Rotating Your Chest PROPERLY In A Golf Swing 🏌️‍♂️

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

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[@sashmaster3433]

I'd like 2 ask u. I have a problem with (probably) overusing my arms as I start the downswing which gets my arms infront and I struggle with getting them back on plane early. To sum up, I need to be capable of just letting them drop near my body and then just get through the ball nicely. I feel like I've tried everything but I still push them over the top. Even if I move by pelvis like Tiger. Any advice to let arms work naturally? Thanks 4 reading

[@daddyisham]

I really appreciate you sharing this incredible information!Thank you thank you thank you

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@daddyisham no problem !!

[@ricejohnp]

I have spent big money on lessons and most of it was worthless. You guys nail it. All you hear is “hip rotation”. That promotes a horizontal plane and steep path. In reality, the hips open along the same axis as the right shoulder moves down the plane around the spine. It took me 20 years to figure that out. When I started focusing on shoulder movement and maintaining posture followed by a heaping dose of tempo, I’m much better. I don’t even pay attention to my hips and I’m open at impact. Great work!!’

[@BillSkelley-iu3tz]

30 years I spent teaching golf. The windmill drill done properly the single most revealing drill of all. Great work men.

[@jessalvo6375]

The best presentation of very pertinent and truthful facts about the basics of the golf swing short of the hype and unnecessary excitement in delivery. Kudos to both these gentlemen. You should be in the golf channel instead of the forever shouting and over excited teachers there.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks, Jes👊

[@alanking5001]

BRILLIANT , immediate improvement , light bulb moment , couldn't believe how far off I was .cheers fellas 👍

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Awesome, glad it helped!

[@ranganathansrinivasan930]

The way you explain each move with the theory behind why it should be done that way is really amazing. Helps me visualize the correct sequence which makes it easy to correct and implement. Thanks a ton and keep rolling out your instructions

[@ToddSchultzNC]

Best golf instruction channel period.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Wow thanks, Todd👊

[@matthewdudzik7673]

When Shaun talked about his back I was so there with him! I’m 47 and I’ve been struggling with consistency and back pain for 17 years. I finally found a coach who takes video of my swing and put his hand on my head just like in your video! At address I have an anatomical tilt that forces my belt buckle down and a sweeping curve to my lower back. He’s got me actively engaging my core to point my belt more at the ball and less at my feet. I’ve also found that practicing in the mirror, like you recommended is very helpful to match my feels and reals. Now I’ve got a sore right upper rear hip from learning new motions. But major relief on my back! It’s exciting and good to know I’m not alone. I’ll be using the windmill drill for sure. Thanks for all you do!

[@whetedge]

Great lesson. A huge industry has been built on teaching golfers to downswing from a weak position at the top; namely, a flat shoulder plane. Learning the correct shoulder plane makes every other aspect of the swing exponentially easier (timing, sequencing, and shallowing become non-issues). It's hard to learn, especially if you've been swinging with a flat shoulder plane for a long time, but well worth the effort to learn it.

[@jamesbradt7186]

Great instruction video, love how they break it all down. Shows me everything I was doing was wrong and how to fix it! Seeing improvement right away using your drills, loving all of your video's!

[@intilij]

That was excellent. Simple. Fundamental. Athletic. Not positional, mechanical. That's how golf or any sport should be taught. Nice job.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks brother👊

[@76MUTiger]

Sequencing example by Mike at 8:50 where he shows out of sequence (hips lead disconnected) and in sequence (hips and arms move in coordination) is a great 5 seconds. Would love to see more about the nature of this coordination, what it is, how can we learn to recognize it (by feel and visually), and what drills we can do to improve coordination of arms & hips? If you already have made this video, please point me to it. I think it's very powerful. Thanks for all your work.

[@Jippa_33]

Just coming across you guys. I don’t typically look at golf videos be cuz I’m so analytical but these breakdown are incredibly insightful. Thanks a lot! Great job 👍

[@jk3639]

You are so analytical that you do not analyze? Interesting.

[@stevestanford9434]

Was first attracted to AMG when discovering and watching Pros vs Ams. Tech analysis obviously trend setting & increadably insightful). Then, saw you guys doing other instructional videos. Superb individual sessions but especially loved the way you play off and add to each other's comments. Found these just as helpful and impactful on a practical level. As a former "over-the-top" KZbin golfing tips zealot, I'm now going straight to AMG!!! Extraordinary instruction - truly exceptional and par excellence (pun intended)!!! Thank You!!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Hahaha, I see what you did there😄 We really appreciate the kind words, Steve, and we're pumped the videos are helping your game!

[@peteratherton897]

Couldn’t agree more, every word is bang on the money there Steve 👍

[@station2station544]

Thank you. As a low single figure Im so tired of the golf digest type mantra of driving with the legs. Of course that happens because we are standing on the ground. You guys touched on a lot of things and there is a lot of cause and effect, but I've always believed if the chest stops turning thru the hitting zone, the golfer humps the goat, the club flies on past. Flip.. You guys hit the nail on the head.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Yessir👊

[@RonLufkin]

Maintaining your body angles in the golf swing is critical for power, accuracy and consistent contact. The wind mill drill, I find, is the perfect drill for this. No more early extension for me. Thanks

[@johncreet1254]

For me, there's a huge amount of great information here. Thanks for posting this.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks for watching!

[@rickpiper4668]

A great video guys, very clear and easy to comprehend. Sorry to appear off topic, but sometime could you consider addressing an issue not often covered, but one that probably affects many amateurs, that nasty habit of looking up fractionally too early before impact? That pulled to left field drive causes so many problems for me and some friends.. it's easy to say don't do it, but sometimes we still do sadly. Thanks again.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks, Rick and we'll see if we can't add that one to the list👍

[@keller376]

love the windmill drill - nice work guys

[@jamesinoregon1081]

Yep. 40 years of yoga and martial arts and my hips were so fast, then I watched the AMG videos and fixed my loose hips and poor sequencing. Thanks guys!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

👊

[@mikejacobs8294]

I am so grateful to have found you on KZbin. I really enjoy your Am Vs Pro series were I can visualize the difference we make. I learn better by visualization and you 2 make it very easy to understand. My friends would make fun that I would start my transition forward before I got to the top of my backswing. So I started pausing at the top of my backswing. That messed with my head for a couple years but after watching you 2 I'm now hitting my Mizuno blades pure again. A huge thank you to both of you. I will be a forever follower. Please visit Arizona so I can get a lesson!!

[@danutopgolfer]

Another great video , just watched your video on re-centering in the transition , absolutely genius , fantastic explanation. You two are the laurel and hardy of golf instructor 👍⛳

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

haha I'm assuming Shaun would be the Hardy in that scenario😂

[@martindonnelly3654]

Great video guys and such a confirmation of cause and affect in the golf swing. Too much of the wrong rotation in the back swing, causing real problems getting back to the ball in a powerful way. Exactly my problem and the right amount of controlled back swing for me, feels like I don't turn at all and I have to work seriously had not to go back to my old ways.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Being aware of the cause is more than 1/2 the battle👍

[@randywesterberg2488]

I love the scientific research behind all your videos! Thanks!

[@janetgardner2871]

Just found your channel; great explanation of body position. I love the angle of your camera because its easier for me to follow and pattern your moves. The down the line and face on angles are not as easy to follow. Thanks !

[@scottsanders2641]

This is gold for me. I have a hard time initiating my DS with lower body cues (left knee, hip bump, etc) But when I do your guys arm shallowing move combined with this chest opening or expansion move, I find myself on my left side and open through impact. The only caveat is to maintain my Rt side bend, otherwise I come out of the shot. Thanks fellas!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

love it

[@shahjahan7537]

Great video to learn take away because proper takeaway helps good follow through

[@robertmazzarachio7939]

Great video , I’m so glad I found all these videos , I strongly feel since watching your videos I’m getting a better understanding of what I need to do to improve in all areas of the great game of golf 🏌️‍♂️ Thanks 😊

[@fernandopereira4299]

Now it makes sense!! Thanks guys! Rotate, close the gap.

[@rickthom46]

These are great swing Mechanics videos and I find they speak directly to my issues.

[@smoozerish]

best golf video on youtube by far. no frills just facts

[@raddpetersdc]

Hey lads. Your videos have really helped my golf. I don't golf anyway near as much as I want to and yet my ball striking has improved a lot. The first time I saw you show the shoulder tilt and rotation using the gears was a huge change up. I don't think about my hip turn anymore, it just happens. Contact improved and I even started getting a draw. The problem was I had been spending so long trying to get a draw with the crap swing that now my major miss is too much draw or sometimes a hook. I would love to see a video about what that could be. Thanks a lot for your help.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We shot a hooking video last time we filmed👍

[@mgwright56]

You guys are always good. Thanks

[@ggkk6474]

Another great golf lesson on KZbin.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks bud!

[@OpaKnows]

I'm 56 and have been through it. Twice. I see a lot of instruction out there advocating for lots of spine tilt/bend at and through impact. I know that the quickest way to a bulging disc is through sheering force and spine impingement. What's your opinion on trying to create this movement? I believe that the hips can open through impact while still not bending your spine sideways, thereby minimizing the chance of injury, and focusing on releasing the club with your arms to create speed. No need to keep rotating the upper body any more than the natural force of the follow through to finish will create. Opinions?

[@topperdufferson]

Great video fellas, just what I needed to see seen as I have an overswing and seems I'm not turning on an angle as much as I should be.

[@nohsungkim9486]

Very impressed with your athletic motion and drill, could you provide the easy swing for the senior golfer who is not much flexible motion to the swing.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Check out the "videos" link on the channel and you'll find a number of videos for senior golfers with limited flexibility👍

[@fr1nkly]

This is good advice. Matches and enhances other recent lessons I'm working on. Thanks guys.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Nice, it's always great to hear guys say this info confirms what they're working on👊

[@rahulkandepaneni8619]

Any chance you guys can do a video comparison of an amateur vs pro in regards to the side bends in back swing and downswing paired with the forward bend? I know the right side shoulder movement video is a similar concept, but a shoulder line angle with respect to horizontal plane (front view) and vertical plane (side view) would be very good information for me (and probably many viewers) since I have a tendency to not have enough bend in my downswing. Thanks in advance. Love your videos!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

That's a great idea, Rahul... we can definitely do that one for you👊

[@francotardelli3564]

I struggled with turning until I realised that if I bent my left side as I turned, my left shoulder went down and my shoulders were on the correct angle. Likewise on the downswing as I turned I incorporated a right side bend which put me back on the reciprocal shoulder plane. It prevents me from turning flat on the back and downswings. Thinking side bend helped me.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

That's some awesome self-discovery, Franco👊 Side bend is a big deal for the pivot.

[@goldengate8287]

Big man said at 7:57 "I'll give you some resistance" Thanks for keeping it real because you are showing a practical application of why youi use your lower body instead of "faking" yourself in using the lower body ...

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Can't fake the ground😉

[@ianblackburn5935]

Another great video gents. Is there a gears on this also? I was wondering if you tilted a gears figure to look at the swing from top of the head so hips are directly under the head (I.e. not directly above a folder but on that 40 deg angel) then I guess this would prove the point further and show a pro pivoting around the spine angle (40 Deg) and an amateur moving off that pivot axis. If this makes any sense 😂

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

I think there is, Ian.

[@renscience]

Love these guys.

[@peteratherton897]

Wow! Just been doing the windmill drill, going off my feels, ive got a lot of stretching of muscles to do, feel it much more in my core and sides, my poor sides 😀, when I say sides, I mean obliques and lats (hope they’re correct terms). Cheers fellas 👍🏌️‍♂️

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Use those golf muscles😊

[@evanst.martin9332]

Great video guys. As an old guy without a lot of flexibility is it OK to incorporate a short back swing and focus more on chest rotation forward in the downswing? Thanks!

[@charlesadams431]

I believe in this concept and I've tried to practice it but inevitably my ball flight is toward the left, sometimes way left. This move tends to produce an over the top motion for me where the club is releasing too soon and traveling outside to in. How do I make the chest turn properly to get speed and distance without the over the top move? Appreciate you comments. Thanks, Charlie

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The chest can be moving spot on and still give you that over the top move because the chest isn't holding the club😉. The arms also have to be moving down (or even back) enough to offset the outward rotation of the chest. That's why the idea of passive arms or leaving the arms up is so damaging for many golfers. Check out his short video for a visual of what I'm talking about: instagram.com/p/Bg6Z-PChZxH/

[@76MUTiger]

So the hips will fire to support the rotation of torso and arms, so no need to intentionally train to move hips first. Since hand speed is so important, we want to focus on getting them moving ASAP! Is there a role for focusing on the turn of the torso (as fast as possible) to support the quick movement of arms?

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

I don't think most realize how flexible most pros are. Work out and stretch and all this stuff is way easier. Especially as you get older and/or you basically fly a desk all week. Good video.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

"Flying a desk" now that's a funny visual😄

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Desk fliers and keyboard warriors. 😕

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@MrLuigiFercotti Internet wouldn't be the same without them🤦‍♂️

[@randymahony8157]

Hey guys great video. I move my left hand to my right hip then up and it's helped me stop swaying.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Nice👊

[@8acenelson]

Wow, this is great. I've heard "keep the spine angle" a million times, which isn't hard to grasp but is hard to do, especially if like me you have a bad back due in part to how you learned the golf swing. I'm not sure they ever say "keep the spine angle," but this is the best explanation of how to do that--and why--that I've ever heard. The discussion of the hip turns explains perfectly why learning the hip slide from reading Claude Harmon as a kid led to a dip in my swing whenever my timing's been off or I've overdone the move. At about 8:50 "this not that" clears up for me why trying to do the hip bump before turning the hips through has always seemed unnatural to me and hasn't helped me solve my "dipsy doodle," as one on my teaching pro friends calls it. It seems to me their discussion of the downswing shows that the hips work a lot more subtly than we're usually taught. The hips are quieter and less active. They're turning but not so much. (At least for us mortals--Rory and Lexie and the like maybe are in a different world.) The hips are turning but also letting the hands, arms and shoulders catch up and sync up with them. That to me is a revelation. And it makes perfect sense. It simplifies and clarifies the swing. At age 69 I'm still learning the game. Golf is hard and I've only been playing for 56 years. 😎 I'm going to work on the drills. Especially the windmill. Thanks, gentlemen. Great job!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks so much for taking the time to share that, 8! You hit the nail on the head with synching it all up... that's way more important that ramping the hips around at all costs. BTW, at 69 you have lots of good golf still ahead of you😉

[@adamoxios5479]

Great vids. Literally took a few screen shots and tried replicating it on the range. Worked like a charm

[@richardhoyland2127]

For years I've always thought the biggest issue with my swing was a lack of hip rotation. I have been working on improving this both in terms of practice and education (watching instructional videos mainly). Today I had a lesson where I was covered in sensors and had my swing captured in 3D. It showed I had 5 degrees of chest rotation at impact (square) and 25 degrees of hip rotation. After my coach explained how my lack of chest rotation was also restricting my hip rotation, since I'm not particularly flexible, I hit a few more shots with a new swing thought: rotate the chest fast with the aim of trying to get it to face my target at impact (this was just a swing thought not a realistic goal). The difference was instant. I changed my path further right and my dispersion was good. It also helps with exiting left. When I was remeasured my chest rotation was 23 degrees and hip rotation 45 degrees. All this time I have been trying to open my hips when the key to it was rotating my chest! I wish I had seen this video sooner!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great lesson there👏.

[@woogaboogawiththegreenteet8436]

two turns in a barrell! great video,thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@chestermicek]

If you rotate your chest with your hips, you will yank the ball to the left & you probably will hook it also. You must learn to rotate your hip a bit, and then, perform a side crunch. My results are best when I push my hips toward the target, side crunch to form the backwards K, and then, swing toward the target. I perform an un-rushed one, two, three motion and get straight ball flight and good distance. Moreover, there was an unexpected benefit from "crunching": my right elbow was easily able to touch the side seam of my golf shirt. I believe that made me very accurate.

[@chipganger5051]

Great video, very appropriate for me, thanks guys.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Glad it helped, Chip... thanks for watching!

[@scottsanders2641]

Another great video gentlemen! Quick question related to someone with reoccurring lower back muscle spasms (one bad episode every couple months, no sciatica or major disc problems) My back doctor plays golf and he thinks any golf swing is hard on the back. Do you have any videos or any suggestions on a type of pivot that may be better for someone in their mid 50"s? I am in good shape and do core strengthening. Thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We've both had serious back issues, and the overriding theme is NEUTRAL. We try to teach everything to move neutral with regards to the spine. It's safer and more athletic when it's not at risk.

[@ryanalopez]

Exactly what I'm struggling with. Thanks for posting!

[@Uncle19]

Perhaps as a part 2 to this, once we get that good tilt at the top of the backswing, how can we get through the follow through with the same tilt? I know I tend to backswing correctly but then starting down I'm afraid to let my left shoulder rise (as it should because it's on an angled plane, right?) because I think I'll hit it fat, but that can keep my right shoulder from pointing towards the ground or having a good plane at impact. Basically, how can we keep this great plane at impact after we've attained it atop our back swing?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The number one best way would be to get the arms moving down while the left should stays down. The most common killer for that is golfers tilting their shoulders to lower the arms.

[@Uncle19]

@@AthleticMotionGolf ah okay great! I think you even had a video showing you need to let your arms drop vertically during transition before swinging through. I can definitely focus on letting them get towards shaft parallel before letting my left shoulder raise.

[@steveperry1344]

another good one, practical an ez to understand. i tend to turn too level at times and that is never good. so would you say it's better to think lift and turn than turn and lift, i know it's a combo of that but to help get it right in your mind. i'm always tryin to get my mind right.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

It sounds like that would be a great feel for your tendency👊

[@openminded1923]

Ive been told to start the downswing with putting pressure on my left foot, like a step down. Any truth to that thought? Thanks for another great video!!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We literally just finished a video on that exact topic... the sneak peak is yes, there is a pressure shift that starts well before the body and club change directions.

[@Murphydoge]

You guys have done a great job on these videos. 🤙 it’s obvious you love the game as much as I do

[@alwynlouw6584]

Thank you! Very well explained!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks for checking it out, Alwyn👊

[@golfdoc1950]

Matching turn to tilt is my Holy Grail in golf.

[@johnr2632]

Great video - windmill drill is eye opening when you try it. Exactly my issue - lifting out.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

yessir

[@thefireplacechimneyservice4818]

@@wranglerpc At what time mark in the video please.

[@johnatchley9754]

This video is four years old so not sure you will see a new comment. But I also watched your live lesson that stresses on the backswing the left shoulder dot on GEARS should not go too low but should follow a shallower downward diagonal path. That appears to be the path that would be created by your windmill drill when you simply tilt forward to address the ball. The club stays outside your hands during the first half or more of the backswing as you show in both videos if you just move the handle and shaft together with your chest and don’t let the arms fold across your chest and too far behind you. However, in this video you seem to be saying that the left shoulder should turn lower on the backswing. With your client in the live lesson you show that when he did that, turned the left shoulder down too much, it caused his spine to tilt towards the target on the backswing forcing him to tilt away from the target on the downswing thus creating a weaker swing and possibly a fat strike. The shallower left shoulder turn with his spine straight allowed him to shift on to his left side correctly on the downswing and make good contact. Is there any conflict or difference between the shoulder turn you show here and in that live lesson video or is it that your great work with GEARS just revealed a subtle but important difference? Anyway, thanks for everything you post it has been a great help to me, an 82 year old who has played for over 60 years.

[@masontakeshitajr4588]

Awesome instructions videos awesome teachers .

[@wonderjesus]

Wonderful as always chaps 🏌🏻❤️🙏🏻

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks bud!

[@DASH1ful]

the lowering of the right shoulder is effected by the way the right forearm drives thru. thru the years players have been taught to simulate the low right shoulder position at impact, but this only makes a player fall back on the ball and hit behind it. they teach us to duff the ball and then they call us duffers.

[@avo7503]

Thanks guys. It fix my swing better.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Awesome!

[@BrooksHays]

best video yet

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Wow, thanks bud!

[@thurlestonetennis2447]

I understand that the better players employ a right side crunch on the downswing; this was not mentioned in your video. Could you provide some guidance on how to achieve the impact position of the tour Pros?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The first advice would be to NOT try to do a right sided crunch.😉

[@thurlestonetennis2447]

Athletic Motion Golf could you explain why?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@thurlestonetennis2447 there is def some right side bend, but it can be overdone at the expense of clubface and path control

[@leightonyates2547]

One of the best lessons yet, thank you

[@joserocha483]

I love this channel. Thanks.

[@errinobryan4697]

Great lesson....thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@doctordm]

What a great lesson!!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@frankgrisantisrestaurant3338]

Great video guys! Thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks Frank! What kind of restaurant you got?

[@pieman2010]

I love that you guys use the data to challenge conventional wisdom. Well done, and thanks for the great videos

[@bryang949]

Love what you guys do. Great work!!

[@chadschulze1735]

You guys are awesome thank you! can you guys discuss finding your reactionary pre shot routine? that subtle bumb move or drift move BLOWWWSSS..i hate it. How do you freely get the "hands to drop"? mine always want to be up there

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

You gotta get 'em moving down😉

[@chadschulze1735]

@@AthleticMotionGolf wow thanks...i was gonna movem up then let go of the club at the top. HONK

[@telcantor2069]

Hi Guys, Great lesson.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

👊

[@jamesdavis5517]

Great lesson thanks.

[@uscgeharris]

These guys are amazing, thanks.

[@kwallin8136]

Could you give us some exercsises if you have a hard time doing that last airpane drill? greeat video

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Use a long broom stick or like pole across the upper part of your back with your arms extended as wide as possible. Rotate back and through going very slowly.

[@Bill-uo6cm]

The hips and shoulders may move together BUT in the race between the two, the golfer would likely be better served, in my opinion, by focusing on rotating their hips so that at impact the hips will be 15° to 20° more open than the shoulders. If the golfer thinks about rotating the hips and shoulders together, there is a good chance the shoulders will catch up to the hips too quickly and that neither the hips or shoulders will be sufficiently open, if at all, at impact. I have no doubt that a lot of great golfers give no thought to maintaining this separation, but I suspect they have so grooved the proper hip rotation into their swing that they barely feel their hips rotating at all. But for most golfers, maintaining the proper separation does not come naturally. An image of two objects tied to a rope just came to mind. If the rope is tight and I pull one object, the distance between the two will remain the same. If I pull one object and push the other, the distance may close because I may inadvertently push the one object more that I pull the other. The analogy between the rope and the golf swing is not perfect, my only point is that the shoulders may catch up to the hips too soon, whereas there is little to no chance (in an otherwise reasonably good golf swing) that the shoulders will catch up too late. Am I mistaken?

[@crawfcrawford1645]

Great info! Thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Appreciate you watching, Ivan!

[@johnrussell1202]

Gentlemen, I have a problem with the shoulder turn & keeping the club head outside my hands on the backswing , how can I get a complete shoulder turn , keeping my club outside the hands seems to restrict my backswing. Thanks .

[@pauldedo4573]

I've often heard the downswing is like pulling on a rope to ring a bell or throwing a medicine ball. Can you say these drills relate to those metaphors or is there a difference? Pulling the rope drill can cause you to dip down too far and throwing the medics ball can cause you to sway or exaggerate the weight transfer. Please comment, thank you.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

They relate well, Paul. Pulling a rope or ringing a bell are great visuals, but like anything, those can be done poorly too. Those two motions are basically arm motions that don't require dipping to do. I think some golfers interpret those as pulling the ceiling down or ringing a massive cathedral bell. Those would require way more body interaction like dipping, etc. The same for the medicine ball. If the ball is too heavy, you'll need to use a lot more than the relateable golf motion. That make sense?

[@pauldedo4573]

Thank you for your prompt reply

[@JeffKeenerRCJH]

Great work!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@bobpass7374]

Thanks

[@balisongjihad4108]

Would you say by left arm parallel as a rule of thumb to be what percentage of my total shoulder turn. I really am trying to work on my sequence in the takeaway and back swing as well as help verbalize this to my students better.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Right around 75%

[@balisongjihad4108]

Athletic Motion Golf thanks for taking the time

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@balisongjihad4108 👊

[@gac9704]

Do you guys do the kind of help where one sends you a video of our swing and you give some feedback?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We do, Gerardo... you can see all the details here: athleticmotiongolf.com/ilessons

[@SD-xi8zk]

What do you guys think about keeping the right (rear) heel down as long as possible in the swing to combat early extension and helping rotation?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Not a fan at all of that, SD. That's not a good way to fix early extension... at best it's a late bandaid that often falls off.

[@SD-xi8zk]

Athletic Motion Golf so turning into the right heel earlier maybe?

[@ufukgoksu9851]

@@AthleticMotionGolf If I may comment to the holding of the trailing right foot towards the impact: It is not good idea, yes, early extension does not happen to that degree anymore, but in my own case, I do not pivot through the shot since keeping the right foot on the ground keeps me from doing this motion. So, I myself have to find a way to get rid of this bad habit...

[@theprofessionalamateur2465]

Would you say the core should also be feeling this turn? So we’re using the abdomen and lats to generate a better connected trunk rotation? Or is turning the chest the best feel? Or is it more individual? 😊

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The feels can be somewhat individual, but remember... the hips are starting with about a 45 degree head start. The chest has some catching up to do😉

[@mikerodrick2430]

The turn is from the core, not the chest. The key is to keep the core & the chest connected. If you're using your core, your chest will be where it should be but the hips must move slightly laterally before the turn begins. It's all timing which is why the game is so hard.

[@theprofessionalamateur2465]

Okay, who would like to answer this one?... both shoulders and hips can easily move independently and disconnect from the middle region of the trunk, is turning this area more important to an athletic motion and effective swing than shoulders and hips?! Do they react to this movement and could you guys at AMG put some numbers on this area? 😊

[@randymahony8157]

This is a great video. I was guilty of standing up and over turning and it caused me to top or thin and my club face was open. A whole bunch of problems.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

You're not alone with that move, Randy. We hope this helps you start to change that👊

[@ronnieroberts6128]

When I concentrate on chest rotation and maintaining my forward tilt, directionally, I see improvement. I get the ball in the center of face, but I lose club head speed. My lower body feels less involved. The ball just doesn’t fly off the face. Any suggestions and thanks in advance.

[@kbkesq]

I’m a subscriber to your site but have one question about the forward tilt here- how does it apply to driver ? Thx!

[@robsaxepga]

I feel when I make a proper pivot, my shoulders naturally turn and incline in correlation with my pre-swing posture. As you guys have suggested and I've done over my years in golf, practicing without a club and using ground forces to aid in making a proper pivot takes the pressure off of having to overwork my shoulders, arms and hands which in turn helps me to retain my posture position through impact and produce better contact. The sticks drill and info regarding that is totally priceless...excellent. Btw, the video about the centers of gravity of the hips and torso and the relationship to each other through the ball REALLY helped my centeredness and contact. Thanks for another excellent video!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great points, Rob! I think just about everyone could benefit from some indoor pivot work without a club (and with eyes closed). The feels are really eye opening😊

[@murtalasaleh4381]

Great video

[@naterichardson8169]

I would like to know your thoughts on Shawn Clement from wisdom of golf The PGA has sponsored him and his swing seems to be hacked up, very handsy no posture no coil ,backswng and just whole views on the swing seems bad I'm really interested in what you think about his form of training and is he doing more harm than good to new golfers, thanks guys

[@CraigCrowe-ll7ku]

How does this fit in with Increasing Club Head Speed Parts 1 and 2? Are the arms and hands passive or active?