

Why are you so angry Mikko?

[@angrymikko]

So many reasons. Sometimes when I run my shoelaces get undone, when I buy a box of cookies some of them are not intact even though it’s an unopened box. I could go on but we’d be here all day 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@romenpheonixx7005]

Lol…ahhh the laces and the cookies. I truly understand now.