The Soviet Biological Weapons Program

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[@Grak70]

The idea that someone once thought combining mustard gas and anthrax was a step forward boggles the mind.

[@cc-dtv]

get rid of all that pesky skin blocking all the anthrax spores, problem solution

[@NicheAsQuiche]

This is so grizzly

[@matpk]

@@NicheAsQuiche what about Fauci Wuhan Lab Virus❓

[@chadx8269]

Evil

[@richardgraham1167]

stupidity

[@xwidget]

The 1979 indicant at Sverdlovsk is the subject of Chapter 7 of Ken Alibek's book BIOHAZARD. It was the result of a of a clogged air filter being removed without replacement at the end of of a shift. The incoming shift didn't notice the log entry "Filter clogged so I've removed it. Replacement necessary".

[@CRneu]

Answers with Joe has a video on biological weapons programs that goes into much more detail on this incident. Basically, as is tradition, the Russians kept it very secret. They blamed it on the dogs/meat production in the area so they hired folks to go around Sverdlovsk and kill all the dogs. Then they hired people to spray the area down, which stirred the anthrax spores back up, and killed more people. All the while the authorities lied to the citizens about what was happening. So the russians hired people and then likely infected them with anthrax. All while lying to them about what was going on.

[@alexanderphilip1809]

Have to really appreciate the variation of subjects you select. Keep up the excellant work.

[@dongshengdi773]

COVID in China is special. Only in China that COVID Causes Lung infection Causes black tongue Causes skin aging and peeling Causes swollen eyes Causes a swollen face .

[@jackspencer5676]

Nothing like a bit of light festive content!

[@volvo09]

Throwing this on for the family! 😆

[@cc-dtv]

nothing like an aerosol of anthrax that also melts your flesh and lungs

[@sixstringedthing]

When the kids get bored with Disney+ , desperate times call for desperate measures. (Fun fact, that last bit is actually Russia's second favourite national motto after "And then things got worse.")

[@wes11bravo]

Have a nice day!

[@KMcKaig72]

David E. Hoffman's book "The Dead Hand" goes into a lot of detail about the Soviet Bio-weapons program and their nuclear program as well, definitely worth a read for those interested.

[@thursoberwick1948]

And yet ironically, the programme of that tendency continues through universities and media in the west, while edifices such as the USSR and its monstrous defence system have collapsed.

[@hydrolifetech7911]

Added to my list of books to read

[@winstonsmith478]

@@hydrolifetech7911 Book: Biohazard: The Chilling True Story of the Largest Covert Biological Weapons Program in the World--Told from Inside by the Man Who Ran It

[@winstonsmith478]

@@thursoberwick1948 AND in the East, specifically China.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@winstonsmith478 China's already gone bad. The danger is more to Japan and South Korea.

[@KomradZX1989]

Another amazing video! Soviet history really interests me so much because they were so completely different not only in their politics but also the way the did and organized things. Keep the old CCCP videos coming!

[@billhart9832]

In an eerie coincidence you posted this video shortly after I watched an 11 years-old video about a phosgene accident at a Dupont plant in W. Virginia. I've spent most of the last 40 years at industrial sites frequently in the presence of highly flammable, or toxic chemicals and on a few occasions, organic chemical and biological agents. I'm only here today because of quality safety standards, practices, and training. Prior to my time in industry, I spent 4 years in the USAF where Chemical/Biological warfare training was done every 6 months. The earliest part of my USAF service, immediately after basic training was in the Russian language program at the Defense Language Institute @ the Presidio of Monterey, so this strikes home in several ways. The behavior of Russia today is in my biased opinion still suspect, based on working with Russians and conversations with Russian speakers from the13 former Soviet states, and time spent in Kazakhstan. Thank you for another quality presentation.

[@jpcarballo]

Wow. I never expected soviet bio warfare to pop up here. Well done. I first read about this back in college in the book Yellow Rain: A Journey Through the Terror of Chemical Warfare by Sterling Seagrave which was already old when it printed in 1981. I believe there's a recent reprint. "Yellow Rain" was in reference to Hmong refugees in Vietnam mentioning a sticky yellow liquid sprayed from communist aircraft or helicopters after 1979.

[@Phil-D83]

In the 1970s - 80s, they used the revolution in genetic engineering to make real monster agents. Was mostly done in what is today Kazakhstan.

[@roc7880]

the tragedy of soviet union was that they used all their scientific discoveries forr military purposes not civilian industry. and that war never came anyway.

[@iotaje1]

Until a weapon is used in war for real we have no idea whether it atually works. As suggested in the video the dispersion of bioweapons is very sensitive.

[@s.k634]

@@roc7880 True but you have to understand where they were coming from. They had just been invaded and had won an existential war against NAZIs. ..If they had redirected half of these resources - they were expending on the military - on civilian economy, I have a feeling they would still be around and would be just as powerful as the US .

[@davidcollin1436]

The head researchers in Kazakhstan moved to Ft.Detrick in the US where the production of bioweapons continues by third party contractors to give the US government plausible deniability.

[@davidcollin1436]

@@roc7880 and 75% of the US budget is military as well.

[@rickoffee]

While this video is about the soviet biological weapons program, it should have mentioned that the japanese scientists of unit 731 collaborated mostly with the US government (in exchange of amnesty) and NOT the USSR. Fort Detrick inherited most of the documentation about Japan's biological research. Also, Japan is perhaps not the only country to have actually used bio-weapons **in practice** as there is suspicion that the US did so during the Korean war as well as against Cuba (in economic warfare by damaging sugar cane crops).

[@davidcollin1436]

US dropped bubonic plague infested fleas over China, Church commission revealed.

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

There's a Wikipedia page about all the (in)human experiments thr Americans did on their own population.

[@marqsee7948]

no collaboration with the Americans, the Japanese destroyed almost everything and everyone involved. After the war, when the US found out about it, General Douglas MacArthur made a deal with Japanese informants to grant immunity to the physicians of Unit 731 in exchange for all the surviving information being delivered to the US only. Therefore, the US didn't need to do any of these experiments, nor did they eat any Japanese babies, despite an odd disinformation museum somewhere in Japan.

[@raygamma36]

Those accusations against the US have both been thoroughly debunked. The Korean accusation came from the Communists and after the fall of the USSR, KGB documents proved it was a lie. The Cuban accusation was made by Castro and was also false.

[@mmmmm49513]

If the 50,000 people figure is correct that’s totally insane. That amount of manpower on a bio weapons program sounds unreal

[@stanislavstoimenov1729]

A significant percent of those 50 000 people are engaged in different roles in securing the facilities, the researchers, and in all of the operations needed for guaranteeing the program's highest degree secrecy.

[@gregparrott]

Very good summary. I wish I could remember the name of the Soviet bioweapon facility that was revealed around 1991. It was still ongoing despite Russia being a signature to its ban. It was BY FAR the world's largest. A photo showed something like 9 GIANT fermentor vats, supposedly with enough anthrax (or whatever they were making) to kill everyone on the planet (if ideally dispersed). None of the names, descriptions or photos presented here seem to match what I previously saw. Does anyone else know the name of the facility?

[@sibazonumpurum188]

I believe you're talking about so called Aralsk-7 or The Resurrection island

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@sibazonumpurum188 Resurrection island (I'm pretty sure it's not resurrection island, but rather rebirth island) wasn't a production or research facility, it was a test site where they did live weapons tests with their bioweapons on test animals. It was specifically chosen because it was so secluded and easy to keep people out, being an island far ofshore in a massive lake. They had no fermentors there though, they solely did tests with new formulations and strains on test animals out in the open. So maybe you got a few things mixed up? I know there's the Vector institute, which is where they did a lot of their bioweapons research and where they also keep their live smallpox virus, one of only 2 known locations on earth to hold live smallpox, the other being at the CDC in the US.

[@yvetteveres8235]

Wuhan....covid

[@redtobertshateshandles]

@Yvette Veres The US could have released Covid or anyone.

[@yvetteveres8235]

@@redtobertshateshandles we Fund Gain of Function aka ..Bio Weapon Are you a lefty

[@stefanodadamo6809]

Soviet defectors were often not to be believed unless hard evidence was found. They mostly said what they knew certain people wanted to hear from them. That said, Soviet programs were nothing short of criminal. But they weren't alone, far from that...

[@davidcollin1436]

The US followed suit even dropping millions of bubonic plague infested fleas over villages in China. Anthrax was sprayed over San Francisco in the 50s.

[@mattluck2826]

yeah a lot of people think this stuff is just cause the Soviets were uniquely evil and refuse to accept this was the norm. propaganda is so efficient.

[@SuperHorsecow]

​@@alexandrep4913 100%. English speakers miss out on so much Soviet Source data that is yet to be translated.

[@Barten0071]

He dosen't show any sources even, only wikipedia

[@mattluck2826]

@@Barten0071 I always tell ppl if they go to the root of what most of the things they think they know about the Soviets, most of it came from the cia. their propaganda is so effective and Americans are trained to never ask questions.

[@SteelBlueVision]

We need your help to fund and support the dismantling of the bio-labs that do not exist.

[@Acein3055]

Your videos are excellent because of the content but mostly because you don't have background music, noise, and kettledrums interfering with the narration.

[@Guy-Lewis]

"All nations have personalities. Some nations have personality disorders." ~ Sigmund Adolfus Freud

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Considering Freud saw disorders in practically everyone, I don't think he'd know the difference between a personality and a disorder.

[@Guy-Lewis]

@@ArawnOfAnnwn You didn't understand the joke, did you?

[@LucidFL]

Sigmund Fraud

[@Guy-Lewis]

@@LucidFL You're missing the point.

[@mudra5114]

All nations have personality disorders.

[@galanthusnivalis788]

At the moment China enjoys its own bioweapon program. Rule#1 Dont fuck up lab security while developing bioweapons.

[@stevengill1736]

Scary stuff - I recommend a book called "A Higher Form of Killing" if you want a pretty good historical overview. And don't forget those freaky Novichok agents...and then there's polonium....

[@demidrol5660]

now we choke

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Polonium isn't used as a weapon of mass or even local destruction, it's used for assassination operations.

[@AlexanderSylchuk]

I can't tell exactly, but I remember that poisons for their special services were developed separately from biological weapons.

[@davidcollin1436]

Polonium is present in most fire detectors as well in anti-static devices for photography. The novichuk substance is only known to be produced in UK Chemical Weapons lab,"coincidentally" just down the road from the alleged location of the victim dosed and blamed on Russia.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@davidcollin1436 Nope, that's Americium, not Polonium. And the Novichok series of nerve agents were invented, produced and stockpiled exclusively by the Soviet Union, and later on the Russian federation. The Soviets invented the Novichok agents with multiple requirements in mind; 1. Circumventing the Chemical Weapons Convention. The precursors needed to synthesise the 2 already known series of nerve agents, namely the G series (discovered and first produced by Nazi Germany in the 40's) and V series (discovered and first produced by the UK in the 60's) were under heavy international restrictions and monitoring. Thus the Soviet scientists were tasked with synthesising nerve agents which could be produced from precursors not listed on the OPCW's list of restricted and monitored precursors. 2. Overcoming NATO protective equipment. The equipment used by NATO to protect their military personnel from chemical weapons was all standardised and the Soviet Union knew the specifications of that protective equipment. The Soviet scientists were thus tasked which synthesising nerve agents which could overcome NATO's protective equipment, like suits and respirators. 3. Binary agents. Although some G series nerve agents were inventionally even discovered and produced as binary agents, it was predominantly the V series where that became a known possibility, and something which was made use of. Binary nerve agents are like the nerve agent version of 2 component epoxy glue; the 2 individual components are relatively inert and safe to handle, but when they are combined and thoroughly mixed they form a new compound which is extremely active. To facilitate handling, storage and transportation, both at the production facilities, storage sites, and in case of war on their way to wherever they were to be deployd, the Soviet scientists were tasked with developing the Novichok agents in such a way that they were capable of being deployed as binary agents. Nice try though, Vladimir. Your claims are just as believable as those 2 Russian "tourists" who claimed to merely be visiting Salisbury in the UK because they wanted to visit it's "famous" church, as they drummed up Wikipedia facts on said church like 2 mechanical drones.

[@drpapa26]

Mixing anthrax with mustard gas sounds like a very Soviet thing to do

[@metagen77]

Commissar Plaguvich Viruslav Bakteriov

[@sideeggunnecessary]

Lmao

[@raygamma36]

😅😅😅😅

[@nutzeeer]

Afaik hitler was against biological and vhemicsl weapons was because he was affected by them in Ww1

[@bend3842]

More likely because he was a ww1 vet and saw how inefficient they were in trench warfare ( GB statistics show nearly as many own kills as enemy kills ) Also it doesn't fit warfare where you advance fast.

[@cc-dtv]

So hyped to see this video from your channel, anything you upload I know I can take seriously

[@christophermullins7163]

He is incredibly credible 😏

[@marvintpandroid2213]

I here Salisbury Cathedral is lovely this time of year.

[@flexangelo]

lmao

[@techpriest4787]

If you are looking to make a confession then you need to hurry. The cathedral will close soon for renovation. Also please do not leave the self destructing tapes behind. Our office is getting nothing but complaints about the trash laying around and the stink of the smoke.

[@flexangelo]

@@techpriest4787 I like the stink of smoke

[@thedamnedatheist]

Of course, neither side had an offensive bio weapons programme. They both only had defensive programmes. That offensive & defensive programmes are nearly identical is just.......coincidental.

[@anastasiab9506]

the US continues their bio weapons program in other countries including Ukraine. They also are responsible for COVID. It's unfortunate that the world community is unwilling to hold them accountable.

[@miamijules2149]

@@anastasiab9506Yep, obviously leaked from that Wuhan lab…. that anyone still denies it is ignorance squared.

[@AndrewScott83815]

This content is so interesting! As is most every video you make! Just subscribed! Keep up the good work, the detail and research you do is impressive!

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

I just wanted to comment that I really like your videos and think that the standard quality here is pretty impressive

[@anonviewerciv]

2:55 Military Chemical Agency. 8:35 Special Purpose Bureau. 16:26 Biopreparat.

[@saml7610]

Do you think you might do a video on the Russian semiconductor industry in current times? I can't find much on their capabilities right now. You could tie it into the war in Ukraine if you like, or leave that issue untouched and focus on only the technological capabilities. The reason I think it would be a good video is because when the war started, many sources insisted sanctions would stop Russia from getting chips they need for weapons manufacturing, but that has turned out not to be the case. I found some info about collaboration with Chinese firms, so I'm wondering if there's an interesting, sovereign semiconductor industry really developing in Russia as a result? I can't read Cyrillic very well so I've struggled to find much info.

[@angeloluna529]

that's a good video topic, the "news" media here in the west has been completely unreliable with information whats actually been going on in ukraine. we've been told many times russia is running out of artillery shells that would last in less than a month 6 months ago and that has already been debunked. i think asianometry hasn't touched the ukraine russian war yet because he'll likely be labeled as a russophile.

[@Dan-hx6ni]

He made one already, kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJCXg2eObKaKqrc

[@saml7610]

@@Dan-hx6ni that's one part of the equation, but clearly things have changed since then, so I'd be curious to see an updated video. Maybe it would be more interesting to cover in like a year or two? Things have yet to settle out, so I imagine these things will be somewhat easier to cover, with more information available, maybe sometime around 2024.

[@hydrolifetech7911]

Why did you find that info? It's interesting if true and I would love to read it

[@konstantingr5928]

there is barely any production of semiconductors or chips in russia . Yes they can produce some chips/conductors but its on a experimental scale and are unable to really mass produce them . Russia has been stockpiling chips for several years . so to assume it would run out of chips for its production in a few months was a terrible assumption by western media. But yet again it served as propaganda. Its like thinking russia will run out of missiles very soon . Not a single real military expert that actually has sources in Russia would say that the army would run out of missiles in a year long war. They have been producing equipment for decades and stockpiling it. The only addition of new chips is simply trough blackmarket and recovering from old supplies of military/consumer goods. And even at current moment no consumer good is being taken apart. Meaning supplies are big enough. Nice videos after 3 months into war seeing that RF army is dismanteling washers and refrigerators was just ,,, misinturpitation of what was actually going on . And served as propaganda for the western audience. And so far even china is stopping its export of semiconductors and chips to russia and stopped its coorperation with certain Russian companies .

[@learneconomics2021]

I really love your channel! Hope to see one video about the Soviet semiconductor Industry (or the attempt to create one)

[@alexanderphilip1809]

That would make for an excellant addition to the Soviet playlist.

[@duret-robertlouis2973]

Yes, and their studies on ternary computing perhaps

[@alamagordoingordo3047]

@@duret-robertlouis2973 Soviet ternary would be great.

[@Theoryofcatsndogs]

He already make one not long ago

[@onlyplaysveigar7241]

he already made one.

[@alexmaccity]

I love your Soviet videos. You're a great narrator

[@astrataway7077]

This channel is really coming into its own.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

2:30 the same thing for Germany, they had 2 competing nuclear programs

[@Т1000-м1и]

Old movies had a lot of sources for inspiration

[@ronaryel6445]

I met Ken Alibek at George Mason University in the late 1990s-2000 time frame. I enjoyed talking with him. At the time I was a key subcontractor on RODS (Real Time Outbreak Disease Surveillance), the U.S.'s first automated bioterrorism detection system housed at the University of Pittsburgh. The U.S. was quite fortunate to gain the knowledge and talent of scientists like him.

[@joshandicoechea6770]

Ken Alibek was not a civilian he was a red army officer who was a scientist. He worked under general Kalinin!!! Read the book biohazard great book.

[@sixstringedthing]

Well, this is certainly going to be a Comment Section of All Time. Thanks for another interesting historical video.

[@ahtheh]

I have no clue how Jon makes exactly the things I want

[@Theonixco]

14:45 The specific Sheep kill incident being referenced is probably the "Dugway Sheep Incident" where a test of VX nerve gas was inadvertently dispersed outside a controlled testing ground by a droptank. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_sheep_incident The documented affects on the sheep by national news were pretty gruesome, hence the push to cancel the ongoing programs.

[@KorianHUN]

"Mixed anthrax with mustard gas". Yep, this video is gonna be wild.

[@kemalkurt5257]

I think a video for soviet chemical weapons program could really nice too. For novichok etc.

[@davidcollin1436]

Novichuk is now being made in England

[@kemalkurt5257]

@@davidcollin1436 it could be im not an expert just suggested video idea

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@davidcollin1436 Ahahaha. No.

[@raygamma36]

@@davidcollin1436 more bullshit. This Russian Troll has these false fact reply comments littered through out this whole commentary section.

[@guderian557]

'miles'? I thought this video was about the soviet union in the 20th century, not the dark ages.

[@donquixote3927]

The strength of measurement systems can be detected by observing how long they continue in everyday use.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@donquixote3927 Considering out of the 200 or so countries on earth the ancient measurement system known as imperial is only used by 2 or 3 countries, that would mean it's weaker than a geriatric patient in hospice care.

[@robertscott8226]

There must be a special place in hell for anyone who would inject a sweet guinea pig with a bad virus or a bacteria.

[@skivvy3565]

I still think japan’s unit 731 is by far the worst of this sort of testing atrocities. The USA, UK and others are horrendous. But it’s not as well documented as the holocaust was with operation paper clip and the Japanese were also given the same sort of political immunities for tests that rivaled Germany just for handing over their medical findings for peer review.

[@skitidet4302]

Don't put too much faith in anything that the Soviets have claimed. They have been well documented to lie about literally anything to hide their own sins and at the same time smear others. Take the Katyn massacre for instance, it's pretty clear that they tried to frame the Germans for what they did. This was only really brought to light because the poles where still pushing for the Russians to tell the truth(other nations where more reluctantly pursuing the truth because it required them to admit that "Nazi propaganda" was telling the truth in the case of the Katyn Massacre). No one besides a few very ostracized individuals are questioning whatever heinous accusations that where leveled against the Germans, in fact, it's basically outlawed in many places and where it isn't, it's completely socially unacceptable.

[@life-sf1oz]

Don't compare atrocities one doing worse then the other doesn't justify the latter

[@jakedee4117]

Directorate 9, Unit 731, absolutely terrifying stuff. I have come to the conclusion that a department's name is inversely proportional to the seriousness of their actual work. If you're working on Project 681 then you're doing some heavy stuff, if you're working for the Peace Love and Democracy Institute then you're full of shit.

[@lenas6246]

yeah mate, those people researching democracy are full of shit, unlike real men who prouduce stuff to destroy humanity

[@jakedee4117]

@@lenas6246 I don't think you really understand my point. The organization chooses it's name to effect how the public sees it. Highly important secret projects have highly obscure names. The Manhattan Project wasn't in Manhattan, that was misdirection. An organization that feels the need to advertise it's true and excellent motives in it's name is highly suspect, as they have betrayed their desire to be perceived as doing good rather than just the desire to do good. Any man who introduces himself as "Mr Cool Cat Groovy-Dude" is most likely an utter dickhead.

[@tommos1]

Now do one for Japan's biowarfare program in Asia.

[@tommos1]

@@alexandrep4913 That video was borderline Imperial Japanese apologia.

[@vincere_]

@dinarrani8623 '100% ex cia' lolwot lmao

[@iotaje1]

@@alexandrep4913 No he didn't? He explained why the Taiwanese have a somewhat positive view of Japanese colonialism, contrasting it with the other Japanese colony at the time who kept a very negative view of it.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@dinar rani again with America agent thing.

[@drthirdworld3190]

I noticed he forgot to mention that after WW2 the USA also pardoned several unit 731 personnel to get their data from the brutal experiments performed on human subjects.

[@galanthusnivalis788]

China: hold my beer!! Covid was born

[@ligmasack9038]

Fun Fact: you can go online and order all of the building blocks for things like Smallpox and make it in your own Kitchen; and it can be done for less than $10,000 USD; which means it IS the "Poor Man's WMD".

[@bubba99009]

You can't cook up a virus in your kitchen any more than you can order building blocks for a moose online and build it in your kitchen - the "building blocks" for it are samples of the virus.

[@ligmasack9038]

@@bubba99009 You are wrong about cooking up a Virus in your Kitchen buddy, but you keep telling yourself otherwise.

[@bubba99009]

@@ligmasack9038 lol ok then explain how to create a virus out of thin air. There's a reason even the soviets were starting with viruses they could find and collect in nature.

[@TheReubenShow]

I love this content. Clear, dry, and heady, like pinot grigio. Stupid Dry January.

[@bubba99009]

One of the worst things about Unit 731 is that the US let them skate on it in exchange for all the data they collected in experiments against their unwilling subjects - and the data was garbage anyway since the experiments were more torture than science. Would be a great video topic.

[@EpicThe112]

Unless they were relocated to Fredrick, MD Camp Detrick the US Bioweapons Site.

[@drthirdworld3190]

Yeah, I noticed he forgot to mention the USA pardoning several unit 731 personnel (and other Japanese military leaders who would otherwise be considered war criminals) to get Japanese intel and support for the cold war.

[@davidcollin1436]

The Soviet defectors also work for the US bioweapons program, coincidentally continuing work on genetically mutating Corona virus and making bioweapons combined with tularemia. You get a cold then die 2 weeks later, sound familiar?

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

@@drthirdworld3190 the USA did the same with Nazi researchers.

[@jakekaywell5972]

You're wrong about data collected. It was barbarically-collected, yes, but it proved invaluable for U.S. efforts to develop their own anthrax vaccine. Without that Japanese intel, many more people would have died to disease.

[@simonlinser8286]

oh man... this is gonna be a crazy video

[@percyleojackson9497]

Amazing video bro👏👏. Could you also maybe make a video of botulinum? I've looked but have not found a comprehensive, all bases covered video like the ones you make.

[@juliusraben3526]

Theres enough written information out there. Try google?

[@CheezyDee]

Oh God, he's back at Rebirth...

[@artsh123]

Now we need a video about US biological weapons.

[@mceajc]

Happy New Year, everyone!

[@paradox_1729]

The parallel lineages make perfect sense actually. It diversifies ideas and approaches and creates a semblance of competition inside a socialist system.

[@mod4rchive]

yeah but as asianometry is capitalist leaning, he prefers monopolies. kinda weird that actual competition was made in an authoritarian state lmao

[@PhoenixIgnisChannel]

It's not like socialism is opposed to competition. It may be less prevalent than in capitalism but competition exists just like two departments in the same company competing against each other. But what does socialism do that's different from capitalism is that companies are allowed and incentiviced to collaborate, share technologies and new innovations with their own "competitors".

[@saml7610]

@@mod4rchive I'd advise against the term "authoritarian" since it doesn't actually really mean anything. I think the term "centralized" or "consolidated" actually describes what we're talking about much better, since it describes structure instead of overarching political attitude. I also don't know if our boy is that capitalist. He seems quite open to different ideology, acknowledging that different systems may be necessary for different states depending on culture and material conditions. If he's a capitalist, he's one of the most thoughtful ones I've heard speak. He seems to mostly be uninterested in ideology, instead, simply interested in what works best in a given situation. I'd like it if more people were like him. Too many folks are not open to different ideas.

[@mod4rchive]

@@PhoenixIgnisChannel the final state of capitalism is fully monopolized companies and socialized losses. You should know that

[@taith2]

You can have multiple parallel projects within one research facility, without doubling on hardware and office people Easier to maintain and control, creating literal closed city for it So yeah, a lot of inefficiency and unnecessary doubling of work Also separated teams could not share their expertise, making research cumbersome Only possible advantage i could see is loosing all biological warfare capabilities if one would surprise attack the facility For example nuclear weapon research in US was popping new designs like there is no tomorrow

[@Nick-tv5pu]

The thing that scares me the most about the Russians messing around with these things isn't the new weapon that they'll come up with, it's how bad will they fuck up while developing them and accidentally infect people and be completely unprepared to track it

[@markbowden7238]

Now apply your logic to the history and use of Agent Orange in chemical warfare and it's cumulative effects 1948-present day. You could include it's application in psychological warfare and study the allegations made against Russia that they used it in Afghanistan and other places. You could look at the lawsuits filed against the US/UK governments by Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, resulting from actual use not alleged use. Get some perspective on how dioxins enter the food chain and cause genetic anomalies that are passed down generations. If you understand these things then you will understand how we will all be affected eventually as the number of victims grows exponentially. Over 4 million victims already, resulting from one (minor) war in Malaya in which only approx 500 British troops were killed over 12 years. Ukraine, let's say they lost 150,000 kia in one year =411 per day - let that sink in.... even if it's one quarter of that amount, let it sink in. This is going to be bigger than Vietnam and Afghanistan combined. So if you factor all the other wars and total up the victims in all those countries its likely, wild guess - 25 million, plus the guys who fought there, plus their children and grandchildren... likely adds another million. That's going to mean billions of people by ... some point in the future that will be much sooner than you imagine - because of maths and because the toxins cannot be eradicated from the environment. And if your dna is mutated there's nothing that can be done. But if it helps you cope, then fine worry about Russia. The very least you can do, is never go to those places or if you do, take precautions. If someone you care about is thinking about going, make sure they are clued up too. Point I'm making is, unless we stop fighting... billions of people are going to die one way or another. You might as well be rabidly anti-war or rabidly pro-war, don't dick around in the middle.

[@Nick-tv5pu]

@@markbowden7238 Man these bot devs need to realize no one reads their shit

[@artemplatov1982]

Naah be more wary of the Americans they already did it once

[@markbowden7238]

@@Nick-tv5pu another lie

[@davidcollin1436]

Many US labs have had emergency mistakes as well, one in SF was thought to have affected 10,000 by a contaminated lab worker on public transportation, he died within 20 hours after leaving work at the veterans hospital working in a third party contract lab

[@Smart-Skippy]

#Asianometry you make wonderful documentaries for intellectual viewers. Thank you sincerely...!

[@enissay9950]

I am not sure if you are planning a series about the topic, hopefully yes since other countries also have similar programs such as the US and many of its allies... Keep it up!

[@radspencer8187]

The island they conducted research is called "Rebirth Island". I don't know what is more horrifyingly ironic.

[@SeanLawlorNelson]

Thanks for this review. The Soviet Union had a reasonably extensive biological program and storage regime; But when we westerners unreasonably forced the collapse of the Soviet Union, everything was for sale. Nuclear weapons and bio-weapons like polio and the black plague were put up for international auction and not always to states but to organizations; which naturally don't declare their commerce defense tools. I disagree that an effective modern biological weapon should have a short incubation period; I recommend a mutated, adapted shingles virus with a steadily mounting incubation period of circa five months; one that essentially takes over the body and becomes contagious but doesn't show serious visible bloody symptoms until five months in most cases. It would be fatal in circa 85 percent of cases; some would suffer and survive. War is a dangerous business; I do not propose we have any way to protect our own people except a superior teamwork and civilized, orderly, humanitarian hospital and medical system. Shingles even in its unsharpened natural state is so contagious it flies right through the air, through masks, through body suits, over about a football field of ground: weird science, huh? I do not propose we start this war; We are civilized pacifists. But our enemy populations need to understand that to attack us is not to bring on a gorilla wrestling match but a high-science, hybrid extermination war effort; our effort will be to inflict so much damage you never trifle with our kind again.

[@cuckoonut1208]

I can't wait to watch "The Chinese Biological Weapons Program", next.

[@thursoberwick1948]

A lot harder to investigate. "Tight lipped" doesn't even begin to cover it.

[@bubba99009]

Yea that would be an instaban from KZbin for making a video about that.

[@whysoserious7553]

Say hello to covid 19

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@whysoserious7553 Wasn't that an international effort?

[@whysoserious7553]

@@thursoberwick1948 no it's Chinese f*ck up

[@yuyongbin]

could you talk about evil japanese UNIT 731 and the country that take overall stuffs after ww2? more detailed please

[@life-sf1oz]

If you know about it why do you want him to talk about it?

[@clytle374]

That was a different subject matter. Enjoy your factual and no BS style. Good video.

[@kokofan50]

Biological weapons are complex and expensive, but compared to the complexity and expense of nuclear and chemical weapons, they’re relatively cheap and easy to produce.

[@rkan2]

Compared to a lot of biological weapons, nuclear weapons are a lot more accurate though.. For now.

[@bubba99009]

Chemical weapons are significantly easier to deploy and much more effective with less chance for blow-back than bioweapons. Effectively weaponizing bioweapons is something any nation who has messed with them has always struggled with and never really got past. Weaponizing chemical weapons is so easy a cult can do it, and has done it.

[@gamerforlife9865]

Hello asianometry, is the Spotify podcast discontinued?

[@punditgi]

Always look forward to these videos! Great job! 👍 Still hope you will ditch the obsolete "micron" in favour of the officially recognized "micrometre ". Thanks! 😀

[@SF-fb6lv]

I bet 'micron' will never die because it is easier and faster to say than 'micrometer'. The idiotic term 'angstrom' (not a mod 3 exponent) truly deserved to die.

[@punditgi]

@@SF-fb6lv I've seen plenty of articles with angstrom. The only sure way is to use the SI. 😇

[@sarcasmo57]

They still have them. Using them would be suicide.

[@ffkarle]

I would like to find a copy of your chart on The Epidemics And Pandemics With At Least 1 Million Deaths. I tried searching Google and discovered tons of stuff, but not this specific chart.

[@BobWidlefish]

Now do one on Amerithrax. Very interesting story that’s different from the initial official story.

[@master1588]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_sheep_incident

[@iotaje1]

He literally mentions it in the video?

[@BobWidlefish]

@@iotaje1he only mentions the superficial aspect that it happened. I’m encouraging he actually look into it and do a program on it.

[@nagi603]

19:20 that sounds like a certain scam-cult started by a sci-fi author...

[@BojanPeric-kq9et]

How many from 731 ended in US and released after few years and ho many in Soviet Union? Nice twisting of history.

[@ihmpall]

Ivan here’s your 20 roubles for todays spamming. Keep doing it or you go to front line next

[@BojanPeric-kq9et]

@@ihmpall facts make someone's butt hurts...

[@BojanPeric-kq9et]

@@ihmpall Sorry John, I didn't recognize you. Drink your favorite Kool-Aid and enjoy. If you have anything against spamming, sorry, but spamming is US invention.

[@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156]

Damn I love this channel. Great work.

[@Iverson605]

In the middle of the 90. US opened biolab near Almaty, Kazakhstan. It was sponsored by ministry of defense. When internal documents were licked to the public they replaced sponsorship to different ministry. It's interesting to see how people tend to forget there own history and think that now is somehow everything is different...

[@raygamma36]

Wrong. Never happened.

[@lsudx479]

Damn. Those scientists were trying hard to get the men's butts discount.

[@bbirda1287]

I got chills up and down my spine several times during this video, and then you said "but the Soviets were far behind the US until Nixon" My brain borke Those pictures, man, how could they enter those buildings and put on that gear. Nightmares

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

Remember, most of these people lived through purges, war, and starvation. When people starve they start to die to disease because the immune system is weakened, and blaming the disease is almost pointless (it is the starvation). Despite how scary these programs seem, the repeated lesson to learn is that it's actually very hard to kill off healthy people without exceptional and very focused interventions that are difficult to accomplish. These people were used to standing near dangerous things and being careful not to make the wrong move. When reduced to the numbers of people killed, they would have considered the threat very manageable. For example, if 50% of people were infected, and 20% died, that would be trivial compared to the deaths in bombings, mass killings, fires, or the torture/gulag apparatus of the state. In many ways, it is the legacy of these tough people who endured so much that modern Russia is the way it is. The toughness in the average person makes it possible to do horrible things that a more sheltered and sensitive population wouldn't tolerate.

[@appidydafoo]

Fascinating, thank you so much

[@switzerland]

Crispr will bring these to the next level😮

[@bubba99009]

It already has.

[@theirDevil]

Former island, Lol. I wonder how many heads that line went over.

[@robertchen8297]

Now tell us about the US bioweapons program.

[@quadrugue]

I hope it’s not a trailer for 2023 😅

[@tngardener231]

Marburg. I watched a video that said Marburg had a slim to none chance of showing up again unless used as a weapon. The Soviet Union often used it in warfare. Here we are today the CDC is asking the US to look for symptoms of Marburg. Coincidence.. probably not

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

Yup

[@rogerdodger8415]

We should apologize to the Russians for our use of bad pronunciations of their biological murderers. Those Russian soldiers slaughtering innocent Ukrainians will be outraged!

[@michaelcannaday3046]

At least they made a good cheap vodka after all of this...

[@IamAWESOME3980]

Umbrella corporation

[@helloworld0609]

How about the US equivalent of these programs?

[@SUNRISE-ADVENTURES]

ROCK ON!!! Love yer work!

[@JoeMama-pt4tm]

I see it didn't do so well but I really enjoyed this video

[@manofsan]

*Seems outside of the theme of this channel*

[@thursoberwick1948]

Most of the USSR was in Asia... so...

[@manofsan]

@@thursoberwick1948 - I thought this channel was mainly about the microelectronics industry, which happens to be based in Asia

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@manofsan He's done something about Soviet computers as well as about the Sri Lankan collapse, Japanese corruption and Singaporean success...

[@vincere_]

@@thursoberwick1948 NOOO YOU CAN'T EXPLORE OTHER ASIAN TOPICS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN!!!

[@ricktow66lcc83]

Love this video! This scared me!! I wish is taught in high school igh

[@edward9674]

Such a terrifying subject. I hope no chemical or biological weapons ever get used in the future like in WW1, sino-japanese war and the second italian-ethiopian war.

[@davidcollin1436]

Try covid19+, Boston University has already created an upgraded version that kills 80% of infected. Using Omicron ease of contagion with a few twists they have succeeded in creating the next killer in an urban lab and they recently refused to stop production of the bioweapon.

[@euanreid6682]

Like WWI?... what a clown... the Americans dropped 12 million gallons of a biological weapon on Vietnam that killed thousands and left 150k children mutated.

[@carlnapp4412]

What about China and Covid?

[@kingofthend]

But Tankies always told me Soviet Union good :(

[@2345ghyt]

Nice content

[@zachjones6944]

Glanders can also effect humans.

[@charleslynch340]

Terrorist Organisation: Aleph Structure: Yoga Meetings Lol

[@JohnnieWalkerGreen]

20:20 -- Mikhail Gorbachev? Read my lips: That must be around Reagan's era.

[@thedamnedatheist]

During & after Ronnie Raygun's tenure.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev

[@Christopher-po8pt]

Damn there are and have been some insane people on this planet.

[@thebikehut6603]

I love your work, but it's Kazakhstan (3 syllables), not Kazakhistan, as you often say.

[@Testing-fw1hn]

how does it feel getting 10s of thousands of views each video for whats essentially wikipedia articles with photos u found on google images

[@mtwata]

Now one on the USA using Agent Orange in Vietnam

[@master1588]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_sheep_incident

[@theresafenyvesi9765]

Katherinburg....