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Arturia Keylab 88mkii Review (For Orchestral Composition)

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D.I.D. CHOI

D.I.D. CHOI

Күн бұрын

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@JordanSteinagel
@JordanSteinagel 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Arturia Keylab Essential 88 and the keys are semi weighted, so it’s perfect for music composition and I definitely recommend it to anyone that wants to do orchestral composition
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great choice I’m sure!
@rick200017
@rick200017 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Keylab 88 Essential for about 3 months now, but haven't really done too much with it yet(busted motivator). It took a while to get used to the lighter touch, compared to my Yamaha P155 electric piano. I used a Korg Nano Control with it for the controller. I haven't really dug in to all the functionality, but it now has become the centerpiece of my little home studio. It came with Analog Lab V sound library, which seems pretty decent(for the price) and the Keylab 88 works well with all of my NI & other software instruments & DAW. Thanks for motivating me to dive back in!
@vanillarpgsoundtracks
@vanillarpgsoundtracks Жыл бұрын
I'm going to eventually get this, I live up town from you! They had this one on display in Poco and it was love at first sight. Can't wait to get it.
3 жыл бұрын
Really nice review. I'm trying to make a decision now myself so finding this review was very helpful. Thanks! You've given me a few more things to consider.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
It surely is a joyous decision haha. I really loved it. Unfortunate that the faders were on the right and the keys were too heavy for me cause it really was a banger keyboard
@user-lp1bn4jn9k
@user-lp1bn4jn9k 4 ай бұрын
The best review for the keys I've seen so far.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you thank you!
@user-lp1bn4jn9k
@user-lp1bn4jn9k 3 ай бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Thank YOU! :)
@davidnelson3602
@davidnelson3602 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your videos .... I figured out how to map the Arturia faders and knobs without your videos I would have never figured this out ... you are the best
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Oh great to hear!
@JohnSk82
@JohnSk82 3 жыл бұрын
So you made a video bombarding us with a ton of information just to return this back haha (so me ) Great video man
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha precisely. I wanted to like the feel so much, but for me it was too heavy and the new Hammer came out while I was testing this. Otherwise I would have kept it. It’s awesome so if you’re cool with the touch, I’d say it’s a no brainer
@JohnSk82
@JohnSk82 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI hah My Kurz k200x is the absolute best but sadly has broken .So i'm looking for something similar ..maybe physis ?Dunno man those fake ''real piano'' touch controllers are a trap really.Any thoughts on this ?As for the CC part Arturia is great .
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSk82 yeah, the quest for the perfect feel is still a whiles off for midi controllers. The Yamaha Clavinovas, and high end rolands, Kawai stuff are great but too big for midi controlling only. The hammer 88 pro is the best I could find. Slightly lighter than some grand pianos (like Yamaha grands) but similar to some Steinways I’ve played. But still room for improvement.
@MrFlorical
@MrFlorical 3 жыл бұрын
The case is not plastic. It is almost entirely metal. I don't know what you are talking about.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Is it metal? I know parts of it are (magnets obviously). Lots of it felt plastic, especially the edges which are the most important.
@MrFlorical
@MrFlorical 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Yes the end caps are part plastic and wood, but the rest is metal.
@richarddelsanto4016
@richarddelsanto4016 11 ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Arturia's MKII 88's touch keys can be adjusted from "heavy" to "light and all point in between to suit your needs. This is done in the Arturia software "Control Ctr".
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 11 ай бұрын
That's more to do with the velocity response curves. My problem was the literal physical weight of the keys. Took too much inertia to play a note unlike a grand piano
@harrisfrankou2368
@harrisfrankou2368 11 ай бұрын
Great review so in depth and that Ten Presets was an amazing reveal! I pick mine up tomorrow!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@gratefulmusicsound8337
@gratefulmusicsound8337 3 жыл бұрын
Really really best and really in depth review on any keyboard I ever watch! Appreciate this!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
That means a lot! Thank you so much! Check out my new video on the new M-Audio Hammer 88 Pro as well! Hopefully captured the same vibe
@gratefulmusicsound8337
@gratefulmusicsound8337 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI I just saw it on a KZbin feed and would check it out soon! Your review help a lot, cause I’m a film score composer too and been looking for this keyboard a while. I agree with you about the key too heavy. I use to try my hands on it once and still consider.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some people seem to love it, but I just can’t get the notes to speak the way I’m used to on a grand piano
@gratefulmusicsound8337
@gratefulmusicsound8337 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Agree, Thank you for really good content!
@letMusicBeWithYou
@letMusicBeWithYou 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very musch for this review)
@Jack_Sparrow_1
@Jack_Sparrow_1 11 ай бұрын
That's a honest review. Thanks!
@YachtEventHorizon
@YachtEventHorizon 3 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed the shop agreed to take it back.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Always make sure the shop has a good return policy!
@mariojosepr
@mariojosepr 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and review! I have been thinking about this controller for a bit now.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s an awesome controller
@floZone007
@floZone007 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Much appreciated!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@analcavity3464
@analcavity3464 2 жыл бұрын
What kind if camera are you using man!? Looks great, great review👍
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m using a Canon EOS RP. Using usually either the 35mm 1.8, the 50mm 1.4 or the 85mm 1.8
@jamesewanchook2276
@jamesewanchook2276 2 жыл бұрын
Great detail and presentation. Cheers; also from Vancouver.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Vancouver’s the best
@yooniimoto
@yooniimoto 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. 🙏✨
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SkyRiver1
@SkyRiver1 Жыл бұрын
The key velocity is programmable. Did you attempt to adjust it to your style?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't the velocity that was the issue for me but the physical weight of the key.
@variableknife4702
@variableknife4702 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the review.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
Very welcome!
@Curious_Skeptic
@Curious_Skeptic 2 жыл бұрын
My complaint on many of these 'pro' boards is the lack of LCD's/OLED/ to label the knobs. With the exception of Novation SL MK3, and NI S series MK2, not much out there that seems current tech! For the money being paid, it is hard to beat NI S88 MK2. Novation is the only close second. Studiologic really is getting the right idea, but... Still not really the user friendly interface one would expect this day and age. The idea is to have the controls usable and easy to reference. Who exactly is going to remember what 16+ different knobs or sliders do? I'm always blown away by the fact, more aren't demanding the LCD screens! Even older controllers that had LCD screens under or above the controls were superior to this board and many others. Looking at new releases with just one small screen located in some random position, well, WTH? I'm looking into a retrofit long narrow mini monitor so I can just make my own labeling system. Mount that bad boy behind the knobs, good to go. Anyway.... rant rant. Nice review, but personally, I think this board is over priced! Metal case or not. S88 MK2 is the best game in town if you care about ease of use in composition. Everything is right in front of your face. No guessing what the knobs do! No making cheezie tape labels or paper templates. It's all right there on a LCD screen! NI for the WIN!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting complaint! I hadn't thought of that because it is so uncommon in keyboards, but that sounds like something that would be awesome. Scribble strips that actually show the function! S88 doesn't have faders so its a bit of deal breaker for me, especially since without faders, I'd prefer a more minimal design like Studio Logic + external fader controllers.
@rickhood
@rickhood 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I have a KeyLab MKII 61 key and thinking about upgrading to 88 to get 88 weighted keys. I also practice piano on an old Yamaha P80, which I love almost as much as the Yamaha baby grand I used to have (is that crazy? ...maybe I am not remembering well what the grand was like, but I do like the P80). I do both soundtrack music and EDM and am having hard time deciding if I need/want the controls the KeyLab has, or if simpler is better. Since I love the Yamaha so much (all all Yamaha products, really) I was even thinking of a P45 or P125, or I could simply use my P80 for everything (which has midi out). I have a NanoKontrol2 so can use that for dynamics/expression. I use a few Spitfire Audio plugins. Can't decide. What you said about the "too heavy" key bed on the 88 make me worry, although I like heavy -- I think my P80 may be a bit heavy.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I often think digital keyboards are too light, but in this case with the Fatar stuff, it is wayyy to heavy, if you're looking for a natural pianistic feel.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 2 жыл бұрын
Small Word of Caution: as piano-player I found the key-action was way too heavy and spongy. Sold it within a year.
@rickhood
@rickhood 2 жыл бұрын
Stuck with my 61 for a midi keyboard and still use my Yamaha P80 for piano practice. These days I am mostly piano practicing as opposed to composing to get better at it -- mainly into jazz and neo soul chords in particular. Anyhow, the 61 is all I really need, and if for some reason I feel I need 88 midi, the P80 has midi out, which I have used in my DAW in the past.
@johnmcshultz
@johnmcshultz 2 жыл бұрын
I returned it too because of the keybed what I disliked. The keys of the Arturia Keylab Essential 88 I disliked too. I am thinking about the M-Audio Hammer and the Roland A-88 MKII
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Curious how it’s so popular with that Keybed
@MLaurence
@MLaurence 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the review. I'm considering getting one of the Keylabs with orchestra stuff in mind as well - did you like the faders when you had them or did you feel like it still might be helpful to have something separate (with a longer throw)? Thanks!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 ай бұрын
I used the onboard faders. Personally, a longer throw doesn't feel too necessary. Might be nice to have the option of both though if money isn't an issue.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 14 күн бұрын
Could you share all of your drum pad, fader, and knob controls please? (For example, what's in your next 8 pads for keyswitches) Also bank B isn't working for my key switches... what is going on with it?
@bottomsupbass
@bottomsupbass 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% confident; all things considered, the mk2 from Arturia is quite above the others it's not taste that drives this comment but experience I love that I can go down rabbit hole with komplete kontrol but Arturia has done a great job. You picked the #2 in my opinion but you specifically need an orchestral and scoring suite/controller. I see your idea is novel with the tracking on the keyboard (mouse or joystick) it's a potential spruce goose with added console items. But yes, there is definitely another way. Let's unpack it amd see what we can come up with . Maybe we design the final word. Anything is possible.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm looking specific for orchestral writing. The Arturia is very solid indeed and I did love it. Just wish faders were on the left both for writing and for any live performing where I play a line with my right and reach with my left to adjust things whether its between notes held down with pedal or just me playing my right
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
exactly the heavy touch is what makes it a professional keyboard! to you want to play a sample of steinway or low brasses how then? For fast leggiero passages you can increase the sensitivity, this is how to make it less heavy i suppose? And the faders are best in the middle, but not impossible to handle if on the side. A keyboard player has good right and left hands, doesn’t matter so much. Worse is the fader in left side, since mostly we need it for soprano or alto instruments. All in All, is a great keyboard among these models
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
As I mention, it is too heavy. It’s heavier than some of the heaviest upright pianos I’ve played, nowhere near the action of a Steinway grand. Weight and responsiveness is different so making things more sensitive won’t make things lighter, and for me brings the worst combo of touch. Do you not use your right hand to program in your stuff and left hand for automation? Or are you speaking from a gigging point of view? As far as I know, everyone programming orchestral music uses their right hand to play in notes and left for automation, anywhere from Hans Zimmer to JXL to Christian Henson or anyone else. Doesn’t matter if it’s a soprano or contrabass instrument
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI i have my fader controler in the center of the piano, so i use both hands. In some extreme cases is not so hard to cross hands. I use roland LX 17. The Arturia I have to test, but cant believe that heavier is worse.
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI if i play basses i automate with right hand. Anyway i use automate to give a final touch to the dynamic that was already readed by the keyboard, assigning expression to velocity for ex.
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI the idea of heavy keyboards is to allow to play with a heavy touch, and when you play something that is heavy, it makes sense to play deeper in the keyboard. It is truly thought for a pianistic point of view. But if it is nonsensical heavy i cant say, i did not play this keyboard. I tried the heaviest setting for my keys and cant imagine how this affects leggiero playing. Maybe you should to get used to it. But is a matter of preference, of course a light keyboard can still do everything. But the heavy keyboard adds a new parameter of interpretation and experience (as on a grand piano). If you played the biggest model of Steinway (i guess it is the B), you will feel like another musical parameter is opened by the depth of the long strings played by a heavy key (that has light action however) So i guess the great keyboard take this into account. The Doepfer looks to have a heyv hammer/wood action as well . By the way used by these composers you said. I guess i would be very happy with a second controler like this, and heavy keys ;)
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
for pianists-composers the roland lx 17 is incomparable. Today i found out how to quickly access channels without skipping. You have to combi with a cc controler, but the piano gives you all the espace like a desk. You have 3 pedals to setup still. Just have to be crazy enough to spend all the money...
@benbas3156
@benbas3156 Жыл бұрын
Having a Keylab 49MkII I have to say, it would be a very good controller, if not... The DAW controll keys would not make such a loud noise when you press them. I much refere the DAW button click noise of the NI Komplete Kontrol. And I hate the notch in the Pitch wheel. It's much to deep and the surface of the notch is very slippy. So with a much softer click noise and without the notches of the wheels it is nearly a very good controller keyboard. I saw that the Keylab Essential has new bottons. Maybe they are better. Hopefully the Keylab MkIII will be released soon.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
Interesting point! Dont use the buttons personally so never minded, but that’s a cool thing to consider
@jonvincentmusic
@jonvincentmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Keylab 88 mk1. It’s much much better built. 14kg of solid metal. Also the controls are way more configurable like aftertouch and velocity sensitivity. Sad to say they cheaped out on the mk2 and made it less configurable in exchange for dedicated daw modes (useful I guess) and Vegas lights.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems to have been the case. It's good that they made it lighter, I guess.
@Kotkamusic
@Kotkamusic 2 жыл бұрын
How has this keyboard been working? Are you satisfied with the expression possibilities in the orchestral and piano recording?
@Kotkamusic
@Kotkamusic 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh you returned it... 👍🏼
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yeah I did, the keybed was too hard so it was difficult to get the in between velocities. Sliders are great, as is the mod wheel.
@cyborgmetropolis7652
@cyborgmetropolis7652 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a Kurzweil K2500X which has an 88 key Fatar keyboard, and I've owned a Studio Logic 76 weighted controller. Both are way too heavy. Not sure why manufacturers keep using them.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
I know! Fatar just doesn’t feel right. The action it self with the spring hammer feel is nice, but much much too heavy
@KcDaugirdas
@KcDaugirdas 2 жыл бұрын
You're my man! I am also coming from a Yamaha S90ES, which I LOVED (and which had the perfect action for me). Just couldn't take it when I moved across the pond :(( In general, Yamaha's keyboard action is my favorite. There's a cheap digital piano they make called the P45 which has no features, but great action. I was almost ready to get that and buy a separate pads/knobs/faders box, but none of those units have a proper pitchbend/modwheel, so I continued my search. Are you liking the Hammer88? The action felt a little springy for me when I tested it
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Hammer 88 Pro so far. Personally really liked the slight springy-ness as it felt more pianistic for me while the S90ES feels a little closer to semi-weighted touch without that spring. Think they are similar in weight, with the Hammer being a little heavier, but I thought it was really nice. Still love my S90 too though!
@KcDaugirdas
@KcDaugirdas 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI I ended up getting the Hammer. Are you finding that it triggers 127 velocities too easily? I have the same gripe with almost all M-audio keyboards. Very hard to get reliable hits in the 115-126 range.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
@@KcDaugirdas yes for sure. Both on my hammer pro and oxygen pro keyboards, I set the velocity curve to low. That improves the touch massively
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 2 жыл бұрын
key there is the way it changes midi channels quickly, perfect for engraving and vangelis-musicians
@Nothingnowhere909
@Nothingnowhere909 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this video needs more views man. Just got my shure sm whatever and some Yamaha hs7s this is the last thing to finish off my studio😭😭😭
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate it!
@ipoponq
@ipoponq 2 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the faders on the right side and glad they did it.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Really? How are you most often using them?
@ipoponq
@ipoponq 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOIwell, I use them a lot, mostly when I'm mixing and from time to time to control 2 midi CCs simultaneously. Let's say, I press a chord with my left hand, and then move 1 or 2 knobs with my right hand, just like I'd hold the real bow). Also, having them to the right insures I won't accidentally hit them, as to the left I got pads & mod wheel which's kinda my "action" area. Anyway, it's not a huge deal though, as it may vary from person to person, so I was so prised to hear that it was a demerit. Unfortunately, with all of those keyboards I believe you kinda have to pick and sacrifice something: functionality, keys, software, build, appearance & etc, focusing on what's important for you and what you want.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
@@ipoponq Interesting! So you're thinking like a string player with a bow. That's a cool thought.
@neelenpatten2959
@neelenpatten2959 Жыл бұрын
Be careful with M-audio because they have the tendency not to update their drivers and their controllers get outdated very fast as a result...
@paulsmith1807
@paulsmith1807 8 ай бұрын
great video 😀🙂
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jamesr141
@jamesr141 Жыл бұрын
I love that you went with the retail buy. What are you working with today?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
On the Hammer 88 Pro! Gotta support local when you can!
@jamesr141
@jamesr141 Жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI It's just fun to go to the store.
@maxpommer7292
@maxpommer7292 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm? You mentioned Vancouver... Would that be Vancouver in B.C., Canada? (Btw, it was a pure coincidence coming across your video while I was checking out material on the Arturius Mk II)
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Yup that's right
@strykeback1
@strykeback1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just discovered your channel and trying to get into film scoring. Did you try the native instruments 88? Using a arturia mini at the moment and just sold my Korg triton ProX 88, wish either of these guys would have made a 73 synth key as an option rather than stopping at 61
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
I did not get to try it out unfortunately. I’d love to but the stores never seem to have it. I’ve tried the small M32 so I am familiar with the interface though. I guess missing only one octave starts getting not really worth it in brands’ eyes
@Thegalaxy077
@Thegalaxy077 Жыл бұрын
only suggestion ,,,,,,,,,,, if youre unboxing something use it ,, dude play it let people feel the sound its such an important factor
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
I do use it towards the end. But yeah didn’t end up liking it too much. Thanks for the suggestion
@annode
@annode Жыл бұрын
What's the deal with separate keyboard zones? It appears to only do a single split. The StudioLogic SL88 will give you 4 programmable zones which seems necessary for film scoring and electronic ambient.
@blueser100
@blueser100 Жыл бұрын
Great review. But is it compatible with Garageband on a MacBook? I didn't see that DAW in the list.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
It will work with GarageBand! There may not be a custom profile set up for it to work immediately as a DAW controller. It depends what you want to do with it. Personally, I don't use any of the built in DAW modes anyways and set up custom presets which will work with any DAW
@lattetown
@lattetown 3 жыл бұрын
Did you try the Keylab 88 essential? I've read the action is semi-weighted...and not so heavy.
@FrancescaBettiMusic
@FrancescaBettiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I was thinking to buy this Arturia now I don’t know but I heard most of the keyboards do that sound it doesn’t change so much.... any other people with comments about they keys?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Betti, I'm not sure I understand your question. Could you rephrase it?
@FrancescaBettiMusic
@FrancescaBettiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI ahahah sorry I mistyped. I mean I heard you said in the video the keys are too heavy, but hearing from other people in other videos they all said most of the time the keyboards Keybed they all have their own problems.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think people with real piano experience will never be satisfied by a midi key’s action. Fatar’s feel is great, just way too heavy. More than a stiff upright I think. I really liked the M-Audio Hammer 88 Pro’s action, you can see my most recent video
@hj-82
@hj-82 Жыл бұрын
the chassis is a solid aluminium, not mostly plastic
@RufaProductions
@RufaProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Did you notice that M-Audio's pitch bend wheel reacts weird? I mean it's kinda delayed, has some latency, like it's too slow or something. I tested Hammer 88 Pro in a music center recently and I liked it a lot, but when I started playing with pitch bend I had that impression. Compared to my CME UF 70 keyboard I have at home the pitch wheel seems sluggish. What do you think? And what was it like in Arturia?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I haven’t noticed anything weird myself
@RufaProductions
@RufaProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Hello. I have to say that Hammer 88 PRO version has indeed a problem with the pitch bend! I had an opportunity to test another piece of this model in another shop and compare it to the NON pro version. The pitch bend wheels of these two behaves really different. While NON pro version was reacting to its movements instantly, the PRO had some delay/latency so it was impossible to play short fast notes with very fast pitch bends in time (which didn't happen when doing it on the NON pro). There is something wrong with this hardware... It's such a pity, because I was almost sure that I would buy it... It seems strange that you didn't notice it. Maybe you just don't need to use it the way I do.
@albertpepper1
@albertpepper1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi D.I.D. CHOI Great Reviews. I'm returning my Komplete Kontrol S88 for the same problems like the heavy keys and the fact they work only for Komplete Kontrol land. For Film Scoring and Orchestral writing plus live Music like wedding Band is there any keyboard you recommend? Best I would need something with a good and sensitive Velocity. All my best
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Check out my M-Audio Hammer 88 Pro review, that’s what I ended up going with. Otherwise a Roland or Yamaha stage piano might work well too, it not sure how much control you need live
@albertpepper1
@albertpepper1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Thanks so much!
@albertpepper1
@albertpepper1 2 жыл бұрын
The midi controller is more for Using with Logic not to perform. To perform i was thinking between Korg Kronos v2 61 or Yamaha ModX7. Have you tried these?
@HoboInASuit4Tune
@HoboInASuit4Tune 3 жыл бұрын
Hi man! I own the 'mark 1' as it were, the hammer-action 88 key. I'm wondering if these are better in the MkII. Some bad things I noticed; -- the hammer-action keys are LOUD. Louder than a full-fledged hammer-action digital piano. You roommate WILL kill you. -- The printed on-metal ink is GONE if you try to clean the surface of your keyboard. -- I have a dial that is alternating between values several times a second and is making my MIDI Learn life VERY difficult... Any news on these fronts?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
I've read reports that its the same Fatar keybed? Might be wrong. You could kind of hear the volume in the video compared to my speaking. It was louder than my Yamaha S90ES and the Hammer Pro I have now. Partially because the sound was more bassy, so it carries more. Can't say anything about the ink, but that sounds terrible! Didn't notice any redundant midi information when I mapped stuff, but that also sounds like it could be unique to your keyboard?
@lyxsoundstudio7474
@lyxsoundstudio7474 2 жыл бұрын
but the casing is actually metal ? i don't get your point at 10:36 ? watch any video about that keyboard and any guy who tested says it's metal and sturdy
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly my mistake. So yes; the main body is metal and sturdy. I was referring to the bits on the side, which are plastic and crack pretty easily. The unit I had had a crack on it, and im sure it’d be common since it’s the part that would take whatever force from drops, moving around in a car, etc
@DynotoeTube
@DynotoeTube Жыл бұрын
I'd love a pro and con of getting a 2022 88 key midi controller versus just using the S90es as a midi controller. In todays world aka 2022.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
Ooh, this is a question I can answer very well haha. The S90ES is amazing. However it is no longer compatible with computers in terms of DAW control or assigning MIDI CCs. (At least, macs). So you have to connect via 5pin MIDI. Mod wheel, pitch bend, sustain all work perfectly, so if that's all you need, then it's perfect. I wanted more faders, buttons, knobs, which is why I went for a modern MIDI controller. And the ability to have multiple mappings to easily access via presets, so the same fader could be CC1 for scoring, CC17 for MainStage gigging, volume for mixing, etc.
@DynotoeTube
@DynotoeTube Жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Wow thanks for getting back. So the S90es can't act as a midi controller anymore? Is it a driver issue or change to the midi standard or something? If it is just the midi connection, I think there is converters between pin and USB I think?
@gauravsingh2760
@gauravsingh2760 2 жыл бұрын
Were the keys graded hammer action or just regular weighted keys ? Thanks a ton !
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Apologies, I can't remember for sure. But I recall that it was graded...but don't quote me on that
@gauravsingh2760
@gauravsingh2760 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI - Thanks heaps ! and yes , not quoting you the ‘graded’ part 😊
@DennisCaunce
@DennisCaunce 2 жыл бұрын
I got a cheaper option. Nectar Impact LX 88+. It's good enough for my needs.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 2 жыл бұрын
And.... probably has better key-action too! MK ii 88-key is spongy and way too heavy. Wonder what they were thinking at Arturia.
@Sasuke99767
@Sasuke99767 Жыл бұрын
I want to buy a midi controller and I have two options. The m audio hammer 88 pro or the arturia keylab 88 mk2. What do you reccomend?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
Came to the right place, I happened to review both and gave a verdict! Ended up choosing the Hammer 88. Reasons are explained in detail in the video, let me know if you have further questions!
@BurgessBoyExperiencePublishing
@BurgessBoyExperiencePublishing Ай бұрын
anyone know who sells laptop plate attachment for this. can't find anywhere
@kpr94777
@kpr94777 3 жыл бұрын
did you end up liking the M-Audio Pro's action better?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Currently editing the review for the M-Audio now! Should be out next Tuesday!
@kpr94777
@kpr94777 3 жыл бұрын
D.I.D. CHOI ok sweet 👍
@syanhc
@syanhc 11 ай бұрын
Can I assign spitfire audio orchestral vsts with this? What about the Roland A-88 mkii?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
The MIDI controller doesn't really get "assigned" to a certain instrument. That being said, yes any controller including this and the Roland will work with Spitfire stuff
@HonorV2ultimate1tb
@HonorV2ultimate1tb 3 ай бұрын
i have speakers which are bluetooth....so can i just connect the speakers to the laptop via bluetooth instead of getting an audio interface?..... and the laptop connects to the Arturia wth the bundled usb cable?..... and there wil be sound as good as via an audio interface?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 ай бұрын
Bluetooth will give you latency. For playing, Bluetooth will not work.
@HonorV2ultimate1tb
@HonorV2ultimate1tb 3 ай бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Thanks...you are right.....bought an Minifuse4 instead.....
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 8 ай бұрын
David most of your shots are high depth of field where you (or your hand) is in focus but the keyboard is not, making it difficult to see the keyboard. Ease up on the cinematic effect and just shoot practically so we can see what’s going on. You can add some short interlude clip montages with high depth of field but keep it to a minimum in a product review. Also I[m watching this video because I want to hear your personal experience as a film composer using this keyboard. I can watch any video on youtube to get a basic overview of what buttons are on it etc.. what I really want to know is how good does this thing fit your workflow with specific examples of where it shines and or falls short. And the background music is kind of annoying and cheesy and distracts from what you are saying rather than enhancing the experience or adding something valuable to the video. And yes please do a video on the M AUDIO Hammer 88 Pro, and when you do please keep in mind the things I said above. Thanks!
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I guess I did more of a tell than show approach, but that's cause I didn't feel the need to show much. Like you say, there are tons of videos out there on how to use the keyboard and what it looks like, so didn't feel like I had to do that. Did do a Hammer 88 Pro video a few weeks after, but keep in mind these videos are a couple years old already haha
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 8 ай бұрын
@@DIDCHOI Yes and thanks. I did watch your hammer 88 video and honestly I am on the fence between it and the Complete Kontrol Sk3 88 and the Aurturia 88. Like you I am a composer who doesn’t need a keyboard for performances but for basic note entry and it needs to work with Kontakt player, Opus, Logic, and Vienna Ensemble Pro etc… I do have all the Auturia synths and I like the idea of a keyboard designed to work specifically with that or Kontakt but I also like/want a good feeling keyboard. So I’m really kind of stuck between those three options and don’t know which is best.
@Falcontf
@Falcontf 3 жыл бұрын
What are you thoughts on the Roland A-88 Mkii ? I read the keybed is slightly better on that one
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely a good choice. I haven’t been the biggest Roland touch fan, but they are still very excellent. The A88 I’ve only tried in store so can’t give any really grounded advice, but it felt really nice when I tried it. Love the wooden keys
@MrFn65
@MrFn65 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI The A-88 mk2 has Roland’s PHA4 which is not wood keys it just looks like it. The escarpment feel is great. I’m looking at the Arturia model. Do you feel your S90 has a better piano feel than Arturia. How are you enjoying the feel of the M-Audio? . I’ve never been a fan of the M- Audio 88 key actions. The Roland Wood key actions are on their FP90x, RD2000, DP which feels excrellent like the Yamaha P515.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrFn65 I stand corrected then. The S90 and Arturia feels are polar opposites. The S90 being a classic stage piano feel from Yamaha with I think it was Balanced Hammer Action? Not graded, no escapism. The arturia's fatar board is stiffer and heavier as I mention in my other video. I am loving the M-Audio still! I always considered M-Audio just a cheap brand, but their hammer series feels really really good. Very similar to a grand piano's weight, though escapism and stuff can't get close
@MrFn65
@MrFn65 3 жыл бұрын
Yes as a pianist escapement is important for piano work, Roland has it so I haven’t had a chance to play on the Arturia. Yamaha has escapement on P515 and up but are not proper controllers with faders, knobs etc for orchestral work.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrFn65 yeah it’s hard to find midi controllers with it. Impossible to get built in controls AND good action as of today
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 2 жыл бұрын
Small Word of Caution: as piano-player I found the key-action was way too heavy and spongy. Sold it within a year.
@nox4298
@nox4298 Жыл бұрын
Jesus fucking Christ you don’t have to spam this everywhere
@neelenpatten2959
@neelenpatten2959 Жыл бұрын
What DAW do you use?
@brianmoore493
@brianmoore493 9 ай бұрын
Taking my midi controller to sweetwater .
@ChaseMusic87
@ChaseMusic87 2 жыл бұрын
Hi bro. Does it have a graded hammer keys?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
I want to say that it did. But I'm not sure if my memory's completely correct...
@BelfastBiker
@BelfastBiker 2 ай бұрын
First person I've seen to call it non sturdy and plastic.
@Dekon7
@Dekon7 Жыл бұрын
How is the key feel sir?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI Жыл бұрын
Too heavy for me personally..
@user-wl4rp9tk2y
@user-wl4rp9tk2y 10 ай бұрын
THATS EXACTLY IT. THE ACTION IS TOO HEAVY AND TOO LOUD. AND YOU CANT DO FAST STUFF ON IT BECAUSE IT LOSES NOTES. QUIETER AND FASTER
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 10 ай бұрын
YES! Some people love it, but it's not natural at all compared to a real piano. Impossible to play agile stuff cause it doesn't trigger the note OR it triggers way too loud!
@user-kh8vv3bf4e
@user-kh8vv3bf4e 2 жыл бұрын
我是中国的用户,刚买 Arturia Keylab 88mkii 这款键盘么几天,有好几个按键就出现了很烦人的塑料共振 清脆的咔嚓声,并且随着时间推移过几天又有几个按键出现了按键烦人的塑料共振的声音,Fatar 100LR 的键床真的让我心寒,以后不准备再买Fatar键床的全配重键盘了。
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Used google translate to see what you said, but getting the gist of it, yeah the fatar keys are bizarre to me. Don't know why they're so popular
@annode
@annode Жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI For those like me who like to layer multi-synths, each with separate velocity ranges, and who create ambient style music, the heavy key action helps you to 'feel' the range of pressure in the keystroke so you can get used to locating velocity ranges.
@TheChaserTV
@TheChaserTV 4 ай бұрын
Chick Korea
@user-wl4rp9tk2y
@user-wl4rp9tk2y 10 ай бұрын
GREAT BOARD. THE KEY ACTION TAKES ALL THE JOY OUT OF PLAYING AND CREATING. IT IS TOO HARD TO PLAY. THE FARTART BED. IS NOT WORKING. THE ACTION SUCKS
@CBass75
@CBass75 2 жыл бұрын
Plastic?
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 2 жыл бұрын
Turns out it was just the edges that are plastic, my bad. The edges gave me that impression. But I've seen many models with those edge pieces cracked
@WycliffStudios
@WycliffStudios 3 жыл бұрын
This keyboard is entireLy made out of metal. NI and Novation is fully plastic.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
The sides aren’t. The side was actually cracked on the unit I had.
@WycliffStudios
@WycliffStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI the left and right sides are made of wood inserts. The top and bottom is fully metal. The chassis is metal.
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 3 жыл бұрын
@@WycliffStudios The wood inserts are only on the MkI version. The new MKII has plastic sides
@WycliffStudios
@WycliffStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI I don’t know which other midi controller comes with this much metal. I just mentioned it because Native instruments is made of cheap crappy plastic and so is Novation. Arturia has the best build quality or any midi controller ever. You will never find anything better
@WycliffStudios
@WycliffStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIDCHOI you said that the chassis is plastic. You never said that the “sides” are plastic on the edges. Cause it’s half wood.
@brianmoore493
@brianmoore493 9 ай бұрын
I hate this midi controller. It's a bulky lead weight that can't even plug into an Amp. Talk about obsolete
@DIDCHOI
@DIDCHOI 8 ай бұрын
Wait, you know what a MIDI controller is right? No MIDI controller has built in sounds that can be plugged into an amp.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 2 жыл бұрын
Small Word of Caution: as piano-player I found the key-action was way too heavy and spongy. Sold it within a year.
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