Ask a Psychopath - Why did you decide to get treatment?

Why did you decide to get treatment?
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Confessions of a Sociopath: A Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight
by M.E. Thomas
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[@cececooke7684]

It’s nice seeing a Psychopath interviewed outside of a prison.

[@RyuKyu.77]

They roam everywhere in society, they're probably your politician, doctor or teacher! That is scary but at the time, if they understand their condition and actively try to police their own behaviour, I think it's fine

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

@@RyuKyu.77 they dont. the second they can exploit they will.

[@RyuKyu.77]

@@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate I'm just saying it'd be nice if they did, most don't, that's kinda why we're in a mess

[@SAMEntalhealth]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@AlbertoGarcia-yb4ih]

CEOs, and politicians, they tend to be psychopaths, I see them being interviewed all the time!

[@AndrewEpstein-d7u]

I love the psychopath soundtrack. So upbeat.

[@benjohnstone8692]

My favourite comment

[@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole]

@@benjohnstone8692 Like elevator music. Hollow, empty, devoid of meaning. Yet so dancable!

[@ArmyReserveChaplainsAssistant]

🤣

[@DevoidVoid]

​@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 😂

[@milicamorgan1]

When she was talking about feeling like a gas it reminded me of Patrick Bateman’s monologue in American Psycho where he talked about not being “there”

[@swiftbeatrice776]

Very accurate. This entire interview reminds me of how no one actually knew patrick bateman, he was just an "idea" but not a person. Patrick Bateman cant relate to, or empathize with, other people. He can't make a "connection" with others, he can only use them for company; the company gives him some kind of comfort but not real friendship.

[@heusker]

I thought of that too.

[@IloveJesus777j77]

​@@swiftbeatrice776Jesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.

[@IloveJesus777j77]

​@@heuskerJesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.

[@dentkort]

​@swiftbeatrice776 That's how you know they're not "predators", but actually handicapped by brain damage.

[@uggggggghhhhh]

This really made me appreciate therapists. I dont think I could do what they do because I see this woman and hear her answers and I think that if I were actually there, I would have zero idea on how to interact with her, much less how to help her. Now I know why good therapists get paid so well.

[@dashkinblacksmith3998]

she has probably constructed these other emotions to feel like the therapy is working.

[@corrina1963]

she expresses herself well, it probably wouldn't be that hard to give her therapy.

[@johnbeans2000]

You do know therapists get paid right? It's like any other job and sitting there listening to a psychopath babble sounds really easy.

[@uggggggghhhhh]

@@johnbeans2000 Did you read my comment? I said I know why they're paid well so obviously I know they get money. Are you a therapist? They do more than listen. They help people but its almost impossible with psychopaths because they don't see anything wrong with their behavior and don't want to change. Have you ever tried giving people advice? Its not easy because they all have different ways of thinking, of doing, of growing, of being, etc. "Just be happy" isnt going to work on someone in therapy for depression. Now consider schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline, anxiety, ptsd, etc. They dont just sit there. They change they way you think about your feelings. I doubt you could gget someone from being clinically depressed to mentally healthy all on your own by "listening", with zero education or experience. They need to understand their disorder and them as people and how do you understand someone that suffers with some disorder you have never had? Advice I give you could work for you but not on another person. I genuinely think therapy and being able to befriend people of all walks of life go hand-in-hand; that's not something anyone can do. Consider social, cultural, religious, political, gender, etc limitations too. All of that plays in to how a person thinks and acts.

[@johnbeans2000]

@@uggggggghhhhh i tried reading this then i remembered i dont care.

[@smee596]

i found it quite fascinating when she said the main factor that caused her to get help was because as her relationships in her life began to dissolve, which limited her 'career' options. such an unusual take on how her gain was being threatened and thus led her to seek help and alternate ways to approach her manipulation, rather than the loss of friends around her.

[@jordanchen23]

I mean it's good that she's taking steps towards treatment and personal management for her own benefit and by extension ours. But what's concerning is the way in which she pursues treatment entirely for her own ends until the outcomes approximate something the rest of us would deem "acceptable" even if only in terms of superficial appearance.

[@DeBergeracs-s1n]

​@jordanchen23 Probably, the only thing that can be hoped for if the clinical definitions of psychopathy are correct.

[@desvega5849]

Most of the research on treating psychopaths that I ever read in university, and since, point to there being almost no other viable endpoint than the psychopath learning to adopt what one's society seems as more "acceptable" behavior, but it'll never change their nature. This disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder are incredibly difficult to treat not only because those afflicted are seldom convinced there's anything "wrong" with them but also because the nature of their personalities involves underdeveloped areas in their brains and it's nigh impossible at this point in time to radically alter (or perhaps repair) brain structure in such a way as to further develop said areas.

[@jakezarbrezhoneg4110]

@@desvega5849 That's why I don't think she's a psychopath.

[@WardenOfTerra]

@@jakezarbrezhoneg4110 - She's a sociopath, which is a form of psychopathy.

[@bradydeangelo284]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to 2 psychopaths interview each other.

[@DevoidVoid]

Search up MrGirl talks to Aella, especially the him making her cry bit. Promise it's like two AI having a conversation and faking emotions and taking sadistic power trips the whole time. It's genuinely baffling to see even as someone on this spectrum 😂

[@seek_to_understand_]

@@DevoidVoidit is past midnight where I’m at, and I’m definitely gonna go down this rabbit hole

[@seek_to_understand_]

@@DevoidVoidbro. I’m a minute and 25 seconds in to your recommendation, and holy shit am I terrified. If you have any more please drop the titles for me. Oh my God, this is insane. Ok back to the megirl video

[@JvjfjHghxc]

Ive heard somewhere that if the world only consisted of psychopaths that everybody would still wear social masks and be kind and polite while trying to manipulate each other. So i guess it depends if were talking mask on or mask off. It would probably be like something out if house if cards.

[@robmcrob2091]

I can tell you now a psychopath interviewing another psychopath would not be that interesting. Interviews work best when the interviewer has at least some interest in the interviewee. Psychopaths have no interest in other people beyond how they might serve their immediate needs. 2 psychopaths interviewing each other would likely just be a bunch of boasting, attempts at asserting dominance and manipulation.

[@sunshine_hun]

So very interesting. Love to see an actual person with psychopathy to explain us what it is all about. Thank you so much for this interview

[@thegodofmoneymaking]

how to know whether I am a psychopath or not?

[@8180634]

@@thegodofmoneymaking Start studying on the topic to understand the characteristics of a psychopath and then try to determine if your behavior matches the definitions. Possibly also visit and mental healthcare office and ask their opinion.

[@jhxcczs]

@@thegodofmoneymaking read about the symptoms of psychopathy and if you think you might have some of them, look for help and talk to a therapist, they will know how to guide you. Best of luck 💙

[@VeNuS2910]

you will not want to be around one. i met someone like this, i am so glad i went far away. you will have to keep the distance for your own safety and sanity.

[@thegodofmoneymaking]

@@VeNuS2910 how you know it was a psychopath?

[@esthermirandalima]

This is one of my favorite videos on the internet now. I find psychopathy so interesting and hard to understand at the same time. I loved when she said it’s hard to have feelings!

[@huhwah5387]

No, 9

[@mealovesyu]

@@huhwah5387😂

[@UtkarshSingh-qw6md]

​@@enlighteneddragonfly6813 Hi dude I'm one of them

[@naelpontes8444]

"If there's nobody around me, then I'm nothing". This is such an interesting dilemma for people with NPD and ASPD. Because at the same time people mean nothing to you, they mean the world to you, because they're those who validate your ego and your accomplishments. A life without people for those with ASPD or NPD is a dull life.

[@kikithepupper6774]

They're leeches. They don't care crap about human being enough to not feel guilty for causing them pain, but they can't live without them because humans are their energy source

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

This woman isnt a psychopath shes a sociopath 🤦🏻‍♀️i cant stand people who think their the same as me especially when its people in the medical field saying it ☠️

[@JDdr86]

​@chelseachyannejessyyork Check the explanation given by Dr Abigail Marsh and Dr Kent Kiehl on the subject. The valid and accurate scientific term is psychopathy. Sociopathy is not used in any psychometric measure, it is a pop psychology term for the most part. Just type their names in the youtube search bar, they'll explain.

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

@DavidMayTheII 😑haha.. 😂eh im alot like deku from My Hero Academia when i was a kid if someone yelled at me id start balling my eyes out 😅so we are normal some of us might get nervous i do about things were just fundamentalists 🤷🏻‍♀️ were born this way and those who are made are actually Chess players😅 which the military scouts for just like nasa scouts at science fairs they tried getting my mom in with bioengineering

[@Србомбоница86]

​@DavidMayTheIII guarantee Chelsea is not psychopath lol ,the woman in the video however absolutely is

[@doris2793]

I once worked under a psychopath and had to request another manager. It is very telling because you knew he was pretending emotions and feelings. Behind his eyes was dead space.

[@EmeraldEdge72]

Omg dead space!

[@aijazsiddique8713]

Lord the dead eyes! Once you see them, you can never unsee them.

[@secondstarllc]

Its almost like this is her first incarnation as a human. Like her past lives were animals or inanimate objects the way she describes hungry as a feeling.

[@KatrinaDancer]

Don't insult other animals. My dog has way more emotional intelligence than this homo sapien 😝

[@158-i6z]

@@KatrinaDancer actually, you're probably right.

[@andresandres1666]

​@@158-i6zactually probably the exact opposite, psychopaths have destroyed their souls in some human incarnation, so she at least has some human backround

[@richardjulien3345]

​@@andresandres1666why are you people dragging some weird pseudoscience into this?

[@andresandres1666]

@@richardjulien3345 because we can

[@SRobinson-hr6me]

She doesn’t even realize it’s weird to smile constantly. I appreciate her effort.

[@Mark-he8kc]

She read somewhere,that smiling makes people more comfortable with you...

[@Mike1614YT]

she does seem happy, and she looks off to her right all the time. Shes a little bit hot

[@meraculus-zn3zx]

I don't think she realises saying something bad then smiling isn't something people really do maybe she just hasn't heard anyone really talk about something bad hence theres little training data

[@Azari8030]

well its because she knows she is manipulating the viewer so she can't stop herself from laughing because this is another effort for her to manipulate with people. She is just one big liar who gets a kick out of fooling people now with this thing with her going to therapy

[@Cris-rv4kv]

Everyone smiles constantly nowadays for no reason and only now it's a problem uh

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

It’s nice to hear a psychopath being so honest. Oh, hang on a minute … I guess we have to trust that she is telling the truth.

[@tc98826]

Yeh I trust about 50% of what she said. Eg I dont think she feels more emotions than before, thats basically impossible. I think shes realised she SHOULD feel more emotions and therefore has learned to pretend better.

[@a4ewald]

I love how we have zero empathy for people with zero empathy.

[@bigbug04]

After watching "What things you have done" video a part of me said screw this coldhearted person. But another voice said, she is missing empathy because she is a psychopath, she didnt choose to be this way, why would you hate her for this condition? Turns out, its pretty confusing and hard not to dislike someone who is missing empathy and acts accordingly.

[@swiftbeatrice776]

@@bigbug04 But, is hating soemthing that is so void of depth that bad? I mean, if you hate a reptile, would the reptile even be aware? Would the reptile appreciate it if you did care? The reptile will never care about you, so is it foolish to be concerned about such a thing? Does a doorstop care what you think of it?

[@missasyan]

​@@swiftbeatrice776 I mean, she's still human. The wiring in her brain has made her act this way, unavoidably so. Let's be grateful her environment wasn't so hostile that the psychopathy could've led to worse things. Now it's less about nurture and more about nature. I think it's wild and just kind of sad she doesn't understand empathy that much. Still, I would never want to help her myself after hearing the opossum story. Therapists are crazy bro I could never talk to someone so...off. She's not really void of depth, or a snake, or a reptile, I think she's still capable of learning empathy. It's just that empathy is a very important part of being human, or of humanity, and the absence of it makes us want to treat her like how she treats us: with indifference, like they're incomprehensible machines, or something.

[@ybanzen]

oh no, this is so so so sad for me. i cant believe how screwed up the brain structures must be for it to be this bad....

[@uggggggghhhhh]

​@@bigbug04she can certainly understand what causes pain in others and can therefore choose not to do that

[@zerosoma33]

“I decided to get help with my manipulation because people were onto me and I needed to become a better manipulator so they wouldn’t think I was manipulating them.”

[@thisusedtobemyrealname7876]

The sad thing about this is that even though I have some empathy for her because her condition is not altogether her fault, I would still not interact with her beyond very surface level interactions because it would absolutely be not safe for me to trust her knowing the way she is. I'm glad that she is gaining insight into herself yet I do not think that how she is and acts can altogether be cured no matter how much she herself thinks that she is getting better.

[@aijazsiddique8713]

Absolutely. I agree with you here and I have personal experience as my benchmark. I made the mistake of having empathy for someone like this and they purposefully ruined my life. I pray that they become self-aware someday and stop being a nightmare on others.

[@kenishahammond3935]

Maybe psychedelics can help with the prefrontal cortex of the brain?

[@tufab3494]

@@kenishahammond3935 only temporarily, and many times they come back even more dangerous (except MDMA)

[@MayorOfYouTube]

@@kenishahammond3935I think I read psychopaths were given LSD and it only helped them to better mimic emotions and manipulate others.

[@Taganoym]

​@@aijazsiddique8713 My uncle was a very giving person, he gave people anything they wanted. As soon as he got a brain tumor, no-body visited him except for his close family, and his so called "friends" didn't come. He is alive, thankfully, but he lacks reflexes and awareness of surroundings. My mother tells me that I shouldn't be too giving, I understand her.

[@Wild8Cat]

It's chilling to think the only reason they even begin to consider changing is if their actions start affecting their own life negatively, never because they realize what they're doing is hurting others. It's all 100% just about themselves, through and through. I feel bad for the people who end up in a relationship with psychopaths because it must feel really lonely, disconnected, and empty.

[@nicoleharrington9086]

Exactly

[@barboralitvanova5111]

Well the diagnosis is that they don’t have the capacity to understand and connect to others emotionally. It’s like blaming a colour blind person that they are not understanding what green looks like.

[@Wild8Cat]

@@barboralitvanova5111 They do know the difference between right and wrong, like everyone. So they could make decisions based purely on rational basis, if they actually wanted to. People they are with tell them all the time that their actions are harmful and hurtful. But they don't listen to that.

[@barboralitvanova5111]

@@Wild8Cat I would also not do the right thing because I know it’s the right thing if I didn’t feel it. Abstract rules usually mean very little for people if they are not internalised.

[@Wild8Cat]

@@barboralitvanova5111 Well, I would not. On principle alone.

[@_xeere]

I find it interesting that someone without empathy would define themselves in terms of other people.

[@holotrout]

Yeah, it’s pretty cool tbh

[@tjfSIM]

Yeh, such a strange paradox. I think this is true with narcissists as well. They need other people to make themselves feel complete, and give them a sense of purpose and identity. But they use people for that - they don't ever feel anything for the people they use, except a fear of being abandoned by them.

[@jenniferweed2552]

hmmm. good point. We had a president like that @@tjfSIM

[@uggggggghhhhh]

Yes, I thought that was interesting. Especially because psychopaths do not care Imo, I think its because psychopaths are narcissistic (though not all narcissists are psychopaths) and they dont emotionally care if their egos are threatened, they care because they understand that having a bad reputation will not help them get what they want. People are more susceptible to manipulation if they like or respect the person manipulating them.

[@MarieTheOstrich]

psychopaths live for the experience. they lack something fundamental to be a fully formed person, so they act upon instincts and needs to for stimulation

[@m900l4]

The trouble is with these people is that , ( i know from experience , i am 99% sure someone i dated in the past was a psychopath or sociopath rather ) is that they DON'T GIVE A DAMN about you or about themselves deep down. They will say such kind words to you one minute and sounds genuine then when they hear something they don't like , they will say something cruel or be cruel. Everything is superficial. They literally only care about what food they are gunna eat that day, they have a home to go to and how they can manipulate others for their gains. They don't even CONSIDER others because they don't have empathy so if they wanna socialise with you it is because they want something or it fills a gap in their day but they don't care about you.

[@AlbertoGarcia-yb4ih]

I lived with a psychopath (girl from NZ) and all she cared about was herself, money, and sex. She was amazingly charismatic, and confident, which is one of the things that drew me to her. But after a while you realize you are just there to, like you said, fill in a gap in their existence for the time being.

[@NDAsDontCoverIllegalActs]

That latter part can be said about most people if they're around people they don't like, don't have anything other than physical proximity in common and they're actively antagonizing and sneak dissing them all day when they aren't invading their boundaries knowing full well they shouldn't! Who _would_ care about such individuals? I know I don't.

[@aijazsiddique8713]

Omg this is so true. People are to them just a means to an end. Its so mind blowing. That is why they discard you once they are done with you. And feel zero remorse. Like they say, "everything is supply or has the potential to be supply and if not then its useless".

[@enlighteneddragonfly6813]

Absolutely 100%. Like she said, she would manipulate and siphon off from others. What they do is take for their own personal gratification and needs. It's not what they can do for you but what you can do for them and feel no guilt about what they're doing.

[@kokomanation]

Yes and these people are tough as hell they can go through anything in life emotionally unharmed.Extremely creepy individuals I am pretty sure their good behaviour is pure acting

[@Jillian.Dreams]

Went through a breakup with a psychopath, he was cold and strange at times, but he wasn't the horror other people describe psychopaths as. I kept wondering if he was a psychopath but thought he wasn't because of it so I thought he must love me that my suspicious were wrong. I am convinced now that he never actually loved me, these videos are helping me understand the different variations and spectrum. I really appreciate them. This woman and her interviews are SOO much like him, some things it feels verbatum something he would have said. I thought he was autistic, and maybe he's a dual diagnosis. but he is so much more like this woman than what I've learned of autism.

[@KrakenWind]

Considering that humans for at least 10+ years have to rely ENTIRELY on empathy to survive makes us irrationally afraid or unnerved by those who lack it. Empathy, alongside communication, is the barest foundation of a society; people who try to be edgy and say that society doesn't have empathy or need it are forgetting the 1 absolute reason why they've survived to adulthood; someone cared enough to feed, clean, and shelter you as a newborn and toddler.

[@tc98826]

Parental love is a little different from empathy. You can have parents who dont understand you but are nontheless devoted to you. But its a fair point.

[@Initium1000]

I have borderline personality disorder and I see some parallels with relationships here. I have the same problems with employment, friends so on etc - everything is ruined and I start again over and over. BUT when I watched her other videos, she doesn’t care about animals, people - anything. It’s like she got therapy not to feel better but to see how she can create a template to get a better life but not be a better person.

[@kikithepupper6774]

at least people with BPD like us actually truly have empathy and care for another and can love. Just that it's so unstable sometimes because of our shaky sense of self

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

Im a psychopath the woman in the video is a sociopath with a narcissist ego

[@spookeymo]

@@chelseachyannejessyyork hey i have bpd and im studying psychology because im fascinated with personality disorders especially, do you mind me asking if you've always felt this way and how you remember your childhood? to clarify, diagnostically there's only aspd and the terms sociopath and psychopath are used more colloquially, but they're both thought to be some forms of aspd

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

@spookeymo ill prolly reply in parts so..

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

@spookeymo for me and my childhood i wasnt antisocial i just sort of became that i was more intelligent then other toddlers by 4 or 5 i started to not care to talk to others for the lack of their ability to understand that "im not a child im smarter then you think" 😅i gave up on kids my age and tried to talk to adults to have intelligent conversations 🥲which they just told me to go away🤷🏻‍♀️ at 7 i had a severe traumatic brain injury so i dont have all my memories but i was a very social kid i liked making other smile being a psychopath knowing how the world is i always it was better to be happy then sad all the time so why put worse out there its very confusing not being able to understand why others care for ppl they dont know but im a empath so i can still feel some form of their emotions ect* like that . My entire existence is a head injury none of it makes sense but like i said we have emotions but it takes different things to get to the same place

[@jujubees711]

That's wonderful that she recognized that she wanted a change for herself.

[@SurnaturalM]

At 48, I'm starting a therapy for my ASPD. I also have psychopathy. That interview is useful.

[@AJ-tx6vf]

Good for you for seeking out treatment once see a pattern, definitely an inspiration for others!

[@Vusha100]

Thank you for confirming exactly what I thought. Psychopaths have 1 thing in common: their teeth are always expressing a smile uselessly while they are talking constantly betraying the way they really feel while expressing themselves to others. This is happening in every video with this person. I have a friend which acts just like this psychopath.

[@JaySee6669]

The 'chewing on something else' expression.

[@cosmiclounge]

N=1 is hardly a dataset.

[@ashookamanuela1901]

so you have 1 psychopath as an example and thats why you think your friend is a psychopath?

[@dmgsoultogetherness6667]

lololol 😁

[@kruegerdabby]

Slow down cowboy. It could be a manipulation strategy true. But just because you see one doesn't mean their all like that.

[@kellywade8275]

I can always deal with people who recognize, acknowledge, express to others and seek help regarding their issues.

[@irw4350]

its great to listen to someone who is obviously very intelligent describe their own condition in this way & she is very perceptive - even though she cant feel the emotions & feelings she discusses, she can still see them at work in others and is able to recognise that her own behaviours are deficient - for example the drowning opossum - that these actions are not "normal" - (on a human average scale). I lived with a diagnosed schizophrenic psychopath for 2yrs - and it really was a roller coaster ride ! She was sectioned and I could bore everyone with stories about it, about suicide attempts etc, but lets just say that I am very relieved that it ended over 20yrs ago - and yet she seemed very nice, was Very attractive - but like they say - the lights are on but there's nobody home.

[@MarmaladeINFP]

That is fascinating, assuming what she says is accurate. The defining feature of psychopathy is deficient or entirely lacking affective empathy. But it sounds like, in therapy, she may have actually learned to develop some affective empathy. So, the potential was there, if it had never been previously expressed and developed. I wonder if that is true or if she has merely figured out how to better mimic emotional behavior. High functioning psychopaths can have high levels of cognitive empathy, and so maybe she is just compensating better now. How would we know if she really was feeling more nuanced and subtle emotions now?

[@SOak145]

She said she's been diagnosed as a Sociopath though. That is different to a Psychopath. Sociopath's have both cognitive and affective empathy, but it's just that it's significantly reduced. Whereas Psychopath's have no capacity for affective empathy. Perhaps in her case the existing but nonetheless still reduced capacity for affective empathy, was simply expanded or re-awakened after therapy etc. ?

[@anak_kucing101]

Again, it's wrong saying "high functioning" since psychopathy is a spectrum.

[@waynepolo6193]

@@SOak145 Both are under the clinical umbrella of ASPD diagnosis. This is because the diagnostic criteria are fundamentally the same for both, but they manifest in opposite or contrasting ways.

[@colorado841]

She seems like the kind of person who could step on a Lego and say "oh I think I just had an emotion." She is probably the same way in her relationships.

[@Nobiemon]

So, what kind of treatment is she undergoing? I always thought that psychopathy was untreatable.

[@chainbenwa2713]

It is untreatable. They teach you how to fake emotions to better fit into society.

[@wishesandfishes]

Symptoms can be managed

[@Peace-d6r]

There's always exceptions to rules and outliars in science plus we only know so much we know about the brain . Nothing is set in stone in my opinion just current knowledge. I see it unhealthy for people to say this is the science anyone else is wrong cus science can always change improve and realise they are wrong. I. Think socio and psychopathy is way more complex than we realise and i think its a spectrum but i could be wrong

[@TuberoseKisser]

Most likely therapy....like she said.

[@marcuspatwell]

to be a psychopath is to suffer from the symptoms of psychopathy. To not be a psychopath is to not suffer from the symptoms of psychopathy. Psychopathy is curable as the disease is fundamentally symptomatic. Psychopathy is a combination of behavioral conduct disorder(s) that fall under a common impulse, i.e: manipulation. You can resolve your worldview and associated conduct disorders with therapy and psychoanalysis, therefor psychopathy is objectively "curable". However, people usually aren't identified as psychopaths until their behavioral conduct creates serious problems in their lives- the resentment may have built up to a degree by this time that, while possible, it is highly unlikely the individual will rehabilitate themselves during their lifetime. We in society punish psychopaths, as normal people learn from punishment, but psychopaths feel punishment is just another obstacle to overcome in their objective. It is also subjective. If you were trading mortgage securities, you would be rewarded for "psychopathic" behavior, as you would present very strongly in negotiations, and would likely never accept a deal that puts you on the under hand. Try doing that to customers at taco bell, and see how far you get before you're wearing an ankle bracelet. TL;DR: psychopathy is fundamentally curable, but the psychopath must want to be rehabilitated, which means they must have done considerable work internally before seeking treatment. As such, the treatment rate is low, but most individuals who reach for help end up finding it in a meaningful way.

[@ConnorParker-qc9qj]

Her grin scares the hell out of me , kinda like the courage the cowardly dog episode with the barber .... Nauuughtyyyyy

[@Kallaste.]

I genuinely wonder how much of her claimed "response" to therapy is genuine, and how much is just standard psychopathic manipulation. This disorder is based in brain structure, and while I certainly hope we can achieve some changes there through therapeutic action, I have serious doubts that therapy alone could create improvements of the caliber this woman is discussing.

[@bulkzkk5925]

Your guess is as good as anyone's. Now as a Christian I don't believe that anyone is beyond redemption, that said I have my doubts about these kinds of people. Then again even serial killers have been known to find Christ and nothing is beyond God's power. But in the end I really don't know. All I can say is that I can occasionally feel empathy but at times I'm like stone cold and don't care about others at all. I don't want to be this way and I feel the Lord is changing that slowly too but you know... Not many people are like this by choice, it's a consequence of trauma, damage to the hypothalamus and the like

[@BlueB-bx6nh]

Learned behavior!!! Therapy will get her that !!!

[@Enough_Is_Enough_Official]

Most therapists won't touch a psychopath as the vast majority of their techniques to manipulate don't work. Personally as an antisocial and sadistic psychopath (think Dahmer, Kemper, Bundy type) as soon as I walk through the door I'm calculating every little detail about the therapist trying to sus them out and use everything from body language to how they've decorated their office, their outfit, jewelry, makeup and speech to get the upper hand so they will believe the mask. I'm self aware how dangerous I can be even though I enjoy it I've learned to only target people deserving like child abusers, wife beaters, liars, cheaters etc so I isolate the majority of the time for everyone else's safety. Every therapist has said I'm impossible to read, blend in far too well and even find forensic psychologist easy to manipulate because they have the human element barrier which works to my advantage.

[@flies9244]

Interviewer: "Why did you decide to get treatment?" Psychopath: "Because. I want. To fit. In." Que Simply Irresistible by Robert Palmer

[@yrgarcon]

”If there is nobody around me then I am nothing”, such an interesting insight to how she felt. ”The chameleon dissapears when there is no one around”. Wow, isn’t this quantum physics, the particle that is only visible when we look at it… My brain is on overdrive intellectualizing this.

[@nicoleharrington9086]

I get what she's saying

[@aijazsiddique8713]

Fascinating right? There was a sociopath I knew once. I stopped imagining/predicting what he was up to or who he was hurting. I realized until I was in his vicinity and actively observing him, I will never be able to realize what he was up to. Total nightmare.

[@yrgarcon]

@@aijazsiddique8713 I should have just said that your encounter with a sociopath sounds like a dream scenario :)

[@BlueB-bx6nh]

It is linked to a lack of a strong sense of self , hence her describing herself as some sort of vacuum . Not only psychopaths experience that !!!!!! I urge you to be a tiny bit more curious in analyzing vs judging . It will do you some good .

[@yrgarcon]

@@BlueB-bx6nh who are you reffering to as judgemental?

[@maxs3724]

Everyone in the comment section is like “don’t think you can fool me I know your evil” it’s funny how empathy only matters to a human when they get it in return

[@jamesmccourt9782]

This is fascinating. It's like she is gracing us with an insight. AND, realizing that she had to open up a little to do it.

[@VeNuS2910]

to normal humans it is called "being considerate of others". to psychos it is just called "emotions". it is wonderful to know that "emotions" could be taught to them at least.

[@beachthor1]

Love the huge smile as she says she had problems in relationships and employment.

[@ricdavid7476]

i am 70 and definitely a psychopath and she describes what i have felt all my life, nothing , no treatment or self medication has helped

[@karenalves1156]

Woah 70 years living this way, it would be interesting to watch an honest interview with you like this one.

[@ricdavid7476]

@@karenalves1156 Not sure it would be that interesting. As far as i can work out my psychopathy is derived from an internal emptiness upon which layer after layer of what is in effect an act had been placed since i can remember. Ultimately it is all about self deception. For what its worth I think i lived the first 50 odd years of my life totally devoid of anything resembling a conscience and it is only by the grace of God that i did not end up seriously hurting people. That said i made my first wife have an abortion , something that haunts me to this day. She got very ill after the procedure and nearly died and whilst she was in the midst of her illness i left her. I then married again and treated my second wife very badly, no physical stuff just emotionally. Come my mid fifties i had a crisis of "conscience" due to infidelities and drug addictions and it was at that point my life changed somewhat i became a "born again christian" ( i no longer am religious or call myself a christian) and started developing a conscience and what i suppose could be identified as human emotions and feelings. I still suffer from feelings of alienation and dont warm to people much and try and avoid them where possible and have terrible insomnia. i was diagnosed with prostate cancer about a year ago so am dealing with that now. My life is not particularly interesting just life i suppose. I try and find beauty in nature and animals and find young children very charming and heart warming despite not having any of my own. I was badly sexually abused by a teacher when i was in my very early teens and while i dont think that was the sole cause of my woes, i certainly dont think it helped anything.

[@ricdavid7476]

@@karenalves1156 it would be boring karen.

[@mili6580]

​@@ricdavid7476 do you ever have been curious about how is to experience life as normal persons are supposed to do? (blinds, deaf, paralyzed, autistic and other people with physical or mental disabilities do)

[@ricdavid7476]

@@mili6580 no not curious more a profound anxiety and constant feeling of loss trying to feel genuine emotion and empathy and truth. everything i am and do seems to be false and forced , i must admit to feeling jealous of those who are genuinely happy polite and courteous in their dealings with their fellow man.

[@freza980]

The only thing that makes me think she's psichopatic is that she's smiling even when she's saying the messed up things

[@glorytoukraine5524]

There's more to psychopathy than Joker edits on tik tok

[@freza980]

@@glorytoukraine5524 Did I say that all psychopaths are like Joker?

[@isv1759]

You should watch the other episodes where she talks about manipulating people and torturing animals while smiling

[@naelpontes8444]

I get what you're saying because it sure is creepy, however, laughing or smiling when saying uncomfortable things can be a pretty common mechanism, it just means you don't know how to express it in another way. It's pretty common in many other people, like autistic people.

[@freza980]

@@naelpontes8444 I know but they obviously don't do that for this reason, but they certainly want us to believe it like this because they are really good at miming emotions they don't actually have to appear "normal"

[@Victoria-jo3wr]

I'm grateful you all posted this interview, thank you. I found it to be very hope-giving

[@Lepsaeus]

I hope people finally grasp the fact that individuals with personality disorders --cluster B especially-- *do not have an ego or sense of self,* despite their apparent egoism and self-centeredness. 2:10

[@mavisedwards]

Yeah, it's interesting. She can't see the self in other people or her own self. Maybe it's hard to understand your own feelings when you cannot get the emotional feedback from others. Or she is just missing something that directly effects both.

[@misterhair66]

Imagine the curse of being so disconnected with humanity...

[@Profmillar]

They don't mind. It's all a front. It's a lot less stressful being a psychopath.

[@SaLeMI997]

@@Profmillar they mind care and feel the pain when they are forsaken but they have no other option

[@etherealmoonlight67]

Sad.

[@maxranierus3574]

@@Profmillar they will still pay the consequences...life doesn't care about your emotions

[@AlbertoGarcia-yb4ih]

sounds like a blessing!

[@matthewmark7224]

she is successful because her destructive cycles occur every three years. more compulsive psychopaths would probably have shorter destructive cycles.

[@brianban110]

I'm not trying to make fun of her but she kind of reminds me of a robot. like those A.I. robots that you see sometimes on the news. I hope she does well in life

[@pmlking]

Thats the uncanny valley effect. You can tell something is off because something is off

[@TheOmniMic]

She'll be fine. She's amongst friends in this world!

[@ParmyJan]

​@@pmlkingwhat's uncanny valley effect?

[@BlueB-bx6nh]

She is an accomplished lawyer, and probably won’t need your insincere wishes . Do you know if she did anything horrible? No ! So stop hating for no reason .

[@Србомбоница86]

I envy you on your lack of anxiety lol ,Weak sense of self is CRAZY,I swear I always felt that ,like I am a hologram

[@peterborun5769]

So nice to meet Ms. Thomas! Fantastic book btw.

[@stephanieczekanski3175]

What I hear her saying is "I struggle to have relationships and I want them but I don't know how to make them functional and reciprical so I got help" which seems like a very healthy thing to do. I'm highly empathetic and I'm dating someone with very low empathy so I have to "teach" him what my emotions are and how I feel. He isn't a bad person at all- he's actually amazing and very giving it just doesn't come naturally to him. The flip side is he is incredibly stable and doesn't react emotionally where I tend to over react. He has so many positive traits. I think we need to stop waging wars on people and looking for "good and bad" and focus on connecting and understanding. When he hurts me its not intentional and its not malicious or abusive he just hasn't learned that emotion yet. Its taken time but he has slowly come around. Don't throw people out so quickly. There's always room for connection and growth.

[@thedaily2206]

They get treated once they realize everybody hates them

[@nikobitan7294]

Moreso once they realise that everyone hating them is making life more difficult for them than it has to be. They don't actually care what people think about them.

[@thedaily2206]

@@nikobitan7294 if that's true I think I've been dealing with malignant narcissists then instead of physcopaths

[@Србомбоница86]

​@@thedaily2206absolutely, psychopath don't have ability to care

[@aijazsiddique8713]

Indeed. When they realize everyone is on to them. People understand them and now their life will be difficult because they can't manipulate others at will.

[@Timotheos-td7mq]

A true psychopath doesn't think they have a problem, this lady is not a psychopath

[@Dizzyj360]

That’s ridiculously untrue

[@JoeSettle-g2h]

That’s not true lot some can end up on therapy for other reasons and find there one that way it’s unusual that this last just went for that alone but she is diagnosed they can scan your brain to see if you are one

[@Србомбоница86]

NOT TRUE ,she is a psychopath

[@jhoodied4861]

3:32 That joker smile is terrifying.

[@rachv6764]

I’m confused…. I thought psychopaths wouldn’t seek out treatment, because they don’t think there is anything wrong with their behaviour?

[@okay.thats.enough]

They know in most cases, about everything that’s wrong with them. They just don’t care because of lack of empathy. To put it differently, they acknowledge clearly that they’re doing wrong from an intellectual point of view but they don’t feel they are doing wrong from an emotional point of view. That’s because the parts of their brain responsible for shame, guilt and fear are switched of, with activating only in rare occasions and for a short time. If they get to the point of intellectually understanding that manipulating and hurting people goes against their best interest( as she said every three years her life would crumble) they may change their ways. That being said, is not gonna be a change from an emotional point of view, they will still not feel empathy as they are incapable of it, but they will mend their ways to benefit themselves. If you want to benefit yourself, you’ll need to be truthful, trustworthy, nice and polite, do no harm and the average person will not harm the psychopath. As much as to most psychopath it gives a sense of superiority and satisfaction to either harm others or manipulate them, and they find pleasure from it, to others it gives a sense of superiority and satisfaction knowing what they’re capable of but being so strong and mighty to not do it. One more thing, is not that they have no feelings, is that they have no empathy, shame, guilt or fear, or any feelings towards others. That do care about they’re image though, that’s why they won’t tolerate people calling them out and putting them on a shameful spot.

[@leonfa259]

She noticed that she was self destructive and wanted to stop it.

[@nikobitan7294]

The reason she sought out treatment isn't because she understood that her behaviour is bad, but rather because of the destructive consequences for her resulting from her behaviour. The only way you can teach psychopaths empathy is by relating it to their personal benefit.

[@Србомбоница86]

​@@nikobitan7294absolutely,they do it to preserve themselves in society

[@ednaisabel4741]

They love the attention and talking about themselves. You can see it in her how she can’t clear that stinking smirk.

[@mattolson12]

I think she just described my personality

[@jessickalush3305]

Or lack thereof

[@ihateandreykrasnokutsky]

Interesting, I also can't stick to my career for a long time, and other people are not able to tolerate me in their company for a long time. So I also have thoughts about running out of enterprises where I can work. I can create a good impression for a short time, but in the long run it becomes very complicated and almost impossible, and people probably look through me and see something... wrong may be, I don't know what they don't like.

[@SocialismForAll]

"Smarter than most people" but can't figure out basic friendships and relationships

[@AF-ge4pe]

She basically said her way of acting as a psychopath is destroying her life and success because it badly affects people around her. So she doesn't care about people around her , she is going to therapy for herself and in that way helping her environment. Very interesting to see. Maybe this kind of humans would be useful in a dystopia setting. I wonder where this version of homo sapiens sapiens would thrive if mother nature made them

[@BrianAddington-ic4jz]

Very insightful! Looking forward to your nature/nurture video. Thank you

[@ponikis8399]

This is absolutely fascinating

[@wishesandfishes]

I wouldn't want to be her friend, but i would be fascinated to chat with her

[@andrew_prometheus]

This makes me feel less alone or weird

[@DavenDsota]

Fascinating. I appreciate your honesty, insights and perspectives. I’m going to read the book :)

[@Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria]

Today there is that misconception that many very successful managers, etc. are psychopaths, but she says something very important in this video: if you are a real psychopath everything will break down after a short while and you will have to start all over again. No manager, politician, etc. who is success for years or decades can be realy a psychopath. They may have some psychopathic characteristic but they have to be normal thinking and feeling humans to be successful on the long run.

[@hayleyhawn]

she wrote a book about being a sociopath, she refers to herself as having a personality disorder (psychopathy isn't a personality disorder but sociopathy is), and refers to herself as a sociopath-why is she on a psychopathy video it seems like she is a sociopath?

[@peregrineprude2046]

Psychopathy is the natural trajectory of all humans. It's supernatural intervention that all of us aren't this way. I appreciate her self-awareness and honesty, but I doubt her chosen treatment's ultimate and lasting efficacy.

[@KenChan-d2k]

Teach psychopath - how to feel guilty, how to feel empathy, how to fear, how to love, how to feel lonely, how to feel sadness; looks like training an AI robot.

[@regfordca]

I find her completely adorable, so I wonder what that says about me.

[@maxim3830]

It says that you're able of relating to other people, which is a normal human trait.

[@Hirohitorunguard]

I am a very logical person, so I often cannot relate to people when they have emotional issues, and when I try to explain my thought process to people they don't seem to understand it as I do. I can relate to the feeling of simply not existing outside of the boundaries around you but my logical thinking lets me realize that I am still there as I do have a body and sensations.

[@anaromello]

I believe that a true psychopath can no more feel emotions than a blind person can see. There are spectrums to everything but wherever you are on that spectrum isn't going to be changed by therapy, however you can train yourself into better habits which will get better results.

[@chelseachyannejessyyork]

True psychopath 🖐🏻 we feel emotions it just goes through a different route the difference is that we dont just care for everyone/strangers we have to know the people in order to care essentially were fundamentalists "do they deserve to be cared about" "i dont know them so i cant say" 🤷🏻‍♀️ i recently saw a tiktok comment about something else that helps describe it better "the opposite of love isnt hate its indifference you feel nothing torwards them" sort of like Sam in Supernatural when he lost his soul we know and understand what we should care about but physically we cant sometimes

[@B-fq7ff]

plenty of legally blind people have some vision capabilities. FYI.

[@HollyScarlett_]

My little sister said she only sees me have three emotions as well 😂 yeah I’m always hungry. You know what I have to accept myself first to heal

[@mattlevy914]

That was so interesting her describing herself as not there

[@spasticplastic]

The way shes explaining how she doesnt have a sense of self reminds me of patrick batemans monologue in the beginning of the movie

[@Sirianta]

Amazing interviews! Thanks

[@dreamofskye7400]

The way she doesn’t care about how her negative actions make others feel is chilling to me.

[@rexfordhazelton7601]

This women is somewhat disconcerting, but I feel pretty powerfull positive energy.

[@AnnieDog-arfarf1]

Excellent segment.

[@mediterranean3002]

It's hard for me to not have emotions. I envy her actually. She is happy and smiling.

[@andrewellard7254]

Her eye contact speaks volumes.

[@JuMow_]

Eye contact is sparse with other conditions aswell though

[@Lepsaeus]

She is getting better starting to feel her range of emotions. The lack of ego structure was her problem.

[@xarthhb]

She can't start to feel her range of emotions she doesn't have emotions

[@benjaminwiner6220]

Psychopaths have feelings and emotions and sensations

[@benjaminwiner6220]

They LACK or have DIMINISHED negative emotions such as sadness and they have difficulty with guilt and empathy and remorse and shame

[@Wild8Cat]

"Me manipulating the people I was in a relationship with led to THEM having issues". OMG! Obviously her manipulating people was not her problem but their's. I guess if you can feel no empathy for others, everything you do, no matter how horrible, is their problem.

[@granttaylor4762]

they are too dangerous to be allowed to live amongst us...

[@MarcVL1234]

I relate to this. I'm not a psychopath, I'm autistic. But we mask too. I didn't realize the extent of the masking until I had my diagnosis later in life. It felt a bit like dishonesty, which I didn't like, a sense of maybe being manipulative through false presentation. It's still a process finding who I really am under that mask. I don't think this is specific to psychopathy. It's more general to any people who are neurodivergent, living in a neurotypical majority world. You mask, to cope, to appear to be like others, because otherwise you're judged, bullied, whatever. For me, it was hiding intense emotions, & realizing my external emotional reactions were either lacking, different, or too extreme. I'm strongly empathic, I feel the feelings of others around me, & I have to take pains to avoid letting that affect me, at least observably. My reasons for masking seem to me to be clearly different from hers, or that of any psychopath. She was trying to pretend to have emotions she didn't feel, & I was either pretending to have "normal" levels of emotions (often faking less, rather than more, emotion), or "normal" reactions to emotions. Very different, with a similar outcome. Because neurotypicals can be sensitive to, & highly judgemental of, difference. They're so (in my opinion) dysfunctionally socially oriented. I say neurodivergent people mask, & we absolutely do. But I do think the big difference is that neurotypicals seem to *be* their different masks, in the various social situations they engage in. Meaning, it's not hiding, it seems & probably most of the time is sincere. But it does seem to me like it means their actual & true identity seemlessly, thoughtlessly shifts in relation to their current social interactions, such that it's just natural. That & the unreliable nature of neurotypical emotional bonds (in my experience) makes me prefer psychopaths, sociopaths, or narcissists over neurotypicals. If I know what they are, it's easier to relate for me. I mean, my preference is fellow autistic people. But I find it's easier for me to deal with the other divergent types than it is with neurotypicals. & for good or for bad, I'm most attracted to & like narcissists. Generally unhealthy, it's been a lot for me a bad thing overall in my past. But it's what I like & gravitate towards. It feels comfortable, it feels right, until it doesn't. Neurotypicals never feel comfortable or right, even for the "until it doesn't" time, so I don't see anymore the need to bother.

[@FS-ql1hy]

She's super confident. I'm seriously jealous

[@wtsnewpuscat]

I kind of feel sorry for her, it’s a pity she can’t feel the same.

[@naelpontes8444]

The gas metaphor got to me, sometimes I don't even feel like I'm human. Like a complete disconnection of self. But has nothing to do with psychopathy, as I would probably describe myself as a hyperempath (I'm a psychology student after all...).

[@Србомбоница86]

I don't believe in hyperempaths ,your empathy is mostly shallow and shortlived,I don't think hyperempaths care about anyone truly ,it's all ego driven hipper emotional bullshit

[@jeston1440]

Psychopathy vs sociopathy needs to be explained more.

[@keidwyn]

Its been said that to treat a psychopath successfully would be the same as trying to remove the gallbladder of a Hare in flight.Its amazing how she injects grandiosity even when talking about her sense of needing help by slipping in getting a "law degree"She is not getting treatment she is learning how to be a better psychopath, she can add the language of self awareness to her repitore of harming and manipulating others

[@tccostello]

It's interesting that see was a music major but said she never expressed herself.

[@ManicMindTrick]

2:06 That's straight up the beginning of American Psycho, just said in a different manner.

[@moroccansarenthumanbeings2640]

Omg you right lmaoo

[@ÓGlasáin]

People like her end up I high positions in politics

[@lebumjames1373]

you pretty much have to be lol, no normal person can willingly engage/succeed in politics long term if you aren't socio/psychopathic.

[@jamesdeluca6657]

Its sounds like you learned a lot and applied it the have a wider range of emotions

[@solar2473]

You can tell there is something unusual with her in facial movements. It’s pretty typical then you get that occasional ominous smile

[@Q-154]

"I am nothing." Reminds me of that part in American Psycho where hes doing his morning routine and he says the line, "There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory. I simply am not there."

[@pearlsbeforeswine60]

This is SO INTERESTING!!!!!!!

[@annak4273]

you are awesome for being so honest, do you always smile so much whilst talking?

[@axel-wn3od]

I have a good friend an academic who looks similar to this person and she has also always been grinning while she spoke , many other people commented on it how odd it was ,I was so used to it having known her for years but now seeing this I wonder

[@horacethecheese1009]

She wrote a book at least 11 years ago called confessions of a sociopath if anyone's interested

[@thomsboys77]

Based Queen 👸

[@govindagovindaji4662]

It's be fun to hang out with you~!!

[@MariR-zm8wr]

Imagine how many psycopaths we deal with on a daily basis and we don't even know