ATF director weighs in on new rule that ends "gun show loophole"

The Biden administration unveiled a new federal rule Thursday to expand background checks for gun purchases. Steven Dettelbach, director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, joins CBS News to discuss the new policy.
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[@jimplante7699]

Will this include ATFs running weapons across the Mexican border to the Cartel. I doubt it!

[@LonSheldon-bv4hr]

No it doesn't, fast and furriest or cast away. Remember officer Terry and how this illegal guns ended up in foreign adversary countries under barry sotoro.

[@rogerjensen5277]

How about the all the weapons given to Ukraine that they have sold to the cartels? How many of those are already in the hands of terrorists and illegal alien criminals here in the US thanks to Biden's open border policies?

[@markwhite6782]

Please can we act like adults here on this post? At least we know the man called the "Merchant of Death" Viktor Bout who has pedaled millions of illegal machine guns to our adversaries is behind bars........Well until Biden had him released for some LGBTQ votes and a swap of America hating Brittney Grinner!

[@noneshere]

Top Secret Case : Fast And Furious

[@jerrypeal653]

And then trying to sue manufacturers for those guns they ran across

[@BlackoutPatriot]

This is the same guy who let taliban have billions in military weapons for FREE

[@AppalachianPatriot]

No background checks on the soldiers getting weapons in Ukraine or Israel.

[@jerrypeal653]

And who ran guns across the border to arm the cartels

[@tristenklein5940]

Exactly! FJB is the world’s largest illegal firearms trafficker with his open border policies allowing illegal arms traffickers and dealers to freely cross the borders both ways and remember he also released the Russian who was the 2nd largest illegal firearms trafficker in the world for a woman basketball player who broke drug laws in Russia. FJB

[@Jason_556]

@@tristenklein5940print and buy what ever you want! FJB!!! Nothing is off limits!

[@TheMjlover420]

Private sales person to person is what they’re after.

[@eric2500]

So they both go in and register the sale -no more sales to violent and twitchy people!

[@eric2500]

Good.

[@andreirachko]

GOOD

[@kevinnugent223]

​@eric2500 look up gun show loop hole crime. It amounts to nothing , won't stop any gang violence type crime .

[@floridagunrat1625]

Good for nothing!! This won't stop Frostie and Bobo from buying guns illegally on the street! It just infringes on the rights of the law-abiding citizens.

[@SantanaBinks]

You’ll never stop private sales. There is no such thing as the gun show loophole. Almost every gun show has been doing background checks on site for the last 20 years. Going after private sales is straight up unconstitutional and will not be enforced by free states

[@davidr1676]

Try 30 years

[@allemander]

No such thing as free states. It’s a total oxymoron.

[@troyrichardson8787]

Thank you.

[@commentfailedtopost]

​@allemander Freeish states.

[@chein33]

100% sir

[@Aireck174]

The only people who believe this stuff are people who never went to a gun show.

[@ScottWaa]

Unlicensed seller. You mean a private citizen. The ATF writes vague rules, nothing is specific. This interview is filled with lies.

[@tristenklein5940]

Where in the Constitution does it state “Rules” created by illegitimate bureaucrats and bureaucracies are a LAW? NO WHERE therefore “Rules” are illegitimate and meaningless end of story! Only Congress can create Laws NOT illegitimate bureaucrats and bureaucracies!

[@SantanaBinks]

Repeal the NFA

[@mjt7135]

"Mr Director" laughable. What a tyrant!!!

[@bakedfrenchtoast5689]

The ATF Director is a clown.

[@LethalMayo]

There never was a gun show loophole. They always do background checks. You dont call a right a loophole because you havent thought about infringing on it yet.

[@RaggedyHobo]

Well cool, then I guess it doesn’t matter. Good to know.

[@BloodySoup74]

​@@RaggedyHoboLooks like thats the same comment you've been regurgitating for a bit.

[@RaggedyHobo]

@@BloodySoup74 It is. I’ve asked it 4 or 5 times now. No answer. I seriously don’t get it. Why does it matter if it’s already a law? I don’t know what the big deal is.

[@randyjohnston3985]

@@RaggedyHobobecause the ATF does not have constitutional authority to make any rules or laws. That’s why all gun issues matter

[@BloodySoup74]

@@RaggedyHobo The big deal is the law was already enacted on dealers. But a private citizen selling to other citizens is not illegal. The new law wants the private citizen to make it illegal to sell to other private citizens. That's government over reach and against the constitution.

[@Bullchiton]

for a law enforcement agent he dont even know it is a rule or law

[@stegmonjurvinweirdt1834]

"We BELIEVE this is legal" ?? Who is this clown?

[@SuperOdyss]

The "gun show loophole" is because the federal constitution does not allow the federal government to regulate intra-state commerce. If the gun is not being sold across state lines, federal law is not relevant.

[@raymondsaucier4433]

Does anyone actually realize there is no “gun show loopholes “ If you go to a gun show to buy a gun you still must fill out the federal form. If you are a criminal buying a gun out of someone’s trunk then the seller is also a criminal , nothing to do with gun shows.

[@SantanaBinks]

This is so hard for them to understand simply because they don’t care to do their research. They’re more in favor of appearing as if they actually care, virtue signaling. The constitution may as well be written in a language from mars at this point because the amount of people who just can’t comprehend it, is what’s going to destroy this country. They’ll get away with passing unconstitutional laws because no one understands the constitution anymore.

[@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname]

There are a lot of gullible people out there that believe everything they are told

[@RaggedyHobo]

That’s good then. I guess it doesn’t matter so we can just move on to other news.

[@timothyavendt677]

​@@RaggedyHobo How about this new, unfair rule that has the bite and force ofvan actual law?

[@RaggedyHobo]

@@timothyavendt677 Well if you don’t like it and it makes you spout more of that hilarious whining lies you folks make up. I’m all for it.

[@ProspectorJohn101]

Wow a gun black market just happened not like its been around since the 1700's..

[@noneshere]

Yup, France gave George Washington lots of weapons to take on the British with.

[@gangoffour6690]

There is no Loophole

[@jacknifedbl]

Ehh they already do background checks at gun shows lmao

[@tristenklein5940]

Exactly! More illegitimate rules being created in a form of a law, illegitimate bureaucracies and bureaucrats cannot make laws only Congress can! Therefore so called Rules posing as a Law are illegitimate null and void end of story!

[@SantanaBinks]

Shhhh, this makes the unintelligent feel better

[@RaggedyHobo]

Then I guess these folks having hissy fits about it are just over reacting. Because, like you said, they already have it. I wonder why these people are so unreasonable and unhinged.

[@tristenklein5940]

@@RaggedyHobo because the illegitimate fraudulent rule is being used as a backdoor way to stop and track gun sales and for a registered database to be used by government for illegal and unconstitutional purchases!

[@Delimon007]

@@RaggedyHobo It's almost like they are targeting private citizens with this law or something and trying to make them have to have a license which is ILLEGAL according to our own god damn constitution you traitor!

[@onestarabove7027]

The so called law discriminates against people who have been in jail and have pardons for their felonies. My rights are violated because when my right to vote is restored then my right to own a gun should be restored under the same provision. Many people were talked into white collar crimes and have done their time. Someone who was convicted of non violent crimes decades ago and have a pardon should not be penalized when it comes to a gun purchase. I came within five seconds of losing my life while walking my dog. The government does not have the right to deny me the ability to defend myself against a killer. I’m retired and I do not know three upstanding citizens who will write a letter of recommendation for me to purchase a gun. And why should I have to do that for a forty year old bad check charge that was pardoned. You mean to tell me that I cannot protect my self from a hulking big monster of a man who tried to grab me while I was minding my own business walking my dog?

[@thatsharshman.8544]

How many guns are involved in school shooting was bought at a gun show? 00

[@sethalexander3164]

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” - Abraham Lincoln, First Republican President

[@gerardfitzpatrick3031]

Each and every one of the corrupt politicians will be held accountable for another infringement on Citizens Constitutional rights.

[@timpreisser5462]

sadly not until we the citizens revolt against it with the constitutionally allowed provision.

[@FlatEarthSovereign]

Governments shall not arbitrarily infringe on the basic right of the individual to acquire, possess and freely transfer property, and shall protect private property rights as referred to in the 5th and 14th Amendments of the United States Constitution. ...We need to abolish the ATF and the registering of all firearms and bring these ATF agents to justice. The ATF is not even government. Its a private for profit corporation and some may even say they are a domestic terrorist organization.

[@prdubi]

No such thing as gun show loophole. It just like a feel good word salad to say to play with your tongue.

[@RaggedyHobo]

Well then I guess you can move on to real issues. This being much ado about nothing.

[@noneshere]

The government wants Constitutionally Illegal registration on all gun sales but all guns don't have serial numbers . Dracos are now being printed in plastic as well as 40mm grenade launchers. Government hates society being able to whittle it's own stuff up.

[@timothyavendt677]

​@RaggedyHobo No, we were not playing that game. They have weaponized the ATF From the first day of this administration, and that makes this an unconstitutional and important issue. That makes it important news.

[@Leisurelee53]

There is no "gun show loophole" This has to be one of the longest standing myths around the issue.

[@RaggedyHobo]

Then I guess it’s just silly that all these folks are up in arms about it. Isn’t it?

[@Leisurelee53]

@RaggedyHobo at best it is silly, at worst it is malicious

[@RaggedyHobo]

@@Leisurelee53 I see

[@transmech]

If you did some real journalism you would know this is unconstitutional. Quit being shills

[@donald2665]

There is very little real "Journalism" in the USA - I am sure that you have noticed that. Has not been for decades. The propaganda Organs of the Authoritarian Administrative State are the shills actually - and their messages are anti-2A, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-American, and anti-Freedom.

[@UnknownMoses]

The ATF needs to be dissolved.

[@fortressgothika]

Legislation has to pass through the House of Congress. I believe I would absolutely ignore any rule some government agency made up that did not actually have legislation behind it. It's not a law.

[@jamiefranklin6856]

Wow you guys aren’t worried about saving lives when it’s innocent babies

[@Robert-gb7ex]

What's your stance on abortion ?

[@floridagunrat1625]

What's your point?

[@Delimon007]

@@floridagunrat1625 I dunno, maybe far more babies dying by abortion than people dying in so called "mass shootings" 😂 FYI, abortion is racist and mostly affects minorities.

[@badtolz2122]

What "gun show loophole"? They already have to run background checks by law. I'm confused.

[@RighteousJ]

"Rules" are not laws.

[@e.vasquez9946]

Blah blah blah

[@rogerjensen5277]

Don't you mean Bah, Bah, Bah, you sheeple!

[@gregwheelus3257]

How many guns did atf loose . And a rule is not a law

[@ginjjiigok364]

same dude is selling weapons across the planet., total clown

[@tristenklein5940]

Remember FJB gave the Taliban $83 billion of firearms and military equipment! Who is a threat to the people? this illegitimate regime!

[@donstaples4812]

Our VFW has gun "shows" several times a year. It's all cash and carry, not even a name exchange.

[@noneshere]

Don't matter, background checks don't predict a persons future and the words " felon " and " domestic violence " is nowhere in The Constitution or the Bill of Rights. US government is a possible future enemy and the 2nd amendment provides us with the written right to defend ourselves against such enemies .

[@jonathanvandagriff7515]

Unconstitutional

[@johnm9263]

wrong, it won't save lives because the problem is not with people who are following the law... so this won't change anything

[@HairyBottom]

Can’t end something that doesn’t exist.

[@davidr1676]

Who listens to CBS interviewing Howdy Doody

[@AdL629]

This is like the time they shut down the drug show loophole, and now we don't have any more illegal drugs on the street or "crime drugs" as they're called.

[@geekmeee]

There is a reason we are the number arms dealer in the world.

[@onliiine1]

You turn guy just by uttering that phrase

[@johnlewis3445]

So collector guns that i have bought over the years that have quadrupled in value I have to sell at original price

[@user-zj2zx9ib4d]

Not a real director. Cause he doesn't even know what the law is let alone know what the parts to a gun

[@dannyboyd1299]

If they are unlicensed they aren't dealer's

[@myplaylist7007]

Its time to close the border joe.

[@stuffwithkids7127]

They forgot that making something untraceable "illegal" changes nothing.

[@charlesmcateer9070]

This guy was grilled by Congress not too long ago. He evaded many many questions. It's all 2nd amendment issue. What a big fat liar.

[@charlesmcateer9070]

He couldn't and wouldn't even define what an assault weapon is. I have 3 . My wits and pen in my hand.

[@NotAWendigo]

How long do we think this will last till an injuntion?

[@yrorellana6696]

CRIMINALS don't NEED or USE background check!!! this is ONLY for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ...

[@MrInsurance8]

every gun show i been to they do a back ground check

[@Freerepublictv]

Got my last rifel at a gun show waited 45 minutes for a background check by the FBI . what loophole

[@Jason_556]

I’ll sell my private property to who ever I want. As long as they aren’t felons. FJB and FATF!!!!

[@ClassicFIHD]

How would you know if they are felons?

[@Wizardof]

Do you want to be responsible when they trace it back to you if the law was made by legitimate legislation?

[@RussellMKay]

That means they are not paying you tax dollars! They must have their cut!

[@patriot9455]

laws stop criminals YEA, RIGHT

[@smittyimeanlastkingofscotl3731]

Shall not be INFRINGED 🇺🇸🗽🖕🏾⚖️

[@MD-oy4gv]

Will this stop them from sending these weapons to Israel? Genocide joe?

[@kiteflys8942]

Ban the Entire bill of rights.

[@jmatt1891]

There is no “gun show loophole” any gun dealer must preform a background check for every sale, every time, no matter if at a store or gun show. Knowingly selling a firearm to a prohibited person is already illegal.

[@ClassicFIHD]

Yes, dealers, not private citizens depending on the state laws.

[@stevedavis1850]

STATE GOVERNORS: Maybe our state governments should deploy their national guard to seize all aft field offices as they have clearly shown their tyrannical conduct and intent. To engage in the act of denying citizens their constitutional protected rights, and to make their own laws and rules clearly shows an attack on the people and the states have a right to defend their citizens from such institutions (FOREIGN & DOMESTIC) just as the Texas national guard has been demonstrating. The state’s should not recognize any institutions engaging in such behavior. Their duty as a federal agency is to enforce the laws set forth by congress only, not to create or give their interpretation of laws.

[@Androctonus84]

Just from a practical view, if what he is saying is correct, this is a meaningless act. He said that even under the old definition of a “gun dealer” there was already widespread non-compliance with the laws regarding how legal gun sales are conducted. That means the ATF either wasn’t, or wasn’t able, to enforce the law even then. So how does expanding the definition in order to put tens of thousands of more people into the category to be regulated do anything to help if you already couldn’t manage enforcement with that many fewer dealers to track? So you’ve just increased the number of people who are now technically potential criminals while not having done anything to actually increase the policing of the crime that by your own admission you were already failing miserably to police. That’s pretty f_ing stupid.

[@345Weeehrs]

Question, does this include drug dealers and gang members?

[@jason31047]

The gunshow assertion is a load of nonsense. I've been to several gunshows over the last couple of decades and have not observed a sale without a background check. This is nothing but a vilifying distraction. Is it possible that a small percentage are breaking the law, absolutely, but welcome.to.our larger society and our overall lax attitudes about fixing our problems.

[@benben6054]

Lie after lie dam

[@giovannigoegan2946]

Doesn’t even need Congress lol

[@mmccoll7692]

Will this include illegals who bring their own.

[@petechau9616]

Not to worry gun sales will go underground.

[@slinkyrobb]

Good luck getting any conviction based on a rule, fjb, ftatf, and ftdoj

[@Nickrioblanco1]

What a bunch of hypocrisy.

[@UTP_ENT]

Atf must’ve watched white boy Rick

[@tmastersat]

There is no loophole....how is this interstate comerce? By the constitution, they can not regulate in state comerce. Its time for the convention of states to clarify interstate commerce

[@user-ki6yc3wy2e]

Commies

[@clouded_arrow6440]

Text, History and Tradition…. Is this then valid?

[@chrishoward8187]

No such thing as a gun show loophole ! All firearms are with background checks !

[@ClassicFIHD]

Not true at all. Depends on the state.

[@DeclareRestore]

Defund the ATF

[@AV-bw4ry]

King Biden hath ordered upon ye a new law, i mean rule, which is enforced as law. "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789 "...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788 "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783 Dittlekids (atf director) isn’t an expert he is an educated fool put in place for the sole purpose of furthering tyranny, as he is complicit with federal overreach.

[@H.L.Hughes]

❤❤you have the right when you go buy dope to buy a gun at same time in america !!!❤❤❤😂😢😮😅😊

[@floridagunrat1625]

I know we have the right to elect a dope, but I didn't know we had the right to buy dope!

[@tp-mh2ji]

Gun trading events will start popping up!

[@user-kp8wp6lv5h]

Felony conviction is meaningless. So many nonviolent crimes are considered felony that it is meaningless!!!

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

Lol, gunshow loophole, huh?

[@mule1995]

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum!

[@rbm6184]

Violation of the 2nd and 5th Amendments. Private property is private property and the SCA is in violation of the 5th. The ATF has no Constitutional authority to make law, and this rule as well as the SCA is invalid under Article VI paragraph 2 since it is contrary to the US Constitution specifically the Bill of Rights. This unlawful abomination will result in the bloodshed of many more Ruby Ridges and Waco sieges if they are stupid enough to pursue it. Let the lawsuits and gunfights begin. Congress cannot pass law in violation of Article VI paragraph 2 or that law is invalid and it will have to be invalidated in court under these grounds. Otherwise kiss your private property rights and gun rights goodbye. The damage is already done and only the courts can fix it.

[@pedalingprospector2007]

Thank you, President Biden.

[@stuffwithkids7127]

Idiocy.

[@wiseinvest]

I agree with this rule.

[@Gun_Nut361]

You know it changed nothing right ? Shows how much you really know

[@jeffrhorer1811]

Its about time.

[@Gun_Nut361]

About time for what literally nothing changed you believe what the media tells you

[@Mark_Aqua]

@@Gun_Nut361If only Republicans would stop blocking legislation that would actually make a difference when it comes to gun violence. But you know, that doesn’t go over well with their crazy base.

[@ClassicFIHD]

@@Mark_Aqua Dohhhhh! 99.9% of mass murders are because of democrat gun laws. And gun laws only get people killed. Prove me wrong.

[@howardharter8098]

The comment period is a joke. It’s not done because they care about what people say.

[@Jason_556]

ATF director spoke like a true communist. Stalin would be proud of him.

[@texasrangers4]

Dettelbach doesn't know about guns

[@gersonhay984]

All the Guns the gangs in Chicago use Get them in Indiana.

[@tristenklein5940]

No they get them from illegal firearms traffickers and dealers all coming across the southern border!

[@eric2500]

all the more reason for a NATIONAL policy!

[@SantanaBinks]

@@eric2500nope. That’s straight up unconstitutional and anyone in support of that needs a refresher on the constitution.

[@SantanaBinks]

You really think guns are the problem? How about the people using them because they all look alike, maybe it a a community issue and not a gun issue

[@chrislockwood5299]

That’s bull💩. Gangs are buying mostly stolen guns. It’s still against federal law to purchase a handgun in a different state without it being transferred to an FFL in your state. Rifles and shotguns can be brought across state lines but still have to conform to the laws of your state. Why don’t they go after the gang members instead of law abiding citizens?

[@Mis-AdventureCH]

Nearly EVRYTHING goes through liscensed dealer....except for the criminal element and the black market, who never obeyed your laws to begin with. Go into any ""Gun show" and they're gonna send you over to the table where they charge $20 bucks for a NICS check, or they're a liscensed dealer and they'll do it themselves. What we really need is standardized testing and liscensing for media outlets and journalists.

[@gashgoblin44]

No one cares what that traitor has to say.

[@billbrown7583]

How about the same for migrants

[@gersonhay984]

Great work.

[@ronRon-fl1qw]

Never filled out a 4473 in my life. All of my guns are “undocumented” lol. Molon Labe

[@clist9406]

I am pro 2nd amendment, however if you buy space at a gun show to sell a firearm that would be selling as a business, so they should be Federal licensed dealers . It is not the same as selling or trading a firearm to a friend or family . If I ever decide to sell one of my personal guns , I would have a legal FFL dealer do the transfer just to protect myself in case that gun is stolen or used later on . I do not want to have to answer questions I don’t know the answer to or have to defend myself over something I have zero knowledge of .

[@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd]

It's no more selling as a business than a yard sale or Craigslist. We already know what they are going to try to do, and they're going to use people like you to defend it.

[@eric2500]

*Gun owners and users should be proud to buy and sell in public,* with a registry and or licenses or the equivalent, and they should support background checks! Prove you are competent and responsible the way my hunting friends do!

[@SantanaBinks]

No one has a problem with background checks. But you’re not going to take away private sales period. There is no need to “prove” anything. If the founding fathers wanted it that way it would have been written that way. 2A was written specifically to defend against a tyrannical government. Come and take them if you want them

[@donald2665]

How about this - If Free American Men and Women have the Freedom to buy and sell their own property, as safely as they can - in all States that I am aware of a Drivers License will tell one if there are any problems with State Citizenship and often restrictions. I support back ground checks for the purchase of new firearms, thru an FFL, however, if a private sale among consenting adults with reasonable checks on Citizenship and showing Drivers License, then, that should be the Right of Free Men and Women without hindrance or the over bearing hand of an Over Lord Government. Beyond initial new purchases thru an FFL then no, i do not support back ground checks. You have your opinion, and I am stating mine. In case you have not noticed, the Biden Administration and the various anti-gun organizations like Every Town for Tyranny and Moms Demand Tyranny, don't give one tinkers damn about your own Rights to a "hunting gun" or the rights of any firearms owner under the 2A or under the Bill of Rights.

[@chrislockwood5299]

Your hunting friends register their guns to the government? That’s weird. Will they complain when the government comes to take them and they can’t hunt anymore?

[@Delimon007]

Why should you need a license for a private sale that you must take to a licensed gun dealer? Hell no!

[@jimsizenbach9075]

​@@chrislockwood5299why would my hunting friends register guns to the govt?

[@jonahb2149]

Sounds like common sense to me. Bravo

[@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd]

How is closing a loophole that doesn't exist (because they had to create it by twisting words) sound common sense?

[@jonahb2149]

@@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd haha. If there wasn’t a loophole then why would 23K unlicensed dealers be affected by this bill? It’s a bipartisan bill for a reason it’s common sense.

[@Delimon007]

@@jonahb2149 . . . They are affected because they are unlicensed. When they sell the gun they have licensed people nearby who will perform the background check. This is also not a "bill." This is the ATF circumventing congress to make a new rule/law. You are truly showing how uneducated you are.

[@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname]

There was never a gun show loophole. A reporter went to a gun show to highlight the loophole and found you can't buy a gun at a gun show without a background check.

[@user-kp8wp6lv5h]

F YOU FTA. "Shall not be infringed" No one or any law will ever stop anyone from getting a gun!!! The FTA needs to be abolished!!!

[@andrewaustin3836]

Does this include rules against the atf killing innocent women and children?