Ashley's Analysis | Jeremy Vine Nearly Got Run Over

We've got another clip from Jeremy Vine to analyse. I'd like to thank Jeremy for exacerbating all these problems so I can teach people what not to do.
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[@theaikidoka]

Being a cyclist isn't Jeremy Vine's problem. His problem is that his career is built on a low-grade confrontational interviewing style, where he's the star of the show. The man simply hasn't been able to understand that the world as a whole isn't the same as the studio. Charging into situations, shouting the odds and declaring yourself the victim works well for viewing figures, but has serious potential side-effects in reality. He will NEVER, EVER learn from this or any other actual expert help, because his whole career has taught him that making something from nothing is the way to go. Don't bother offering to help him, he doesn't care, he thinks he's right already. Just pray that he doesn't take anyone else down with him when he inevitably screws up in a permanent way.

[@johnb8956]

Best way I’ve ever seen explained why I hate this cretin.

[@paulmacwales]

I would have said that if I was as eloquent as you!

[@robg521]

@@paulmacwales He has already taken someone out with his antics, just the family of the man that committed suicide after appearing on his show.

[@smilerbob]

@@robg521 I think that was a different Jeremy

[@StevenGreenGuz]

He sounds like the anti-Parky.

[@russsuter6858]

​Jeremy is so obsessed with being right all the time that one of these days, he's going to be dead right.

[@susanwestern6434]

Ha ha. Yep.

[@ronniemacdonald2768]

“Here lies the body of William Jay, Who died maintaining his right of way- He was right, dead right, as he sped along, But he’s just as dead as if he were wrong.”

[@martingriffiths4047]

🤞

[@MMR_LM]

I'm genuinely surprised this one didn't kill him

[@colettemikaelson160]

This!!

[@PeterChapman-rg6gr]

This is a prime example of what not to do when you have identified a problem ahead of you.

[@donaldscott8782]

Yes, as an experienced cyclist in London I am shocked at Jeremy's actions here. Like you say, my actions would have been to slow down, make myself visible and then offer help to the driver to correct his mistake and to smile and make light if the situation acknowledging we're all human.

[@_Shadbolt_]

I cycle too. I might not have offered to help the driver reverse if I was commuting maybe. But you've got the evidence right in front of you that they're not a good driver... so why on EARTH would you pass behind them blind? I think i'd have probably given him a massively wide berth if i did try to pass him, but i think i would have just stood and waited to work out how not to get killed. Too many cyclists seem to forget that being right doesn't make you immortal.

[@andyadogs]

I think it all happens so fast that making the perfect judgement is hard to do, easy when watching back on video but in the moment it's a completely different experience, I drive a van every day and it's mayhem out there so I'm always expecting something to happen so it's no surprise to me when it does

[@charleslouden6600]

The woke bloke throws himself into a dangerous situation.

[@robrob253]

Well Jeremy is a celebrity, ooh, sorry that should have said twat...

[@derekheeps1244]

EXACTLY

[@mikeo9863]

I'm sure the van driver learnt a valuable lesson I'm sure Jeremy Vine learnt nothing

[@bellerophonchallen8861]

Jeremy Vine, learn? Surely it is OUR job to learn, Jeremy's to teach, that's the premise of his radio show......🙂

[@doowkcaj]

Surely the van driver should have learnt his lesson when learning to drive, not after taking a job controlling 2+ tonnes of metal in the centre of london. Sure Jeremy doesn't shower himself in glory but that doesn't excuse the incompetence shown a supposedly trained professional driver.

[@TillyOrifice]

@@doowkcaj "Should have". Well, I guess he should have, but there was nothing unusual about the van driver's mistakes, even from a professional driver. Negotiating city streets safely is pretty hard, and it can take years to get really good at it, and that's before you even consider the effects of time pressure, and having to find your way around places that may be unfamiliar. There's a lot of visual information to process quickly, and people under pressure sometimes miss things. You can condemn the van driver all you want because he didn't measure up to what you consider an acceptable standard, but you, and Jeremy ,are still going to have to deal with that standard of driving.

[@petesmitt]

@@doowkcaj 'trained professional driver'.. are you for real? the driver was clearly from a country that hands out driving licences like confetti and he's allowed to use that foreign licence to drive in the UK.

[@mrLoftladder]

@@petesmitt "Trained professional driver"? Hardly, beyond having passed my driving test in 1986 I have no training in driving trucks of this size but with my licence, I could get a job tomorrow doing so and in fact, I do drive, for pleasure, a van larger (longer, similar width/height) than this one here that I purchased and drove straight off the forecourt.

[@paulturner5208]

My summary of this clip was along the lines of "Oh look, there's someone who can't drive very well, let's put myself into their blind spot while they panic" - yes the van driver is the cause, but JV powered through a number of clear chances to make it a total non event.

[@lovelybitofsquirrel]

Of course he did, non events don't go viral!

[@keithmacdonal2466]

The video sums up the points of both road users errors very well. To pick up on the concept of blind spots in 2023. With the high cost of new vans and the low cost of reversing and all round camera. It is shocking cameras are not compulsory on any vehicle without an internal rear view mirror

[@viperz888]

I grew up on a farm where there were huge machines with poor visibility, making unpredictable movements. Blows my mind how quickly and closely Jeremy got to that van and then seemed to stop directly behind it! Almost like he was looking to make a scene!

[@dcarbs2979]

And could quite easily have been under it. The driver seemed less than instant to realise he'd hit him.

[@Beatlefan67]

Surely not?!

[@stevel9914]

he wanted to bang on the back of the van for dramatic effect ... then found out that the driver who had already made one error ... made another in not knowing Vine was behind him ... and promptly ran him over. Vine is a menace to himself and others on the road.

[@jwalker7567]

Same here. NEVER stand behind a van or lorry, or ANY blind spot when someone is driving it. It’s amazing that even after being run over because he’s not been seen Jeremy stays BEHIND the van in the blind spot. MOVE TO THE SIDE AND WAVE DOWN THE DRIVER! Don’t stand behind the reversing van!

[@RestlessBs3]

It’s a long way to the back of those vehicles when your in the cab driving it. Road noise and panicking there is no way to say if the driver was malicious or not, I’d doubt it.

[@mattbrown4833]

There were two people who failed to prevent that collision. I regularly cycle in London and if I saw a van driving the wrong way down the road I would give it an extremely wide berth, not merrily cycle into its blind spot. As a cyclist you have to assume people will do stupid things and will not see you. Pedestrians will step in front of you. The only collision I’ve had in the past few years was a minor shunt by a rickshaw. If trouble keeps finding you, at some point you have to ask if you may be inviting it.

[@christopherfanshawe1425]

I would further add that Jeremy appeared to be faster to the horn than the brake. Do it the other way round and space and time become your friends.

[@martinbutchers9497]

I always say if you got time to sound the horn it's not that serious if it was you'll be on your brakes

[@Bullwinkle39]

​@@martinbutchers9497100% the truth

[@JoannaHammond]

This also applies to a hell of a lot of car drivers.. I'm about to crash, SOUND THE HORN!!!! Shit, I crashed. If they had used that time to brake or avoid the situation they may not have crashed.

[@martinbutchers9497]

@@JoannaHammond As Jeremy does here, it's more important to tell people off than avoid an accident.

[@ChrisCreats]

Also where did he think the driver would go it’s obvious that the driver had no where else to go

[@mandolinic]

You can always rely on Jeremy to turn a drama into a crisis.

[@WoodyinBright]

Or even a non-event into a drama into a crisis!

[@yourmum955]

@@WoodyinBrightdrivers ignoring road signings aren’t a non event

[@GrahamHazlehurst]

​@yourmum955 I would have been if Vine had stopped when he could have easily, instead of making things worse, he acted like a Russian crash for cash scammed.

[@TruthTortoise81]

@@yourmum955 The driver didn't ignore the road signs, he made an honest mistake. Do you actually think he turned into oncoming traffic on purpose?

[@CJEdu-wm8nu]

​@@yourmum955We get it, you cycle

[@crcomments8509]

I accidentally drove down a similar cycle lane in London a few months ago, the sign that said no left turn was hidden by a lorry unloading building materials. I used to enjoy driving in London, but it’s become so intense now and you are having to watch out for and compute so many things instantaneously and continuously. Even some of the signage myself and a work colleague walked past afterwards neither of us could work out exactly what it meant and we’ve both been driving over 20 years. I also cycle quite a lot as well and am sick to death of Jeremy Vine and the ridiculous way he deals with things, similar to Cycling Gaz on you tube.

[@vfclists]

I am here to defend CycleGaz. CycleGaz does not hesitate to give bad drivers an earful. He is a fast but careful rider who always obeys the highway code.

[@ChristianThomasTring]

@@vfclists Or at least he is on the bits he posts and lets us see.

[@paulhuk5234]

At 1.38 it shows a right turn arrow on the road so you would think its ok to turn right. Big mistake on the highway maintenance or whoever does signage . The layout looks recently changed.

[@DannyEastes]

I can understand the confusion, but the marking is to show that this is the lane to be in to turn right at the next right turn. As Ashley pointed out, there are several indicators that this one way road is not the right turn, and the van driver missed every single one.

[@CalmingAnxiety]

I commented on one of Jeremy's previous videos on his Twitter feed. He "blocked" me instantly. I spent 22 years as a paramedic and was commenting from the perspective of avoidance. Jeremy appears to take every opportunity to cause issues for social media effect. And judging by all the comments here and on other reaction videos to this incident It seems I am not alone in this view point. He will soon end up and yet another unneccessary statistic.

[@johnw2758]

Oh he doesn't like being called out on it......a narcissist never does..................

[@katierscott8771]

Completely agree, my first reaction, as an Ambulance Technician, was 'he's going into a hazard WAY to fast.' As Ashley often says, make peoples mistakes a 'non event' - in this case Vine deliberately put himself in harms way. Yes the Van drive made a big mistake, but Vine made a bigger one.

[@petesmitt]

His mate Cycling Mikey is different.. he loves confrontation, whether with motorists or commenters.

[@wulfsorenson8859]

He’s something from the Stasi era - a vile establishment snitch who drives around with a camera to deliberately provoke incidents then uploads them to social media to ruin people’s lives why he’s funded by the taxpayer on a 6 figure salary.

[@davetkd666]

Yeah he blocked me for accusing him of misogyny after he repeatedly filmed a woman on her mobile in her car. I wasn't condoning her phone use and made that clear, but had a major issue with the fact he repeatedly positioned himself to specifically target her. It's all about ego and nothing about better roads. He needs the virtue that he assumes being a cyclist gives him to claim he's better than everyday people.

[@Blahsheep]

I've never seen an accident where it was so preventable in my life. He basically wanted to get run over.

[@DemiGod..]

No, he just wanted to stop the van driver getting away as knew he had to reverse.

[@richardgiles2484]

So wish he had as it may have put an end to his crusade against drivers and that other premardona Mikey who never do anything 6:32 wrong 😂😂😂

[@135Ops]

@@DemiGod.. He knew he had to reverse so why then did he put himself & bike behind the van?

[@justincase6645]

Vine is a Richard head , he caused his own accident All he had to do was slow down and let the van make its own mistakes , and i disageee vine was warning the van driver , i believe he was ticking off the driver for going in front of him

[@geoffvalenti]

He saw the van in plenty of time, managed to shout, sound his horn and stop and then proceeded to go and stand behind it in such an obvious blind spot that nobody, with even half a brain, would ever consider doing. Then he seems surprised when the vehicle starts reversing! These are the actions of people from countries without roads, that have been transported from the middle of the desert and dumped in the centre of London. Certainly not what you'd expect from a seasoned road user like Jeremy Vine.

[@matthewhenthorn3343]

I think he should go on a hazard awareness course, with maybe an instructor talking with him as they go, so he can figure out the safest response. I think it's the power of the camera. the moment people start liking the content, it becomes the bate for more content like that and puts himself at even bigger risk.

[@catman2629]

I ride a motorcycle , there’s being right and dead right , you have to be aware other road users will make mistakes

[@glenpywell8769]

I'm glad you picked up on this video and completely agree with you. The van driver made some serious errors. But then Jeremy creates a potenially serious incident for social media content. He's helping no-one's cause. He actively puts himself in danger here to make content.

[@derekheeps1244]

The van driver made one simple and forgivable error , given the misleading right turn markings , the lack of 'no right turn' and 'no entry' signage and , going by his accent , he appeared to be foreign , so probably used to driving on the right .

[@Ethanolamine]

Ashley is 100% correct here, imagine standing behind a van whilst someone is driving it. How insane can you be

[@glenhallworth2966]

Vine only need to stop and asses the danger but o no seams to think he is indestructible clown 🤡

[@roaduser6438]

Vine was not standing behind the van when hit.

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

One thing the camera shows is a lack of head movement at the junction indicating no attempt to gain peripheral awareness. I cycle. I also motorcycle. On a motorbike that would be a straight failure of a driving test. I think cyclists could learn a little from motorcycle standards. In this case Vine was right and I must say the driver, whilst making a mistake also handled it well. I was pleased vine accepted the apology.

[@roaduser6438]

@@BertWald-wp9pzThe camera is a 360 degree camera with the footage and focus of the footage being assigned during editing. As such Vine's head could have done a complete 360 and you wouldn't be able to tell. So I'm afraid the footage does not demonstrate a lack of head movement/observation. Had this been a gopro or similar you would have been correct.

[@deemauk2591]

No, that junction is very difficult to interpret and very poorly designed. There is a ‘normal’ layout of junctions that everyone is used to, people do things by memory muscle, they need a big mental jog to make them do something else. Anti flow cycle lanes that are the size of a car lane could have had Barrie’s to prevent car being able to enter them and still allow cycles through. The right hand road filter literally would indicate you turn into the cycle lane. Standing directly behind the truck as it reversed was just stupid.

[@simonjohn9525]

Vine seems to deliberately go looking for situations to become a victim rather than behaving rationally and accepting that others can use the road too and sometimes make mistakes.

[@madam9736]

I do think the problem is that there is a an arrow turning right on the second lane which is part of the old layout. This has caused many a problem and here again it causes the driver to err. The council is too blame for that causing confusion.

[@RyanHastings861]

Massive well-done to that bus driver who observed the incident unfold across the junction and make every attempt to alert the van driver.

[@tomburton8239]

Jeremy Vine is in the business of looking for trouble. The van made a mistake. But JV could have held back, paused, waited. Instead he piled-in, cycled around the back and STOPPED - and so put himself into harm’s way. Spotting a great video opportunity, he then made a giant, photogenic fuss of it.

[@steveanderson6523]

Absolutely....couldn't agree more.

[@qwertycycling7851]

He didn't stop behind it. He slowed then tried to manouvre past rather than stopping in the junction and while he was doing so was run into... While clearly from the aftermath, stopping in the junction would have been safer, last time I did that, to avoid a HGV that jumped lights, 3 drivers, at least 2 of whom had watched the near miss, drove at me because the lights had now changed and they couldn't possibly wait for the near accident to clear...

[@HildyPops]

​@@qwertycycling7851it would have been perfectly safe for JV to stop in the junction without fear of being driven at by other vehicles as he was in the dedicated cycle lane and therefore not in the potential path of other motorised vehicles. Staying put would have been the most sensible (and definitely the safest) option, thereby leaving the van driver enough time and space to rectify his mistake. Instead, JV decided to continue on and put himself in unnecessary danger. All this would have been made much clearer visually if JV didn't insist on filming his encounters in the ridiculous 360° format but I guess it doesn't make for such dramatic footage 🙄

[@80s_kid.]

@@qwertycycling7851 didn't you see him stop and turn his bars left in to the van ? if you didn't, specsavers have a great deal right now on their website

[@yourmum955]

@@HildyPopsHe was in the cycle lane that the dumbass driving the van just drove straight into with blatant signage telling him not too, someone else could’ve very well done exactly the same

[@dah4527]

I've seen the video, prompted by Ashley's post, and it's clear that Vine rides a high horse rather than a bike and goes out looking for trouble.

[@PedroConejo1939]

Nicely put.

[@highdownmartin]

@@PedroConejo1939exactly what I was going to put. ! Thumbs up

[@Nickle314]

It should read Discredit Jeremy Vine

[@genwoolfe]

As does Bikeling Mickey.

[@Joe-lb8qn]

In many of his clips he accelerates towards danger this time he slows down and then stops into danger !

[@jamesthomas3187]

Jeremy Vine is a complete and utter ringpiece. I got headhunted for a job a few years back and got it in my contract they wouldn't have his show on the workshop radio 😂 He and cycling Mikey are one of a kind.

[@catman2629]

Cycling Mikey wouldn’t try any of his nonsense in the townships back home

[@JerGoes]

I have to say I don't always agree with your take Ashley but in this instance as someone who enjoys cycling myself you are 100% spot on.

[@inglesconmatt]

He's one of those people who, even when the cycling lane is blocked, he'll keep going because he has "right of way". I genuinely think he enjoys deliberately getting in trouble just to prove how bad the other person is. He should've just stopped before when the van was turning. The whole thing is so avoidable.

[@paulscottrobson]

He's also driving round Central London. I lived and worked and drove there 30 years ago so god alone knows what it's like now. Even then these sort of mistakes were endemic. You can't assume people will ride or drive remotely sensibly. Even if people are doing their best they will inevitably get it wrong sometime. Ashley is right about the missed cues, but none of them are blatant.

[@inglesconmatt]

@@paulscottrobson Agreed. It's easy to miss a turn or misread how a junction works. The most blatant mistake here is Jeremy putting himself in the van's blindspot, when the van's next move was to clearly reverse to rectify his mistake.

[@DrRusty5]

Reminds me of the classic video by Casey Neistat, around New York... Of course, Casey is a class act at making a video about a serious issue without making it a "Soap Opera" drama.

[@inglesconmatt]

@@DrRusty5 Hahah it reminded me of that too. The difference is, as you mentioned, that he did all of that as a bit of a joke and only crashed into inanimate objects. He also didn't almost get run over 🤣

[@m0ther0ne]

Funny how JV never shows a video of car driving in London, I wonder why? 😂

[@jacob1121]

Jeremy had plenty of space to go around the back of the van but Jeremy, being himself decided to slow down and stop behind the van for no reason other than creating a situation.

[@bmused55]

I saw this video on Reddit before you posted this analysis and pretty much came to the same conclusions. I'm not surprised, Vine has often PUT himself into danger by ignoring the actions of others and continuing to ride into the issue rather than avoid it. Neither part comes out innocent in this incident.

[@DreamcastFan-101]

Jeremy would do well to heed Ashley’s words which stay with me every time I’m in the car … “Be a problem solver, not a problem maker.”

[@1milliondogs]

I love how cyclists like Vine would rather be laying in a hospital bed smugly content that they were in the right, rather than just take a bit more care and accept that some drivers make mistakes.

[@shm5547]

We should not accept drivers making mistakes that put peoples lives at risk. This driver should get at least 6 points for careless driving and a hefty fine. That's why we have a points system. Should they continues to make mistakes, their licence should be revoked. Imagine if this was a child. They might not have been able to bang so loudly on the van door and been crushed.

[@1milliondogs]

@@shm5547 Your comment highlights my point perfectly. Thank you kindly.

[@TheRip72]

@@shm5547 Moving into a position where you may get crushed is not the best way to teach somebody a lesson.

[@mickman0073]

@@TheRip72 JV thinks it is..

[@joevictor53]

It's more important to be right that trying to avoid an incident

[@michaelmcmullin2093]

I don’t think you will be on Jeremy’s Christmas Card list once he’s watched your correct analysis of the incident! 😂

[@ashley_neal]

And you think I care 😂. Ironically, I wish he would act in a different way to keep himself safe. Any time someone is injured on the road is a bad time.

[@philipjames3526]

All I think about from your videos is. "Make it a non event" - people - everyone. Including Vine, make mistakes. People shouldn't go out of their way to make it worse.

[@stevenrix7024]

From past encounters with JV (even just this year) there was never any danger of that!

[@hp_64]

I just don’t have much to say about him, and I don’t want to come across as being against Jeremy, but I genuinely think he needs to have a good listen and think about what Ashley has mentioned here. Also, I had a good chuckle at the Xmas card joke 😂

[@goodyeoman4534]

Zealots don't like having their behaviour questioned.

[@countbasiethebicyclemessen4321]

That almost made my week😢.... Almost. Terrible thing to say, but I'd pay money to see a video of Jeremy Vine earning his well-merited Darwin Award. Having been a bicycle messenger in London for 26 years, during which time 8 riders I knew fairly well were killed riding bicycles or motorcycles, I struggle to believe a lot of what cyclists do in London these days. Even by current standards, Jeremy Vine's recklessness and apparent belief in his invulnerability are staggering. Everything Ashley says here is correct. I would add that, in my view, Jeremy Vine had plenty of time to either pull to a stop well short of the van here or do what I'd have done if I had six jobs on: just swing to the right hand kerb and let the idiot in the van get on with it. I'd be confident I could've stopped on a "brakeless" fixie in Jeremy Vine's situation here. The van driver? Well, he's made so many errors here that he shouldn't have a licence. There are a lot of massive but relatively poorly signposted contraflow cycle lanes in London these days. This one, as seen on the Google Maps view of the van driver's approach, is well marked and there is enough information to ensure that drivers don't make this mistake. (The Blackfriars' Road monstrosity has drivers coming up it the wrong way regularly, as the signage , road markings and street layout are inadequate.) No professional bicycle messenger would ever have gotten into this situation... even with eight jobs on, in the dark, at 4:30pm, on the last Friday before Christmas. Jeremy Vine is a perfect summary of what's wrong with his social clique: self-righteous to an extent that would be impossible in a traditional society and permanently out of his skull on a lethal cocktail of "rights without responsibility" & "immunity from risk" - neither of which actually exist, in spite of government legislation claiming that we can all have both. Every bicycle messenger will tell you that there's at least one truck out there with your number on it. I sincerely hope Jeremy Vine meets his soon. Idiot and a disgrace to the "cycling community" - not that there is such a thing.

[@_Mentat]

Also note the arrow on the road was misleading. It pointed to an immediate right turn.

[@BrightonandHoveActually]

Many years ago I went on an advanced motorcycling course with Sussex Police. I remember being told waving Highway Code at the other person when you are lying dead in the road will not help you. Obviously you are not going to do anything once you are lying dead in the road but the point was not lost on me. In this case, too, I think there is a clue at 25 seconds into your video that he missed. We only see it for a fraction of a second because by 26 seconds his helmet is in the way. but I think the van's reversing light is on. Sooner or later Jeremy Vine's obsession with being clickbait is going to cost him his life.

[@waynestockton8953]

I really do hope so I'm sick of him been such a nuisance on the roads

[@wannabuyabridge]

For me, it was put as 'You explain to the ambulance crew how you had the right of way, as they load you on'.

[@guessundheit6494]

Which is why I walk with a metal cane. Their vehicles will get damaged before they can get close to me.

[@androidapps12345]

JV is someone who enjoys finding faults in others. That must be a good feeling for him

[@Beatlefan67]

I believe it's a psychological thing. Whilst doing that they briefly feel better about themselves.

[@robrob253]

Yes, a wanker

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

Jeremy seems to attract an enormous amount of attention on the roads doesn't he? He's in every single one of his videos

[@The_BenboBaggins]

Brilliant analysis, 100% agree - the sadly ironic thing I see is if JV had stopped and helped then he would still have content to share, because that is a great example of poor road design that makes conflict almost inevitable. We have a massive problem with poor driving in this country, but a fair proportion of that is caused by poor road design imo.

[@ihateunicorns867]

The van driver isn't trying to do something wrong here. He took a wrong turn and is panicking and trying to correct it. What we need in these situations is for everyone to just stop and take a second to calm down and resolve the situation.

[@danw82uk]

Completely agree.

[@Kieran.Rob53]

The van driver could’ve killed a man that day in fairness, and I don’t even watch this Jeremy guy

[@nanamoo2008]

​@@Kieran.Rob53he could have and it would have 100% been Jeremy's fault if he'd been seriously hurt or killed. Thankfully he recorded it and showed everyone his stupidity.

[@Kieran.Rob53]

@@nanamoo2008 Jeremy’s fault??? Have you read the hierarchy of road users?

[@pauldavies6037]

agree

[@bryanhobson1822]

Oh Jeremy!!! Please will you stop putting yourself in danger to make a point when other road users inevitabilty make a mistake.

[@annandune]

Some people don't seem to realise that the Highway Code is there to avoid accidents and injury rather than to win an argument about who is right or wrong in a traffic incident, and Jeremy seems to be one of these people.

[@Ryback1992]

Cant wait to see his final video.

[@KarlVaughan]

I totally agree with you, Ashley. Jeremy would rather do stupid things like that to get a popular video than do the right thing and stop. What on earth was he thinking going right behind the van? He could've been crippled for life, and for what? I hope he's learned a valuable lesson although I doubt it. I wish the same for the van driver and hope he pays more attention to road signs and other road users.

[@michaelgoode9555]

​@SGuy889off topic gibberish from somebody obsessed with the wrong message. Where for one moment is your concern for safe driving and road safety? No. You just want to gripe about TV licencing.

[@lamf4846]

Passing it. That's what on earth he was doing.

[@Marvhead]

​@@lamf4846He didn't complete his pass, which is what put him in danger. Why didn't he ride past the rear of the van and talk with the driver. Brainless.

[@lamf4846]

He couldn't owing to the vans reversal. Why did the van driver ignore Vine's horn. Is the driver deaf and blind?@@Marvhead

[@fredneedle123]

You are giving JV too much credit. He want thinking at all. He was just flying into an angry rage as usual. We all make mistakes. Let just hope there isn't a silly fool like JV around making the situation as bad as possible if and when we do make a mistake.

[@Brauschemann]

For an intelligent person, this was certainly an unintelligent thing to do. Jeremy - If you can't see their mirrors, they can't see you ! Doh !!!

[@TheIanl42]

Intelligent? Have you heard him on the radio? 😂

[@DemiGod..]

It is worse than that as the van clearly had no option but to reverse

[@paul756uk2]

Intelligent? More like an over educated idiot.

[@daz1975ify]

Are you sure , hes a muppet

[@irishvicar1963]

@@TheIanl42he’s worse on his tv show on channel 5 , thank goodness they’ve reduced the length of time he’s on each day

[@843thebear]

Jeremy verbally acknowledges the presence of the van before he's even started cycling across the yellow box junction, that's where I would have ben coming to a stop on my bike, not continuing through the junction to stop behind the van. No point being 'in the right' when you're 6ft under!

[@jrewillis]

Spot on this one. Poor judgement by the van. But even poorer judgement by vine. Im a cyclist, van driver and motorcyclist. This whole thing could have been avoided.

[@looneytune6955]

Lets cut to the chase here, the vast majority of us had a good giggle at Mr Vines uncanny knack of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, the bloke is an absolute helmet. Secretly he loves it, i bet he'd be happy to get run over for all the internet likes he'd receive.

[@wulfsorenson8859]

He has a camera on that helmet for a reason. To cause trouble and ruin lives.

[@looneytune6955]

@@wulfsorenson8859 Vine is symptomatic of the social media society we live in today where it's all about internet traffic for monetary purposes. His whole style is to manufacture incidents with the sole purpose of winding people up, with the exception of the weird little cult of self righteous cyclists who hang off his every spoken word due to his celebrity status (i don't include all cyclists as cycling is generally a huge positive but Vine does cycling no favours).

[@yourmum955]

@@wulfsorenson8859no life to be ruined unless you’re an idiot

[@Rhyd]

There's nothing I can say about JV that hasn't been said already. I just hope that the cyclists who follow him like cult members start to realise that the riding he promotes can be very dangerous.

[@alanclarke4646]

You did say "cult" with an "l"? I misread at first as having an "n"😂😂

[@Rhyd]

@@alanclarke4646 they can be both 😂

[@KevinWMoor]

This could be the start of some natural selection

[@urbanguy999]

When JV started shouting out : No No No, he should have just pulled the brakes of the bike and stopped. Then, it would have been a very different outcome. Unfortunately, this is not good enough for JV as he wants to be a "victim"

[@andyw386]

Unfortunately with Jeremy being the way he is, this was always bound to happen. And even after the van stopped, he goes and hits it a few more times like a child. Hopefully this situation shook him up and made him think about the danger he gets himself into, though I highly doubt it.

[@kiradotee]

Nah, even this isn't gonna change him. He's a child.

[@LikeABawsGaming249]

He hit it again because it started reversing again over his bike

[@jwalker7567]

To be fair to Jeremy have a look at the reverse light, the van tries to reverse again. HOWEVER the van still can’t see him! he shouldn’t stay stood behind the van, he should’ve moved to the side ASAP and waved at the driver. For all he knows the driver will think he’s stuck on the curb and reverse even faster. Jeremy has no ability to know when he’s seen or not

[@OblivionYouTube]

He reminds me of every person who gets their first GoPro and presses record. Most people film their animals doing something silly whereas Jeremy tries to get himself killed.

[@andymorgan385]

Yeah and not doing a very good job at that!!!

[@ae5668]

needed a shotgun trap in the back of the van.

[@Jastongues]

Excellent analysis Ash 👍 When I first saw his post .... I found myself on Google street view as well. I have to say, I think the road markings could be made better - maybe a no entry sign as well at that point. But there were a lot of clues there - you are right.

[@georgelane6350]

My thought process when cycling is: If someone is in an advanced stop box, or cycle lane, or fails to give way, fails to keep their lane, they either: A) hate cyclists B) aren't paying attention C) are distracted D) are having a medical incident or E) a combination of the above In any case, I don't want to be anywhere near them.

[@Paul9]

I can imagine his glee at being involved and catching it on video to share. It must mean that much to him in order to intentionally risk is life.

[@andywilliams7323]

Yer I agree with your analysis 100%. I do worry about Vine, I naturally wish him no harm. But if keeps going the way he's going, willfully, foolishly and unnecessarily, deliberately riding himself into dangerous positions and situations, just to prove his point, reprimand and get his self-righteousness and social media views endorphin fix. Then one of these days it's not going to be a near miss, that he walks away from.

[@andywilliams7323]

Edit. Wrong homone. I meant dopamine fix, the "feeling reward and accomplishment" hormone, not endorphin fix, the "pleasure pain and stress-relieving" hormone. Although perhaps endorphin also fits, seeing as Vine seems to like the idea of putting himself in a position where pain could be caused to him resulting in an endorphin release.

[@Jabarri74]

It's the camera I think so they put them selves in danger for better in their head clout. Same as dashcammers

[@raymondbenjamins5884]

Yeah, exactly. One day they'll race into a situation where the driver doesn't stop in time or come across someone with a bad case of road rage. If he keeps driving like he does, it's not a case of if, but when.

[@cczimaging5864]

Vine saw what was happening but instead of continuing safely straight ahead in the cycle lane, he followed the van to the left putting himself in danger. The man is an absolute clown.

[@calummills9586]

Why wasnt the turn right arrow burnt off for the van driver? There are quite a few signs that there is something going on but if he was not a local and following a not up to date sat nav (most probably) then this may have caused him to turn right. Stopping behind the van was stupid, he either need to put a burst in to avoid it or stop and allow the van to get reverse before continuing on his own journey

[@ComputerRouter]

Thanks Ashley, ever since I saw the clip, I've been looking forward to your review You have praised Jeremy for his horn use and alerting the driver. It's important to alert the driver, but think how it would become much less of an event if Jeremy started slowing (and stopping) from the moment he started using the horn. This is an important lesson for every cyclist not to enter the blind spots of drivers

[@andycole6982]

Its not just cyclists that don't understand blind spots, in my experience most road users are.

[@derekheeps1244]

That is actually NOT correct use of the horn : the horn is there to alert other road users to your presence or your approach , or to avoid danger TO YOURSELF from other road users , it is absolutely NOT to be used as a rebuke to someone you believe has done something wrong . Vine had absolutely no need to warn the van driver of his presence ; what he needed to do when he saw the van turning across his path was to STOP and keep well out of its way . He had no need to become a distraction and a nuisance , then a mortal danger to himself . It is clear that Vine is one of those people utterly bereft of common sense . Perhaps getting to the street corner and guiding the van driver back would be a nice gesture , but it is also OK to just think ' none of my business , let him sort his own mess out ' and carry on without getting involved .

[@I_am_Ironman89]

"I'd like to thank Jeremy for exacerbating all these problems so I can teach people what not to do" Brilliant

[@Robbo511]

The first thing I asked after seeing the van make the mistake was. "Why did this incident even need to happen?" Had Jeremy simply stopped clear of what is now an obvious hazzard in the road and taken perhaps 10 seconds to assess this never needed to happen.

[@radiogreenduck]

Agree with all you say Ashley. I would add at 21" you can see the van turning. Yes the driver is in the wrong through making a mistake, but it comes down to the classic "is your exit clear?" and in JV's case from 21" to 24" he can clearly see his exit is closing to nothing. Yes, he sounds his horn but does nothing to loose speed - ideally to a halt. Many will say his "No No No" was also the start of his red-mist to get even with this driver and effectively, by stopping behind the van, in, as you say the worst place to do so, the beginings of his confrontation with him. "I've blocked this van. He's going anywhere so I can confront him" Unfortuantely Mr Vine, with your poor grasp of physics (and we give you the benefit of the doubt and say this was clouded by your road rage), of two unequal masses meeting, you fail to grasp the consequences for the smaller one.

[@ScottPC]

The guys a clown I swear. Driver makes a wrong turn, realises then proceedes to reverse correcting his mistake... What does Jeremy do for 'VIEWS'.... Go straight behind into his blind spot. The guys a genius.

[@iainamurray]

He reversed without checking it was clear. It wasn’t clear.

[@sparkycalledmarky]

@@iainamurray He reverses and Jeremy maintains position in a place where the driver has no chance of seeing him. The driver can't check both mirrors at the same time. Not that the driver was right to reverse so quickly (he wasn't), but if someone is reversing at you in a box van: don't do everything you can to stay behind it while trying to push it. It'll just keep coming at you. There's the driver being wrong, and there's Jeremy doing what he can to make it worse (when he's potentially going to hurt the most).

[@lukyangho]

Check where, Jeremy went from blind spot straight to behind the van, no chance the van driver can see he's there. Dumbest way to prove you're right by purposefully putting yourself in danger. Two wrongs does not make a right

[@shaun__3]

​@@iainamurrayWatch the video. Ashley talks about this here. But if you've watched any of Ashley's videos, you'd know that he constantly talks about not putting yourself in danger just because someone did something wrong.

[@DemiGod..]

He wanted to make sure the van couldn't get away so that he could abuse the driver

[@dukestt5436]

He is going to get himself seriously hurt or killed just to say "i told you so" , foolish!!

[@I_Evo]

Yep and he won't get to see "but I was in the right" carved on his gravestone.

[@johnw2758]

yeah and you can just imagine him in hospital, all legs broken and saying " yeah but I was right"..............

[@yourmum955]

@@johnw2758Great feeling. Being rigjt is better than anythinf

[@johnw2758]

@@yourmum955 haha yeah

[@thecdymavrick2.060]

I live just round the corner from here and drive down that road daily, this happens more often than you would think it would. Another big issue with the road which isn't picked up because of the wide angle of the camera, is when you are coming from the vans direction, the cars on the road to your right at so far forward, and the road so narrow that it looks like you can't turn right and go around them. Combine this with the very wide right turn area and I suppose it makes sense. Personally I think they should put a barrier between the cars and the cycle lane, as it wouldn't block the bikes, and it would make the road clearer.

[@dereksmith9876]

Another thought. Tan the beginning of the clip it is highlighted that the driver is making an illegal turn. Jeremy then had plenty of time to stop before the box. He could have been safe and part of the solution and not the problem. As you often say.

[@mickman0073]

I've seen van drivers make mistakes like this, I've also seen people stop and help the driver reverse safely.. Vine stopping behind that van was a really stupid thing to do esp as he knew the driver couldn't continue going forward and the drivers only choice was to reverse.. JV should have helped him do that safely. ..

[@andyp315]

Think the stopping is caused by the corner of the van catching the bike rather than any braking from vine, although low speed it stops dead instantly

[@Interstellar83516]

​@@andyp315you could be right, but even if he didn't have time to brake and stop before the truck (which I think he probably did) he definitely could have manoeuvred to the right to avoid it. Looks to me like he either chose to stop behind it, in its blind spot or he was trying to pass behind it in its blind spot. Only he will be able to tell you why. But to me it's a poor decision

[@neillmorris1469]

Vine didn't stop, the van driver just reversed into him. Did he think the cyclist he just cut up vanished into thin air?

[@danw82uk]

​@@neillmorris1469your technical right but slow it down and look when Jeremy started to turn in. Your right the van driver reversed into him, no arguments on that, poor driving. Your right Jeremy hadn't actually stopped when the van hit him. But regarding Jeremy's personal safety he positioned himself close to the van, he had room to the right and could have gone straight past. Slow it down and look when Jeremy started to turn in behind the van. I'm not excusing the van drivers mistakes but Jeremy needlessly put himself at more risk. Very poor judgement and easily avoidable.

[@danw82uk]

Recently a lorry in front of me turned then stopped suddenly partially blocking the road as he'd spotted a low bridge. I wasn't thrilled about it as it caused me delays. The mistake I made was to stop and give the driver time and space to reverse out of the situation, it was an arctic so not an easy or quick job. I now know I should have just ploughed straight though hoping he didn't reverse into me and the traffic coming in the other direction could just sit waiting until someone else decided to stop.

[@elric6084]

A more rational approach would have been to stop between the yellow box markings and the van, then walk along the nearside of the van at a safe distance (as the other cyclist did), then get the van drivers attention and explain that you will help him reverse by standing where he can see you in his side mirror, then you observe the traffic whilst guiding him back onto the road he exited from. I do hope that the van driver does not lose his job and drivers licence because of a genuine mistake which was compounded a thousand fold, when it needn't have been.

[@DemiGod..]

You can't expect jeremy to help, but if he didnt want to wait as the van obviousuly had to reverse, the least he could have done is make sure the van was stationary before quickly going past it instead of stopping right behind it.

[@philipjames3526]

'I hope the van driver does not lose this job' - he literally made a mistake. Not help one jot by Vine. People make mistakes all the time. A reasonable person would have made it a non issue. Vine on the other hand 'hold my beer'

[@davidlister7590]

I like how even after the bike is been run over Vine is like if i stand behind where he can not see me he will see me and stop and if i bang on the back knowing its not likely he can hear it he will hear it and stop at everystep he has gone out of his way to make it worse.

[@BrightonandHoveActually]

Yes but non-event means no-monetised.

[@rainbowevil]

@@philipjames3526 he made a life-threatening mistake - 2 of them in fact. Vine was a fool, but that driver is downright dangerous. To say “well we all make mistakes” is ridiculous in this instance - he made 2 life-risking mistakes in quick succession doing the very thing it’s his job to do; that really should be a job loss and certainly points & a fine.

[@billyskoda6839]

I've been a racing cyclist for almost 40 years. There are cyclists who show respect and engender good feelings from other road users and there's a group who make it worse for the rest of us. Vine is in the second category.

[@billyskoda6839]

Additionally, almost as long a car driver, motorcyclist and for 7 years a police area car driver.

[@HalloweenJack-xg8qi]

Could I ask what your views are on Cycling Mikey?

[@billyskoda6839]

@@HalloweenJack-xg8qi I believe he has a desire to do what he believes is right. His motives are admirable, even if sometimes his methods cause conflict. From what I've seen, Mikey is unlike Mr Vine in many ways and places himself in dangerous situations in a different manner. Ie on foot rather than riding into situations where the danger is higher and more difficult to mitigate. Two crusaders, but the devil is in the detail.

[@HalloweenJack-xg8qi]

Thanks. @@billyskoda6839

[@tobystephenson7625]

Very nicely summed up Ashley - although I feel the Vine could have derisked the situation by braking earlier and less use of the horn - van driver made a mistake and panicked and Vine did nothing to help and defuse the situation - quite the contrary - no excuse for the initial mistake, but top marks to van driver for accepting his error and at least focussing on ensuring people were alright - Vine on the other hand was solely focused on showing how he was a victim - what an arse

[@younggarethr]

I personally think Jeremy Vine needs to give up cycling. The man is a liability.

[@ashley_neal]

The problem is that people copy him also.

[@GunterBatton]

He is the embodiment of the 'I have it on dash cam', person. If someone is fucking up, just give them space to do it, don't get involved.

[@paulscottrobson]

... unless you can help.

[@yourmum955]

Nah. Teach the dipshits a lesson

[@Dairylea82]

Why did Jeremy continue? He could have easily stopped before the van. He's always looking for drama. Was the van driver at fault? Absolutely, but could jeremy have avoided it? 100%.

[@andrewwatson5360]

Although I have been driving for almost 60 years and have encountered and managed to navigate many changes in road systems and signage I'm sure I would find that intersection confusing as the most prominent indicator relating to traffic direction displayed is the right turn arrow painted on the road. Why is it there if that lane cannot turn right ? A driver inexperienced with that area and concerned about all the traffic and plethora of visual stimulation could easily be misled in that situation.

[@Andy-zl1rp]

Jeremy is very accident prone just like Frank Spencer 😂

[@danielmartinbowen3844]

That's an insult to Frank Spencer!!!

[@steviebarrett]

Ironically Jeremy could do with watching CyclingMikey's video from today. He held back behind a long flat-bed lorry rather than go down the inside of it because he knew it was unsafe to do so.

[@exsandgrounder]

Why is that ironic? Mikey's always been a wise cyclist.

[@wonkyboy]

Funny how Ashley has chosen not to like this comment. I like to compare Ashley, mikey, Jeremy and BBB to see their opinions. None of them are right all the time though I usually side with BBB

[@johnathankain8033]

Ok the things you point out on the road makes it somewhat clear you should not turn right, except the HUGE turn right lane arrow. Shocking road signage is the major causing factor here IMO.

[@nigelleyland166]

Fortunately, when Jeremy eventually gets himself killed there will be plenty of video evidence to prove it was not the fault of an innocent driver!

[@smilerbob]

Not taking away from the error of the van driver and to go the wrong way is plain dangerous, I do not know why he went behind the van as close as he did. If he had given a wider berth and not slowed down when behind he could’ve been through without any issue. Hopefully one day he realises there are other ways to get a safety message across to others without the need for theatrics and endangerment of his life He is very fortunate the outcome was the way it was. There was a collision between a young cyclist and a lorry earlier this week on a road near to me and the outcome was very different, it was the worst possible outcome 😢

[@DemiGod..]

He went behind and stopped to stop the van driver reversing and escaping so that he could abuse him.

[@ianmason.]

You must be one of the few people here who doesn't know why Jeremy went around behind the van. It was the shortest, quickest path to the driver's window where Jeremy would have stuck his camera in the driver's face and started scolding him. I base that presumed action on every other video I've seen Jeremy record of his interactions with other drivers. Hoist by his own petard.

[@exsandgrounder]

There was a small gap between the van and the "traffic island" (on which a no entry sign was planted). If he was to take a wider berth, it would have had to have been into the oncoming traffic lane on the one way road.

[@ianmason.]

@@exsandgrounderThe _empty_ two lanes to the right side of that junction, empty all the way to Bing Place. So available for evasive action. Or he could have, you know, stopped like any sane person.

[@MWALKLETT1]

I like the way you say "spots the drivers mistake" It helps to remind oneself that it's not always intentional. Is so just find the safest route around and carry on

[@cantbearsedmechanics]

You see it exactly as I do . All the driver needed was a bit of help after a mess up . Helping as a banksman would of turned this into a non event and made it safe for everyone but jv would of missed the opportunity for another vid for his huge competition of how not to cycle

[@Igbon5]

'Have I been seen' is the number one question, the number one skill, to ensure your safe progression through a life in traffic if you are a vulnerable user. Right and wrong are irrelevant at this point.

[@AUaudits]

Well put, & a very good analysis. As a hgv driver with agency, I work for a number of companies, some big well known ones. Tight deadlines, unfamiliar cities, can catch out experienced drivers. Manchester is a nightmare & my eyes & concentration are working overtime. To ensure I watching out for road warning signs, as well as sat nsv to guide me. Driver may have been caught out by trusting sat nav 100%, which can lead to embarrassing situations like this. Unfortunately for driver, he screwed up in front of BBC's Jeremy Vine, who did an excellent job of creating an outstanding drama for the cameras. He should go into film acting. Jeremy would make a great action drama 😂

[@cyclecam6328]

I suspect Jeremy thought the driver would continue to drive the wrong way and was thinking about capturing it rather than his own safety. The lorry driver was much to ready to reverse, which was his second mistake.

[@truckerlee5975]

Funny looking lorry to me.

[@DemiGod..]

jeremy went right behind the van to stop it getting away after it stopped. He knew it had to reverse

[@paulscottrobson]

He's right though. When you do something dumb like that - I certainly have - your instinct is to try to 'unpick it' unless there's a very obvious out (which there isn't here). You can't as a road user assume everyone else will drive well. I assume everyone drives badly, signals wrongly, and has no idea where they are going. Also, simply, when he saw the Van driver make that mistake why did he simply slow down and/or stop.

[@ianmason.]

Which is precisely why, in general, if another road user makes a mistake you shouldn't put them under pressure. Give them time to fix their error. I've seen a lot of people screw things up a second time if people start blasting horns or shout at them or otherwise pressure them. The classic, if trivial, example is the learner stalling at lights. If the queue behind them honks and beeps they invariably stall again because they rush. If you just wait quietly they and you will be on your way faster than if you put them under pressure.

[@Natastrophe007]

Fantastic and objective overview of the situation, well done Ashley Neal!!

[@devilscritic]

Spot on Ashley, as always! I cannot comprehend why he decided it was a good idea to put himself behind the vehicle.

[@norman6595]

I have cycle commuted in cities for decades and although there are some unavoidable stressful moments I generally enjoy my rides. I therefore can’t understand why people such as Jeremy go on a crusade to add stress to themselves.

[@DashCamSheffield]

The van driver is more to blame obviously, but I agree, Jeremey didn't look at the situation. The van driver made a massive mistake, so why would you trust the van driver to not reverse? Right of way/priority means nothing if you're gonna get injured/killed trying to prove it

[@DemiGod..]

Jeremy rather than helpiong, tried to stop him reversing by stopping right behind him.

[@jakerockznoodles]

And really, what other way was the van driver going to go? I mean, at this point he couldn't really go forward so his options were to either stay where he was (where he'd worry about creating an obstruction) or reversing. Yes, the van driver put himself in that situation, but now in that situation I can't really see a safe way out of it. The best option for everyone around is to therefore show a lot more caution. Not Jeremy though, who decided to sneak in behind him? Utterly bizarre decision IMO.

[@DashCamSheffield]

@@DemiGod.. To be honest, there does seem to be a hint of turning to the left just after passing behind the van, but I'm not sure if this is an effect of the 360 camera

[@Denali1600]

@@jakerockznoodles Almost. The van drivers correct and safe option was to observe it's safe to reverse and THEN reverse, per Ashley at 3:26 If he had no reverse camera he needed to get out and request a passerby to assist him. But Vine really should have figured out he was dealing with a very bad driver and anticipated he'd reverse without looking.

[@TheTwistedLemonsLP]

He turned left into the vans path on approach and left again once he was directly behind it. Look at the position of his handle bars relative to the path at 6:10. If he had just to the right of the van and not slowed right down behind it he would have also been fine. @@DashCamSheffield

[@jugglerjim01]

Without wishing harm on anyone, this was always going to happen sooner or later. He puts himself in dangerous situations rather than make them a non-issue so often.

[@DavidBrown-sr8di]

I have cycled all my life and never had any the problems Jeremy Vine has had, perhaps it is because I am considerate to other road users, and know when to slow down and give way. I suppose the bad design of the road had nothing to do with it

[@busog97641]

Please, if anyone reads this, and lives in Britain, do whatever it takes to put forward a request for Ashley to receive an OBE. IF anyone deserves one this man does. If a banker can get one shouldn't someone that does as much for road safety as Ashley does?

[@josephmarsh8235]

Excellent video Ashley! Thanks for doing this video, I was hoping you would do a video of this! I think it's time Jeremy gets some learning from someone who's a more safe cyclist, and that person.... is you! I saw a lot on twitter saying Jeremy shouldn't have gotten near the van, and he jumped a red light, but that never happened. I just hope his video won't cause dangers to others who might copy.

[@mihohobaba]

The problem with that is Jeremy Vine has blocked Ashley, as he always does when anybody dares to criticise his sometimes bizarre choices or offer any advice on how to be a safer road user.

[@josephmarsh8235]

@@mihohobaba indeed. However, like Ashley said once in one of his videos, do you really think that's gonna stop me?

[@bp19870]

His camera angles do my head in more than he does! 😂

[@TheUkdan02]

Driving in London is extremely stressful at the best of times without having Jeremy creeping up behind you. As a seasoned driver myself making occasional trips down to London, despite only having the 'usual' near misses with other motorists (lane discipline doesn't seem to apply in London), I always get home expecting to find a ticket in the post a few days later; bus lanes, one-ways, congestion charge zones, yellow boxes, confusing junctions, the list goes on and all are camera controlled. Add the stress of having to make deliveries on time as is the case of the van driver and it's no wonder mistakes do sometimes happen. Jeremy, being familiar with these roads should understand this and do his best to help, not hinder as he does.

[@markkenyon8760]

100% agree. JV making a mistake into a potential life changer. I doubt even a Police Chief would advocate getting behind a reversing van that has gone the wrong way...

[@AndyCreepy27]

Nail on the head as always Ashley, so many things Jeremy could have and instead puts himself out of view of the van driver. I'm not saying the van driver was in the right either, but that should have been an easy non event.

[@gordon861]

Very fair review, I did wonder about the full lock on the bike after ha past the van, I think he planned to whack the back on the way past and/or go on to challenge the driver. Even once the van had started to reverse again, he still chose to stand behind, out of site rather than moving to where he could be seen.

[@Rapid_GT]

I'm glad you highlighted this about Jeremy, I also pointed our he could have stopped and he put himself in danger for the sake of being dramatic for a video

[@michaelgoode9555]

There are a lot of posters here who im my opinion need to wind their necks in. Vine was imo stupid to stop behind the van BUT the van driver was wrong fornthe original manoeuvre AND to then start revearsing without being able to see what is behind him. People might hate Vine and love to be critical of him BUT the primary, major and significant mistakes are those of the van driver.

[@beerancher3225]

NEVER , NEVER , NEVER ARGUE WITH A TRUCK . YOU'LL LOSE , AND IT WILL HURT !

[@15bit62]

I wonder if that driver is quite new to driving on the left side of the road. I have been resident in europe for nearly 20 years now, but I do drive in the UK from time to time, and at busy and complicated junctions like this it is surprisingly easy to make a mistake like the van driver does if you are used to driving on the right. I would say that the contraflow bike lane adds to the confusion too.

[@yourmum955]

Shouldn’t be driving then

[@15bit62]

@@yourmum955 Everyone makes mistakes, and with the road authorities seemingly inventing new road designs on the fly everywhere, it is very easy to get confused in places you haven't driven before. I would argue that is at least partly the fault of the road designers for not sticking to a convention. So i don't personally judge the van driver too harshly for making that turn, especially as he realised the mistake immediately. His major mistake was immediately reversing without properly assessing his position and that of others.

[@Eric_Hunt194]

The second round of bashing the van after the danger was stopped says it all about Jeremy's attitude. That was anger, not warning.

[@paulannable3734]

To be fair to Jeremy, he was trying to get the van off his crushed (due to his own stupidity) Brompton

[@shm5547]

it started moving again and the reversing lights were still on

[@robertjones8856]

Hi great video. I'm not a city driver, but that arrow to turn right for the van on the road I think confuses the issue.

[@derekheeps1244]

It absolutely does , and from his accent the van driver appears to be foreign , so i can understand him going into the right side of that street .

[@maximusflightymus3892]

The van driver almost became a legend.