The Last of Us Thoughts : Mediocrity Masquerading as Mastery

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@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 6 жыл бұрын
17:31 since I can't add annotations this part is actually supposed to be, "So is the last of us the worst game ever made? Of course not! It's a mediocre game, with interesting ideas, and a decent story, with good characters, but that's all it is, mediocre" instead of "So is the last of us the worst game ever made? Of course not! It's a good game, with good ideas, and a good story, with good characters, but that's all it is, good." This line was actually from a far earlier draft of this video where I was actually a little less critical about the game overall. Since the initial video didn't really reflect my true feelings, a lot of it changed, but somehow I forgot to edit out that line. My apologies for any confusion that this line may cause, but since I can't edit the video, or add any annotations I'll just pin this comment. In either case thanks for watching and listening XD
@Aringtorulethemall
@Aringtorulethemall 5 жыл бұрын
Still the best analysis of this game by a Longshot.
@wordsshackles441
@wordsshackles441 4 жыл бұрын
You see, that's kinda funny, because, when I watched your video, and heard that passage about the game being supposedly 'good', I thought that the statement was at odds with the excellent points you were making throughout your video. I thought to myself, perhaps he should have said "descent', or 'mediocre'. Well, here it is. My man!
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 4 жыл бұрын
@@bendovahkiin8405 Someone didn't watch the video
@Deafwing
@Deafwing 4 жыл бұрын
@Vayne Carudas Solidor exactly! I thought that exactly as I was playing! Like, this human being (Joel) is a piece of shit and we're supposed to care about him? What about all the people he killed? He probably murdered entire families and we're supposed to care for him?!
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 4 жыл бұрын
You lost me at calling the characters good... they are trash. Ellie is trash
@willthomas2310
@willthomas2310 5 жыл бұрын
It's a good game, but people severely overhype this game's gameplay and story. It's no where near a "masterpiece" or "The Best game of all Time" like people claim.
@liFE-gt6or
@liFE-gt6or 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed it’s a really good interactive movie with fantastic voice acting but the gameplay mechanics and “puzzles” are very lackluster to say the least ( I still think overall it’s a really good game just not Resident evil 4/Witcher 3 masterpiece level )
@breakingnewsyou6870
@breakingnewsyou6870 5 жыл бұрын
It kinda was but the game seemed copied hmmm
@ajaysm2902
@ajaysm2902 5 жыл бұрын
@@liFE-gt6or sure a pc gamer would say that
@spectrexr1
@spectrexr1 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@justlloyd7881
@justlloyd7881 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajaysm2902 Why do people a lot of gamers have this idiotic idea that if you don't like a Sony exclusive, for good reasons, that you're suddenly a PC/XBox guy?...
@Megumi_Bandicoot
@Megumi_Bandicoot 5 жыл бұрын
“Mediocrity Masquerading as Mastery” Naughty Dog in a nutshell.
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover 5 жыл бұрын
I love this comment. Naughty Dog are the most overrated developer of all time.
@TheCyclicGamer
@TheCyclicGamer 5 жыл бұрын
@@Miyakolover Their Jak and Daxter games were the last great things they made. Uncharted is ok, but just like LOU, it uses parts of it's medium as weaknesses as opposed to strength.
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCyclicGamer I agree.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
@@Miyakolover True, one part of Naughty Dog's fanbase is cool but the other one is just annoying. I just recently saw someone saying on a video that The Last of Us was overrated and a Naughty Dog fanboy answered him "Go play Fortnite or FIFA kiddo". Also. Naughty Dog fans often says "Naughty Dog don't make fun of us and always give us what was promised" and when a video called "Naughty Dog downgrades" came out to show that it's not the case. It got a VERY high dislike ratio while literally everything on it is totally true.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCyclicGamer In fact. The Uncharted games also suffered from this but personally. What made me appreciate the series was the fun I had with them (even though I don't think they were amazing games or masterpieces neither). Uncharted 2 and 3 had amazingly fun action scenes and entertained me for a while. Uncharted 1 was also pretty fun in it's time but it had so many flaws that it didn't age well at all. Uncharted 4 has the best gameplay of the series but had terribly boring pacing. I can't remember any action scene beside the Madagascar's jeep chase. I also had fun on Uncharted 2 and 3 multiplayer mode while Uncharted 4 multiplayer was garbage. Haven't play The Lost Legacy (because I'm pretty sure it's gonna be just like Uncharted 4) so I can't say anything about it. I didn't really enjoyed Naughty Dog games for their story but now. They just concentrate on creating story driven games and they forget the most important point of a game which is "gameplay" and the worst part is that they don't even create great storylines. They create games with great characterization but the story they create never were anything to praise. And I'm pretty sure that The Last of Us Part II is just gonna turn out the same.
@aleksandaraleksandrov324
@aleksandaraleksandrov324 5 жыл бұрын
Just finished the game and searched on youtube "tlou is overrated" to validate that I'm not crazy. Didn't like the game mechanicly and the story was average for me. Maybe it's because it's 2019 but the Witcher is also not a recent title but is 100 times better in every way imo.
@plapkoki4119
@plapkoki4119 5 жыл бұрын
It doesnt Matter that its 2019 unfharted 3 is waaayyy more fun than tlou
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
@@plapkoki4119 True. TLOU is pretty boring.
@spectrexr1
@spectrexr1 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@Daniel-Rain-YT
@Daniel-Rain-YT 5 жыл бұрын
Glitcher 3 has one of the worst gameplays ever made lol
@tonyeleaglenurmagomedov4550
@tonyeleaglenurmagomedov4550 5 жыл бұрын
Shutup
@Josh-si6ds
@Josh-si6ds 4 жыл бұрын
The Last Of Us is the MCU of video games. It's the normie/popular thing to say is "the best thing ever" even though there are thousands of better titles that take full advantage of its medium. The Last of Us was just a wannabe Oscar movie, that's it
@greenwizard7592
@greenwizard7592 4 жыл бұрын
Joshington I personally like most Marvel movies, but anyone who says the stories are amazing are full of shit. I watch the movies for the action, the stories are pretty much always the same.
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
@@greenwizard7592 Most marvel movies are trash
@Narukami930
@Narukami930 3 жыл бұрын
Even i found some fanboys saying that TLOU has more Complex lore than the entire Metal Gear series.
@shadowstrike234
@shadowstrike234 3 жыл бұрын
Having a popular opinion doesn't make a person a normie. I could say that Hydroxychloroquine can help in preventing the Coronavirus. Doesn't make me a normie.
@shadowstrike234
@shadowstrike234 3 жыл бұрын
@@Narukami930 Okay yeah that's way too far
@mathiasvoorhees6232
@mathiasvoorhees6232 4 жыл бұрын
Some idiot was comparing this to the ending of Godfather, calling it a tear-jerking masterpiece.
@NDB.Lover.
@NDB.Lover. 4 жыл бұрын
lmao the funny thing is i've watched that video your talking about.
@Darkstormsun9865
@Darkstormsun9865 4 жыл бұрын
Really? How was it tear jerking? It was so predictable. It would have been a much better ending if she died. Joel's friend died for NOTHING. Excellent story telling right?
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 4 жыл бұрын
Frosty Phasing Who said that?
@NDB.Lover.
@NDB.Lover. 4 жыл бұрын
Railen Herman I’ll try find it but they were dissing the last of us 2 saying how the first one was tear-jerking then showed some clips of the godfather
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 4 жыл бұрын
Frosty Phasing Nvm then. Don’t want spoilers.
@LordRapter
@LordRapter Жыл бұрын
6 years later, this video is still 100% on point. The Last of Us is not a bad game, it never was. But thats it. Its a good game. Its not a genre defining masterpiece. It never was and it will never will be. The elements of the game are mediocre at best. The characters are good, the narrative is very good too. But the game is not the masterpiece everyone said it is. Its based on the emotional feeling people have about this game. But if you look at it a bit less emotional(like in this video) you see, that it can't hold a candle to all the genere defining, innovative games of the past, that actually made an huge impact on the gaming industry. "The Last of Us" at least done one execeptional thing: Its the most overhyped and overrated game of all time!
@Vizible21
@Vizible21 Жыл бұрын
Same with the show. It's a mediocre story but is way over hyped.
@nicola4251
@nicola4251 Жыл бұрын
The narrative is very good? Not getting it.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
Not really. It is a genre defining masterpiece. It was and always will be. No they are pretty great actually. it is a masterpiece. No it is based on facts. It can hold a candle to all the genere defining, innovative games of the past, that actually made an huge impact on the gaming industry. It does multiple exceptional things and it is not the most overhyped and overrated game of all time but it may be a little overrated.
@BigCoagulatedGravyHotDog
@BigCoagulatedGravyHotDog Жыл бұрын
"...But thats it. Its a good game." *"The elements of the game are mediocre at best"* No. It's a horrible game. When the basic elements that make up the game are mediocre(meaning = "Of only moderate quality; *not very good.")* then the game is trash. I've been gaming for over 20 years and The Last of Us is one of the worst games I have ever played in my entire life. It's shockingly bad considering how much praise this game gets. The story is good, the characters are well-written and acted, the graphics are amazing(I played the recent PC port) but none of that matters AT ALL when the gameplay is a tedious, boring slog with dumb and nonsensical mechanics. Resident Evil 4 did the whole shooting zombie game better, Fallout 3 & New Vegas did the whole post-apocalyptic world better, and even Saints Row 2 had far better shooting mechanics, despite it being half a decade older than TLOU. I've never played such an over-rated and poorly designed slog of a game in my entire life. Story makes no difference if the gameplay isn't good. I have no idea when people started playing video games for the story, the most important aspect of any game *should* be the gameplay. Having a good story is a plus, but it should never be the main selling point. If I don't enjoy the game for its gameplay, I'm not gonna care about the story.
@jimiperlas3215
@jimiperlas3215 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigCoagulatedGravyHotDog Facts 100%
@manzanito3652
@manzanito3652 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I like the game but it doesn't deserve any 10,it isn't the "citizen Kane from videogames", a masterpiece or a perfect game. But like every video which doesn't praise Last of us,will be attacked by "smart aeguments" like: -you are a hater; -you hate videogames -you aren't able to see why this is a masterpiece because blablabla... -you don't want videogames to evolve And my favourite -your copy of Last of us or your ps3 are defective. Mine works perfect.
@Devilsblood
@Devilsblood 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, I think I enjoyed Naughty dogs uncharted more than Last of us. I just don't see how last of us would have more depth than a traditional RPG, which is all about character development. I look at last of us and all I see is Resident evil with less monsters.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
And there's also the argument of "you are an Xbox fanboy" or "Go play Fortnite, kid". I don't like Xbox exclusives and I found that the PS4 had way better exclusives, I don't like Fortnite neither. But most of the time me or someone else said that we found TLOU to be overrated. Those 2 arguments were the ones that were used against us.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
@@Devilsblood I agree.
@justlloyd7881
@justlloyd7881 5 жыл бұрын
@@frozenwine9317 Dude!! That "You're an XBox fanboy" argument drives me up the wall. Why are some people so simple minded?...
@reeceburns8077
@reeceburns8077 4 жыл бұрын
@@Devilsblood yeah I'm gonna blame Neil druckman for this because he did the last of us and took over for uncharted 4 which he fucking ruined by focusing on more cutscenes then gameplay
@0grilo0
@0grilo0 4 жыл бұрын
this video aged like fine wine.
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
Considering tlou 2 and its writing.
@k-la-k6828
@k-la-k6828 4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I hated the first game, but loved the second one. Please don't kill me.
@0grilo0
@0grilo0 4 жыл бұрын
@@k-la-k6828 thats ok why would anyone kill you for liking diferent things... well ok as a VR owner that hates half life alyx... i can relate... but no you do you...
@infamouscrusader3363
@infamouscrusader3363 3 жыл бұрын
@@k-la-k6828 The second one was a disappointment. The first one is decent.
@jluck1399
@jluck1399 3 жыл бұрын
@@k-la-k6828 MAJOR L
@アンマー
@アンマー Жыл бұрын
This video is aging like fine wine. Every now and then and whenever a new "Emotional Story-Driven" AAA game releases I return to it and rewatch it again. Totally agree with the content.
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 Жыл бұрын
So besides God of War Ragnarok. What other recent emotional story games came out? Are games not allowed to have emotion??? Try some shadow if the colossus or Metal Gear, normie
@アンマー
@アンマー Жыл бұрын
@Frog Glen it's funny how you call me "normie" even though you don't know me or what a gamer I am just because I touched with the tip of my finger your pagan totem you worship vehemently without reason. And this describes you well indeed.
@zafranakram3098
@zafranakram3098 Жыл бұрын
@@アンマー 🤓
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
Not really it was never true.
@davettawilliams2104
@davettawilliams2104 Жыл бұрын
@@frogglen6350 🤓
@MariusUrucu
@MariusUrucu 8 жыл бұрын
You'll get a lot of hate for this (judging from the dislikes), but I agree with everything you said. My gripe with TLOU is how "meh" the gameplay is. Not great, not bad, just "meh". I'm the gameplay first kind of gamer and not much into story-driven games. And if the game is more story focused, I hope the gameplay complements the story, not hinders it. Back to the TLOU, I could just say "Screw it, not my kind of game" and avoid all the fanboys, but now we've reached a point where the influence of TLOU gameplay style is just out of hand. Look no further than the new God of War trailer... And people are praising it too. Apparently nobody cares about gameplay anymore and will accept anything different from the gameplay of the original series, no matter how worse the gameplay is in the new one...
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
The God of War 4 trailer was honestly the catalyst for the creation of this video. I don't think the last of us is a bad game by any means, but seeing the industry treat it as some sort of gold standard is truly disheartening from my perspective. There's so much that can be done within the realm of video games, yet developers have decided to take the easy way out by attempting to create films, as opposed to games.
@MariusUrucu
@MariusUrucu 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, it bugs me too how some devs try so hard to make their games feel like "movies", while cheapening the inherent advantage of videogames, which is interactivity. Heck, there are games that not only have a good story with a compelling narrative, but also have satisfying gameplay too. The Prince of Persia series, Bioshock series (yes, even Infinite), Darksiders 1 and 2, heck even freaking Undertale, simple as it is, are just like that. And these are only examples from the top of my head, there are so many more games like this. Regarding the new God of War, please check out "THE GOD OF WAR 4 RANT" by TheGamingBritShow (can't post any links because KZbin don't like it...). It's a really informative video about the state of AAA games today and also very funny. :)
@Aladelicous
@Aladelicous 8 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Gaming Brit's God of War 4 rant?
@MariusUrucu
@MariusUrucu 8 жыл бұрын
+Aladelicous More than once actually. It's just a funny video in general, albeit, in a sad ironic way.
@Aladelicous
@Aladelicous 8 жыл бұрын
Marius Urucu Whoops, didn't see the entirety of your earlier post. My phone seems to cut off youtube messages randomly sometimes.
@simondoe2772
@simondoe2772 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Telltale's Walking Dead had a way better story. Better side characters, villains, music, art design, locations, and more originality.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 3 ай бұрын
As hilariously baby-level its gameplay was, at least its branching paths gave you a feeling of player input.
@Matheusss89
@Matheusss89 3 жыл бұрын
This game came just when publications and some developers were trying really hard to impress movie critics, then saw TLOU as the second coming of Christ in gaming form. Lots of people seem to confuse being emotionally invested in a story with the game itself being great too. I've heard so many hyperbolic statements about how this is the greatest thing of all time that it's not even funny. Great review BTW. Really liked the arguments, and how you didn't focus on the story only like many do.
@chezblunts
@chezblunts Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@dennisgordon7767
@dennisgordon7767 Жыл бұрын
Good argument. I am about 90 minutes in. There is a reason im here. It dawned on my i feel like i am playing a tunnel maze runner game. This contrasted with the freedom of Days Gone that just felt FUN, i came to a realization i need to see some longplay to understand where its going. And lo and behold - it was more of the same - move ladders, dumpsters, silent take down zombies. This last part especially feels so outdated to me - i dont want to sneak around a room with 5 soldiers or zombies playing hide and seek. It isnt fun. So yeah i dont plan to play it more. Graphics is amazing though with such attention to surroundings.
@daegnaxqelil2733
@daegnaxqelil2733 Жыл бұрын
the gameplay still loàoks effrective to me , youjust have to hang on it
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
I understand that my views on TLOU aren't popular, but hopefully those of you who disagree can at least understand my rationale here. Whether you agree, or disagree thanks for watching, and listening :)
@Sleetysleetman
@Sleetysleetman 8 жыл бұрын
That's more of a positive thing than anything else, because TLOU isn't nearly as good as the media and its fanbase makes it out be, that's just obvious
@herohiralal3255
@herohiralal3255 8 жыл бұрын
You should try />/ (here's the link - facebook.com/groups/1647887252105675/ ) almost everyone there dislikes TLOU for the same reasons that you do. That it not being a game and being a film. Or you can just search ">implying we can discuss video games" on Facebook if you don't wanna use the link.
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely be sure to check it out. Sounds pretty interesting.
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
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@herohiralal3255
@herohiralal3255 8 жыл бұрын
+AtrophyOfSoul lmao come on now both of us know you expected these kind of replies before you even started making a video denouncing the "citizen kane of videogames".
@JmanRising
@JmanRising 7 жыл бұрын
It's funny how any other game with AI this dissapointing would be crucified, but Naughty dog gets a free pass and endless praise instead. I guess everyone just forgot about the overhyped AI from the E3 demo. What if Fear had AI this dissapointing? You know it would have been bashed endlessly for it and forgotten. It just goes to show how little AI has progressed in a decade of gaming.
@somedudeonearth4978
@somedudeonearth4978 6 жыл бұрын
Jman Rising "It just goes to show how little AI has progressed in a decade of gaming" That sounds a little too dramatic.
@JmanRising
@JmanRising 6 жыл бұрын
Some dude on earth It really wasn't though, Fear is a 2005 game. What games since then have had just as good if not better AI since then? I genuinely want to know.
@somedudeonearth4978
@somedudeonearth4978 6 жыл бұрын
Jman Rising - Breath of the Wild, Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem Fates Conquest, these are some examples of games with good AI that I can think of. I don't know if you can compare the AI of these games with the AI of FEAR though.
@raulquiroz7492
@raulquiroz7492 5 жыл бұрын
@@JmanRising It comes down to the game programmers. If their scripting isn't good neither will their AI...graphics aside.
@RaidenKyo
@RaidenKyo 5 жыл бұрын
Jman Rising We are in an era where games are trying to be movies so I’m pretty sure Ai could be great but barely any developers are trying tho
@crimsoneye575
@crimsoneye575 4 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody agrees that a good story means very little in the face of subpar or mediocre gameplay.
@unnamed715
@unnamed715 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 Then why would you give it an 8? It's a 6 at best.
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 4 жыл бұрын
The story wasn’t even good but I get what you’re saying
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 4 жыл бұрын
kind nice to see someone elaborate on the stuff that bothered me in this game. i had to drop it for 3 months and pick it up later because i felt this game wasn't fun enough and dragged for way, way too long.
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many people saying how gameplay isn’t important if the story is good which is such a stupid way to view games
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
The story sucked
@vyrenvygolo2429
@vyrenvygolo2429 4 жыл бұрын
Thats why i hate most PS exclusives besides Spider-Man and Bloodborne. The gameplay its there to compliment the story, not the story complimenting the gameplay.
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man ps4 sucked
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 4 жыл бұрын
What about God of War 2018?
@kimjuanjun7124
@kimjuanjun7124 4 жыл бұрын
@@ulfberht4431 Worst bosses ever
@LPjunemark
@LPjunemark 4 жыл бұрын
@@ulfberht4431 god of soy is just a rip off of tlou, in short garbage.
@theotherbeatle707
@theotherbeatle707 3 жыл бұрын
@@V_For_Vigilante facts but Bloodborne plays very differently from Souls and the design of world is different
@unnamed715
@unnamed715 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It's an over glorified interactive movie with decent graphics.
@Rex67Diego9
@Rex67Diego9 5 жыл бұрын
And good voice acting
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover 5 жыл бұрын
The gameplay is pretty much an interactive movie...though I wish the story was actually good...95% of it is filler with an ending that makes the whole journey pointless and a waste of time. Edit: To elaborate further just because some asshole is accusing me of having "Nothing concrete" about my statement; here is an elaboration of what I meant by stating the story is "95% filler"; this is done just so rational people would understand what I'm getting at. 1. What was the point of the character of Tess? Her introduction added nothing to the overall narrative and she died very early on in the game; even her "sacrifice" amounted to nothing considering that Joel and Ellie still had to deal with the soldiers inside the building they were at anyway; Even when Bill asks about her, Joel simply acts like it's not important and doesn't even mentions her death; as if the game is admitting that character isn't important at all. 2. The whole part with Bill and trying to get him to fix a car engine for a car was also very pointless. Because after getting the car working...it gets destroyed in the next scene and Joel and Ellie still had months before they reached their destination...I guess Neil's Drucmann's priority was letting us know that Bill was a "queer"...Yeah...cool...and? 3. Sam and his little brother could have been interesting and the game actually does a decent job with introducing them and having them working together with Joel and Ellie; but then what happens right when you're starting to warm up to them? Both of them die and the screen fades to black and they're never mentioned again. 4. When Joel and Ellie reach the part where Joel is reunited with his brother again; they could have done something good with it and they did when it was revealed that Joel didn't want Ellie in his life because she was causing him pain; but it was ruined because of how fast the situation was resolved. Just right after Joel told her that, in the next scene and for NO REASON he was "feeling bad" about it and decides to continue the journey with Ellie. You see, sure...the character "Growth" here was pretty forced and didn't come off naturally. 5. The part where Joel and Ellie get to the University where the Fireflies HQ originally was before they found out they moved to another place...It's pretty much a "Your princess is in another castle moment. 6. I am going to ignore the fact that Joel shouldn't have survived what happened to him in the previous chapter (Not without blood transfusion and someone who can fix internal bleeding wounds) and how a 14 year old like Ellie was massacring dozens of the infected and veteran hunters all by herself even though she doesn't have enough combat experience for such a feat (Heck, even with Joel I thought the game was stretching it); or Joel, still wounded was able to over power two men...Basically, I am going to ignore all of the implausible writing in this chapter, But the worst thing about this chapter was the fact that it was totally pointless and was just stretching the game's overall time...there was no payoff to it whatsoever, just Joel and Ellie getting into more trouble with the infected and hunters...even David is just like any other thug in the game trying to kill/rape Ellie, only difference is that he has a name. 7. The ending is pretty much a situation where NOTHING happens and it makes the whole journey pointless to the point that the outcome of finishing the journey is the same as it never happening at all...If Joel and Ellie DIED or sat on their asses and did nothing...then guess what...the outcome will be the same. I don't have any trouble with Joel's decision on a morale level because you CAN make a good story and ending with such characters making such decision; but the main issue here is that it made the whole game a waste of time and nothing was accomplished in the end. Some people like to use the tired "But it was about the relationship between Joel and Ellie!" excuse...but guess what, these two's relationship story have ended BEFORE the winter chapter...and Joel have already proven he loves her by saving her over and over again from the Hunters and infected, so from a writing stand-point he didn't need to prove it one more time by killing more people in the end and making the whole journey pointless. 8. What's worse for me was the fact that our protagonists didn't seem to have any emotional investment in their journey at all and it made me wonder what was the point of going through all the dangers of going through it? Joel is clearly wasn't invested emotionally in it hence why it was so easy for him to change his mind when he learned it would kill Ellie to have the vaccine extracted from her. Ellie easily believed Joel's lying to her about the truth of what happened in the Fireflies HQ without much questioning...and her mentioning Riley in the end and her "waiting her turn to die" was pretty much too late for the party at this point and had no weight behind it whatsoever. That's just the entire summary.
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
@@Miyakolover wow. 95%? way to make your opinion believable and not biased.
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover 4 жыл бұрын
@@vengadorperomassabio338 Because that's the truth. 95% of the game is just Joel and Ellie going from one place to the next just getting in trouble with the hunters and the infected; the story doesn't pick up before the final chapter...the majority is just a filler inbetween the prologue and epilogue.
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
@@Miyakolover meh. just like any video game. You just superficially summarized the game and I can do that to any of your fav games.
@OfficialAbass
@OfficialAbass 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. It's just a stealth game with a mediocre and simple story. I thought it was going to be an unreal experience but holy fuck it was inflated.
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 11 ай бұрын
Mediocre story? People are still saying this? This “mediocre” story was praised and beloved by just putting on a a HBO show.
@ghost-j4r
@ghost-j4r 8 ай бұрын
​@@Indigo_1001 ok and?
@maniac4658
@maniac4658 5 ай бұрын
I tried to like it as well, but it feels like a bunch of cutscenes separated by broken gameplay
@pinealdreams1064
@pinealdreams1064 4 жыл бұрын
This, this and more this. I'm getting a little sick of 'cinematic games' being instantly heralded as masterpieces, even if the game kinda sucks. I completed The Last of Us in two sittings, because the actual gameplay was soooo simplistic I barely ever cocked it up or got caught. I know some people say the harder difficulty is where it's at, but your normal difficulty should at least provide some sort of challenge. Playing games like Breath of The Wild, Dark Souls, Bloodborne - those three are three of my favourites. What do they all have in common? A strong emphasis on gameplay mechanics over narrative.
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough though even though breath of the wild, dark souls, and bloodborne don’t focus on the story and narrative but still have better stories than most games while having great gameplay and characters.
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
DarkSonic180 but that isn’t true
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
DarkSonic180 the game is great with or without the title I saw how different this game looked and though it would say but I was surprised that it was actually a great game. Can you explain what you didn’t like about it?
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
DarkSonic180 the world is only empty after you have explored everything most of the time if you search an area for a little bit you can find something new after fifty or so hours I found an entire village hidden in the bottom of the map. Most of the shrine puzzles suck but there are some good shrine quests that make it much more interesting and they are about a third of the shrine quests. There is a waypoint that says exactly where to go and when you are done with that and search for shrines you can find them all on your own because they are giant glowing orange rocks. For story there is quite a bit but you have to explore and talk to people to learn it.
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
Dark souls and bloodbored are trash
@BurnedRetinas
@BurnedRetinas 6 жыл бұрын
The Last of Us is one of the most overhyped 6.9/10 video games of the modern era. It's decent, but the Fear Effect games are better at presenting an interesting sci-fi noir narrative, and great visual direction style with solid gameplay.
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 6 жыл бұрын
Dude the Fear Effect games were badass. I haven't played them in forever though
@BurnedRetinas
@BurnedRetinas 6 жыл бұрын
AtrophyOfSoul They feel a little aged and stiff, but are otherwise still pretty cool, I think.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 4 жыл бұрын
I recently saw 3 video that made a list of "Best Games of the Decade" and Gamingbolt and WatchMojo putted The Last of Us in the top 5 games and every single PlayStation exclusives were placed lower than TLOU on this list and GamesRadar has outright putted The Last Of Us at #1. And while presenting the game, they not only praised it's story but also it's gameplay mechanics. I think we can all agree that The Last of Us is one of the most overrated games ever if not the most overrated game ever.
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
why isn't tlou the best one? especially that it was done on the ps3. don't give vague answers like "gameplay is meh" explain why EXACTLY it is not the best exclusive
@dragonnn9788
@dragonnn9788 4 жыл бұрын
@@vengadorperomassabio338 because it isnt
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonnn9788 thanks. I didn't know hahahaaha
@jakistyp7523
@jakistyp7523 4 жыл бұрын
@@vengadorperomassabio338 this video is your answer lmao
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakistyp7523 almost everything is wrong with the video
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 4 жыл бұрын
I agreed with you. Videogames are about gameplay, interactivity must be the primary focus. One can like the stories presented, but if you play games for the story, you are playing wrong, dude. Cinematic experience should be something subjectivity from it, instead of objectivity like we see all those fools trying to copy.
@djdeadbeat4380
@djdeadbeat4380 5 жыл бұрын
You ask for a masterpeice? I say Bioshock. Everyone else says The Last of Us. I enjoyed the Last of Us enough, but I got a little disinfranchised when everyone started saying it was the Citizen Kane of video games. Everyone I knew was saying how mind blowing the plot twist at the end if the game was as well and saying how it was the best twist they had ever seen. I personally think Bioshock's twist was a lot more unexpected and ground shaking. The twist at the end of The Last of Us relies on heavy emotional connection, which is how so many twists work, but I think Bioshock's twist is that much better because it isn't based in emotional attachment to the character(s), but rather on your understanding of the core setup of the game. You enemy is not who you think and you've been deceived since the moment you started the game.
@clearlywrong6520
@clearlywrong6520 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your standpoint. However, for myself, I still depend on a good gameplay cycle if I’m to remain invested in a game on top of good story. Gameplay and story depend on each other like your skeleton and your muscles. Those lovely biceps won’t mean jack and shit if you’ve got brittle bone disease.
@djdeadbeat4380
@djdeadbeat4380 5 жыл бұрын
@@clearlywrong6520 oh I completely agree. Bioshock's gameplay was pretty innovative at the time of its release. It kept me engaged because of its gameplay. Besides the masterful twist near the end of the game, the plot of Bioshock (the first one) is pretty basic. Some might even consider it uninteresting. I, however, thinj the Last of Us lacks in both outstanding gameplay and story. Neither are bad by a long shot, they just aren't absolutely amazing like everyone seems to think.
@clearlywrong6520
@clearlywrong6520 5 жыл бұрын
@DJ Deadbeat Very much the experience I had revisiting it last summer. As Bill, that crazy friend of Joel’s, put it, there are parts in this game. Parts that if rearranged better or flowed naturally, it would’ve felt better overall. The stealth and survival didn’t mix with the action sequences, the map layout conflicted with the combat mechanics, the story had too many tropes and improbable scenarios to keep me going, and the suspension of disbelief asked a fair bit too much from me (_cough cough_ Joel getting impaled on exposed rebar).
@vengadorperomassabio338
@vengadorperomassabio338 4 жыл бұрын
Bioshock is awesome,but its gameplay it's exactly what tlou is. Both are survival horror (except different camera views) with stealth elements.
@nikolasferreira3247
@nikolasferreira3247 4 жыл бұрын
@@vengadorperomassabio338 the gameplay is not the same, bioshock is a fast paced action shooter with survival elements(there's no stealth in bioshock), tlou is a slow paced third person action game with stealth and survival elements
@dugonman8360
@dugonman8360 3 жыл бұрын
I rememberes going into TLOU with an open mind, ignoring the entire "gamings citizen kane, masterpice that'll make you cry" and just going in openminded. What I got. Suprise, was RE4 meets the Road. Oh boy, a AAA western game that mimics RE4 that utilizes another medias entire premise. I've never seen that before. Didnt think the narrative was emotional at all, mostly just manipulative. Makes you cry? A tree stump in Ocarina of Time made me cry, this contrive story about the perfect daughter simulator just got eyerolls from me.
@GreatOldOne9866
@GreatOldOne9866 2 жыл бұрын
Then you are factually closed minded.
@Jotarokun2233
@Jotarokun2233 2 жыл бұрын
If you open minded you wouldnt compare it to re4 :D
@GreatOldOne9866
@GreatOldOne9866 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyforever20 if people can’t accept that the story is a masterpiece in writing, drama, love, hope and tragedy, then they are factually closed minded with a huge lack of taste.
@franciscor390
@franciscor390 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh it's like soo deep, it's like the real enemies aren't the zombies it's like the people like u know right? TLOU is the "Magnum Opus" for normies and hipsters.
@wannabebruce
@wannabebruce 4 жыл бұрын
As a fan of the first LOU, I think that I enjoy the story more so than the gameplay itself. So I definitely see where you're coming from, and I agree not everything needs to be blown out of proportion as being labeled "genre-defining". For me, I really love the characters and story and had a good time playing the game. Good video
@Zombieguy1987
@Zombieguy1987 5 жыл бұрын
This entire video took the words out of my mouth, only if some of the fanboys actually accepted that some people have different opinions about games
@BrendanBraica
@BrendanBraica 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is this whole community on this channel just loves to hate on things because they're popular. I.E, you calling ppl who like the game "fan boys". Almost every comment ive seen is about how the game sucks because no one who likes it actually looks into the story how its "generic" BRUH, thats why so many people love the game. They can see the deeper meaning in everything and how Naughty Dog some how created a unique story.
@johnmarston1111
@johnmarston1111 4 жыл бұрын
Biggus Dickus eyy it reminds me of TWD season 1 and in my opinion it’s better then the Last Of Us. The game choices actually matter and the gameplay is better. TLOU is just like and Uncharted game but with no par core
@slashinghades7347
@slashinghades7347 5 жыл бұрын
I miss Naughty Dog's Crash/Jak and Daxter era.
@XpertGreekGamer
@XpertGreekGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, uncharted is still good. I've also never played jak and daxter but i'm not seeing anything special. I might sound strange, but i'd pick twinsanity over j&d any fucking day.
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
@@XpertGreekGamer Uncharted is a lame tomb raider rip off
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
@@mister-pinkman Too bad u can’t accept the fact that last of us is trash. Ur the worst fanboy I’ve ever seen
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
@@V_For_Vigilante too bad you can’t accept that the game is widely considered one of the greats. But your opinion is yours and that’s ok
@EmersonFitts
@EmersonFitts 4 жыл бұрын
Naughty Dog games the first time you play them are amazing, once you replay them the cracks start to show.
@EmersonFitts
@EmersonFitts 4 жыл бұрын
Also piggybacking: they are masters of making you do something and tricking you into thinking you did it yourself
@EmersonFitts
@EmersonFitts 4 жыл бұрын
*have a choice
@StanderdSolution
@StanderdSolution 2 жыл бұрын
Nope love all uncharted games so much better than the last of us
@Molotov_Milkshake
@Molotov_Milkshake Жыл бұрын
The cracks were pretty apparent the first time I played TLOU. Was sick of it within a few hours
@Anxiety_Asylum
@Anxiety_Asylum 9 ай бұрын
this is what i felt with jak 3 upon replaying recently. it felt like a chore playing it
@mxed1916
@mxed1916 6 жыл бұрын
There is something I think it's worth mentioning in Shadow of the Colossus: When you are fighting Quadrus or Basaran, if you step down from Agro, he will try to catch the attention of the Colossus when they attack you. Every time he did that I was like "NO, AGRO, RUN AWAY, DON'T DO THAT PLEAAAASEEE.... Oh right, this is a videogame... still... PLEASE DON'T DO THAT". I mean, Agro doesn't get killed by the Colossi, but the fact that Team Ico managed to make one worry for the pet virtual horse talks A LOT about how well they succeded on making you care about the companion AI. Kinda the same thing with Yorda in ICO. Ellie from TLOU isn't even close to get that reaction, and she has hundred of lines of expository dialogue to, supposedly, acomplish that effect. Hell, I remember having more simpathy for Ashley in RE4 than for Ellie.
@Cagon415
@Cagon415 4 жыл бұрын
I never cared for this game either. It's actual quite fitting. The original was loved for trivial reasons, and the sequel is hated for trivial reasons. Sony needs to switch it up. Making every exclusive a mediocre movie with button prompts is getting old.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 2 жыл бұрын
Uncharted managed to surpass the mediocre gameplay direction by having unbelievable set pieces and atmosphere, which advances the action and world building in ways no other medium would be able to do. Unlike TLOU, which doesn't do anything with its shooting mechanics
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, Detroit: Become Human, and Until Dawn more than The Last of Us.
@younghou
@younghou 4 жыл бұрын
because in those games your choice really matters, in the last of us there is no choice, just hide/fight with some cut scenes.
@kamronlynch
@kamronlynch 4 жыл бұрын
I agree but I never played heavy rain and beyond two souls.
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 4 жыл бұрын
I can now add Spider-Man(PS4) to the list.
@kimjuanjun7124
@kimjuanjun7124 4 жыл бұрын
At least those let you decide while TLOU is played from directors view
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Not me
@JcGross93
@JcGross93 6 жыл бұрын
The game has a good story and quite well written characters but awful awful gameplay and game design! I really, REALLY don't understand why so many people just jizz in their pants if someone even mentions TLOU to them. It has badly balanced enemies, terrible level design horrible shooting and even worse stealth.
@sucram1015
@sucram1015 6 жыл бұрын
Stealth depends on the player. They don't control how you play, you can. But I respect your opinion.
@JcGross93
@JcGross93 6 жыл бұрын
@@sucram1015 But then don't have stealth if you aren't willing to spend the time/money to have good mechanics! It's very superficial and borderline broken. No silenced weapons, stupid shivs that break (even on humans, which is bullshit), enemies that spot you from miles away and have a telepathic link, because once one person sees you, no matter if you kill him right away, everyone instantly knows where you are, there's no proper feedback on how visible you are, how much noise you make, or even why you got spotted or by who... It's goddamn broken. The problem is that while gameplay discourages stealth the story encourages it. Meaning whenever you happen upon an enemy group the characters themselves want to be unnoticed. And of course there's the stupid ai that further demolishes the experience. When you're crouching around, evading enemies, and your partner(s) just running around like fucking morons IN FRONT OF THE ENEMIES. This is the most unforgiveable thing in the game, it just ruins the experience. If you can't do stealth, don't DO stealth! I'm so sick of these shitty half baked steatlh mechanics, makes me feel like a moron because I expect it to actually work well, like in a good game (Splinter Cell, Hitman, Thief, MGS...).
@sucram1015
@sucram1015 6 жыл бұрын
@@JcGross93 😂😂😂😂😂 you have a point. Especially the whole group running around not being spotted in front of enemies except you. I've Been playing The Last of Us since the year it came out, and your right about that. Because I have gotten mad over that. 😂
@Venched
@Venched 5 жыл бұрын
I would say the story is poorly written as well.
@Fiery_Latina_Goatchan_GF_681
@Fiery_Latina_Goatchan_GF_681 4 жыл бұрын
PFFFFFFTTT what good story ? ×.× its generic as all hell
@alonsoiriartewachtendorff2084
@alonsoiriartewachtendorff2084 5 жыл бұрын
Been playing Games for over 20 years, dont really like this new trend of movie like-games. Of course I can enjoy a great story, in fact I like metal gear series a lot but I always get my enjoyment from games for the gameplay, I think this game tries too hard to have a deep and complex story and I guess that's where it hooked fans. To me a masterfully done game is something like dmc5, I also really like fighting games cuz I need to be invested in a game's mechanics and systems to grow attached to it. A good story and characters is great but I need a good game first
@Andrew-it7fb
@Andrew-it7fb 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. Game mechanics and great and all but if there isn't a good story to hook me, I won't get invested in the game and I'll get bored. That being said, I didn't care for the story in the last of us.
@JC-em8js
@JC-em8js 4 жыл бұрын
Alonso Iriarte Wachtendorff agree 💯
@PHTV11
@PHTV11 4 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to watch a good story I'd watch a movie not a video game. Of course a good story is great such as in bioshock but the gameplay mechanics allow you to interact with the story instead of having the control taken away from you and forced to watch boring cutscenes which interrupt game flow constantly.
@reeceburns8077
@reeceburns8077 4 жыл бұрын
I play PlayStation and I couldn't agree more mainly naughty dog are turning there games into movies focusing more on story then gameplay which they have done mainly with the last of us and uncharted 4
@Sebulba2000
@Sebulba2000 4 жыл бұрын
This. I completely agree with you. Gameplay is so forgotten nowadays, it's pretty much the same every game
@SmallvilleStudio
@SmallvilleStudio Жыл бұрын
For the most part, I think you've succinctly described how I feel about TLOU. When I played it, I thought it was good, but not great. I hear people lauding it as the best ever game, when Uncharted is obviously right there. I do think people over bloat this game's greatness, which only makes me dislike it more. When a good game is constantly called the greatest of all time, only for my opinion to sharply disagree, I often wonder if perhaps I am the one in the wrong. Granted I could liken TLOU to No Country For Old Men. I didn't really like that movie, so I wonder if the game itself is just not my cup of tea.
@adrienee3439
@adrienee3439 Жыл бұрын
Hey, here with you in the modern day. I agree. I got the game 2 years ago to try it out when all the hype had died down just for it to immediately get a ps4 remake. Now it has a ps5 remake. I for one think the game is mediocre, bugs aside since those were fixed for the most part. The game just felt like....shoots and ladders. Finding ways to transport ellie is not fun or engaging. And zombie stories have been done before. This woulda made a good zombie movie. I never finished the game. I just couldnt stomach the gameplay and the praise it got made me hate it even more. This is probably the only game ive ever felt this way about. Ive been a gamer for over 25 years...
@dukenukem69
@dukenukem69 24 күн бұрын
No country for old men is my favorite movie of all time, tlou however, is extremely overrated
@tiphotisted
@tiphotisted 4 жыл бұрын
TLOU in a nutshell: Zombie apocalypse starts. You're introduced to some characters. About an hour later after barely getting to know them they die. Lol.
@DialloMoore503
@DialloMoore503 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the point. That’s the kind of world these characters are living in. Death is always staring them in the face.
@xanthousfishjeretuna9778
@xanthousfishjeretuna9778 5 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, only reason it was worshipped so much was because it was exclusive. Same goes for most exclusive games. Personally I see most Naughty Dog games as extremely overrated, and the fanbase of the games are the most toxic thing possible
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 5 жыл бұрын
100% agreed. I haven't genuinely loved any of Naughty Dogs games since Jak and Daxter on PS2 lol
@Purtle
@Purtle 3 жыл бұрын
Last of Us was a masterpiece imo
@solidhutyr1815
@solidhutyr1815 3 жыл бұрын
@Dutch Plan Der Linde and why do you think they aren't a good games just curios
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Жыл бұрын
​@@AtrophyOfSoulSo why did you recommend uncharted 2 if you don't like anything naughty dog post PS2? Uncharted is boring as hell with shitty controls, platforming and climbing which isn't fun in this game and puzzles that do nothing but waste my time. I'd rather play the last of us 10 times over than play uncharted 2 even once.
@titanicww2345
@titanicww2345 6 жыл бұрын
Nier Automata and the Bioshock series are more deserving of the title "Citizen Kane" of video games. Even Just Cause 2 because it demonstrates the freedom, fun and dynamism of video games. TLoU is a painfully average game that is criminally overrated for some reason.
@hopelessent.1700
@hopelessent.1700 6 жыл бұрын
Nah man that title belongs to Snake Eater so much shit can be done in a cinematic game that I expected the last of us to be. The real time and awesome small details makes it The Best game of all time... yet again I haven’t played Neir Automata and Bioshock...
@retardedpenisidiot5216
@retardedpenisidiot5216 6 жыл бұрын
Bioshock is also overrated
@Dylankiwi1
@Dylankiwi1 6 жыл бұрын
I can agree to a certain extend bioshock 1 but definitely not infinite but for Nier automata I can agree with that utilising the game medium and evolving it crafting a story that can only be told through game while having satisfying gameplay.
@theitfactorjameswheezer2852
@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 6 жыл бұрын
Nerd Zone! Bioshock 2 is the best one
@Dylankiwi1
@Dylankiwi1 6 жыл бұрын
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 honestly never played it i heard its underrated but i don't really have any interest
@Kyal-
@Kyal- 5 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy Days Gone more than TLOU, and I cant tell if it's because of the story being less forced or because the gameplay is just so much more diverse. Days Gone controls so much better, and I feel it is a much better example of modern day survival horror. (Probably because the vibe is alot more RE) I wish people had the time and, or attention span to finish 40 hour plus games so they could see some real long character development.
@frozenwine9317
@frozenwine9317 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@jvincent14
@jvincent14 4 жыл бұрын
Days gone is kinda trash man and i really wanted to like it
@sladelius6174
@sladelius6174 2 жыл бұрын
Days Gone is light years better.
@nassahrakim8136
@nassahrakim8136 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvincent14 you're not a gamer if you didn't like days gone and liked tlous. Might as well watch movies than play games
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
@@nassahrakim8136 Having a different opinion does not make them not a gamer stop being a toxic elitist prick. No they can still play games too.
@robertbalajc9254
@robertbalajc9254 6 жыл бұрын
Well this game is ok but it doesn't deserve to be one of the greatest ever made!I dont understand all the praise this game gets,this is the most overrated game ever
@reh-d8t
@reh-d8t 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was. This game was way ahead of its time and the story is immaculate.
@leonardopereira4458
@leonardopereira4458 3 жыл бұрын
@@reh-d8t ahead of its time? This game is just a rip off of Resident Evil, The Last of Us had nothing new to be ahead of its time, there is literally nothing in this game that has not already been made in older games.
@khalidmohd4932
@khalidmohd4932 3 жыл бұрын
@@reh-d8t the game was about zombie pandemic
@lachiehutton6526
@lachiehutton6526 3 жыл бұрын
People that say this game isn’t the best game ever don’t understand true dialogues and emotions and understanding
@rob.s0000
@rob.s0000 3 жыл бұрын
@@lachiehutton6526 I think it’s the other way around. The characters don’t bond as much as you think they do and joel’s ultimate turn to seeing ellie as his daughter happens for no reason whatsoever on a horseback ride
@Lugbzurg
@Lugbzurg 6 жыл бұрын
This is just so in-sync with what I've been thinking, and I've scarcely found anyone pointing this stuff out. Namely with knocking down the whole "Citizen Kayne" comparison, as well as pointing to Resident Evil 4 and Dark Souls as already doing these things ten times better. I will say though that I did enjoy The Last of Us moreso than, say... Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. I think that was even more on-rails and scripted than TLoU, especially considering that TLoU has much more exploration involved than Uncharted, and allows you to carry every weapon in the entire game at once... in a survival stealth game... on consoles. After being bombarded with so many dull shooters barring the player down with two-weapon slots, as we're somehow expected to feel EMPOWERED by this, The Last of Us using its weapons the way it did gave me quite a sense of satisfaction. But this game is not worth 300+ awards. That's absurd. I also really, REALLY love your concept of taking a key from a human settlement over to an infected "hive" within the same chapter/map. That's the kind of stuff I like to see, with mechanics bouncing off each other.
@albertelazar4069
@albertelazar4069 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't see what made this game (The last of Us) a so called "masterpiece" in everyone point of view. I played the game for the first two or so hours, and couldn't play it any longer. I didn't care about its so called masterful story or boring characters, its gameplay I thought was very generic clunky and boring, and for the most part it was not fun at all! All the people and websites giving it "perfect 10" scores are either completely delusional, or they simply don't have a clue, as to what makes and actual good game. The Last of Us is one of the most overhyped, overrated, and most disappointing games to have come out in the history of gaming!
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 11 ай бұрын
I feel like people who actually played the game have better say on the quality of the game then people like you that played less the 8% of it. Ya’ll are just so in denial that people legitimately love this game. Is so bizarre
@Sheen334
@Sheen334 4 жыл бұрын
The BS in this industry is embarrassing. Sony releases a bunch of average games and everyone busts a nut over them. MS have underperformed, which is probably why so many people have lost their mind over Sony's average first party games.
@rob.s0000
@rob.s0000 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Sheen only good games they made imo made by Sony are Spider-Man cause it’s fun af and infamous second son.
@SayberV1
@SayberV1 4 жыл бұрын
It's the effect of both Nintendo and Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot in the 8th generation
@DaGalaxyBoy
@DaGalaxyBoy 4 жыл бұрын
There's like one ps4 exclusive that I enjoy a lot, and its not even made by Sony. It was persona 5
@yobro6053
@yobro6053 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaGalaxyBoy and Bloodborne
@DaGalaxyBoy
@DaGalaxyBoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@yobro6053 I wouldn't know, didn't watch to much of bloodborne but after seeing like a 2 second clip of the ending, it seems interesting
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric 4 жыл бұрын
No more movie games. As soon as someone compares any game to Citizen Kane I know they are looking at games from a flawed perspective.
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Frankopan Klarić too bad, more to come (;
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
@@mister-pinkman More garbage like last of us to come
@aguyyoudontknow7090
@aguyyoudontknow7090 4 жыл бұрын
@@V_For_Vigilante last of us fans are like a dumpster they will make you sick
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 2 жыл бұрын
Saying that games should be like movies is like saying movies should be like books, in that it's basically just text rolling on a screen for 2 hours
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 4 жыл бұрын
I think the movie The Road is also another example of a “Post Apocalyptic Future”/ survival movie done right. It features very little troupes of what you’d find in these types of movies, the main characters are more compelling, there’s no “zombies” or “infected” and the feeling of the entire movie really puts you into that feeling of hopelessness
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
Last of us ripped off of the road and made a downgraded copy
@GreatOldOne9866
@GreatOldOne9866 2 жыл бұрын
The Road is brilliant, but there can be other similar stories like it with differently good takes on them.
@lukasribin4168
@lukasribin4168 Жыл бұрын
The book is far better than the movie, and yes, this video game was obviously inspired heavily by the novel and/or film.
@JackRafael
@JackRafael 4 жыл бұрын
The game was probably really good when it came out in 2013, but man, playing it for the first time in 2020, It’s boring as hell. And I’m the type of person that ONLY plays story RPG games. It’s just boring man.
@ivangomezprado434
@ivangomezprado434 4 жыл бұрын
Bruhhhh same
@MaxMustermann-mu2jg
@MaxMustermann-mu2jg 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been insulted because I criticized the game
@Rafael-rn6hn
@Rafael-rn6hn 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Except for a few, sparse cutscenes (peppered with nonsense), most of it seemed really boring. It could be half as long without losing anything.
@starrigby5994
@starrigby5994 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is so relatable I also played the game in 2020 and also love story games AND also found it quite boring Still a good game tho
@Deafwing
@Deafwing 4 жыл бұрын
I played it for the first time around two years ago and I felt exactly the same. Cliche story, mediocre gameplay, slow pacing. I found it difficult to empathize with Joel since he clearly did horrible things to survive and just as difficult to care about Ellie when she seemed so hostile to everyone. I hear that part 2 is pretty much the same gameplay wise and worse story wise. Hard pass.
@Nier73h
@Nier73h 2 жыл бұрын
12:53 this guy hit the nail on the bullet that's exactly what the problem with modern day gaming. They are too focused on competing with Hollywood movies instead of giving us proper gameplay.
@GOONGGWP
@GOONGGWP 8 жыл бұрын
TLOU was a decent movie.
@uknowikeepitlowkey6721
@uknowikeepitlowkey6721 5 жыл бұрын
Hussain Abdullah u should play it the combat is fun
@Rex67Diego9
@Rex67Diego9 5 жыл бұрын
YoNiggaLamar there thousands of games with more fun combat thi
@Venched
@Venched 5 жыл бұрын
No it's a shitty movie.
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing*
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
Downgraded rip off = tlou
@charaznable8072
@charaznable8072 4 жыл бұрын
The same people that believe this is a masterpiece is the same people that would tell you MCU movies are masterpieces.
@martinlutherkingjr.2993
@martinlutherkingjr.2993 4 жыл бұрын
nope, i think Tlou is a masterpiece and one of my favorites, but I fucking hate the MCU and think they are fucking terrible.
@charaznable8072
@charaznable8072 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinlutherkingjr.2993 Well there's always gonna be a percentage of ya'll but i'm talking generally this thing is definitely catered towards the casual audience, don't get me wrong i also like this game but i don't think it's a masterpiece more of 7.5-8/10 or so, like if the gameplay was better it would then be a masterpiece.
@Darkstormsun9865
@Darkstormsun9865 4 жыл бұрын
Eh marvel movies is a master piece. If you see it as one big movie. Super satisfying to see how everything connects together.
@tbnpunishedvenomkojima9624
@tbnpunishedvenomkojima9624 4 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstormsun9865 they're trash
@tbnpunishedvenomkojima9624
@tbnpunishedvenomkojima9624 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinlutherkingjr.2993 it's trash
@anybody2501
@anybody2501 2 жыл бұрын
TLoU is definitely a game with an identity crisis. It's a RPG with no dialogue trees or player agency. It's an adventure game with linear level design. It's a shooter with little combat variety. It's a stealth game with lazy enemy AI. It's survival-horror with that fails to instill in the player an impending sense of doom. And it's puzzle game with unambiguous solutions. The fact that it got as much praise as it did just goes to show how far game quality has deteriorated since video games became a part of mainstream popular culture as opposed to being a niche counter culture hobby.
@jackjax7921
@jackjax7921 Жыл бұрын
Resident Evil 4 Remake has higher replay value than Last of Us
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 Жыл бұрын
And OG
@dukenukem69
@dukenukem69 24 күн бұрын
Yeah and it's not even close. So disappointed in tlou and I beat it on grounded for the first time a couple days ago. Insanely overrated
@afrotac2872
@afrotac2872 3 жыл бұрын
Man thank you for making this video, I thought I was going mad hearing everyone talk about this game. I imagine you got a lot of hate but you said nothing but facts
@ROCKSTAR3291
@ROCKSTAR3291 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell they created the story and characters first, then built the gameplay around them. It's just so bland to play. It should've been the other way around.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 2 жыл бұрын
No, what they did was worse. They wrote a script and made a whole load of storyboards and then suddenly realized "oh shit, we forgot we were making a game"
@JonnyHorseman
@JonnyHorseman Жыл бұрын
To this day I'm fully convinced this game RUINED Playstation exclusives ever since it first came out
@darkninja9135
@darkninja9135 Жыл бұрын
Stop being dumb, idiot.
@darkninja9135
@darkninja9135 Жыл бұрын
​@@duduvenom Bruh you didn't even play the game, normie.
@darkninja9135
@darkninja9135 Жыл бұрын
@@duduvenom The game isn't anything like TLOU except having a similar story to TLOU.
@darkninja9135
@darkninja9135 Жыл бұрын
@@duduvenom I enjoyed playing them but it's your opinion.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 Жыл бұрын
​@@duduvenom I hate God of War 2018 so much...
@TonicSpirits
@TonicSpirits 8 жыл бұрын
I understand your rationale and appreciate people like you who challenge their viewers every once in a while. Really made me take a retrospective look on TLOU's single-player. I just wanted to comment that TLOU provided, no joke, one of the best multiplayer experiences I've ever had. For what it may lack in thematic integration and gameplay in the single-player, I felt it more than made up for in the multiplayer. Characters? You focus on the more common population this time, with the player characters' voice lines and interactions giving them personality and believability, and even encouraging teamwork and relaying information with lines like "Glad you're covering my ass," or "Look out, he's got a shotgun!". The premise alone does plenty of worldbuilding, as it shows the daily struggle of Hunters and Fireflies and communicates their feelings based on how you play. The option of special executions, in addition to rewarding more parts, shows us the brutality that these people show each other during hard times if it means they will benefit, THROUGH MECHANICS. Survival themes? Crafting truly matters because of what perks you have equipped and what item(s) you need for a specific situation, and taking out your backpack to craft in a firefight has risks because enemy players do not have an inept AI for you to exploit. Every death has consequence, as it directly interferes with your squad's objective (survival/protecting a safe), and losing means a low reward of supplies. Each team only has four players, and just having one more teammate than the enemy in a firefight can be a significant advantage. The slow, cat-and-mouse pace of the game makes it feel like a game of not just precise aiming and twitch reflexes, but also decisive tactics, appropriate to the survival theme. Progression? The multiplayer encourages you to learn and improve with its supplies metagame, as earning more will unlock new perks and weapons to use, as well as loadout points to expand your kit. Some may argue that this would make it unfair for new players, but I think this is a good compromise. Newbies feel like they have a goal to work towards, and while perks and purchasable weapons are extremely helpful, they are balanced by the fact that more powerful options cost more loadout points, and with a maximum of 13 loadout points, no one can be insanely overpowered. You can be a jack-of-all-trades or specialize your role using perks suited to your playstyle(s). Ultimately, however, teamwork and smart tactics are the deciding factors in a game. Strategy? Again, you are competing against other humans rather than the underdeveloped AI, forcing you to keep on your toes and think of ways to keep your enemies guessing. Use a sniper rifle? Enemies will likely mark your position, stay behind cover, and flank you. Shiv of bunch of enemies? They will become paranoid and likely check corners and their backs more often. Set nail bomb traps? It's safe to say that after dying a few times to them, enemies will wise up and use listen mode to check for bombs in doorways and corners, and in some cases, even use them against you by shooting them when you walk over your own trap. The TLOU multiplayer, I believe, delivers a superior experience in using the medium's strengths of interactive mechanics to tell a story and guide you towards an overall objective while granting enough freedom to let you go about it in your own way and blending in enough personality to give itself a unique identity in the market.
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing post man, thanks for being so thorough. To be completely candid I actually never played TLOUs multiplayer. From what you're describing it's sounding like I truly missed out on something special. I'm going to make an effort to put a few hours into it, because this really does sound awesome.
@hwanniggles187
@hwanniggles187 Жыл бұрын
​@@AtrophyOfSoulsuper late but he's right. The MP of this game is super GOATED because there's a lot going on, especially with resource management where you can't exactly cheese the game like in the single player
@curtis701
@curtis701 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves the last of us and naughty dog I am fine with this criticism. Art is subjective and no matter good some thing is not everyone is gonna feel the same way you do. I actually enjoy viewpoints that are almost opposite to mine and this was definitely pretty entertaining
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 5 жыл бұрын
Good on you man, thanks
@BrendanBraica
@BrendanBraica 4 жыл бұрын
Almost every comment is people saying that the game IS bad. Not that they dont like it or that they prefer other games. Someone literally said "nobody likes the gameplay". Aka "my opinion is everybody's opinion"
@hazard4194
@hazard4194 4 жыл бұрын
Biggus Dickus those are the haters, they can’t stand that tlou is seen as one the best games ever.
@Darkstormsun9865
@Darkstormsun9865 4 жыл бұрын
@@hazard4194 i can't see how it's the best game ever. Its just completely mediocre to me. The entire thing is just one big cliche. Its not bad at all, i can see how it was good for its time. But as playing it last year. What the hell about the game that makes it so good that beats any other game that comes after it. if you want a story witcher 3 beats it hands down. Each character and even side characters has so much depth to them in that game. In TLOU you learn more about Ellie than joel, because you barely learn anything about Joel besides his brother. I just didn't feel any attachment at all to the characters and they did feel completely unrelatable to me. I think they would have done better with the story if they allowed you to make choices with consequences. Also the timeskip didn't make any sense to me. I felt it skipped over a lot of father-daughter development that we could have seen and made the story so much better.
@hazard4194
@hazard4194 4 жыл бұрын
vang-tou Lee yeah for you but its seen as one of the best in the gaming community, you cant deny that
@requiem5179
@requiem5179 11 ай бұрын
The origin of video games is in gameplay not story. The obsession over story in the last decade is also why video games are trash now. I like a good story in a game but when you think of the best games in history, most of them have little or no story at all. Zelda BOTW for example. Little story, amazing gameplay. Mario. Sonic 2. Doom. GTA III. TLOU ruined Sony. They make all their exclusives this formula now and it's why we all are tired of it. Story games where you sometimes have QTE and after 30 hours of holding the controller, feel no better about what you experienced and can't remember most of it.
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 11 ай бұрын
Bruh have you played… AND Sony game? Other then say Detroit Become Human what game is what you are describing . Like imagine playing TLoU 2 on the Grounded difficulty mode and saying the game is just “QTE”. Or Ghost of Tsushima, Returnal, God of War, Horizon….
@juanmanikings
@juanmanikings 10 ай бұрын
@@Indigo_1001 God again with grounded difficulty that gameplay is pretty pasable at best even in grounded people overrate that difficulty
@OJ90-
@OJ90- 10 ай бұрын
Big facts 💯. The gameplay design is just not satisfying. Its made for the casuals who don't really care about creative and innovative gameplay. It's just bland and heavy on the story & cenimatics.
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 10 ай бұрын
You sir win. Couldnt have said it better!
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 10 ай бұрын
@@Indigo_1001 PS1 and PS2 deserves every praise it got. Great consoles, great games!. PS3 was flawed but it tried. But PS4 is where i started to hate SONY with all the movie simulators, and has since just stuck with Xbox due to that
@DevilNeverKnows
@DevilNeverKnows 3 жыл бұрын
This game just proves that society sometimes latches onto whatever comes out at just the right time, and holds it in the highest regard ever just because they want to praise something. When I see such a high number of people praising something, it's clear that very few of them are personally dedicated to it, it's just mob mentality. I want something I can be personally dedicated to, regardless of anyone else's opinion, and the last of us isn't it
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman Жыл бұрын
But the thing is many people are truly dedicated to this games story and world. Not just the main story but the superb environmental storytelling. It’s just well executed.
@dennisgordon7767
@dennisgordon7767 Жыл бұрын
@@mister-pinkmannow compare it to Dayz Gone
@DevilNeverKnows
@DevilNeverKnows Жыл бұрын
@@daegnaxqelil2733 yeah, shadow of the colossus is good but I've played it literally one time and never again. It's an impressive game, but I wouldn't spend money on a remaster. I also will never understand the fnaf hype, it's a budget point and click jumpscare horror. All those words I just used are bad lol (except 'horror')
@daegnaxqelil2733
@daegnaxqelil2733 Жыл бұрын
@@DevilNeverKnows WILL YOU STOP HARASSING ME? leave me alone the obe with ego issues!
@daegnaxqelil2733
@daegnaxqelil2733 Жыл бұрын
that's the issue with successful games like shadow of colossus (people should buy the remaster instead of the badly aged first version), ocarina of time or five nights at freddy's. many boast these games , they needs to chill out. andf i i don't like when the weirdos who does their sections never reply before and then suddenly do it to one in particular. it should be forbidden.
@yabo_san
@yabo_san 8 жыл бұрын
these were my thoughts exactly. your channel has also raised my interest in devil may cry.
@Mw.StellavanKolck
@Mw.StellavanKolck 5 жыл бұрын
Devil may cry, yes that's a good franchise real gaming
@josephabrams8529
@josephabrams8529 4 жыл бұрын
20:00, thank you for giving shout outs to some of my favorite games. I’d include Resident Evil 4, LoZ: Ocarina of Time and Majorca’s Mask, Undertale, and Spec Ops: the Line in that vein as well.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 Жыл бұрын
I really don't get why people think this story is so exceptional. We've seen hundreds of survival dramas in a zombie apocalypse or bonding stories about parental figures, and there doesn't seem to be anything narratively unique to it. When people talk about this game's best attributes, they talk about the music, the graphics, the cutscenes, but when someone comes back to the gameplay, they don't even hesitate to call it the weakest part. I'm sorry, but if a game's greatest quality is being devoid of needing good gameplay, then perhaps that's a failure on a fundamental level of storytelling.
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 11 ай бұрын
Sorry but no one that loves the game says the gameplay is “bad”. It’s not an amazing or it’s best quality, but by 2013 standards is NO WHERE near bad. It served the purpose of helping the narrative experience. And the very successful HBO show that just copy and paste the story of TLoU isn’t prof that the story IS good and DOES hold up?
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 11 ай бұрын
@@Indigo_1001 "It's not even bad by 2013 standards" I've played AAA games from 2005 that had better gameplay, dude.
@Greg-yn9rx
@Greg-yn9rx 4 жыл бұрын
i think a really great comparison regarding the companion aspect is Yorda and Ico’s relationship from Ico. You really get to care for Yorda not by watching cutscenes, but by actually holding her hand through the entire game. Team Ico truly understood the possibilities of the medium, at least with their first two games.
@pumajlr
@pumajlr 7 жыл бұрын
The first shooter i remember using gameplay to tell the story was Half Life to me. It left such a great impression in me. I was thinking of playing another FPS, and it was such more immersive.
@RichardHannay
@RichardHannay 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people who proclaimed that TLOU is the “Citizen Kane” of gaming actually even LIKES Citizen Kane.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 2 жыл бұрын
Or if they've even SEEN it I'd give that comparison to Silent Hill 2, but Shadow of the Colossus is an understandable choice
@k1n6n07h1n6
@k1n6n07h1n6 Жыл бұрын
The gameplay is basically Uncharted with zombies. The story is just The Road... with zombies.
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Жыл бұрын
This game is nothing like uncharted. Not even close.
@Sparrows1121
@Sparrows1121 10 ай бұрын
@@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Well Uncharted feels like a bad parody of action movies so i hate those games aswell. Jak and Daxter were the last good games by Naughty Dog. Give me old Indiana Jones movies anyday, atleast they have charm. But i heard Indiana Jones 5 is terrible, due to Kathleen Kennedy involvement.
@firebird_5282
@firebird_5282 3 ай бұрын
Breath of the Wild is a masterpiece for open world gameplay and all the feel of discovery. Arkham Asylum is the first freeflow combat system game, which everyone copied afterwards and had a very good story. Well Halo Combat Evolved for its addicting FPS defining gameplay. Far Cry 3 has a surprisingly deep story and has created a formula that saved Ubisoft for nearly a decade, also very fun. Ghost of Tsushima for its art style, visuals, presentation, perhaps combat and its extremely polished. Perhaps not all industry defining masterpieces but games I really think they are better than most.
@DominicanRocker1955
@DominicanRocker1955 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!! Video Games should be about gameplay first.
@tiphotisted
@tiphotisted 4 жыл бұрын
Uncharted 2 has been carrying Naughty Dog for a while it seems. They hit relative gold with U2 and have been getting away with so much ever since. I say relative because even back then the gameplay of U2 was just above average. The story was good for what it was, but what it was wasn't much.
@Percival917
@Percival917 6 жыл бұрын
Story-first fane design is one thing. But the thing that really pisses me off is cinematics-first game design, where a game tries to make itself feel like a movie.
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 4 жыл бұрын
This vid could not have aged any better. I hope to see you do a vid on Last of Us 2
@thierrydubuc9490
@thierrydubuc9490 5 жыл бұрын
I bought it this summer. Had my ps3 since 2010 but i wasnt exactly paying attention to the latest titles, instead playing older games that were being sold cheaper. So i never heard of the last of us till a year ago, when i saw youtubers praising it. Read about it, apparantly it's a master piece. So i bought it. So from someone who did not buy into the hype AT ALL, i will say, the game is "okay". It's not a bad game, i love a good story and fleshed out characters. The game delivered on both. But the gameplay was so ordinary. If it was not for the story the game would not have a leg to stand on, the gameplay was boring, a shame considering it should be the most important part of a game. I see a lot of ps4 vs xbox videos and i always comes down to exclusives, with ps4 fans talking about TLOU as if it's a selling point. It's not. I loved the story, but i'll take Telltale's walking dead over TLOU any day. And i'll take state of decay's addictive gameplay over tlou's ordinary gameplay.
@brennanbarber7469
@brennanbarber7469 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried a couple times to play this game but I cannot for the life of me get into. It’s so repetitive. Every time I enter another big open area scattered with bricks, bottles, and conveniently-placed crates, I lose my motivation to continue. It’s exhausting. I feel like I spend time stealthing my way through an area knowing there’s many many many more just like it yet to come. Im convinced I will never understand the hype for this game.
@plugshirt1684
@plugshirt1684 4 жыл бұрын
That’s how I felt about it. The gameplay is the same over and over with a few good moments. The only other games that make me feel this way are good horror games because I get too scared to continue but playing this game I feel no fear only boredom
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Just beat the game dude
@brennanbarber7469
@brennanbarber7469 4 жыл бұрын
stoner pinkman Why would I pump that much time playing a game I don’t like lol
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Brennan Barber because the ending is the best part it ties everything up so perfectly and it’s so well written. The foreshadowing from beginning to end is so beautiful it gives me chills. Yes the gameplay isn’t perfect but the characters and their arcs are so well thought out and so emotionally impactful it leaves you thinking about it for years like I have. The writing in this game is superb.
@mister-pinkman
@mister-pinkman 4 жыл бұрын
Brennan Barber like I could talk about thus ending forever I love how ambiguous it was, which is why we shouldn’t have gotten a stupid sequel
@njgmlommerse
@njgmlommerse 5 жыл бұрын
I just started playing this game today because it is said to be one of the, if not the best game ever. And after an hour or more of pure frustration I switched it of. I got frustrated with it because of everything you pointed out in this video, you've done an excellent job in analyzing its faults. I also agree that something like Metroid Prime would be the Citizen Kane of videogames, because it pushes its medium further.
@brandonroque2226
@brandonroque2226 6 жыл бұрын
I actually feel that despite the shortcomings, the gameplay in the tLou threads the line nicely between being fun and resourceful. I don't defend it, but I do feel that the fun, intrigue and the emmergent results of your choices (though scaled heavily from that E3). It's another iteration of the sandbox gameplay that was so common in that decade, and the shortcomings don't destroy ones ability to enjoy it.
@omnicloudv7
@omnicloudv7 8 жыл бұрын
You're going to need the protect spells of Lady Yuna, and Noctis's warp abilities to survive the fanboys once they catch wind of this video. LOL couldn't agree more with everything you said. Excellent video! Good game, but far from a masterpiece. By the way the MGS2 reference in the beginning was pure awesomeness!
@AtrophyOfSoul
@AtrophyOfSoul 8 жыл бұрын
haha glad you caught that
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
Metal gear is trash
@gamervet4760
@gamervet4760 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out my beef with this franchise since I finished the first one in 2012. I finally figured it out. Fans of it have no standards. That's just the simple truth of the matter. If you lower your standards to love an inferior product what does that say about you?
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 11 ай бұрын
That’s such a dumb way to see it. So people that love this game had bad taste in video games huh… get your head out of your ass fude
@mirearts
@mirearts Жыл бұрын
most all Sony exclusives sucks balls in terms of gameplay that is a harsh truth!
@OJ90-
@OJ90- Жыл бұрын
Facts. Its so casual. It doesn't stimulate u at all. The gameplay is so assisted and mid. The gameplay is just unfulfilling and shallow. Very boring. The first 40mins of the game is u just pushing the thumbstick forward walking and watching cutscenes... smh
@damienjohn
@damienjohn 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It's a good game, even a great game for it's technical achievements on the PS3, but definitely not a masterpiece. It's a solid 8'/10 game to me.
@zerozeroone4424
@zerozeroone4424 5 жыл бұрын
For me it's either a 6 or 5. A 6 if you consider how it pushed the PS3 to its limits, how amazing the soundtrack was and if you consider the sound design and voice acting. But a 5 if you rate it purely on story and gameplay. It will never be a masterpiece for me.
@LP1ToTheEndOfTime
@LP1ToTheEndOfTime 4 жыл бұрын
Gamespot gave it an 8 and fanboys cancelled them for it .
@V_For_Vigilante
@V_For_Vigilante 4 жыл бұрын
This game is 0.5/100
@StanderdSolution
@StanderdSolution 2 жыл бұрын
6/10
@StanderdSolution
@StanderdSolution 2 жыл бұрын
@@V_For_Vigilante -6
@codewithfreeborn
@codewithfreeborn 5 ай бұрын
My friends hyped up this game so much, but after i played it to the end, i felt there was nothing special about it. It was just an average game. It wasn't bad, but it was just okay. At one point, i just wanted to be done with it. I enjoyed other games like Mad Max, God of War better.
@WildDogGamerBoy
@WildDogGamerBoy 4 жыл бұрын
You described my experience with this game to perfection. My friends regard this game as the best game ever made and I indulged myself to play it. I just beat it recently just to come out very dissatisfied. The story is derivative and so been there done that. I've seen this type of story done before and way more effectively. The environments are boringly similar which even Uncharted had better and more memorable setpieces. The enemy variety is painfully lacking to the point that the final boss of the game are two bloaters alongside a mob which is embarrassing when you already have much older games like Resident Evil and Silent Hill which have get this, VARIETY in terms of enemy design and boss battles. Hell even Dead Space which came before TLoU is a much better horror experience and it has a silent protagonist. The point is to me TLoU felt like a stripped down version of Resident Evil, it has no enemy, boss and environmental variety, the story is pretentious and the characters are as interesting as a potato, it has the most insultingly basic puzzles I've seen. There is nothing wrong with liking games that pretend to be movies but I don't like people telling me this is the best one the genre has to offer. If people want to hear my recommendation in movie-like games I would choose Metal Gear Solid 4. It has a lovable cast, awesome bosses, engaging story, unique setpieces and an unforgettable soundtrack. And it came out BEFORE TLoU during the early PS3 lifecycle.
@averagejay9480
@averagejay9480 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late, sorry. I just watched The Completionist sing the games praises like everyone else has always done and decided I can't be the only one with a differing opinion. The game bored me to tears with its "go grab a ladder, go grab a pallet" approach to varying the gameplay. The acting is great and it looks real pretty..... that's it! I also hated Joel and his final decision. The gameplay and story are an exercise in mediocrity but your video is superb, thank you.
@alec187
@alec187 3 жыл бұрын
My friend told me this was the most original and impactful telling of a post apocalyptic story... I was like, “ever heard of the mad Max trilogy??
@lukasribin4168
@lukasribin4168 Жыл бұрын
The Road
@alec187
@alec187 Жыл бұрын
@@lukasribin4168 the road 2009, Mad Max 1979
@XpertGreekGamer
@XpertGreekGamer 5 жыл бұрын
What a masterpiece of a vid, just like Matthewmatosis, "God Of War Case Study" which i was reminded of by this part. 16:54. And this is an old vid too, still gold though really well done. Games i -like- consider to be art: Bloodborne Hotline miami Team Fortress 2 And basically every other game i have on my poorly made youtube banner.
@milesmungo
@milesmungo 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I thought the game was good, but little more. The largest point of contention I have with this game (and many other games), is their desire to be film. I know many among us creative are deeply inspired by film, and they both use screens, but they're obviously very, very different media. To emulate film doesn't maximize the medium, I liken it to drawing a photorealistic rendering. It does showcase skill, but you can do so much more with a pen and pencil than recreate the physical world around you.
@zedoctor3724
@zedoctor3724 5 жыл бұрын
This might be buried by this point, but oh well. My main problem with this game is actually something I don't think a lot of people would think of, really. Anyone here play Spec Ops: The Line? (spoiler alert if you haven't played that game) Remember how Walker and his squad killed all those people just to accomplish their "mission", and at the end Walker gets exposed for the massive piece of shit he was all along? To me The Last of Us was like that, but unlike Spec Ops it didn't have the self-awareness to have nearly any character call him out for killing so many goddamn people just out of the "love" of protecting one person. I seriously think that the story would have been the masterpiece most people say it is if it focused on the ideas of, "How many bad things would you do to protect one person, and at the end would it REALLY be worth all the damage? When does acting out of survival go too far?" In some regards, I think TLOU played it too safe for what it tried to be. And for the record, I don't dislike the game. It's a 9/10 in my book, but I just think there's games with better stories and gameplay than this one.
@BrendanBraica
@BrendanBraica 4 жыл бұрын
So a flawed protagonist who literally chooses Ellie, who he sees as a daughter and cant let go of her because he cant get over his daughters death, over saving the entire human race is "playing it to safe"? Not to forget he killed dozens of soliders, a doctor and Marline just to be able to save Ellie. Tf you want from the game?
@BrendanBraica
@BrendanBraica 4 жыл бұрын
Also, he does get called out numerous times for killing people. But you must have missed that when you half passed through the game just so you could not like it because its popular
@kybrieus8631
@kybrieus8631 4 жыл бұрын
Biggus Dickus bruh it ain’t that serious, he literally said the game is a 9/10 and u still came at him I see you’re one of those fans🤦🏽‍♂️
@TehWinnerz
@TehWinnerz 4 жыл бұрын
fair enough but its kinda on the player to see that about Joel. The game doesn't need to spell it out for everyone
@c.m.9369
@c.m.9369 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother! I find it so frustrating, that people celebrate this game like they do. It's... ok. It's an ok survival-stealth game, and a fairly good story. But the story would have benefited from being told in the media of MOVIE (although, then people might realize that the story is fairly derivative), and the gameplay gets bogged down by the story aspect (e.g. the ally-AI, during sneaking sections, as you say). It's just obvious, that the ally characters are not part of the game, the way they are just invisible to the enemies. And if they are not part of the game, why are they even there? Well... because they are essential to the movie that keeps getting told in between the gameplay section. And for that, we sacrifice the immersion of the gameplay... in our VIDEOGAME. This game is less than the sum of its parts, because its parts pull each other down. It's a 6/10. Maybe a 7/10. Not more. And time won't be kind with this one, because as soon as the graphics and presentation have become outdated, this game won't turn any heads. If you want to tell a story about a relationship between two characters, and your gameplay only works if you make the world (like the AI) ignore the presence of one of these characters, why tell this story as a game?
@HeyItsTheWykydtron
@HeyItsTheWykydtron 4 жыл бұрын
The defense people throw at me with this game is that "You play it for the story" which is the stupidest fucking excuse ever. It's a video game! Game! If the story is all you want from the game then why not just go to KZbin and watch the whole cinematic story and save yourself several hours and $60.
@joaofilipesilva1234
@joaofilipesilva1234 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your point of view. Because frankly, Games are not an simple joyride as you think, they are an art that can be intellectualy stimulating, along as being a mature way to explore a relationship with interactivity in media.
@HeyItsTheWykydtron
@HeyItsTheWykydtron 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaofilipesilva1234 What? I'm not saying video games are not Art, I'm saying people (that I know) keep on saying that TLOU is the second coming of Christ in video game form because of the narrative and character development and I should "play TLOU for the story" which makes no sense to me because a great video game should be well rounded in both gameplay and story. Is TLOU a bad game? No. It's a good game and I do like it but it's not 'the best game ever' as what most people keep slapping me in the face with. What made it a "masterpiece" is the story and the character but I honestly think a true "masterpiece" is a game that can still be amazing even if it doesn't have a decent "cinematic" narrative.
@GeneralWinkster
@GeneralWinkster 3 жыл бұрын
Me looking at TLOU2: Yeah....that didn't end well. Also, Naughty Dog's greatest franchise was always...Crash Bandicoot 😀
@Eyes-Scream0213
@Eyes-Scream0213 2 жыл бұрын
People who think TLOU is a masterpiece should play more games. Most of the masterpiece games came from PS1 and PS2. TLOU is a good game but there are lot's of game that tou can consider a masterpiece. One example of a masterpiece is Silent Hill 2. Until now fans are still unlocking new theories and ideas about the game. It is so deep and really made an impact to the gamers. Same with the game Metal Gear Solid 2 because of the deep storytelling.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 Жыл бұрын
If thoe games are masterpieces then so is TLOU. Well if those games are masterpieces then TLOU is one too.
@djoshawott2850
@djoshawott2850 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I'd argue...this game being rather... bad and not enjoyable. It feels like the systems are at odds with each other: Explore to gather items but you can't explore, be resourceful with items that the game doesn't really give enough of, and deal with enemies that will fuck you over because the game decided you stood on the wrong pixxel that changes every time. Especially with Clickers, which I can describe as "anti-fun, the enemy". It makes the game frustrating, and every checkpoint I clear makes it feel like "ugh finally done with this shit" instead of "I feel accomplished that I overcame a difficult obstacle." No, I didn't beat the game, I don't want to. Because I hate this game with a passion for the reasons above, plus the story didn't interest me. Congrats, you made the same "this kid looks like my dead kid" story as Rodea the Sky Solider, ya want a fucking cookie?
@worldhaslosttheplot9735
@worldhaslosttheplot9735 6 жыл бұрын
Once again, shows you how brilliant games like half life 2, arkham asylum, mario 64, ocarina of time, metroid prime, halo 1, bioshock etc were. Simple games, simple story telling but Gameplay masterpieces.
@worldhaslosttheplot9735
@worldhaslosttheplot9735 5 жыл бұрын
@Slevin i dont think so. It was a simple premise, but the setting, and the way the gameplay flows made for a compelling play through (on your first play i suppose and apart from the weak boss fight at the end) Also, for its time, asylum was amazing until so many other games borrowed elements of its gameplay since then.
@jakewhite3132
@jakewhite3132 5 жыл бұрын
First off, my PS3 died trying to play the Last of Us for the first time, so I may be bitter about that. Other than that, I felt it was pretty okay. Better than Uncharted 3, but not by much. I know the plot has to happen somehow, but I was annoyed that Joel and Tess didn't just give up on their guns, shoot Marlene, and be on their way. I mean, she's already injured, and making demands of us when she doesn't really have the cards to do so. Plus, we just killed as business partner. Another thing I'm not particularly fond of is the game sections ending with big moments with character development and reactions to those moments happening off screen. We don't see the fallout to Ellie losing a friend and his brother, we don't see Joel bury those feelings because he's too cold to open up and heal, and we don't see how Ellie and Joel got as close as they did by the time Fall comes around. Bringing up the brothers, Tess, or Joel's daughter are the only times he acts cold to Ellie from that point until she runs away. I'll be honest, I don't quite remember how they separate in fall. I think he's pretty friendly, but still sees her as a job I'll also say, Ellie's character is pretty bipolar to what she sees (maybe it's true to people, I don't know, I'm not good with them). Most of the time she's a fowl mouthed teen who wants to kill people, and she's lived through enough of the zombie apocalypse to know what happens. And then she's a completely innocent kid, scared of violence, and bright eyed. She keeps asking for that gun to help us out, and then her first kill happens and she realises the weight of the situation (pretty great scene, actually), but 5 or so minutes later, there's a rifle lying around and she's okay with killing people. I don't think I had too much problems with Winter or Spring. The hospital shootout was okay, the ending is alright. Bill was the shit. Shootouts happened far too often for a world starving for bullets. A lot of the time it felt like a goddamn it moment. Nitpicky because I know a lot could change in 20 years, but it's weird how the Fireflies started this, but then they were the ones trying to end it. I'll also say I'm a little jaded because I seen the brothers dying the moment they were introduced and were completely normal. They were gonna try tug at our hearts, and I wouldn't let it happen.
@Percival917
@Percival917 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of this game was something Resident Evil never remembered: Durability for melee weapons.
@hopscotchoblivion7564
@hopscotchoblivion7564 5 жыл бұрын
Minecraft is a better survival game than Last of Us.
@eliasroflchopper3006
@eliasroflchopper3006 3 жыл бұрын
I played the last of us remastered today for the first time. I was so hyped, because people called it one of the best games ever bla bla bla. I'm immensely disappointed. This is easily one of the most frustrating, poorly designed games I have ever played. I normally love games like this and I went in the game with the expectation that I'm gonna love this one too. But nah.
@Resident4Island
@Resident4Island 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion my favorite game from Naughty Dog isn't The Last Of Us or Uncharted franchise is Crash Bandicoot that game was a real GOAT i remeber playing it on PS1 when i was 4 year's old.
@kinganarkzie
@kinganarkzie 5 жыл бұрын
07:40 is my first main gripe with the story, it just feels really generic. There is not a single thing in this games story that feels original and when every review is praising this aspect of the game I was just left feeling really disappointed by it add to that the game play is not very good and I cannot for the life of me workout what it is that makes people praise it so much.
@BrendanBraica
@BrendanBraica 4 жыл бұрын
Name one movie, show or game that has the same story and portrays the characters as well as this game. I hate seeing people call it "generic" and then talk about how games like Days Gone and Resident Evil are way better. This is the only zombie story ive seen that is unique (fungal infection) and feels like it could actually happen. But people like hating on things because its popular
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
kinganarkzie it’s unorginal, but still very well done and emotional, and the emotional aspect is uplifted by the in game interactions. It left an impact on me after I finished, and I think that’s a big reason why people praised it along with it being one of the first games to pull this type of story off very effectively. It is overrated but there’s a reason why.
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
Know 1 the last of us is more of a 7/10 for me. A good and very enjoyable game, but it’s still not the funnest game I’ve ever played.
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
Know 1 that’s because in my opinion it’s heavily overrated as a game, and I like it. Sheep mentality is a big reason why.
@thecalamity278
@thecalamity278 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrendanBraica agreed. Tlou is very original especially with the fungal infection rather than the OmG ZomBiE VirUs with not explanation. Not only that but the zombies are so cool, your have four stages of being infection and the clickers were very original
@roderickcortez138
@roderickcortez138 2 жыл бұрын
If I want a good story I'll watch a movie. I hate that games have become interactive movies.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 2 жыл бұрын
"Interactive movies" is not even the right combination of words because they are directly contradictory of each other. I love movies, but that's because they know what they are instead of pretentiously trying to imitate another medium.
@ajtemp2000
@ajtemp2000 6 жыл бұрын
My video game masterpieces list are Ninja Gaiden (xbox) Soul Calibur (Dreamcast) Grandia 2 (Dreamcast) Sonic Unleashed (PS3) There are many others, but off the top of my head, these no doubt are some of the games I personally have had the most fun playing ever.
@leecroft1983
@leecroft1983 5 жыл бұрын
ajtemp2000 Sonic Unleashed ??? What... ?
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 4 жыл бұрын
Soul Calibur on dreamcast in some way look better than some of the later titles. That art is excellent.
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