Artist Gets SCAMMED By Vtuber In A Commission...

[@dangitdoodles]

The stolen card thing only makes sense if it was Ayako who stole the card, and not someone stealing from them

[@Starwashere17]

Well that doesn’t make sense because they use it as their twitter pfp

[@oOLareOo]

That would result in a different type of dispute, possibly even write off. The dispute was initiated from Ayako's PayPal account, which means, that the PayPal account owner states the purchase was unauthorized, not the card owner (no matter if Ayako owns it or not) outside of PayPal. And since Ayako is the owner if this account, it sounds malicious dispute.

[@dangitdoodles]

@@Starwashere17 how so? If Ayako stole the card it would make sense that they made the purchase of the chibi with the stolen card, hence them using the art as their pfp. If Ayako’s card was stolen, then them using the art as a pfp wouldn’t make sense because it wouldn’t be Ayako making the purchase

[@dangitdoodles]

@@oOLareOo oh 100%, I do think it was Ayako being malicious, it was more so just a comment relating to the point of it being a stolen card that gets brought up since Ayako uses the art that was commissioned

[@Starwashere17]

@@dangitdoodles ooh

[@VixxyCopeland]

Chargeback aren't just a slip of a finger though. From what I remember, You have to fill out a form to do a chargeback. At the very least, you have to press a confirmation. Even if we ate to say that some how she did this by mistake....Shes still using the art! And the artist is reaching out because of the charge back, a response would ve the bare minimum

[@katliente]

ooo ty for the clarification! I’ve never charged anything back so I didnt know how easy or hard it was to do so :o

[@Crymsie]

Yeah it's so strange how other artists were getting replies but vivi was singled out to not even get a dm back. I hope she gets compensation for her hard work cause daymnn

[@YumikoChan-yl3gf]

yes usually they put / or . after @ to not spam the artist of notifications.

[@xsaku42]

yes but in this case, it's super suspicious

[@YumikoChan-yl3gf]

@@xsaku42 yes that's true

[@fothorso]

I would @ them the first time I post the art, but then put the @/ if i ever post the art again for some reason

[@venomousninetails]

Their card definitely, wasn't stolen. They're using the art. When my card got skimmed, they tried to buy $1,500 tickets from South African airlines in Florida. I don't live in Florida, and I don't fly that airline.

[@katliente]

omg noooo ;-; i hope u were able to get ur money back >

[@venomousninetails]

@@katliente its fine, I already got the card changed. didn't intend for you to worry about me, more so I shared that bit of info to reinforce what people normally do with stolen card info. I got my money back.

[@Phonk_kouhai]

dont forget to make the apology video towards taiga like nuxtaku did after he found out that those screenshots where faked.

[@neondemons]

@@Phonk_kouhai you’d call that a petite, small, short, demure, ect body type. Not shota. Not loli. Both have sexual connotations. It’s also Loli, not Lolita; as Lolita is a clothing style.

[@froggyringu]

@@Phonk_kouhai You don't seem to have done any research at all either. Loli and shota isn't a body type. It's a kink. It's people who prefer kids. Shota (ショタ) is Japanese for a prepubescent boy, and the word is sexual in nature (when used in this context). The same with loli (炉裏). The word comes from Lolita, a book about a man lusting after a little girl. Lolita-kei is a clothing style in which people wear cute Victorian-like dresses.

[@willardbirkin2932]

this is why i stopped using paypal, payal gives all the rights to the buyer an screws over buisnesses. i use stripe, its not perfect but gives the buyer the oppoutunity to fight inncorrect charge backs

[@Mummelade]

It still hasn't been solved, the commissioner/thief just made commenting unavailable for anybody while this was relevant and ignored as if it never happened, and the artist never got paid.

[@musyne5887]

Why was the PayPal customer support being so unprofessional too 😭 This whole situation sucks.

[@devichi4108]

Oh wow, I got a chargeback once for unauthorized usage (supposedly child using parent's card) and showing the design was being used by buyer was enough for Paypal to give back the money. The other people I was working with who also got a chargeback from the same person supposedly did the same, but Paypal did not side with all of them (one out of five got their money back). I guess you just have to hope the Paypal person working on the ticket is actually reading through the case. :CC

[@floofndie8473]

I paid 200 hundred for a commission once but my bank thought it was wierd and did a charge back (paypal is connected to bank) but I fixed it right away. This thing just seems ehhhh bad on the commissioners part.

[@SwagMush]

bruh if you dont wanna pay for a comm, just draw it yourself instead of trynna scam ppl for their hard work

[@katliente]

especially bc that person themselves is an artist too… ;-;

[@misterprickly]

This is why I stopped doing art requests and commissions. Either I get someone treating the request like a commission and demanding a bunch of revisions OR I get a customer that rips me off and either doesn't pay or reverses the payment *while still using it!* Some customers really suck!

[@thxwanderer]

It seems like they definitely did a chargeback so they could have a free new pfp and use that saved money to put towards their new PC. I cannot stand people who do this to hardworking people.

[@Runzi333]

Artists, if they don't pay you tell them if they continue using your work you'll take them to court because that is illegal in most places. Pay up or don't use it.

[@froggycolouring]

People who do that are so disgusting, they’re clearly an artist so why wouldn’t they do an art trade with someone or draw it themselves…

[@stolkeyna]

I really hope it gets resolved soon, because with the current information that we have, it doesn't make any sense.

[@youngdefiant]

Why is it so hard to commission popular artists? is it an ego thing where they only work with popular clients? If so that is such a shitty business practice. In no other community but the vtuber one have I seen this.

[@DizzyAlyx]

One possibility is perhaps they were using a parent or family members card for commissions. This wouldnt be the first time Ive seen a kid using their parents card and getting carried away. Parents generally dont understand how commissions work, and with it being a large size purchase, its possible a parent saw it and went "absolutely not" without looking much into it and knowing what it was for, and that commissioned art isnt that simple and cant just be cancelled on a whim after the fact. Id be surprised if it wasnt something like this as it would be out of character, as theyve previously been a good client.

[@Blueshark8O9]

I sometimes slash the twitter handle (@/...) if the creator has already seen it.

[@K1nla]

Was going to say maybe all their posts/activities on twitter were scheduled so she's been away from socials and they had every notification/sound alerts turned off (I normally have them off due to stress) BUT then I saw she was also doing reposts on her twitter don't think they can be scheduled so she's just ignoring for whatever reason.

[@KiteoHatto]

Sounds like ayako person is a kid who used parent's card to pay for commission and then the parents found out and charged back because vtubing is stupid.

[@K1rz__]

Ayako turned off comments. They are the scammer 100%

[@CatLecu]

totally unrelated but im amazed on how vibrant and pretty your hair color is , like wow 100/10

[@tanya__lunar]

Vivixstar is one of the most talented and lovely artists online. They also stream so check them out if you can!

[@foxarror]

Why do these people exist

[@Felinasproductions]

People like that tick me off for real.

[@luminievevt]

Someone told me the @/ is for the sake of the post to have more views. Because when u use @ it is less views but im not so sure

[@lottafandoms]

I don't know where these people rly live, but if they're not in the USA, it's most likely why they're not getting any help. PP tends to give people iin the US special treatment, compared to everywhere else unfortunately.

[@AoyukaTTV]

The @/ afaik is for several reasons, it seems the algorithm doesn't like tags/links in the initial tweet, even if it's a tag. So sometimes people will do it like that and then fully tag them in a reply. The second reason is every like, reply and repost will also give the tagged person a notification, so it's to not spam them. I'm usually a little on the fence cause I don't generally expect a lot of interaction on my tweets anyway lol, but I do want to be careful and not cause spam for my artist.

[@kittysennpaii97]

this ain't NO accident!!!

[@ImpactronGaming]

The silence speaks for itself

[@piecanl]

3:29 this on it's own isn't really that big of a deal, usually some vtubers post a lot of art work of their characters throughout the day, sometimes multiple from the same artist, so it's just to not flood others' notifications

[@chrisoconner1803]

This shit is why I refuse to use PayPal as an artist

[@KiraHedits]

I’m a bit new to learning how to navigate commissions as I’m still preparing, what do you use instead of PayPal?

[@Shiizuuwu]

early to a katliente video, today is a good day. im so sorry this situation happened to them tho :(

[@perijellyfish]

im concerned

[@Anaamaranthine]

Do you think you could cover the Cyareclones situation? They’re an artist who keeps hopping fandoms to avoid taking accountability for scamming so many people :/ A lot of the callout posts aren’t getting the attention they need, and they’re probably just going to hide and continue not paying people back

[@Sigmaswaglady]

What are your thoughts on the meowmouto drama?

[@Mizuunono]

The way I would've started attacking 😭😭😭

[@Flamefirekitsune-s8b]

I would get lawyers involved

[@Meowow-l7x]

Let me say my opinion on this subject first there are many reasons I can think of to make her do this but I do not justify her action what she did is really terrible for the artist😢 - 1- Maybe she was asking many artists to draw for her and as we know some of them are late in accepting the request maybe she asked many artists and they did not respond to her maybe she had a specific artist she wanted to draw for her but he did not respond so she could not wait anymore and asked the artists randomly and what happened happened and she recharge money back because either the artist she wanted responded to her or something else, 2- There is a waiting list among the artists maybe her favorite artist accepted her request in same time when the work completed. """because if she a Chinese maybe she had a gap time between country or her fav artist and our artist who get scammed""" 3- The reason she does not respond is probably because her account is managed by a company or several people and not one person I'm sorry if my words hurt anyone I just want to share my opinion feel free to reply to my opinion I accept every discussion ❤

[@AsttrydPacheco]

I was just watching this and I thought the name "Ayako" was familiar. Is it the same Ayako from the Aishi and Surge case? 😮‍💨 if it is, that person is a whole new level of problematic

[@Beelzebubu]

just an hour ago i was checking if you uploaded any new video, Let`s see what we have today👀

[@MakkyMaks]

That’s why ion use PayPal…every time I’ve used PayPal it has been sketch😭

[@The_bean_knownasneku]

Can you share your opinion on the owoneko situation on KZbin

[@RandomCollection04]

can you please ACTUALLY DO research into the topics you bank off of? Going along with hearsay is always going to be a sign of bad faith, and a lot of people are pointing this out

[@PartyDemoness]

In regards to the @/ it's usually to save spam but also Twitter REALLY likes making @'s into "replies" and that makes it less seen on feeds.

[@ferazapam]

Yay

[@Narumasano]

First for another scam drama!

[@NeedmoreVodkaASAP]

How can you morally live with yourself while you maliciously spread misinformation about Bungo Taiga? Like seriously... you and I both know a private investigation was done and showed he was the victim of stalkers who wanted to end his career yet you dont care... Your a bad person and claiming ignorance for a youtuber who does the content you do just wont cut it. I hope one day you decide to apologize to Taiga publicly

[@cc_the_rebel]

These Vtubers can’t seem to act right huh 😂

[@Mario583a]

Even non-Vtubers.

[@SouICoffin]

Maybe not this video but stop spreading baseless lies.

[@musyne5887]

which video did she spread lies in??

[@meirin5316]

@@musyne5887 go google her and her issues and you will find it. research yourself. makes you research more than she usually does...

[@namenoname3284]

Please do everyone a favour and quit content creation

[@cyberpunklain]

???

[@i_heart_jesus-l1v]

im so confused

[@tweek_tweak_loves_cooffie]

2ND!! I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!

[@ashvv]

the @.artist thing IS to prevent spam! most vtubers, usually corporate vtubers, do this to avoid overwhelming their artists :D