Arturia V Collection 9 - 7 Reasons You Should Buy It - But Why I Am Not Upgrading + Save Money Hack💰

[@striverfor7628]

2:11 They're instruments you're very unlikely to ever play 3:38 The user interfaces 4:43 Controls on interface can be mapped to any MIDI controller 6:22 The presets 8:09 In-app tutorials 8:56 Arturia has made the instruments polyphonic 9:27 Arturia has added sequencers, FX and modulation options 19:30 Hack

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you for doing that. I've pinned it so it might helkp others. It's something I mean to do but usually forget 😢 Much appreciated.

[@striverfor7628]

@@IanWaugh Time is money. Need to be able to reach particular parts fast if we want. And it helps break it down, making it easier on the mind, and it's especially good for people who are new and learning. And it's called timestamping, just in case of any chance you didn't know, no patronisation intended!

[@IanWaugh]

@@striverfor7628 Indeed. Yes, time stamps although I've heard some people call them chapters. They can definitely help 👍

[@Pintosonic]

If you want the best deals on Arturia software, wait for the Black Friday sale. Typically they end up being at 50% discount. I have V collection 8 and the upgrade currently is $199 and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it at $99 or less on Black Friday sale.

[@IanWaugh]

Yes, that's true. I got my upgrade last year at a good discount 👍 And I used the hack 😁

[@ezegame1948]

@@IanWaugh hello thank you very much teacher for the information. 😊a question what is the difference of Arturia v collection 9? It has the same sounds as version 8, does it have any difference in sounds?

[@IanWaugh]

@@ezegame1948 Hi - You are very welcome 😊 It has four new instruments over Collection 8 plus 4 'rebuilt' instruments. You can check out the details here: www.arturia.com/products/software-instruments/v-collection/overview

[@maval4537]

I hardly watched a video this revealing, honest and well explained..... Great!

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you, you're very kind. Glad you found it helpful.

[@NeuroPete]

Interesting discussion. I faced a similar quandary about upgrading to V Collection 10. At the time, I was wanting only the marvellous Acid V (TB 303 emulation), but the US $149 V 10 upgrade was not much more money (I had missed the $49 intro for the Acid V). V 10 added Augmented Piano/Brass/Woodwinds, as well as CP 70 and Acid V, but an unexpected bonus was the MiniFreak V, which I love as much as the Acid V. Unlike others in this discussion, I don’t feel that Arturia is doing me wrong with the high upgrade prices. As a former developer myself, I don’t begrudge them charging more for their newer offerings.

[@IanWaugh]

I hear what you say but existing customers usually get a worse feal than new ones 😢

[@NeuroPete]

@@IanWaugh Agreed. I can appreciate why most existing customers would feel that way. I guess I’m an anomaly.

[@IanWaugh]

@@NeuroPete Possibily 😄

[@damo5791]

Great review. I'm surprised you don't have more views. And I totally agree, that the upgrade from V8 to V9 is not worth it. I upgraded to V8 last year and will hold off to see what's in V10 next year before considering upgrading. I need to see more new synths added rather than rebuilt synths I already have before considering the upgrade purchase.

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you very much. I don't have more views because... I don't have more viewers 😊 The more popular a channel, the more YT shows its content, just the way the algo works. I just put up content I think people will like and find useful. Yes, totally with you on the upgrade. Weird, but thwere you go. I will also probably wait to see what's in V 10 😄

[@mojoiam]

thanks for this video.. I paid 200 euro for V Collection 8 on Black Friday, so I'll wait until next Black Friday to upgrade.. might be cheaper then ;)

[@IanWaugh]

That was a good deal. Yes, Black Friday is a good time to save money - and spend it 😀 👍

[@mojoiam]

@@IanWaugh yeah I was surprised by it.. it was because I owned a midi controller & analog lab v. however my upgrade price now is 199 unlike yours. maybe because you’ve been a customer longer than me idk.. I’ll just wait till Black Friday :)

[@IanWaugh]

@@mojoiam Oh, that's interesting. 199 is a terrible price. It doesn't acknowledge any customer loyalty.

[@dannyghostt]

You upgraded to V Collection 8 for 200 euro?

[@mojoiam]

@@IanWaugh new limited offer: V Collection 9 upgrade + 1 Compendium soundbank = 149 euro.. should I take the bait? or do you think they’ll offer v9 for a 100 euro in Black Friday?

[@anonymoushuman8344]

The sheer number of instruments and sounds in these Arturia collections tends to discourage going deeply enough into any one of them to really learn it and use it to synthesize your own sounds. But there are some deep instruments in there, with sounds created by experienced fellow synthesists who know how to use a preset to invite you to experiment. With and without words they suggest trying things.

[@IanWaugh]

Yes, you're right. Far too many for most of us to learn in depth although relatively easy to tweak. They are NKS-compatible so if you have Komplete Kontrol (free) or an Arturia controller you can tweak settings from the keyboard.

[@geoatavist6880]

I've got version 7 and I'm getting a black Friday 2022 offer from Arturia for 99 euros to upgrade to 9. I skipped the 8 upgrade offer back in April 2022 as it wasn't quite enough extra for me, but now going from 7 to 9 is much more tempting.

[@IanWaugh]

Hi - Yes, that's a good deal 😊 I have the same offer but I already have 8 and the new CS-80 (a Steinberg freebie) and some version of Aug Strings so not a good deal for me. I'll wait until next year 😄

[@ToreHansen]

Great video, still on 8 a few more days, then 9,2

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you tore. Yes, currently an offer on the 9.2 upgrade - but not enough new stuff to tempt me. I'll see what's in 10 😊

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

The upgrade special offer from V Collection 8 to V Collection 9 I got from Arturia is $150 usd. But I already own the SQ-80. Others have told me their offer is $200 to upgrade, for those that do not already own the SQ-80. Either way, I think I am going to skip this upgrade, unless a better price comes along.

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you. Yes, this is a pretty dismal upgrade price and it's disappointing that Arturia have so little regard for their customers and the buyers who support their company 😢

[@SpeccyMan]

I got a crossgrade price offer of 399 euros in my Arturia account and, having tried the demo version of the Korg MS-20, that was enough to convince me it was time to buy.

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Nick - Wow! What were you crossgrading from? Arturia's MS-20 is awesome. I can easily imagin it being a convincer 👍

[@martindiehl155]

The best money hack, is waiting for black Friday. Normally half price, sometimes less. And meanwhile, You can play and learn with the demo version.

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Martin - 😀 It certainly is! I upgraded last year during a BF deal - and still did the hack 😁 Their demos are good.

[@striverfor7628]

Thinking I'll wait till Black Friday then. Even though I could get it for $399 right now because I own an Arturia audio interface. It might be $300 on Black Friday

[@IanWaugh]

@@striverfor7628 That's certainly when the best deals are 👍

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

Thanks for the video. Question: does the Arturia Keylab MKii controller control each of the V collection instruments directly in a DAW or do you need to load up Analog Lab V as an intermediary?

[@IanWaugh]

Hi - It will control them directly, in a DAW, the stand-alone versions or via Analog Lab. Hope that helps.

[@easyneal]

FYI. I have a Keylab49 MK2, V collection 7. FL Studio 20. The V collection synths will not record automation/knob tweaks in FL Studio. This issue also affects Pigments 3.5. As you theorised, opening the synth in Analog lab is a work around. The problem is the synths in the latest Analog lab are from V collection 9 and will not open the synths from V collection 7 even though they are more or less the same. I've reached out to Arturia about this and have been "Patiently" waiting for a fix since December 2021. They gave me some free fx as an apology a few months ago. The reverb is amazing. It kind of feels like V collection is actually a subscription by stealth.

[@mwmusic29]

Excellent info. Thanks for sharing!

[@IanWaugh]

Cheers Matt 😁

[@ebeyslough]

If you have V Collection 8 I don't find it worth while to pay an extra US$199 (loyalty discount) for the upgrade to Collection 9. There are so many presets and instruments already in the collection that I can't even take full advantage of, it's just already that awesome. I agree that if you also have Pigments (I got that for only US$39 with loyalty discount last November) you really don't need to upgrade. Perhaps V 10... Maybe.

[@IanWaugh]

Yes, I thinkk you are absolutely right. It's a crazy price to ask for the upgrade. I'll probably wait to see what's in 10 😀

[@frederikclement7795]

Great content, thanks!

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you Frederik. Alas, the same principle applies to their Black Friday upgrade price. Upgraders get a worse deal than new buyers so I am still not upgrading 😢

[@frederikclement7795]

@@IanWaugh yes indeed! Like many others, I skip one or two versions to make it more interesting. I also found your komplete 14 video very interesting. I’m just a tinkerer, not a musician, and i have 12 standard. Pretty sure i will update to 14, but still on the fence for the ultimate edition. So i will use your method and first determine what i would really like. 😊

[@IanWaugh]

@@frederikclement7795 Ha! Ha! Thanks Frederik. It's a very tempting time of year, I don't think you'll get much of a better deal on Komplete than you can at the moment. I just like playing with all the toys 😊 but there are plugins I've hardly looked at yet and I still haven't installed all the expansions from the PREVIOUS update, mainly as I don't use Maschine and accessing the drums, for example, in Battery or like is a bit of a pain. So choose wiseley

[@frederikclement7795]

@@IanWaugh I will, or at least I will try 😄. And I will definitely follow you channel ! Thanks & take care!

[@IanWaugh]

@@frederikclement7795 Thanks Frederik 👍

[@MrKompozytor]

I upgrade every 2 versions if they give me the discount. This time it was about 150€ for the short period of time. I also use the the installment plan.

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Edward - That's a plan 😊 I think itt depends on how many new synths you are getting that you really want, and what their cost is.

[@mrfuzztone]

Arturia has put a lot of effort into creating and maintaining the V Collection. The price isn't too high for what you get. The latest versions load much faster. That may also be true by just applying the latest V8 updates. I had already updated to V9 when I noticed the improvement. I also like the U-He Synths, Omnisphere, Synapse Audio synths, Roland synths, Full Bucket, XILS and a whole lot more. I ordered an Oberheim OB-X8 to have a piece of history. That is the cost of a few V Collections. Ha.

[@IanWaugh]

Yes, one of the great things about Arturia as a company, as mentioned in the video, is that they do release updates for their software and hardware. I wasn't complaining about the overall price as such, but observing that the update isn't such good value. Not noticed any difference in loading speed but they all seem to load fairly quickly. An OB-X8 - Wow! I'm waiting for Behringer to catch up 😀

[@mrfuzztone]

@@IanWaugh I use PluginGuru Unify to host all my VST synths and sounds libraries. A big improvement in loading speed when I switch to different Arturia synths as of the V9 update. Unless somebody wants the Augmented stuff the V9 update does seem to have few new things. But the Augmented instruments do have a lot. The Arturia SQ80 synth is also very good but many people probably won't use it. I already owned that one. Got a $50 discount on the V9 update price.

[@mrfuzztone]

@@IanWaugh The OB-X8 has appeal to me because Tom Oberheim, Dave Smith and Marcus Ryle worked on it. I am almost as old as Dave was.

[@IanWaugh]

@@mrfuzztone Not tried a unifyying plugin. I do use Komplete a lot which finds sounds across multiple instruments. I love the SQ80-V! Used it in a few pieces including this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYLFnKOprc15gJo

[@IanWaugh]

@@mrfuzztone Really sad about Dave 😢 He really wasn't that old and had much to offer the synth community. The OB-X8 looks awesome!

[@richardhermans4457]

Regarding your comment about how some channels specialize in comparing vintage hardware synths and digital emulations, I don't really care what these folks say or demonstrate, it's much like the digital CD vs analog vinyl album debate. To me if it sounds good, that's all that matters. I enjoy listening to vinyl, even the new reissues and remasters and also buy cds. The cost of new vinyl releases has risen so much and will go higher due to demand, I have to be more selective. Personally, over the years I've accumulated quite a few soft synths, like the Waldorf PPG, several versions of the Prophet 5, VS, Minimonstah, Oddity, etc and a bunch of stuff from Native Instruments. The more I download, the less I use. So I don't see myself getting 32 synths..I get overwhelmed when writing if I have TOO many choices. I think the best and most accurate sounding vintage analog emulation synth out there is from GForce who just released their Oberheim OB-X clone. It is probably the best softsynth I've ever heard. But I passed on it, because it sounds SO HUGE..I think it would blow all your other tracks out of the mix. Thanks for another great informative video discussing the Pros and Cons of software. You really do help folks with your honest presentation Ian, and help people make an informed decision.

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Richard - Thank you soooo much for your very kind comments. I'm certainly with you on the 'if it sounds good' front. I also agree that it's easy to get overwhelmed by choice 😱 It happens to em frequently 😀 I spend hours running through sounds, making up bits of tunes then moving on... Not a good workflow 😮 G Force has a very good reputation but, other than those mentioned and Native Instruments, I try very hard not to buy any more software sounds! I succeed. Up to a point. Usually... 😀

[@richardhermans4457]

@@IanWaugh the only software keyboard I'm interested in, is theArturia SQ80V. If they run a sale on it, I'll jump on it.

[@IanWaugh]

@@richardhermans4457 It's definitely one of my favourites , Richard 👍 There are currently 2 pieces on this channel that use it 😀

[@generoley]

Hi Ian… I have a question for you and I hope you will offer your best guess. I have a MacBook Pro that meets Arturia’s minimum specs for V Collection 9 except…. It runs at 2.5 gigahertz instead of the recommended 3.4 gigahertz. Do you think I could get started with Collection 9 on that computer or should I just wait until I can afford a new Mac. Soft synths are something I don’t have much experience with so I value your advice. Thanks!

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Gene - Most minimum specs are the absolute rock bottom spec you need. At least they used to be. Maybe they've changed and I honestly don't know how close to the bone Arturia's minimum specs are. And it's not just a matter of running the standalone versions - you'd probably want to run them in a DAW for recording and that needs more CPU power. Some standalone versions may run but other may stutter. If you're planning on upgrading soon and there's a good deal on V Collection it might be worth buying so you can maybe try some before upgrading. Otherwise I'd wait till you upgrade. Hope that helps 😊

[@generoley]

@@IanWaugh Wise advice Ian, thanks.

[@IanWaugh]

@@generoley 😊 What you gonna do?

[@IanWaugh]

@@generoley You might find this interesting (and possibly helpful): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZXGfqpqZtp_hM0

[@generoley]

@@IanWaugh very sobering Ian, thanks for that link! I have Omnisphere 2 on the old MacBook and it runs good enough to play the presets with an occasional hiccup. The video proves the V Collection is much more CPU hungry than Omnisphere… so I better just wait and get a modern Mac first. Guess I was just suffering from a severe case of GAS that was stinking up my thinking!!! Thanks for pulling me out of that GAS cloud just in the nick of time… who knows, I might have tried to run the V Collection on one of my old Pentium computers! LOL! Thanks again for your level headed advice. The Mac M1 and M2 processors look great… he had a lot of tracks running in the video.

[@СтаниславР-в7и]

thanks for the wonderful video! Do you like Falcon2 from UVI?

[@IanWaugh]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Not tried Falcon although UVI has a good reputation and it looks amazing albeit at a price 😮 I'm still working through all the V Collection presets 😀

[@harrybee3093]

I got the V collection 8 and Arturia makes me an upgrade price of 299,- EUR for their version 9. That is ridiculous.

[@IanWaugh]

Hi Harry - Yes it is! That's why I'm not upgrading this time. The Black Friday deal is probably about 99 Euro but I already have some of the new instruments so it's still not worthwhile for me but if you want the new releases, might be worth checking.

[@morten1]

2023: We have EVERYTHING. So why does music suck nowadays. hmmmmm Maybe it's not about the THINGS

[@IanWaugh]

Good music has never been about the gear but sometimes I think we get lost in it 😊

[@samprock]

So the hack is to just buy it at $199? :) i don't think so, two hundred every two years is not very nice. Good talk Ian!

[@IanWaugh]

Hey Sam - Yes, that's the hack. $199 is better than €199 😀 but, yes, the upgrade deal is pretty poor...

[@daze1945]

Since Arturia started to concentrate on hardware their pricing, especially upgrades have gone out of proportion.

[@IanWaugh]

Hi Daze - You could be right! Best option, I think, is to wait for deals or skip an upgrade or two.

[@wiseoldfool]

Are you a Geordie?

[@IanWaugh]

No fooling you, Barry 😊

[@freelancer8822]

I don't buy anything from Arturia anymore! You buy one version and they delete what you bought in the next version and expect you to pay an extra $149 for so called upgrade. Case in point Spark VDM 3. Would not fall for their marketing BS ever again!! Additionally their soft synths are mediocre at best! Save your money and buy the real deal! (Or Uhe)!

[@IanWaugh]

Hi - Sorry to hear you've had a bad experience with Arturia but you must speak as you find. I don't have Spark. They won't actually delete your existing version although, as I say in the video, the standard upgrade prices are ridiculous

[@icecreaman2010]

NOT WORTH THE MONEY UPGRADING TO VERSION 9. THERE NOT GIVING YOU ENOUGH NEW KEYBOARDS

[@IanWaugh]

Yes, I think you're right. No credit given to existing customers 😭

[@samprock]

yup .... have to wait for V10 than....

[@l.romain6447]

I recently upgraded for 149$, it left a salty taste in my mouth 👎🏿

[@IanWaugh]

Yeah, I thought that was the normal upgrade price but I think it's actually €199. Still not a fair deal for existing customers...