Atheist LOSES his MIND in debate - Richard Dawkins vs Pell Part 1

[@dwtbrown]

Yeah, I watched the whole discussion/debate and Dawkins destroyed them.

[@revoreport]

How did you come to that conclusion?

[@RajeevSulochan]

Faith is irrational. You can not reason with the Faithful.

[@blupandax7902]

Being atheist requires faith too. Plenty of mysteries regarding evolution, plus there is zero evidence for abiogenesis.

[@drsatan9617]

​@@blupandax7902 lacking a belief in gods does not require any belief Mysteries in evolution are irrelevant and do nothing to undermine or refute what we do know. Same with abiogenesis just there's more mysteries there

[@blupandax7902]

@ Lack of belief in one thing requires belief in something else to replace it. For example, if I say “bakeries don’t exist”, then people will ask me the question “where does bread come from”. Since I don’t believe in bakeries, I need to provide an alternative explanation for why there is bread in my house. As for abiogenesis, our evidence for it is actually very low.

[@ffoxxyy48]

⁠if God created the world where there was nothing before it, that's abiogenesis.

[@davidbanner6230]

Nor, the stupid...and dishonest....

[@miguelferreira8422]

I bet the audience would cry at the awareness of Pell's actions.

[@prashant.D__]

Illiterate audience 😂

[@None-x4d6r]

"well nothing is something"

[@Shytot-1]

How can people have a robust dialogue about something that doesn't exist?

[@Randy-p2e7j]

Maybe it exists. Maybe you are wrong.

[@revoreport]

Maybe the reason why they're having it is because it DOES exist.

[@Shytot-1]

@@Randy-p2e7j I think you are using the word 'exist' incorrectly. Something existing only in your mind can not be said to 'exist' in reality. Do you find it strange that 99.9% of believers believe in the same religion as their parents? and it just so happens to be the one true religion. How lucky for them is that?

[@Randy-p2e7j]

@@Shytot-1 And I think you are full of baloney.

[@Shytot-1]

@@Randy-p2e7j Yes, of course you do, and I am happy with that. If believing gets you through the day, then don't stop believing.

[@miguelferreira8422]

Clickbait title. Were cardinal Pell's criminal activities informed by god? A video about that would be way more relevant

[@davidbanner6230]

Sounds like you are desperate @miguelferreira842.....or just another pathological liar.... Dawkins is speaking a truth about evolution yet refusing to face the reality the power of belief..... So sad and pathetic really.... because it exposes him as being dishonest .... This post has been tampered with, as is usual with the irrational scum who claim to be honest debaters, but liars are will always be liars....

[@myopenmind527]

Remember, never in the history of our species has any god ever been shown to be real.

[@lourak613]

in he end - Krauss actually admits that he believes the universe came from nothing>

[@Laxyr]

Dear Cardinal Pell, if this whole nonsense is actually true, please ask Satan for a day off, so you can come back and let everybody know.

[@revoreport]

That's terrifying if it's true.

[@Laxyr]

@@revoreport I agree, it is. Eternal torture for finite crimes is a deeply immoral concept (however heinous those crimes may have been).

[@revoreport]

It's not merely about 'torture' but separation from God, a choice one makes through life's rejection of love and goodness. The idea of justice isn't about the duration of the crime but its nature; some actions have profound, lasting consequences. Consider this: if someone commits a crime against an infinite being, doesn't the offense carry infinite weight? 🤔 Jesus teaches about forgiveness and redemption, offering a way out of this separation. Wouldn't you want to explore a God who offers both justice and mercy? May you find peace in Jesus, who provides a path away from eternal separation. 🙏✨ In Jesus' name, Amen.

[@Laxyr]

​@@revoreport Honestly, if I were you, I would not try to defend this morally bankrupt system. That system you are defending makes it such that unbaptized children go to hell, murderers who "find jesus" do not, because they are "redeemed", although their victim may burn in hell because they have not had a chance to find Jesus yet. That's exactly the reason why Ray Comfort makes up this whole nonsense about "everyone already knows god exists" to get around the fact that many people have not even heard of Jesus or your particular god. If they get killed by a believer, who is afterwards really really sorry about what they did, you get exactly the scenario I described: murderer goes to heaven, victim goes to hell for a "crime" they did not even know they could commit. Brilliant system that.

[@SR-ry6hs]

Here's a bunch more reasons to dislike Richard. He doesn't mirror my stance on many things. It's sad that a certain part of the population has adopted him as some kind of atheist speaker. He doesn't speak for me

[@agbinfo]

As all atheists, he speaks for himself alone. Not believing in gods is not a congregation. I'm an atheist as well. I don't agree with many things he says. It doesn't offend me that we don't agree on everything else.

[@revoreport]

We can agree on this lol

[@stephensharp3033]

If there are an infinite number of parallel universes does the Christian God exist in one?

[@drsatan9617]

He'll exist in many but so will other gods There'll also be a few universe's in which he was killed and his corpse was using as a sort of space boat

[@agbinfo]

Tl;dr Some people laughed because they didn’t realize that there are many levels of nothingness. Dawkins simply asked, "Why are you laughing?" as a rhetorical question as he tried to make them aware of that.

[@revoreport]

The laughter might have come from misunderstanding or from the surprise of such an abstract concept. 🤔 Isn't it fascinating how Dawkins challenges us to think beyond the surface? May you find wisdom in exploring these profound questions, perhaps even finding answers in the teachings of Jesus, who also spoke in ways that made people think deeply. 🙏

[@v0id616]

I remember this one. When Pell said "while we were preparing some English boys..." some of the audience laughed and booed. Bit of a foreshadowing to his arrest.

[@revoreport]

Interesting. I don’t know the full story, but I read Pell was acquitted?

[@v0id616]

@revoreview it's true, he was. I recall the court decided there's a chance he's innocent. Difficult to say for sure, knowing how prevalent the problem is, and how devoted the cover-ups etc are.

[@revoreport]

The cover-ups by the catholic church were really unfortunate. It's very sad...

[@v0id616]

@@revoreport it really is.

[@mikerivero]

I have deep respect for Richard Dawkins. He contests the beliefs through logic & science, but in the end, both science and religion are bound by the burden of evidence.

[@revoreport]

Respect for Dawkins is valid, but logic and science don't just challenge religion; they can support it too. Consider the fine-tuning of the universe, where the laws of physics are precisely set for life to exist-doesn't this suggest a Designer? 🤓🔬 Evidence in science like the Big Bang theory aligns with the Christian belief in a beginning from nothing. 🌟 Both science and faith seek truth, but only faith offers a personal relationship with the Truth. 🕊️ How can you ignore the evidence of a world designed with love when you're surrounded by it? 💕

[@davidbanner6230]

: People can deny the existence of a God all they like…. And it may not be possible to prove them wrong by the normal use of logic. Yet there is no way that the power of belief, in a God can be denied…? Yes, evolution created the natural world, but It cannot be denied that the form of that world, including natural selection, and survival of the fittest, was created by a faith, that a God existed…..

[@tomshields8411]

I deny that the form of that world, including natural selection, and survival of the fittest, was created by a faith, that a God existed… Now what?

[@drsatan9617]

Dave! It's been so long. I see you're still spewing easily refutable nonsense. You're consistent, I'll give ya that

[@davidbanner6230]

@@drsatan9617 : trying to give the impression that you never read what I am saying, when you process every word, don't you liar...??

[@revoreport]

I'm glad you're both able to reconnect again lol

[@SATheKulture]

But how free will exist when God knows everything?

[@revoreport]

Free will exists even with an omniscient God because God's knowledge doesn't compel our actions but coexists with our choices. Think of it like this: knowing the outcome of a movie doesn't mean you're controlling the characters' decisions. God, outside of time, sees our choices as a complete tapestry, yet each thread is laid by our own free will. Just as a parent might know their child will spill milk but doesn't force it, God knows our choices but doesn't dictate them. If you've ever chosen to forgive someone despite knowing the outcome, that's your free will in action. 🤔🙏❓ Why not consider that Jesus, who knew all outcomes, chose to offer us freedom through His sacrifice? Could this be your moment to choose Him? ✝️💖

[@marlonlo9661]

Looking at the wonders of the world, nature, as the glory of God? Does an animal eating another animal alive also shows the glory of God?

[@revoreport]

lol - the complexity and beauty of nature indeed reflect the glory of God through the lens of design and purpose, as articulated in the Psalms, where creation sings of His handiwork. However, the natural processes, including predation, are part of a fallen world, not a direct reflection of God's original intent or glory but rather the consequences of sin and the natural order post-Fall. This does not negate God's glory but rather highlights the need for redemption and restoration through Christ, which brings hope and meaning even to the suffering in nature. The predatory behavior in animals can be seen as part of the system designed for survival and balance, which, while harsh, maintains ecological harmony, showcasing a different aspect of divine wisdom. If we concede that a world with suffering exists, how does this challenge the existence of a benevolent God, and what does it say about the Christian narrative of redemption and the ultimate restoration of all things?

[@tonydarcy1606]

Too bad about the sermon at the end. Was Dawkins just clickbait to attract viewers ?

[@revoreport]

what's bad about sharing Jesus?

[@Laxyr]

@@revoreport Why would you need to share Jesus if, as some claim, Jesus is in everyone's heart already? Is it possibly because Jesus has promised to torture everyone - forever - who does not worship him? So we must fear Jesus, yet also love him. And the best thing is, you are supposed to take this on faith, even though there is no proof that Jesus was who everyone claims he was. What this myth does is give old white man authority over gullible people to tell them how they should lead the only existence that we know about. So, what's wrong with sharing Jesus? Not much, besides the motivation and the intention behind it.

[@revoreport]

Nobody is claiming Jesus is in every heart. He need to be invited. Perhaps you need to look deeper into what Christians actually believe? Maybe make a friend to clarify some of these false assumptions you're bringing to the table.

[@tonydarcy1606]

@@revoreport Jesus is supposed to be everywhere, but he's not in my heart and he's not in my garden shed ! Where do I send the invite to ? Please don't tell me that I should just accept what you say without question.

[@tonydarcy1606]

@@revoreport The sword, and the fiery lake don't exactly endear me to the guy. Oh and the splitting up of families, the killing of an innocent fig tree, and some pigs who had done nothing wrong. And how about the false promise to return within a generation. Plainly wrong.

[@zoinx8256]

Smooth brain religious people and video host