Maybe I'm totally missing something, but for game one, couldn't you have stacked a ton of golem counters, gotten back the scorpion, and then make golems, force the pestilence, then make more golems in response and repeat until they are out of mana and you can sac enough golems to mill them?
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
yep that actually would have worked! nice line, I actually never thought of that, but it makes the deck a lot scarier!
@jewpcabra6664 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@trysephiroth0074 жыл бұрын
As far as I know you can't die from getting milled out right? Then the opponent just untaps and kills him with Pestilence before losing to drawing a card.
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
@@trysephiroth007 that's only if I'm low enough on life to die on upkeep. I could have gotten back scorpion before that, I believe
@trysephiroth0074 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon ah, I only saw that as the play the last turn where they could kill you on upkeep. You didn't have a scorpion before then that I'm aware of but maybe you could have dug for one.
@donjohnson13354 жыл бұрын
The moment I saw the downshift I knew you'd break it.
@jamierobertson65724 жыл бұрын
*plays only storm in pauper ever* *explains that you should always play in paper because it’s easier*
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
I actually have quite a few non-storm pauper decks. the storm ones are just the most popular
@jamierobertson65724 жыл бұрын
Caleb Gannon MTG yes fair enough, I guess you’re just mainly known for your pauper and cube storm decks
@MineRoyale.4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon any plans on working more on that sweet mono green white lifegain merfolk deck?
@Eatmykebab4 жыл бұрын
Ahh the good old transformative sideboard
@jonathanchung31843 жыл бұрын
@caleb I don't know if you have been keeping up with the Modern Horizons 2 spoilers, but I've been looking to build this shell. A bunch of the spoiled cards have me hyped. Sojourner's Companion, Chrome Courier and the Bridge Lands (Dual Artifact Indestructible lands) Would love to see you revisit this deck
@TheHuntersKnife4 жыл бұрын
Curious if you will be doing double Masters draft in the near future. Would love to see you play it.
@benlittle55434 жыл бұрын
wooooo pauper!!!!!! I missed that downshift. I was exited about cast down, but this...... yum
@monsoon12345678904 жыл бұрын
I know it goes against what you're trying to do with the deck, but it feels like the trans-formative sideboard is stronger than the combo. It's very difficult to deal with a bunch of Serpents, Myr Enforcer and Thoughtcasts. The current combo shell you have does have inevitability (with the ability to return cards from the graveyard), but it doesn't have the mana to pull it all off in a timely manner. It feels like any form of interaction by the opponent sets you back multiple turns. This was most telling when the opponent kills the Sculptor or you don't find an Alter. It's not as cool as the combo, but if you played it more like affinity, you'd have a much more consistent deck with a larger sideboard to work with.
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
that's what I was thinking when going through the matches. The deck is actually very consistent/resilient but most of the cards just cost too much mana without sculptor. So you can have the combo in hand for like 4 turns and not be able to pull it off. I wonder if the reverse deck would actually be better... starting with the main shell and then siding into a less-focused combo vs certain matchups. Or just including a toned down version of the combo with more interaction
@monsoon12345678904 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon I don't often see decks transform from aggro to combo. You would have to remove the need for creatures post sideboard, to give you the same edge that transforming from combo to aggro gives. It would probably better to have 10-12 silver bullets than 10-12 cards dedicated to the combo. However I could see using some form of that combo shell in grindier match-ups to generate tons of value with the Myr Retriever loop. The best part about your combo is that it can altar + myr retriever loop fairly easily without interruption. You just need a win condition that is less fragile/mana costly than disciple/dross golem. I'm not sure what that card is.
@mn63344 жыл бұрын
@@monsoon1234567890 This isn't Penny Dreadful, it's Pauper. Grapeshot is banned.
@monsoon12345678904 жыл бұрын
@@mn6334 Thanks, I edited out my last sentence.
@MrShinyObject4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the white-black boros monarch desert control deck. Good ol' pauper. Always something new.
@loathesome_pilk_drinker4 жыл бұрын
Awesome deck!!! I really look forward to these videos. There is a lot of potential with this list. Love you Caleb, keep it up.
@BarbeqdBrwniez4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I absolutely love your content, I love that you play these wilder formats where you can make crazy stuff work, and I love your humor mixed with great game sense. Do you ever play any Commander content? I would love to see you brew some crazy Pauper EDH decks specifically!
@thatonedudejake4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I've been waiting for this video!
@plantigrado4 жыл бұрын
Hey typical lurker here! I really love your videos and I started to play pauper thanks to you. Regarding the deck I feel like the strongest shell of the deck is the altar + retriever + Golem Foundry it just wins you most of the time, and the other ones could be more like the sideboard plan.
@byronnelson95514 жыл бұрын
Love it! My and a friend managed to make infinite dualcasters with heat shimmer in this format so I'm happy to see you doing cool stuff!
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
heat shimmer is a rare?
@anaphysik4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon They mean in Double Masters limited. Heat Shimmer + Dualcaster Mage.
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
ahhh gotcha, that makes a lot more sense. also a cool combo!
@brendanmorales45044 жыл бұрын
These are the decks I want to play in casual with my homies. You rock Caleb!!!
@pedrohenriquegs954 жыл бұрын
When I saw It in reddit I was sure you will come up with something cool! You've never disappointed me :)
@GamerdevilPro4 жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party maybe but regarding the removal thing at 54:30 the only cards that come to mind are Sylvok Replica as a recurrable disenchant or executioner's capsule but that would require you to move into black. But maybe that's doable if you run some Vault of Whispers instead of the Saprazzan Skerry. Or maybe just some Nature's Chant as a way to deal with Journey because that card was super back breaking. Anyways deck looked really cool, I love Myr Retriever loops :D
@Thor223964 жыл бұрын
I dont have sound on so you might have noticed, but if you did not chromatic stars draw trigger is on death(unlike chromatic sphere), so sacrificing it to alter let's you add 2 colorless and still draw the card instead of filtering if you dont need the mana. I repeat do not try this with chromatic sphere you will be sad
@mylosgaffney89874 жыл бұрын
Hey, Caleb. I'm a big fan of your Penny Dreadful videos, as well as the card Proteus Staff. I would love it if you were to try it out in a deck.
@BettaFishTaco3 жыл бұрын
Wondering if this deck is gonna get an updated video now that Foundry Inspector got downshifted. Not sure if changes a whole lot but it seems like it'd be significant.
@TheEthanAndKyleShow3 жыл бұрын
was just wondering the same thing!
@colinsickels80134 жыл бұрын
And now I can play KCI in pauper, going to play the crap out of this deck, the ability to draw your whole deck with the untapped triggers is brilliant, going to see if I can work thoughtcast into the main, no only if we can get a commune with nature for artifacts made legal
@BarbeqdBrwniez4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm kind of surprised thoughtcast isn't mained, it's just so strong and consistent.
@ognotapussyslayer59174 жыл бұрын
Krark would be a really good improvement to the deck if it wasn't uncommon
@ognotapussyslayer59174 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Roberts :D
@LightningHelix1014 жыл бұрын
Aether spellbomb is probably the best removal spell without paying the red or black splash tax. This is such a sick deck. I was playing myrs in a preordains shell with zero residency. This seems so much better especially with the transform being a complete beat down.
@davidroder10644 жыл бұрын
In terms of removel... Maybe cut the skerry, add vault of Whispers and add cast down. Cut maybe one dross scorpion( 4 Mana, no need to have more than one), but i'm not shure what else to cut (Sphere? Enforcer?)
@weirdproq4 жыл бұрын
You could put Serrated Arrows in for some removal, and you can untap it with your scorpion.
@illuminerdy4 жыл бұрын
got any updates on the saprazzan or side board? I like this deck a lot and I'm about to order it in paper, wanna know what are some better options, if any. Thanks for making these decks your channel makes it really fun to play pauper.
@diegojimeneztamame16464 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb my dude, haven't you considered changing Ancient Dens for Vaults of Whispers and running 4 Disciple of the Vault? It is basically an instant combo kill with the recursive Myr Retriever. I mean, I used to win Standard and even Extended tournaments with a deck like that, built around KCI (RIP). Or even just with real affinity (like the one popular in paper: Frogmites, Myr Enforcers, Somber Hoverguards, etc.), back in the day, before they banned it in Standard.
@shadowphoenixxx4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'd love to see how that transformative sideboard would look as a main deck. Have you tried keeping altar and retrievers in there for the engine? Except for altar, I think the cards are still pretty good for the golem triggers and recursion of threats so I would be interested in how is "Affinity Twin deck" would look like.
@auroralee4 жыл бұрын
Looks absolutely spicy! Cant believe Ashnod's Altar was ever printed as a common. I'm not sure if I'm missing something but how does that Ghoulcallers Bell work as a win condition? It only untaps with Dross Scorpion, that's what you're looking for, right?
@ChinmanPlayCOD4 жыл бұрын
Ah the old Kansas City Shuffle sideboard plan. A classic
@yuyu634 жыл бұрын
i think when you sideboard out you should be keeping 1 aultr as a sack engion so when you do get the foundery out you can sack in responce to removal and also loop the retrivers and gargoyles in a not infinite manor to stack counters till out of mana
@evertonocastro4 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I'm saying somethig wrong (i'm kind of new in magic), but isn't it worth replacing the serpent to the Bastion Inventor? (this way Journey to Nowhere would be less of a problem, maybe)
@vitorsantiago10754 жыл бұрын
This may be a longshot, but maybe Executioner's capsule for removal? 2 black is kinda hard but it seems worth testing and I cant think of any better artifact removal in pauper. I guess aether spellbomb could work as tempo and wouldnt be hard on the mana
@iancampbell43944 жыл бұрын
Have you considered Glassdust Hulk? One mana cycling on an artifact creature seems good in this deck, not to mention the fact it goes infinite.
@SlothMentality4 жыл бұрын
Continues to hit you up with them algorithm boosting comments. Quality deck my dude.
@T0mmy98984 жыл бұрын
I agree that the main deck needs some permanent removal to deal with things like journey and pestilence, luckily there are 3 artifact options you can use. Dispeller's Capsule, Elf Replica and, Sylvok replica. The last one seems to be the best bet as it can hit artifacts and can also attack or block well. Maybe just one for the main that you can dig into would be enough.
@bryndayy4 жыл бұрын
Yeah can run Moonglove Extract or Aeolipile if you need creature removal but it seems like maybe artifact/enchantment removal is what you really need.
@ruaridhusher43734 жыл бұрын
you built bubbling muck? is this a vid i missed, a vid in creation, or can even you not best that beast?
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
it's a deck that I have waiting. It needs something more to be combo worthy though so I'm just waiting for new spoilers
@E10so4 жыл бұрын
hey caleb, maybe some eggs, like Aether Spellbomb or pyrite Spellbomb for removal where u can bounce a creature or deal 2 damage to any target...
@BUGHAKARASTA4 жыл бұрын
this a very better version of old OG scorpion list, I very like it but what about a more u/r kuldotha explosive faithless loothing deck? i've tested so hard about this myr retriever this is my current list, is actually competitive lmao // 60 Maindeck // 26 Artifact 2 Ichor Wellspring 3 Ashnod's Altar 4 Seat of the Synod 4 Great Furnace 4 Chromatic Star 3 Chromatic Sphere 2 Darksteel Citadel 4 Vault of Whispers // 14 Creature 4 Etherium Sculptor 4 Myr Retriever 4 Workshop Assistant 2 Artificer's Assistant // 3 Enchantment 3 Impact Tremors // 2 Instant 2 Costly Plunder // 3 Land 3 Thriving Isle // 12 Sorcery 4 Kuldotha Rebirth 4 Thoughtcast 4 Faithless Looting // 15 Sideboard // 2 Artifact SB: 2 Nihil Spellbomb // 4 Creature SB: 2 Krark-Clan Shaman SB: 2 Disciple of the Vault // 9 Instant SB: 1 Inside Out SB: 1 Echoing Truth SB: 3 Apostle's Blessing SB: 2 Pyroblast SB: 2 Electrickery i'll try share it on your discord as well
@adamwillard43344 жыл бұрын
Crashing Drawbridge for haste golems?
@גיללוי-ר2ב4 жыл бұрын
I waited for this
@EduardoBassoli4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Waiting for more!
@raficfarah62744 жыл бұрын
Maybe some vault skirges in the side board would be interesting
@yyglsiirrequiredtohavealas72544 жыл бұрын
Since pauper gets this sweet engine, any thoughts about using the bare bones combo (retriever + alter) as a storm engine?
@roqu17054 жыл бұрын
Any double masters draft incoming Caleb?
@bigbro2many4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on aether spellbomb? It works as soft removal and can cantrip when you don't need it. I guess it depends on how important hard vs soft removal is for the deck
@WhiteCrowPL4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any plans to update this list? Like you said at the end of video :)
@Christoff0704 жыл бұрын
Wait I still don't get how you winwith ghoulcallers bell if your opponent has drawn less cards than you. Won't you get decked before they do?
@skaarliton4 жыл бұрын
How many bells should i run if its in paper and what should i cut for em?
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
After this video I was way more impressed with golem foundry and bonder's ornament than I was expecting. So I might just run 1 bell, since the ornament can draw your whole deck anyway so finding the copy isn't too hard.
@skaarliton4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon thanks! I love seeing your pauper combo decks. I bought the tour de fish deck in paper as soon as I could after seeing the video!
@lucaswagner56864 жыл бұрын
Do you have a list of this version more aggro, with myr enforcer in main deck and things like this?
@nunull64274 жыл бұрын
I prefer corpse curs for this setup; more expensive, but you only need ten DMG along with life control.skeleton shard is rather nasty as well; If anyone has any other compliments, I'm interested. Super casual players here, mostly looking to make some laughs at the table.
@elijahbigsby41544 жыл бұрын
Are there any other downshifts from Double Maters that you're inspired to make other pauper decks with?
@Jadefirewsn4 жыл бұрын
Springjaw Trap could be a removal option.
@redspace5974 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the tablet of Epityr so that you gain infinite life which is another way to beat the opponent?
@RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff4 жыл бұрын
til Ashnod's Altar was printed at common. That's nutty.
@RMGamer31O4 жыл бұрын
Maybe replace the Skerry with a Thriving Isle for color fixing in a 3 color deck?
@RMGamer31O4 жыл бұрын
Also, for removal, you could use a red or blue spellbomb, just off the top of my head.
@brunomenezes14104 жыл бұрын
Keep posting pauper pls ur vids are the best
@BrownJTown4 жыл бұрын
What about a dimir shell with recursion like the new Archaeomender and Unearth? Going grixis even to cap on some removal spells like galvanic.
@fillipeportilho54494 жыл бұрын
Sage of lat-nam, Caleb
@Lord0fHam4 жыл бұрын
how come this deck doesn't use disciple of the vault?
@BibleKeyes4 жыл бұрын
am i missing something? Doesn't the bell make BOTH players mill? So if you're drawing through your deck to find it, aren't you going to mill yourself before you mill your opponent ?
@leress4 жыл бұрын
Mill both decks, pass to opponent, they draw, they lose unless they make you draw first.
@BibleKeyes4 жыл бұрын
leress right.. but if you start the process when you have 37 cards in library and they have 40... you can’t mill them to one and pass the turn before you mill yourself. And if you’re hitting draws off of stars and spheres and stirrings, seems like a good chance you are gonna be less cards than them in library.
@leress4 жыл бұрын
@@BibleKeyes You only lose if you draw with no cards in your library not when you have zero cards in library. If you have less cards in library using ghoul caller does nothing to you once you have zero cards in library but the opponent still mills cards.
@BibleKeyes4 жыл бұрын
leress oooohhh that makes sense. Duh. Makes way more sense now lol.
@time_traveling_wizard4 жыл бұрын
im here from the future to see if foundry inspector will fit in without using blue because im apparently the only person in my play group that thinks that foundry inspector is more exciting of a downshift than fiery cannonade
@ezurikat20814 жыл бұрын
Is it crazy to use impact tremors as a wincon once you have set up the loop? It takes many cards less to get to it
@TehSeksyManz4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Reckless Fireweaver, but Tremors dodges way more removal, although Weaver triggers off of more cards.
@ezurikat20814 жыл бұрын
@@TehSeksyManz maybe like 4 reckless weaver and a tremors just in case?
@jonh.6684 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but it seems we fall SUPER hard vs gorilla shaman? Seems we have no answers or maybe we can still get there
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
that's true for basically any affinity deck though, we could run more of the indestructible lands in the main potentially
@chrisnicholas51984 жыл бұрын
What format is this? I haven’t played for awhile
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
pauper
@illuminerdy4 жыл бұрын
new soul sisters with the leaked vampire?
@shadowphoenixxx4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't really get how the bell is a combo kill. Don't you just die before your opponent especially with all the deck filtering you do?
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
you both mill out, but your opponent gets the next draw step
@joaopedroalmeidacaetano16194 жыл бұрын
As always, you post pauper, i watch
@joaopedroalmeidacaetano16194 жыл бұрын
I was even wondering when would you break this combo, by the way
@chrisnicholas51984 жыл бұрын
I had a old deck that was just a ton of artifact kill a card 2 drop artifact that tapped to turn anything into a artifact so I played-it as land hate. So turn 2 and every turn after that it burned every land
@BBrecht4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the sideboard configuration should probably be the mainboard, and you swap in the combo win against decks which are well-positioned against the beatdown.
@YanuHFS4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a Calebs deck then ;)
@NavarreOnline4 жыл бұрын
You want to get 'em with the combo game one, then switch into a beat down plan game 2. The problem with combo is your opponent knows what you are about games 2 and 3, so they can hate it out. Your opponent brings in graveyard hate to screw your combo, passes the turn, you just go serpent -> myr enforcer, deal with 9 power, after you took a mulligan to beat a graveyard combo.
@alexanderpavlov25584 жыл бұрын
So this is the use for bonder’s ornament
@redspace5974 жыл бұрын
Imma try the urza lands with this deck
@MaxMckayful4 жыл бұрын
I love how this is an artifact deck that's partly green. The flavor nonbo is beautiful.
@shizo664 жыл бұрын
why would you not think he had pledge when he swung a bunch of 1/1s into your enforcer army? Oo
@douglasgiebel46984 жыл бұрын
I recommend splashing red in order for goblin bombardment so when you make infinite golems you could just shoot them down
@captainkarnage98744 жыл бұрын
I was about to build this on MTGO, but danm, I didn't realize the altar was $14
@mn63344 жыл бұрын
I was going to point out how expensive Bonder's Ornament is but when I went to look it up tonight it's apparently down to only three tickets a piece, last time I had looked at it's price it was listed for over 30 tickets a piece.
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
they've been releasing it in player rewards packs and treasure chests to lower the price. Still feels bad to drop $12 on 3 cards after playing penny dreadful for a few weeks though lol
@mn63344 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon Yeah, I wasn't saying 3 tix each was a good price, just not nearly as bad as 30+.
@devangoad4 жыл бұрын
My mono white desert build was hit harder than tron by the map banning...
@mityaoreh4 жыл бұрын
i want an updaaaaate!! bro it’s siiiiiick
@rickylund35374 жыл бұрын
Dude you sound alot like Wyatt Cenac lol
@alexmusselman70904 жыл бұрын
this deck looks really awesome, but unfortunately miserable in mtgo
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't even mention is that when going of the myrs can show up on random sides of your boardstate, so if you are just clicking the rightmost creature for example, randomly the myr could go to the left side and you sac your scorpion. It happened to me like 4 times before I figured out why I was accidentally saccing the wrong creature.
@alexmusselman70904 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon so the myr's place on the board isn't consistent after replaying it? So you get in the muscle memory of clicking the rightmost creature, going through the loop, and sometimes then the myr you just cast decides to resolve and be on the left side? Man, mtgo is weird piece of software.
@CalebGannon4 жыл бұрын
I haven't done any testing so I'm not sure if its actually random or just different for different myrs but yeah something can definitely happen to shift where all your creatures are. It's really weird
@jakobostheimer40664 жыл бұрын
The chances of drawing 3 of the same card in a row @39:05 are very very low
@MrTandtrollet4 жыл бұрын
Watch me play this and whiff with an Ancient Stirrings...