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[@crazyanastar2431]

Please don't make it a habit of people thinking no undos means it's AI. Integrated art recording in softwares usually don't record the undos, sure showing a speedpaint of the process is the norm now but don't make it a requirement of people needing to install recording software just to record the undos too. Edit: Okay a bunch of people are saying that it does and doesn't, regardless some hour speedpaints get compressed and the undos get too fast to see unless you got 500 fps vision. AND some only record erasing and I think some of you people are mistaking those for undos.

[@V4mpDxwn]

right? its honestly so annoying that she needs to be reminded almost every video, she never bothers to learn nor care to inform the information

[@aggroblu9753]

@@V4mpDxwnI think she states in every one of these videos that “no undo isn’t always an immediate indicator” and is very cautious in how she informs us what might be ai tracing.

[@DmadPs]

Shes not talking about undos, she was talking about editing

[@WolfLover617]

Procreate and Krita record undone actions.

[@evannotoven]

@crazyanastar2431 even so. There are no adjustments ever. No edits, no erasing, no clarifying sketches before linesrt. No one just knows exactly what colors to use, especially when there is complex lighting that affects every color in the piece. But she also takes note of which drawing program it is before she comments on things pertaining to the program such as recordered undos.

[@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM]

For the speedpaints you dont see them undo anything because the speedpaint doesnt save the undoes

[@我看你ash]

Maybe not ur drawing software but my csp saved and showed my undos.

[@vvv8392]

@@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM some* speed paints. Clip studio paint shows the undo’s

[@xl24ko]

⁠@@我看你ashplenty softwares do not show undos

[@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM]

@@我看你ash unlikely that person used csp

[@CheshAmeoba]

@@我看你ashyeah like pretty sure procreate does not show undo in speedpaints

[@Archimedes-v2o]

It’s so sad that artists are being limited to a certain scope with their art, because now, even if you’re just being abstract, others will think it looks weird and think that it’s automatically AI. I wish AI art didn’t exist..

[@maxnami]

I'm pretty sure that even if AI didn't exist, envy skill less people would still accuse that artist for "Tracing - photobashing - copying".

[@kraangprime]

AI is one thing. It is a problem. But at the end of the day, it is how people chose to handle it that makes the entire situation just unbearable. Publicly shaming and starting witch-hunts right away instead of communicating, that's the biggest issue I see here.

[@Archimedes-v2o]

@@maxnami understandable, but AI art is more hated and has more merit than just one person being jealous

[@chaken6187]

@@maxnamiTracing - photobashing - copying were already primarily annoying things that artists have to deal with already, now the world added one more thing that is much more annoying than those three combined… and almost no artist had been ready to deal with it…

[@kuri_curry]

Same, it wouldn't be a problem if it just didn't exist. :/

[@Pink_G0atHoove]

Am I the only person who thinks this video is really… well there’s no nice way to put it, stupid. she doesn’t mention any points about how some apps don’t record undo there’s no mistakes in the art. The background is perfectly clear. You can tell what everything is. This kind of feels like she made it literally just to post a video. I don’t mean to be rude, but I feel like there were so many points missed out that could’ve explained so many things. :/

[@deraequalist]

Exactly that. Several people commented that already, but I'll have to say it, too: I'm a traditional artist, I never drew digital art. If I draw eyes and hands most of the time it fits, that is because I practiced it over 10,000 times by now (I'm 23 started drawing since 5 yo). It's also normal for me to draw chunk by chunk. That's the traditional way of painting. If you doodle you also do chunk by chunk and don't add lines all over the paper. Videos like that convince me to never start drawing digitally at all. The artist deleted their profile because of the bullying. Instead of trying to find reasons why the artist doesn't use AI, the youtube creator here just tries to find reasons why it's Ai, contradictory to her statement before. Kinda sad.

[@ileamonster]

No you're right it's extremely stupid

[@horuma78]

Agree, the accusation seems baseless. "Artists usually don't do this or don't do that" as if having a different render or drawing process is a crime. Saying the color isn't matching the character despite having strong lighting and pale shades as an artistic choice. People are now nitpicking an artist's work just because it's not up to their standard of what artist usually do. It's normal for an artist to make mistakes, especially when they're still learning.

[@random_d00d]

Yeah, I'm 5 minutes in and I was hoping they'd explain how this artist isn't in fact AI, but from the comments it seems like she isn't convinced that it is 100% not AI. Already from the sketch alone I can tell it's most likely a real artist's

[@duvetboa]

Its a ragebait channel. Report first, fact check later. I agree it's dumb.

[@skullystars]

Please please please I beg don’t add the no undos argument into it being AI. My program doesn’t show my undos and looks similar to this Speedpaint and being accused of AI can genuinely be career ruining

[@whinnybobo]

Do people think it's impossible to draw hands like that? I drew a hand yesterday with no construction, using my own hand as a reference. It's not really that difficult to do when you have a reference, lol.

[@RysArtCorner]

I do that too, it's actually quite easy

[@Xxsorafan]

Same if I want something more stylized I’ll go with a blob to line art over separating it into more shapes

[@NyNyNator]

True, and if you have enough experience, it works even without a reference. I often just go from BLOBB to complete hand (sometimes I struggle more, sometimes less, but it's possible).

[@Kiras_Megalomania1994]

Ehhh, I've always struggled with hands personally and I've had to redraw them multiple times to get them right. I've only ever gotten them perfect on the first try once or twice. It may just be something that varies from artist to artist.

[@Allyfyn]

Not impossible to draw them like that, it probably looks off though. The other hand in the drawing had a joint that was wayy off too, that kind of thing shouldn't happen with someone experienced using their own hand as a reference.

[@Dweebfalls]

I’m kinda aggravated because I feel that this definitely is not ai? I do think they are genuinely talented

[@JulieEnha]

They are def talented, but the thing that makes me think ai is used in the process is the drawing with hair strands that have 2 ends. That could be their style but it really threw me off

[@newtwalder4521]

​@JulieEnha Actually a lot of artists do that

[@anapple6912]

idk man, shaky lines and light inner lines of the forms like the brick walls or the shine in the Caldrone arent really an intermediate artist who seems to draw like they understand what they are doing nor does it match the coloring (maybe they skimped on the other fundamentals and moved onto colors rather than line confidence), espically when you compare with their previous art works. who know maybe she/he had a good tempo (aka one of those days when you somehow know how to draw) the details the brick oven arent really cohesive in the sense of drawing it. when you draw something, you structure it (unless you have a great mind full of imagination like that one korean artist) the brain likes to understand why or how things work. the sketch looks like one of those coloring books apps... but i guess innocent until proven guilty, right?

[@avery4818]

"AI investigating" is getting so sad. most of the shit being claimed as "AI traits" is just artistic choice or basic program functionality.

[@coralcat3474]

Her process looks exactly like mine. And i dont use AI. The blob hand to full hand especially. Sone artists can see certain things they practice better in their mind and will roughly block something out because they do infact already know what that is going to look like. Especially if you do practices upon practices. I actually love drawing hands. To me they are super easy. This process and artwork look standard. But because artists sometimes make mistakes no matter how hard you practice, i dont think the backward hand was ai either. Especially considering her process is "draw block- fill in with hand" it could've led to her own confusion. PS: Some programs like IbisX (the program I use) do not record undos. It records erases - but not undo.

[@nosygamer7662]

Ye! I have been drawing with pen a lot so I usually can just draw everything from a blobby sketch. Sometimes….. it backfires badly but I can just draw a lot of things straight away.

[@SassyCatsArt]

I 100% draw rectangles and then figure out the hand in another sketch as I do detail and then I finalize my hands in the line art and adjust it if it doesn't look right after

[@Allyfyn]

The other hand in the pot drawing had a joint that was way off. No artist of that skill level would do the hand like that.

[@kasimselamat967]

i never draw a blob or anything to make the hand- i just draw it and it somehow make sense 😞

[@Shu_K_]

@Allyfyn hey have we forgotten how hard hands are to draw????? like before ai everyone talked about how hard hands are to draw....

[@eveewinfir9589]

I don't think this "hair don't do this" is valid as a clue. Literally every artist i saw do hair like that. It is a pretty common style. I do it myself :\\

[@DoveJS]

You draw hair sticking to tiny background balloons because of static?

[@eveewinfir9589]

@@DoveJS not exactly that one but I think it does look weird since I've been accused of using AI sometimes :v but since I made art myself I can just show it 😅 So I really don't think that "weird hair behavior" can be used as proff. Indicator, sometimes, yes, but not much more than that

[@DoveJS]

​ @eveewinfir9589 Yeah I mean that's honestly true. A lot of the things that are mistakes in AI tend to be either complex and easy to mess up, design choices, or things a lot of beginners might get wrong. Someone else in another comment pointed out that the rate of progress is a much better indicator and even then it's a matter of context (like how long ago they actually made it and if their mistakes are consistent I guess IDK lol.) In general, I don't think the AI discernment is incredibly useful but people are looking for it because Gen AI and companies pushing it's use so hard has made them suspicious of most things. In particular, that Gen AI can create photographs and people have to be wary of DeepFakes is what I think is pushing this AI hunt. No one wants to be lied to. Plus many artists are rightly afraid and uncertain. The Wealth Gap will only increase exponentially if Gen AI output can be copyrighted. These companies' actual goal is to remove all artists and other creative workers from the final production of content. If they can convince everyone else to simply accept this result as inevitable, then the companies get all of the profits while artists struggle for wealthy patrons or work in the dataset mines. We need to focus more on activism that actually helps, not hurts. It's hard to know what beyond fighting for strong regulation.

[@eveewinfir9589]

@@DoveJS indeed!! I saw it happening myself. I work to a HUGE company and they do "study materials" for us. Usually they have illustrations on it, humans photos or art The last three months I was shocked to notice that they are using AI to generate those things now. And I'm not even talking about illustrations 👁👁 they are generating HUMANS photos. They could just pay a model, or even ask the workers to take photos but noooo That's very very sad. I particularly was very happy about the idea of illustrate to them, and get some pennies from it :v but now... it's all AI Honestly the sad part is that I'm the only one who's upset with that. Nobody cares... The art community work hard, but in the end of the day the biggest part of the population don't even care. Always go with: - there are three arms on the picture. The eyes makes no sense. This is melting into that. - and so?? 😩 it is so frustrating

[@DoveJS]

​ @eveewinfir9589 Globally we've become somewhat complacent because these companies successfully branded all new technology and automation as necessary and we don't notice the truth until it directly affects us. Their ultimate goal is for the 1% to get everything they want and need without having to deal with any filthy, unnecessary human who's beneath them. The wealthy desire to live in complete isolation with only a handful of humans that they're forced to acknowledge by relation or legal partnership. Any other humans will be treated like livestock, their resources extracted until demise. It sounds dystopian but that's already how the world works if we consider global exploitation, the current state of the poor, and the dwindling middle class. We've gone from nations to corporations in subtler colonial empires.

[@lcvekty]

I paint in same way and have had my work called 'ai'. I learnt to paint at university with oil paintings, and have done many. I paint section by section too. I transferred that method over to digital and now because of the way I paint, people call it ai. I use the grid method on procreate, the same as I would on a canvas (I also still paint with oils too)!

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

Yeah, people used to painting traditionally or without relying on adjustment layers can block in colors pretty well too. Plus people copying another image without much skill usually work on a white background and start with the face.

[@SamaDrawsGirls]

I do paint/color like that sometimes especially in traditional art

[@AliKottLett]

i rly dont get how it looks ai to some people, i also draw traditionaly (but with alcohol markers), the pens i use for lineart smudge really badly so i do the colors first and then make out the details nd lineart and sometimes draw over it all with some pencils which often covers up the lineart, and in digital i often do the same way, colors, lineart and details and then paint over anything id want to fix

[@anapple6912]

yeah but surely some adjustments are made along the way?

[@idkwhattonamemyselfsoyeah]

Don't be discouraged. Ai "art" looks like that because it stole from people like you

[@NightyMarei]

Im only five minutes into the video right now, but i do kinda have something to say. I personally use ibis so it probably isnt the same, but ibis timelapses dont show undos. I also tend to (personally) completely undo sketches or whatever else that i dont like. Not sure about any other program though lol. Edit: apparently csp does record undos? Theres a lot of conflicting comments, so im not sure. The only options i can think of from here is either: They arent using csp (not sure why they would lie about that) Or they are tracing/using AI (Which i am very weary to believe, seeing what literally just happened.)

[@leagin]

clip studio paint which they claim to use also doesn’t show undos. if you want to criticise an artist time lapse then at least have knowledge on what the time lapse has been recorded on.

[@hifzurrahman5315]

@leagincsp does show undos tho

[@我看你ash]

@leagincsp shows undos, maybe u dint use it, but they do, I even did a mini sketch to prove all the people in this comment section saying they don’t wrong..I even looked at my previous art and they show undos..sorry bud but ur wrong

[@aurami777]

they arent using CSP. I've checked their whole acc, they use IBIS but say CSP due to the "hide layer" thing not being a thing on CSP but is on IBIS is my guess

[@mossy_tylenol_dot_exe]

@@aurami777i might be wrong but i use ibis paint and have never heard of that feature in there/lh

[@mikuumelody]

hiiii!!! ibispaint X user here! the artist in the video that kat is reviewing is using ibispaint X, a drawing app that I’m VERY familiar with! I know the artist claims to use csp, but it’s actually ibispaint X, and I know this from the "support a small artist" tiktoks that are shown from the beginning ibispaint X does not record every single undo you do, so in this instance, "no undos" can’t be a reasonable reason I can use my very own speedpaints as an example of this! in my akita neru speedpaint, you can see me begin a pose then you see me undo, undo, undo, and start a different pose, then I continue with that pose for the rest of the speedpaint in my speedpaint where I draw eyes, you see me just draw the eyes with "no undos" (but I actually did a lot of undos in that speedpaint! ibispaint just never showed them) this artist likely did undo a lot in their speedpaint, but ibispaint didn’t show them ibispaint only shows your undos if your mistakes lead to a huge part of the speedpaint that you undid (my akita neru speedpaint) ibispaint does not show your undos if they’re small little mistakes (my pair of eyes speedpaint) TL;DR: ibispaint X (the program the artist is actually using) doesn’t usually record undos, and I doubt the artist featured in this video is actually using ai… their art looks legitimate to me thank you for reading! edit: people are telling me that the miku one looks ai I somewhat agree? but here’s why I don’t fully agree - you can’t hide layers in ibispaint X to hide tracing of an image, so them using ai is highly unlikely - the 01 looks good - everything in the art looks pretty intentional to me, other than her skirt writing, but I personally think it’s a stylistic choice like the writing on papyrus’s chest from undertale I can guarantee you toby fox did not use ai to create papyrus’s sprite

[@Ghost-F-cker]

they are using ai in some of it like the Miku one. if you draw that well then it shouldn't be like that lmao some of it might be real and some might be just ai used in a little bit (as they said its prob real in some cases but some of it looks like ai might have been used) and it probably has like Miku's hair and stuff-

[@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM]

@Ghost-F-cker wdym? Even professionals still have to undo

[@Allyfyn]

It looks legitimate to you because you don't have much experience looking at AI Art that shows the tendencies of AI. You can't learn what someone using AI looks like just by knowing what real art looks like.

[@espopstar]

As someone who uses IbisPaintX too, I also found it odd when she said (including the last video) that it looks traced, because you _can't_ hide layers in it the way procreate lets you. I think IbisPaint makes it really hard to actually hide tracing in speedpaints.

[@mikuumelody]

@Allyfyn I’ve been an artist for 10 years, I know what ai art looks like… I didn’t finish the video because I saw the first one and was like "yeah that’s not ai" and didn’t bother to finish it. the miku one is probably ai because of the lines that’s meant to be the writing on her skirt, but then again, it could be stylistic because papyrus from undertale has writing on his chest exactly like that and we know toby fox didn’t use ai to create undertale sprites I’m more inclined to think that none of the pieces are ai because, first of all, it doesn’t look ai to me overall, everything looks intentional other than the writing on the skirt, and second of all, you can’t hide an image on ibispaint X speedpaints, which makes me think the speedpaints are all legitimate

[@lissipissi]

this genuinly looks like a human artist to me. other artists REALLY should stop accusing everyone of using ai for the most random stuff, it hurts the community SO much. there are programs that dont show the undos in the speedpaint and honestly them deleting their account to me honestly only shows they were just bullied. i literally dont see any huge AI evidences. Rendering chunk by chunk is completely normal for a painting type art style since you wanna mix the colours with each other and not neccessarily with other objects so it can be alot easier to just do that so i dont think thats the problem tbh. I always finish one part and then move on to the next one when try to do painting like art. also miku has so many versions idk if the outfit being slightly off is a smoking gun haha

[@SkylerChui]

I thought so too, until I saw the account. I agree that the undos, Miku outfit, and painting chunk by chunk- are not good points to bring up as “this is AI”; however there are alot of other signs that are more blatantly AI to me. I made a lengthy comment on this video explaining why I think so. Ultimately I believe she CAN draw, and knows how to render- but uses ai heavily in her workflow.

[@Archimedes-v2o]

Tbf, it looks a lot like the AI style

[@lissipissi]

@Archimedes-v2o ai is Trained off of Real art and there currently are countless styles ai can recreate

[@Archimedes-v2o]

@lissipissi I know, but AI is usually done with anime art models

[@lissipissi]

@Archimedes-v2o yea but it's not really a good argument i think, cause wouldnt that mean anyone with an anime art style is using AI? :/

[@cranefish-q5w]

I feel like just saying "please don't send hate towards the artist" doesn't really do anything to prevent people from hating on the artist when you make an entire video speculating on whether they use AI or not. As you have mentioned, you are not even sure yourself if the artist themself is using AI. I am firmly against using AI in art as an illustrator myself but I feel as though making speculations when you aren't 100% sure is going to do more harm than good because on speculation alone you might have already sent hate to the artist by even suggesting that they have used AI.

[@tiedyegirl2170]

Then what should she say? No matter what she says someone is gonna bully that artist. Like should she stop making art news?

[@cranefish-q5w]

@@tiedyegirl2170 Perhaps it is just better to gather more evidence/sources before reporting on something that may damage someone's reputation in the community forever. If a news piece is that impactful shouldn't it warrant a more careful approach? And if there are no more further evidence then maybe it isn't something worth talking about in the first place.The internet is quick to jump on something on pure speculation especially if it's brought up by a content creator with an audience.

[@tiedyegirl2170]

@@cranefish-q5w as quickly as people jumps on something the quicker people forget about it. The news is hot now but no one will remember in six months. The artist can always rebrand or try a different technique.

[@InstantH-mm4cq]

​@@tiedyegirl2170 If you got cancelled and lost everything for using AI when you know you didn’t, would you even bother coming back knowing it could happen again tomorrow?

[@Nyomaa]

How is it her fault if people attack rhe artist? She said not to, that’s all she can do

[@edgarallanmendozacampos29]

Some traditional art techniques require you to work in chunks and already know the lighting beforehand, it's natural to bring traditional techniques to digital. sometimes going from digital to traditional is the opposite effect, you want to make layers... but these don't exist, there's no going back xD Also the way CSP summarizes speedpaints is weird

[@Blindsyouwithsun]

Can we realize one thing, people accused of ai (not all) could be the ones stolen from the most BY AI?

[@Your20droid]

This!

[@mikeparradise9333]

No, it doesnt work that way

[@ravensmoonlight]

@@mikeparradise9333 ...yes, it does?

[@Fifasher2K]

​@@mikeparradise9333 More of the similar works you will feed to AI, more likely it will create something similar to that.

[@ExhaustedSleeping]

I'm not three minutes in yet, but by the looks of it, the artist is using an app called ibis paint, which doesn't have hidden/private layers like procreate and it automatically records the drawing process on a canvas, you'd just have to export it. They'd have to cut out pieces of the speedpaint to hide the ai usage

[@meat3958]

The artist *says* they’re using ibspaint, but they drop all evidence of their program out of their “speedpaints” as is mentioned in the video, we’re essentially “taking their word for it,” until they provide real proof of an uncropped piece being sketched that includes their program, painting and rendering. Certain pictures they’ve “drawn” are painfully AI, like the miku with loopy hair, even beginners don’t make mistakes like that on that scale. Literal beginners lol 👍

[@ExhaustedSleeping]

@meat3958 They only way they could prove that they use Ibis paint is if they screenshot the open canvas with the whole app set up or screen record the art process without cropping. But recently if you don't pay for the app, there's a water mark from ibis paint in the bottom right corner of the speed paint, I dunno about if you pay for premium though.

[@meat3958]

@ correct, which would immediately prove that the speed paint is their own, specifically because of those features 👍 so yeah, that’s exactly what they should do, or forever be known as a fraud who uses AI generation to produce a good chunk of their artwork

[@ExhaustedSleeping]

@@meat3958 They probably won't drop evidence though but idk I'm not super active on a lot of socials.

[@labyrinth2008]

girl ik this is how your making money but for the love of god leave artists alone

[@HOGSLICE1]

Fr

[@andrewsugarola]

YES

[@ShifterBo1]

RIGHT? Its all AI AI AI! OMG SHUT- we know, stop It

[@HyliaFell]

Right as you said "We don't see this artist undoing anything or fixing anything" I was watching a piece of the cloak being painted and then changed around to give it a different type of fold because the artist didn't like how that one looked. The sketch as well being "Perfect from the get-go" is not uncommon either. Some artists are smart enough to know they save a ton of time to ensure their sketch looks perfect before doing lines or colors. I am not one of those artists, I constantly rush it and then have to go back in and fix it because I'm a stubborn AH. You also need to realize that 1) Most art programs that include the ability to record do not record undos 2) Most of them also show the whole image zoomed out to be seen in full and won't include the rotations and zoom-ins for detailing the artist actually does The background's sketch looks like it might have been a real photo at sometime thrown into a photoshop or clipstudio action to pull the lines and contours, which is another thing a lot of artists did before ai and still do. The line in the jar isn't a crack, it's likely showing where glare/light is intended to go later, which is a technique used a lot in different styles of anime art. You comment about them knowing where things are going to go too much, but that's exactly why that method is done that way. You can see it better if you ever look at animation cels for anime. It's mapped out for accuracy. Can you please stop trying to go after artists? Everyone has different processes and methods and that doesn't = ai. You're just harassing them at this point and it's cringe af seeing you constantly say "I don't draw anime art, I'm not a professional artists, but I'm going to give my opinions as if I were." Literally the 2nd image you showed is just a paint-over, which is again, something a ton of artists do. Some artists also map out their base colors on their initial sketch so they can see if the colors/lighting/composition will work.

[@eCodex]

yes, i was really taken aback by that as well re: the form/depth mapping lines being called a "crack" or "third handle". its an incredibly common technique in traditional illustration, comics, etc. like... what??? its how *i* was taught to draw back in middle school (very fortunately). and TIL that's apparently NOT the 101 i thought it was. i don't have any social media or follow any artists, and especially as a late adopter to digital art (and general luddite) i never warmed up to sharing my work online. i have a really specific style that i know would be side-eyed a bit as probably AI-involved if people ever ran across it... and those techniques are specifically because of how insulated i've been from digital art circles like: time lapse? screen recording? no clue. being expected to start your "proof" video from a blank page? WTF. this video is so irresponsible & uninformed ETA: omg madokas hair is "brown" because it's pink with mixed sepia bloom & lighting over the whole image.... thats not AI, that's colour theory. i feel so so bad for this artist, i hope they continue their craft offline

[@ElectricPopness]

I feel like the ending of your comment wasn’t needed, she’s not really going after artists but instead taking opinions from other people and putting it into one big explanation This art creator that she’s talking about in the video has apparently definitely used Ai, it’s not been said for a whole piece but people have said they definitely have used ai for small bits

[@eCodex]

@@ElectricPopness she's going through a screen recording and picking it apart without knowing the actual techniques involved in how/why certain decisions are made. "people have said", "it's been said"-who? are those people the artist themselves or a direct collaborator? would YOU want a start to finish recording of a piece of yours put on a large creators platform and have it scrutinised for every "imperfection" and lapse of brushstroke, and have dozens (if not hundreds) of people crash your socials claiming you're faking? because that's what you're participating in here

[@schizo.fungai]

The ending of your comment wasn’t really needed. She’s not ‘going after artist’. At the beginning of the video, people had suspicions and brought it up to her, not that she scoured for it herself. She’s just looking into what people brought up to her, and giving what her opinion is from what she sees. She didn’t say the artist used only AI, and she wasn’t hating on the artist, she even thought the artist was talented. She just said *some* of the pieces *could* have been heavily referenced or traced off of AI (keyword, COULD. Not IS.). As an artist myself, I can kind of see it, but I don’t know for sure so I’m not going to say anything.

[@coradosart]

Undo isn't always clicking on undo, guys. Undo is also: Deleting layers. Seleting huge chunks. Resizing parts. Rearranging parts. Just overall correcting yourself!

[@yankee7238]

Some of yall rlly out here thinking its a game to identify AI art. I love the concept behind it because we want to protect artists, but PLEASE. Blatantly accusing them and trying to find ways to accuse them is extremely rude. Why are me limiting their skills ? Artists with amazing hand eye coordination can draw hands and plot facial features perfectly so i dont feel that their sketch was ai. I feel like many artists or many people feel that is fake because they cannot comprehend that different artists have different skills and art processes. And the artist is going out of her way to post her speedpaint and art process to debunk it. I hate to think about how they must feel now, being driven to a corner by people accusing them about every single minute detail and trying to pick apart their art. Plus it sucks that now artist’s having unique art styles or making stylistic choices can be accused as AI because ‘typical artists do this’ or ‘normally this this this is like that’ like ffs artists are unique in their own way..

[@NeneChanne]

I don’t see any issues with the details on Miku. the tie clips could’ve easily been forgotten, the little strap could’ve also been forgotten. the gold detailing could just be a color pallet choice since the colors are so vibrant and watery, and the blue part on top of her sleeve could also just be a color choice. She doesn’t have to be drawn to perfection

[@BellaLemonn]

Also Miku has had a lot of minor design changes. For project diva miku the skirt details are yellow/gold and has the blue thing on her sleeve. PJSK miku for example has the blue on the top of her sleeve and doesn't have the strap thing on her skirt. I can see why the art could be AI but she's just nitpicking things she knows nothing about atp. If she didn't know Miku's design I wish she would at least search it up instead of just blindly saying something is wrong/missing.

[@Erideah]

Seems legitimate to me, kind of reminiscent of really good artists in the early days of learning digital from traditional. Of course, we can't rule out AI use--we kind of have to live in a future where we won't be able to be sure without super advanced live streaming setups for the entire process--and I'm very much for innocent until proven guilty, even in social contexts

[@berryblue365]

to be fair, that "chunk" style of rendering is how traditional painters paint, so if someone has a background in painting they could be used to that method

[@AliKottLett]

yeah i see it often on my fyp on tik tok when someone is making an oil painting or similar, usually just blobs and then making out the details in chunks

[@mtotheitothectotheh]

I used to enjoy ur videos. but lately all I hear is. I can't do that, and a lot of artists dont do that. so could be ai. even when u mention the artist could be just a genius artist, u kept giving random numbers like 99.99 percent of the artists do that. may be only call out ai when you are 99.99 percent sure?

[@ileamonster]

Yeah if you look at her own art it's clear she's not experienced in intensive artwork at all, so her understanding is limited and flawed and frankly it's a bad look

[@missm0ka]

Like other people said some programs cut out undos in the speedpaint. I honestly don't think this person is using ai. It sucks that people are so quick to go after them. With the context of programs cutting out undos, I think it very much does look like just an artists process

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

Yeah there’s just not enough here to accuse the artist of using ai. The process seems normal. I know artists that use the undo button heavily and don’t do a lot of extra sketching. Plus the guidelines on the head are correct. Someone just tracing would have a hard time drawing cross-contours correctly

[@Vallderius]

Regarding the Madoka piece, the hair looks more rose gold than brown, it just looks like the lighting made everything more beige coloured. The objects that are a strong almost reddish colour in Madoka's original design now are the same colour as her hair (less red), which means that obviously the hair is also going to look less red (less pink in its case because it wasn't that red to begin with). Also the foot is there, it just looks lighter because it's in the background and it's normal to do that. The shadow in the floor could just be that her feet are together and the shadow is fused (not so sure about this tbh, it actually just looks like they made a mistake). And also, seeing how they draw the hands immediately it wouldn't surprise me if they use their own hands as reference and used the wrong one (has happened to me before, and sometimes when you realise the mistake it's too late or you just go with it because it's not that noticeable and don't want to go through the pain of fixing it, specially if it's just something you did for fun and not a commission or smth)

[@CollourCrow]

my opinion is that this ISNT AI. i dont see why poeple woud think it is. edit 12:46 i dont see this as proper efidence becous i ones did the same whing with my REAL art. i made a fake scecth that looked worse than my normal sketch just for more ingagement. they just put a bit of colour in there sketch to make it look bether to get more ingagement. this artist is just realy talantet

[@cuteygooki]

This is not AI. I hope she didn’t delete her account because of people falsely accusing her of AI. That’s just sad and disrespectful to a good artist

[@Beepbeepbeep12]

it 100 percent is, do yall forget ai "artists" arent gonna parade around the fact they use ai and try to hide it as best they can?

[@BEN-o9l]

So, you are telling me the artist mastered Realistic painting and anime style painting in a 6-month period.

[@smella1057]

She is generating an AI image then copying it.

[@allura9163]

@@BEN-o9l if they were already an artist before switching to digital art they ABSOLUTELY could.

[@BEN-o9l]

​ @allura9163 I am a traditional artist. In my first digital art, I knew my theory, correct lines and values. So even on digital, my art looked traditional but not complete beginner. It was just a different medium and process but not so different in fundamentals. So, there is no way the artist was already a professional or intermediate traditional artist because his/her art before 6 month was a complete beginner and after 6 months, is complete professional.

[@SkylerChui]

I will say their Timelapse for this one isn’t a huge red flag, but after looking at their page I’m convinced AI has been used. They showed their process on traditional art and you can tell the skill level is significantly different than their digital work. Not in terms of just rendering, but knowledge in anatomy, lighting, and composition. Breakdown: - her AI work uses a very high-key palette (this means the painting contains values mostly in the light tone range, with shadows in the mid tones) - the color variations are very advanced, seamless transitions. Similar to Ruan Jia’s artwork. Her real work primarily uses monotone color variations similar to most beginners - her “New OC” post has a REALLY messed up arm anatomy. Like, it’s not something you’d mess up if you’re able to draw hands as well as the Timelapse in this KZbin video. - her traditional work is very lowkey palette. Over using shadow tones (shown in her still life drawings) also a very typical beginner mistake - her 2024-06-06 painting has typical beginner artist palette, similar to someone discovering gradient maps. - her 2024-06-16 painting suddenly has well balanced lighting hues and values while using the paint-by-section technique. - her Madoka Magika Fanart. The character’s left hand has the thumb on the other side. The biggest give away is their artist vs art post. It’s blatantly obvious. Also their improvement from 2024-06-04 to 2024-06-16 is INSANE. People CAN reach that level of improvement, but not within 12 days. How do I think she’s using AI (multiple ways for multiple posts): 1. She generates an AI image, traces it while hiding the reference in procreate, and color picks the correct colours. 2. She doesn’t trace, but references her generated AI image on a separate screen. This one will have shaky lines, unlike the traced version. 3. For realism work, she paints over the generated AI image in huge blocks, then shows the process of painting the fine details over it. Overall I believe she’s an art student, and has the ability to draw. But heavily relies on AI for her workflow. If ever in doubt, look at progress not process.

[@DoveJS]

That's a very good point. And the progress could be excused if the description says things like "I did this xx/xx/xxxx or number of months or years ago and it may or may not be on another site that I posted to back then" but taken altogether without any additional contextual information, if it seems like they've progressed much faster than should be humanly possible, they're clearly doing something that involves another image or a photograph, whether from another artist/photographer or Gen AI. Of course, most people who aren't examining every single piece, doing the calculations, and knowledgeable enough to understand the growth and how reasonable it might be wouldn't know what to judge by. I also frankly just feel bad, on some level, for the artists who are trying to work with AI because all of these companies are pushing it on everyone who uses technology while the tech bros keep insisting to get onboard or be left behind (even though all of them will get left behind because the entire point was for corporations to remove jobs and living wages for constant increase of profits in every single job sector and they've been doing this for centuries) yet a lot of people dislike and distrust AI and understandably most artists are irritated and dismissive of it's usage. They're stuck in a bad middle-ground and getting conflicting responses (some people don't care while others care a whole heck of a lot.) I'm not saying they should use AI or that this automatically makes using it better or okay, it's a very complex and frustrating situation, especially if they were duped into spending money, but it's another way to divide and conquer as I see it. Corporations are pure evil, regardless of what they give us. The entire system needs to be torn down and rebuilt without the 1% getting in the way. If only... but I guess setting regulations and keeping them from sucking up every ounce of water and energy across the globe to exploit humanity and destroy every ecosystem will at least be a good first step.

[@Nicky-mz1co]

They very well could be using AI but that’s how I am personally with digital to traditional art. If you saw my traditional vs digital you’d think they were made by not only two different people, but two different people with completely different skill sets. After I moved to digital the only traditional drawings I would do was little doodles on schoolwork. I neglected it completely. I’ve just now, years after starting digital art, gone back to traditional. (Pretty much right where I left off skill wise.) When it comes to drawing anatomy digitally you have a lot more tools. Like the lasso or liquify tool. It’s much easier to fix any inaccuracies. I can’t say the same for this artist but everyone’s art process and art skills are going to vary with each medium. Unfortunately I don’t think they’ll be a definitive way in her art process to determine if she used AI or not, as many artists have very similar art processes to hers

[@bullshitfood9204]

@@Nicky-mz1coshe 100% used ai. On her more detailed/realistic bigger drawings she refuses to show speedpaints. And instead kept showing her drawing on paper. Instead of just showing the speedpaint. And for one that was very obviously ai (the face) she showed her painting the hair and not the ai portion.

[@thanasikotsiopoulos1567]

For some reason most of the other comments say the artist hasn't used AI and I'm not sure about how speed paints work but... At 14:55 the floor pattern is very inconsistent. I don't know much about Madoka Magica, however, the floor just screams too needlessly detailed to be rushed & doesn't add to the perspective. As AI lacks intention, and tends to mess up patterns, I think AI has to have been used in the process of making their art.

[@gabagooze]

This isnt ai to me at all, just nitpicking. Like saying "where did Madokas pigtail go? Shes meant to have two, she has one!" ...as a giant ribbon is running through the entire piece to show her hair is coming undone???? Also saying her hair is brown and her dress isnt pink at all in the drawing when the coloring palette/lighting choices are so clearly akin to a sepia filter. She is clearly still "peachy" in color to me, therefore pink. And as others have stated, many apps don't show undos. Stop using that as an indicator of ai. I usually agree with you but this video is a miss for me.

[@Gh0sttt1337]

What about her weird ass tiny baby hand where the perspective is completely off and it shouldn't be THAT small, or the fact that everything is melting together? You really think the same person that made the Renaissance painting made the other artworks? The faces on that painting are gorgeous, meanwhile the madoka piece has a goofy ass looking fish bowl expression. There's just no way the same person made those 2 pieces lol

[@gabagooze]

@ None of it is melting together, and the tiny backwards hand looks like human error lol

[@animetibs]

there are so many instances of clear AI being used on the internet, I wish you wouldn’t use your platform to continue bullying campaigns on genuine artists. the user deleted their account and this video is still up despite the comments explaining to you why this video is incorrect and harmful. just disappointing…

[@e-diot_]

While there's nothing inherently wrong with being skeptical or nitpicky about an artwork, i think it's equally important for us to approach everything with a neutral attitude. I've seen many AI accusations thrown around lately and innocent artists catching strays, all because some peoole decided to be a moral busybody while having little to no context or sufficient technical knowledge to be able to tell if something involves the use of AI or not.

[@floralvindicate]

This absolutely doesnt look like Ai.

[@annab4931]

This really looks like not AI art to me, the hair on the miku piece looks intentional to me. I dont like that AI has taken away our ability to add beautiful surreal elements like crazy swirly hair without being accused of using AI. You can tell by her trad art that she is INSANELY talented. Also a lot of artists (me included) study realism or did realism first to improve their stylised art. I have art which is realistic and art which us super stylised anime. I dont think that should be seen as strange.

[@Beepbeepbeep12]

well ive seen other ai users be great at traditional so..

[@SimeonsBF]

I’m surprised no one in your chat pointed out that certain apps don’t record undos. I didn’t know until I saw the comments but that’s def good to consider.

[@N3rvosa]

6:10 everything in this section I feel is very wrong, and doesn't indicate ai. I've seen many artists sketch out the shine placement, hair parting, and extra reflections in glass. Especially if they go from sketch -> airbrushed/hinted flat color -> complete render, as it helps to mark out those kinds of things in the sketch so you don't have to fiddle around in the rendering process

[@AugieLN]

just because you cant do it doesn't mean you have to be an art god the greatest of all time to do it. their painterly style doesn't have a focus on the line art so those random lines you were seeing were indeed for lighting indicators. doing the hands on the first try like that is something people do but also, she didn't even get the hands right all that good and they are simplified so its not even that crazy! on the painting part you said they got it right on the first go but you just weren't looking because I saw them re adjust colors several times! I get that you have a very frequent upload schedule but making videos like this sends hate to the artists and you clearly have some blind spots for some of this stuff so get a second opinion and do some more due diligence before posting stuff like this.

[@Kalmiiaaa]

Idk about this one. My art process is almost 1-1 to theirs from sketching to rendering. I also tend to do a big blocky shape for the hands and then go directly into super detailed “perfect” hands. I also am generally pretty good at placing eyes correctly the first time (granted i’ve been an artist for nearly 8 years). However, the lineart does feel a little strange for part of their overall art process, especially considering many of the lines feel unconfident and there’s almost no line weight variation. The environmental lighting is strange too. This is a tough one, but i am leaning a little more into this being ai. However I don’t think the process is the defining aspect of it being ai. I think it’s a culmination of all these strange bits and pieces.

[@SaikoThorns]

This isnt AI. This is an experienced artist. Obviously experienced artists arent going to make as many mistakes, but this AI cancel culture is getting ridiculous. "Theres no undos" there literally is, I can see them. Do I need to make my own video to POINT THEM OUT? They have a painterly style, a style thats a go with the flow work ethic. Their art doesnt have extreme anatomical mistakes, and the lighting isnt off. Dont spread hate. Yes AI isn't cool, but when its to this degree that we are attacking artists because it "looks like ai", it gets ridiculous. Unless someone is trying to profit off of ai, I don't see why we need to spread hate to people just trying to create and share their ideas. We need to stop this. Even artists use AI to give them character design ideas

[@SaikoThorns]

"Born with emense natural talent" They are experienced. They've done enough studies to know how a hand is shaped, not everyone needs to struggle the same way. I find this video is spreading misinformation and unnecessary. It's giving a horrible perspective to how art should be, and putting so much expectations on artists. On one hand, you can't have mistakes or else it's ai, but be too good at it and it will also look like ai.

[@SaikoThorns]

Unless someone is trying to sell ai art to people, causing drama, or actively harming the community, then this did not need to be brought up. Let people create. This artist did nothing wrong, so why is their hate and bad intent being spread around them?

[@SunsetCompass]

Dude, can you do proper research? This is a feature of art programs like Clip Studio Paint or IbisPaint where they don’t show when you undo in the speedpaint. Miku also does have a bit of those gold details in her design. The way you’re accusing people of using AI is just fueling the hate that a lot of us genuine artists are getting for “doing very AI things” with our art. You’re only hurting us by hyperanalizing every single thing we do. Edit For the people saying that they do show undos it’s either a setting on the program itself or you’re confusing eraser strokes with undos. Programs like Ibis and CSP record actions which are brush strokes/eraser strokes/moving sections around.

[@Chiara.Monochrome]

Bruh as far as i know, ibispaint does show the undos in the speedpaints very clear but i can be wrong, even though my speedpaints are showing the undos. I did not know that you can turn that off or something *not meant in a mean way*

[@Gh0sttt1337]

Can you tell me where exactly this feature is in CSP? I can't find it in my own CSP nor can I find any information that such a feature exists.

[@xzura8669]

nah ur right though, its the fact shes not even sure how it works and yet is using it as a point against them (even the comments are inconsistent on whether or not undos are recorded especially on CSP, when it literally depends on your settings iirc)

[@SunsetCompass]

@@Gh0sttt1337 it depends on your settings for both apps. For mine in both cases it automatically came with those settings turned off to show undos/redos probably because I’ve been using the apps for years. I’m 100% sure on IbisPaint because I use the app all the time to record my timelapses, not 100% on CSP because I haven’t used the app in a hot minute, but I’m pretty sure it’s also a feature

[@Gh0sttt1337]

@SunsetCompass Maybe don't make claims you aren't sure about then? I know about IbisPaint, but I literally just looked through CSP's settings and there is no such setting for undos.

[@dio1803]

Kat, I know these videos get the most attention but you really need to stop making videos breaking down AI allegations when your evidence time and time again is faulty, nitpicking or just straight up untrue. You continually use the same reasonings to call people's art AI, and it's to the point where it seems like it's the only thing you can make videos on. I'm sure there are other dramas than ganging up on beginner artists or random ppl on twitter bc you can't draw the same way they do.

[@junnananas]

she doesn't care lol, she's just here for the ad money. it's depressing seeing her fans harass people until their accounts get deleted when there's little to no proof of actual AI usage. it's so sad what the art community is becoming, AI has made people so paranoid they'd rather eat their own community alive than be kind to each other

[@Marihuni]

2:29 stop it. This is too far, just because they don’t use the undo button doesn’t mean they use ai, in ibid paint if u use the undo button it doesn’t show in the speed paint not everyone use clip studio 🙏 and we all suffer with drawing hands and i don’t think their hands are too off a human artist can make this mistake i feel offended cause her process literally like mine please if you don’t want people to send hate stop making these videos

[@markus8230]

It's kinda sad that at this point, artists can't even make mistakes anymore, or have a very sloppy style, without being accused of using AI. People should remember not everybody wants their art to be clean, and a lot of artists dont give a f* about their backgrounds sometimes because the subject might be a character in front. And personally i dont even care if someone does use AI images as references, to me its not much different than references from human made art. To me it feels ignorant to doom everything AI related. And it always baffles me when so called real artists then use something like autotranslate or generally use any other AI thats not art related. Because they are not directly being negatively influenced by that AI existing. But almost all translators lost their job to ai. And it spreads across all sector. Who do you think recommeds youtube videos to people, yea who had guessed that, an ai. It feels so hypocritical to me.

[@rainofstars5809]

you're just defending ai. it's obvious you don't paint for a living, and it doesn't concern you much. wait until ai takes away your job too

[@sammorallee]

​@@rainofstars5809 they're literally not defending ai art, how tf you came to that conclusion? u sure we read the same thing?

[@markus8230]

@@rainofstars5809 Thats exacly why i think its hypocritical to say this type of ai is so overly evil, when people use other AI without thinking or knowing about it. They only complain when that particular ai does not benefit them. So now can you please stop using any autotranslator anymore and oh yeah no google search or youtube either. Of course im over exaggerating, but still people only complain when they are the ones threatend by ai, as if they have the moral autority to judge when something is not morally ok.

[@rainofstars5809]

@ if a person really compares translators (which help ordinary people interact with each other) with AI sр-аm in all areas, on all platforms, then for me personally he is simply defending AI. A very simple thought

[@markus8230]

@@rainofstars5809 So an "ordinary" person who wants to read things written in different languages using auto translators ist ok, even tho translators lost their job. But an Ordinary person wanting to create Art using ai is not? Seems like some artists realey think they are above others. Again your answer proves that you only complain about ai when it fits you.

[@KingHarkinianZC]

Edit: Could have sworn this was the case last time I used the time lapse feature but sure enough did a quick test and CSP does show undos, maybe I'm just misremembering or maybe it removes some when truncating a longer recording. Either way sorry for talking out the ass, but I don't see anything horrendously suspicious about the time lapse and the workflow is completely normal in traditional painting and it looks like they have a fine art background. If this is genuinely AI color me surprised but shame on them if it is. Not gonna defend lying about using AI if that's the case but also not gonna just immediately go along with the crowd which seems to throw around flimsy AI accusations all the time these days and have bullied real artists over them. By no means do I support AI image generation, but based on the evidence in this video consider me a sceptic I suppose ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@vvv8392]

@@KingHarkinianZC they got outed for using ai and thats why they deleted their account

[@我看你ash]

Nope, as someone who uses CSP, I saw ur comment and I was like, nah they record it…I just went and did a mini drawing and did some undos and rewatched the Timelapse, and they INDEED do record the undos

[@vvv8392]

@@KingHarkinianZC also, why are you lying? Clip studio paint shows undo’s.

[@vvv8392]

@@我看你ash literally I had to double check on my own Timelapse to see if they were right

[@ymirkat]

clip studio definitely records my undos lol

[@EJ-vx6up]

This artist technique is like traditional painting. Artist that have, no knowledge of traditional painting will never paint like this in digital. I assumed that this artist is used to doing traditional painting and just starting out doing digital painting.

[@shoma-o2u]

when the rendering is so good they think it’s AI

[@KazLxrd]

This is why I quit doing art and focus on my KZbin instead, for the past year or 2 any time I use to post some art on my Instagram I'd get flamed for it being "AI" when it wasn't. I ain't exactly the best artist either so I just quit doing it instead. It's a shame because I enjoyed doing it to spread it around and see what people think of it, but recently, you gotta bring entire documents and a lawyer just to prove you've drawn a piece now a days, it's stressful asf

[@rainofstars5809]

soo maybe record your process on video? uncutted, fullscreen, without any tricks?? and no one will flаmе u ever

[@onnk-ytsg-dokidoki]

Don't use Instagram, it's a shit place. Post somewhere else

[@aries6663]

@@rainofstars5809 it shouldnt get to that point, its ridiculous how these things happen nowadays.

[@rainofstars5809]

@@aries6663 it's really terrible that ai-nonbros discredit art. and you have to prove that you really draw yourself. personally, i recorded a 30 minute uncutted timelapse video with the whole process in full screen. no one has ever accused me, although i have 50 thousand subscribers on twitter. but just in case, i made proof.

[@eveewinfir9589]

​@@aries6663 indeed, it is pretty sad NEED to prove that you in fact did that, but like if you did... You did, there's no problem in showing the process since you have passed for it

[@LoverinaPlays]

21:09 Hatsune Miku's sleeve lining is actually blue btw-

[@Not_H1na]

the theme that that show the fully perfect speedpaint may be because Ibis Paint doesnt show when the artist press go back, just show when they erase. 🤷‍♂ Just a theory of mine (i'm a Ibis Paint User)

[@bangyanana]

i feel so bad for this artist, they’re so talented and it’s so obviously not ai. some programs don’t include undos in the automatically recorded footage (i may be wrong but im pretty sure the first drawing was in ibis paint) so i think the 'no undos' is unfair. And the lighting thing, i’m not that advanced since i’ve only been drawing for like 9 years (not that long compared to others) but when im doing paintings i always start with shadows and lighting, and since this person does traditional art too, im sure it has nothing to do with ai. And the madoka magica one is definitely the lighting (sorry this is long😭)

[@beefxcake2523]

naw this ain't ai, she's obviously very talented in traditional media and if your comparing her earlier digital to her stuff now i feel like there is a steep learning curve for traditional artists going from traditional to digital that can give timelines in their skill improving over time very quickly as they get comfortable with the programs and using a tablet and stuff. idk her process is alot like mine, start with shitty sketch with no detail and just go straight into lineart if needed or straight into render from the color blobs, it's not even uncommon to do it that way. you make it sound like it's unusual when it's really not.

[@Lil-Riri]

I think people just enjoy going on witch hunts these days to "justify" why digital artists cannot be "perfect" or even close to it. Most traditional digital artists prefer a deep understanding of lighting before they even begin. Furthermore, not every platform shows the undo process, making it a "speed paint". It has little to do with being "absolute units of artists". Not everything has to do with "tracers" or "AI usage", making me miss a world without AI... It's a shame all these witch hunts are getting to artists, especially the smaller ones.

[@sayannglol]

i dont get why people think that everythings AI tbh, its fucking stupid at this point.

[@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011]

Jealousy

[@sayannglol]

@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 prob

[@pondwater2117]

Everything in this video was Ai

[@sayannglol]

@@pondwater2117 ONG 😰

[@vvv8392]

@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 theres nothing to be jealous of shitty anatomy and blending to nothing ai

[@prismthehybird8023]

Personally, I don't think any of these are AI. Mostly with artists using AI, every artsyle is very inconsistent. Sometimes for example; the AI artist will sometimes "draw" a more anime-style piece, before later "drawing" a more realistic piece, and then "drawing" a more cartoony piece right after. These pieces all have a consisant style to one another (except for the follower's oc piece) Also we have to stop all of this superstition thinking unknown artists that are too good are using AI...

[@NyxelleTallyChum]

From my experience, some programs, like Ibispaint, doesn't show undos, and while people may argue about how uou can see ereasers, it's very pleasurable that the artist doesn't use the erasers, like me, i don't use ereasers and prefer to use Undo buttons. And also with the slide shows, my sister duplicates her sketches/lineart to draw the colours and see if it would work, of course, i don't know fully, but I'm giving a benefit of the doubt with that one. The only thing i find suspicious is the renaissance artsyle, but considering theres only 3 different artsyles, with 2 of them being almost identical with the only difference is rendering, i don't think this person is an ai user.

[@DatYouTubeGuy]

I swear with all the accusing nowadays the art scene is like the salem witch trials. Like stfu and just scroll on. No matter how much we dislike AI its getting better and better and harder to tell every single year whether something is AI or not. Its just better to block and move on nowadays.

[@rustedfaithuk]

I would say this is genuine. The blobbing highlighted is a thing I was taught for painting, it helps to figure out lighting so you don't place a dark colour on areas and helps you visualise your light sources and forms. I know in digital this isn't a problem but it may just be a process left over from the artist working in traditional art. I know if I am doing life drawing with inks or ball point, I definitely put weird blob or marks down to remind myself or form or to not go to aggressively in that section.

[@cloudson3886]

This is 100% not AI and no AI was used. This is just BS at this point

[@charvisaur4155]

My csp does not show undos, but it will show any erasing I do.

[@MrButcherHater778]

incredibly upsetting to see this ai paranoia reach actual artists. this is only doing them harm especially with the misinfo

[@ItsAnotherMazeThere]

20:41 hatsune miku does have those gold accents on her skirt and the top of the sleeves are supposed to be blue..it takes one google search-

[@Skykristal]

I dont understand why the undo thing is brought up so often. Even if it doesn't show (due to the software) artists absolutely use the eraser, the transform tool, there are adjustments made, some stuff moved around etc etc. This is normal art process and these things are often if not always present. Especially if you draw on this level. (A beginner might care less) Correct me if I'm wrong, i don't use software which saves and records the art process personally but all this stuff would absolutely show in the speed paint. But somehow, its never the case.. Because they're not really drawing it. Even if they sketched on paper first and trace their own sketch, you would still see some of this in the other parts of the art process.

[@blukirin]

Saying this is "Ai" is a reach. You can clearly see the majority of the super light outlines where things will go. Like the eyes, hands, etc.. etc ... I must draw in Ai then. Lol I'm so all over the place.

[@beanieCafe]

yeah no,for this one i cant agree. speedpaints in some programs dont recor every undo (its why i dont record my processes anymore bc i cant see where i adjusted and went wrong) and they seem to use a marker type of rendering process that i do on my tradional pieces, i cant stick the claim of AI to this piece ,doesnt seem right to me

[@boots1622fan]

this is the least ai i've seen of all the accusations tbh. stylistic color choices =/= ai and ai would mess up madoka's outfit soooo much more.

[@annabella1650]

Those calling “blocking out” colours suspicious tend to forget that layers aren’t the same in traditional art. Depending on the media, you can have an underpainting, glazes and so on, but sometimes you have to do it chunk-by-chunk. If you’re doing a picture in watercolour, you might be using masking fluid because of a saturated colour nearby. As someone who dabbles in both, you tend to transfer techniques across one medium to another. Some people find issues adjusting between traditional and digital, but once they adjust things looks better. Things like brush shapes, mix settings and opacity. The issues with the line-work and colour choices seem a bit off, but it could be a style choice more than anything. Honestly there is no clean evidence to say the artwork is AI.

[@estellarjj]

Imagine calling out something being brown instead of pink when the lighting scenario and intensity shifts the hues, altogether Imagine searching for the pigtails when the whole concept of the piece is her taking out the "bows" and letting her hair flow I despise ai and usually these vids make sense but the reasoning here really does not

[@Louca-pv9ne]

the art doesnt look ai to me, the background all makes sense to me as well. Also alot of artists render chunk by chunk and the fact that they used a base background color makes the coloring process seem alot more real. the fact that the eyes are rendered basically the same way shows that this would probably not be ai.

[@LiaAmes]

This art process feels extremely familiar to me as I used an identical style to render a few years back. It also reminds me of the painting art classes I took! My traditional art process would also look very similar to this, although we djd use references. Dunno, this doesn’t struck me as AI at all.

[@Tikkibombom]

Can we please not call AI generated images 'art'?? It's giving it way too much importance.

[@Imaginexall]

I find it unhinged that ppl are DEMANDING timelapse videos to artists so that they can prove they're innocent, and if as an artist you don't provide it you're automatically guilty. It's scaring the sht out of me.. Personally my illustrations take more than 30 hours each, and if i keep the video enabled in procreate, the file weights like 10 gb and my ipad starts being unusable after 25 hours of work. I can't imagine what'll happen if someone asks me the process of one of those deleted videos and i can't PROVIDE. This community feels more and more depressing.

[@GrimdarkKing]

Ah, the grand tribunal of art criticism, where knowing precisely where each line belongs is apparently an offense punishable by accusation. If the artist stumbles, it’s ‘proof’ they’re human. If they don’t, it’s ‘proof’ they’re using AI. Can’t win either way, can they? The irony is as thick as a lasgun beam in a fog. Maybe instead of conjuring conspiracies, we just admire the work-or, Throne forbid, move on.

[@hifzurrahman5315]

have u ever drawn before bro

[@eveewinfir9589]

What?

[@Beepbeepbeep12]

"If they don’t, it’s ‘proof’ they’re using AI. " yes.. EVERY human artist makes mistakes, i dont get your point

[@NachoPotato]

Rip Bob, he lived for 2 videos

[@reallyintosquids7328]

This video jus pmo. I hated every second of it. I had criticisms w every one of her arguments. "A lot of artists dont do that" yea, maybe bc not everyone is the same? People can have different art styles. People can make mistakes. Mistakes aren't exclusive to Ai. Those artstyles have been used for way longer than ai has been around and then was unfortunately used to feed ai and thas why ai "art" looks similar to their art. Not to mention, the fact that people criticized this artist for not giving evidence and timelapse AND THEN criticized their timelapse and evidence. I get it, ad revenue and shit but what you're doing to these poor artists to get ur money is downright horrible and disgusting.

[@zimmyzioom]

i feel like people call anything ai now

[@yeahjv]

Fr bro

[@Biggiecheese20]

That's more of an AI problem imo. If there wasn't so much AI slop online, EVERYWHERE this wouldn't be as annoying as it is

[@6pmmm]

imagine its not ai and everyone is just pointing out mistakes and saying your art is just wrong 🤣

[@benstoyanov6030]

this is a take I don't necessarily agree with. Procreate doesn't record undos and their art process honestly looks very advanced, but still human. The fingers and hands look good,anatomy is correct, object permanence is good which is very hard for AI. Their rendering style is really advanced as well and so far Ai has not been able to fake speed paints like these. The way they sketched the jars with the shine and little lines to indicate scratches or shadow is how I draw as well, this helps me visually imagine where shine and shadow would be even before I render the piece. This is clearly someone with artistic skill and knowledge drawing from reference, you might say there's colour picking involved or whatever it might be, but this is clearly not AI. The culture we've created of witch hunting artists is very toxic, I admit this was very entertaining to me at first but this has now become a literal witch hunt.

[@Zeitzeuginblog]

Girl, at this point, you are just doing rage bait. Please stop. It's getting ridiculous since it casts a bad shadow on you and your artistic skill.

[@Asherlikessallyface]

The artist showed they use ibis paint so you can’t hid layers and undo doesn’t show up in the speed paint! People think it’s ai is why I try to actually erase things so it shows up in the speed paint =‘(

[@_bea_9902]

i hate that showing a speedpaint of the process is now expected of an artist, i use paint tool sai, it doesn't record speedpaints so i have to actually screen record and edit if i want to do a speedpaint, and it's so tiring, i'm also the type to merge my layers when i'm done so i guess i'm f-cked if i ever get accused of using AI

[@l.ANDROMEDA.l]

DUDE SAME i also use paint tool sai. manually recording my process EVERY TIME would also like,, take up all of my computer space. this AI shit is so tiring...

[@AliKottLett]

@@l.ANDROMEDA.l samee, i use paint tool sai and most of the saved drawings are already in a png format so that i have more space, so cooked if someone wants a speed paint or even if they want me to show layers

[@ilovecookingmama]

Honestly most things seem alright to me but the background is a little suspicious. Like I feel like even if you render in this way you, you don't just make the outlines for where the shadows go too. Also at 2:13, you can see the airbrush type eraser being used and the shading magically appears. Speedpaints don't usually include the undo button and most artists do work without using the undo button so I don't think that's a great way to find out if an art piece is ai or not. Also usually people who work this way, already have their base colours in, just to kind of picture where the lighting should be at. I used to draw like this too, but in the end I also can't tell. I feel like it might be traced but the shading is most definitely theirs. It's quite sad to see how much AI has affected people's way of thinking. Atp, you gotta record yourself drawing without any cuts or the app speedpaint option.

[@AliKottLett]

for me, the outlines thing, is actually pretty common, as someone who does it too, its nothing more than just a sketch layer that will be buried under the layers of detail above it, the shadow and light outlines are completely normal to me. something like "artists dont typically do that" is just a bad way to prove whether its ai or not imo.

[@bung0144]

At 18:48 says: when you spend hours working on the background just to have most of it hidden by the character

[@Dani-u7v8n]

To be honest it just looks like this artist may have been a traditional painter before doing digital art? Am I the only one who can see that from their speedpaint? 🤔

[@AliKottLett]

it looks similar to how in oil paintings they often make it from sketch/lineart to blobs to detail, the speedpaint gives me a really similar energy

[@Dani-u7v8n]

@AliKottLett Yes I was thinking the same as well! I originally started as an acrylic painter and so when I started digital art I know I also tried to replicate my acrylic process in the digital format just because that's what I was used to. it's possible this artist is an oil painter and just stuck to the process they know best 🙏🥰

[@AliKottLett]

@@Dani-u7v8n yeah, also the no undos comment hurts me a little cause I'm used to just making it as it goes since I'm from traditional to digital, I usually even forget to use undo or using the special tool in ibis paint

[@Dani-u7v8n]

@@AliKottLett Yes I was that way for a long time as well. I not only painted only on one layer but I wouldn't use undos and just "made it work" or painted over my mistakes hehe

[@AliKottLett]

@@Dani-u7v8n so real

[@0.STARSCREAM.0]

I think the program they use doesn’t record the undoes… this art is obviously not ai if you look at their other art it isn’t ai. They also do traditional art

[@thosejuniper_art]

Her art does look legit, the way she does lighting on charcoal looks the same as on how she renders digitally.

[@carolDAYZ]

For the color being allegedly "too final". There is a thing artists do called color comp, where you open another file of the sketch, do a rough passing of the color and lighting as a sort of self made reference. Im not saying that's what she did here, but there is a way this can be done. Wnother thing you say that can be harmful is this "godification" of artists. "Only god artist can do things like this" no. Any artist can do that with the right study method and time of practice, most things you say are god level, are actually not that hard for advanced artists.

[@Tojiii]

Respectfully, THIS channel is a prime example of why AI is so dangerous. The only way to decide is nitpicking which, in this case, is hard since it seems Kat does little research. For an example, does she know what program this user is using to draw? I am getting mixed responses from the comments. But majiority of the ones I see are saying the program the artist is using does not record redos. But yeah...

[@AliKottLett]

you could see even though no undos, they often adjusted the colors on the speedpaint, but it was very fast and hard to see when they did so. not even looking closely and the speedpaint an say that theres no improvements its just making me annoyed. And the "most artists don do that" to prove that its ai is just not a good reason imo

[@OcarinaLink24]

Minor spotting procreate tip! I think multiple programs do this so you can apply it to those too, but for SURE know that procreate doesn’t record your brush strokes in real time, it just snaps from frame (no line) to frame (line) without anything in between. Not every program that does this is procreate, but if you see the lines being created in real time it is NOT procreate!

[@Necessity4fun]

Dunno, I think this one was actually legit... Some of these are beginner mistakes, as the comments have already pointed out the app acts a certain way and the coloring practices is reminiscing of someone that learned traditional art before since with paint there is very little room for mistakes. Madoka missing one of her ribbons is a story element as she's given one of them to Homura who then starts to wear it to remember her, a lot happens in this series and there's even been movies, so depending on your reference a lot has changed (they even re-do the world a couple times, it's crazy!) There weren't as much inconsistencies as you normally see with AI art, in fact, all three pieces together look quite consistent from one another. The things you pointed out are easily explained by stylistic choices and plot information

[@Sjiras]

11:39 they do lay down flat colors first. You can see it in the character because it is more complicated and takes longer. If you go frame by frame for the pots in the background you can see the same thing. It is just that they do 1 item (or pot) at a time and the timelapse is so fast that it doesn’t registers.

[@Toastshell]

I really do not think this person is using AI, rather they seem to have a profund knowledge on art and perception of things, I don't find it completely weird being able to drawing things perfectly out of the gate, on the example of the hand, they already have the main shape, drawings the fingers in would be rather easy if you studied well enough wnd know how to construct it. Overall I do think the person is very skilled at what they do, but if the truth does end up coming out and they did incorporate AI I'll be extremely disappointed, their art is very beautiful.

[@jomartinez4447]

Y’all are getting way too comfortable calling things ai…

[@firetrix93]

A person is enjoying themselves and this is what you people get up to?

[@kierenaster]

Can we please just… stop accusing people of AI art if they are just posting their art online because they want to share? The *only* reason to scrutinize like this is if they are selling commissions. If someone wants to use AI art and claim they made it themself and it’s not being sold… whatever. They can be a liar all they want. They aren’t actually hurting anyone. Tracing lineart, too. Some people are *really* good at colours and want to do their own characters but aren’t good at the drawing part. Once again, if they aren’t selling, whatever. Let them do what they want and stop fucking bullying them for it. Just… fucking stop.

[@broken_midnight23]

i dislike people who claim ai art as their own

[@Eazypeazy13]

OMG SAME TWINNN

[@jamesburlingame4763]

Me too

[@Biggiecheese20]

Same 👋

[@Worstdahoodianchan]

she said ALLEGEDLY

[@dariel_dibuja]

@@broken_midnight23 yet the artist didn't used AI. That's the fkn problem.

[@kiwi_owo_5519]

please stop calling every artists painting ai

[@kiwi_owo_5519]

i would cry so hard if someone called my art ai fr you guys ruin everything

[@CheezRBLX]

@@kiwi_owo_5519not to be rude but she doesn’t specifically pick people to call them ai, she finds creators where they get popular because of maybe using ai :,)

[@CheezRBLX]

@ As long as you don’t trace or use ai then it’s okay^^

[@shybie2798]

I sometimes draw the background first cause i have an idea om how to do the lighting. Drawing the background first helps set down the tones and ambience thats gonna affect the main item of focus within the painting. And a lot of apps dont show undos or too fast to show undos. Lets not over do it with being suspicious with actual artists now 😭

[@AliKottLett]

agreed, literally not everything needs all of the different modes for the colors to look accurate, if you understand how colors work (for example grayish purple-magenta would look in place in a dark blue background for skin), especially when the background is already in place its just way easier with a background to pick the right colors

[@kooskoekemoer]

I see people here saying that their software doesn't record the undo in the process, so basically they are saying if an eye is in a wrong position or maybe to small or big, they just undo the eye and draw a new one. (facepalm) Resize or liquify is not an undo, and most artist use this, and the recording will definitely show it. Undo only works when the last a line you made is out of place, not a complete eye or nose or foot. Whoever works like this must take days to complete a drawing.

[@pancake.squirrel]

THE SPEEDPAINT HAS UNDOS OMFG

[@Gh0sttt1337]

I know right lmao it does in the sketch phase