Ex Atheist SPEAKS OUT Ayaan Hirshi Ali - what she admits is shocking.

[@davidegt]

Ok, so you don't know the answer to the question. You can just say "I don't know" and move on before start making a point around it to seem like you are not dodging the question.

[@joem3686]

The narration is garbage and failure to provide a direct link to the full interview is appalling.

[@revoreport]

I pray you find Jesus. He has power to usher you through your anger management.

[@random_youtube_commenter]

You're literally adding nothing of value to the original video. @joem3686 is right

[@NoFace.Albion]

I think it's because he used AI. Getting a ChatGPT vibe from the intro.

[@bfarzady5212]

​@@revoreportNo anger in that comment. But a lot of unjustified sarcasm in yours. Very Christ-like on you. I heard when people complained about Christ's carpentry, he'd say "well, you've got problems. This is a perfectly crooked table."

[@revoreport]

@bfarzady5212 tbh I was sincere my comment. I've dealt with anger management myself and Jesus set me free.

[@TheOriginalTPro]

"Atheism denies a redemptive solution" Well, that's kind of a moot point, don't you think? When Atheism doesn't even have a concept of "Sin", then what would it need a redemptive solution for? That doesn't mean that these concepts are completely rejected though. We just don't view them as intrinsic aspects of all human life. You can screw up with your actions, and you can redeem yourself with your actions. But both are matters of personal responsibility. Nobody is born screwed up by default, and no one is preemptively being granted redemption before it has actually been earned.

[@revoreport]

So atheism doesn't consider good and evil? If there is no such thing as sin or wrong - then atheism already fails as a worldview in dealing with the dark side of humanity.

[@MrFireman164]

@@revoreport Seems every child I have ever seen born into this world was a blank slate, not necessarily good or evil, then humans step in with their programming that comes from the world, parents, their parents handing down stories, religion, ect… so what is evil ? Hurting each other physically, mentally and other ways… so as a blank slate we are programmed by those who are programmed, when the programming is flawed, say abuse, abandonment, ect… the child is damaged, and the trauma that was inflicted on them gets repeated by them to others and even their children, so evil is a product of poor programming into the psyche of children. There is no devil 👿 running around causing people to unalive each other it’s trauma and mental health issues causing the evil in the world, it’s us, not god, not devil, people love to blame the devil 😂.. poor devil 👿. The change comes when we figure out what is going on inside ourselves “know thyself” what triggers us and causes us to react certain ways, usually you can trace it back to something bad or that you perceived to be bad as a child that you carry into adulthood. This has nothing to do with divine beings and everything to do with the human condition. Now when you see it this way you can look at anyone who is acting like an ass or that you may even consider “evil” and have compassion for them, not to condone what they do or how they act but compassion that they likely went through a rough childhood, bullied, weren’t given the tools necessary to deal with the stresses life brings, these are things that are taught, learned, programmed. We are fragile beings that put on mask to protect ourselves from harm, deep inside we are all vulnerable scared children who just want to be loved and accepted for who we are.

[@TheOriginalTPro]

@@revoreport That's not what I said. Atheism doesn't consider all people to be inherently tainted with evil by default (i.e. Original Sin). People can still do evil things, but that's then their own responsibility and not because they were born with some hereditary "sinful nature". Therefore redemption is not needed for everyone by default. Only when someone has hurt others with his misbehavior is there even anything to redeem himself from at all. But redemption is not always handed out for free to anyone who feels bad about it and repents. Some wrongdoings won't be forgiven without a genuine and significant redeeming deed that serves as proof of his good moral character.

[@bfarzady5212]

@@revoreport Why would atheism imply there is no good or evil? You are just an idiot. Suffering is evil. Genocide is evil. God, if one exists, allowed for a lot of this - not just to humans, but also animals before humans ever existed. God is either evil or not all powerful. God does not exist.

[@dannygolightly865]

also SIN is a man-made idea, what we consider sin, others simply would not. slavery is sinful...except not according to the bible, eating shellfish is a sin except that rule is ignored, wearing two kinds of cloth? SINFUL (look in the bible if you doubt it). it would be sinful to us to have sexual relations with the under-aged...but thart is not universal, and it has certainly changed over time. there is no SIN per se, there are only things that at some stage in history were/are not acceptable to SOCIETY (for it is societies and their inhabitants that make the rules...not anything supernatural). inheriting sin...utter madness and abuse...you can not inherit your borebears actions or thoughts. evolution simply doesn't work that way.

[@wadedavies3924]

Thanks for hosting this brilliant discussion but the first image that I find particularly striking is the floor covering layout of their studio set. The Masonic checkerboard of black and white, foundational reminders for the initiates and increasingly used to undermine believers daily struggle to separate good and evil.

[@revoreport]

Thank you for your insightful contribution to the discussion. May you be blessed in Jesus' name with discernment and wisdom to navigate the complexities of spiritual symbolism around us. Where are you from?

[@wadedavies3924]

@@revoreport you want a generalization or my precise location?

[@revoreport]

generalization is good :) probably not safe to share precise locations publicly right

[@jimscott9974]

Nothing Ayaan says is shocking. She came to Christianity only as an emotional response to trauma, fear, and insecurity in her life, and not because of any evidence for the truth of its claims. While she claims there is evidence, she does so only to justify her "conversion" as rational, rather than as emotional.

[@revoreport]

Is that what she told you? Lol

[@dannygolightly865]

​@@revoreport ...she just made it clear in her interview

[@jimscott9974]

@@revoreport I have listened to several of her interviews, and read her original "conversion" letter in which she clearly implies as much.

[@revoreport]

Seems her conversation was both rational, intellectual as well as emotional.

[@jimscott9974]

@@revoreport I would strongly disagree, but you certainly have a right to your own opinion.

[@pat6289]

Atheism is a form of intellectual pride in one's own character or in Science, even though religious philosophy gave rise to science and CAtholism gave rise to the peace and security to practice

[@davidegt]

at what price though

[@whygodisscience]

You can blame religion for atheism. Religion drives people away from god because it holds on to untrue dogma and portrays God as someone that doesn’t deserve worship

[@bfarzady5212]

This is just made up. Science rose in spite of Christianity. Christians have burned people at the stake who disagree with church dogma.

[@TheOriginalTPro]

I take no pride (or shame for that matter) in my disbelief in the existence of any God. I'm simply just not convinced that it's true and that's already the whole f'ing deal about it. I don't want a medal or even a pat on the back for it. It doesn't make me any more or less intelligent, moral or wise than anyone else. However, I also don't need any self-declared atheism-expert explaining how my atheism is supposedly makes me feel about myself. I'd kindly suggest that if you're not an atheist yourself, then you're probably not the most qualified person to speak about the psychological meaning of atheism.

[@jimscott9974]

Quite the contrary. Atheism is a form of humility where one admits to their ignorance, while religion is the highest form of arrogance in claiming certainty where none can be demonstrated.

[@SATheKulture]

I think all atheists are different, some think reality will be better without religion and some of us we thank religion for taming a lot of people because honestly people are evil but with the help religions people face their inner beasts. There's a lot you may think you know about atheism but maybe you're wrong. Ask me and I'll respond honestly.

[@mrshankerbillletmein491]

Lost count of how many times I have been told atheism is a lack of belief due to no evidence. That it makes no claims in reality they do make claims and write big selling books filled with claims, such as belief in God is a deluson, that matter and energy is all there is. It seems to me the atheist believes many things by faith in the absence of certain knowledge.

[@revoreport]

Thanks for sharing. Please tell us more 🙏🏼🫶🏼

[@whygodisscience]

@@mrshankerbillletmein491one important fact that shows an atheist world view takes faith (in fact more than a belief in god). Is the fact that the universe is fine tuned. We have a universe that we all agree is fine tuned. Atheist say it only appears fine tuned because there is a multiverse where there are trillions of other universes and every possible tuning is being played out giving the appearance of design. Ok then, can I please have the evidence for your trillions of universes? This is a very important point that’s never mentioned even when people are presenting the fine tuning problem as proof of god. The point is they know they need these universes to explain away the design, but they need faith that they exist

[@bfarzady5212]

It's almost like atheism is not a set of unjustified beliefs and atheists are free to think for themselves.

[@bfarzady5212]

​@@mrshankerbillletmein491Not having certain knowledge does not mean faith is therefore required. Science does not produce certain knowledge. It just provides the most justified version of reality possible. And you can oppose it and that is part of science. Religion is dogma. Unjustified beliefs and faith at its core. Most atheists do not write books about atheism. Some do. This is part of the multifarious types of rational humans that exists. Theists read one book. They are stupid.

[@roganroberts8789]

The entire premise is malformed.... There can't be a darker side to atheism, any more than there can be a darker side of not believing in UFO's, astrology, crystals or any other non-event. Not collecting stamps isn't a hobby and not playing football isn't a sport.... There can be a darker side to everything, but it can't be specific to the absence of an idea.

[@revoreport]

So you’re discounting her entire experience as an atheist?

[@whygodisscience]

There is a dark side to atheism. When talking about the “apparent” lack of evidence for God, Carl Sagan once said “if we crave a cosmic purpose, we must find ourselves a worthy goal”. The problem is, there is no worthy goal! Without a higher spiritual purpose, there is nothing that makes the suffering “worth it”. This is why we are in an epidemic of worthlessness, misery and hopelessness on an industrial scale.

[@whygodisscience]

How can you say there’s no dark side of atheism (even if you’re an atheist). Believing that you’re just a bag of meat with eyes, and everyone you love is going to die and nothing they or you ever did ever really meant anything. I’d say that’s a dark side lol

[@roganroberts8789]

@@revoreport No. Just stating there's no real dark side to atheism per se - at least not by itself. I guess it can lead to anything, as can being a theist.... It's a moot point.

[@roganroberts8789]

@whygodisscience Well, maybe that's the reality of the universe. No one said we have to like the truth. But what meaning is there in assuming there must be purpose? You're just putting another mystery onto an existing mystery....If God explained the reason to you, then you'd have some kind of starting point, but just an unspecific spiritual purpose, doesn't really add much.... to me.

[@CherubEros]

What Christians don’t know is that Jesus returned in 66 AD and destroyed Babylon in 70 AD. Satan was destroyed, as said in Revelation, so no one is born nor judged for sin. We’re judged for evil, and is something you already know, which is the golden rule.

[@revoreport]

What? lol where do you get this from

[@CherubEros]

@ in Babylon was found the blood of all the prophets. Jesus tells you that a prophet cannot die outside of Jerusalem. Read what Jesus says with audience relevance.

[@dannygolightly865]

so, are you not a christian then? if you are, you can not know about the claim you make

[@revoreport]

not sure exactly what you're talking about... The assertion that Jesus said a prophet cannot die outside of Jerusalem is not found in the Bible; rather, in Matthew 23:37, Jesus laments over Jerusalem for killing the prophets sent to it, indicating a historical pattern rather than a geographical restriction on where prophets can die. Historical and archaeological evidence from Babylon shows that prophets and other religious figures were indeed persecuted or killed there, consistent with broader biblical narratives of the diaspora and persecution of God's messengers outside of Jerusalem. Furthermore, understanding Jesus' statements with audience relevance does not necessitate interpreting His words as limiting prophetic deaths to Jerusalem alone, but rather as a critique focused on Jerusalem's role in rejecting God's messengers. If Jesus' statement about Jerusalem was meant to be taken as an absolute rule, how do you reconcile this with the clear biblical and historical accounts of prophets facing persecution and death in places like Babylon, Egypt, and other regions far from Jerusalem?

[@CherubEros]

@ far be it for me to disagree with Jesus, whom God sent and told us to listen to, when he said “from the blood of Abel to Zechariah”, but this is mostly for the prophets that were sent into Jerusalem, as the parable in Matthew 21:33-41 says. Nonetheless, Revelation was speaking about the siege of Jerusalem and not a future event; but future in their time indeed. Learn more from Derich Jester on KZbin.

[@BaileyZLeone]

Why has no one talked about the archeological evidence. First hand written account by people of the past. I refuse to blindly believe.

[@revoreport]

There’s a lot of archeological evidence. I’ll be doing a few upcoming videos on it.

[@bfarzady5212]

Because it doesn't exist maybe?

[@den8863]

The sacrifice is God becoming a man in order to bring the good news knowing that the world will hate and kill him. But he has to do it in order to save it.

[@dannygolightly865]

utter nonsense, do the people's of the amazon need this to happen? did it change their lives? of course not. only those whose lives have been ruined by religion, are affected by this bilge

[@jimscott9974]

Yes, it's an outdated superstition.

[@revoreport]

what is?

[@jimscott9974]

@@revoreport Early in the video you asked if belief in "God" was an outdated superstition... so I answered you.

[@revoreport]

I disagree hehe :) happy new year

[@jimscott9974]

@@revoreport I wish you well.