Artist's Speedpaint To Disprove AI Claims Raises Even More Suspicion...

[@Vyris2D]

All this AI nonsense is making me miss OG DeviantArt drama

[@floof7680]

Same

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I miss when the hot tea was somebody colorpicking someone else's pastel dog oc

[@JepMZ]

I was pretty oblivious of any drama there too back then. Except maybe Australian guy tribute bandwagoning and that super delusional guy who keeps spamming their art everywhere

[@jasperjazzie]

even deviantart now is just full of ai slop and it just feels super soulless. say whatever you want abt old deviantart but at least it had its charm, and all the people who made weird ms paint art at least put some effort into creating something.

[@SyntaxSynapse]

oh dude REAL...

[@violettbun]

I miss when soft and blurred/jelly art wasn't a sign of AI. When done right by actual artists it's so pretty to me and i find it so sad that it was stolen by AI

[@aiiiia9971]

I agree. I love all art styles, AI art is ruining our opportunities to enjoy and create the art we love

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

AI art can actually be really cool, if used for surrealist images that are supposed to give off a strange and, well, surreal vibe. AI is extremely good at this imo. When you use AI for realistic or cartoon illustrations however, it always has this distinctive plastic-y look to it. I haven't done enough research to know whether this is the case for all generative AI models, but it certainly is for those I have personally played with so far. You can tell that AI was used most of the time.

[@Marynicole830]

@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirusAI can make the most surreal crap that most people couldn’t even think up and the ai ‘style’ gives it an even more surreal look. I love AI art. I don’t love companies taking advantage of it. It should just be a fun toy, nothing more. Not for profit since it takes from artists work. Yes a human can take inspiration from other art but it just feels different when an AI does it for anything besides a fun experiment or to make desktop backgrounds with

[@consume_arsenic]

​@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus alternatively, there are actual people that make surreal art?? and are better at it????????

[@stan8479]

@@Marynicole830Your "fun toy" is destroying the environment further...

[@Noonecouldever]

One note abt the no undoing in a speedpaint- It’s a red flag in some programs, but not in Ibis paint ( and I think Clip studio). The speedpaint recording cuts out undos, and this artist uses ibis, so that’s why theres no undo-ing. Liquify and lasso/transform adjusts are still recorded though, and most fake speedpaints have none in the speedpaint, so it’s still worthwhile to look :) (Also, ibis has a with window and without fixed camera, which makes it look like it was screen recorded when it’s not, which this artist may have done)

[@desirae_wallace]

oh this is helpful! i use ibispaint but i had no idea

[@Noonecouldever]

@ofc!

[@hmmbutwhatif]

its usually ibispaint because of the UI or the watermark in on the bottom (if it has music)

[@ghastlygavin]

As someone who has tried making an ibis speed paint, it doesn't record zoom ins and opening layers

[@letscrashcar9502]

​@@ghastlygavinI do.Theres settings to change that

[@CrowMaiden]

the disclaimer reminds me of like, when gaming streamers talk about people using aimbot. you can generally tell when someone is cheating based on one thing being significantly better than the others. this applies to games and art. in games like Overwatch, it's when their regular gameplay is amature (bad positioning, walking into walls because they don't have map knowledge, etc.) but their aim is pro-level. in art, it's when they're making simple mistakes (the ear coming from nowhere, for example) but their rendering is incredible. skills tend to go up in relation to each other. I learned shading and highlighting from picture editing and watching makeup tutorials, but when you learn more about other areas, even the things you were already good at improves. this is why, in games, the aim being disconnected from other skills is a give away and in art, the rendering being better than the basic anatomy is a give away.

[@katnchat]

you worded this so well omg this is exactly what i was trying to convey!!

[@kyupiangel90]

As a gamer AND artist(i game for fun and wanna make art my career), i TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. To any knowledgeable person on a specific area, it's SO obvious when someone is cheating!! No matter what we are talking about, being it art or gaming or cooking, cheating is cheating, and we WILL notice, no matter how much you try to fake it, Ms./Mr. Cheater.🐇🌸

[@wajfan]

Winton

[@CrowMaiden]

@@wajfan Winton.

[@HellCromeE]

​@@CrowMaidenWinton

[@mushydyce]

sucks that so many artists are turning to the dark said and lying about it, especially when they're so creative and talented at art without ai

[@probablyjinxed]

it’s kind of like the thing with cheaters in video games sometimes being people who are already great at them…

[@rainofstars5809]

it turns out that they don't so creative and talented

[@musicxnr8876]

They are not real artists. A real artist would never use AI for an actual artwork.

[@graveyardshift2100]

Half of my stuff is in mspaint at this point, partly so that I can brag about making good art in mspaint.

[@brooklyn5755]

❤❤❤

[@Flutter_Aeina]

The people saying stuff like “I don’t draw without a sketch!” are so annoying! Like ok, but do you do everything else that was talked about? No? Then you’re fine! It’s all the parts TOGETHER

[@katnchat]

thats what I mean! 😅

[@nerixh2090]

@@katnchatthank u sm for making this video I got lots of hate for calling her art ai and I’ve been watching u for a long time❤

[@israeltijero7685]

@@katnchat None of the things mentioned are really strong enough evidence to accuse someone of using AI, even all together. By pointing out all these things that are pretty common in real artist's art processes and using it as "evidence" that someone is using AI only results in less experienced artists going on witch hunts based on crappy evidence. For example, any artist with a background in traditional media would be able to draw with less sketching and pick their colors correctly on a first pass. They probably wouldn't use layers the same way that long-time digital artists would either. Even all together, this stuff is not "evidence" of anything. I'm not saying that they aren't using AI, but I think hunting for all of these people like this will inevitably lead to false accusations and IMO, 100 AI users getting away with it is still better than 1 artist quitting because they were accused in front of thousands of people.

[@OcarinaLink24]

(NOTE AT BEGINNING: 1) Kat this isn’t you, you handle it with respect. This is for OP 2) I’m not saying this piece isn’t AI or that making a video on it is wrong- it’s good to call them out, I’m just trying to explain to you why saying it’s “annoying” is so tone deaf when real artists are getting chased off the internet) I do a lot of them 🤷 Like, a bunch. That’s because I’m not a beginner or an advanced artist, I’m intermediate. That means some things I do well and others I don’t. I can make hands that people say don’t look like a ‘beginner artist’ but I can’t do faces for shit. It would be so incredibly easy for someone to say “nobody who knows how to draw hands like that would have such a janky jaw line”. (They wouldn’t because AI can’t hands, but again I’m just trying to give you an example.) There’s a possibility there’s an artist that can render like that that just sucks ass at faces. Maybe they usually do environmental art or something and that’s why they’re better at rendering colors well (again not saying they applies to THIS PIECE specifically because it is way too extreme to be a first try lmao I’m just giving an ❤️ example ❤️). As an intermediate artist I’ve done lines to proportion faces like that and they’ve been super wrong because I’m still learning. I could go on, I really could. Yes everything is about ‘did you do that all at the same time in your art journey’ and honestly? Yeah. I have. That’s what you get when you’re in the middle sometimes. So when people who do these things (sketch layer being the most common because it’s the one people will screech about the most) it’s _scary._ It makes you not want to post anymore because “what if people see too many mistakes at once and assume the worst? I work on procreate, how will I convince them there’s not a hidden layer!?Will I end up like X falsely accused artist and get doxxed?” It’s threatening. Not in the “GRRR I’M GONNA GETCHAAA” kind of way, but more like “oh damn, there’s a bear cave near my house” kind of way. Ever looming. Ever reminding you that the wrong post could get you mauled. It’s not “annoying” when people jump into the comments in a panic because they understandably feel attacked. Thats what happens when you’re a beginner at spotting AI art. They need room to get comfortable with the idea that spotting AI art is more than two or three mistakes you could easily do. We should give them room to do that instead of finger wagging at them because they’re understandably going through a normal human reaction of dread and fear.

[@Flutter_Aeina]

@ if they aren’t doing ai, why are they getting so defensive when someone completely unrelated to them is? There was a recent case where a man committed murder reenacting a scene from the anime Bleach. Now, I’m a huge Bleach fan. I’m not going to get offended by people bringing up that the guy watched bleach cuz guess what? I don’t kill people. An extreme example but it gets the point across. If I’m an artist who does partial lineart, I’m not going to get pissed if someone who uses ai is called out because that’s one of the numerous traits to their art that clues in something’s off. Someone walking alone at night isn’t inherently suspicious. Now if they are in all black, hood up, stopping when you stop, and hiding something in their pocket, maybe they might be a bad person. That’s not an attack on people who wear black hoodies

[@SirPerolino]

5:34 Want to know what is the most funny thing to me? In IbisPaint it automaticly creates a speedpaitn of any work you've done, so when you ended a piece you can later rewatch this or downoload So recroding it like this AFTER the alligations is unbelivably funny, its hard to belive the user would record it before Its isnt logical soo yea that the end of my rant

[@Khn_2102]

Ikr 😂

[@wrightcember]

“you think my art is ai? let me just redraw it rq”

[@Wildcard71]

I get better lines with a pencil than with a mouse. Disadvantage: Correcting mistakes is noticeable.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I think, even if ai *does* get to the point of being able to replicate speedpaints, a smoking gun will always be if they can't draw the same character in different poses at different angles with different lighting. An artist who is experienced enough to render at ai's level should be able to recreate that same character, while ai cannot keep characters consistent

[@ChocolateShaddixX]

Unfortunatly, this is already a thing. Ai got pretty good in generating the same characters. Currently there are little flaws in consistency, in the details, but this is the state from maybe mid 2024 to now. Won't take long until these little errors are fixed :(

[@DoveJS]

​ @ChocolateShaddixX That's only possible if the AI has a lot of references to pull from. Any characters who aren't as well known or more original would be harder for it to consistently recreate. Also, some characters don't translate well to 3D or the shift from different angles might not be what you'd expect without knowing how they look. I suspect the AI will be terrible at different human nose types and anything else that's less popular to focus on, unless the person creating the dataset actively includes those things.

[@5M173Y]

pretty sure we also arent gonna see the ai struggle to figure out what the heck its doing and scribble sketches on the side to figure out angle lololol. Ai cant understand our struggle so why would it replicate it

[@xlrbossshorts]

@@5M173Y AI will eventually surpass human intelligent, I think it will figure it all out eventually.

[@JCel]

I'm almost sure that more than half of these problems can be eliminated once someone takes up the effort to train a model on humans specifically and adds a layer of non-gen AI to the process. Imagine the first step being attribute generation for a mannequin model with fixed parameter boundaries. Then a pose generation based on a separately trained ai that looks at all the training images, fits a mannequin to the image and learns off of those mannequin parameters. So it would give you natural and balanced poses. These 2 preprocessing steps would eliminate a lot of reproduction problems (with the model parameters saved in the picture metadata) and wonky anatomy. Each step has been already archived. All that needs to happen is a big Corp with massive computing power to build a pipeline between them and start training. This 3d model preprocessing stage would be extendable to different objects, and while more expensive in training and use than the traditional genAI approach, it would further eliminate problems like missing continuity for objects or artstyle mixing like the inconsistent outlines. Moore's law isn't dead yet, so computing power will continue to grow and sink in cost exponentially. It's just a matter of time until the differences between real art and ai art will be almost untraceable, if we like it or not...

[@noneyabones]

The ONE time I worked with a pallet that was the “final” colors for the piece. But I *STILL* did finishing touches to the render that changed the final colors. It’s super uncommon to know exactly how you want the final render to look before the piece is finished and it takes SO much practice and takes so much knowledge of colors

[@DarukaEon]

(5:54) - I just can't look at the lips, man. The "guide lines" curve in the wrong directions. It's suggesting that they have inverted lips and philtrum. 🤨

[@MichaelIllust]

Could be an anatomy mistake. People make them

[@alexia3552]

Do you mean the image result in the upper right corner of the screen of the grey polygon bust? Bc those inverted lips are cracking me up

[@koii319]

@@MichaelIllustthe random ass lines on the eye balls tho😭😭

[@MichaelIllust]

@koii319 not that random

[@unknownjohnson8277]

Thank you Bob. Taking time out of his busy schedule to come help Kat is so gracious of him!

[@katnchat]

we appreciate bob 🫡

[@Theunhingedroleofmurder]

@@katnchatfr Bob needs a raise 🙏

[@Ghosty0969.Official]

I just came from a picture of a Ai art, it was honestly hilarious because they added their watermark on it, the piece is literally missing a shoe one of the pigtails with floating pieces of hair and then the hand is so weird, like one of the fingers was melting into the bg. It really sad to see that everyone is just faking art with fake process 😢

[@asteridshydrangea-jt2hf]

The watermark is also wild to me because the computer generated art ppl will get so mad over other compgen ‘artists’ ~stealing their work. That they had an algorithm do for them!

[@soirema]

4:10 baby, beginner artists dont make miatakes on pieces that LOOK LIKE THIS, the colors, perspective, water, this is a complicated piece, this is a dead giveaway

[@reginaldforthright805]

I’ll be honest the art is pretty bad. Doesn’t mean it’s not ai, but the facial construction and perspective is way off and so is the lighting and rendering and the colors are kind of a mess and don’t make a nice composition

[@michselbstangepisst8533]

She says that on every video and it’s very repetitive

[@vocaloidhoe]

The bubbles being warped are what did it for me

[@Ruthl3ss_c0rpze]

​@@reginaldforthright805 art is art :> IMO there's no "proper" way to draw anything (if dis was drawn ofc XD)

[@jasperjazzie]

honestly i don't even blame her for saying that bc you know people would come in the comments and say "but i do this and i don't use ai!!" which like, sure we all have our own art quirks that might be something ai does, but like...come on guys lmao

[@goblinbrained]

lol that 'sketch' is cleaner than my line art XD I've never seen anyone structure their guides like that...

[@ThriftyFangirl]

The irises are the biggest giveaway imo. No human artist, beginner or experienced, would make that choice

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

In fairness, I have bad hand eye coordination and I could definitely accidentally screw up something like that and not even notice. In fact, most things people call out as AI technically COULD be made by actual artists. It’s like she said though, it’s when one person does a whole lot of them at once.

[@alexia3552]

@@tarabooartarmy3654 for me it’s the account full of heavily influenced and/or copied works. Even if it was painstakingly drawn with physical ink and paper, it’s pretty clear there was inspiration at least taken and they can’t be blind to how similar it turned out. It’s honest to post an attribution link to the original first and just share yours as a sketch practice piece, not as if it’s the main feature. Idk the tool used for copying feels irrelevant and somewhat distracting from the actual issue of copying.

[@CloudHed.0-btw]

4:01 the lighting is also really off… it looks like there’s meant to be a faint blue light on the chin, jaw, right cheek and over the right eye, but it’s not reflecting off the nose at all.

[@KAYrma]

I wouldn't really bet as ai on lighting mistakes, but the line art on the eye/tear duct fades out weird, and the colors mix in the space, which shouldn't happen normally. I can't see enough to accuse this person of using Ai, but I would be keeping an eye on the rest of their art

[@Moohki]

Truly don’t understand why people spend all of this time and effort to try and hide their ai usage when they could be using that time to actually learn and build up their art skills…

[@thatextrovertartist5474]

Cuz they want attention without putting serious effort into getting good

[@TheCruzayder]

Ironically, they might actually gain some artistic skill in trying to make it seem legit.

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

And I don’t get why people are obsessed with calling out people using AI unless they’re actually scamming people for commissions or selling an art product or something. It’s obsessive and sad. Just do what I do and leave a comment that says, “Ah, this is AI because of this and this.” No hate, just a comment to bring attention for people who might not know. I’m not going to spend 30 minutes making a video calling out every last detail… unless I just want to get views myself. 🤔 People are spending obscene amounts of time making all these videos because they know it’s a hot button issue for artists and it will get them views.

[@Puhapamacslucy]

​@@tarabooartarmy3654they get money from sharing ai generated media which for tiktok can take up a part of the creator pool and give them money if people knew they would avoid the channek and the channel loses money

[@BulletSponge178]

In part because they believe they're so much smarter than everyone else that doing it this way "proves" that, unlike the "slower," "stupider" people who do it the real way. They get off on proving their supposed superiority by fooling others.

[@RusticKey]

Let's appreciate Bob's sacrifice drowning himself to demonstrate harsh lighting.

[@Your-pet-Rat]

9:42 Wait why does this actually look absolutely amazing

[@CamilaBezerraMiragem]

Exactly

[@dopeynut]

i should do some bob exercises for stuff like liggting and shading. this looks way eaier to play around with

[@ohboy-zi1yf]

everything is sus af but the unnecessarily overusing layers is kinda the nail in the coffin forme...cuz their "speedpaint" is in *IBISPAINT*. putting too many layers in ibis is how your device explodes and everyone who regularly uses it knows that.

[@yourlocaldemon2195]

Also the excessive use of the clipping mask like… that makes no sense

[@genericgamergirl]

Yeah I do realistic portraits in ibis and the max layer I use is like... 20? And that's sometimes merged again to smooth things over once I'm happy with it. It explodes pretty quickly if you do it like a PC style layering

[@NekomiSon]

I need to get better at labeling my layers. Because I will realize I made a mistake and go through several layers to find which layer I put the mark on. I use MediBang, btw.

[@atinybruh]

What?? I never knew that omg😭😭 good to know

[@bluesusername]

Oh yeah i remember making art pieces and getting frustrated because my device would slow down SO MUCH and I still wasnt done with the art

[@Ugly_Squid5149]

chat if you fear ai accusations always draw something random in the middle of you drawing like duoling giving birth or something and then go back to drawing, basically do side quests while doing the main quest because ai could never recreate a beautiful duo

[@Esther._.Offical]

real (i need to try)

[@aya5468]

Duo is my spirit animal but also my biggest fear He precious tho

[@ladyjira2867]

as someone who is only just getting into doing speedpaints thank you for the tip. now whenever I'm baffled by something or struggling during a speedpaint I'm going to doodle a tiny confused Luigi in the corner

[@aiiiia9971]

This is so true 😂 and you are poisoning the AI at the same time

[@katara9]

It's sad that people have to prove that they drew something when AI is also learning to copy from the speedpaints we give out as proof. I saw someone once say that people try to get us to show our speedpaint proof to teach AI how to make speedpaint videos, or whatever else they can do with our footage.

[@yoyohayli]

I hope that all this AI bs leads to artists with art styles not typically copied by AI to become more popular now. Like, AI has a standard style it copies, so a good indicator that an artist is real right off the bat os if their style is markedly different.

[@houndgirl7365]

There was one artist with a VERY unique arts Tyler that she spent 17 years to master; AI tech bros stole it 🤬 all I can say is protect your art. My earlier works on DA I abandoned, but I will not update any works on that platform; in fact none of my modern stuff is on any account because AI ruined that. That said when my art stuff is put up (I do commissions and works for my fiance who freelances) it gets nightshade and glazed!

[@Aiedaeil]

My art style isn't good for tracing lol

[@TechCarnivore1]

Just an FYI,. it only takes a handful of pieces to train a LORA on an art style.

[@Aiedaeil]

@@TechCarnivore1 ain't no way right 💀 FUDGE- NOTHING OG MINE IS SAFE 😭😭😭😭

[@carimeslockdownedtree2654]

​@@TechCarnivore1 I... hope that the fact many of my drawings are traditional sketches, messy lines, that I take pictures of with my phone and then color and render digitally, it makes it harder for AI to copy convincingly. My rendering isn't the best or all that detailed, so it's all in the paper texture underneath the colors and the messy pencil lines. Not sure how good AI would be at copying that.

[@KwehShiro]

0:50 nah at first glance that looks flat out like ai generated image

[@Ghosty2098]

Yeah, ai has many trademark "ai styles"

[@AhnaNonsense]

I think she was just saying it to be nice lol

[@McPoshua]

When you invest all your character points into rendering before investing a single point into facial anatomy

[@darkenmarr_arts]

It's getting to the point I really hate AI. Before all this, I saw how it could be a very useful tool. But it's being abused.

[@christalcavanaugh]

I spent SO much time trying to find a nice generic hiking photo without it being AI and it was honestly devastating. It sounds stupid but it made me feel helpless and lost because what are we even doing as artists anymore?

[@persephonehades7547]

Three things to expunge off the internet: AI art AI voiceovers TikTok voice filters I promise no one will make fun of your voice if you speak over a video, but if you're that self-conscious just have the subtitles and let people read lol

[@pearlykangel]

just generative ai in general honestly, it's pretty harmful to those with jobs/occupations, etc. in creative fields and harms the environment

[@stefyroxanne7567]

Not just voice filters... but photo filters in general are getting so good that it can change everything about the face of the person, transforming them into someone else. It's nuts the lengths people will go to catfish others, and all because they don't like how they look.

[@marz9172]

It's not always just being insecure some ppl just dont want to put their voice out for privacy reasons etc. It's actually not your business

[@persephonehades7547]

@@marz9172 They can just not use AI/filtered voices and just use subtitles, like I said at the end.

[@pearlykangel]

@@marz9172 its not necessary for them to use voice filters. if you want to protect your voice from the internet for privacy reasons, use a text to speech or just make a video with text

[@YesImThatOneAA]

Is no one gonna talk about the fact that all their ibis paint layers were on the "normal" blend mode? You mean to tell me with a straight face that someone just magically knew how to do highlights and shadows without blend modes all by eye???

[@Cutefox1014]

You can actually do it without blend modes if you understand colour theory (I've done it before)

[@emackenzie]

People (myself included) do it all the time, especially if they have a background in traditional art. That being said, everything they show demonstrates a lacking understanding of the fundamentals and it just makes them look more suspicious, like they were just color picking off the generated image

[@Khn_2102]

Lots of people do it including me once you know about color theories

[@SquishyTheVampire]

Art classes really help with that lol

[@portobeIIa]

yes guys, we all know color theory. but an artist that skilled in rendering would streamline the process as much as possible, specially if they want to post consistently for social media, and blend modes help with that... it's just one more nail in the coffin of things that this person didn't account for that actual digital artists instantly know about.

[@jeanmouloude]

I miss old deviantart..... I miss old deviantart I MISS OLD DEVIANT ART I MISS 😭 OLD 😭 DEVIANTART I never knew i'd miss the day of endless adopts and sparkly OCs

[@dalmajikkot90]

deviantart was what made me start drawing, I signed up just to appreciate the pretty pictures but got inspired to try and almost 20 years later, I'm still drawing 🥰 I'll never understand how some people can feel satisfied generating or tracing AI art, I get satisfied only by creating my own stuff

[@stephanybrown3226]

​@@dalmajikkot90 This! I sometimes practice to get a feel for different angles by tracing models I MADE but never use it in the final result. If I don't do the strokes myself it feels wrong!

[@AlwaysBeArting]

6:52 oooh yeah this stuck out to me. As a realism artist, anything that isn’t anatomically correct sticks out and whilst this kind of anime style and cartoon styles in general are known for playing with and changing different proportions - AI always has like weird hands or tiny arms - just the weirdness of the neck/head/chest/shoulder ratio here got me. Susssss 🤔

[@st4rm4st3r]

12:45 as a cartoonist with nearly 20 years experience, this looks bad, and i can see why they removed their art, from this point specifically, there is a very specific term in the fine art (classic art) communities to describe this perfectly: every single one of their images are *digital knockoffs* trying to be passed as the originals.

[@CheezBuper]

The one thing that i noticed that when the artist is drawing is that they remember that they can’t just trace and need it to look real, so they just add random lines on the face. As well as the teeth LITERALLY being the SAME color as the lips😭

[@wrightcember]

the eye shines being different colors…

[@ïïbisu]

I know a guy who used to paint, in watercolors, gouache, markers, digital, you name it! He was really really good at it, he had a deep understanding of colour, but he mainly painted, just a brush with ink in the paper, he never did sketches, I never seen he pick up a pencil, he painted everything by eye. I don't think he knows anatomy, and I bet he would fumble at any type of line art you'll put him through. It is possible to learn art doing it that way and he would be someone with incredible rendering skills yet making rookie mistakes in other areas. But I know that something people who get offended and targeted by this type of allegations is that, is not just the combination of all your art process and knowledge, but also your demeanor, this guy I mentioned is, for the most part, chill. AI users tend to be very assertive about themselves and very *in your face* like attitude. People trying to deceive others into thinking they have the skills are too attention starved, if you're not using AI to cheat at art, then you have nothing to fear and nothing to prove... If you want to prove still, you could always do a live painting section.

[@Leavannah]

your first paragraph made me think of Bob Ross xD

[@thisorthat7746]

ever thought people might get defensive over their hardwork when they're accused of it being AI? we cant just expect everyone to be chill and behave a certain way. judging if someone's art is AI or not based solely on attitude is insane and completely misses the mark ..

[@ïïbisu]

You're right, and thank good that's exactly what I have not said, but I figured I'll explain a little more plainly. I've tried to convey that we tend to treat artists just by their art, not as an individual person, I meant like: "Being a cheater will show in more ways than just your art" We shouldn't accuse anyone, AI got to a point that *no one* can be for sure if it is or not. But if you will judge, you should consider aspects beyond the bounds of art. And I mentioned that my friend "was chill" I'm not saying I expect everyone to be chill (especially not in a situation you've already accused someone) but that he's not trying to impress anyone. People faking art are trying to impress others, there is no other benefit in faking art but to soothe the ego. An artist does art for himself, art for the sake of art And I ended by giving some advice, if you are being accused, and you're clear, you have nothing to fear and should not worry, kinda like a mantra.

[@thisorthat7746]

@@ïïbisu real artists were bullied off social media, ended up deleting all of their work and entire accounts. people who were excited and brave enough to share a piece of themsleves with the world fell victims to this aggressive witch hunt by people who were completely and utterly wrong in their accusations. many of these artists didn't argue back or defend themselves, they just deleted everything as a reaction because the world was so aggressive to them and their art for absolutely no reason. nothing is bringing that artist back because believe it or not, this shit inflicts real damage on confidence and mental health. so no, i completely disagree with your advice that "if you're not faking it then you are fine and shouldn't worry" because that's not how the world/internet works, and people will tear you apart and eat you alive if they've decided your art is AI regardless of your behaviour.

[@thisorthat7746]

@@ïïbisu i think instead of giving artists advice that isn't helpful and expect them to just "deal with it", maybe we should direct our attention to these witch hunters instead. because they're the ones in dire need of advice and direction (and to calm the fuck down). it's not the artists who should be changing anything about themsleves, it's those people that need a change of mentality.

[@Kiras_Megalomania1994]

3:38 Also the size of the tear duct is mega sus as well-- I've never seen an artist draw that big of a tear duct ever. Not saying it can't happen but like... usually when I see an artist draw a tear duct, it's much smaller. And I personally just straight up don't draw them.

[@Mubshin]

Something I’m wondering is that in Ai there’s obvious flaws in them that people can notice, but my question is why do Ai artist even post their AI art when there a obvious flaws in them? 🧐 is it for rage bait or something?

[@Biggiecheese20]

They genuinely think they can get away with it. They think they're slick. At least I think so

[@HankHillspimphand]

they dont understand why real artists can spot ai 98% of the time. its the little things. they just create ai art and think its fine. also they cant fix the ai art becasue to fix it they would need a higher level of skill than they have.

[@romimig9503]

If I had to guess, it's because their lack of skill development makes them blind to it. You can't develop an artistic eye if you only look at things on a surface level and go "yeah good enough". So they don't even learn what flaws are present because they don't think it looks weird in the first place. It might come off as 'old lady yells at cloud', but I feel the way people engage with art is changing because AI is making it so people don't even think about it beyond "ooh pretty" and moving on. And when people are more concerned with getting more views, the more you can shovel out, the more attention you're likely to get. This is my biggest gripe with AI art.

[@yoyohayli]

Laziness. Pure laziness and wanting to crank out as much content as possible to gain money or fame.

[@thegiftedfire3470]

It’s likely because they don’t have a keen eye compared to experienced artists.

[@QueerQuil]

I usually draw without a sketch, but it's more like my lineart is a clean sketch that I clean as I go. THAT was definitely tracing, there was no order or forceable path forward, and it was very likely ai. They are not wrong for tracing, but they are wrong for posting it on the internet and lying about tracing.

[@Venuz-the-dragon]

On the spanish texts it reads 14:53: "hello, shows a drawing where you have to trust the process" In 14:55 it reads "hello, they show you a drawing that took three hours to make in thirty seconds" In 15:45 it says: "hello, shows their begginer drawing". Wow this person really thinks that they can have a shortcut by tracing AI art, and sucks that it accually looks like they have art skills...

[@katnchat]

thank you for the translation!

[@Venuz-the-dragon]

@@katnchat you're welcome! :D

[@nerixh2090]

I WAS CHERRY2.0 I GOT SO MUCH HATE ON THAT FOR WHAT JUST FOR IT TO BE ACTUALLY AI IVE BEEN WATCHING U FOR SO LONG AND IM SO GLAD U SAID THIS❤❤❤

[@katnchat]

OMG IM SO SORRY FOR WHAT U WENT THRU T_T it's so not fair to u ;-; it's most definitely ai to me :o

[@loodgack]

It’s blatantly obvious for anyone who’s been drawing for more than ..idk half year Like AI people seriously think we’re that dumb🤔🤔🤔

[@vocaloidhoe]

The bubbles being warped are what did it for me

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

This is the real threat AI poses to artists. Seducing them. Discrediting them.

[@christalcavanaugh]

Seducing…

[@mikaidev]

The person calling out the artist for using ai uses an ai voice for their video. I find that hilarious for some reason

[@haikatosdiary]

And it is the most AI voice ever lmao

[@Blake_H_888]

Yeah but the call-out person is not trying to pretend that the ai voice is their voice. And just speaking is not a form of art and requires no talent. Ai art is bad. Ai voices like this are fine, they're not trying to trick anyone.

[@christalcavanaugh]

@@Blake_H_888 not yet…

[@yankee7238]

i have no idea why artists will do this. dont us as artists take pride in our own creations ? wont it be natural for us to be happy or want validation for something we MADE ? So why hide behind the enemy ? what good does this actually bring to the artist ? they get happy knowing people like AI art ? its not even made by you...? so many questions.

[@SquishyTheVampire]

No real artist does this. People who want easy attention do this. Also it's easy to get disheartened by other people's art if yours isn't that good. It's not a justification of course, but that's usually the reason.

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

@@SquishyTheVampirethat’s almost certainly the reason. If they’re good enough to trace and still render well enough make it convincing to most people then they’ve obviously put some time into trying to learn. Maybe they’re frustrated they’ve spent a lot of time and still haven’t gotten to where others are or they have no imagination and can only technically render a reference faithfully but can’t make anything interesting. Some people aren’t interested in copying the same references on Pinterest that 5,000 other people have already done

[@Nuadin]

If they didn't think it was wrong, they wouldn't have tried to hide it.

[@tanishamuntslag6369]

10:03 as an artist who has been drawing for the past 18 years I actually do start with color 😂 but I keep changing it because it might not fit the background I want

[@stillbuyvhs]

6:21 Rob Liefield could create well rendered drawings, but the anatomy on those drawings was terrible. Different people focus on & learn different parts of art, based on what they consider most important.

[@FoapSoam]

1:47 bald daisuke mentioned

[@Nixfe_o]

AHH YES

[@zcramblo]

This washes my mouth

[@thatextrovertartist5474]

12:41 and i believe in those niche cases, the person would 100% be able to demonstrate their rendering process and prove themselves The whole point is to fish out fakers, if you can draw, and you get accused, you’re fine, just prove that you can do it beyond a shadow of a doubt

[@flamingturnip]

I think art studies are underrated. We SHOULD be talking about them. Shouting out the original artist. I like it when art is sorta "studio" based even online. Definitely one of the main things I miss about being in school. Maybe it's just me but if someone did a study of my work AND tagged me I think I'd be flattered. I'd probably even want to give feedback.

[@NoThanksBro]

i draw without a sketch most of the time, but i erase and redraw the same thing a thousand times to get it just right enough

[@MurakiChiyo]

all well said, can I just point out the irony of whoever that smug sounding person is who's video you watched about it all, and them using AI voices? Meanwhile the voice actors in america are in active strikes because their voices are being used to teach AI without their consent .... basically same issue just with voices ....

[@mrosy4782]

Not trying to debunk this or whatever, but there are people who does separate layers for their drawings. When I told them they should organize that they got mad at me. And tbh I’m a professional artist who’s been drawing about 20 years now. And I myself don’t know what the plains of the face is. I seen it before but never done research about it. I think it’s about lighting. Again I’m not trying to excuse this person. Just commenting

[@catluvsyou]

14:28 this is actually a card from the game pjsk. It could be that the person redrew it from it btw you can look up Emu Otori summer card and you'll see

[@czmAvery]

The irony of an AI art buster using an AI voice tho ...

[@Esther._.Offical]

I don’t think using an AI voice is as bad as using AI art

[@glutenfree7057]

@@Esther._.Offical it’s not, but it’s still very ironic ngl.

[@Houshalter]

​@@Esther._.Officalwho decides that? Voice actors hate ai voices, artists hate ai art, etc.

[@wrightcember]

@@HoushalterVA’s hate copies of other people’s voice used for monetization. ai tiktok voices are harmless, especially with how recognized they are

[@Joe_mama_a_hoe]

I’m sorry😭 I though It was okay since it was recognise able and other art commentary use it and also I worry my pronunciation will suck since English is not my first language 🙏😓

[@Best_Blake]

This is a battle fought by middle schoolers on the battle of tik tok honestly there is simply no purpose to this.

[@WedgyBlue]

I'm glad I used Ibispaint with its art lapse, to prove I draw it 😅 Ai making speedpaint is scary but we Artist help together we can pass through this. As long we are honest!

[@mailingcat]

now I’m glad I don’t draw realistic. My art isn’t in a big category; it’ll take a while for it to be discovered and AI’d to oblivion.

[@2nouli]

I was so sure it was just a beginner artist and that's why it looked weird but the speedpaint convinced me otherwise,

[@keltzy]

I do think it's something a lot of people are really defensive about. It's one thing to know cognitively that it's a combination of several mistakes that makes it clear that something was ai-generated. But if you're someone who, for instance, doesn't sketch before laying down their lineart, and you hear that not sketching is a potential indication of ai use, it's so easy to make that jump to "someone is going to use this to undermine my work at some point" so you preemptively start feeling the need to protect yourself from accusations that don't even exist yet. The whole thing is exhausting.

[@jujubear9909]

I know this feeling. For instance when I stream my art I already prepare the loose sketch before-hand because I take TOO LONG on sketches. Like a long time. I have this major OCD to get the sketch right and for this reason I don't stream it because I feel conscious with my speed and ability messing up the sketch for hours. Now I'm fortunate not to have any negative experience with this but I just kinda stopped streaming altogether because of that fear of being under suspicion. The problem is where do draw the line of misinterpreting honest human mistakes as AI stuff. I've seen so many of my art friends come under fire because of this. It's sad honestly.

[@OvisArcana]

sometimes i lament the fact that my art style is not really all that popular or technically "good" but then i remember i'm never gonna have anyone train their ai on my art and then i can sleep well at night xD makes me kinda sick seeing so many people leaning into ai like that tbh

[@ultraboombean]

Yeah I am getting happier and happier with my shitty drawing at this point. At least it does not look manufactured. I do like some AI art tho.

[@piperb1384]

If you’ve posted your art somewhere on the internet, it’s pretty likely that its already been used in some database aha Terrible stuff. If I’m remembering correctly OpenAI is an LLM that’s trained using the internet as its main database, with others likely taking after

[@OvisArcana]

@ yeah that's part of why i deleted as much of my social media as i could. i pretty much exclusively upload my art to my own site only now. that said, it helps to have an unconventional/unusual art style. most of the time i find ai art is trained on only the most skilled artwork of very particular styles, so my amateur style is probably pretty safe... probably lol

[@gameplaycast]

OMFG... not everyone went to art school or dose things the same way as everyone else. people are so duuuuumb.

[@thisorthat7746]

hard agree

[@Nexxon_8265]

The second video where he explained that people use shapes and lines for guides but I draw eyes without any lines and do the rest

[@randomgrmlin]

He?

[@candybowlspilt]

STANFORD FREAKY PINES 💀

[@bigcheese008]

STOPPP THATS ME

[@Maya1_404]

HELP WHAT

[@Securitybreachwillow743]

Sassss 👑✨💅

[@Parroet]

@@bigcheese008LMAOOO I WATCHED THE TIKTOK YOU MADE SBOUT BEING IN THIS VIDEO 😭

[@thisorthat7746]

this honestly sucks. people in the comments all taking the moral high ground and putting their own policies and philosophies on what constitutes "real art" is baffeling and sad to see. this is extremely damaging. the witch hunt and artists turning on each other... fuck AI to infinity because it's the root cause of all of this. just take me back to the cozy days of deviantart and pixiv where people were free and wild with their art and you could appreciate every art style and artistic choice under the sun. now it seems everyone is walking on egg shells with pitchforks ready to stab the next peron who dares to break the imaginary (and unfounded) rules and policies they decided to place on art and artists.

[@emackenzie]

5:37 I love how the guidelines don't continue through the features. They literally just connected the dots on the pre-existing features

[@xlrbossshorts]

I don't think their 15, they probably put that down to avoid hate.

[@BanjoJill]

This made me see that I need to be more critical of art. I'm so used to ppl having their own styles (cartoony anatomy, exaggerating colors, etc.) that I never think it could all be fake.

[@camwoz5181]

The fact they traced leads me to believe they are most likely a child. It's not ok to trace and claim as you yours. This feels like them trying to do art on their own after tracing for so long and then all of their mistakes show. Don't want to defend them if they did use AI-- but all of these kinda just look like novice mistakes. I know professionals that render and paint beautiful backgrounds when it needs to look more realistic or Tom& Jerry cartoony, but when they were assigned "comic book" inspired BGs with lots of linework, their work got lots of notes. This kid might be really good at rendering or watching a tutorial, like Sakimichans (which this reminds me of)based on the stuff they traced but not experienced enough to notice their mistakes when they do not trace. Like they painted for a long time and then got tired. Just half assing the ears because nobody cares about ears. 6:28 I actually do that with the planes sometimes based on a great video by Reiq where you map out the eyes using 3 dots then draw out lines and kinda build up the planes. It works with stylized anime too. The floating ear and unmatching irises eyes.... totally guilty of doing that myself ~.~. Sometimes even forgetting that erased a part or not noticing. Drawing a messed up tear tuct. Done that too. Drawing a tear duct on one and not the other is kinda weird. I am having a reaction to this getting super embarrassed looking at my own work. Being proud one moment and notice a million mistakes after uploading it 11:35 Personally sketch out in ink and then pick one to focus on as a ref when doing it digitally, because NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME I PUT IN THE LINE WORK THEY NEVER LOOK AS GOOD AS THE SKETCHY LINES. So just do it one go saves tons of heartache. It's also possible they used AI as ref, which would suck. The Joe moma guy is a total jackass though. Why are they using an AI voice while also acting like such a prick?

[@wrenross5315]

God, thank you. I was trawling the comments to find someone who didn't think it was AI. They're clearly a kid who's copying other works they find on pinterest or whatever and this underwater scene is probably no different. There are LOTS of beginner anatomical mistakes that an AI would never make (unless it was trained on beginner art for some reason). They've gotten really skilled at copying rendering techniques, but this sort of work doesn't teach you how to construct bodies, composition or colour palettes on your own, so everything but the rendering is lagging behind. The huge amount of layers is also indicative of a beginner who is so precious about every stroke they make that they create a new layer every time something has to overlap in case they need to go back to it later on. I completely believe this drawing is copied by hand and that they spent a lot of time and effort on it. Hopefully in the future they will stop copying others' art without permission/credit because that sucks, but it sucks a whole lot less than using AI. People have got to figure out what AI art actually looks like before they make accusatory posts slamming a literal child for something they didn't do lol.

[@camwoz5181]

@@wrenross5315 "The huge amount of layers is also indicative of a beginner who is so precious about every stroke they make that they create a new layer every time something has to overlap in case they need to go back to it later on." -100% agree with you there. *facepalm* Using Procreate felt like a handicap in the beginning because the number of layers is limited. I really hope this kid does not get discouraged.The AI companies that are stealing people's work for profit are harming artists in so many ways.

[@clem_the_lemon]

15:09 still learning spanish but to my beginner understanding the text above roughly says: hello (shows you a 3-hour drawing in only 30 seconds)

[@Beepbeepbeep12]

saw this on tiktok and knew it was ai, and at the least they were definitely tracing it, alot of the stuff they draw doesnt make sense anatomy wise and sometimes with the rendering too (the eyes in the first piece really stuck out to me, like, why is one round and the other cut off at the top + sides?)

[@kailathefox]

okay, as an artist who has never studied the planes of face and constantly still needs to use guidelines during sketching to make sure everything looks okay, we do exist. We can render a beautiful image without knowing some of the basics, because theyre not needed if you found your own way to do it. Also, for the kid saying he was 12 and maybe traced art once is a fucking liar. we all traced art and uploaded it. half of us said we traced it and were honest, the other half felt like they still made it originally. we all learned it was tracing by the end of the day and became better artists from it. It feels unfair to call out a young artist falsely and then just scream at them for stealing instead....

[@우키요]

14:37 - Both of these look/are traced from Otori Emu's "Fishing Before the Storm" card in Project Sekai, honestly. Same pose, same character, same art style, same everything.

[@mc_hu_tao]

yeah😭😭

[@strawberry_tokio]

TRANSLATION: The whale piece says " Hello ( shows you a 3 hour drawing in 30 seconds)"

[@draxiss1577]

9:30 The term for the way the light scatters in criss-crossing patterns on subjects like that is 'caustics.' People actually do some crazy art with glass caustics. I think Steve Mould has a video on the subject.

[@Cynikari]

I don't like how instead of taking everything as a whole, people pick out things that upset them just to complain about being offended.

[@ezra5737]

i actually wont say the lineart is a giveaway. cause i actually go back on my pieces and erase the lineart for somethings and keep it for others

[@deusex9731]

I think lineart being at different places like parts that are in the shadows make sense, but ai just cuts them off like with the left ear. It doesnt make any sense to do it there.

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

@@deusex9731I’ve seen a couple of artists who do selective line work where they only put lines on certain areas that need to stand out from nearby similar colors or luminosities but it’s usually done a lot more nicely than this.

[@Xenephos]

The best analogy for spotting AI art to me is like identifying birds that look very similar to each other. Let's say you have Bird A. It has long wings, a long beak, a gray head, and black stripes on its tail. A bird must have these features to be the same as Bird A. (Bird A is representing "AI art".) You're trying to find the birds that match bird A. Bird B has all of those features except you can't tell if it has black stripes on the tail. This is the only photo you have. It could be the same species as bird A, but there's no way to be sure without more proof. (Art that could be AI, but can't be proven without more evidence) Bird C has a gray head and black stripes on the tail, but it also has red spots on its belly. You have many photos that demonstrate this. It's not the same species as Bird A. (Art that uses AI-like techniques but is real) Bird D has all the same features as bird A. You have many photos of birds in its flock that show it has these features. It's the same species as bird A. (AI "art" by an "artist" that has multiple pieces that all share AI tells) It's not just one or two details/techniques that make an art piece genned by an AI. Just because you /someone else does one thing an AI does, doesn't mean your art is the same. Does that make sense? What I'm saying is, don't be offended if someone says a technique you do is an AI tell unless you're actually using AI

[@SeeMeRolling]

this is 100% AI + traced, fake speedpaints like this are common

[@AschersHome]

10:00 being honest, I do stuff like this. Im not an amazing artist, but I usually add my bgs after. Even so, I use extra layers to add the right color to my char and shading..

[@jmcneil3394]

tbh, I do the “colour the character the colour of their environment first before even adding the background” it just all comes down to colour theory. You just need to blend two colours of your desired colours, aka making a palette. Where you grab all your colours, and mix each and single one with the environment colour. For example let’s say your character has yellow/blonde hair, and the environment is blue. So their hair is gonna be a bit green, maybe turquoise. And keep doing that with all your colours. I don’t know what it’s called, but maybe colour harmony. It’s commonly used in painting. And I use it in digital art! But I doubt this person did all the steps to do all of that. And even then, you have to adjust it sometimes. Art always needs adjusting, it’s never perfect in the start.

[@Meowth_HMC]

One of the only excuses i can come up with as to why someone might be better at rendering then anatomy is because they've been coloring longer then they've been drawing. But yes all of it together is sus

[@phoebecara4361]

God I wish the only art drama was : was tracing ok? (The answer is yes

[@hmmbutwhatif]

i can tell their program (rainbow hair girl artist) is an ibispaint user based on the UI the reason why theres no undo/redo is because it cuts out that for faster speedpaint also they might not know what folders are in there and how they work (which is understandable, i took 3 years on that program to understand folders)

[@Kyuu-t6w]

Reminder: it’s not cool to pressure or bully someone for their “ai” art

[@alexwallace6904]

Reminder: it’s not cool to fake skills you don’t have with awful ai

[@Stillaliveyea]

@@alexwallace6904 so that makes it okay to pressure or bully then? Lmao u guys r more worse than these ai users

[@yaonyaon9460]

Ah yes, nothing better to do than another AI-using artist witch hunt. It would have been great if people could mind their own art and business instead of pointing fingers in suspicion all the time.

[@dalmajikkot90]

the problem is AI is using art that someone else created, so it's kinda hard to mind your business when it's your piece or art style being replicated, isn't it? 😅

[@yaonyaon9460]

@@dalmajikkot90 So which piece of hers (the lady in the video) was used exactly? If none of her artworks were obviously used, and she is not purchasing that person's art, then sorry but it's not her business. The same applies to the original TikTok user. Nowadays it's just trendy to point your finger and search for a bull hidden under any random fly. People bring out their magnifying glasses, quote ambiguous mistakes (like incorrectly drawn hands), and without any real proof for the use of AI, they incite the masses to go on a full-scale witch hunt in the hope of tearing the artist down to shreds. It's unneeded drama. It is innocent unless proven guilty and not the other way around. You can't just bully strangers, demand them to prove themselves for no apparent reason, and even go out and about to ruin their careers and ban them from certain platforms. If you don't support their work just don't buy it, like it, look at it. Simple isn't it? If you have proof that your artwork was used, or if you are a customer and want AI-free original piece of art then you can discuss in private with the artist and demand timelapse/screenshots of their art process or resolve the problem. Public trials and wanna-be online cops are a medieval-style eyesore. A random strange not connected to your work in any way shouldn't have the right and guts to demand anything from you, much less to harass you.

[@Feverm00n]

@yaonyaon9460 things posted to a public platform are the public’s business, that’s just how the internet works.

[@yaonyaon9460]

@@Feverm00n That isn't true. Posting something on the net doesn't make it everyone's business. It only makes it accessible for those who may enjoy it without obliging anyone to view and like. If you think it's fake, the style is unique and ugly, or the work is amateurish, you can simply scroll down and move forward with your life. Excessive hate, bully and shaming is unnecessary. If the majority doesn't enjoy this artist's work then he or she won't receive reactions and popularity. Contrary, if someone likes it, then who do you think you are to point out fingers and trying to correct them? To each their own. Unless you are personally stolen from or cheated in a legal transaction it's a waste of time, effort and clear lack of manners to go on the offence. It's toxic and the real reason it's a trend is because many try to earn their own popularity by putting down other artists. Instead of pursuing their own art they prefer to correct, shame, and accuse other works and artists in the hope of going viral.

[@dalmajikkot90]

@yaonyaon9460 while I agree that accusing someone without proof is not the right way to do this and there are many things in this video that could just be a beginner's mistake, there's also some that make it 100% AI (especially the irises, you can really tell by those, that's not something you do as a mistake, even if you're a beginner). but honestly I just wish all AI art had a mandatory watermark that stated it's AI. it wouldn't solve people tracing such a piece but at least would sort out some of those who just write a prompt and think they created an original art piece. I just hate the fact that we as artists spend tens of hours on a piece, only for it to be fed to AI. I know we could just stop posting our art but let's be real we all like to show off a little xD

[@Bee_siv]

I actually started drawing without a sketch but ive now changed to sketching and honestly my drawings have improved so much since changing to sketching

[@twistedreality997]

crazy how these always get like, pointed out examples that "i don't think a real artist would draw like that" like sorry but you can just look at that and immediately see that it's ai, ai "artstyle" is 100% real and it's so obvious to see, no speedpaint can save that, no need to point things out even, like it's painfully obvious at first sight and i genuinly worry for the people that need this much proof, like it's actually concerning that not everyone can just see the difference

[@Feverm00n]

Even worse somehow are the people trying to defend AI images as “art.” Dark times… lol

[@lordtelion]

Ai is definitely a problem for the art community, you need look no further than hour it divides us. But especially when it comes to young artists, please remember to 'educate, not hategate'.

[@theMrromeijn]

while shading I tend to keep to 1 layer, because I like to shade with a wet-on-wet blending setting. Can't do that on different layers, so I tend to have layers based on each blocked colour.

[@Aarbitraary]

3:11 , I think you meant to say "Manta" instead of a Manatee. It does look like a little manta popping up to say hi :>

[@JesseJM85]

Not true, some people are extremely good at rendering but are really crappy at doing actual anatomy. Some people are fantastic at coloring, but are terrible at doing lines. Different people are good at doing different things. Obviously I think this is AI as well, but I'm just saying just because someone is ridiculously good at coloring or rendering in general doesn't mean that they have the experience or the technical prowess to do really good anatomy structure.

[@jujubear9909]

Exactly. It's unfortunately difficult to tell apart sometimes and false accusations happen a lot. That's the very tragic part.

[@venyajayasundara3984]

Not me watching digital ai art vid while traditionally painting

[@algi1]

But… aren't these debunkers using AI audio???

[@KleptoKlaws]

Yeah 😭 but it is text to speech which isn’t typically a problem and it can be very useful for some people. Unless it’s like based off of a real person’s voice I don’t think it matters. Like you wouldn’t be like “oh ur anti ai but you use Siri” that’s silly

[@lildinosaur8856]

There’s no problem using AI to help you with your digital art. . . Like if you need a wood texture or a blurry background! *BUT* it’s always important to remember the 75% rule you must be responsible for 75% of the drawing. *Ai is a great TOOL but it should NOT be a one click process!!*

[@dumpaccoun_t]

12:18 omg where did u get those arm warmersss did u make them urself ? if yes , with what ? socks? theyre sooooo cute

[@etherealhatred]

We moved from AI slop to "waa waa AI" brainrot, i hate so much the art community

[@Pinkamena-lw1mp]

Im 14 and i know tracing is bad, age doesnt matter (unless youre like 9 or sum) but i knew tracing was bad and only traced once when i was 11 (i never posted anything i only traced it to get better) but i dont think their age is an excuse for their behaviour

[@yoyohayli]

Tracing to learn technique isn't bad. Tracing is also completely 100% okay if you are tracing your own previous drawing OR a photograph you took yourself. I myself will take photos of architecture or plants and then trace over them for my own art, since I took the photo myself. Tracing is bad only when you then take credit for that work someone else originally made publicly, as if you yourself did the process to make the shapes and lines rather than copying them from someone else.

[@soirema]

I think this is about adult people doing this... you shouldn't be here

[@Flutter_Aeina]

@@Pinkamena-lw1mp please don’t openly say your age online. It’s dangerous

[@ann3923]

Age absolutely does matter.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

Dont share your age so openly please. There are... Bad bad adults. Please. I had to learn the hard way.

[@Disgustedorite]

I mean. Long before ai art was a thing, I've seen highly rendered art with shit anatomy. Like, on Sagan 4 we even have an internal thing about not mistaking good rendering for good art for the sake of moderation bc we enforce minimum anatomical accuracy for canon species (as anatomical mistakes can be perpetuated in descendant species, which caused a lot of issues in the past, as far back as 2006!) and we've had issues with mods missing major errors because it was too pretty.

[@thisorthat7746]

exactly!

[@Nogardtist]

just be a ghost artist no followers no attention no problems its the best except the void is total radio silent that the only downside that gets boring

[@Animaxx010]

This is why AI is ruining everything! So fricken sad.

[@Diabolo_Dragon]

Calling it from the tumbnail, AI traced

[@sorubro2193]

May AI shaming never die