AtomMan G7 Ti First Look, Thinnest RTX 4070 Gaming PC Ever!

[@shashank7908]

So its a laptop without the screen, keyboard and touchpad.

[@drewnewby]

@Shashank7908 Correct, and priced same as laptops configured the same. Also, they save on not including a battery.

[@lorsheckmolseh3345]

If laptop-parts are properly cooled, they nearly are reaching the speed of their desktop-counterparts at way lower wattage, e.g. the 16-core Ryzen 7 7945HX (used on minisforum BD790i). Less power means smaller case, power brick, less noise and cost, especially for 24/7 systems. My personal favorite between style, size, performance and $$$ is the Serpent Canyon, still able to use AAA-titles with 30-60Hz. 2 80mm/20mm fans, heavy heatpipes and a big metal-radiator are classes better to cool the system than the mini-ventilators in flat laptops. It costs around 1/3.

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

​@@benjiro8793 where exactly?? Are u factoring in the i9 CPU?? Cause a Laptop with similar specs cost a bit higher than this mini oc

[@DJIsher1]

Aren’t all of these mini PC’s just that?

[@netnomad47]

​@@benjiro8793 more like $1999

[@maxmuster5977]

30 years later and we're back to the turbo button... what a time to be alive

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

theyre mostly just for bragging rights since in no way someone selling any of those, but maybe you get to listen at some audio stores, or canjam some sort

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

but theyre very useful for me

[@Bajicoy]

For $1280 barebones and $1440 with RAM and storage, it's not a cheap mini pc but it is still cheaper than most laptops with a 14900HX and mobile 4070 and most mini pc with a mobile 4070. It is good to see the internal space is better used than the NUCXi7. The main thing holding me back is the lack of IO but for raw price to performance this seems ok for a mini pc.

[@Bajicoy]

Asus ROG NUC set expectations extremely low with its outrageous price. The G7 Ti is ok, not great, not bad.

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

​@@Bajicoy agreed. This mini PC isn't the best, to me the HX G99/G100 takes that spot as it offers very good performance for its price. Although this isn't the worst either and it's certainly better than what Asus offered with their Nuc lol

[@torpedospurs]

2024 devices ought to have more than one Type C port IMO.

[@James73059]

I'd expect they would throw in more watts for the GPU, and/or a vapor chamber for cooling to compensate for the lack of screen and keyboard, I mean its basically a laptop.

[@alvinamana1459]

actually you can buy ya laptop with a 4070 for literally 1500 bucks and it comes with a screen and a keyboard an it will have the same specs and its portable. So yeah this doesn't really do anything good at all and a laptop is a far better and smarter decision. Its not okay for a mini pc at this price point its just a bare bones laptop and you still have to buy everything else for it to work

[@PixelBaller]

$1439 (intro sale price) is a rip off. This uses a laptop 4070 which performs well below a full sized desktop version. You can get an MSI Trident (which uses a desktop 4070 and is upgradeable) for a similar price.

[@TooFurious4]

It's a laptop without the screen and portability but for the same price. 😅

[@lettmons]

That's like saying exotic cars are a rip off. You are missing the point.

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

There is a barebones model

[@OC.TINYYY]

​@@TooFurious4actually worse in price. You can get a 4070 laptop for 1299 @ a few places.

[@Bandit1978]

@@lettmons If you put a Lambo body on a dodge neon it does not make it an exotic

[@SNKev411]

I’m gonna pick this up next year

[@Useful_failure]

Same, watch for flash sales!

[@SansBalance]

I wish content creators would add ‘M’ to ‘4070’ in titles when the GPU is the mobile version.

[@brandonrobinson3829]

He won't do that because he gets less views which means less shilling and thus less money.

[@alexandruserban3555]

TRUE its just a laptop

[@Par2Pixel]

@@alexandruserban3555 That was my first thought as he pulled it out of the box laptop without a screen

[@CCL4BELTTF]

I think nvidia is the one to blame..

[@HP-rc7jh]

If you listen it has more power than most laptops, especially the ones in its price range.. yes it’s an 8gb card but that is about the only minus imo

[@Robin35758]

Thank you for this review ETA. Your work is very professional.

[@jasonhemphill8525]

ETA Prime. Please test the games using consistent settings. It’s hard to gauge real world performance if you are constantly changing resolution/dlss/framegen. Also bring emulation testing back

[@brandonrobinson3829]

He won't cause he made a deal shilling these overpriced pc's for these chinese companies bro he has been doing this for three years now.

[@HP-rc7jh]

The only con of this beside the obvious of upgradability is the 8gb card. This thing is throwing some watts out! Definitely packs more of a punch the most laptop at this price range. 👏 to Atomman.

[@gbrown7464]

First off love this channel and mini PC's! However I don't understand the prices on these highend mini pc's. I get the manufacturing and scale of these system are very small and thus increasing the price but couldn't a laptop manufacture rework there process to remove and the screen/ keyboard/battery and sell something like this for half the price? I have to be missing something

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

If you check rn a Laptop with similar specs cost more than this unless that is it's on sale. Although I do wish they could've done something witha that price. But if they dropped the price on this one then The G7 PT which is a cheaper alternative would see less sales as it's weaker than the G7 Ti I guess

[@Exploding_Barrels]

You need to show the difference with frame gen on and off, all these settings are just confusing people

[@polarvortex6601]

they do this on purpose

[@tasty-ramen]

He wants to make it look as good as possible because he’s a shill

[@turboimport95]

frame gen usually Almost doubles the fps it would normally get. So 50-100% more fps then native.

[@PeterMisch-px7xi]

@@tasty-ramen Shill is the word here, sadly enough.

[@TheDuzx]

Frame gen is basically going to double the frames so just assume that the fps without frame gen will be half.

[@JayGaines5150]

You forgot to list the price $ with the specs.

[@leex187]

Bare bones about a grand but with 32gig ram and 1tb hdd 12 hundred

[@OblivionPrime]

He forgets every video

[@Pholoxo]

@@OblivionPrime Probably on purpose. Also prices do change so this is more of a review of the product itself. But a price label won't hurt though :|

[@OblivionPrime]

@@Pholoxo ik

[@NitekTech]

hi it 1279.00 on minisforum barebones you add ram and ssd and os or$ 1439 i9 14900 with 32gb and 1 tb ssd

[@marumisu9560]

That’s frikin beautiful

[@gamersruin]

It's nuts that Strix Halo is anticipated to have the same performance as this unit in a single APU at 66% the power draw.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

could be, if its 100w its very much worth to buy

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

this ones running 300w prob from wall

[@30LayersOfKevlar]

Could you not keep it on the side, with vents facing up. I guess you could 3d prints some attached legs, to keep it vent down, with some space for the air flow. They could have done it themselves. Interesting machine.

[@lukasjozef1774]

DOA, for that price I can get a gaming laptop or I could build a mini ITX gaming PC with way better performance.

[@DanielHayes-p2u]

It would be cool to attach a USB portable monitor on the side and have a Bluetooth keyboard Velcro to the other side, so you can turn it into a laptop

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

looks solid with best spec possible

[@IBCollection]

This is great to partner with their V3 tablet since it can be a monitor as well. Good for people who are traveling the world.

[@kawaiwong8021]

Any chance you could do a sort of ranking of Mini-PC video?

[@Sicksorrow87]

Ehhh staying away from any Intel chips for now... looks good though. Too bad no Ryzen flavor.

[@LeviathanFX1]

Agreed. Sure would love to run bazzite deck on a system like this

[@JuliTV123]

@Sicksorrow87 there's the g7 pt which comes with a fantastic ryzen 9 7945hx but the dgpu is the rx7600m which is lacking compared to the cpu. I just wish they released a revision of the amd variant with oculink too

[@michaelangelobrinez1321]

thanks for an excellent review.

[@gaming-zombie1392]

Awesome job with the driving on Game.....

[@TsarBomba69420]

Obviously haven't finished the video but I'm putting my bets on him not mentioning the price. Edit: By now, I have obviously finished the video.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

Just click the damn link. $1200 Which is really good for what this is

[@drewnewby]

@mechanicalmonk2020 That's barebone price $1279, it's $1439 as shown. Also, no, not a good deal, for a laptop board slapped in a cheap case.

[@TsarBomba69420]

@@mechanicalmonk2020 you're right, I just mean that's a spec I'd want mentioned.

[@MJosephJr]

These tend to go on sale. I got the previous model for under $1,000, the NUCXI7, and I love that computer. I use the Steam Deck for my portable needs.

[@drewnewby]

@MJosephJr This is the launch day sale price, they go up to $1800 after. This unit should be approx. $800 barebone or $900 with memory and storage to be competitive with laptops configured the same.

[@SB9426Plays]

Thumbnail 😮🔥

[@SukhJohal-t7t]

Good systems with great pricing

[@greenprotag]

What a beast! at least this one is slightly more economical than that new ASUS nuc, but you are still paying a slight premium for the form factor vs a desktop build. I love a good mini PC or custom ITX system... I wonder how this compares to a custom ITX.

[@xboxmaniac7443]

Thank you very for the video ! I was wondering from where can I buy in UK or at least see the product as looking very intriguing! Thank you again for showing us the item !

[@colossusrageblack]

The price is rough, you really gotta want the small footprint.

[@Scotty24198424]

While I love the idea of a console like PC and I don't mind that they are built on laptop parts I just don't understand why anyone would but one of these, on sale it is $1439, normal price is $1799, for $1439 you could buy a prebuilt PC that is way faster and upgradable.

[@koob1413]

yeah I think it’s cool, but can’t find a use case for it. every use case has a better alternative, so I’m kind of lost.

[@duomaxwell4340]

Not that small or compact

[@Hodge01]

Great and informative video! If you had to choose, which Mini PC would you choose/recommend, and why? A: Minisforum AtomMan G7 PT B: Minisforum AtomMan G7 Ti

[@albertwesker4266]

Nice...it can be watercooled :D :D

[@lld401]

Good video is there any overhead for over clocking the GPU?

[@johnnyr-518]

I don't mind 2x thicker if they can put an rtx 4080 in there. Excited for next year's model. I hope this becomes successful.

[@DevApps-p5l]

What is the video running in the background from 2:31? It looks absolutely gorgeous!

[@ktechnology9146]

Does this have an "NVidia RTX 4070 _graphics_ _card"_ or does it have a discrete/dedicated NVidia RTX 4070 _laptop_ _GPU?_

[@cubanodun2]

laptop gpu

[@yanushkowalsky1402]

hey hey hey we don't talk about the technical specification on this channel.

[@turboimport95]

laptop 4070 is probably like a desktop 4060. same way the the laptop 4090 is a desktop 4080

[@inertialframe3424]

Can you Run tarkov on it? Also do you think that an eGPU would work on this device?

[@XXsupervisor]

I don't buy laptops because of the fan noise. If these can solve that problem then I'd be interested

[@markusi.1927]

I have the predecessor Minisforum NUCXi7 and this one is INCREDIBLY quieter than a gaming notebook

[@XiBaXha]

@@markusi.1927Yes, it’s very quite. (32dbA)

[@sidesw1pe]

I recently had to downsize my work/gaming space and there is no room to fit my beautiful (but huge) gaming PC. I don’t even have space for a SFF PC. Now I’m looking for a gaming laptop, but I don’t need portability; the battery, display, keyboard and trackpad are pointless since I will have it always plugged in to mains power and use external peripherals. This sort of device seems more practical than a full gaming laptop.

[@koob1413]

how do you have room for a monitor, but no room for a SFF PC?

[@shockwaveriderz]

I wish you would have tested the m.2 temps and with them stacked it would be interesting to see what the temps would be.

[@AEAE8877]

Interesting that the GPU pulls 120w in games although its the same GPU which is in all 4070 laptops but which are pulling max. 100w in games. Would be interesting to know why thats the case.

[@drewnewby]

@AEAE8877 Many laptop 4070 mobile GPUs boost to 150 W. This is no different. Some laptops with 4070 mobile power limit to 100 W, but not most.

[@AEAE8877]

@@drewnewbySorry, you have no idea my friend. The maximum wattage is 115w+25w boost on 4070 mobile. So in total 140w. But that's not the question, ALL 4070 MOBILE GPUS ARE JUST PULLING 140WATT IN BENCHMARKS BUT IN GAMES THEY ARE PULLING JUST 100W MAX. But here it seems different.

[@drewnewby]

@AEAE8877 It's literally the same OEM laptop board, not even cooler changed. It's the same behavior depending on firmware configuration. I mistyped 150 W, correct 4070 mobile is 115 W +15-25 W boost.

[@vladkirichenko1844]

The only device i liked is minisforum docking station with oculink for video cards. Buy mini pc, power unit and you will have a portable powerful pc. Which you can even fit into your backpack in an emergency. The main thing is that you can change the video cards to any

[@gogoman27]

I think 1k would have been a good price for a laptop chassis without a screen or keyboard... About 2k... I don't know what the people at minisforum think they're going to sell... That price doesn't make sense...

[@subhuman3227]

Do you have any suggestions for the best rtx mini nuc pc that has silent fans or if you could compare all of them side by side to which is most quiet

[@jimkincaidz]

No USB 4/Thunderbolt 4 seems like a miss on this. Honestly, I don't understand how any new PC doesn't have that. How many monitors can it run?

[@Thicccolas_Cage]

Beautiful. I would like to see 4k gaming performance using frame gen. (DLSS and AMD)

[@martinbaumann9304]

@ETAPRIME I am interested in purchasing the Minisform AtomMan G7 Ti SE. I already had the previous model, the MINISFORUM NUCxi7. Unfortunately, the NUCxi7 did not have the Wake on LAN function. However, Wake on LAN is very important for me. Does the AtomMan G7 Ti SE have the Wake on LAN function? Kind regards

[@AndrewNYJ3CKO]

Could you give me an advice between the G7 Pt and the G7 Ti? thank you very much.

[@Deathend]

I love how these manufacturers throw in the highest end CPU they can get and then pair it with a mid grade GPU. Why not a mid grade CPU and a high end GPU?

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

imo its best for variety of usages, gpu only working usually in gaming, which would be a waste most of times if youre only pes or cs gamers

[@unexplained_entity7514]

because then it would be like twice the price so they could recoup the costs lol. Also most likely mean they'd have to make these things bigger which would kinda defeat the point, kinda what we saw with the Nuc 13 extreme

[@spacebarwasd9782]

Why you never mention the price when showing these products?

[@brandonrobinson3829]

Because he is a shill.

[@HunterM430]

I have an alienware x17 r2 i9 3070ti, the thing screams when gaming and is CONSTANTLY sitting at 100° when gaming. Is it worth upgrading to the atomman over this? I got a laptop because my house cant handle the full power of a gaming pc (its a very old house on a 60amp circut) is this a good pc to upgrade to?

[@JustHackingAround]

2:43 Wait so is it i7 or i9? I'm so confused. The box says i9, then you say i7 in the video.

[@ferteknocyberpunk]

that's crazy specs

[@Code-n-Flame]

Jesus so many people are missing the point with this machine. It's small and console sized. Any machine in this form will ALWAYS be more expensive than it's desktop counterpart.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

true its more pleasing to see esp in living room, unlike your full tower coolermaster hf case

[@unexplained_entity7514]

and not everyone will want a laptop. It's a niche market in a lot of ways, but still a market

[@rickbgrowerinb.c.7691]

What are the best choices for a Gtx1080ti between I5-9400, i7-8700 i7-8700k, or i7-9700k or is there a better option that won't be that difficult. Sorry for asking on this video but wants this question to be seen as I had a bait and switch situation for a computer and now have a gtx1080ti that I bought for it and nothing to put it in, please help.

[@rickbgrowerinb.c.7691]

Google says i need an lga1151 socket for the 1080ti but I see things saying it matches well with higher gen CPU's than would have motherboards with that socket.

[@carlosalexandre3942]

hey, just wanted to point out that chimeraos unstable is working on nvidia cards, its really buggy, but its working

[@pauleaton6420]

I’d consider to pay up if there were and variants. Especially the new chips that are coming

[@dkresheck]

For this form factor and price, I'd invest a little more and get a mini with an OCuLink eGPU and get a full size 4060/4070 super.

[@duomaxwell4340]

At that rate get a full sized pc mate

[@leo77hunter57]

Can u install steam deck os on it? If u can I will love to see it.❤❤❤❤

[@dvsteve71]

Does this have USB-C or Thunderbolt out? I use a Studio Display as my main display which has USB-C inputs.

[@shadow19121]

Same specs as the ROG nuc at nearly half the price. Also approximately the same price as a laptop counter part too give or take a $100. I order one to replace my Minisforum HX99G.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

true this one looks not bad too imo

[@Nosjamesmenzer]

Hey ETA prime I just wanted to give you a heads up you did one of your specs wrong you said it has a i7 when it's actually a i9 14900hx just thought I would let you know

[@wojciechszymanowski]

Laptop version is about on par with desktop 3060TI, so not really worth it imo.

[@D.u.d.e.r]

This thing even beats PS5 Pro, excellent value!

[@andreaspooky6183]

Pity for the GPU: 8gigs is a threshold for good 4k gaming...

[@symbiosis.]

what is the name of the animation you are playing on the monitor ?

[@nnation]

i can find stats on i7-14700hx & i9-14900hx, but not i7 14900hx, did u label wrong ?

[@DS-pk4eh]

It is mobile version of 4070, huge difference

[@wotanmituns33]

The concept is amazing, the pricing on the other hand not so much.

[@Neopulse00]

The only annoyance is the gigabit ethernet port. That is damn thin, it's like

[@crypto_que]

It comes with intel chips. IDK if it's the particular 14000 series or not, but there's been a recent discount to the price.

[@alvinamana1459]

This should be a replacement for play station with those specs. I'd rather keep my laptop or get a gaming rig lol. They were on to something with the size and specs but yet should have dropped this price.

[@andreaspooky6183]

Since this packs a 14th gen Intel, did they finally fix their latest systematic defect?

[@jt3000o]

No they have not fixed their manufacturing issues

[@andreaspooky6183]

​@@jt3000oNoice going. So why would anyone get one?

[@drewnewby]

@andreaspooky6183 No, they will not be correcting the architectural flaw. They will continue to release microcode updates to gradually bring the Raptor Lake SKUs down to a performance level where the defects are mitigated until after warranty.

[@JuliTV123]

​@andreaspooky6183 honestly no idea, after all the fuss, even an I5 has these issues in the long run, I'm avoiding any Intel cpu for now, we have the G7 PT at least

[@eltamarindo]

It is not yet clear whether the problem is solved. Intel has said that a microcode update (just released) would solve the problem but we will have to see. 14th generation was most affected according to Puget System's data.

[@Nahtotter]

Wow very interesting PC. And price is not bad

[@britishagent]

Unfortunately That’s the CPU with all the complaints.

[@shockwaveriderz]

Not this hx. It's the k and kf variants.

[@isl0w3]

2:40 to 3:20, can you change the text to i9-14900hx?

[@AndrewxShinn]

What if they added a built in screen and keyboard. Then they might have something.

[@mohanedbabiker8875]

I was waiting for this review but you didn’t review emulation performance Could you try installing Botocera ?

[@shadow19121]

I got mine barebones for $1229 with $50 coupon. I already have the other components. Yes I could have probably gotten a laptop for a similar price.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

Same, grabbed it when it came up. Folk saying about a laptop are completely missing the point in my opinion. No laptop with that footprint will be able to maintain anything like that performance without thermal throttling. I don't need a screen, battery, keyboard and mouse. I'd rather the budget go into providing the stuff I do need and making it run well.

[@subhuman3227]

Were the fans loud while testing these?

[@P90Camper]

How does this compare with the ASUS NUC with 4070?

[@antondovydaitis2261]

This looks like a very interesting machine. From what I recall from Jarrod's Tech laptop reviews, the RTX 4070 mobile compares favorably the desktop version, and performs well at lower power. I am, however, skeptical about the Intel mobile CPU.

[@jbjuhibiv1047]

the mobile 13th and 14th gen intel cpus do not have the overvolting and instabillity crashes like with the desktop variant

[@roshanpereira7650]

Do linux test on this especially test put nvidia drivers, and do speed test comparison between g7 ti and g7 pt

[@user-cm3wd5hk1p]

I get everyone’s opinion about this compared to a full blown laptop. One thing I see this as good for though is small 1U gaming PCs to put in a rack for game streaming at home.

[@axescar]

Why do I need 24 cores in gaming SFF? Why not something like 7800x3d or other 8 core part?

[@drewnewby]

@axescar They're getting these Raptor Lake mobile SKUs for next to nothing at this point. Minisforum waits for OEMs to move on to newer generation SKUs in their laptops, then buys at the tail end for their mini PCs.

[@ArcticSquash]

Basically a 1,500$ laptop without a screen, amazing

[@wric01]

Good candidate to do a silent mod.

[@cyberman60]

No DP, can't hook up my PCVR Headset

[@silpex92]

... so this is a fancy notebook without screen.

[@leex187]

We wanna see Black Wu Kong ETA see if it can play that

[@NelsonGuedes]

Can it run Cities Skylines 2 and Starfield?

[@felipeoliveira895]

It's sad to see that this channel has lost its essence since long ago. It used to have legit reviews and analysis that were of consumer's interests. Now it is more of a infomercial to favor the sponsors than anything else. You can even see that his videos are used by the sponsors on their product page. Cool to see new products, but I have to look for other channels to check the products pros and cons and their real limitations.

[@jt3000o]

It's $1,900 featuring a processor that is going to decay featuring a mid to low range GPU makes complete sense

[@polarvortex6601]

agree

[@DD-no3ep]

Why does he never say the price?

[@jeremy__hopkins]

To be fair, right now is a really rough time to invest in new hardware. We're only a few months away from when new processors and GPUs are going to be announced. Good time to sell. Not a great time to buy.

[@rckp9619]

Worse than that, it's not upgradable AND you can build a mini pc yourself with way better performance for the money.

[@Bajicoy]

I see the price as $1280 barebones and $1440 with 32GB RAM and 1TB storage in the USA

[@codyrap95]

These mini PC's stop making sense when they are no more "mini" and not much cheaper than a laptop...

[@maniphaces]

Can this usb4 type c take an external GPU?

[@Leeki85]

This has mobile RTX 4070. It has similar performance to RTX 4060. Definitely not worth the price. If you build your own PC, maximizing gaming performance, you'll get double the FPS for the same price. You can also build a PC with similar performance for half the price or get a similar laptop for just s bit more. Overall these Mini gaming PCs are a waste of money.

[@jbjuhibiv1047]

they arent if you dont have much desk place to place a full sized PC, also they have better cooling than gaming laptops, which means they wont thermal throttle or shutdown from overheating

[@Leeki85]

@@jbjuhibiv1047 You can build small ITX PCs if you really don't have a lot of space, but honestly I can't image a scenario where you can't fit a desktop PC. Unless you're living in a micro apartament, though they're not a thing in my country so I can't relate. Anyway normal PC can be upgraded and holds value longer. It's also easier to sell it, since you can sell each part separately and keep it useful for as long as you want, since you don't need to replace everything at once. Desktop PCs are the most convenient way to use a computer in the long run and they're quiet, since you can install larger coolers that are affordable (40 USD or less). As for small PC you can get used thin client really cheap (home server or Batocera retro gaming) or brand new one with Intel N100 for about 100 USD. These are very energy efficient and fast enough for most desktop tasks and 4K video playback and some lightweight gaming.

[@soulsbourne]

Man.. if only it was ryzen

[@yanushkowalsky1402]

there's already ryzen version available with weaker gpu. atom man g7 pt

[@duomaxwell4340]

Whats wrong with intel mate

[@yanditriputra1905]

Amazing

[@krazyatom]

It's basically a laptop without a screen but cost same as similar spec'ed laptops with screen. I would just buy a laptop.

[@tebo2286]

I have the first iteration of this mini pc that was released two years ago, with it's limited I/O, cable management is a nightmare. Two years later aint a damn thing changed. Sure, the internals are upgraded but the overall design is still a terrible eyesore when fully setup given its price. IMHO, I think the new Asus gaming NUC has better design aesthetics when compared to the G7Ti that said, I'm not an Asus fan boy. Regardless of the G7Ti's performance prowess, it's a hard pass for me.