Atheist challenges Muslims “Can you prove that God exists?”

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@OneTrueMessageFoundation
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@ameensaid3162
@ameensaid3162 2 жыл бұрын
I loved you let him go. sometimes, when you have good discussion even tho they reject, that argument will not be erased easily. it will play in his head over & over again and may be he will realise his believe was based on emotions and not facts. May Allah guide him.
@theresonlyone8881
@theresonlyone8881 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. This is something we need to keep in mind. We must not think ourselves that we didn’t explain it well etc.
@fawadandfamilyvlogs4671
@fawadandfamilyvlogs4671 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree... big thank you for brothers effort. Jazzakallah khair
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 2 жыл бұрын
amin
@AshVentureOfficial
@AshVentureOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
im a few seconds into this video and I can tell by the otne he uses alone that he will be one of these ppl, like this type of high-pitched "annoying" voice type of thing, I had an atheist schoolmate like this
@AshVentureOfficial
@AshVentureOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@angelmakersweetrolls Sure, maybe you are too :D
@aikidoisthebombyeah
@aikidoisthebombyeah 2 жыл бұрын
The man admitted his belief was an emotional belief and that the Muslim brother's belief was based on logic and rationality. It's sad that his wife's passing has turned his heart cold. May Allah have mercy upon him and bring him back to the straight path.
@tsukitohateru
@tsukitohateru 2 жыл бұрын
True. Him being able to admit that means that he wasn't in denial. He's just hurt and it's just easy for him to believe what is happening in front of him. While I love the rational reasons more than the emotional reasons to believe in something, there are people out there that wants to believe something with emotional reasons. He himself said that he's just not the audience for the rational side of islam. At least not yet. Because he haven't been touched by the emotional side yet.
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 2 жыл бұрын
Amin
@wowmasterziya77
@wowmasterziya77 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsukitohateru him beeing able to admit that he is thinking emotionali instead of logical show preety much that he is in denial .. but its not a bad thing ... you cant argue with science and later say yeah its because of emotional reasons .. .logic > emotion .. so yeah the atheist coudlnt explain logical so he swiched and said it has a emotional reason .. so he is in denial .. but hopefully he will find the right path
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 жыл бұрын
He did.
@lilyrosesoul0077
@lilyrosesoul0077 2 жыл бұрын
Many atheist use "suffering" or "bad experiences" in life as proof that God does not exists. Which is an emotional approach not a scientific approach.
@F2Ptaxi
@F2Ptaxi 2 жыл бұрын
That's expected I guess. Many people would be thinking a god would be benevolent and compassionate toward its creation. I too agree on this notion. To keep things short. I don't think allah is cruel toward its creation but allah can choose to be because he's the almighty one. But we need to also know allah sent us to this world for a test of faith. Allah didn't cause people to do immoral things at the beginning of mankind. But instead sent us prophets with guidance. If that isn't benevolence, then i don't know what benevolence is. Subhanallah. If allah helped everyone to learn everything about him, then it voids the reason why we were sent here for the test in the first place. Wallahualam. Assalamualaikum.
@mrizky5653
@mrizky5653 2 жыл бұрын
@@F2Ptaxi I think better use Allah instead small a, because Allah is the greatest🙏
@BR-it2qe
@BR-it2qe 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you. Pointing out that bad things happen isn't an emotional approach. Children die. I'm stating a fact. I could see what you're saying if I was crying and getting angry if I said that, but I'm not. The sky is blue, water is wet and people suffer. Facts.
@lilyrosesoul0077
@lilyrosesoul0077 2 жыл бұрын
@@BR-it2qe it is an emotional approach. Why is dying bad? If a person's paradigm is based on evolution, then there is no good or bad. If there is no God, why should good or evil exists? How to decide what is good or bad? Arent wars and famines part of the natural order of things...which is that the weak get killed off and the strongest humans in the gene pool survive? So saying suffering is bad is simply saying "mother nature" is bad . Maybe this is how mother nature gets rids of excess humans and mother nature or the natural system isnt about feelings but simply the survival if the fittest.
@BR-it2qe
@BR-it2qe 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilyrosesoul0077 let me reiterate what I'm saying. Stating a fact is not an "emotional approach". If I say the sky is blue, that is not an emotional approach. If I say children die, that is not an emotional approach. Disease exists, again not an emotional approach. Dying is bad because of the emotional impact it has on the loved ones of the dead person. Also, there is now a body that needs to be disposed of because it can spread disease, attack predators and be unpleasant to be around. The manner of death could matter, perhaps the individual suffered. This can get much more in depth. I don't believe in God, simply because there's not good evidence to believe in one. Furthermore people out there act like they have all the answer simply because they have faith. That's very bad in my opinion as well as arrogant.
@crafty_prop
@crafty_prop 2 жыл бұрын
I wish more channel with host like this appear on youtube. For me, I believe in the faith but I am not that articulated to explain myself to others. Throughout the years of watching da'wah videos here, Ive managed to learn how to form my sentence and at least make others understand what I believe.
@nurlia2679
@nurlia2679 2 жыл бұрын
You may watch ytb channel one message foundation, street dakwah of shayk uthman bin farooq.
@KHMORAH
@KHMORAH 2 жыл бұрын
Insha Allah you will be , May Allah reward you with more wisdom and more articulation.
@crafty_prop
@crafty_prop 2 жыл бұрын
@@nurlia2679 Whatever you watch, I watched it too. Dont worry.
@lionheartl932
@lionheartl932 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m not your audience”. Such a shame. May Allah open his heart.
@seeki3315
@seeki3315 2 жыл бұрын
Camera! Action! Let Quran began… how many people inspired by islam suicide cult of mu Ham Mad 20 commandments 1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. quran 65:4 2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. quran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30 3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. quran 4:34 4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. quran 24:13 5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. quran 33:57 6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. quran 8:12, 47:4 7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. quran 9:111 8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. quran 2:217, 4:89 9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. quran 8:12, 47:4 10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. quran 9:5 11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. quran 8:12, 8:60 12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. quran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War) 13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. quran 3:28, 16:106 14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. quran 2:216 15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. quran 5:51 16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. quran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106 17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. quran 98:6 18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. quran 4:101 19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. quran 9:29 20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. quran 9:29?
@abdussamee9363
@abdussamee9363 2 жыл бұрын
@@seeki3315 wow somebody has never even opened the Quran 😅
@Berjayacair
@Berjayacair 2 жыл бұрын
@@seeki3315 stop lying about Islam and just go to your bible that demand to kill babies (1 SAMUEL 15: 3) Don’t let anything live; you must kill all the men and women and all of their children and little babies. You must kill all of their cattle and sheep and all of their camels and donkeys.’”
@MoroccanARROWS
@MoroccanARROWS 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdussamee9363 and @all honest people, *seeki33* is among them 👇🏻. Please be aware of people on comments' section attacking Islam with provocative comments, pointing controversial and/or suspicious matters, with no common sense and trying to debate with lies and/or very weak, corrupted, mistaken,.. knowledge. Most of these people are paid for this job (and Islam enemies are known). Actually they must be very well paid because you'll find them in every section tracking comments or creating new ones. Their YT accounts are similar, created recently almost the same period *(mostly between 2020 and 2021),* either empty (like their brains) or full of hate, or preaching their own garbage, etc. *Their job is to set fire nothing else !* Such as : . *Cerveza* way (who's brain is probably affected from abusing drinking cerveza!!) . *Zuma* John (who's brain is probably also affected from abusing gaming zuma!!) . *Truth seeker* (while he is in reality just a _fitna_ trouble maker!). (Funny pseudo coincidences!) . Truth speaker . G.Galeev . Dan judah . Always Truth . FRANCIS LIM . More qurans f... . ExMslm . Martin Ramsbottom (Ram's bottom !!! hhhhh) . phaulian (plz not christian! not paulian! A new version!) . Abu Tahir . Rayrad 696 . madmadmohmad . Ronnie Gray . Civilization Morality . Mawa . Ian Kennedy . Elisabetta . Mena Saad . Peace . Dr-Kuffarphobia . NYC Orange . IslamKa Bawaal . Hoories Of Paradise . robert okello . Usama Fayyaz . Augusto Campos . Nathan Sam . World Monarch . joseph johnston . againstsuperstition fv . Jesus Deity . LogansWarning . Camel toe . Konshens Kodialwall . Humble Servant . twn B . golden brown . Hans Wurst . Child of God . ISAiah 42 . He is who he is . seeki33 . and plenty of them.. *If you come across such creatures, just EXPOSE them to warn people to NOT WASTE THEIR TIME exchanging with them.. and just let them BARK..* 👉🏻 *And please don't forget to add pseudonyms to the list !* Finally we ask _Hidaya_ (Guidance) for us Muslims, for these pitiful people as well, and for all Non Muslims.. *_May Allah show us the Truth as truth and grant us to follow it and show us the Falsehood as falsehood and grant us to avoid it. Ameen_*
@eneszeqiri3364
@eneszeqiri3364 2 жыл бұрын
@@seeki3315 For everyone that comes accross this comment that im replying to with those verses of the Quran, are all lies, open a Quran and look at it urself.
@onetouhid
@onetouhid 2 жыл бұрын
Really lovely Dawah MaaShaAllah. One criticism, please allow the person to talk freely more without interrupting him so many times.
@Uss997
@Uss997 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ahmedbebackup9944
@ahmedbebackup9944 2 жыл бұрын
That hurts my heart. He knows the truth but he rejects it!!!
@echoe4806
@echoe4806 2 жыл бұрын
This hurts my brain.He has no proof of a god.Everything is based on assumptions.Because we cannot explain how the universe was formed it doesn’t mean we automatically will assume it was created by a god, Santa clause or some other character.
@ahmedbebackup9944
@ahmedbebackup9944 2 жыл бұрын
@@echoe4806 The mind cannot function without causality and causal chain cannot be infinite. God is necessity. He needs no proof. Without God, no principles of logic exist. If you can't see that I can't help you. If you are blind no body can show you the sun.
@aA-ez1yy
@aA-ez1yy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedbebackup9944 you can't prove that God exists
@ahmedbebackup9944
@ahmedbebackup9944 2 жыл бұрын
@@aA-ez1yy you don't know what "proof" means. Try defining "proof" and you'll know that.
@aA-ez1yy
@aA-ez1yy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedbebackup9944 Definition of proof (Entry 1 of 3) 1a: the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact b: the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning
@rambobambo6079
@rambobambo6079 2 жыл бұрын
I love this street dawah videos like the ones from Seikh uthmann one message foundation. May your channel grow and may Allah bless you brothers! Amin
@Berjayacair
@Berjayacair 2 жыл бұрын
Amin 😊
@alphahighs
@alphahighs 2 жыл бұрын
When he said "I'm not your audience" I truly felt that in my soul, ik exactly what he feels, it's quite sad he has probably been through a lot emotionally😔
@ikhsanfadillah9689
@ikhsanfadillah9689 2 жыл бұрын
"I am not your audience" a.k.a "I am not interest with god and my friend gonna mock me if I believe in god"
@jahidlm7910
@jahidlm7910 2 жыл бұрын
Well it is the same thing like “my friend gonna mock me if I dont believe in god” lol
@DocRealTalk
@DocRealTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@jahidlm7910 Bingo! lol
@barel8741
@barel8741 2 жыл бұрын
@@jahidlm7910 not really sometimes it's the atheist who wanna try look smart and edgy just by "not believing in god"
@jahidlm7910
@jahidlm7910 2 жыл бұрын
@@barel8741 what i tried to explain here is there is no right or wrong in any belief that you choose because it will always be from your eyes and not from the other so it’s pointless to shoving your belief on others because you only see what you choose to believe.
@barel8741
@barel8741 2 жыл бұрын
@@jahidlm7910 who is shoving my belief? The guy on the video is literally there, he can chose to walk away, same with you, you are here commenting, and discussing, literally no one shoving our belief... And my point still stands, especially if u are in west, believing in god could mean u are backwards, and more negative
@Ray-gz5wh
@Ray-gz5wh 2 жыл бұрын
Subhan'Allaah.. Excellent & respectful delivery of the message from this brother, May Allah azza wa jal bless him. Guidance is from Allaah alone.. And all anyone can do is deliver the untainted message, which is what this brother did. However, it's really interesting to see the reaction of Atheists who believe they are logical/rational beings when it's shown to them that their foundations are built on emotion like this gentleman. May Allaah ta'ala guide him.
@rifaiyassine98
@rifaiyassine98 2 жыл бұрын
He seems like a rational person, the bad things that happened to him are signs from the Creator that his life is temporary and he needs to search for the purpose of it.
@shahid8545
@shahid8545 2 жыл бұрын
Good exchange with the fellow. I hope he can find time to reconcile his losses and know that this life wasn't a mistake and that everything will be made clear. Knowledge turns to trust and real trust doesn't sway in the wind. It's firm. May Allah(swt) guide us all. 🤲🏽
@Moweezy
@Moweezy 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun with 72 virgins of hell according to Islam
@thenasir121938
@thenasir121938 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moweezy You're jealous like hell.
@Moweezy
@Moweezy 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenasir121938 That’s kiddy thinking, I have a wife.
@thenasir121938
@thenasir121938 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moweezy I have 1 - I can look forward to 72. You have 1 - that's that. Pity you. Still not jealous?
@Toxikcid
@Toxikcid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moweezy ofc it's fun. But I will ask for more 😃
@m.g.543
@m.g.543 Жыл бұрын
As-salaamu 'alaykum OTM Foundation, I love your videos masha Allah...may Allah continue to guide and bless people through you. When the man mentioned his wife and mother died, it would have been an opportunity to comfort him...with the possibility of being reunited with them in the next life. It seemed like he was needing some emotional support, rather than "that's an emotional argument." I think that's why he shut the conversation down after that. He might have cried to himself later that day, Allah knows best. May Allah guide this man for his generous and thoughtful nature, and heal his broken heart for Allah's sake, and may he be reunited with his wife and mother in the next life in the best of ways.
@rizaanjappie
@rizaanjappie 2 жыл бұрын
A depressing worldview to think, if i die tomorrow, i die. So what. Alhumdulilla Allah has given us purpose.
@humairadurrani132
@humairadurrani132 2 жыл бұрын
Feel sorry for uncle ! May ALLAH ALMIGHTY Guide him Aammin
@IRAM_rehman
@IRAM_rehman 2 жыл бұрын
I do find it strange when people don't believe in god because of bad things happening in the world tbh that would make me believe in God even more otherwise this world would make no sense to me and I'd wonder what its purpose would be to begin with.
@omarshdalvizo
@omarshdalvizo 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is brought up different. Maybe one day someone or something will make him believe in God Insha Allah!
@IRAM_rehman
@IRAM_rehman 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarshdalvizo inshallah
@Muslim_Convert_Stories
@Muslim_Convert_Stories 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarshdalvizo FROM GANG LEADER TO ISLAM( AMAZING AND EMOTIONAL REVERT STORY)😢 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6HGpXymq8x_eqs
@adibz959
@adibz959 2 жыл бұрын
Im with you. Did people believe that, in order for God to exist, everyone should live well and dandy all the time? We dont live in heaven! And they expecting we live like in heaven while they dont even believe in God
@Berjayacair
@Berjayacair 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah bless us amin 😊
@turkishsalafi9819
@turkishsalafi9819 2 жыл бұрын
The contingency argument is honestly the most convincing argument for anyone with an ounce of self-respect.
@philipcoriolis6614
@philipcoriolis6614 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of self-respect but consider the contingency argument nonsense.
@turkishsalafi9819
@turkishsalafi9819 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipcoriolis6614 To believe in absurd conclusions is what atheism is. All of this was self-made with no will or intent? even if your so called multiverses exist it doesn't effect the contingency argument at all.
@philipcoriolis6614
@philipcoriolis6614 2 жыл бұрын
​@@turkishsalafi9819 Will and intent must be proven.
@turkishsalafi9819
@turkishsalafi9819 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipcoriolis6614 Without will, the universe couldn't start. End of.
@philipcoriolis6614
@philipcoriolis6614 2 жыл бұрын
@@turkishsalafi9819 May be the universe is eternal and never started.
@Sk_ldn
@Sk_ldn 2 жыл бұрын
Akhi you laid it out sweet and simple, nothing to technical just kept the ball rolling اَللّهُمَّ بَارِكْ May Allah increase you brothers in good and keep you firm upon the Quran & Sunnah ameen
@areebebrahim39
@areebebrahim39 2 жыл бұрын
الله يعطيهم العافية
@saestahkhan4257
@saestahkhan4257 2 жыл бұрын
MASHA ALLAH❤ FULL support💪 from INDIA🇮🇳
@mostafasalaheldin812
@mostafasalaheldin812 2 жыл бұрын
أسأل الله أن يحفظك أخى ويشرح صدرك ويحلل عقدة من لسانك، وأن يهدى بك العباد. وأن يرزقك الفهم والعلم.
@mikkeljan
@mikkeljan 2 жыл бұрын
Some people think, if we believe we are doing God a favor, Allah does not need you,(us) but we need Him, Allah swt created everything from nothing.
@reenotto4151
@reenotto4151 2 жыл бұрын
why do you personally need him?
@mikkeljan
@mikkeljan 2 жыл бұрын
@@reenotto4151 why not?
@reenotto4151
@reenotto4151 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikkeljan You said we need him. Personally i don't, but i was curious to hear about your reasons. But you answered my question with a question.
@mikkeljan
@mikkeljan 2 жыл бұрын
@@reenotto4151 it is your opinion, we believe in one creator and we believe we that every prophet was sent with one massage, to worship Him alone and not associate any partners in worship with Him, He created us with this purpose, and to Him we return. And this religion of Islam is not force, but we believe this is the final massage to mankind.
@reenotto4151
@reenotto4151 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikkeljan That is absolutely fine with me. Everybody can believe what he or she wants, as long as they don't try to push their beliefs onto other by saying their belief is the truth or the answer. It's a belief and not facts. As long as this understood, there is no problem.
@hishamkool
@hishamkool 2 жыл бұрын
What a respectful conversation
@SN-uq6kd
@SN-uq6kd 2 жыл бұрын
Please upload more!
@danh4435
@danh4435 2 жыл бұрын
He'll remember this day on the day of judgement
@batulhaque5021
@batulhaque5021 2 жыл бұрын
Allahummah barek, May Allah bless you. I am in awe of your articulation!
@abdulmunim318
@abdulmunim318 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not your audience". If only he knew what he turned down at that moment. So because you have family members that have died, this then means that this universe has no creator? I'm scratching my head here
@bengreen171
@bengreen171 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist and I agree with you. Emotional reasons like that are just as flawed as believing in God because you desire justice or the afterlife. Having said that, the problem of Evil does raise sufficient problems for theism - if that theism relies on a concept of God that is all knowing, all powerful and omnibenevolent.
@nomatter3757
@nomatter3757 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengreen171 The reason why we have got evil in this world is so that we may know what is good. That is how we are being tested. Just like true and false, day and night, low and high. If we did not know of the opposite, we would not know what is what. This is the very reason that we humans believe that this world is a test. When something bad happens to a Muslim we have to know that this is a test from Allah, a reminder, something which is supposed to draw us closer to the truth because we cannot control everything because we do not know everything, and we are not perfect, but Allah is, and that is why we believe in the one true God, Allah.
@bengreen171
@bengreen171 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomatter3757 no. You can have good things and recognise them for being good without any evil to compare them to. Fish spend their whole lives underwater - do you think they need to experience being on land to know they are wet? Just because you have an emotional need to give meaning to suffering - it doesn't mean there is one.
@BigBabaMufasa
@BigBabaMufasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengreen171 Sorry, I don’t see how that fish analogy works at all there. Most people take their luxuries and privileges for granted until they see others without them or experience that for themselves. Have you recognized the blessing of having 2 arms until you see someone struggling with just 1? Respectfully, I truly do believe you need to witness darkness to appreciate the light.
@s.h.2697
@s.h.2697 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengreen171 There is no emotional need to give meaning to suffering. We are told in the Qur'an, which has numerous evidences for its validity and truth, that this life and world was not created without a purpose, but rather that God created humans to test them and see who amongst them is "best in deed." In fact, we are promised that we WILL be tested. In addition, we were told that we have free will in this world, to make our choices, to act good or evil, to believe or disbelieve. Free will necessitates that there will be evil. Rape, wars, abuse, murder, adultery occur because they are choices that humans made...and every single person will be held accountable for their choices in this world. Anyways mate, you don't have to "believe," or agree. I'm just trying to explain to you that whatever beliefs Muslims have, they have a basis - and they start with the Qur'an, a book that has no contradictions (even with all the attacks people desperately try to make against it). It's an amazing, powerful and compelling religion. But the Qur'an also explains the reasons why people won't believe. The interesting thing about the Qur'an too, is God is not in the least bit apologetic. It's pure and simple, this is the truth, you like it, great, if you don't, He has no need of you. He has sent you the message, He has warned us of what's to come and He has placed in our innate nature the need for and ability to seek out God...but some will ignore it out of arrogance (primarily), heedlesssness, stubbornness and insincerity. But God has promised to guide those who seek the truth sincerely. Best of luck to you anyways. "For you is your religion, and for me is mine."
@TheMind11111
@TheMind11111 2 жыл бұрын
Brothers! You kept interrupting the man and wallahi i believe that was one of the reasons why he left early. While giving Dawah, you have to let the recipient be able to express his or her thoughts. BarakAllahu feekum
@lovelymax2115
@lovelymax2115 2 жыл бұрын
🥺💗he is in pain my Allah swt help him and guide him
@rocketdogticker
@rocketdogticker 2 жыл бұрын
I love how smug Atheist are. If they only knew that even the freemasons see them as fools. Literally taking space until they make up their minds. Praise G-d for now allowing me to become like that.. May Allah(swt) help him and us all too for that matter.
@fawadandfamilyvlogs4671
@fawadandfamilyvlogs4671 2 жыл бұрын
Very well approach by brother. Let him think. Ponder. Research, self search , give him time and space now. Masha Allah Subhan Allah... proud of having brothers like you... final thing to say that he was the perfect kind of Audience we are looking for... intelligent, experienced, logical .. May Allah guide him towards Islam. Ameen . He was rationally and intellectually inspired and Insha Allah now he will emotionally accept Islam too .
@Irsalization
@Irsalization 2 жыл бұрын
Very Appreciate for Indonesian Subtitle
@abdalsamiahsaed7303
@abdalsamiahsaed7303 2 жыл бұрын
He's not a hard atheist but also don't want to listen , he simply doesn't want to believe in anything
@abdalsamiahsaed7303
@abdalsamiahsaed7303 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 calling it lies is an active claim u need to prove if u want to say it , in the video the brother says he can't prove it which he meant scientificly , then explained why science is the wrong tool to measure with , n it's not the only route of knowledge , over all the discussion was very short n you barley heard something n u already took a position ... Get educated about the manor n why Muslims believe what they believe then pass judgement.
@abdalsamiahsaed7303
@abdalsamiahsaed7303 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 n btw , im not saying the creation is an evidence of the creator , but what do u mean only the uneducated try that ?! , What kind of knowledge would u need to have to stop saying that can u share ?
@abdalsamiahsaed7303
@abdalsamiahsaed7303 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 again with the active claim of lies , u basically ignorant nothing more than that stop acting like the upper hand kid
@asadzaidi6188
@asadzaidi6188 2 жыл бұрын
And this is why the Christian definition of God confuses people and then cases disillusionment, leading them to stop believing.
@warakanda7356
@warakanda7356 2 жыл бұрын
SubhanAllah Alhamdulillah May Allah SWT guide those who reverted to Islam, to the true teaching of Islam and being an obedient Muslim, will grant them and all the Ummah with a place in Jannah. Aamiin..
@marsabdul8591
@marsabdul8591 2 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking, because I truly believe he is a good man. Oh Allah please guide him and bring peace to his heart. Ameen. Wish I could find him.
@shikooo5703
@shikooo5703 2 жыл бұрын
at least he is a gentle man . may allah guide him to the right path one day and help him to avoid his emotional reasons to know the truth
@IslamAudioStation
@IslamAudioStation 2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained and really logical.
@ReturningRuh
@ReturningRuh 2 жыл бұрын
Al-Baqarah 2:155 وَلَنَبْلُوَنَّكُم بِشَىْءٍ مِّنَ ٱلْخَوْفِ وَٱلْجُوعِ وَنَقْصٍ مِّنَ ٱلْأَمْوَٰلِ وَٱلْأَنفُسِ وَٱلثَّمَرَٰتِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلصَّٰبِرِينَ We shall certainly test you with fear and hunger, and loss of property, lives, and crops. But [Prophet], give good news to those who are steadfast, Al-Baqarah 2:156 ٱلَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَصَٰبَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوٓا۟ إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّآ إِلَيْهِ رَٰجِعُونَ those who say, when afflicted with a calamity, ‘We belong to God and to Him we shall return.’
@jojoahmd123
@jojoahmd123 2 жыл бұрын
So to the guy isn’t about logic it is all emotional at the end
@wewuwewu2034
@wewuwewu2034 2 жыл бұрын
He is a very nice guy,i hope that Allah will give him hidayah
@imax4975
@imax4975 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is what they call "metathesiophobia" He felt fear when he found himself between denial and appearing naive, or following the truth and completely changing his way of life So he decided to leave early.
@shadeeduliqaab
@shadeeduliqaab 2 жыл бұрын
"being a good Muslim is a good thing"
@YutoDaimaouChHaruComrade
@YutoDaimaouChHaruComrade 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah give that man guidance... and i pray his beloved who died, get a best place..... it's ok to let go people who reject Islam. Islam never force people to be a muslim, but all we can do is only tell them the truth and let Allah do the rest
@Contraflow01
@Contraflow01 2 жыл бұрын
If he reads the Quran with sincerity, he will get the answers to his sorrows, that grieves are not permanent in an impermanent world and the hereafter is truly the everlasting.
@rzlb5
@rzlb5 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue is we can't fake sincererity.
@Contraflow01
@Contraflow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 if you understand matter, 8o percent is dark matter that scientist could not even understand. What is unseen doesn’t mean does not exist. Keep searching and be opened to the unknown.
@Contraflow01
@Contraflow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 hello Brien. Even hard sciences are full of theories about the unseen. Have you not heard of anti matters. Cant say Science is void of theories and deductions. Critical reasoning can lead to belief of God as it is the only explanation we have about our existence where hard science cannot answer. We have to have humility and be open minded.
@Contraflow01
@Contraflow01 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 it is better to be slaves of the Almighty than the slaves of our arrogance.
@aroundtheworldaly
@aroundtheworldaly 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah (swt) open his mind and heart to the truth. Ameen
@NATURLIST
@NATURLIST 2 жыл бұрын
The best two Street dawah tables I came across in London, are shamzi' shepherd bush dawah table', and there is a Jamaican brother that do dawah table in Oxford Street central London, those two dawah table know how to convince atheist with clear proof' upto the point that the arrogant atheist will see their own guilt of arrogance and lack of sincerity Infront their own face' the real sincere ones' will accept, but the lesser sincere ones' will say I'm not ready yet! May Allah increase these brothers in this video though aamiin
@tauhidurrahmanyusufitauhid9307
@tauhidurrahmanyusufitauhid9307 Жыл бұрын
Hat's of the generosity, brother told the man that he seems like a rational person right after hearing the most irrational answer from him.
@openupyoureyes9230
@openupyoureyes9230 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide him..he has good heart
@iswallbanoo9843
@iswallbanoo9843 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day. The binding people don't want to come to the light 🕯️
@rathernot6660
@rathernot6660 2 жыл бұрын
Wallahi. The believer in God is more rational and more intelligent. The atheist life is a life of stubbornness with blinkers and strangled by the challenges of this world akin to a yoke around his neck. No different to a donkey.
@yvesvangulik8268
@yvesvangulik8268 2 жыл бұрын
I really felt the pain the brothers felt when that man left. The brother on the left even was like: “no no no listen” at 06:58 because he truly want people to believe and save themselves for their own sake. They gain nothing by doing this, except for the reward from Allah SWT. Truth is, Allah swt told us about this in the Holy Quran. Some people will not believe even if you overwhelm them with signs. How bad will it be when you will judged on the day, and you will want to sacrifice everything you have including your children and spouse to save yourself and Allah swt will say; I have asked much less from you to do. May Allah swt protect us and guide us and may the brothers and sisters from OTM foundation be rewarded for the work they do only for the sake of Allah swt. Ameen. I love my brothers and sisters for the sake of Allah ☝️
@aRsH-aJ
@aRsH-aJ 2 жыл бұрын
He seems a nice and an honest person. He admitted that his reason of dis-belief in God is "emotional" rather than "intellectual".
@aRsH-aJ
@aRsH-aJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 It depends on the concept of God or gods you have. For example :: For example, you dont require any "intellectual" arguments to disprove "pagan" gods... like Jupiter,Saturn,Sun,Moon etc.
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 2 жыл бұрын
masha ALLAH
@EmruAlqais
@EmruAlqais 2 жыл бұрын
Pleased to see new faces (the callers for the truth) but hopefully, you'd allow the other people to speak as you've not given them enough time to do so. May Allah preserve you
@skdoremi6666
@skdoremi6666 Жыл бұрын
Idk why I felt sad when I heard him saying am not your audience......I felt sorry, like something didn't reach him........I hope ALLAH reach his heart,I hope he opens his heart and mind.
@shafiqrashid2010
@shafiqrashid2010 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god from the intro i thought its tje physics professor michio kaku.. hahaha
@kungtruthfighting6504
@kungtruthfighting6504 2 жыл бұрын
lovely man, very sad he lost his family
@seawave100
@seawave100 2 жыл бұрын
الحمد لله على نعمه الاسلام وكفي بها نعمة
@aminpop6674
@aminpop6674 2 жыл бұрын
يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ
@SecukupAli
@SecukupAli 2 жыл бұрын
You can't force someone and at least I respect his ground and really hope one day he will receive hidayah
@Sahabat83able
@Sahabat83able 2 жыл бұрын
Hidayah / Nur is very expensive, even though u have money but you can buy it, even though u have mind not necessary u can get it
@oswiu7033
@oswiu7033 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sad for that man. He sounds like his heart is broken.
@forehead-l3l
@forehead-l3l Жыл бұрын
The atheist had a fair reason not to believe in God in his side because even though he is wrong but still we shouldn't argue with him. He only knows what he has gone through in his life
@RubyRim
@RubyRim 2 жыл бұрын
"Deaf ears and blind eyes." No matter how rational the explanation, if the heart is closed, nothing will stick! May Allah forgive us 🤲🏽
@rpings8468
@rpings8468 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about this explanation was rational…
@y_p7
@y_p7 2 жыл бұрын
Props for the gentleman for explaining very well!👍👍👍
@sweetmelon3365
@sweetmelon3365 2 жыл бұрын
In Islam we do have proofs and those proofs are reasons....
@joesarb6455
@joesarb6455 2 жыл бұрын
Quite impressive really when Muslims can calmly and intelligently discuss the topic with an atheist without going into preach mode.
@NK-mp5xp
@NK-mp5xp 2 жыл бұрын
Preaching mode is from Christians.
@antinonsense
@antinonsense 2 жыл бұрын
Death itself is a preacher to remind us of our own end. If he has experienced loss of relatives that's surely very saddening but this only has to motivate him to look for ways to contact them or dig into the possibility of reuniting with them. It doesn't befit us to turn our back on possibilities which if we go deep into it is not even possibility anymore but it becomes a fact that our death is not the end but a transition into another.
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 2 жыл бұрын
Masya Alloh BarakAllaahu fiikum jazakAllaahu khoir, very strong reasons from the muslim brother, like Hamza Myatt's. Please keep uploading insya Allah
@Asiyah2000
@Asiyah2000 2 жыл бұрын
لهم قلوب لا يعقلون بها😤
@lilyoyo77
@lilyoyo77 2 жыл бұрын
الانسان يعقل بعقلِه و ليس بقلبه
@badatpseudoscience
@badatpseudoscience 2 жыл бұрын
This is the cosmological argument. First, we don't know that the universe began at the big bang. Many models in physics have the universe extending to an infinite regress or to a beginning of time itself. Next, cosmologists that study the big bang have models where the universe could have started at the big bang without a God. Finley, any property that you can assign to a God to resolve an infinite regress could be assigned to an unknown physical process just as easily.
@walkerflocker7811
@walkerflocker7811 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the kalam argument is just another presup.... It's been done over and over, I can't see how people find it compelling
@BigBabaMufasa
@BigBabaMufasa 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you guys understand the kalam cosmological argument fully. If there are an infinite amount of events forward in time, would we ever reach a “final” event? Similarly, if there are an infinite amount of events/causes backwards in time, would we ever reach our current time of existence? This is the problem with infinite regression, whether its infinite time backwards, or infinite Creators/causes for existence. We know there could be an event/events preceding the Big Bang but either way, a never ending amount of causes would not be rational since it would be impossible to have reached our Universe’s current time/existence. There has to be an Uncaused Cause. Please share your thoughts on this my friends.
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigBabaMufasa I don't think you understand that infinite regression is a _paradox_ (true logically, false realistically). Nor do you realize that to present a paradox as a premise is to present a premise which is NOT sound. Sound arguments must consist of sound premises.
@BigBabaMufasa
@BigBabaMufasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 You and I are agreeing mate… it’s the original comment here that is arguing that an infinite regression IS possible realistically.
@walkerflocker7811
@walkerflocker7811 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 we don't know that there isn't an infinite regress. Even if time was infinite there would still be a timeline. Just points on an infinite line.
@umeedee5443
@umeedee5443 2 жыл бұрын
Jika mereka bertanya, bagaimana membuktikan Alloh. Maka jawaban adalah. Apakah mereka bisa melihat udara? Bahkan tanpa melihat udara (oksigen) mereka tetap bernafas.. Sedang dalam udara ada banyak zat gas, tapi.. Kita tetap bernafas dengan oksigen tanpa bisa memilihnya.
@strictlyyoutube6881
@strictlyyoutube6881 2 жыл бұрын
Life is certainly tough. I'm sorry for this gentleman losses. If he only had Allah could he realise how much was to gain.
@user-sn4kw4gf5w
@user-sn4kw4gf5w 2 жыл бұрын
If any body does not believe the existence of God, better to say the existence of God's Word the holy Quran. The Quran is the perfect evident that it bears the scientific notions that no human could deny.
@onsite5360
@onsite5360 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could be a part of this effort.🥰🥰🥰
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 2 жыл бұрын
"35. Or were they created out of nothing? Or are they the creators?36. Or did they create the heavens and the earth? In fact, they are not certain." Q52
@abzrollin9800
@abzrollin9800 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling this is going to be like sheikh uthmans channel but UK version 🙏
@testaccount7010
@testaccount7010 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah help this person...aameennn
@neroknight1234
@neroknight1234 2 жыл бұрын
This man really said he don’t believe in god because his family died. Bruhhh our family dying is sad yes, but we are not immortals. However he gave a really good point about the “predestiny” analogy of a grenade exploding. I actually like that
@fazalshaikh422
@fazalshaikh422 2 жыл бұрын
Someone please make him understand the real scheme of this world and what’s actually going on here plus what is required from us to do depending on the nature of this time and dimension. Rational arguments are there not to prove the existence of God but to show the rationalists that what we believe is well under the rationalistic framework. brother did made him understand that Masha’Allah. In my opinion this Ontological/Cosmological argument might not convince him. In the end guidance is from Allah He guides whoever he wills.
@artist.thirst
@artist.thirst 2 жыл бұрын
the atheist wasnt able to answer anything ,just left his s entences incompleted didnt provide any reason
@Jonas_Albert
@Jonas_Albert 2 жыл бұрын
1:49. He nailed it!
@endlessislam7540
@endlessislam7540 2 жыл бұрын
Never leave/skip prayers no matter what sins you have on your life.the moment God decides taking your life then everything will stop there and then you can't even pray or increase anything from your good deeds
@AbdulRehman-fh4nu
@AbdulRehman-fh4nu 2 жыл бұрын
This man looks really sad may Allah guide him
@jrluke6206
@jrluke6206 2 жыл бұрын
For every people you talk to recite al ikhlas .ask what do you think
@ebrahimi44
@ebrahimi44 2 жыл бұрын
Disbelief in God only comes from pride and vanity nothing else.
@tuhid5229
@tuhid5229 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is the Truth.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
When the big bang took place, everything fell into a perfect order. If n explosion takes place on earth, chaos is always the result. The Creator is above his creation and are not subjected to what He creates. Glory be to Him.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 I don't understand what is so amusing. Perhaps I'm not getting the joke if there is one.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 You right, there are no Gods as in the plural form, except One. Who created science? Or did this also came into existence like those foolish people believe. How illogical. Science is limited. There is no scale that they can measure or proof the existence of a Creator. That in it self is limited knowledge. You not the first or the last to deny the existence of a Creator. The proofs is overwhelming, even in yourself, your makeup as a human are proof that there must be without a doubt be a Supreme Creator.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 You are the proof. Nature in its self is proof for those who claim to have n intellect.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 Ignorance? I think you are the ignorant one. Foolish beliefs. You think because science had advance to such a level that they become superior to Remove the Creator from all equations. How laughable.
@faroukanthony4761
@faroukanthony4761 2 жыл бұрын
@@briendoyle4680 Then that is your opinion. As there are millions of people who believe in a higher being, a Creator including most scientists. Nothing on earth nor in the heavens just came out of it self. This is a big fallacy.
@GamingShocker
@GamingShocker Жыл бұрын
The fact that someone designed every unique part of your whole body and be able to move with what we call our "Soul" is from someone beyond our power of thinking. God is real. Creator=Creation. Simple logic.
@icebrow
@icebrow 2 жыл бұрын
Nice try to save men like him who succumb to their sadness
@kylesavedbyTheLordJesusChrist
@kylesavedbyTheLordJesusChrist 2 жыл бұрын
Psalm 53:1 To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David. "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
@airportdocumentaries
@airportdocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
Many athiests believe we are not alone in this universe and that there are alien creatures out there, but when it comes to talking about a higher being that could have created all this, it's something they can't comprehend so therefore God can't exist
@mr.meowbartholomewherberttheth
@mr.meowbartholomewherberttheth Жыл бұрын
People who are an atheist and still respect every religion 👇
@TheMuslimApologist
@TheMuslimApologist 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic discourse.
@Billzloveschelsea
@Billzloveschelsea 2 жыл бұрын
This old dude doesn’t want to listen...
@SimpleReally
@SimpleReally 2 жыл бұрын
bad final answer from the brother, the second the man brings up his emotional argument you don't go and say: "I'm logical and you're emotional". you lost him right there.
@rz9018
@rz9018 2 жыл бұрын
I want to learn too. What do i say in those moments?
@muzosh
@muzosh 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s it. He’s a scientist, he has a logical mindset. When he went emotional on a logical discussion which HE asked for he lost his case.
@Stillwater860
@Stillwater860 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a very valid answer as the implication is that your view on whether God exist or not is somewhat subjective and dependent on how you feel. So bases in his emotional response if all his loved ones were alive and he was happy could the converse of his argument materialise?
@sufferman1
@sufferman1 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Abu Jahl and Quraish of Makkah
@123_Soleil
@123_Soleil 2 жыл бұрын
بارك الله فيكم.
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