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[@stevedavis770]

On the last one I assumed the car driver was getting out to apologise to the biker. Seems not and his car just left blocking the carriageway.

[@Frederick.J.Marshall]

Doesn’t even acknowledge him lol, did he even see him or was he in a world of his own?

[@stevewallis8197]

Not remotely bothered, was he? What a bellend....

[@CED99]

WTF? What's he doing walking down the road to see if it really is closed? While leaving his motor blocking the oncoming lane? SMH

[@MrHabushi]

That was the passenger.

[@andrewnorris5415]

To be fair it was the passenger. Unless it was LDH. They are often victims of bad drivers too. Cannot control them.

[@philnotley5138]

The most annoying and dangerous thing is when emerging from a slip road is the driver who makes an effort to close your gap up by speeding up !

[@timprice5]

Yep, although even worse are those that dawdle on the slip road at 40-50mph and you can see 70mph traffic coming up behind you. The amount of times I've had to floor it onto the carriageway to get out of trouble - one particular junction on the M5 near me is so bad for people doing this.

[@JulianShagworthy]

The minute I see somebody doing this, I instantly move out into the lane to prevent them from doing so. This is especially true when it's busy, when causing a slip road to come to a standstill is dangerous.

[@timprice5]

@@JulianShagworthy I'm not sure I understand. I'm talking about when you are behind someone coming onto the motorway. I'm not saying I prevent People coming off the sliproad onto the carriageway when I am on the carriageway

[@JulianShagworthy]

@@timprice5 Sorry, my comment was directed at the original issue of people on the main carriageway trying to close down gaps - I never tolerate it. Agree entirely with your comment.

[@timprice5]

@@JulianShagworthy no worries. My mistake!

[@phillpotts9047]

Hello all, Ashley BIG Thamk you for showing my clip on your selected. I was your 'First' Clip' and appreciate your words and some of people's comments. Pleased that it highlighted how important it is to ensure you drive at the appropriate speed to give yourself time to react. Thanks again Ashley and all. 👍👍👍

[@ashley_neal]

Thank you too for sending in!

[@nallen0]

I’ve been thinking about the updates to the Highway Code a lot…and I’ve (currently) come to the conclusion that stopping to let pedestrians cross while exiting a roundabout seems to cause more problems than it solves, unless there are zero other cars at the roundabout at that moment. I have not yet had a time where doing the right thing has felt entirely safe. Drivers behind me are just not anticipating this behaviour. I desperately want to do the right thing, and want to protect pedestrians as best I can, but I’m not yet sure this update to the code is the best way to do that.

[@dwaggys3322]

Not sure its the "right thing" if it doesnt feel safe (I am agreeing with you), indeed even Ashley seems to have changed his stance on this and now seems to recognise that its not always the best thing to do (this was confirmed by the DVSA within weeks of the change to the HC).

[@nallen0]

@@dwaggys3322 Exactly - there are so few times where it is safe that I don’t think it’s a positive change. I actually think the change causes more confusion. Worst case scenarios: 1. pedestrians who know the rule may expect it and drivers don’t do it 2. a driver may not do it safely and the driver behind may crash into them, putting everyone, including the pedestrians at greater risk.

[@kiradotee]

I'm of a strong opinion that any roundabout that needs this feature (or even ALL roundabouts if we wanted to) should just get zebra crossings. There's a tiny number of roundabouts I've encountered with them and they work perfectly. No issue for pedestrians or driver or for the driver behind the vehicle stopping as everyone knows what's going on. It's very explicit. You can see the zebra crossing and everyone and their dog knows how they work. As a motorcyclist I choose to ignore the current addition to the Highway Code for personal safety. I rather not create a situation myself where it's easier for people to run me over. Plus, it still dangerous for the pedestrian as the car driver behind might choose to overtake me (as I don't occupy as much space on the road and it would likely be very possible to slide in).

[@dark_memer42]

​@@kiradotee These situations confuse everybody. It would be more practical to relocate crossings in these locations 50 yards up the road for the safety of pedestrians.

[@PazuzuM666]

Just carry on as you are. I think it's ludicrous to stop to let people walk across. You are more likely to get hit from behind or someone to overtake you and run them over@! Also by stopping you might be causing problems round the roundabout. I don't think it's ever a hood idea to stop on a roundabout.

[@williamfence566]

Merging is about planning. looking early enough and picking the gap . The HGV is likely to be on a constant speed ( especially in a 50mph roadworks ) which makes it easier to assess. A touch more gas earlier up the slip road to get up to 50 and the car would have slipped in nicely.

[@Frost_Saber]

99% of the time I would agree, no issues doing that with my car, my brother's however is fairly gutless certainly on uphill merges and sometimes a little help is nice, it's not like a huge adjustment is needed most of the time.

[@samal3196]

As the driver there, the two lorries were muuuch closer than they appeared on camera. At the time, I'm pretty sure I was cruising at 50 MPH most of the way down the slip road.

[@williamstrachan]

The HGV is likely to be doing 55 or so, they never do 50. See it all the time when I slow for a 50 set of roadworks and they just blast past...

[@kenbrown2808]

fair point. I'm always looking for my gap as soon as I have visibility, and I actually prefer, if allowed, to be going a little faster, because it's easier to drop back a little to get in the gap than to surge ahead.

[@rhodrijohn7411]

​@@samal3196 then you should have accelerated to get Infront, or done what you should have behind a give way line and given way

[@kenbrown2808]

in Oregon's highway code, it does say that a person already on a motorway must allow a person approaching on a slip road to merge. of course, the local police officer I asked about the requirement to indicate at the end of a merge (yes, it is required, here) said it even better. "you're not allowed to run them off the road."

[@dr_ned_flanders]

They should have unmarked police cars with learner plates to stop people harassing learner drivers. That would be funny to see when some idiot gets caught.

[@stephentait8734]

wont be interesting, but not sure where the law is on that

[@phillwainewright4221]

I'm fairly sure you're not allowed to display L plates once you've passed your test. (Except driving school cars, obv.)

[@smilerbob]

@@phillwainewright4221 It could be a new police officer “learning” the ways of the force 😉

[@Chaosvex]

@@phillwainewright4221 I believe you can. The guidance states "should not", rather than "must not", so it isn't illegal.

[@CakeFine]

In our force area, we've had success by putting 'P' plates on unmarked police cars :)

[@daughterofthestars08]

I was taught as an American driver to do your best to fit into traffic and get up to speed when merging, but ALSO to try to make space for people who are merging if I'm already on the highway. If traffic is pretty solid in the near lane but there's space in the far lane, the polite thing to do is to get over so that the people merging have plenty of room. If you can't get over, then slowing slightly to make a gap in front of you for someone to slot into is the next best thing.

[@TheSimCaptain]

It's the same in the UK, and it's also common sense, which seems to be lacking today.

[@picklestheswift]

I don't think I'll ever have reactions as quick as the person in the first clip.

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

If it was me, my reverse gear would most likely get jammed and i'd grind my gears to my fate.

[@picklestheswift]

@@rufusgreenleaf2466 yep that's exactly how I can imagine I would react!

[@Tailspin80]

He was going a bit fast for the conditions and I’m not sure reversing actually made any difference as the van had virtually stopped by then. Good idea though. I think I’d just have braked hard and squeezed as far left as possible. If you look there is a flat muddy area to move over to.

[@portsmouth1781]

​@@rufusgreenleaf2466 suspect it might have been an auto

[@tarnmonath]

Absolutely agree about joining from a slip road. It should be like a team effort, with everyone doing what they can to keep traffic moving. I've had arguments with people from the 'those on the carriageway have right of way' brigade. Having said that, it seemed to me that in this case the cam car could have been further forward, and could have found the middle spot between the lorries, with just a little more speed.

[@lauriethefish2470]

While yes, those on the carriageway technically have right of way, with a slip road, if there isn't a gap, vehicles NEED to create one. That's because slip roads end and it's not like you can just stop completely on a slip road and give way without causing danger.

[@tarnmonath]

@@lauriethefish2470 As Ashley is often at pains to point out, there's no such thing as 'right of way' on the road. There is 'priority', but even that comes with conditions. I've had cars stop in front of me on slip roads. Quite scary. But I've not been too close, and I've been able to slip past and find my gap.

[@kiohaha]

those on the carriageway have right of way' brigade what is the opposite called then "I need a mile to join a motorway brigade" ? I want to know what the other side should be called, to be devils advocate. bit of fun here if a lorry has to brake from 60 to 30 for that car to join the faster motorway, then the lorry behind will slam on the brake from 60 to 25 most likely and that follows suit all the way back till a break in the traffic or the last car has to brake to 0. stopping is way worse on a motorway then a short slipway. lorry was 100% right to keep going as he has to think about people on the faster road behind him rear ending him or any braking he might do may cause others to slam on the brakes to come down to his speed. alternatively the lorries could of all just go into the middle lane and then everyone can join the motorway easier at whatever speed they wanted 40 or 50mph. but in truth in this video we all can agree there was loads of room for that car, he just wanted a mile long gap to join in remember I just said that to be devils advocate. bit of fun. road driving can never be perfect what in life ever is the videos best advice at @6:50 you should never merge if you are going to cause anyone to slow down, stop, swerve or sear.

[@elliotridley-smith9304]

I might have said this on a previous upload. I worked with an ex fireman who was a truck driver. His theory was that most people are conditioned to just see cars and other vehicles don't register mentally.

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

I kinda agree, as a truck driver myself. And people don't learn about other vehicles, either. It would be nice if people at least knew that when overtaking a truck, then slowing right after that we need a lot more time, especially if we have a load on board because we might be braking, but the load isn't and still wants to continue, so makes us slow down and stop that much slower.

[@PedroConejo1939]

Lorry drivers suffer from SMIDSY too.

[@kenbrown2808]

anyone who has taken a motorcycle safety course of any quality at all will have been taught the same thing.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@pelicanofpunishment6 stopping empty is often worse than stopping full, because you have no weight on the tires.

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

@@kenbrown2808 Through enough. No weight pushing you but know weight pressing you down and providing some weight to slow you. Sort of a...lose one thing, lose another situation.

[@R04drunner1]

Another excellent video. At 07:59 I think the cyclist is invisible behind the Mini's A-pillar. It shows the importance of the driver shifting his/her head to look around both sides of the A-Pillar when approaching a junction!

[@TheGiff7]

Totally this. I also think many motorists are hardwired to only look for motor vehicles and lorries. They don’t seem to be capable of observing cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians.

[@R04drunner1]

@@TheGiff7 PSNI posted a great tip about this. On road trips with the family, have a competition to see who can spot the most cyclists or bikers. Then, when they grow up and start driving, they will already be in the habit of scanning for bikers and cyclists.

[@CheeseParachute]

Agreed - I had a painful altercation with a car bonnet due to this. The driver said I was in her blind spot - hopefully she's since made the leap to move her head to compensate (and also slows down before entering roundabouts). She had the good grace to be very sorry, anyway!

[@bestintheworld568]

The amount of times I've been honked for letting a pedestrian cross according to the new laws...just the other day I stopped to let someone cross at a junction and the guy behind me slammed his horn on. Credit to the pedestrian here, but she stopped before crossing, stormed over to the guy that honked me and gave him a right earful. It was glorious.

[@ditch3827]

Well done and keep doing the right thing and ignore the honking idiots

[@davidsomething4867]

Same happened to me. Car driver behind was in a rush and honked, I jus put my arms up. He did not say anything when we stopped next to each other at the lights, I was waiting for him to, lol.

[@bestintheworld568]

@@davidsomething4867 I didn’t even react aside look in my rear view mirror. It was the pedestrian who was more cheesed off than I was 😂

[@EnterShikari01]

Yeah be careful someone doesn’t run in to the back of you cos they aren’t expecting some clown to just come to a full stop in an inappropriate situation. Definitely you.

[@ditch3827]

@@EnterShikari01 Stopping to let a pedestrian cross where the pedestrian has priority is not only required but also a most appropriate situation. The driver who fails to anticipate that the car in front might stop at a pedestrian crossing point to allow a pedestrian to cross in not just a clown but a dangerous clown.

[@angrycyclist9387]

Regarding the merging onto a motorway clip. If the driver speed up to a speed that was greater than the lorries, there wouldn't have been a problem. So many people don't seem to want to get to a suitable speed for a motorway whilst they're still on the slip road. Same for leaving the motorway, so many people slow down before they're on the slip road.

[@davidr2105]

The rule that you should give way to pedestrians standing on the pavement when turning off roundabouts or onto side roads is dangerous, especially on 2 lane roads. Most the time they stand and try and give way back to you and you run the risk of being rear ended every time. You're told not to wave them across so it ends in an awkward stand-off. We grew up with the instruction not to cross the road until it was clear. I'm not sure what's wrong with "be prepared to stop and give way to crossing pedestrians". As seen at 9:05, the pedestrian goes from standing safely on the pavement to feeling rushed and runs across the road- on a 2 lane road especially this is dangerous

[@RetroAdzz]

Perfect summing up

[@ben4190]

That first really was top notch! =) Not sure how many would have wacked it in reverse at all, let alone that quickly. May have been an automatic which would have made things way easier too.

[@kiradotee]

Yeah on a manual it would be quicker to grab a bible than find the reverse.

[@IndiBrony]

I dunno, I drive manual and teach automatic. Assuming you know your car, I think slamming it into reverse on a manual is quicker. In an automatic you've got to wait for the car itself to engage the gear.

[@MrS9b]

For the mini at @ 8:00 , that's almost certainly an A pillar blind spot. You HAVE to move your head around approaching junctions and crossings.

[@CheeseParachute]

Yep, I got taken out on a roundabout for that reason. The girl had a quick look at the roundabout, thought it was clear and didn't bother slowing down or moving her head before she entered it - if she had slowed, I'd have emerged from behind her A-pillar. People check for car-sized objects and above, but often forget about the people-sized ones.

[@davidpierce3217]

"YOU ABSOLUTE MUPPET!!" 🤣

[@gftyhify]

6:27 I recognise that street. It’s in North Berwick. I love it when clips from Scotland where I live are featured on this channel

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Thank you. I often set myself a challenge to "find the place" on a Viewers' Driving Fail and I thought this looked like the west end of Haddington, so wasn't too far out. Even though the driver sounded like she might not be from round there.

[@daddybeediary]

The cheek of that last guy, looked like he didn't even acknowledge the riders existence one little bit! 🤬 Great video as always Ashley, take care mate

[@WhiteDieselShed]

Probably didn't see him, even if they watch the video they will probably think they did everything right. Bikers fault for being on the correct side of the road? Looking for somewhere to flytip or somewhere to use as a toilet or did they move the cones and drive through I wonder? Obviously driving safely was low down on the cars priority list.

[@funkycowie]

@@WhiteDieselShed The passenger got back in the car and they drove off down the road I had coem from.

[@Mikeb1001]

Not cheek, just total and utter incompetence to the point they shouldn’t be on the road!

[@AffyR]

yep shocking

[@grahamnutt8958]

@1:30 approx - Good question, Ash. If the Van driver was on the 📱 then it demonstrates *yet again* the level of distraction caused. Yesterday's NY vid was a Primary example of this. I very much appreciated yours and @Jon C feedback there - duly noted 👍. First clip - yes; excellent save! Stay safe out there.

[@derSonoar]

4:25 The one time during my driving lessons that we were (aggressively) tailgated, my instructor was angrier at the guy than I was put of by it. Also it was on the "Autobahn" and behind us was a BMW SUV, because of curse it was.

[@The_CrackedPot_Christian]

Ah, the perennial A pillar blind spot at roundabouts. Happened to me at a RB recently. Expletives were enforced😅

[@pompeymonkey3271]

10/10 Ashley! Always assume the worst-case scenario and drive accordingly. The only thing you should ever trust while on the road is physics.

[@EnterShikari01]

Trust is not black and white it’s varying degrees like probability

[@madmick9205]

I like the 4 S's. Has a long time biker who's had a 'few' people pull out not seeing me. I have it drummed in to me 'do they see me. I have to be honest, I My driving and my attitude in general has calmed down a lot due these video's and Ashley's advice. Between Ashley and the Black Belt Barrister and Jorden Peterson. I have learned a lot about life. Thank you.

[@robbrady4649]

I thought the passenger was getting out of the car to move the cones @ 10:28, but perhaps they'd just had enough of the appalling driving and would rather walk.

[@richcolour]

yes 😄

[@nayyyythan]

For me on that sliproad clip, the dash camera deliberately didn't take that gap properly. There was plenty of room but they failed to match speed (which they clearly could do since they sped.up once they emerged!)

[@kiradotee]

Yeah all they need is a bit more press on the gas and they would have fitted easily in the slightly decently sized gap.

[@GS-pk9rd]

Exactly. I hadn't spotted that he then sped up to get into lane 2, so why couldn't he have sped up on the slip road?!

[@MrAndrewBeattie]

Great catch in the first clip with the quick reverse to stop a collision with the van. I am a new Tesla owner (1000 miles) and yesterday I was driving on single track roads in Scotland, where stop-and-reverse is a frequent requirement. As I learn the vehicle, I am finding that I will stop and reverse towards a passing place behind me considerably quicker than most people can react with a clutch and gearbox. With practice and muscle memory, this reaction should only get faster.

[@matthewjohnson6597]

Agree, the car joining the M5 just needed to accelerate a bit more and there would have been no issue....

[@scmtuk3662]

To the driver of the car in the last clip "Uh, yeah... um.... we haven't quite managed to develop the technology for cars to turn into liquid and pass through solid objects such as cones and "road closed" signs yet, but by all means, if you wait there for, maybe a few decades, _maybe_ something will happen".

[@ibs5080]

At around 2:20 with the unhelpful HGV for the cammers emerge onto the motorway. To me it looked like the cammer had more room in front of them to utilise and put more distance between themselves and the unhelpful HGV behind. We don't know what speed the cammer was doing and yes I saw the 50 mph speed limit signs on the slip road. But I might have been tempted to temporarily exceed that 50 mph limit and accelerate a bit more briskly to be further away from the rear HGV and then once merged, ease off slightly if above 50 mph. And bear in mind speedos often under read, plus speed limits often have that tolerance. And there was no sign warning of safety cameras. I'm not advocating speeding but in a situation like that I would say it might be safer to temporarily exceed the limit given the situation.

[@MikeWalls7829]

Totally, many times I have been on the speed limit and a situation arises where I think I'd be better off escaping forwards, I will go as fast as it takes for a short period and then brake back to the speed limit. It's saved me from getting into a mess when passing slip roads and several cars are needing space that isn't there, I give them that space and let them get on with it behind me.

[@EffMTee]

Poor driving from cammer, plenty of room to merge.

[@samal3196]

Cammer here! The gap in front was a lot smaller in reality due to how dashcams work. At the time, I was doing 50 MPH if memory serves, that's real mph not speedo mph.

[@ibs5080]

@@samal3196 Appreciate your feedback. Obviously I wasn't there so you are in a far better and more qualified position to judge and comment than I am. Kudos also to you for submitting your clip. I wish you safe driving.

[@dust_d_bin]

One if the best channels on youtube, thank you

[@ashley_neal]

Wow, thanks!

[@johnrussell5245]

Living in the Devon countryside where single track roads are everywhere, I can confirm, it's almost always the white vans who travel too fast for the visibility. The problem is they're on piece work and if they don't travel fast they won't be given the jobs.

[@ditch3827]

Whereas if they hit a pedestrian walking on the road, they will?

[@rhwoodwork119]

I automatically assumed everyone is capable of being an idiot. Keeps me safe.

[@cityplanner3063]

For merging on the motorway I believe the car merging should do more of the hard work but the car on the motorway needs to provide that gap and help with the flow.

[@Zeyr01]

2:19 fair enough in this case of knocking off cruise control for a few sec as it is a 50. But when you're on a 70 keep in mind most trucks are cruising at 55 so you can easily use that extra speed to get past and stop them catching rather than dawdling.

[@TwopintTilbs]

Clip at 9.00 regarding giving way to the pedestrians... in my view giving way here just increases risk for all involved. The camera car is at risk of being shunted from behind from a vehicle who is either not expecting or, cannot see from their position the pedestrians, so in this scenario the camera car would be pushed forward into where the pedestrians are crossing! Also if you notice how the pedestrians feel the need to move quickly across, again increasing their risk of slipping/tripping.

[@ditch3827]

Don't be silly. If the cammer was at risk of being shunted from behind then that means he was going too fast for the conditions. Presumably using your logic you don't stop for pedestrians at Zebra crossings where the rules are exactly the same. Pedestrians have priority at both exit and entrance junctions at roundabouts and you should give way to them just as you would at a Zebra Cross. Pedestrians are increasingly expecting drivers to obey the Highway code and so some may well step out in front of you. if you were to hit such a pedestrian while breaking the law (and once they have a foot on the carriageway then it is the law) then you would be in serious trouble. Do the save and sensible thing: slow down and give way to pedestrians at all pedestrian crossing points.

[@ditch3827]

@@Chambers36TheEnter What change? Pedestrians have always had priority at junctions. The change is that they have made it clearer in the highway code. Makes total sense to me.

[@ditch3827]

@@Chambers36TheEnter Yes that is a change but a pretty minor one as you always had to slow and be prepared to stop in case a pedestrian did step out just before you got there.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

I was riding along Aintree Lane crossing Valley Road on to Copplehouse Lane. A woman in an Escort decided to go as the lights started to change, was turning right from Copplehouse Lane. She hit me in the middle of the Kirkby bound lanes and I came to a full stop next to a police car at the traffic lights on Copplehouse Lane. They looked at my unmoving "corpse" lit up their lights and went after the Escort which was motoring down towards Kirkby. They pulled her at the M57 roundabout. She denied all knowledge of seeing or hitting me, she was not drunk, she couldn't exit the driver's door because the car was so badly damaged. Her offside front light cluster was smashed, bonnet, o/f/wing bent out and the driver's door twisted. When she saw the damage she complained that someone had done it to her car, this got a really good laugh in court. I got two months in hospital and three months of rehab, along with a wrecked knee that still causes issues over 40 years later. Some drivers only take in what they want to, every driver should have to ride a motorcycle for at least a year and sit an extended retest every 5 years. Passing the L test means that you are safe but not that you are a good driver. Advanced courses are the way to get better.

[@ibs5080]

That very last clip: If you are going to make a turn (especially across oncoming traffic) make sure your exit road is actually clear before you commit! In this case, the exit road was coned off. But could also be pedestrians crossing (and remember the new HC rules for that) or a traffic tailback up to the junction. Assess early!

[@nickbea3443]

But the sat nav told the driver to do it!

[@ibs5080]

@@nickbea3443 Oh yes that does happen. I've had to override mine on several occasions.

[@kenbrown2808]

it sure looked like that driver was doing the opposite of assessing early.

[@MartinParnham]

The cones are big enough and bright enough to see from a distance so there are very few excuses I can think of for not seeing them from far enough away.

[@kiradotee]

It seems for some reason the passenger needed to get there, so the driver was thinking of letting them off there. Although executed in the worst possible way. STILL blocking the oncoming lane after near collision and after the passenger left. 🤯 The driver is on another level for Darwin Award.

[@seraphina985]

In that first clip you can hear what I assume must be their quick reflexes operating the gear lever in record quick time, impressive work.

[@bailey125]

2:06 Cammer could have easily accelerated to get to more the middle of the gap. The white/green lorry was keeping a constant speed.

[@economicprisoner]

That would be following too close though.

[@bailey125]

@@economicprisoner The space was large enough to merge into but the driver was too timid to use it properly, and as such he almost got pit-maneuvered by the lorry.

[@samal3196]

As the cammer, friendly reminder that the camera makes gaps look a lot bigger than they are! There was not a lot of space in front there either.

[@bailey125]

@@samal3196 In that regard, the rear camera must have also made the gap look bigger, so the driver was even closer to the lorry. He had plenty of room to speed up slightly and merge safer.

[@samal3196]

@@bailey125 Rear camera doesn't have the same super wide angle the front cam does, but you're not wrong that the lorry behind WAS super close. In the situation, I had to choose between being way too close to a lorry in front or behind, and I chose behind.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

8:03 when you're cycling around a roundabout, you have to be aware that motor vehicles are looking further around the roundabout because they're looking for other fast moving vehicles, the to best things that I've found to do, is be prepared for them to pull out, and stare at the driver as you approach them - when you make eye contact, you are far more noticeable.

[@jontownsend8090]

You hit the nail on the head there, those who only care about priority, no more said.

[@uk53781]

9:12, sorry but its been long enough now that is obvious the rule should be revoked. As you say the risks need to be assessed and for 99% of cases you should just be carefull and be ready to stop as you always should on all juctions.

[@_Steven_S]

That last clip, were they getting out to move the cones?

[@Frederick.J.Marshall]

Seems like it, and he still doesn’t notice the motorcyclist or chooses to ignore him.

[@funkycowie]

No he just gets back in the car and then they drove off.

[@VILL4IN-1]

The driver did not get out but the passenger did.

[@cakehole53]

Just checked the registration plate for the black Vauxhall, R28JLJ, following the learner driver and, according to DVLA, it should be a white Citroen. Checked 9th April at 14.47.

[@huey_UK]

Yep, white petrol Citroën DS3, I'd checked too. Could be the clip is old and they've changed the car registration recently, but judging by the driving attitude, more likely a (badly) cloned plate.

[@archechme]

I think that the guy merging on the M5 should have gained a little more speed to gain more space in front of the HGV but the HGV should have helped by backing off a little bit and helping out.

[@peromo9397]

And your point at the end of 'I haven't been seen is my 'Moto'. As a motorcyclist I ride as if I am 'invisible', and ride accordingly. I make my mistakes, I have my own faults, yet I am still here. I put that down to the overarching principle of I am invisible and I ride accordingly; and when I make mistakes, make every effort not to make that mistake twice.

[@DemiGod..]

02:20 The highway code is quite clear here "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they do advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident." 09:03 But was it safe to give way to the pedestrians? The car driver behind clearly did not expect the viewer to stop and could have ran into the back of the viewer.

[@ditch3827]

Yes of course it was safe to give way to the pedestrians. They had priority and so giving way was the correct thing to do.

[@DemiGod..]

@@ditch3827 Considering the car honking did not expect the cammer to stop, without rear camera footage , we can't know if it was safe. Lets say he were being tailgated or a lorry was coming up behind him, would it be safe to stop?

[@ditch3827]

@@DemiGod.. If you are approaching a pedestrian crossing with pedestrians there, then you should expect the car to stop. The pedestrian might have expected the traffic to obey the highway code and stepped out and been hit. Remember the rules and law for roundabout exit junctions are exactly the same as for Zebra crossings. The sensible and safe thing to do is to drive at an appropriate speed so that you can stop safely to let pedestrians cross and avoid hitting them. And of course not to tailgate which is an offence.

[@DemiGod..]

@@ditch3827 The rules are not the same as a zebra crossing. One is MUST , the other is SHOULD.

[@ditch3827]

@@DemiGod.. On the contrary, both are SHOULD for pedestrians waiting to cross (though still a section 3ZA(2) offence if you don't stop) and both are must once the pedestrian has started to cross, albeit under different laws but the effect is the same.

[@T13HS]

If you live somewhere with narrow lanes like in that first clip, you have to learn to react like that as there are so many drivers who will zoom round blind bends at breakneck speed. I’ve never had to reverse to avoid an accident before, that’s impressive

[@DAVE3422460]

leaves his car blocking the road & gets walks past the cones CRAZY

[@kenbrown2808]

first clip: they were both going a wee bit fast, but your viewer definitely had better reaction time. second clip: I wonder how the vans could see, because the viewer didn't have as much sight distance as I would want to decide to overtake.

[@ryanmitcham5522]

2:00 That's the issue with average speed check. Clearly the safe thing here is a short burst of acceleration to get to the available gap, but I bet the cammer felt restricted from doing so because of the speed.

[@KM-nr3br]

This is very often the case, especially when other drivers on the road don’t take the limit seriously, or feel it’s too low and glue themselves to it

[@EffMTee]

Its called AVERAGE for a reason, you can go over for a short burst

[@ditch3827]

@@EffMTee Not legally though

[@samal3196]

Cammer here! Hit the nail on the head pretty much mate- I was at the 50 limit while going down the slip road up to the gap. The other thing to note is that the space in front looks a lot bigger than it is due to the camera.

[@mikeheasman2594]

But accelerates once they join the main road.

[@iallso1]

My thoughts on the clip of the car merging onto the slip road is that I would have made it clear I was having that space between the two trucks, and then created my safe space to the forward one if I was unable to move out into lane 2. But also if it had been the truck merging, they would have forced their way in whether room was given or not.

[@samcerulean1412]

People go around roundabouts to fast and then blame the people emerging. If you circle a roundabout at a reasonable speed you reduce the risk of colliding with anyone. It’s not rocket science yet too many flaw the vehicle entering

[@ditch3827]

Best to take roundabout slow as there might be a pedestrian crossing at the exit junction.

[@ianslater2936]

Very insightful and a tad worrisome too as we have to drive with these folk! Nice video compilation.

[@nayyyythan]

Giving way to pedestrians exiting a roundabout is so complex, not only do you need to know what's behind. But you also have a knock on effect on the people joining all around you. One of the worst rule changes ever made imo. Giving way entering a roundabout different story makes total sense, same with junctions

[@kiradotee]

Fully agree. They should instead slam zebra crossings on the roundabouts instead of this rule. Some small number of roundabouts had them before this rule and they work perfectly.

[@jhjhjhjhjh-l5i]

Crossing the road at a roundabout is so complex. Giving way to pedestrians is comparatively simple, it starts with reducing your speed, after that it is much simpler - admittedly multi-lane roundabouts make things much more difficult.

[@1ninjatiger]

I always either move over or adjust my speed to allow vehicles to join the motorway…it’s not difficult if you keep your eyes on whats going on around.

[@graemewilliams6697]

The merge onto the M5 should have gone a bit quicker and gone to the middle of the space. The HGV should not have to slow down for a car to merge although if there was space to do so he could have moved over, but it looked too busy to do so.

[@SDennis89]

Big pet peeve of mine. Doesn't matter how much room is in front of you, some people sit on your front quarter and expect you to slow down!?!

[@Me.ImCounting]

That first scooter clip was at the bottom of Morell Avenue in Oxford. A road I use almost daily on a motorbike!

[@L-8]

That cammer must be living life in slow motion 😅

[@Blorp_]

He is neo

[@daylen577]

7:48 you literally can't report this where I live. Unless it gets posted on social media and gains significant traction there, they won't do anything even with video evidence clearly showing a readable license plate. There's been a few instances of people driving very fast and posting it on social media or people being recorded pushing other people off the road, but that's attempted murder level stuff. Anything less than that just gets ignored, not even a citation sent through the mail.

[@RustOnWheels]

About “you haven’t been seen”; I live in a place with lots of corners and roundabouts. With cars these days and their safe thick A-pillars bicyclists, pedestrians and even cars and trucks can be hidden when their taking the roundabout movement aligns perfectly with your forward movement. I have started to move my head like an impatient parrot, from left to right, because I had two occasions where a car or cyclist scared the hell out of me that way. Conversely, I take any roundabouts with more caution. Did they see me? I don’t plunge myself on the roundabout and search for eye contact or at least look for the driver’s head and which direction it is pointing. When I was younger I have been an absolute pr*ck by driving fast on a roundabout, never braking if my side was clear, and being mad when people would get in front of me not giving way. Luckily I sold that car which made me do that and learned how stupid it is to ASSume and TAKING way in stead of giving.

[@kiradotee]

I think with roundabouts it shouldn't be about whether the other driver has seen you. As you shouldn't be impacting them at all. The question is can you join the roundabout with enough space to the other driver without having to slow them down or be startled. If yes - join the roundabout, if not - wait for the opportunity. The more you use the vehicle the more you're jn touch with how quickly you can merge onto a road/roundabout and hence calibrate your decision making using this data.

[@RustOnWheels]

@@kiradotee knowing if you have been seen can be a life saver with the situation I mean by it: even if you are already on the roundabout and others must give way before driving onto the roundabout, it may be that you have been hidden behind their A-pillar and they see an empty roundabout they can safely drive onto. Here we have lots of roundabouts with cycling paths on the outer perimeter which have priority. They are used to cycle without stopping because cars always brake for them. Since I’m a cyclist too I don’t assume a driver has seen me because that curve I take can line up exactly with their eyes, or they can be distracted by other things. It’s good to read the actions of the car before assuming they will stop. Do you see them brake hard enough? Can you see their eyes? Are they traveling slow enough to brake on time?

[@davidsomething4867]

That first clip the van, what an awesome save by the viewer. I don't think I could of done that. For one I'm in an auto and two I have 290BHP so would of prob panicked put in a hedge in reverse, lol. Supposed to drive and be able to stop on your side of the road in the distance you can see. On a single track road you need to half that distance. I drive a similar road on my commute and faced the same but the oncoming car did stop in time but the BMW behind the oncoming car skidded and almost went into the car coming the other way, the BMW driver defo left more than one skid mark at least, lol.

[@kennethjessop6073]

Similar happened to me once, but the sprinter went up the bank and fell on to its side. Funny thing, the brakes don’t work so well that way, so I had to drive backwards faster till the van slithered to a halt.

[@davemorgan8775]

Where I live in Wales that’s an everyday occurrence. Get delivery drivers with all wheels locked up slithering straight for you, you get a sixth sense to keep your hand near the gear lever and hope your car has a syncro mesh on reverse gear. !

[@TheDOWfan]

The Zafira in the 4:08 clip might be the chavviest car I have ever seen. Who puts black alloys, stickers and a SPOILER on an old people carrier? I'm not surprised he's driving like a total knob, they guy clearly hates himself and everyone around him.

[@dominicbuckley8309]

The sort of person who has false plates, as the DVLA says that reg is for a white Citreon.

[@stahlschorsch]

6:38 that clip alone shows you guys really love your Fiestas 😅

[@ibs5080]

First clip: Yes that was a good save and to be honest I might not even have thought to quickly put it in reverse to avoid an accident. I might have been driving a tad slower than the cammer though but I realise cameras can distort.

[@Rroff2]

Was a touch late braking/easing off into the corners but to be fair I took a corner a touch faster than I normally would the other day and had a close call with a car in the middle of the road :( though I don't think it would have made much odds what speed I was doing rather than a crawl.

[@MikeWalls7829]

Well here's your chance to remember that and always think of putting it into reverse the moment something like that happens (also always know if there's someone behind you...)

[@MikeWalls7829]

@Flying Bagpipe haha yeah do also remember that you need to stop first rather than slamming into reverse on sight, unless you have some kind of crazy powerful car with 4wd, then maybe you could do that

[@ArnoldClarke]

NO, never stop whilst exiting a round about. Did you you not hear the horns beeping? Imagine the carnage. This rule is lobbied by insurance companies. This guy has now been bought.

[@ditch3827]

Don't be silly. Of course you should stop if there are pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross on the pedestrian crossing at the exit junction of the roundabout. That is the rule of the road and once the pedestrian has start crossing then it is the law. Even failing to stop for a waiting pedestrian is a section 3ZA(2) offence. Pedestrians expect drivers to obey the rules of the road and may well step out in front of you expecting you to stop as you should. If you were to hit such a pedestrian then you could be disqualified and if they were to die then you could get 5 years in prison. Always expect to stop when exiting a roundabout and always expect the car in front to stop, particularly if there are pedestrians about.

[@quit-button]

@@ditch3827 🤦‍♀

[@ArnoldClarke]

@@ditch3827 Did you wear two masks ditch? Sounds like you’ve had five jabs as well!!!!

[@ditch3827]

@@ArnoldClarke No but I do expect drivers to obey the highway code, to be considerate and not endanger the lives of other road users. It seems that that is an alien concept to you.

[@ArnoldClarke]

@@ditch3827 like aliens exist? Could I change the fact that you suffer from psychosis and are severely delusional.

[@DKKatano]

The first video is why I always drive with a slower speed on roads like that, because you can't see what is coming toward you, and I want to be able to stop in time. Some years ago I was driving on a road similar to this one, and out of nowhere a bus was coming toward me with to much speed. I managed to stop in time and got out as far as I could to make room for the bus. Two weeks ago, I had the same situration just with a truck. Because of a hill on the opposite side of the truck driver's side, and the fact the ground was very soft. I stopped, and with slow speed I got my car out on the soft field on my side, it made room for the truck, and I didn't get stuck because I made sure I had solid road on the other side of the car. My wheels didn't even spin, but yeah this shows how important it is to adjust your speed to your surroundings. :) If you merge in to a highway here in Denmark, and you are in front of the truck, it has to slow down to let you in. That behaiver here in Denmark would give a 1 strick on the driverlicense for driving to close. The red light runner. If I had send that to my local police station, they wouldn't do anything about it, because you can't see a clear face. I have before send videos with clear a clear face of the driver, and still they won't do anything about it. Funny because they really want us citizens to report and send videos, but after many send videos and no help from the police, I have stopped sending video clips to them, because they don't do anything.

[@djcraney]

7:55 the home of rugby football, gotta love the delayed bad use of the horn

[@graemesime1915]

6:30 "You Absolute Muppet", is just so English; You don't get that on the Aussie videos...

[@Zeem4]

That's one of the things I love about the Aussie dashcam channels - the "colourful" language.

[@jackspence2627]

9:00 I agree with most things you say but this change in the highway code will cause more accidents. It just increases the chances of human error 10 fold. Niave beyond words.

[@cactusbase3088]

02:05 - Can't see the HGV did anything that wrong. The driver with the dashcam clearly started slowing down when they should have instead sped up and merged into the more than adequate gap between the HGVs. Clearly after making an event out of nothing just to get on a channel like this.

[@MarkJT1000]

Exactly. There was a gap there and they should have accelerated to catch up with the van ahead. Hesitant drivers cause so many problems.

[@ryanmitcham5522]

It's the effect of the average speed check. Already doing 50, and the HGV probably slightly more, he can't accelerate into the gap ahead, despite that being the safest option.

[@JustOneQuestion]

@@ryanmitcham5522 He's not limited to 50, he can speed up and then slow down to produce an average of 50, but more importantly he accelerates when he gets into lane 2 so I think your theory has a few holes in it.

[@EffMTee]

@@ryanmitcham5522 🤣

[@samal3196]

@@JustOneQuestion Actually, I didn't accelerate when I switched lanes. Was cruise control'd at 50 the whole time.

[@Evolixe]

On the merging in the M5 clip; I do think it's mostly up to the people merging in to find a spot to merge in, equal or slightly greater speed than traffic already driving there and then merge in. Honestly to me it didn't look like the lorry did anything wrong. The passenger car had power to spare, but it wasn't used. In my opinion thats a far greater mistake than the lorry not slowing down. Gotta remember that asking already moving traffic to slow down for your merge has an echoeing effect on everything behind it. At least when its busy it does. This is how we get holdups and jams on highway junctions

[@smilerbob]

Good reactions from the driver in the first clip 👍 However, I wonder if the speed from both drivers is now a little slower going down poor visibility single track roads?

[@joeutm212]

Cameras tend to distort how quick they’re actually going, usually they’ll be going 5 ish mph slower than it looks and everything’s closer than it looks on the camera too

[@PedroConejo1939]

It is incomprehensible how many people drive stupidly quickly on narrow roads, and in my experience, it's often locals who have allowed familiarity to breed contempt.

[@smilerbob]

@@PedroConejo1939 Familiarity is one the the worst enemies of a driver as focus tends to be lower amd speeds faster. Hands up, I got myself familiar on a road I used to drive many years ago and then one day I almost lost the front on my vehicle to a deer. That was enough to change my behaviour immediately as that could’ve easily been a person and fatal…hence my original “I wonder of they are now driving slower” comment as it is usually the scare that changes us

[@nowillnoway]

Cam car *easily* stopped in less than half the distance he could see to be clear...that van, not so much... Pace was maybe a little higher than I would go for, but not excessive IMO.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@nowillnoway The van was downhill on a damp, muddy road. Madness to be travelling as fast as he was, and by doing so, he took away a good 50% of the cammer's braking distance.

[@johnbower7452]

@2:23 there was a conversation about this by a lorry driver elsewhere on KZbin; it was cut between he was in a lorry and it was the van's tough luck, basiclly he should have fitted in; and the fact the lorry had a clear lane to his right. I pointed out they were both crap. The van for not adjusting his speed better and the lorry for being downright ignorant.

[@frogandspanner]

6:53 It's the 5 Ss: you don't want the to s*** themselves.

[@andyclark8991]

2:16 that’s what I do. On motorways, duel carriageways always do that, see a car coming down a slip road give it room. Also if/when on a motorway when/if see a lorry driver. (If it’s safe to move to the middle lane) I do giving the lorry more room

[@rupertm2542]

So I have asked this before on the BBB channel, with no credible reply from anyone. In my opinion, and going by wording in the Highway Code, Road Junctions and Roundabouts are two different things in definition. Therefore the ruling on pedestrians does not apply at a roundabout surely? As far as I am aware you’re not meant to suddenly stop on a roundabout to allow a person to cross the exit you intend to use (Unless of corse they’re in the road and making their way over, or a zebra crossing is marked). Therefore can you please clarify where you’re taking your definitions from on this matter? While I appreciate it may be a nice thing to do, I’m quite confident I have no legal obligation to do so at roundabout.

[@ashley_neal]

I have confirmation from the DVSA that this rule applies on the entrance and exit to roundabouts. But don't forget this rule is "should" so if it's more dangerous to give away, he may have to carry on. kzbin.info/door/_QdDflGx1D8Jh9mvQ7D8uQcommunity?lb=UgkxBd1Vaf8EFkO6Hr55mx7fozf32IVPX_KB

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

​@@ashley_neal To be honest i think a lot of people would use that "Should" as a bargaining chip to make the excuse "Meh, it's too dangerous to slow down i'll keep going". To a lot of drivers "Shoulds" are just an advisory which is a term that's nearly always ignored.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

@@ashley_neal Thanks for re-posting this, I missed it at the time. Reading it did not reassure me - it reads like a fudge. It does not satisfactorily cover why the 7 rules for roundabouts (184-190) are a separate section from the 14 for junctions (170-183). Nor why rule 187 "watch out for and give plenty of room to" a variety of users including "pedestrians who may be crossing the approach and exit roads", is short of the instruction to "give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross" in rule 170, if roundabouts should be considered junctions. My impression is that the DVSA has spotted this ambiguity and doesn't know what to do about it; that nobody really intended that rule 170 should apply to roundabouts, but nobody wants to say on record that it doesn't. I tend to agree with a lot of your viewers' reservations about giving way but would add a bit of nuance. At a mini-roundabout in a 20mph town centre, as you demonstrated in Formby last year, giving way to pedestrians is entirely natural to a considerate driver and rule 170 is empowering if anything. To apply rule 170 to roundabouts in non-residential areas with limits at 40 or 50mph, where many drivers will be taking the roundabout itself at 30, the culture shift is of a different order. The roundabout junctions of the Liverpool boulevards we often see you on fall somewhere in between. I suspect your DVSA media officer was conscious of all this and hoped to cover all bases with the call to exercise judgement and assess four criteria: presence of traffic following; speed of approach; body language and visibility of pedestrians and the clarity of their intention to cross or not. Maybe, given the ambiguity of the Highway Code itself, that was the only option, but it would be better to clear up at top level the ambiguity of which rules apply where: the DVSA should not have to rely on dictionary definitions to clarify its own code.

[@rupertm2542]

Thank you for your reply. I do feel however and without any clarification in the Highway Code I would have a sticky conversation with my insurance company should I suddenly stop and have someone plough in to the back of me. Confident the opposing insurer would lean on mine under the proviso I’ve stopped suddenly without just cause and thus been partially, or fully to blame for the accident. On the flip side of that, you have over zealous police who will not understand the difference between should and must. Clarification is formally required in my opinion.

[@itsmyview2024]

when riding a motorcycle I ALWAYS assume I have not been seen or there is a very good chance of death or injury, 45 yearson the road have taught me that and more. Still alive, just the cancer to do the rest now.

[@ashley_neal]

Keep a positive frame of mind going forward also Chris. Thanks for your comment 👊

[@chrispop99]

There's no way I would expect an HGV to lift off to let me merge at a slip road, especially as it looked like it was uphill.

[@bobbyladd]

I had an accident once which luckily only ended up with cracked bumpers. I misjudged a slight downhill descent towards a car at a junction in icy conditions and must have slowly skidded about 50m in a very slow 8-9 secs. I just went into panic mode trying to stop instead of doing the now obvious and trying to reverse instead. It was a Christmas Eve too which now makes me extra cautious and I prefer not to drive on that day now if I can avoid it.

[@Batters56]

2:15 I’ll write what I always write. The lorry drove in perfect accordance to the Highway Code. And if we don’t like the fact that that is in accordance with the Highway Code then we should call for a change to include the guidance that Ashley advocates to help those on the slip road if possible.

[@Mort221]

To tack on, the cammer could've done better by speeding up a little with the aim of moving into lane 2 quickly. That or be more proactive, slow down themselves then boot it when needed. Too many people drive with a feather on the throttle in the name of fuel economy, sometimes you need to give it some. A slip road is one of those times.

[@KevinHorrox]

Agree the lorry did nothing wrong. IMO the cam POV had plenty of room to accelerate lightly to create a more suitable gap to their rear bumper.

[@thomascarroll9556]

He didn’t appear to have left the stopping distance as per the Highway Code, which I think is a main contribution of difficulties for people coming on to a motorway, yes I agree that the people merging on have prime responsibility but if there were more people on the motorway being problem solvers then there would be less incidents.

[@TillyOrifice]

Yes, if you drive in accordance with the Highway Code and have an accident, it doesn't really count as an accident, does it?

[@LadyBovine]

I'm not from the UK, but in sure you have general guidelines or laws that should make it unnecessary to have it spelled out explicitly in your highway code that you should help someone merging from a sliproad if possible. Otherwise I suppose if it's not in the code then you can just be an inconsiderate c*nt? I suppose I should be glad i don't have to drive where you drive then.

[@Mikeb1001]

A moment’s appreciation for the MK1 Fiesta to the right of shot at 9:00!

[@PP-cm4re]

That last clip. The car driver could have at least apologised to the rider when he got out of his car. Didn’t even acknowledge him. Some people can be really self-centred.

[@PedroConejo1939]

It was the passenger who got out, but a profound apology was owed.

[@vanguardsr368]

1:32 that happened to me when i was out on my motorbike the other day in the lake district, the only reason i wasnt hit was cause i was able to squeeze against the curb. the guy didn't swerve until he was parallel to me. can you guess what was in his hand? absolute tuna melt he was

[@criostoirocuinn]

Very irritating at 8:04 when they beep at you even though they're in the wrong

[@nobbycheeseman2915]

That's the Clifton Road/Lower Hillmorton Road Roundabout in Rugby, same as the clip at 4:10, and there are a lot of idiots in Rugby.

[@andyclark8991]

8:07 Very poor driving from the red mini driver, very poor and beeping your horn, makes your poor driving even worse. (Red mini driver)

[@robg521]

10:05, looks like that car may have been intending go into the blocked road and go around the barriers by bumping up onto the footpath to get through.

[@Levermonkey]

Your viewer @02:00 should have accelerated gently and merged shortly forward of the centre of the gap. The A&B lorry did not close the gap and had left more than sufficient room for the merging car. This was evidenced by the camera car moving to the centre of the space after they had merged before changing lane. It is not tailgating if you put yourself there. Confidence issue? In the final clip, where did the car driver think they were going?

[@Kaiser-ks3yq]

2:20 he seemed to push in in font of the lorry, I would have gone a bit further up, I've seen too many dashcam clips of people pit-maneuvering themselves on lorries, but I can kind of see how he wasn't happy with the space.

[@Rroff2]

Didn't have much margin though while leaving a safe space to the lorry in front - all it would have taken was the lorry behind to ease off a tiny bit and it would have all been a non issue and the lorry driver would have had as good a view as anyone of the space ahead and the traffic joining.

[@50upss]

5:48 is the worst nightmare for me as a scooter rider. My scooter has been stolen once and there’s been many times that I’ve come close to an incident.

[@jakebrennan7685]

I cannot believe that last clip, damn near seriously injures or kills the biker and he blocks the carriageway and fucks off like it's nothing. Not right in the head that bloke.

[@DrawingNo1]

A big bugbear of mine is drivers who don't slow down at roundabouts especially when it is busy and difficult to emerge safely.

[@ibs5080]

The terrible overtakes at around 1:03. Maybe I'm getting old but I just wouldn't bother overtaking on a two way road just because of a vehicle in front going slightly slower than I'd like. I prefer to just hang well back, chill out and enjoy the ride. Yes, folks have a schedule to keep but honestly, is it worth the extra risk and stress? If it's a slow moving tractor and it's safe and legal, that's another matter but I wouldn't do it on a two way road just for a few extra mph. There may even be temporary road works up ahead and I've seen that happen shortly after others have performed dangerous overtakes...and gained nothing.

[@Jonc25]

Doesn't get you anywhere these days. Catch them up in the next town or village or at the next pot hole repairs.😂

[@ibs5080]

@@Jonc25 Exactly Jon!

[@smilerbob]

@@Jonc25 Pothole repairs? You are in dreamland again Jon 🤣🤣

[@smilerbob]

@@ibs5080 Agree with you 100%. Unless they are really slow (tractor for example) then I would only attempt if the road is wide enough, fast enough and long enough otherwise hang back and wait. Usually adds less than a minute overall and much less risk / stress

[@Jonc25]

@@smilerbob Wishful thinking.😁

[@sparkeli4513]

"ride like your invisible" always springs to mind when I ride my motorbike.

[@Narthalion]

2:05 sorry Ash, gotta disagree with you, whilst we always try and make space, at the end of the day a slip road has give way lines at the end of it baring all responsibility to the joiner to make sure they slip into traffic, he had extra space he could've accelerated into briefly to not enter the HGV's braking distance, also considering his midlift is down and the cab says ABPotatoes, he's likely close to 44 ton & driving a merc, knocking the cruise off for a few seconds would not only hinder the royal mail vehicle behind causing a knock on effect of everyone braking in lane 1, but he's going to take surprisingly longer to get back up to 50, I know you did your Class 2 training but there's a substantial weight difference from 18-44ton with acceleration. And then the cammer saying "tailgait extremely closely" sorry but you have put yourself in that situation by joining directly in front of him, if he had joined in front of me that close he would've had a courteous beep to say, btw I'm right here and I'm heavy and you're putting yourself at an added risk, not to mention also the entire time until he pulls into lane 2 and we can see there was nothing, we're totally unaware if there's a car hanging out next to the HGV in question stopping him from lane changing to allow your viewer more space. Poor driving by the cam car in my opinion.

[@Rroff2]

I can see your point but with the traffic otherwise he'd have had to come to a complete stop at the end of the slip road which isn't ideal and while he had some space ahead it was a thin margin between using it and a safe distance to the lorry ahead. Those trucks had as good a view as anyone of what the spacing was like ahead and the traffic joining and far more time to have done something about it than people coming down the slip road. While no one was obliged to do anything another case where everyone just doing a little something more would have made it a non-issue.

[@Narthalion]

@@Rroff2 I think the HGV should've changed lanes, if I had been in that situation I would've just moved across had Ibeen able to, now that we know he had the ability to do so I am surprised he didn't, but purely from the camera car and what he could see, he had zero way of knowing if that HGV could've moved or not, whilst it wouldn't be ideal to stop, that is ultimately what he should've done, for example my lorry has a very reactive AEBS sensor and had he joined that close in front of me likely would've set it off, which would've created an even bigger issue as I would've had to either accelerate to stop the automatic braking, or it would've locked the brakes on and would've caused a pile up... Cam car could've seen that he didn't have space to join so held back on the slip road potentially and looked for a bigger gap, he also hung out in front of the lorry too long before making that lane change to clear the danger, was far more interested in his 5 seconds of fame and slating the lorry driver than actually doing anything about his own poor awareness.

[@thomasnichol5127]

@@Narthalion He didn't have the ability to change lanes. The car in lane 2 was far too close. The lorry would have cutup the car if it changed lanes.

[@Narthalion]

@@thomasnichol5127 Good point

[@EffMTee]

@@Rroff2 wrong

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A great piece of self control by the lady who called the other driver an absolute muppet.