Asking the NDIA for receipts to back up their claims

The government is trying to make broad, sweeping changes that will kick disabled people off the scheme and cut critical supports. All on the premise that the scheme is being ‘weaponised by crooks’.
This week we learnt that Minister Shorten spent $400k on focus groups, testing messages about how to get away with cuts to the NDIS.
Here we see the results of that polling play out in real time: claims of absurd fraud and wild “examplars” presented with no data to back them up.
And why? To frighten MPs into voting for a bill that will cut the NDIS and harm disabled people.

[@darryl5537]

About time these people are made to backup their BS.

[@matthewbeale8570]

I'm happy to be a witness and back up their claims.

[@jondoe5536]

The country is run by clowns

[@LizVENVILLE-ti8mp]

You may leave at anytime

[@jondoe5536]

@@LizVENVILLE-ti8mp and so can you

[@DirkusTurkess]

That's not true. I don't see any one laughing.

[@nellyjane21]

@@jondoe5536 as opposed to the corrupt bunch of Tuesdays the lnp are ?

[@mavphill]

Great work Jordon. This is exactly how bureaucrats need to be questioned and held accountable. They are absolutely out of control.

[@Judyunknown1]

WHAT A WEAK CONTROL OF NDIS PAYMENTS.!! SACK THE LOT AND INSTALL A CONTROL DEPARTMENT OF TAX PAYER FUNDS.SACK BILL SHORTEN AS WELL!!

[@derekmottley3656]

EEO policy at your service.....

[@nellyjane21]

I agree sack shorten he’s making my community ‘s life hell including mine .. was doing well looking at returning to wk then they cut my funding by 2/3 sent me backwards since October 23

[@MagickCat861]

Thank you for trying to make Australia politics and the NDIA more direct and transparent. It is a shame that you asking direct questions is treated as being rude and trying to debate when you are simply and reasonably asking for the details of the data of the claims they make. They wonder why the Australian public doesn't trust them - its because all they ever give are evasive vague non-response responses. The stonewalling and the gaslighting saying the question you asked is problematic shows just how problematic Australia politics and the NDIA are. Oh wait, maybe he is right, it is problematic because he has no data to backup the claims?? There should be no problem or issue with sharing that information with the public. If they're going to publicly make such claims they need to make sure they have the data to prove it.

[@mitchelljones4843]

They also haven’t released the findings from the royal commission or recommendations for adaption in parliament (because they don’t want to do it). The government doesn’t like to engage with the community except on their terms. But your comment nails it; thank you!

[@nellyjane21]

Looks like the disability community is going to Be the next Minority to be vilified

[@catherinesarah5831]

Thank you Senator Steele-John, for unearthing THE most inept, unqualified, pathetic excuse for a bureaucrat. He’s probably paid more than you are & can provide less detail than your questions. He needs to go, immediately. 🙏

[@user-rn4xw4ul6s]

Employ experianced trained registered nurses and get rid of these untrained providers no medical training can be dangerous

[@beachbliss9366]

And speech therapists and OTs. We have the most complex people in society being cared for by the least qualified!

[@user-yw1rp4rj4u]

This nonsense is just scratching the surface. The more the providers spend the higher, their fees/commissions. Workers in this sector are discussed given most hard-working people observing these rorts….

[@bushranger900]

Bit like the building sector huh

[@derekmottley3656]

​@@bushranger900 ALP Unionist jobs for the boys ?

[@t-dog8528]

Whoa whoa whoa!!? Who tf gets 480k p.a and isn't a beaurocrat

[@tjmarx]

So, so very many people on the NDIS.

[@kirstineblackley1435]

This is what folks need to understand..the money a participant receives in a plan goes to providers who provide a service...

[@user-yw1rp4rj4u]

I will give you another example. Let’s chuck a tantrum and smash our laptop, Because we know the NDIA will buy us another one. A better one, of course.

[@littletoe9412]

and again the chair is covering for them.. no matter which video you watch.. honestly whats with that..,

[@johncaldwell-wq1hp]

I have actually done this but with a "Sanyo-100"-telvision"--mention "depression"-& your "IN"-

[@jamesaustralian9829]

I'm sick of how these kids with invented problems get all this funding. My niece drives and has two working arms and legs, can look after herself fully, but my aunt has got her all this NDIS crap and claims she's disabled. She's not disabled at all, she just needs a good yelling at every now and then when she's being lazy or rude.

[@MagickCat861]

@@jamesaustralian9829 Your comment is extremely ableist. I don't know what your aunt is on NDIS for but they only approve people onto it if their medical evidence can demonstrate the condition/s are permanent, either all treatment options have been exhausted or no known treatments that significantly improve functioning. Maybe consider yourself fortunate enough to not understand from personal experience what being disabled can be like but don't judge something you clearly don't understand. Just because someone on the outside might look okay doesn't make that the reality - there are many invisible disabilities out there. Maybe instead of judging your aunt, you create a conversation with her and ask questions to better understand what her experience is. And if you don't want to do that then at least don't speak about something you don't know personally and stay away from her if all you're going to do is judge her.

[@reds2312]

@@MagickCat861these people with these attitudes are sickening aren’t they…but really they’re just puppets repeating what they have been taught to think usually by equally unintelligent people who have absolutely no idea what empathy is or even care enough to even begin putting themselves in another persons shoes, let alone a person with a significant disability. They also show once again how easily they fall for false propaganda being spread in compromised media, to create the programme of hatred towards the disabled participants rather than the corrupt providers and aide suppliers who are the ones actually profiting - and of course they want to distract away from the inept ministers and executives at the helm of this programme who refuse to be accountable for the ongoing failures let alone have the capacity to begin fixing the problems. It’s much easier to tell the public all these fake disabled people are getting hundreds of thousands of dollars for holidays and mortgages 😂

[@paulwhelan7781]

This guy is the most honest of all people, compared to so many others at senate estimates.

[@dunoontab7859]

2 categories, the worthy and the unworthy. Keep up the great work, Jordan

[@leeginn7722]

No hard facts it seems, just assumptions.

[@matthewbeale8570]

I'll be a witness. It's about time this scam was scaled right back..

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

Those amounts are ridiculous.

[@chopperking007]

We all know someone thats scamming NDIS FFS

[@tjmarx]

Is it Senator Steele-John?

[@KazikliBey]

No we don't. I worked in the sector, and I met a lot of participants. Most were underusing their plans because they were scared of misusing it. Of those "misusing" their plans, most were doing so because they did not know better (and typically, were using it for things that the NDIS does fund, just not in that particular circumstance or reason). Outright or deliberate fraud was rare, and generally, was done by dodgy service providers or criminal rackets, not by the participants themselves.

[@nellyjane21]

What kind of A 🕳️ are you ? Chopper king .. def the low life kind .. spend your life with legs and you think ya know it all

[@rickozzy6898]

If you are a corrupt person you assume everyone else is also corrupt. It's not new.

[@vivienslennett7197]

Cruises with their carers , massages , getting nails done . You know stuff the tax payers cant afford.

[@richardstead9789]

do these people not understand that if you're going to make claims about things you need evidence to back it up

[@matthewbeale8570]

I'll be witness..

[@mitchelljones4843]

@@matthewbeale8570 ok, please present your evidence then?

[@digger1900]

No receipt no payment.

[@tjmarx]

The way the NDIS works currently, you can call a new car a therapy and get it paid for by taxpayers

[@reds2312]

@@tjmarx. Bullshit 🤡 hating on the disabled are you gronk 🤡

[@KayaJinx]

@@tjmarx no you cant

[@tjmarx]

@KayaJinx You absolutely can, I know of someone who did it and when reported NDIA did nothing.

[@KayaJinx]

@@tjmarx sure you do ,🙄

[@dawnygoddess]

Thank you Senator Steele for bringing clarity to these claims that disabled people are misusing funds. It’s ridiculous, it’s difficult enough to get proper funding. Most of us would never misuse the system that makes lives worth living and provides critical supports. We don’t get any holidays, funded or otherwise. That is the reality of ordinary NDIS participants and their carers in a cost of living crises and still having many ongoing unmet needs and difficulties in life. Most of those abusing the system would be providers that have set up businesses to profit from the system.

[@billburr5881]

Normal people don't get free holidays or free anything! Normal people are expected to pay for their own things and are forced to pay for everyone else's as well! none of this NDIS money fixes the problems people have. It is just papering over the cracks!

[@melananighthawk]

​@@billburr5881 Normal people don't have to have someone else shower them. Normal people don't have to have someone else wipe their ass for them. Normal people don't have to have someone else feed them. Normal people don't have to have someone else reposition them in their bed every hour so that they don't develop pressure sores that go into sepsis. Normal people don't need to pay the wages for someone else to provide these and other basic personal care needs. The few people with large plans (the majority of NDIS funding is used by about 5-10% of the total number of NDIS participants) have those plans because the level of support they need is huge, and hiring people to provide that support is expensive. Not providing that support is often fatal. It's an expense that the average Australian and their family both cannot afford and never incurs, and the actual participant themselves doesn't earn a cent from those funds - it's ALL for their disability needs not for their general spending. While there will always be a small percentage of people doing the wrong thing, that applies across the *whole* of society. Some people don't pay their taxes, some people steal items from shops, some people embezzle funds from banks/insurance/etc. When we catch the individuals doing these crimes, they get punished - and that extends to doing them within the NDIS as well. We don't punish every other person in society for the actions of those few - and the same should likewise extend to those on the NDIS as well.

[@billburr5881]

@@melananighthawk How do you know what problems normal people have? You don't, I don't, you just assume. Just like the bureaucrats assume. If your problem has the magic tick-in-the-box you get assistance, if not, you don't! How did you feel before the NDIS was introduced? That is how people who's problems are ignored feel now. Over 10 people a day kill themselves in Australia, because they do not get the assistance they require. Yet billions of dollars is made available to others. You have problems, I have problems, everyone of us problems. Some of us get help, others don't. Your ability to cope with a problem is not simply related to how someone else assesses the severity of the problem.

[@antonyhoward2759]

Well done Jordon for your persistance with this clown, if you were anything but a Greens member i would vote for you!

[@billburr5881]

The systems are so immature we can't account for the money spent. If they don't have the systems, why are they dispursing the money?

[@anthonycowles3153]

Exactly 💯

[@kirstineblackley1435]

Yep, 10+ years on and no accountability whatsoever. If they can't blame a participant now it's multiple system immaturity or failure...and who is responsible for those failures, well you're looking at him - the one who blames the systems.

[@tlb2970]

Crooks everywhere you look 👹🐍

[@VenturiLife]

It's kind of good in a way, because they are getting found out... expensive though.

[@clairenaylor8346]

How absolutely ridiculous on all fronts. How rude, undemocratic and flawed are our senate committee discussion options, that we cannot establish truth from unsubstantiated opinion or lies.

[@normjones1754]

0:40 If someone is taking money meant for NDIA and using to pay off their mortgage isn't that fraud??

[@mitchelljones4843]

And can’t they take their house? 🤔

[@IamNoodly]

Where is the duty of care or integeity in the claims they are making? It's pure scapegoating, awful

[@user-yw1rp4rj4u]

it’s the providers pushing participants. Spend your money or lose it. The higher, the plan, the higher, the commissions for the providers.

[@offgridjohn871]

God bless ya brother. Have worked with some of those crims… some terrible greed.

[@janescott7605]

They're happy to make accusations, but when asked to back them up they argue that they don't know what the money is spent on. Which is it?

[@mitchelljones4843]

Thanks for calling them on their BS!

[@matthewbeale8570]

What bs? I'm happy to stand up and be a witness to the scamming and rorting going on...

[@mitchelljones4843]

@@matthewbeale8570 then please present your evidence. The difference is; as a public figure making such a public claim you have to be able to present evidence. Everyone knows there’s rorting going on and problems with it. But if you hold the position he does and make such a wild claim about Disablity community please substantiate it with actual proof. It’s all about optics and they make claims but I would hope it would be the like Jordan says, the minority. And again, we agree with address it; but the first step in addressing it is understanding the details and they only ever seem to want to “take it under advisement”

[@michaelbradley7704]

Great questions and retort Honorable Senator. I as a disabled person I am disgusted by short blind answers to these important questions. I find it hard to believe that the NDIS provides any service without a itemised receipt as they themselves make it so difficult to participate in the scheme that I as a person who has a physical disability with doctors and specialists reports can not access the service because they make it to difficult. In fact I think I'm doing better without it just because I don't have to worry about their BS.

[@palikiridena2796]

l don't care what substance the person with disability is on..but when you are paying $450 grand to a single disable person why? why? is it not more carefully dispersed with accountability??

[@tonyhanley9458]

A very reasonable description to the answers. The system was always open to rorting cos of how it was setup.

[@annetteanderson5937]

I sat with a provider with bruised collarbone and lump on my head, injuries from behaviour issues with my profoundly impaired son, listened to how they were here to "protect us", and help me organise more support. They kept setting up all these meetings but nothing happened except for one worker who had no experience, didn't do personal care - presumed I would do it while he got payed, meanwhile they were busy gorging themselves on my son's plan, charging $200ph each for them and their friends to cone to meetings, while I was up all night getting beaten up or cleaning up. NDIS response was to whinge about how much laundry and cleaning funding we had used during what ended up being a health crisis for my son. The system and the providers are psychopathic, they are inciting hate against people with disability and their families, I am frightened about the level of hate being expressed in the media

[@jeremiemarin4055]

Government secrets of our spending. Due to the public wouldn't give permission for such funds to pass through certain hands .

[@tonyhanley9458]

A very problematic answer. Call your bullshit. Back your statements up.

[@geoffbaldwin7971]

How will the amendments identify misspending and how will they fix it. How can someone under the current system claim monthly amounts ?

[@grellis6483]

OMG! How stupid am I ? I'm still buying my own alcoholic drinks! I need to get an NDIS account - almost everyone else seems to have one.

[@lorraine1959]

One would have to ask what is the criteria to be passed as a provider? This man is disgraceful, he makes claims that he cant provide the evidence those claims were based on.

[@iamianjb]

"immature system" is not a valid excuse. If i was claiming benefits from a system i know nothing about and get it wrong, "Immature experience" is not a valid excuse. If i failed to pay tax properly on a brand new tax, "Immature experience" is not a valid excuse. It's 4 years old, this guy should lose his job simply on this alone.

[@bushranger900]

So you will get a holiday and free alcohol to go with it. There are slimers even in the NDIS as with other sectors, but as Australians we accepted the NDIS but F#ck getting ripped off. If you can do it better than apply..

[@1inaMillion749]

Exactly! The systems for tracking & audit should have been in place at the time of roll out. How someone can claim immature systems as an excuse for grossly inadequate management of this program is rather bold.

[@jeffmunkynutz1568]

Thoroughly rude from the chair, most unprofessional. "Order" is the phrase, not "DONT TALK OVER ME" screamed like a petulant child. I suspect HOW the gentleman aquired said information on spending habits would be very interesting considering it cant be publically uttered...... hmmm.

[@Torana1974]

I worked in the community sector for a few years and I can say first hand that the amount of scandal some of these providers get up to and when you look at who is on the boards and chair the whole system is a money pit to provide from the government needs serious investigation have a look at the financial reports with these organisations and you’ll see that. It’s funny these organisations call themselves non for profit haha they need to look at system comes down to the dollar. I mean one organisation was tell me to put it down on the data and charge participants for conversation. I thought that would just be part of the job but they said no charge for this charge for that in top of the quarter million package per year per person! Yeah gets you thinking

[@scorps0326]

He doesn't know, they don't know. I've seen the internal workings of the systems they use for this scheme. They actually do not know, they don't have the data. They are flying blind.

[@beebee1676]

He's lying. It's not an allowance, you can't claim a single thing or service without a receipt & ABN number. I know a boy in a wheelchair that is still fighting to get a wheelchair ramp bc the staff have no clue what his disability is AND he has letters from physiotherapist & OT which is extra costs.

[@tonywheeldon1466]

The payments made to the 610,500 participants also have substantial administrative costs. So in the example the public servant for the agency gave of a person on a $480,000 per year plan you have a scheme that will bankrupt the country.

[@peterpiper2447]

More to the point senator is the question of why are people waiting over 6 mths to have a claim approved by the agency. It is disgusting to say yh least when it is advertised and told that there is a 21 day turn around on applications

[@qp4904]

I have two points to share. One is that you are right, putting such bold and egregious claims into the public domain has indeed been harmful. I am now seeing people calling for the euthanasia and death of disabled people because "tax payers should not be giving them so much money". I had to get off social media this morning because I was so upset that people are now publicly chanting for our deaths. This was started by Labor think tanking how to get participants and the public to agree to cut plans. We all know the main cost blowouts are providers massively rorting money meant to pay for supports and the government paying lawyers to stop people accessing basic supports at the AAT. My other point is about holidays. As a participant who enjoys rules and legislation (thanks to my autism) I am well aware holidays are not allowed. It makes me angry to providers say the opposite. I have contacted Qld Quality and Safeguards to report a lady telling participants they can use their plans for holidays. After educating the woman, she blatantly said she would keep doing it, so I tried to report her. The SUPERVISOR of Qld QSC told me "Yes holidays are allowed". I was shocked and educated her on the rules and told her I was disgusted with her putting participants at risk of massive personal debt because she doesn't know how to do her job. I told her Daniel who worked there knew the rules and she should learn from him. She quickly transferred my call to Daniel, who listened to my concerns, confirmed that holidays are not allowed and contacted the provider to educate them around holidays. Daniel was always ethical, educated, diligent and a pleasure to deal with when it came to provider issues. What got me was that a QSC supervisor, of all people, was telling participants to commit fraud. Revolting. Daniel left unfortunately, but I understand why in that toxic environment.

[@gerrycooper56]

One giant rort.

[@theskeptic2798]

I won't go back to aged care either . Community care is a tax payer trough for the providers and clients

[@LizVENVILLE-ti8mp]

John Dardo, obviously has the best possible life, with no children that have life changing or challenging disabilities. Anyone that thinks NDIS is a hole that tax dollars fall into, has no clue who it actually supports or why. [ Ukraine and Gaza are holes we throw our tax dollars into, but you want that support ,but dont want to support your own back yard, disgraceful] They have no understanding because they are lucky enough to have no one in their lives or radar that needs such a support. What an inhumane conversation to have.

[@gregbuckley1078]

These people would lie to their own mothers, total criminals.

[@Bennie32831]

How 40 thousand WTF the pension is 20 something for a year

[@jasonlarnach6770]

Transperancy.......yeah

[@jamesaustralian9829]

Even though this senators in the clown party, he actually did ask some good questions.

[@SecretSquirrrrel]

As a carer of a disabled person, please don’t punish the people like us who do the right thing and greatly appreciate what we get because of a few bad apples. Also I don’t understand how one could buy alcohol or pay their mortgage off? The money is in the plan, it’s not just given as cash.

[@tonyhanley9458]

Great questions Senator Steele.

[@rickozzy6898]

Who is the rude lady chairing the session? Why does she think there is a debate going on?

[@nellyjane21]

The ndia is lying 🤥 there is no way a mortgage can be paid from a plan ! If it did happen it would be the provider doing the lying & mis appropriation of funds not the participant ! Same goes for buying alcohol & paying rates . Why is this ndia head able to incorrectly say it’s the disabled person mis using funds ! The plan manager is the acc gate keeper not the participant

[@JamesHawkeYouTube]

Very true. Something very suspicious is going on here.

[@theskeptic2798]

How about a weekly trip for client and carer to have nails done and planning a Hawaii holiday .

[@theskeptic2798]

How about a holiday every year , 28 years of marriage , no Gold Coast holiday for us working folk

[@theskeptic2798]

Of course it could

[@markalan1two]

they are talking about participants that are self managed and are able to give the ok to process payments

[@tomagoredo]

$40k a month!!!!!!!!!!!! What the!!!!!

[@margaretchandler-cross-7811]

Chair. We the PWD are targeted with these accusations constantly. It’s extremely distressing to be out in the community having lay people confront us with these accusations. It’s a real affront. I shouldn’t be anxious about being out and about in the community only to hear that I’m one of those participants that “Get Everything” I don’t.

[@VenturiLife]

They probably bought a winery with their NDIS payments. The absolute state of Australia.

[@beebee1676]

If you claim for something inconsistent with your plan you are denied. Providers are taking holidays by getting paid big money to support clients who have to pay their & their support workers costs.

[@edm9527]

The NDIS is funded using MY tax money so I want it used in the right way. The whole system needs a complete review and overhaul

[@richardnord8484]

Oh wow, I will interrupt,and don't you dare talk over me while I'm rudely interrupting you... They always smack down people who make sense of the corruption....

[@margaretchandler-cross-7811]

I hear claims and accusations by the broader public. Aimed at me because I’m obviously physically disabled. If they have proof of these claims and accusations to report it to the NDIA commission. They don’t! They just want to aim these accusations at me.

[@akhalif68]

Quotes from The Saturday Paper article on NDIS Reforms..."After weeks of pressure, the federal government has already had to redraft sections of the legislation, which had been passed by the House of Reps, because a new definition of “NDIS supports” was so badly worded it would have pulled funding from eligible participants"..."They will do so under the specific threat of being punished. “The proposed amendments, including the introduction of flexible budgets, make it significantly more likely that debts will be raised against participants, including for actions taken by third parties"..."Taken together, the changes proposed in the new legislation create a stunning new matrix of uncertainty that disabled people or their carers will be expected to navigate"...The whole NDIS scheme has transformed into a "comprehensible monster"...

[@simonellerton1412]

Very good questions ...

[@bennybottleface8804]

😆go you good thing👍

[@margaretchandler-cross-7811]

I’d like those answers. No I don’t claim alcohol. Rarely do I have a drink and if I do I pay for it myself. I pay all of my own bills. Most of its hearsay and unproven. Argh!

[@tonyhanley9458]

So rhe providers are rhe issue here. Not the actual individual.

[@bushranger900]

Jordon Steel-John so you can't handle the truth

[@Corkedit]

Another example of wealth transfer

[@fourpipes]

Why can’t you accept that some people are rorting the system. Are you hellbent on making sure taxpayer money keeps getting wasted? Shame on you! Typical govi bureaucrat 😡

[@davidcunningham8317]

This is a absolute disgrace!!! As a NDIS Participant myself I have established my own Individual Governance System for my Care Plan and Funding Budget which assist's me to effectively oversee the operation of my Support Network, notably I've offered my Individual Governance System to the NDIA as a Resource for Participants and the NDIA hasn't had the initiative to accept my offer!!!

[@mitchelljones4843]

That ending! They were so rude and didn’t like you speaking truth to power! How about they give some damn answers!!! They make a public claim like that they should be able to back it up (or wait until the systems are mature enough to substantiate the claims)

[@jaskirchner]

How is this crap happening, why are there systems involved that are not put through a basic structure check of having an abn or based on used funds not allocated funds. So how many providers are being paid by this scheme that are not paying the so called clients. This needs to be shut down. Fix it then start it up again. Or atleast bring in a function that includes verification on the provider. Another case of the government doing things by half. What a waist

[@johncaldwell-wq1hp]

HEY-FOLKS !!---LOOK WHOSE "RUNNING THE COUNTRY-!!!"---HA!-HA!-HA!-HA!--no it's not a "nightmare"--

[@arferret]

Absolutely disgusting how the speaker made Jordan close his interrogation down. We all need to know where the information is coming from.

[@graycoin7271]

um um arr arr WTF no responsible

[@davidhilder6826]

The whole scheme is fraudulent from what I have witnessed

[@richardlee6781]

For fuck sake

[@kerrygroovy9428]

Wow it just gets worse the more you pick. This is happening, not just made up. To what e extent is anther thing.

[@garydavo07]

Steele Jon the flog

[@albertopascual3335]

What? Are you f……. real? 😡

[@evelynmcmenamin4330]

Thank you for you exposing this corruption remove providers and employ honest registered nurses senator must keep quiet

[@JamesHawkeYouTube]

disabled people don't need nurses.

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

Meanwhile hardworking Australians that pay for this cannot afford holidays it’s madness they don’t have a choice their hard earned money is taken by governments and wasted

[@davefoord1259]

Yeah thats for sure

[@mariamccaffrey149]

Thank you Senator, the fellow replying looked like he had cooked up the sweeping and unsubstantiated allegations

[@matthewbeale8570]

I'm happy to be a witness to his allegations..

[@gerrycooper56]

So no other country on the planet has their own mature NDIS program that we could have copied. If not then maybe this should tell you we shouldn’t be doing it.

[@tjmarx]

What kind of a tanny was that from Senator Steele-John? Everyone in the country knows of at least one person rorting the NDIS. Be it people on senator salaries still claiming NDIS funds, or others. I know a practicing physician who makes mid 6 figures from work, hides her pay in a trust for her cat so she pays no taxes, then claims NDIS for a brain injury that apparently leaves her unable to do simple tasks for herself that she's never had to substantiate and again is a practicing aphra registered doctor with prescribing rights. She takes that NDIS money (also mid 6 digits) and pays ridiculous amounts to her friend and roommate who then gives her back 90% of it which she puts in that same trust in her cats name. And because it's all going into this trust, on paper she has no income so she also claims a centrelink payment for disability that she's again never had to substantiate. I've contacted aphra, ndia and centrelink about it, and whilst all of them agree she is rorting, none of them feel they can do anything to stop it. 😂 She occasionally uses those NDIS funds to buy alcohol for the record Senator Steele-John. I also know a woman who rents houses off the open rental market then subleases them to the intellectually disabled. She takes all of their housing from their NDIS plan as a non-refundable "deposit" (not bond) and then takes 90% of their disability payment each fortnight, leaving them with less than $100 for living expenses including food for the fortnight. She then hires random people off the street to be "carers" who actually do nothing then takes the entire assistance package from their ndis plan. NDIA apparently can't do anything about that one either. I have a friend who is a registered NDIS provider who has hundreds of stories about people openly rorting the system. The NDIS has nothing to do with disability. It's just an open slush fund for the morally bankrupt to rip off the taxpayer. It should be completely abolished and disability services returned to the states for internal deployment like it used to be. The creation of the NDIS was an even bigger mistake than selling telstra or creating the nbn.

[@glenbelson5485]

Vote One Nation. Never the Greens.

[@jamesaustralian9829]

NDIA and NDIS should both be abolished. Medicare should have extra funding to help those with actual proper physical life impacting disabilities. Im sick of paying for fat lazy people to get their houses cleaned, or yards mowed.

[@mikefitzpatrick6618]

That bloke asking the question is an !!!

[@conservativeview7233]

This is what happens when you elect Labour. Ideology, ideology, ideology. They don't give a fuck about logic, morals, ethics and common sense

[@mrgillagorilla]

Sorry, nurses, you are glory first aiders. Not carers

[@matthewbeale8570]

Get your head out of the sand mate.. It's being rorted from the top down and everywhere in between. It needs a massive overhaul and reduction in payments...

[@johncaldwell-wq1hp]

ONE MAN ON THE 'NDIA"-USED $2MILL-TO BUY A "BLOCK-OF-FLATS"-IN "LEBANON"--according to the "NATIONAL INQUIRER MAG"--Also one man used $850-for a "WHEEL-CHAIR"-FACTORY-IN "BANGKOK"---Syd-Herald -paper 8-10-22--

[@johncaldwell-wq1hp]

I mean $850,000-grand-!!