Atheists’ (Subtle) Strategy to ATTACK Christianity | Ken Ham

This is an atheist’s (subtle) strategy to ATTACK Christianity and the Bible. In this presentation, Ken Ham discusses secularists’ indirect plan to invalidate the entire biblical worldview and the importance of standing on the truth of God’s Word.
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[@justinlowder2173]

Thank The Lord for this ministry.

[@ancataut7891]

Are you thanking him for brainwashing you?! Do you really not realize what this individual is doing to your mind??

[@markusklyver6277]

Young Earth creationists will be like "Don't listen to the doctrines and traditions of men!" while they insist you listen to the doctrines and traditions of themselves, who are men.

[@robertseavor4304]

​@@markusklyver6277They are the words of God, not opinionated idiots who do not *want* there to be a God because they resent the idea of being judged by a superior power.

[@DamnedSilly]

Oh, yes. Thank God for the lies. Please, lie to me more.

[@robertseavor4304]

@@DamnedSilly You are having a psychotic episode.

[@nanettebates6864]

Love your sermons in deep detail of explaining God’s word and the false gospel of fake teaching in these religious people. Thank you for sharing truth giving us understanding and knowledge of truth in God’s beginnings of creation and life.

[@ancataut7891]

Do I really need to explain that what this individual is doing is called "brainwashing"???

[@peterwiebewall5608]

Greetings dearly beloved in the name of Jesus Christ our Saviour and Lord❤✝️🔥, from pastor Peter Wiebe Wall, Alberta Canada 🇨🇦.

[@morganmorales610]

Hey I follow your answer 11 in Canadian. I like him he's very good too

[@peterwiebewall5608]

@@morganmorales610 I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying Morgan Morales.

[@felipekennedy3135]

Greetings friend from Brazil.

[@morganmorales610]

I follow the guy on answers 11 in Canada just like the guy here from the United States so does answer Genesis and Canada just like the one in the United States

[@Juliang61]

Insightful and truth!!!! Thanks Ken

[@ancataut7891]

Brainwashing...you have tail bone, wake up to reality!

[@mycabbages3538]

Death before sin is a heresy.

[@Feraeond]

I asked a liberal theologian how he reconciles Romans 5's mention of the sin/death through Adam issue and he explained an interpretation of the Genesis curse as merely a spiritual death, not what caused physical death. My retort then led him into the weeds of explaining a kind of booster shot theory of how regularly partaking of the tree of life was the only thing keeping Adam and Eve miraculously immortal until they were kicked out of the garden and halted from eating it ever again. I'm amazed at the theological acrobatics people rejecting the plain interpretations of Genesis are willing to go through in order to keep their evolutionary Asherim intact on the metaphorical mountain tops of what beliefs they most revere.

[@jodyel]

@@Feraeond They were evicted from the Garden BEFORE they ever ate of the tree of life. Genesis 3:22-23, And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.

[@kellyanne7225]

@@jodyelSeriously? 🤦‍♀️

[@jodyel]

@@kellyanne7225 Can you not read the Scripture I posted? What does it say?

[@kellyanne7225]

@@jodyel You cherry picked a verse, out of context, and put your meaning to it. You deliberately refused to read the rest, AND you’re recording what Satan said. Who is the author of lies and twisted scripture? This verse does not say they were evicted from the garden before they sinned. Can YOU read scripture, is the question?

[@eunicefries588]

Praise the Lord for Answers in Genesis!

[@Moist._Robot]

Why? This is misinformation.

[@calebjames7444]

I'm teaching a youth group class in the summer on these same issues! I have believed for a long time that the world of unbelievers have had their way with poisoning young minds with a government funded religion of science. Your last point is exactly the point of the entire class. Now I have a better way to explain it, thanks to you. Thank you, Ken, for speaking boldly about the power of truth and the power of the Word.

[@sandyrandall3544]

Thank you for giving truth for our youth!

[@markduell2468]

"government funded religion of science"? Science is taught because it is based on observable facts.

[@Feraeond]

@markduell2468 Yes, I disagree with the word choice of the poster here. Naturalism is not a scientific religion based on observable facts.

[@calebjames7444]

@@markduell2468 explain what is taught in our high schools. Macroevolution is in those textbooks. There is no observational fact that it exists. That high school receives its funding from our government. I'm not sure why there is any confusion based upon my comment.

[@calebjames7444]

@@Feraeond perhaps I should have worded it like this: "government funded lies masquerading as science."

[@grea8hall88]

Well said Ken, Gods word is ALWAYS the final authority! Trust God, not man.

[@nathancook2852]

Men wrote the Bible. If they were inspired, it was because they partook of something...

[@shinnstoneer7]

Praise God! I'm Thankful for all involved with the works at AIG that support God's Word.

[@TickedOffPriest]

You guys inspired me to start my own ministry.

[@Orpheus_x]

I guess the Bible wasn’t inspiring enough for you.

[@DamnedSilly]

Good call. There's a lot of money to be made for people without scruples. Ken's proved that.

[@TickedOffPriest]

@@DamnedSilly That is a serious accusation.

[@VirginaLawton]

Thank you from Australia

[@rochellecaffee1417]

Isaiah 55:1 Good Biblical “nourishment” is very hard to find at this time, in our world. Thank you for speaking to this problem, Ken Ham!!

[@timothyfox6807]

Amen

[@lillyanna8432]

brilliant as always.

[@barbaraedgley2634]

As Paul wrote 2,000 years ago: "in fact, all who will live a godly life in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" 2 Timothy 3:12 & we see this happening today worldwide. Dear Ken Ham cwrtainly faces much persecution online. God bless him!

[@j.bergland6887]

❤❤❤❤❤ Amen

[@thomasforsyth8329]

Thank you Ken for this presentation.

[@helbitkelbit1790]

The only thing he presented , was his ignorance.....

[@JungleJargon]

Very good presentation.

[@juansebastianmottaperdomo7428]

Thank you so much for the video

[@maureenparran8918]

Excellent, thank you

[@LeatherHomestead-io8dt]

Good!!!

[@michaelbrennan6648]

Thank you, Ken! I would rather listen to Ken than most pastors.

[@brendaduncan4347]

What an excellent sermon!

[@des711]

❤ I enjoyed this lecture. I have a better understanding how people can interpret scientific findings differently. People can easily be biased. Thank GOD for His word to teach us the truth.

[@MikeKnox-dl4gr]

I may be missing something, this could be a stupid question but I've never heard of man being found in the fossil records from the time of the flood.

[@therick363]

Not a stupid question at all. You would spot on we’ve never found humans with things far down

[@ruthiebowes2518]

Lord bless and protect this ministry 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼

[@DamnedSilly]

...and keep it tax free so they can buy another jet.

[@ruthiebowes2518]

@@DamnedSilly OK don’t think he has one of those but nice try. And they pay more than their fair share in taxes.👍🏻 Ken ham is a good man good to his wife ,good to his family ,and good to others so don’t know why you’re so full of hate.

[@DamnedSilly]

@@ruthiebowes2518 Heh. He pays taxes. Right. You know he's a preacher, right? They don't pay taxes. Neither does his organization. There's no law that would force him or them to disclose ownership or leasing of an aircraft. Also, you talk about him like you know him (good to his wife, good to his family) and I'll bet you have zero personal knowledge to back up that claim. You _believe_ he's like that, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me, but that doesn't mean he's telling the truth or that he's right. Hitler was probably nice to his mother...

[@kaynolte5415]

We are bleeding children at a rate that all Bible-believing churches should be on red alert, yet so many continue to feed their kids to the secular educational system and then wonder why they come out Romans (unbelievers). Am I the only one who feels like I'm banging my head against the wall, trying to get elders to see how crucial this is to 1) safeguard the kids God gave us to protect and instruct and 2) educate the flock on the evidences that support the Bible? God help us. It seems like most of us are asleep at the wheel.

[@nathancook2852]

Most of you are asleep at the wheel.

[@robertmcclintock8701]

( *ﾟAﾟ) This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.

[@jacob.tudragens]

If you don't believe God in Genesis, how can you say you believe in God? God was very specific in the first few verses of Genesis! Even Jesus said that the universe and everything in it was created in 6 days! It is dangerous to call God a liar.

[@jstube36]

Then maybe it's the writers of the story that should be considered. Maybe they missed something. Maybe their sources are faulty or questionable at best. That's why we have to ask questions. Did God really say this or that? Did things really happened as the Ancient writing describes? Or is there a more real story that hasn't been told yet?

[@helbitkelbit1790]

One year with man is a thousand to God......find that one

[@andrevisser7542]

A day in the creation story can also be a period of time, we still live in the seventh day...

[@jacob.tudragens]

@@helbitkelbit1790 That simply means that God is not limited by time!

[@jstube36]

@@andrevisser7542 Exodus 20:11 ".. in six days God created.. then rested on the seventh" That indicates it was an actual six-day creation. So if God did not create everything in just six days, what does that mean for the Sabbath Commandment? Does it become null and void? Is it an error on whoever wrote that? Or a better question: Who actually wrote those Commandments?

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

100%

[@ancataut7891]

100% brainwashing.....

[@edaguirre8952]

It says in Genesis 1:2 that the earth was here BEFORE the six days of creation ON the earth's surface. There were six days of creation 7,000 years ago, but the foundation is described in Job 38 as having been here BEFORE. It is a whopping 150 billion years old.

[@rogers531]

Australia 🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘 Hi ken. I'm a 51 model like you. Thank you for taking up the Battle against such ignorance that's going on at this time before Our Lord Jesus comes back it's going to happen very quick , I'm A mazed at your messages. God bless brother. I'm keeping my eyes open.

[@felipekennedy3135]

The Truth, Thank God.

[@MRCATWRENCH]

Ken admits at the 2:00 mark that he will never question the authority of the Bible, even if someone shows him irrefutable evidence in contradiction of it. Ken tries to make the world around him fit inside his preconceived worldview instead of examining the world around him and making his world view fit it.

[@realPenrodPooch]

No. He did not say that. He said he will never question the authority of the Bible. He never said anything about irrefutable evidence. And I don't expect him to, as there has never been a case of any being presented that flies in the face of Scripture.

[@weslieonsando1124]

16:30 was the key for me. The author of life would not use death and violence to create. It makes no sense.

[@nathancook2852]

No, just to scare people into worship. That is much more normal.

[@FranzBazar]

Ken Ham is Always so Profound with his talks, absolutely wonderful. This Catholic was very sad we missed Mr. Ham when I took my whole family out to Kentucky a couple years ago to visit the Ark Encounter and the Creation Museum. SO wish we could have heard him speak Live when we were there! BTW for all Christians, if you have Not visited the Ark Encounter and the Creation Museum *Do Yourself A Favor* and Go There! My 3 young kids Still talk about that trip several years later.

[@nathancook2852]

Profoundly inaccurate. Just like the Ark encounter.

[@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n]

Question for old earth Christians. If sin, death, devastation, illness, cancer, (which shows in fossils) all happened before man. Then what is the point of one man dying on a cross for the sin of man. By excepting man's word and an old earth you negate the reason for the cross. Man could not be responsible for the sin, death and destruction, as it was already there, when he arrived, so we do not need Jesus to save us from sin. We didn't do it. Some say It is not a salvation issue. I don't know. I'll leave that to God, and believe in His Word.

[@thebludragonfly68]

Isn't that the whole purpose of the old earth theory? To destroy what the Bible says and thusly destroy and do away with Yeshua/Jesus and what He did?

[@christophercoupe5006]

Excellent points you make and how subtly evolution denies the need for the cross!

[@jstube36]

@@christophercoupe5006 Evolution does not confirm nor deny the possibility of a creative source. It simply does not name that source. Which still could be anyone or anything.

[@Feraeond]

@jstube36 How do you know it could be anyone or anything? Are you saying the creative source could be you? If so, what are you doing in a comment section?! Shouldn't you be spending every second of your focus figuring out for sure if you in fact carry the responsibility of being the creative source of everything?

[@jstube36]

@@Feraeond Well since I was not alive some 4.5 billion years ago, that would rule me out as a creative source. Find the source or sources that made the necessary elements for life to be possible, for the Earth to be formed, for the Universe to expand, and that is your creator or creators. And since there is no definitive conclusion about the indentity of that source, it remains a mystery.

[@mintmag8748]

Why are the dislikes disabled?

[@Bezanie]

I'm only 3 minutes in the video. But I'm curious about something. I was reading Genesis Chapter 5. And it was talking about the ages of Adam and his descendants, how long they lived till they died. I was counting as I read. With all the years that go by in the Bible, shouldn't the Earth be at least between 8,000 to 15,000 years old by now? When I was a kid, I used to believe the Earth was 6000 years old. I'm just curious, from the timeline from Genesis to now, what would be the best hypothesis of the Earth's age? (Sorry, none of my friends or family are interested in these types of conversations, and Google certainly doesn't help! 😅)

[@kevinrtres]

Many people have done in depth study of exactly those genealogies and kingdoms and they got to around 6000+ years. Isaac Newton wrote a book about his calculations. Check it out.

[@christophercoupe5006]

Well if you read the genealogy in the bible correctly it's about 2000 yrs from Adam to Abraham ( using Genesis 5 & 11), 2000 yrs from Abraham to Jesus (according to historians Moses was born about 2000 BC). Jesus was 2000 yrs ago so that's about 6000 yrs.

[@Feraeond]

Remember to account for the generational overlaps that start when the progeny are first born. Adam was only 130 when he fathered Seth. Although he lived 930 total years, only 130 of that were as an offset prior to the time Seth lived. Does that explanation resolve the conundrum for you?

[@Bezanie]

@@Feraeond I didn't really think about that. So yeah, it helps.

[@Feraeond]

Awesome! You might also be interested to look into the fact that the Masoretic text which all the modern translations of the Bible still rely on drops a 1 at the beginning of the listed ages between Noah and Abraham when those men fathered their sons. The Septuagint, Samaritan Pentateuch, and Dead Sea Scrolls have them all being over 100 with that 1 added, thereby increasing the years to a more believable extent for when the repopulating of the world went from Noah's 8 to the Tower of Babel's number that divided up into all the different original languages. The likely reason the Masoretic drops those 1's in the ages of fatherhood is so as to discredit the Hebrews claim that Jesus is a rightful priest in the order if Melchizedek. A circulated myth in Jewish lore that cropped up to defy that claim in Hebrews was to suppose that Melchizedek was in fact Shem, the son of Noah who is a forebear in the line of Levitical priests. But the only way Shem could have lived long enough to interact with Abraham as Melchizedek is in the Masoretic version of the Noah to Abraham genealogy that shortens by dropping those 1's. The fact that Josephus, the Septuagint, and the Samaritan Pentateuch all agree with the longer genealogy and predate the oldest Masoretic copy by a millennium or more has me at this point convinced that prevailing Biblical chronology models are still several centuries shy of the total length of years since Adam. Never stop being curious, sister! Blessings and peace to you always.

[@haroldbertrand852]

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

[@thecrew777]

So well said and in a ridiculously short time too. This isn't rocket science, folks. Anyone can see the truth and clarity here. Thank you, Mr. Ham.

[@Moist._Robot]

It’s laughable disinformation.

[@captivedesk3168]

It isnt science at all its lunatic ramblings

[@Moist._Robot]

It’s not rocket science. It’s Button Moon rocket science.

[@Terrylb285]

Ken Ham is good at scaring Christians into believing only his interpretation of genesis. I am a former YEC now OEC, based on the Bible ,and science

[@randyd9805]

People like you are so funny. That presentation didn't scare me even a little bit because it's based on the literal interpretation of Genesis that I have believed since I first read the Bible back in 1977 after I was born again. I have no idea what YEC or OEC is but if you teach anything other than a literal interpretation of creation being 6 literal 24-hour periods followed by 1 day of rest you're wrong. You either believe what the Bible clearly states or you don't. When science contradicts the Bible it is bad science or as in evolution it isn't science at all, but a major lie of Satan.

[@jige1225]

@@randyd9805 😂😂😂 Your are misled, too focused on the material side and not enough on the spiritual.

[@jmy6050]

Not scaring but informing. Many Christians have little knowledge of the Creation account.

[@randyd9805]

@@jige1225 I have no idea what you mean and for that matter, neither do you.

[@Terrylb285]

@@jmy6050 exactly I used to be young earth creationist until I deeply studied the scriptures . Under Ken Ham you’re only allowed to read one book on creation . But there’s 66 books in the Bible

[@robertnawalowalo2909]

Thanks from NZ Ken, much like the Word of God, your message hasn't changed in decades. Both are outlasting the ever-changing evolutionary theories!

[@McLovin_2007]

One of the many things that interests me about the Bible is when God put Adam to sleep before taking his rib out. It wasn't until the 19th century when doctors started putting patients to sleep before surgery. God is all-knowing.

[@nathancook2852]

Even ancient story book writers knew it would hurt ot have a rib removed.

[@McLovin_2007]

@@nathancook2852 But they didn't put people to sleep for surgery until the 19th century.

[@stevenspeakman5363]

Most atheists are not attacking Christianity. They are merely expressing an alternative view of the world. Sometimes with the same vehemence as Mr Ham. In my experience atheists just want to live their best lives without being preached to. Live and let live. You go your way and we'll go ours.

[@andrevisser7542]

Wonder why we find them so much on Christian channels...

[@kellyanne7225]

Then stop trolling and starting arguments with Christians on Christian sites. 😂 Sorry, but I’m seeing evidence of just the opposite of this. It’s Biblical too that the world will hate Christians because of Christ. Creation has everything to do with Christ.

[@therick363]

@@andrevisser7542could be because Christian channels keep talking about atheism and science and misrepresenting them…..

[@andrevisser7542]

@@therick363, I see so atheists can talk about their religion where they are their own god but doesn't want Christians to talk about our Creator, then they want to be left alone.

[@therick363]

@@andrevisser7542 what? Thats not what I said at all

[@eduardschnakenfuss9411]

Thank you very much, Mr. Ham! I wish, in Germany we would have such clear and intelligible presentations in our language too. Ok... we have "Wort und Wissen e.V.", but their presentations are to high scientific. I do not understand most of it. So, I like the way, Mr. Ham explains these facts so understandable. God bless you and "Answers in Genesis".

[@kevinrtres]

Germany about to fall off the cliff, that's for sure. Very rare to find people professing to be Christian these days - and even rarer to find those who believe the creation story as clearly and simply written in the bible.

[@Iccdoc]

True.

[@christophesutter1844]

Alléluia 🔥💜🔥

[@andrewgraham7659]

6000 years old is a long period of time.

[@nathancook2852]

Not as long as 4.5 Billion

[@terrieormonde2340]

In the last days there will be many that fall away, reject God, their hearts are hardened and if they keep rejecting Him, God gives them over to their delusions and reprobate minds. Do not fall, stay the course!

[@DamnedSilly]

Yep, and according to the book they will fall for false prophets... like Ken.

[@dansaber5853]

Ken Ham is a kind of Don Quixote Oedipus Rex

[@4ljc433]

We live in an Evil World.

[@roydodds3693]

To be fair, Atheists don't just dismiss Christianity, we're actually very fair minded and dismiss all religions that rely on one or more gods, for the simple reason that we have not seen any evidence to support their existence. Sooooo, without a god, there can't really be a biblical worldview....not an attack as such, just logical consequence.

[@allysondoerfler8688]

What part of there was evening and there was morning that is so hard to understand?

[@williamgreenfield9991]

How did they know what a "morning" or an "evening" was if the Sun hadn't been created yet?

[@JonnyCool1.5]

Dr Ham gets cooler looking as time goes on.

[@silassebastian3432]

Yes. I stand only on holy scripture

[@kellyanne7225]

Amen! 😊

[@DamnedSilly]

I thought you were supposed to read it, not use it to reach the top shelf.

[@Oandad]

It appears I'm blocked on this channel.

[@jeffd8597]

if they don’t believe in God, why do they keep talking about it just shut up and walk away. Let us believe in God and leave us alone.

[@nathancook2852]

You can believe in whatever god you like. That doesn't bother me one bit. But when you tube channels start denying science and try to teach others to deny science, well, that is a problem.

[@us3rG]

Misery loves company

[@us3rG]

​@@nathancook2852science is supposed to be challenged and if that bothers you that's a you problem

[@McLovin_2007]

Everyone should watch the video called "Dawkins proves intelligent design in 5 minutes". Pretty eye opening.

[@nathancook2852]

For those with no science knowledge at all.

[@McLovin_2007]

@@nathancook2852 Dawkins admits things that destroy his own beliefs. Open your mind.

[@HellNoMoreBiden]

It takes five verses to explain the first day to where light was created. For me it's not saying a day was 24 when everything is coming together. Sun, moon and the earth and constellations. God doesn't tell us about dinosaurs yet I think they could be demons outside of the Garden of Eden. We won't be judged from something we're trying to look at clearly. I heard of soft tissue from a dinosaur being found. It can't be either real or of that time frame.

[@user-nj8dy9ie3n]

He devil himself use the fible minded to confuse them ,they're the seeds out of safe grounds

[@walterdaems57]

If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence

[@HillSummitHomestead]

One way to find out & as things stand, we'll all have our moment of Truth. Til then, we can pretend to be gods as much as we want, but not for as long as we want to.

[@walterdaems57]

@@HillSummitHomestead not believing in god(s) doesn’t turn me into a god. Believing in a god makes you a believer. And a believer in god(s) differs in nothing from a middle aged women who is convinced that her Nigerian love scammer is a CEO, Captain or member of the special forces even when she’s bombarded with facts. Once you believe, all rationality flys out of the window, heading straight for the cuckoo’s nest :)

[@HillSummitHomestead]

@@walterdaems57 Doesn't change my answer, nor it's truth.

[@HellNoMoreBiden]

Satan put out of God's Heaven wants it hidden that God exists. After eating the fruit we received knowledge being used against us right now. This is in the spiritual world where to be separated from God is cruel. You can't see it but you will die twice if you can't accept Jesus died for this reason for us.

[@cultdoctor100]

Why do they bother if it's not true? because they know it is

[@WORDversesWORLD]

People believing the Word of God comes from a book is the attack on our faith. Well attack on those that believe the lie that the Word comes from a book that is.

[@HillSummitHomestead]

To quote a man that added a word to The Word is not very convincing.

[@runeaanderaa6840]

There are layers mile thick with rock salt down in the sedimentary rocks layers. Has Ham included this? And, how did all this rock salt precipitate out in Noah's flood? Maybe Ham is lying.

[@Terrylb285]

I don’t think he is deliberately lying, I think he’s truly convinced that he is not wrong no matter what. But I think he is wrong .

[@runeaanderaa6840]

@Terrylb285 Maybe he is not lying when he says he believes there is a God, but I am very sure that he knows he is deceiving his audience about the sea-salt-65-million-years dating method. He knows that there are thousands of salt deposits within sedimentary rock layers all over the world. He knows that the old-earth model can easily explain this as part of the ocean has been closed off and dried up, leaving salt deposits at the bottom. See the "Messinian Salinity Crisis." He probably also knows that most of the salt in rivers comes from sea-water mist that is blown in from the ocean. Still, he deceives his sheeple by presenting this as a problem for the old-earth model.

[@ClaudioIbarra]

All of the dating methods have a tolerance range. That's not the same thing as infallibility. The Potassium-Argon study was a nice touch, though. Why not say _who_ did the study? Who published the study?

[@Feraeond]

All of the rock dating methods rely on the assumption of a daughter isotope baseline in order to deliver millions of years. All of them. I'd be interested to have anyone show a single example of a radiometric test that allowed for the possibility that there were already daughter isotopes present at the time of metamorphosis. The reason I can assure you such an allowance doesn't exist is because that likely reality nullifies the entire premise of decay as a dependable clock. If you want to say a clock reading 12:00 ticked for 6 hours to get there, you have to start with the assumption that it began ticking at the 6:00 mark. As opposed to allowing for the assumption that the clock was already set at 12:00 and has not started ticking at all, or perhaps started at another time and there is no knowing how long it ticked. The testing done at Geocron Labs in Massachusetts or anywhere else could all be cited for using these assumptions. It isn't even a contested matter.

[@ClaudioIbarra]

@@Feraeond the clock analogy is flawed, but a good attempt. How would daughter isotopes exist without decay? Also, multiple dating methods back each other up. Find a peer reviewed study that shows otherwise!

[@Feraeond]

If you consider the clock analogy flawed, then we likely don't embrace the same terms of logic and this conversation is futile. These comments sections delete any attempt to provide links or citations, I have already experienced, so what you are asking to be provided is not seemingly feasible here and you'll need to do your own research. But as the clip mentions, nine out of ten dating methods don't back up millions of years that the cherry picked one in ten methods deliver. And as to how daughter isotopes already exist at the time of cooling, that is patently obvious when the Mt. St. Helens eruption's lava dome rock is put through blind tests and already contains supposedly millions of years' worth of daughter isotopes on what only cooled in our lifetime. Same with any rock tested with a known age of cooling. The prevailing explanation for these is that until the rock has been cooled for long enough, it won't deliver accurate results when tested...right...

[@Feraeond]

You're absolutely right. There is no way a global consensus group could ever prevent any contrary publications or studies about heliocentricity or MRNA tech or something from mainstream examination. The Institute For Creation Research, entirely independent of and predating Ken Ham, is all a bunch of hacks with personal bias and the atheism peer group is entirely objective.

[@beestoe993]

"Tolerance range"? They are flawed at the core. If they cannot be successfully applied to rocks of a known age then there is no absolute foundation to formulate a conclusion with. Instead the missing "Y" elements are summarily filled in with the holy Billions of years agenda. And this fundamental flaw is painfully obvious in the documented inconsistencies that are, rather than acknowledged, IGNORED AND DISCARDED! It is a dishonest system perpetuated by dishonest people.

[@peterwiebewall5608]

Get the Bible back into the schools? No, get Christian children to of state run schools.

[@Nils-gi5bv]

There are good reasons for the separation of state and religion. Your state founders already knew this and wrote it into your constitution.

[@markduell2468]

The absolute last thing we need is the Bible in schools.

[@InGodsTime24]

​@@markduell2468Yes because since the Bible was removed from schools things have gotten so much better in them 🙄😒

[@Feraeond]

@Nils-gi5bv "Separation of church and state" is a phrase that doesn't exist in any founding document, nor have mention in any of the minutes of the documents' deliberations. The Constitution protects establishment and free exercise of religion from government restriction. It does not even hint at government subsisting on some fictitious version of morality formed independent from religion. All morality comes from religion and making any just laws without religious insight would be impossible. Whenever a nation attempts to extricate its rule from religious insight, the state becomes their own god and a new state religion then prevails. The first congress as one of their first acts of congress approved the printing of a Bible explicitly for use in schools. And they passed the resolution unanimously. So let's not pretend the founders ever intended a removal of religion from consideration in governance.

[@Nils-gi5bv]

@@FeraeondIn Europe, the dominant impression is that this separation is regulated in the USA and that there are no religious education classes in state schools, for example. In Germany, on the other hand, religious education is largely mandantory.

[@captivedesk3168]

Ken knows someone, un named, that is a creationist, that says dating methods are inaccurate, the consensus of those in the field says they are accurate. Wonder why that is?

[@kevinrtres]

We have a very significant indicator as to the truth created by consensus. The vaxx is said by consensus to be "safe and effective". Go with that.

[@beestoe993]

Can you explain what Ken pointed out in the video? Can you explain that trees in coal deposits that are supposed to be hundreds of millions of years old according to the strata in which they are located can be carbon dated as being less than ONE million years old? Whoops! The infallible dating method mantra just went right out the window there, didnt it! Of course you cant explain it, you have no intention of even attempting to explain it. You are just here to smear the messenger!!! Troll.

[@McLovin_2007]

One person teaches it, and everyone believes it. Thats consensus for sure.

[@McLovin_2007]

@@beestoe993 I assume you're talking about evolution. Scientists admit there is no evidence for macro evolution. Even Dawkins admits it. So this consensus argument is crap. Many of them only believe it because they were taught it. I've even read about how scientists says that they believe it because their fellow scientists do. You watch the video called "Dawkins proves intelligent design".

[@beestoe993]

@@McLovin_2007 I misunderstood you, my apologies. You are absolutely right, the claim to a monopoly on science is a false premise.

[@carriestout6422]

If there were death before sin, then Jesus never overcame death for us. What good is salvation, if we cannot live forever on a new earth with God? Jesus had to overcome death itself!

[@robertmcclintock8701]

( ﾟ□ﾟ) The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.

[@user-br6px6ok9x]

As an Atheist I respect Christians, let them believe whatever they want

[@christopheespic]

Agreed.... As long as it doesn't harm other people's lives. Unfortunately, it often does! Cheers

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

I agree. I'm not an atheist, I'm a Polytheist myself, but we agree on this. I say let everyone believe (or not believe) whatever they wish as long as they aren't hurting others or forcing it down our throats. At the end of the day no one knows what happens when we die or if the Gods or God exists, and personally I don't think we will ever know until we cross over into an afterlife or, if there's nothing, into eternal nothingness which we won't even know we're in anyway. May as well believe whatever makes sense to you, and what makes you happy.

[@christophercoupe5006]

@@matthewgordonpettipas6773 The life, death, resurrection and ascension to heaven of Jesus are proven events of history because there were many witnesses! Furthermore many prophecies about his life came true! Finally, the prophecy of Ezekiel 37, written 2600 yrs ago has come true in the last 150 yrs in Israel! What have your other "gods" done???

[@christophercoupe5006]

@@christopheespic How do Christians harm others?

[@kevinrtres]

@@christopheespic You said: *"Unfortunately, it often does!"* Example of how Christian beliefs have harmed other people lives??? How about Atheist/Nonbelievers beliefs or non-beliefs harming people daily? I need only mention abortion....

[@andrewgraham7659]

Yet if you attack their foundation they will scream and yell at you.

[@thecrew777]

Let them.

[@nathancook2852]

No, we just provide evidence to the contrary that you cannot refute.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

No one in the scientific community is screaming and yelling at you. You are making that up.

[@jeffkelleher]

This presentation demonstrates why Christianity has become an object of derision.

[@kevinrtres]

Tell that to Jesus Himself - He started it all!!!! Besides which, Jesus Himself said "They will hate you because they first hated me". They hated Jesus because He exposed their hypocrisy and evil. Same thing happening today - e.g. man calling himself a woman and vice versa or man inserting his stuff into another man's excrement stuff....so if you point out their ways as sinful it's hate speech or hate crime.

[@billybobwombat2231]

Christianity has been destroying any spiritual path that isn't it for thousands of years, it appears it doesn't like a little push back to its nefarious actions.

[@JasonWHoyt]

To believe these dating methods requires faith.

[@nathancook2852]

No, just studying a little science.

[@helbitkelbit1790]

Ummm the Earth is Billions of years old . And yes , it is also round ......Many so-called bible thumpers dont realize that In The Beginning.....( In the beginning ).....It does not say when that beginning was .

[@SteveParks-vl6wj]

Ummm ......no it isn't and there is no actual proof that it is. Only presupposed ideas from people who want it to be billions of years old.

[@nathancook2852]

@@SteveParks-vl6wj Radiometric dating is VERY well understood, and VERY reliable. We have isotopes who's half lives range from less than a second, to a few seconds, hours, days, weeks, years, and all the way up to billions of years and beyond. And each of those individual elements behave the same way every time. If the short half lives are accurate, and we know parent/daughter isotopes, there is no reason to doubt the ones that take billions of years to decay. Unless there is some scientific reason you can provide that would cause us to doubt them. I would love to hear what scientific evidence you have.

[@SteveParks-vl6wj]

@@nathancook2852 nope. Already disproven, bud. It's over. The gigs up. Your theory is falling apart at the seams and it isn't waterproof.

[@SteveParks-vl6wj]

@@nathancook2852 half lives- that's the key. They've proven the half lives are unreliable. Not only that but a global flood would have made carbon dating completely unreliable. Seeing as we have plenty of evidence for a global flood, tough luck for you guys.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

@@SteveParks-vl6wj Nope. Science has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, give or take a millennium or two. Your book was written by ignorant barbarians who had no knowledge of science. What's "over" is your delusional worldview that denies all evidence.

[@randallwittman2720]

Lets all gather around the cross? Ooops. Thats not Christain either!

[@mickjames7962]

But they ask how can you say that it’s God’s word how can you prove that. Now I believe, but they don’t. So how do you explain that to them? They can’t see the prophecies. I think the Shroud of Turin is proof of God and the resurrection and THAT proves the Bible including the Old Testament. But you have to tear down the pillars of evolution and the fraud of space as well.

[@Feraeond]

The strongest evidence of the Word's claims stands on the historical fact of Jesus Christ's resurrection. The prophets foretell Him, He validates the prophets and apostles who penned the scriptures, and if God raised Jesus of all people from the dead, then all His claims about God are vindicated. I would be perfectly willing to abandon the Bible if anyone else comes along who spontaneously rises from the dead and ascends to heaven having denounced it as false. If our surest indication of a spiritual God's identity is His demonstrated power over the spiritual world including death itself, Jesus is the chief cornerstone to look to for our hope and evidence of the Bible being the true revelation of the Truth. 1 Corinthians 15:17-21 [17] And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. [18] Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. [19] If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied. [20] But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. [21] For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead.

[@richardgregory3684]

_I think the Shroud of Turin is proof of God_ It's a medieval fake. _The strongest evidence of the Word's claims stands on the historical fact of Jesus Christ's resurrection_ Historical fact? lol. There is absolutely NO evidence for the resurrection outside of bible stories. _The prophets foretell Him_ So bible prophecies are fulfilled...in stories in the bible. lol

[@nathancook2852]

@@richardgregory3684 Beat me to both.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

The shroud is proof that a piece of cloth exists. It proves nothing else, and neither does the Bible.

[@jamiem.362]

Another major attack on the WORD of God comes from people who say it doesn't really matter which Bible version you use! A subtle attack, yes, but one that is embraced by non-denominational belief systems. I stand firmly on the KJV, and you should too!

[@Feraeond]

Well, I've been involved with non-denominational fellowships that sermonized and studied out of the KJV and others that use other versions. Why is advocating for a variety of Bible versions as acceptable considered a subtle attack by you?

[@user-dv5sn2xv2y]

Christians should first stop a dispute and confess sin and repent to God. Because Jesus is an angel created by God, also known as the Holy Spirit, so Christians should not worship angels, but should only worship God who created heaven and earth, God is our Creator.

[@adelinomorte7421]

***I have been a believer since tender age, but since I started to think by my self my believe grew up, in other words, evolved, it takes a lot effort and pain to be born and change, today I can say that "my faith is based in reason" and it gives me the right to tell you this: you have no right to attack atheists, they are not a danger for your believe or your faith, they have the same right as you in matters of faith, they are much more sincere that most of those who believe only by faith; one time in conversation in a restaurant with a middle aged couple, the lady pull the conversation to religion and we talked about it with much interest, her husband kept a respectful silence until the moment he said , I am sorry I am an atheist, I look to him in his eyes and said, do not be sorry you are not an atheist, or better saying, yes you are an atheist from the concept that most believers have of GOD, his answer was, "YOU GOT ME !!!" ***

[@Feraeond]

2 Timothy 3:1-7 Godlessness in the Last Days [1] But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. [2] For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, [3] heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, [4] treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, [5] having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. [6] For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, [7] always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.

[@kevinrtres]

Someone said: *"they (atheists) are not a danger for your believe or your faith"* God the Father and Jesus has given me my faith so there's no danger for my faith from any atheist. However, atheists are doing their utmost to destroy any chance of the unbeliever coming to the eternal faith in Jesus. They have banned God from the schools and universities and even the work place - whether by law or by undertone of creed.

[@adelinomorte7421]

@@kevinrtres ***if your faith is OK there are no atheist that can be put your faith in danger, I always lived amongst atheist, I continue to be a believer with a faith based in reason.***

[@adelinomorte7421]

@@kevinrtres *** and you Kevin perhaps banned GOD from churches.***

[@kevinrtres]

@@adelinomorte7421 I am that powerful, yes!

[@martinhoy1]

The Bible was written to prove a point for the people at the time. They didn’t understand millions, or Billions. They only understood 1,000’s. All u care about is a book, written by people. There were loads of things happening at the time, that were never put in the Bible.

[@GhostWarmth]

Since in Christianity Jesus is God, it makes perfect sense indeed that he didn’t turn the divinely inspired (by Himself) religious story of creation into a scientific oral abstract for a bronze age civilisation of the Israelite people. Ham’s understanding is so narrow-minded it hurts.

[@kellyanne7225]

This makes absolutely no sense. You have some serious learning to do. 🤭

[@GhostWarmth]

@@kellyanne7225 do you mean it would make sense to you for Jesus to have delivered a scientific paper to iron /bronze age civilisation?

[@kellyanne7225]

@@GhostWarmth Again…what? Talk about narrow minded. All you atheists defer to is the Bronze Age. Go beyond this. You are putting God in a box and trying to fit your narrative in it. It doesn’t work that way.

[@ethicsexistentialism4191]

Sorry Ken but if you want to defend God's authority you will re-evaluate your support for/promotion of the Calvanist LSB (and other corrupt versions). 🤨

[@momofmanda]

Calvinist (don’t corrupt that spelling)

[@PrincessCassandra]

While the Gospel is not conditioned on the days of creation, all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. So it soon becomes obvious that as with everything to do with the LORD, we need to speak the truth. If God is saying one thing and you are believing and saying differently, then you are making God out to be a liar. This is blasphemy. You can put your trust in Jesus for salvation as is required, however, if you believe false theories, teach falsehood and do not repent, you will find yourself in the lake of fire. This is Biblical. Not legalism, biblical truth. For those of you who want to come argue, I am not teaching a works based salvation. I am teaching what is obvious from reading the Bible. As a believer, I am fully aware of Salvation by Grace alone. However, grace is not a license to sin, Hebrews makes it all very clear. Sin is not just actions, it is what we teach, say and our beliefs as well. We either believe God at His Word or we don't. No way around it. Either we are saying God is telling the truth or he is a liar. These matters are serious and should not be joked with. Those so called Christians who believe in and teach evolution are false teachers and liars. They are practising unbelief. Facts. It can't get any clearer than this.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

"What is obvious from reading the Bible"? So, you haven't heard that people (mostly Christians) have been arguing about what the Bible means for 1600+ years? (It wasn't compiled until the 4th century CE) You didn't know that people have been killing each other over their differences about the meaning of their silly book for 1600+ years? Obvious? You have a future as a comedian. Evolution is true and has mountains of evidence to back it up. Just because you refuse to acknowledge that, doesn't mean it's not true.

[@djsarg7451]

I do not think YEC, (Young Earth Creationist), really read or trust the Bible. 1) The Bible says the Earth is old, see in Deut 33:15, Habakkuk 3:6, Hebrews 4:10 and Gen 2:4 (YEC rather than trust the Bible, trusts Ken Ham, and says the Earth is young, 6,000 years, error in understanding the word day-yom) Hebrews 4:10 we are in day 7, day 7 is long then days 1 to 6 must be long. 2) Romans 5:1-21 says sin caused the death of mankind, to "all men". (YEC rather than trust the Bible, trust Ken Ham, and say that somehow sin causes animals' death.) 3) The Bible says the physical laws are fixed and unchanging, see Jeremiah 33: 25. (YEC rather than trust the Bible, trusts, Ken Ham, and says physical laws differ in the past) 4) Bible says, it is God’s nature that He will never lie or deceive us. Hebrews 6:18, Num. 23:19, Rom. 1:20. (YEC rather than trust the Bible, trust Ken Ham, and say God made things to look old that are not, like making light waves in motion and more). 5) The Bible says the Earth is old, day can be a long time span. The Bible says God specially created animals after their own kind, Gen 1:21 - Gen 1:25-26, (not by evolution) and specially created mankind (not by evolution). (YEC rather than trust the Bible, trust Ken Ham, and say the Earth is young, 6,000 years, and that there are only two views: Ken Ham YEC and atheism evolution. Truth there are many old Earth Creationists, that do not believe in evolution, Ken Ham says they do not exist. YEC stop putting your faith in Ken Ham and his friends and read and trust the Bible.

[@kevinrtres]

So your trust is in the Age of Rocks rather than the Rock of Ages. There's a marked difference between the two belief systems. The one leads to eternal condemnation and the other to eternal joy, love and acceptance in the presence of God Almighty. Choose well.

[@djsarg7451]

I trust the Bible, which says the Earth is old. Hebrews 4:10 we are in day 7th, day 7th is long then days 1 to 6 must be long. Have you entered into the 7th day as the Bible asks you to? The 7th day started after Eve, and continues to today. Are you trusting in Ken Ham? Or God's Word that teaches you about the 7th day. This is not about rocks, it is about God's Word.

[@McLovin_2007]

Day 1 was the beginning of Creation. Day 6 was the creation of Man. And the Bible dates Adam at 6000 years ago. So the Bible doesn't say the earth is millions or billions of years old.

[@djsarg7451]

YEC, Young Earth Creationist, and they are the Flat Earthers of today and do not speak for all Christians. They have put their faith in Ken Ham, they trust websites that claim the Earth is 6,000 years old. It is very sad. The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. " Psalm 19:1 The universe is 13.8 billion years old. The Bible tells us the earth (4.54 ± 0.05 billion years) is old. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Hebrews 4:10 we are in the 7th day, the day of rest. If day 7 is a long time span (since the creation of mankind), then days 1 to 6 must be a long time span. In Genesis 2:4. The entire time span of God’s creative activity is called a “day”. The Hebrew word yôm, translated “day,” can be three distinct definitions. daylight hours, 24 hours or a long time span.

[@romecorona]

The Lord created Adam with an in-built age on day 6... Do we really think He couldn't have created the earth with an in-built age? His ways are much higher than our ways...

[@christophercoupe5006]

Why would God have to create an old earth?

[@romecorona]

@@christophercoupe5006 certainly wouldn't "have to" I was simply making the point that He could have the same way He created Adam already set to a certain age...

[@helbitkelbit1790]

Umm......read again . Adam is not mentioned until the EIGHTH day

[@christophercoupe5006]

@@helbitkelbit1790 Where does it mention eighth day?

[@nathancook2852]

@@christophercoupe5006 Gotta love it when the crazies disagree.

[@TheBillypitts]

😂😂😂😂. Why did your God have Noah build a boat to house all the animals, especially when there is no proof of any ark nor has it been found. Yet your God told Noah to take the dinosaurs onto the boat just to kill them after they got off the boat. Your argument about radiometric dating fails because we have answers. There is no proof of any god

[@richardwatson2250]

Does he realize that the Bible are translations by humans (man) therefore, which translation is the correct one?

[@papasmurf7144]

The flat earthers have similar arguments. I really don't know how productive these arguments are. I agree with you much more than flat earth lunatics but don't think this is necessary to share the gospel. The point is we can't prove it either way but we can prove the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. Many people are going to hell and we can't waste time arguing about such things.

[@loraborealis2551]

Unless you're dealing with a person who is fully indoctrinated by public schools and fully believes in the theory of evolution. It completely contradicts the scripture. Study to show thyself approved. A workman always ready to give an answer of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear.

[@therick363]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@loraborealis2551_fully indoctrinated by public schools and fully believes in the theory of evolution_ Can’t wait to hear you support such disrespectful claims there. How are schools indoctrinating? You know what a scientific theory is right? Gravity is also one. Are you okay with that but not evolution?

[@gregjones2217]

This is just another case of religion grasping at straws to support their fable. And of a con man trying to maintain his cash cow.

[@41srn]

Repent while you still can

[@markusklyver6277]

Young Earth creationists will be like "Don't listen to the doctrines and traditions of men!" while they insist you listen to the doctrines and traditions of themselves, who are men.

[@kingjacquestv8803]

Ken ham and his circus of delusion

[@anthonycrumb5753]

Hey Ken ! have you ever heard of the 'heat problem' - no amount of creation pseudo science will change the fact of an old universe and an old earth. This nonsense has been debunked more times than I've drunk cold beers.

[@mrtadreamer]

Satan attacked the word of God from the every beginning. He persuaded Eve to doubt, then disobey God's word outright. The arguments of atheists do exactly that as well.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

So you think atheists are satanic? Silly. We don't think your God OR your Satan exist. The Bible is fiction and your God does not exist.

[@Azamat421]

There was no Adam or eve

[@mrtadreamer]

@@Azamat421 case in point

[@rofishy2]

God created an infinite universe for creative finite beings made in his image to discover his creation for all eternity. God knows everything, he created us to worship him through his creation,not worship the creation itself.

[@richardgregory3684]

Why would god need to be worshipped? That's a very human trait. And if god knows everything, then he always knew all about Satan and temptation and humanity's fall into wickedness, so he wa either powerless to prevent it, or simply did not care to. Moreover, if god is actually omniscient, he cannot also be omnipotent and free will cannot exist.

[@terrieormonde2340]

People who attack God's word have scales over their eyes and do not have the Holy Spirit. Within them, they can not see the spiritual things of God. Don't pound sand. Pray for them.🙏 There is a spiritual realm they can not see. They may see an imitation of it. The devil is the father of all lies and imitating things of God. Eyes to see and ears to hear.

[@davidpiot8098]

You can not stand on god's word if there is no evidence to support it. man's word is based on empirical evidence and it is the best way we have to get to the bottom of things He makes only claims, but i see no demonstrable evidence for his claims.

[@hypnopompicstate9910]

Man's word said 'zoonotic' and 'safe and effective'. 🙄

[@justinlowder2173]

Man’s word has little power. God’s Holy Word has stood since the beginning. The 10 commandments stand over every man, woman and child. “ Though shalt not steal”. We know it’s wrong to steal because God has written His Law on our hearts. You just hate God and his commandments. You want to be your own god. You just don’t want God telling you how to live.

[@mike16apha16]

did you pluck your eyes out of your head? he show cased how dating methods are inaccurate and people are doing things in a lab in days even minutes they thought could happen in millions or billions of years. you makes only claims, but i see no demonstrable evidence for your claims did you just decide to stick your foot in your mouth without even watching the video? also how is that empirical evidence wording for covvid? its like everyone threw their brains out with the bath water and forgot how viruses work. i learned in grade school and understood better what those ""experts"" using their ""empirical evidence"" couldn't either understand or deliberately lied about when it came to how vaxs and viruses work also i'd love to see the empirical evidence for the origin of the universe or origin of life using natural processes, and i don't mean some theory crafted fanfiction some rando scientist wrote in some paper that doesn't matter. i'm talking it recreated in a lab so i can observe it, test it, and repeat it which is the *true* scientific method

[@georgewade9748]

this is merely an intro of sorts ...they have tons of evidence ....Flood , DNA language, mans obvious sin.....etc.....but start with Kent Hovind vid where he debates 3 evolutionist.....actually , I will provide the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZjLqJ2Hebqcea8

[@davidpiot8098]

@@justinlowder2173 i do not hate gods (typical reaction from a theist), i do not believe in gods. Big difference. you can hate the idea of a god or the people spreading nonsence about it. And the claim that "god has written something on your heart" there no evidence for it. First you have to come up with evidence that a god exists and what god that is, before you can claim he has written anything.

[@ryeclansen7371]

No such thing as the "Word of God". Bible is a book of plagiarized legends, invented and distorted history, total scientific nonsense, and the story of the most malevolent, sadistic, monstrous deity in all of man made up mythology. I challenge you to let this comment stand and not delete it.