Astarion's Nightmare/Bite Reactions

[@justbird5624]

Im sorry but Gale yelling at him like he's a cat with something they shouldn't have in their mouth- I love that!

[@lightpoint4426]

'Spit that out, right now!' xD

[@BriarPatchNyra]

He does have Tara after all!

[@justbird5624]

@@BriarPatchNyra He's a very disappointed Cat dad when it comes to our Tav & Vampire Spawn companion.

[@laslunas2561]

" No! You dont plan on bringing that into the house, are you? Spit it out!"

[@HappyBirddi]

LOL it's so funny XDXDXDXD

[@BaeCat872]

So THIS is what leads to the bite from his perspective god this game is so good

[@whiteraven562]

"For the first time in centuries you feel...happy." Someone get this poor man a hug T-T

[@Heroann]

You can. Search for Araj in the moonrise tower, have him by your side and respect his decision. He will talk to you in the camp about it. You will get the option to hug him

[@whiteraven562]

@@Heroann I know. but he needs more hugs. all of the hugs

[@Heroann]

@@whiteraven562 yes, if he wants them. Also, Karlach needs some, and gale, and wyll... everyone actually

[@Heroann]

​@Broskisnowski If you think Astarion is evil than you A) did not play his quest or B) Let him end his quest in the "bad" way. Astarion is not evil, just broken.

[@whiteraven562]

@Broskisnowski and?

[@ashleye.5423]

Lae'zel straight up said "I know I'm a snack but NOT FOR YOU TO EAT" Straight up girl boss behavior - love her

[@AllisonFischer]

And that she’s like, try that again and I’ll cut off your d**k 😂 (which, oh no what a loss for Faerûn)

[@bearhugzfam649]

NGL I hate Lae'zel but that bit killed me lol

[@feyefall4855]

Man, thinking about how hard it is to actually fail this as Astarion, Tav really did "just get lucky."

[@duobrown]

I didn't count the amount of times I had to reload to fail some of the skill checks >.

[@xFoxOne]

I really love that shadowheart acknowledgement that they’re both elves and don’t dream (even though she’s half-elf) they go into a meditative state. You even see Astarion’s meditating. Look at his hands when he’s laying down

[@scarletrose2880]

It's also funny that she refers to herself as an elf because she lae'zel calls her an elf she corrects her.

[@veronicashields4405]

I didn’t know that bit of lore about elves, so that surprised me when she said it. I assumed he was meditating because he was a vampire.

[@xFoxOne]

@@veronicashields4405 yeah it’s really cool! In the players handbook for DND if you look at the elven race and the half elf race. It’ll tell you that you don’t sleep but enter a meditative state.

[@Littlepup93]

@@veronicashields4405 It's called Reverie, it takes half the time as sleep (4 hours instead of 8), and that has always cracked me up about this game. Playing my Drow Durge, I was amused that for plot related reasons, he or Astarion would actually sleep as the plot demands. Did some further research into it and apparently elves may sleep instead of meditating if they're in particularly rough shape, such as being ill or badly wounded. Drow also apparently don't mediate as often as other elves either, which I found interesting.

[@edaria5414]

But he was sleeping? He saw nightmare?

[@nicsnort]

This moment happens on the first night when you play Astarion. As Astarion can choose to break Cazador's final rule or attack an animal. If you play as not-Astarion you find a drained boar after the first or second night - which means Astarion chose not to feed on anyone until he is "desperate." I think it makes it all the more heartbreaking, canonically (when left to his own choices not the players) Astarion is too afraid to risk breaking Cazador's rule willingly until he is forced to.

[@lunaryune]

Do you get a lot of these scenes when playing him? Or just this once? I'm wondering if it's worth playing an OG character in my next run...

[@nicsnort]

I am pretty sure it is just the one dream scene. I think all the origin characters have their own sort of dream or event the first night you sleep.@@lunaryune

[@miked8064]

With Shadowheart you get one depending on your choices in Act 2. I don't actually remember Wyll getting one though, but he gets the whole patron dynamic.

[@metronial2047]

Really? He literally fed on me on the first long rest.

[@nicsnort]

You probably waited too long I guess? I've never heard of it happening that early. Because there is usually the scene of him sneaking out of camp on the first long rest if you play not-Astarion and then later you find a boar past the grove. @@metronial2047

[@BriarPatchNyra]

I wish more people were aware of the nightmare. They think he just lost control or was being an idiot. I always found it surprising he did something so reckless. The nightmare adds context.

[@veronicashields4405]

He’s also desperate. If you rest between quests long enough in the non-origin story, you’ll find drained animals. He just either gets unlucky one night or the curiosity gets to be too much.

[@eldaroses.g.r.7945]

I thought he was just starving so he went for the nearest possible food. Which was enough reason to have compassion. The nightmare… poor baby.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Given that he was being forced to feed on dead rats and vermin, Cazador probably kept him mostly half starvef

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

@@rosesweetcharlotteI have not met this cazador yet, but I am loving the build up

[@exantiuse497]

Vampires in DnD setting don't require humanoid blood, they can survive on animal blood indefinitely. It's not as "tasty" or empowering as humanoid blood, but they won't starve from it. Case in point, Astarion who is implied to never had drunk blood of sentient creatures in his 200 years of unlife. He didn't do it out of desperation or hunger like some say, he literally just wanted to know what it's like

[@catsidhesilvie]

"We're elves, we don't dream" made me snort. So flustered by getting caught that he forgets what race he is talking to, haha. Though she is half-elf, so maybe that is fair.

[@WoozyGod]

Omg, it gives even more depth to Astarion. His first bite for a century - his rebellion against his master and taste of bloody freedom. With custom character, I thought it was his routine. Yes, he said he drinks the blood of animals, but still

[@feyefall4855]

You can actually detect his thoughts on bite night to reveal the truth as Tav as well, I believe.

[@MQMads134]

He tells you later that you were his first bite beyond rats and bugs and animals. At least maybe its just the romance path that does?

[@jexxer]

From the sound of it, it's his first time biting a humanoid _ever._

[@mauve_rainbow]

@@MQMads134 No he also tells you that when you don't romance him. He could be lying during that scene abt how he only feeds on animals, but later, he mentions several times how he could only feed on rats (my approval with him was high so I don't think he was lying). It *was* his first time tasting humanïd blood

[@norelle28]

His entire dynamic with Gale cracks me up so much. That's just the typical cat owner and a very unruly cat who try to one up another until the day they're either both worse or end up on the couch cuddling for hours in mutual trust and happiness.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

I want to romance Gale as Astarion so bad now just from that scene. He was so caring toward Astarion, even with the more vicious 'lost control bite', telling him to spit it out. That's so cute. No way Astarion wouldn't want him after being treated with such unexpected care under such circumstances. So ironic since when you don't play as Astarion, Astarion can be so catty toward Gale and they get those sibling rivalry vibes going instead. lol I never would have paired them up till I saw this scene.

[@CrazyKungfuGirl]

First time I've seen someone get bit by a vampire and then try to warn him the blood is inedible 😂

[@duobrown]

If you bite him in the overworld it gives you toxic damage

[@KenanTheFab]

@@duobrown Biting Karlach sets you on fire lmao.

[@eldaroses.g.r.7945]

Astarion: Bro, I’m hungry. Gale: Bro, I’m literally poisonous.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Honestly wins Gale a lot of approval points from me that he was so compassionate and caring toward Astarion in that moment.

[@NovaStella_]

I wonder if any of the other party members let Astarion feed from them willingly. If not, I think it's very interesting how Tav is the only one who will let Astarion bite them :D

[@damobeck1]

Tav is willing to bang a mindflayer, she is a super freak.

[@osufan8278]

everybody except Gale and Karlach could be willing to be bitten if you play them as origins characters

[@NDPersonalChannel]

Would Astarion even bite Karlach if he will burn just touching her though

[@NovaStella_]

I mean, when you play Astarion you have control over the buttons you press. But I think that would just depend on the circumstances. @@NDPersonalChannel

[@MerlinMonroe9]

if I recall correctly, romanced Astarion has banter with Gale where Gale offers his blood but Astarion says its not necessary since he has someone sweeter to nibble on

[@hduece1496]

"Spit that out if you know whats good for you" is honestly so funny

[@adelicious3925]

It's unsettling to not hear astarion's sassy voice 😂

[@ouchiedumpling2552]

I wish when playing as an origin character, that the options you pick would be voiced as well

[@Cyrillius1]

Lae'zel takes it pretty calmly, honestly - I was expecting you to have to fight her off like the stake option

[@In_the_Music_Web]

I thought the same thing! I thought she wouldn't hesitate to pull out a stake and just stab the vampire boi

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

I think she's too pragmatic not to see him as a useful ally. Probably also attracted to him. People think she just wants to kill everyone for some reason.

[@roguejester4986]

It's always sad seeing his nightmares.

[@felicetteoo1007]

Gale is a cat dad. You can't convince me otherwise

[@Violet_dude]

I mean Tara exists

[@Safiyahalishah]

@@Violet_dude LOL in no way is Gale her dad though. And she's not a cat, how dare you

[@Violet_dude]

@@Safiyahalishah it's just a common joke make in the Fandom lol

[@silence-yt4if]

Astarion is the reason why i want this game

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

He has some of the funniest dialogue in the entire game.

[@Heroann]

Astarion is the reason I almost have 200 hours already

[@drawnsequence]

Yeah, I wasn't interested until I started seeing Astarion videos everywhere.

[@Heroann]

@@drawnsequence I wasnt interested in the beginning either... than a friend met Astarion who held a knife to her throat. I was like: "Oh? Take him into your party!" She: "No, I will kill him, he just tried to kill me" Me: "Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@outrider2177]

Apart from the playable character side of view lorewhise I love about this feature how it shows how much voice and speech shapes a personality. Seeing Astarion when you chose him for your campaign is a whole other character than having Tav and interacting with him just because you have like 10% of his voicelines and speech in it.

[@giagraham]

“Spit that out if you know what’s good for you!” 😂

[@mulqueen2023]

The only reason I've held off an Origin Astar is because I'd miss Neils voice so damn much, it wouldn't feel like Astarion with his sweet, sappy, snark

[@jexxer]

I started my first playthrough with him because I wanted the more in-depth first-person perspective of his story, but switched to a Tav run halfway through Act 1 because I realized I was barely getting a _fraction_ of Neil's work with Astarion as the woefully silent protagonist.

[@tumainivt]

"SPIT THAT OUT IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!" GALE PLZ

[@tyto5146]

Astarian smiling unnerves me so much, like hes not meant to do anything more than a smirk, its unnatural

[@justsomegothgirl]

It's actually pretty nice to see the other side of this 😂 No wonder he wanted to snack on my character

[@saracolax]

wow it is... very interesting to see his perspective

[@Heroann]

Fuck, I really need to play as some of the origin characters, dont I?

[@randomclod385]

omg i want the custom or dark urge to be a vampire, I want to pay a vampire without losing out on astarions quips

[@celticbear714]

If you romance Astarion, after the confrontation with Cazador, he can turn you into a vampire if you let Astarion steal Cazador's power

[@randomclod385]

ye but I don't get cool cutscenes of being a vampire@@celticbear714

[@merisav4171]

@@celticbear714 into spawn, not vampire

[@FelitusCatus]

​@@merisav4171 or into vampire, if you choose right answers )

[@LGrian]

@@FelitusCatusyou got him to let you drink his blood in game? Don’t think so. Ascended Astarion loses his soul. His interest in you at that point is at best sentimental. He has no reason to give up his power over you and create a competitor (as he foreshadow when Tav asks how one becomes a vampire)

[@imahumanperson361]

Honestly and sincerely surprised Lae’zel didn’t *immediately* try to gut him-

[@alinarendon2099]

With a full belly and a singing heart😭❤️

[@regisatlas]

my heart breaks for him so much :')

[@Aurilndia]

For the first time in centuries he is feeling happy... Well, that make me feel even better let him drink my Tav´s blood. :D

[@ciaranmcguinness8900]

Ok that was honestly a big mistake "We're Elves we don't dream" Shadowheart is a Half-Elf who do sleep and dream like normal people and must rest for 8 hours, Astarion is a full on high Elf who don't dream and don't sleep, instead entering a meditative trance for only 4 hours, thats why his hands are splayed out like that , hes in a trance, though technically he doesn't even need to do that as he is a Vampire

[@realfatemaster]

In DnD lore they actually do dream, they just don't sleep.

[@nellialperovich4522]

Vampires do need sleep

[@glimbusthetot3843]

I believe that she believed she was an elf due to her amnesia thing

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Yeah, but Shadowheart is also a priestess of Shar and a manipulator and liar in her own right. It's not surprising for her to turn that on him even if it's not true for her. Also, there was a dialogue line about the tadpoles having something to do with it... but I think that's a leftover from when they planned to have all the characters have nightmares if they use their tadpoles too much. Wish they left that in, tbh

[@spirsom8750]

And if you romance a companion as Astarion, can they let you drink their blood. Can you turn your lover to a vampire?

[@neetidols]

Only on the bad romance ending unfortunately

[@miss.dannitiger]

My poor baby 😢😢😭💔💔💔 somebody hug and kiss him This game is amazing 😣😭

[@amy-avnas]

I figured it probably had to do with his fear toward his tormentor that drove him to feed on my character in the game. Peoples blood would make sense to make a vampire or vampire spawn stronger compared to animal blood. "He was free in a sense from his Master, able to go where he could not, but he was still bound to his master as long aa his masters undead heart still beat. Strength then was what he'd need, get stronger, till he could ripe the heart from his Masters chest."...😏

[@kendelle4216]

Pasty ghoul lmao

[@duobrown]

I mean... by definition it's a factual statement XD

[@dariasavchenko4889]

xDDD i bit Gales ones by accident during combat xDD and his reaction was the same like bleh wtfs is this bile :D

[@SIMPLExEMOTION]

If you choose to not drink their blood and wait to tell the truth, is it possible to drink the blood later with someone's agreement ?

[@ArrowsOfAthena]

Oh my god that nightmare scene broke my heart. 😭

[@Ludvik789]

How on earth didn't lae Zel eat you before you got a word in????

[@shirosenpie6065]

after 5 playthroughs made me realise: why are the others still sleep peacefully despite them making alot of noise 😂 not even a single dialogue about it on the next morning too

[@johnnybravous]

Gale literally says it like you're a child chewing on plastic. " no! wrong! >:( "

[@mzamnesia7190]

is this if you play as him?

[@duobrown]

It is indeed!

[@pbandslay9540]

I played him and the cutscene didn’t happen, which probably happened because I used his bite ability just after starting the game.

[@mzamnesia7190]

haha yeah i did my Astarion playthrough this weekend and realized you can p much out yourself at any time or keep it a secret @@pbandslay9540

[@duobrown]

@@pbandslay9540 Yeah, you miss a few scenes if you reveal your vampirism too early. The most anti-climactic is if you bite mid-fight.

[@angelstarlight6030]

I really should do an origin playthrough, other than the dark urge

[@avengance10]

What's the name of the track playing through most of this? 3:00 in particular sounds really cool

[@youroverlordruler]

Finally found it! Sounds like a variation of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7RYnWOrLuki9ksi=IdxIVS6whJphFZGE

[@xiimooniixmoon2988]

Omg he needs a hug

[@leliaarmijos9503]

Can someone please explain why Gale's blood is like that???

[@llllila]

If instead of biting him you tell him, he'll be like "i knew it!!" so i think he suspects and he's trying to repel astarion

[@llllila]

But it is could also be his orb

[@Penamesolen]

He has a condition that affects, among other things, his blood, that is not related to the tadpole.

[@mrjones2721]

Short version: His personal plot. Slightly less short version: Wizards are dumbasses. Gale is (was) a powerful wizard. Gale is a powerful dumbass. Long version: [Insert Act 1 here]

[@timetochronicle]

SPOILER The orb in Gale's body is the Karsite orb. Basically put, pure magic is in Gale's blood, a reason why it tastes so bad.

[@emilolofsson5592]

This scene seem to be missable if you reveal you are a vampire either through using the bite skill on anything, being outed by the vampire hunter, and/or confessing to any companion. Tested this with a full party patch 5. Wyll can be bitten and becomes a bit angry if you were caught. Karlach however Astarion simply refuses to approach/bite since he knows her fiery blood. Karlach approach scene seemed a bit bugged it showed approaching Shadowheart instead. If you give in to the hunger and kill someone with Astarion they can't be revived. The party did only comment on the dead companion. Confessing you're a vampire afterwards to anyone doesn't lead to a confrontation about you killing said character.

[@SpamUannoying]

Wait what? Why can Tav be revived if he kill her but not the others :(

[@emilolofsson5592]

​​@@SpamUannoyingYup that's right. However you can intentionally fail the bite/get caught by having medium armor beforehand that has disadvantage to dexterity stealth rolls.

[@SpamUannoying]

@@emilolofsson5592 not bad, there's that at least

[@ScaryBoomBoomGun]

I need to roll up another character and start over, letting him bite me. Lol!

[@jadeansell]

I never got this scene unfortunately, i think its because i accidentally bit someone in a fight almost immediately and shadowheart called it out.

[@duobrown]

Yeah..z that’ll do it

[@avaricz9553]

How many nightmares/special scenes has Astarion in his playtrough?

[@ena_ina]

a couple but most are in act 1

[@llllila]

Only two

[@Spaceplane_b-lovely]

I never got this nightmare scene playing his origin. Is there something that triggers it?

[@Auldus]

If you had 3 choices for a midnight snack. Why the hell would you willingly choose Lae'zel? lmao.

[@duobrown]

She’s spicy

[@solahaze8948]

All your companions so mean T-T "Hey, I was tormented for years and i just wanted to know if i could actually drink blood" "I dont fucking care!"

[@fentina]

If I woke up to a rando I'd known for a few days sucking my blood, I also wouldn't particularly care about his sobstory, even if it was true If anything they're super nice by still following him around and not killing him

[@solahaze8948]

@@fentina Lol, I'm just laughing at how tav is like the ONLY one who doesn't immediately hate you. Granted, tav catches you before you can bite them.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Gale was actually very sweet. Him yelling at him to spit it out is because it would poison Astarion.

[@_l4d2_alexmiller94]

Ahahaha, I love Gale..from the whole team.. I chose him to bite :D

[@duobrown]

He wasn’t kidding when he said he tasted awful

[@Vegeta241]

So nothing for Wyll or Karlach? Are you forced to get this scene before they join?

[@duobrown]

You get it the first time you camp, and I didn't get it after rushing to get Wyll before I camped

[@CowboyKing]

Yes, you can bite Wyll and if you're very brave you can try to bite Karlach, too.

[@anonthe-third2367]

​@@duobrowni didn't get it the first time I camped 😢

[@astaricn]

Someone need to give him a guy, i can’t see him like that😭

[@hollywu7768]

Why is he happy for hurting his allies? Because he is not ungry?

[@childesinthev.761]

It was all about proving to himself he could disobey Cazador (which in ordinary circumstances he'd be more or less unable to do in meaningful ways due to the supernatural influence his master had on him), and at this point in the game he isn't necessarily a very moral person, or yet attached to his companions.

[@hollywu7768]

@@childesinthev.761 thank you for the explanation!

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Also, there's a hierarchy in terms of the power in the blood... The blood of higher thinking humanoids is more powerful and was always denied to the spawn for that reason, and he would also restrict them to vermin as punishment, which sounds like it was pretty much always that way for Astarion. He has a dialogue when you aren't playing as him that you can get where he asks permission to drink from you, and explains that he feels week and his mind hazy because the situation has led to him needing more than he's normally allowed. Once you let him drink from you he gets a special buff and he describes how clear headed and strong he feels, as though he was feeling well for the first time in memory.

[@angelstarlight6030]

He is an elf,... Why is he dreaming? Plus thou art mine forever to hug To love to protect 😅 Cazador can eff off and leave my Astarion alone 😅👀😎

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

There is a chance that it's the tadpoles. Or him being a vampire still tied telepathically to Cazador. Or just pure trauma

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Tadpole fuckery or perhaps even some ptsd type mental breakdown. His situation as an escaped spawn is pretty unprecedented.

[@junehollybell5977]

her buying the dream excuse literally makes me think her brain is alittle smooth

[@duobrown]

You would think wisdom is her dump stat

[@irenesama6700]

Why did Shadowheart say “Dream? but we’re elves we don’t dream like others do.” if she’s talking about “trance” why would she not dream like the others at all. After all she is not an elf but a half-elf. Am I missing something here?

[@bellaennabaratheon8619]

how do yall get these cutscenes?

[@Powered1Buttercup]

From what I’m getting you have to pick them instead of the character you can customize?

[@myrrhs01]

Yeah. This is the camp scene if you are playing as Astarion instead of Tav.@@Powered1Buttercup

[@okamiseele8614]

Wait, how do you get this cutscene?! I must know!

[@mase5995]

This is if you play Astarion’s origin

[@narutogirl-sc2xh]

What does she mean "elves don't dream like others do"?

[@duobrown]

In Dungeons and Dragons elves don't dream

[@nightlyre198]

D&D elves don’t sleep. They fall into a state of meditation called reverie where they relive memories from their very long lives, so they don’t technically dream.

[@MaknaeUlzzang]

How does this trigger?

[@WandaMsMentalStatus]

how do you get the nightmare cutscene?

[@duobrown]

Do a long rest early in the game, I don’t know the exact cutoff but definitely before you reach the grove

[@WandaMsMentalStatus]

@@duobrown is it with having companions in camp or none?

[@rainbowcoffeequeen8745]

is this if you play the game as astarion?

[@OOKIE_DOOKIE]

Yep

[@abimullen9142]

How do you get this?

[@duobrown]

You have to play as Astarion

[@abimullen9142]

​@@duobrownI am right now just wondering when in the act it triggers

[@duobrown]

I received it on my first night's sleep. I did it after completing the tomb where you find Withers@@abimullen9142

[@abimullen9142]

​@@duobrownstrange I'm at the grove and slept twice now maybe it's random