Stellaris - Clone Soldier Origin Mechanics (Just Like The Simulations)

[@ShadowMalice89]

200,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way

[@airmanbunny9767]

Magnificent, aren't they?

[@cyberfox2936]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who made the 501st Legion

[@cyberfox2936]

@@chobai9996 I did the same when making the 501st. Gave them traits I thought fit the clones

[@BringbackgAmberleafns]

that line never made much sense. 1.2 million clones would never be enough for a war on a galactic scale. it wouldnt even be enough to win a war here on earth.

[@martinfunk4855]

@@BringbackgAmberleafns it depends what a UNIT is. 1 soldier? 5 soldiers? 100 Soldiers? 1 Kompany? 1 Army?

[@xendurr8180]

>Plays Clone Army origin. >Be weak and request to be a vassal from a "stronger" empire. >Build up a massive army. >Execute Order 66.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

Dangerous. They WILL integrate you.

[@linkieloos]

"It will be done, my lord."

[@davecrupel2817]

It will be done, my Lord.

[@flaremag1975]

@@Bloodlyshiva They can't if you're JUST strong enough to rebel before the 10 year mark.

[@8834pogi]

Yes Lord Sidious

[@blitzkrieg8776]

I'm still disappointed Biological Ascension doesn't allow you to build a few more ancient vats or at the very least use the regular cloning vats to maintain a population on a planet.

[@blitzkrieg8776]

@@chobai9996 Yeah, I get that. Just saying it's a little weird odd for it to not at least increase something for the Clone Ascendants.

[@aquicklad972]

@@blitzkrieg8776 Yeah... like 2 more clone vats total, would be a nice perk

[@rooshavik9133]

i came into the update thinking that they added a lil bit more into bio ascension literally just research_all and gave myself crazy amounts of unity only to be disappointed

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@chobai9996 still come on why even go genetic ascension as a clone wace they could at least give you one more clone vat per bio ascension stage

[@fiallachm]

That's why you get robo jailers.

[@kkgc5760]

imagining an evil psionic clone empire that will swallow civilizations whole just give me the shivers, I LOVE IT! I imagine adding the nemesis bonus would make the fleets broken *evil laughs

[@MarcusTSMarcus]

I won’t spoil myself, but my first thought is of the Horatio from Endless Space.

[@IapitusMcHeimer]

First clone army empire i made lol

[@Cythil]

Other clone army, Grineer from Warframe. Yeah. So there are a few options for clones ;)

[@Ian501st]

@Sanguine I love the second one, mainly for the art and music, I suppose I should try the first one

[@Shinzon23]

@@Cythil *Grineer

[@Cythil]

@@Shinzon23 Thanks for the correction

[@Tbcw42]

Been trying to make these guys work as purifiers. It may not be the best idea but starting with +78% ship fire rate is too juicy to not try at least once. (Admiralty civic for that last little bit for anyone doing the math.)

[@A_Spec]

The build I used in this video works exactly like Purifiers. Livestock and "servants" are so so powerful whilst your main pops work the specialist jobs

[@COCCOMOJOE]

use robots and only take big planets. be prepared for a uprising. i have done this and only have 1 ring world and 1 alloy Megapolis. only 20 clones on each of them and the rest are robots. took forever to do.

[@Zoomy]

Ultimate tall build.

[@Fenris420]

I made them cyborgs for another 5% then used no retreat for another 33% fire rate, I almost never use no retreat, but it was too god to pass up on this build lol

[@Nexielas]

Why is "no retreat" better for them than someone other since more fire rate you have without it less usefull it is according to the law of diminishing returns?

[@CaptainSovereign]

The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the Clone War has.

[@vipor_bruce5414]

No one is allowed to like this comment Execute Order 66

[@wickedheart8201]

Make Horatio Great Again.

[@stallfighter]

You cant make Horatio greater that they are already, because *Horatio is perfect*

[@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133]

@Sanguine Endless Legend 2 would be neat. The first one is still great but some big additions would be welcome.

[@Fenris420]

I see people in forums keep asking to be able to make more than a 100. These things are so powerful (easy to get and additional 115% or more on fire rate) I really think there are going to be KZbin videos in the near future titled something like "100 clones take over the universe. Grand Admiral and x25 crises!" lol

[@helicopter2003]

I never knew that clones can be fertile via event

[@A_Spec]

The more you know

[@CHRF-55457]

the clones have always been fertile in Star Wars. At least in legends. don't know about disney canon failures.

[@T-REX-KNIGHT]

​@@CHRF-55457 a clone wars EP showed a clone have a family and kids with a twilek so yes clones are indeed fertile

[@cpaul562]

@@T-REX-KNIGHT he married into that family, they aren’t his biological children.

[@jaybeemccluckin7205]

Need more pops? Open the L-Gate and unleash the Grey Tempest on your foes! Accept their refugees!

[@wintersking4290]

I do feel like it's a little weird there's no interaction between this origin and the actual genetic engineering ascension path. Still this is and epic civic.

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

Having an issue of having 0 habitability on all my worlds, got to figure out what’s causing it first.

[@A_Spec]

Ye, I've noticed this too, the number says 0, but it doesn't actually impact anything

[@lichking3711]

on conquered worlds it does say that when capped but it's back to normal once the colony is abandoned. I think it shows 0 because the conquered worlds will not have clone vats so the clone pops settled there will be on the decline, thus 0% hab

[@airmanbunny9767]

FOR THE REPUBLIC!

[@TheBlobik]

"Of course you can also transition to robots and thats a far more peaceful way of doing things" he said casually when the alternative is abducting sentient aliens to use them as livestock.

[@Snoogen11]

I do love how Montu, Stefan and Aspec all seem to have a mutual interaction, brought together by a hobby. It's really nice to see content creators supporting each other.

[@x0Tassadar0x]

So having Psionics, the Clone Trait, Brain Slug, and any other fun bonuses can get some SCARY level of fire rates.

[@michaeledmunds7056]

Psionic militarist fanatic purifier brain slug clones "My power is to replace the air with bullets."

[@aidenc6343]

honestly I just like your voice and the way you speak you have my attention 100% throughout the video

[@JohndrewtheSylveonking]

Not sure if this was done to balance the amount of army damage you get at the start but, my only gripe is the fact you don’t have clone soldiers at the start, instead start with the regular soldier that everyone starts with. Would have made more sense because not only do you gain ship damage and decreased upkeep from admirals, but being able to train cheaper soldiers at the start would have made this origin even better. I mean it’s clones for crying out loud! With that being said, I find this an interesting origin to RP with. Like, perhaps these clones are the remnants of a by gone species designed to carry on and rebuild or even protect the planet from other empires. I for one did something similar where the main species were killed off by a rare virus and the clones were a last ditch effort to keep the species from being entirely extinct and try to find a cure (Clone Accident or Decedent) and learn how to deal with the other empires surrounding them. For me, I picked Mega Corps as a way to attempt to be friendly with the others and try to generate additional funds to further progress in our efforts.

[@keimaegami]

But you start with the clone armies unlocked

[@JohndrewtheSylveonking]

You do? I must have not noticed. My bad. I have been getting issues since the 3.1 update lately. Sometimes the game doesn’t start and even the launcher breaks.

[@JohndrewtheSylveonking]

I probably wasn’t paying to much attention because I was to busy trying to fix the game itself.

[@JohndrewtheSylveonking]

3.1 has really borked everything up for me.

[@eugenRDR1936]

@@JohndrewtheSylveonking have you tried veryfiying cache on steam ? Maybe you are missing some files Or try reinstalling

[@furioni333]

ofc named it kamino - my man, so proud of you.

[@haryen8876]

I changed the game script and I can build 50 clone vats. I know what real power feels like now.

[@DamonNomad82]

"POWAH!!! UNLIMITED POWAH!!!" -Darth Sidious

[@atomwyrm541]

You are the single most helpful channel and I appreciate you and your videos so much.

[@sorkvild1473]

100 pops limit is my only complain. Sure, you can fill this gap with robots or stinky alien but it's not the same. I think there should be possibility to get more clones like for example special Ascension perks, technology, or something like that. It's extremely hard to play for example xenophobic religious empire with clones.

[@A_Spec]

The 100 pop limit it to stop the species to spiral out of control and make you think about your actions rather than just crank out more pops.

[@justinthompson6364]

If that's your approach then just go for clone fertility. It's not as busted as clone potential but you get a good population headstart and a handy trait. Besides, from a rp perspective spiritualists probably wouldn't be too happy cementing their reliance on technology to reproduce anyway.

[@Healermain15]

It might work if there was some big cost to getting more super-pops. Like you have to sacrifice 10 normal pops, or it takes 10 years to build them, or they cost loads of alloys/rare resources/research/ascension slots etc.

[@CHRF-55457]

You trying to go the death korps of krieg route?

[@GunRunner106]

u can still add the flesh is weak ascension on top of it and make their admirals even stronger also leaders have like a 120+ year lifespan at that point ..... and a millon of base starter perks....

[@mindmanna8135]

Lmao, first thing I did was create the Clone Army of "Kamino" Empire, glad to see I wasn't alone.

[@theatheistpaladin]

I like Lathland's death clones. That was fun build.

[@odin9036]

Anyone else catch what the A.I said when he opened diplomacy? "Because of the evolutionary conditions of Kamino, clones brains are simply less deveopled. It's science, look it up." I laughed waaaay to hard at this XD

[@cheesecakedoublepeanutbutt6511]

"educate yourself."

[@Comicsluvr]

I'm SO glad I saw this on my feed! I read up on the Close background but they looked a bit complex. Thank you for the tutorial.

[@mag287100]

Thank you ASpec for this. I had fun playing with the Clone Army origin.

[@orinocointf2]

Your clones are very impressive. You must be very proud.

[@risensentinel3916]

Time to recreate every clone army from every show that has them

[@sergentboucherie]

My clone admirals in charge of procuring food from other worlds will be named Sanders, McDonald, Harvey and Wendy

[@briwanderz]

excellent video as always... but i feel the downsides need to be mentioned a little more. mainly: your species can't exist (for more then a few months) on a world without a clone vat on it, if you resettle a pop to another world they will decline, rapidly, and die in about 6 months. so you are limited to 4 or 5 planets maximum with your species. other then that you will need to use other species you conquer, or invite in. which means you don't get those great species bonuses on those worlds. also that life span -40 years hits a LOT faster then it feels.. my researching leaders were dead on year 18 and 20, they don't even have time to level up beyond level 3. (i was playing lithoid) the admiral bonus alone might make it worth it for a fun way to steamroll others... but you NEED to get some other species in your empire rather early or you will fall behind fast.

[@briwanderz]

when i originally read up on the origin, i thought you could move your 100 clones around, so i planned to have 10 planets with 10 of my clones running each world, THAT would have been great for me.. but nope.

[@justinthompson6364]

I thought the downsides were pretty self-evident from the start. Big bonuses, with the limitation that the species basically comes in 5x twenty pop blocks, unless you want to micro your freshly grown pops onto different planets.

[@sowiwiody3681]

Wait, can't you just go around the 100 pops limit? Just send ascended clones to a planet, give them a planet with an ancient cloning site, and release the planet as vassal lol. Unless the limit is for an entire galaxy, and not just your empire.

[@Damo2690]

Vassals have no origin

[@xeanderman6688]

Watch those wrist rockets!

[@henrywilson2136]

When in the interface section, you can see the Lando system. LOL.

[@acadiano10]

I gave a few tries to this origin. The one that stuck was xenophile, egalitarian, spiritualist; going for psionic. Formed a trade federation with a friendly neighbor who brought his friend in so before 2300 we occupy a fourth of the galaxy. Unity gain by starting with high priesthood + mercantile + oligarchy government has been phenomenal. I did a technological enlightenment by 2220 so my vassal empire has been colonizing for me. Despite being a spiritualist empire, I went pretty hard into robots, found a relic world that I am rebuilding, and it's 2290 and wow cruising along, having a lot of fun. Finishing my third tradition tree and ready to take Mind over Matter. Your videos have really helped, thanks!

[@A_Spec]

You're welcome and it sounds like you're having fun.

[@acadiano10]

@@A_Spec yes, I just started playing last month. This game is going a lot better than my inner perfectionist clones who had fanatic purifier neighbors. That did not end well!

[@Alexencandar]

I am having a lot of fun with Death Cult and Clone Soldier Origin. Very easy to ensure there are no unemployed clones, with +48% unity after a few years :D

[@foxmcqwerty608]

the baol or whatever and their life seeding relic sounds delectable for catalytic processing

[@Aja-e5j]

Idillyc seeding and baol wasn't too bad You still get free pop every time you use the relict, also you can use the special building from thw civic to terraform worlds while the relict is still on cooldown Furthermore the relict works on ANY world while idyllic seeding only works on planets of the same type as your home world

[@valasarius]

The Horrors...the Nightmares of the Meaningless Expansions...they are finally over

[@Petrico94]

The branching paths is pretty cool, but sometimes it's fine to just have extra machine workers or start with a slave caste. Food into alloys seems too good but as long as you're organic it's not broken but just puts more pressure on your calorie stores, just gotta hotfix the rogue ai glitch and maybe consider a 0.9 modifier

[@robjohnson3095]

Instead of the 1 world challenge, now it's the 100 pop challenge!

[@clauvex7829]

FINALLY i can roleplay as the Grinner from Warframe.

[@MeredithLikely]

Heyyyy shouting out stephon!! I use his tech rush coloring mod to help me rush megastructures!

[@demon_xd_]

This getting out of hand! Now there are -two of them- three unskipabble ads!

[@arthriticgrandpa2875]

I smell pop growth

[@uiuiuiseraph]

By far the most enjoyable aspect of the patch. Love to play with clones. And when you start this origin... why would you ever make them fertile again? :D I would recommend rockbreakers for them, as you need to build alot of districts and structures. They grow like crazy in the beginning.

[@MegaDrunkViking]

to be fair to fertile you essentially get a massive headstart on pop count over other empires.

[@DamonNomad82]

I'm thinking of trying this, but I know that if I do, I'll have to have Weird Al's "I Think I'm a Clone Now" on loop while playing!

[@snapatchu]

"We've all run the simulations. They're tough, but they ain't invincible."

[@dragontemplar4561]

"Good Soldiers follow orders"

[@machionrender6409]

The Clone Armies are insane I glad I got free update to well build plant clone army to galactic senate

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

I used lithoids to counteract all the life expectancy debuffs from the clone origin. I went fanatic materialist, intelligent, natural engineers and technocracy to rush droids. After becoming ascended clones and stacking all 100 on the capital as researchers, I managed 1300-1400 tech by year 30. For a tall empire, you can become insane. Through on distinguished admiralty and psionic and your fleets become absolutely bonkers.

[@theycallmehope7707]

ALL OF US WERE BORN TO FIGHT!

[@christophebedouret9813]

Begun the clone war has...

[@aquicklad972]

Alright, took a bit of your advice, but I built it a bit different; I didn't watch any other video about it yet, but I made this civ: Ethics: fanatic xenophobe, militarist Traits: very strong, intelligent lithoid, i think i went with negative empire sprawl and something else (probably should've just gone with something that wouldn't increase the price of my tech) Civics: fanatic purifier clones, warrior culture (for the unity + naval cap, but looking at all the unity i get from genocide i'm rethinking my choice and considering swapping it to Distinguished Admiralty for +10% fire rate) Traditions (still WIP): Tech. Ascend, One Purpose, Becoming the Crisis (finished the first level in like a minute), - [STILL WORKING ON] - Mind over Matter, Transcendence, and... the rest i'll figure out after; prolly something something colossus... Not sure if Arcology Project would be worthwhile with the pops ...Also had a gaia world right next door, so that was kind of them to leave it there~

[@mlgsty8880]

I wish there was event chain to find out about your original creators tbh.

[@pr0duct1v1ty7]

I just think of the Grineer when this origin comes up, I wonder what build would closely mimic them. Moar daka

[@nonaed3662]

Clem?

[@Philip54622]

You taught me how to play it because I was worried about how to play this origin but know that I know you can have fertility thats makes it great. Thanks a lot I have subscribed and liked. And last question do you have to choose one gender or is it both gender no matter if you choose male or female

[@rtleitao78]

Loved the soylent green twist

[@tremor3258]

Does seem a very strong way with the tributaries. Interesting.

[@justinthompson6364]

It'll probably be even stronger when paradox gets around to making tall empires good again.

[@justinthompson6364]

@@Oakley999 Gigastructures places more of an emphasis on tech, but it doesn't really solve the underlying problem that bigger empires can get even more tech without penalties by using bureaucrats.

[@Shinzon23]

So do you have at least three named Brother dawn, Brother Day, and Brother Dusk after the Foundation TV series that just aired?

[@marcelocarneiro8410]

3:58 correlates xenophobic with catalytic processing... livestock goes brrrrrrr

[@A_Spec]

BRRRRRRRR

[@A_Spec]

But really though, not having to rely on either food or mineral districts is :chefskiss:

[@marcelocarneiro8410]

@@A_Spec yeah, for the next update i want a xeno processing center, it turns aliens into basic resources, because why produce when u can conquer?

[@assassinzakral7023]

Lithoid clones with the dread encampment can make the toughest defense army's ever, almost on par with fallen empires at the start of the game!

[@NightWhisper8462]

that 40% ruler resource is kind of deceptive because most of what the rulers can generate isn't affected by resource boosts (trade, amenities, stability), really only useful for a technocracy set up which generally wants to go down the route of synthetic ascension.

[@АнтонБородин-з8з]

+ for Kamino naming))) my choise too

[@bcajma12]

Definitely gonna go full force Mandalorian Clone Army on this.

[@subjectdelta7210]

Me plays the clone army, finished the main starter quests. Having fun. Immediately after got killed by a determined exterminator who spawned next to me

[@McTeerZor]

Stability has been the largest problem I've encountered so far. Had a 120 year game where my economy just collapsed due to a 10% lose of happiness......I was at war with fallen empire.....didn't go well lol

[@themilkman3880]

Can't wait to find a mod to remove the pop cap so I can become god

[@zinkaghost6490]

So mentioning picnics path, is there anyway to get around all your systems blowing up after so long?

[@rolypoly4920]

Your systems are blowing up? Are you making a Covenant with the End of the Cycle? Don't do that unless its year 2451.

[@zinkaghost6490]

@@rolypoly4920 yes and thanks!

[@ShamanMcLamie]

ASpec have you thought about going back and redoing some of your old mechanics video, especially for Leviathans. Some of them go back to the old tile system and are a tad out of date. Especially with new mechanics like raising leviathans back from the dead it might be worth revisiting some of them.

[@dmitriyk.2890]

I have not played since Lithoids came out. Trying to get back in shape now. Are there any changes with ship layouts or starting economy strategies? I want to play some radical xenofob.

[@Zathurious]

I picked option 1 and proceeded to be a normal empire with bio ascension.

[@AlphonseZukor]

Can you conquer a humanoid planet and force them to snu snu with your clones?

[@martinfunk4855]

am i am the only one that thinks it should be 10 clone vats with 10 pops each? would help a lot with colonisation other planets to have a small amoutn of elite there to watch over the slaves, livestock etc

[@thenecromorpher]

The inner OCD (and my wide playstyle in particular) in me dislikes this origin, simply because the inability to get more admin cap; quite the polar opposite from a gestalt machine/hive mind where you can build buildings to increase that. 50 admin cap was basically enough cap for me to colonize 1 other world and build outposts for like 5-15 other stars, with a gestalt empire you can build those buildings and each one adds like 10-33 cap (2 admin jobs iirc) and have like 300+ admin cap by like 10 years (iirc, been playing hoi4 lately and my crumby dual core Ryzen laptop only has a nvme ssd of 128 gb; you can probably game the "machine world" origin and min/max to have crazy admin cap, since with that origin your starting world has all slots unlocked).

[@DarlockAhe]

No gangbanging Slaanesh into existence. Disappointment intensifies.

[@elderashagall]

So, does that mean it’s not an option at all or are you saying it’s not feasible? If you can still take it I’d take that rout so I could get the nerve staple option and then I don’t have to deal with high crime and low happiness for the food source.

[@gigaflynn_]

ASpec, what is happening at around 10:00 in the video? You're on a Gaia world and have 0% habitability, how is that possible?

[@ldxtr9050]

I feel like keeping the raided pops as livestock just isnt worth it. a livestock pop will give me like 1-4 food per pop. if I keep the same pop as chattel slave on my fields, it will provide me with 8-12 food PLUS the slaves can take on all the jobs in the Worker strata, while my Clones take Specialist and Ruler jobs. am I missing something?

[@styleroler5816]

Livestock doesn't require any districts to work, and get a housing reduction so they can fit in on the planets you have more housing than workers. You basically just keep them around your planet and you don't need any agricultural jobs and can use your planets for other things. It's usually only good to keep one type of species as Livestock though, so you can use your other slaves to do more useful tasks.

[@Dontiva]

I love this origins but I must know if I have miss understood what the hell I was doing.

[@imanoobhunter]

Wait… I haven’t got a dig site on my home planet and I’m 80 years in.. is this something that’s random?

[@seanstoica6301]

Using the clones as fanatic purifiers. Just getting into my first war. It's not going to end well for the enemy and I'm only 5 years in.

[@heavenlybog5845]

FOR THE REPUBLIC

[@topwaifu2104]

Only in paradox game enslaving species and making them livestock for the rest of their existence to process them into minerals can be meta.

[@reesemccarthy505]

The clone has died, long live the clones

[@vvbr2372]

They can be a big problematic if you don't know how to play them Me not knowing shit having conquered half the medium size galaxy by year 2300: yea early game was a bit of a rush for minerals and empire sprawl was a pain to deal with other then that this origin is op Edit: not sure why but I couldn't build any robot pop for the first 30 years despite having the building and clones working in them

[@inkognitonoori9486]

You cant, as you can only assemble only robot or organics, not both

[@vvbr2372]

@@inkognitonoori9486 oh thanks for the info!

[@inkognitonoori9486]

@@vvbr2372 Yeah, a patch changed this a few updates back because everyone was rushing robots early game, not that isnt viable anymore....

[@vvbr2372]

@@inkognitonoori9486 I'll just conquer some primitives and build robots there then

[@chattychatotchannel]

My clone army got the Baol precursor hurrah

[@WYKlaure]

Clone ascendant is the only way. If you pick the other one you can no longer have a 9 year old leading your navies to war.

[@constantin1483]

Clone army origin is like 300 Spartans of Space!

[@linkieloos]

Made a human clone army empire: The Peacekeepers (Dictatorial, fanatic militarist and spiritualist with philosopher king and distinguished admiralty). Cloned from humans considered the best of the best by an unknown alien race (that the Peacekeepers worshipped). They were physically weak and lacked a strong military, so they stuck to espoinage and diplomacy and let the humans do the fighting. The alien race eventually abandoned the cloning vats on the world now known as Pax after they determined that the clones were "imperfect" due to fears the army could turn on them. Now they are long gone, and the Peacekeepers are left carving out chunks of the galaxy from primitive races and smaller opposing empires. Peacekeeper "diplomacy" is conducted at the muzzle of a gun.

[@TheGuardianofAzarath]

Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! Sontar Ha! The mantra of the greatest clone warriors in existence, depending on who you ask :P

[@HerrKlausTrophobie]

I tried it out, but with the need if a Clone Tank to SUSTAIN the pops you got, you can only sustain 20 x 5 pops. How do you grow over the Limit, please tell me

[@figuringkey9417]

FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!

[@El_Presidente_5337]

Can I enslave my own pops with the 40% thinhgy and sell them?

[@A_Spec]

Time to find out

[@A_Spec]

I checked, no

[@horizonhunterX]

Sontarian is actually an army race from dr who too!

[@EstrellaViajeViajero]

Why was the Gaia world 0% habitability? That seems to negate most of the extra benefits of the world.

[@A_Spec]

This was a bug that was fixed in yesterday's patch.

[@MysteriousStranger116]

Not sure what mods I have that do this but I haven’t been able to use this origin since When I try this I don’t get the 2 clone vats at the start. As a result by the time I get both up and running I’ve lost 4-6 pops, which really hurts at the beginning of the game. Got to remove some mods I guess.

[@arounor]

I have question the new plantiods is broke but you can have alloy ships as a devouring swarm and Crisis but. How do I end being declared galatic crisis 120 years in game i don't want to go through rest of game just being me. i own half the galaxy. And I can easily wipe out the rest. I could take on a fallen at this point