Attack on Titan S4 Episode 20 Reaction [Memories of the Future]

[@m33p0]

Zeke: "You were brainwashed by our father." Grisha: "Actually, Eren brainwashed me." Eren: "It was more of a 'suggestion'"

[@Raiyan678]

Isayama: "This story was a suggestion from Eren" XD

[@truth187]

@@alonymelony8047 I can't believe you just spoil the Hannes main character final twist

[@alonymelony8047]

@@truth187 shit sorry is it too late to delete the comment now?

[@lecameleon2500]

@@alonymelony8047 Hello, I erased your comment.

[@juliaalvarez537]

Le Caméléon Are you a KZbin mod

[@thomasmuller-15]

The parallel between Attack & Founding titan is amazing The Founding titan is controlled by its predecessor & the attack titan is controlled by its successor

[@deadlinetugas8181]

wow

[@lostpompeylad]

Awesome great analogy 👍

[@teddymecheto]

Oh yeah! 😳

[@bombaster3168]

@Parizal badass But it only makes sense if he is the last of those who have already inherited the Attack Titan, because if not, it would be from the next person onwards.

[@Cripplified]

@@bombaster3168 all I'll say is Eren's own words from season 1 "I'll eradicate all titans from this world"

[@lawrencemanego7508]

Basically, Eren spoiled Season 4 for himself when he kissed Historia’s hand

[@kevinabraham7059]

lmaooo underrated comment

[@mt2r-music]

I would do the same as eren in the episode after this if someone spoiled me said event

[@bijoychandraroy]

Can't blame him I would've destroyed the world too if someone spoiled me on aot

[@alfredovillalobos7481]

@@mt2r-music bro thinks he is eren

[@rfnugi]

"I'm not in danger, Zeke! I'm the danger! A guy opens his door and gets manipulated and you think that of me?! No! I'm the one who manipulates!" - Eren "Heisenberg" Jaeger

[@yuritrasimaco5201]

*A guy break the walls and commit genocide and you think that of me? No! I'm the one who break the walls and commit genocide!"

[@MethLord]

Say my name

[@ENKiDu-YT]

Best comment ever 😄👏🏻👏🏻

[@sgcastle8389]

@@MethLord Willy Teybur: "EREN YEAGER"

[@Superskate9999]

@@sgcastle8389 SONO NAWA...

[@denjipochita3398]

Teddy, Grisha’s VA deserves an oscar for stealing the show. “Memories of the Future” is one of the best, if not, the greatest twist in fiction. Eren pretty much told Isayama to write Attack on Titan. While Zeke was playing 5D Chess, Eren played him since birth.

[@teddymecheto]

Eren's a whole damn orchestra at this point

[@halfeldianhere]

as the saying goes when this chapter was released, "Eren decided how to be written" lol

[@marcovillalba366]

cringe

[@karthiiraja17]

@@marcovillalba366 saying cringe is cringe.

[@kzlbrendon9814]

this isn't even the best part of AoT. The next episode is the best just showing how mad this show actually is.

[@shayantanbanerjee9624]

Just to clear something. Time travel is not a thing in AoT. Only the memories and will to act travel. Zeke and eren were there the entire time, but grisha saw Zeke only twice. One was when he was in the basement and the other was outside the cave. Again, it's the memories. Grisha saw everything from eren's pov. The reason being eren was standing behind grisha and looking at Zeke on those two occasions. That's why grisha was able to see zeke only on those two occasions. Another thing, grisha never saw future eren, he just felt his presence. In the 🗝️ scene when grisha is looking at future eren, he's basically looking at himself in 3rd person. Also in the cave grisha felt eren's angry presence behind him. Grisha was literally being watched by eren all along and grisha knew this. Lastly, attack titan can see the future is a very oversimplified explanation. Actually it's the memories sent by eren to the past that makes AT see the future. Same happened when eren passed the memories to Kruger (the owl) when se said "you have to save Mikasa and Armin" to grisha. You may think how grisha touched Zeke. It's just that he was hugging the space where zeke was standing. In real time.if anyone had seen grisha would have thought grisha is just hugging air. That scene symbolises a "fake" hug or a "hollow" hug symbolising it's too late for.grisha to.redeem himself as zeke's father. Hope this adds another layer to what you already understood ☺️

[@Omega_Star_]

thing is it's thanks to the founding titan eren managed to manipulate memories, not the Attack titan, the attack titan was only the way for his father to connect with them in the future. not gonna spoil anything but more will be explained near the end.

[@shayantanbanerjee9624]

@@Omega_Star_ yes exactly. Eren could have done all this even if he had the cart titan. You need to have an intelligent titan, founder and access to royal blood. This is exactly what eren has at this point in the paths.

[@mikona4941]

imagine being grisha , you're about to go to sleep and someone is watching you it will be scary

[@everything483]

@@shayantanbanerjee9624 but the attack titan never bows to anyone and rebels against the founder wishes which aligns with erens character. So won't what eren doing now change if he had any other titan power?

[@shayantanbanerjee9624]

@@everything483 all titans have different characteristics. But they are all physical. Femal Titan's versatility, armoured Titan's defence, beast Titan's throw, cart Titan's durability, colossal's heat and steam, warhammer's ability to create weapons, jaw's mobility and strong jaws . All are physical. Moving forward and not obeying and seeking freedom is something that is mental, it comes from within. Now Titan's don't have a mind or brain to feel those things. The holder of the titan does. Throughout history attack titan seeking freedom.was actually eren's will. He sent memories to the past to make the attack titan inheritor to keep moving forward so everything could come to.this point. Eren IS the Attack Titan. If it had been any other titan holder who happened to have the founder as well and access to royal blood, they could have done the same. It's not something intrinsic to the attack titan

[@vritra2031]

Zeke was the son Grisha wanted in Paradis while Eren was the son needed in Marley

[@DOUDOULON]

SO TRUE

[@achuzheh5324]

It's just Rumbling Rumbling

[@yuritrasimaco5201]

BEWAREEEEEEEEEEEE

[@remington2216]

Life works in mysterious way

[@Woelock]

@@yuritrasimaco5201 I've always heard it as "break free" and it just makes more sense to me.

[@j.m.9519]

You've probably read this a couple of times: S1: "Eren is in danger!!" S2: "Eren is in danger!!" S3: "Eren is in danger!!" S4: "Eren IS THE DANGER"

[@dripmonke6112]

S1: Eren Humanity's last hope S2: Eren the Coordinate S3: Eren the Attack Titan S4: Eren the Devil of Paradis Island

[@vsGoliath96]

Erwin: "Eren, you're the last hope for Humanity." Eren: "Sure, but how about *GLOBAL GENOCIDE* instead?

[@dripmonke6112]

@@vsGoliath96 Erwin: Shinzou Sasageyo

[@kurisutina8067]

remember that time when people always roast eren when he always get's kidnap? Good times.

[@dearen7588]

Remember when Eren sorta laugh cried when Conny told him that Sasha died? He asked him what her last words were probably to confirm that what he saw in the future was actually happening. He was probably thinking at the moment: "Fuck, it really is all going to happen the way I can see it" and knowing he will have to do terrible things.

[@Celeborn93]

Indeed. I believe Sasha's death and Connie's confirmation of her last words was the last push Eren needed in order to follow through with his plan to reach the other side. (The other side being whatever lies beyond the future Eren has seen.)

[@TheCelticD]

I feel like that confirmation would've came the moment he said "Now or never Mikasa"

[@meman7831]

Memories travelling back in time at the will of Attack Titan's owner was 1000 iq move by Isayama

[@Trathien-]

it doesnt go back at the will of the user, just like past memories are to sent to future inheritors by will

[@rafailbaldal6062]

@@Trathien- No dawg, it goes according to future holder's will. Thats the reason why Eren didnot show everything that will happen to Eren, at this moment Grisha himself asks why Eren wont show him if Carla is safe in the future?

[@pecoliky8793]

What is 1000iq about giving the main character a plot device which is a power that can essentially change the entire story and get the author out of every dead end when writing? Besides aot is prewritten, so iseyama roughly knew what would happen well before he reached this point. Once you comprehend that much its actually quite normal.

[@myrongaines6022]

Apparently he was inspired by the three eyed raven from Game of Thrones

[@niceandflyy]

*by eren

[@tejasjoshi3345]

*NO SPOILERS* Zeke fell on the soft sand, he could feel it slipping out of this hand. "I am back", Zeke thought, "back at the coordinate". He could see Eren stand at the same place with the same shackles in his hands. "How could this be ? The attack titan can see the future" Zeke looked at Eren who was staring down at him. Those eyes. It's as if the deep daggers inside those eyes stabbed Zeke right in the heart. Zeke couldn't move an inch. They were transfixed in the same position eyes locked. Victim Child of Liberio against the Angry child of Paradise. Empathy against Sacrifice. "Eren knew all along. He has seen the future." Zeke wondered. Tears welled up in his eyes again. He cannot save a child who has no will to change. A child who is willing to sacrifice multiple lives to reach his endgoal. "What did all this bloodshed bring Eren ? What is it you want ? What are you trying to accomplish?. Talk to me Eren" Unending wave of questions flooded Zeke's brain, but he realised he didn't say a word out aloud. Fear-stricken, Zeke's mouth was left wide open. Eren with an emotionless face saw Zeke trembling in fear. Zeke couldn't move a muscle. He was not a child who was to be saved, not a brother who could see the goal behind Zeke's plan. Eren was not a bystander while the walls of Paradise still stand. These walls representing ignorance, pain and slavery. He is not just a mother's son who wants revenge. He is the embodiment of all the memories of the future and the past, the accumulation of the pain of the future, the past and the present. He is a devil who submits to no one , who charges towards freedom, a rebel against this cruel world. He is, what he was before he was born and what he will be long till his death, The Attack Titan.

[@K41Z3RR]

beautifully

[@Daniel-ns71617]

This was excellent

[@tejasjoshi3345]

@@K41Z3RR Thanks

[@tejasjoshi3345]

@@Daniel-ns71617 Arigato gozaymas

[@suryanarayana9525]

Ayo wtf.. this was awesome!!

[@alpfeanor6431]

Eren sees his own future within Grisha's memories, but Grisha only sees the memories that are hand-picked and sent to him by future Eren. In other words, Eren manipulated his past-self and everything, to achieve his goal.

[@wedoitlive18]

nope. he can be manipulating himself. If that is true, then it will a slap on his own cheek by saying he was always the same since born. Eren has never been manipulated by himself from the future. As he move forward, every decision he mades has been based on his desire to achieve the freedom. *edit: i might misunderstood your statement. If you are talking about Grisha. then u are right :)

[@46corazon]

@@wedoitlive18 I wouldn't talk about the plot if you're an animé only. You might get spoiled.

[@dearen7588]

I think Eren started seeing a lot after he kissed Historias hand, maybe that was necessary for him to unlock all the memories. He was so deeply affected after it too. Makes you wonder about the "If we kill all our enemies there will we truly be free?" Did he see himself doing that?

[@Othomqcpwr]

We see in the episode what he saw when he kissed historia's hand. There is the massacre of the Reiss family (preview seems to indicate that we'll get another POV next week) that we saw in s3, but current Eren sent memories of the future to Grisha during that time, so S3 Eren saw those memories and so he saw part of the future. Grisha says that he saw Eren accomplish his objective, and that he was horrified by it. Then we see Eren talking about killing everybody across the ocean after seeing those memories and the OP is literally called the Rumbling, so we can guess what the horrible plan is. The sequence ends with Grisha telling Zeke to stop Eren and immediately after, we see Eren with a look of shock on his face. That's because his father, an eldian restorationist, is rejecting Eren and the future where Eldia (at least Paradis maybe not the Eldians outside Paradis since he was asking if we kill all of our enemies on the other side of the sea) is saved because of the destruction required to accomplish that. So Eren didn't see the whole thing, just what current Eren showed Grisha (paradoxically, he could only show Grisha that, because that's the only part of the future he saw through memories), Grisha said "Why won't you show me everything?" indicating that the attack titan can choose which memory to show and that previous users can't see the whole future.

[@dripmonke6112]

When Rod and Historia touched him in cave scene why didn't he get all the memories there? Was there something in the way? Who or what didn't allow him to see all the memories of the subjects of Ymir past, present, and future?

[@taederias1804]

@@Othomqcpwr Note: it is not possible to decide either way from what has been shown so far, but Eren isn’t actually restricted to sending memories received via Grisha as this all goes down, he doesn’t need to “live-stream” it so to speak (whether he could or not). All that is required is that at some point in the future he use the Attack Titan to send back memories of these scenes to Grisha - to the exact point in time that Eren and Zeke were, in this episode, watching a “recording” of via the Founder. Eren and Zeke would then see Grisha act as if the interactions happened in real time, directly (Grisha back then would also be able to see Zeke too whenever the latter is in Eren’s sights). Point is, there is no rush, Eren can send back the memories of these scenes and others at whatever point in the future.

[@alpfeanor6431]

Future Eren planned everything... What a plot twist man. This anime is sick! By far the best.

[@michaelguzman2822]

wait until the last ep 💀💀

[@HollowDude13]

@@michaelguzman2822 dude ya'll gotta stop with this "WaIt UnTiL tHe LaSt Ep!1!1!1!"

[@michaelguzman2822]

@@HollowDude13 why? It was not a good ending to say the least 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@aeins.]

GAD DAYUM GRISHA'S VA is goddam good! He needs an award like anything. The emotions are transcended. Goosebumps

[@halfeldianhere]

yeah he needs an Emmy or any other Anime voice acting awards hell probably a Daesang even idc

[@MelloParasite96]

It's trippy but it's not like Grisha himself can see Zeke: Grisha sees the memories of the future Eren exploring these memories with Zeke, so Grisha sees Zeke through Eren. Notice how everytime Grisha sees future Zeke, future Eren is also looking at Zeke.

[@celeschan90]

If you look at Eren's positioning in the scenes, notice how Grisha is only able to see Zeke when he's in Eren's field of vision? In Grisha's office, Eren was standing behind Grisha, looking at both his father and Zeke. And at the end, first Grisha didn't see Zeke, just assumed that he was there. But then he sees him, and soon after we see Eren approached them from behind Grisha, viewing both of them. It seems like Grisha sees these future memories through the point of view of Eren's eyes. So when he was staring at Eren in the doorway, it was actually that he saw himself through Eren's eyes. So he knew Eren was standing there in front of him.

[@Alex-fo8ue]

Zeke went it the wrong way. I know what he should have done. Just imagine : Eren : "It's pointless Zeke, I am 20 steps ahead of you, these memories leave me completely indifferent." Zeke : "Ok Eren, if it's like that, unless you submit immediately, we are going to rewatch *every* Grisha/Carla sex scene from your conception." Eren : "Noooooooooo...." 😂😂😂

[@koolkat123]

Yea eren was disgusted by his father's actions all right, disgusted by his weakness and inability to kill that whole family for his goal.

[@dripmonke6112]

It seems Eren cares more about the royal family than saving Mikasa lol

[@dearen7588]

His goal being not just lying down to take it up the ass like Grisha was about to.

[@koolkat123]

@@dearen7588 haha, right. interesting framing.

[@dearen7588]

@@koolkat123 I am not the one framing Eren as someone who'd kill a family for the kick of it.

[@koolkat123]

@@dearen7588 did I say for the kick of it or did I say for his goal

[@rfnugi]

It's quite funny and ironic to know that how the Founding Titan was ruled by its predecessors, yet the Attack Titan was ruled by its successors. Isayama really knows how to make a parallel story.

[@Eren-da-Jaeger]

no one said this yet. You are right how Attack titan is completely opposite of Founding. Yet both of them resided inside Eren for so long

[@emmanueladedeji3335]

Thats a great point!!

[@d0decadice]

Loved the way that the show gives subtlety to how the Attack Titan power works. All Titan Shifters can see past memories of past users like Armin having Bertholdt's meories but the Attack Titan is different, the user can basically see memories of the future users as well. Like Eren Kruger mentioning Mikasa and Armin's name when he talked to Grisha. (Season 3 Episode 21) Grisha can literally see Eren's memories of both his sons watching him. So he has a live feed through Eren's eyes as long as Eren is willing to share his memories to past Grisha.

[@PricefieldPunk]

Someone pointed out that if Grisha tried to take the founding titan when he first discovered the church he would have had to fight Uri and Kenny instead of Freda and Grisha probably would have been killed. Thats crazy, his love for Eren saved him and saved the whole plan.

[@rfnugi]

Eren whispered to Grisha: "Fuck them kids!"

[@breakfastyummy5436]

In AOT there's no choosing side & judging who's right or wrong. It's just a rollercoaster ride of emotions, pain, suffering and plot twists.

[@dripmonke6112]

Except for Alliance they are definitely wrong

[@aligmal5031]

9:45 if you read chapter 1 page 40 of the manga you will see that grisha was actually looking in front of him like that this is some next level foreshadowing

[@marcovillalba366]

cringe

[@mikasaackerman6199]

@@marcovillalba366 no

[@PUULETO]

@@marcovillalba366 tf man ?

[@akaza_Snow_Compass]

@@marcovillalba366 stop it. Get some help. Saying cringe everywhere is cringe..bodoh

[@Lazer-bp9lf]

You gotta think about this this way, Grisha HATES Marley. He hates Marley with every inch of fiber. He despises them in what they did to him, to the people that were dear to him and to all the Eldians. He is basically Pro-Eldia but just think how insanely messed up Eren's plan must really be to make even someone like Grisha say it was a bit too far. Eren's plan is indeed very horrific (I've read the manga) and Grisha saw glimpses of it (only what Eren wanted him to see). That's why he tells Zeke to stop Eren by all means necessary.

[@teddymecheto]

That was probably the biggest twist for me - Grisha telling Zeke to stop Eren. That's when I knew shit's about to go way down

[@breakfastyummy5436]

In the end Grisha & Zeke understanding eachother, hugging eachother and crying together was so heartwarming.

[@breakfastyummy5436]

"If someone tries to take my freedom away,,, I won't hesitate to take theirs" ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼Eren Jaeger explained in 1 line...

[@junioryeahhh560]

Now I feel so bad for Grisha and Carla, they were just tools for the birth of the biggest devil in history.😱🤯 That final moment between Zeke and Grisha was one of the most powerful, painful and emotional in this entire series.😭😳

[@InanisNihil]

lol eren hitler / adolf jeager lmao tbh eren is worse and has a way bigger messiah/savior complex... xb out side of well written characters BECAUSE its reflective of real humans and their various traits good and bad.. i cant support or side with eren at all.. and as a german .. i wont justify or make excuses for hitler via fictional well written character like eren xD nope..I WONT DO IT... isyama WILL NOT lowkey get me to do it... lmao

[@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi]

@@InanisNihil except Eren is no hitler, and even if he was, that would mean every other shifter is as well. besides, not to spoil, but the manga proved that Eren didn't stop being the hero of the story

[@user-lr6hw4dq4t]

Grisha : Why won't you show me everything Eren?? Eren : Cuz I don't want you get spoiled Dad. 😎😎

[@JohnWick-ut1tj]

After this episode in s3e11 Grisha got to know that Carla is dead as Eren didn't showed him only showed that she's in danger and He had to kill them

[@mediumsurmoon6283]

Considering what will happen , I teared up when Eren stared at himself wrapping his scarf around Mikasa ;w: BTW , am I the only one that noticed Frieda spoke with a heavy accent when Karl's will took over her body ? It's almost like Karl Fritz himself spoke the word

[@ronan1105]

The fact that Zeke travelled with Eren for years to let him understand shows that Zeke truly cares for him.

[@MrMisterman1]

It's a closed loop. No beginning, no end, just one endless cycle. Classic chicken and egg scenario

[@halfeldianhere]

Teddy since it's revealed officially that the Attack Titan can see its holder's future memories, all 3 times Grisha saw Zeke in Eren's memories was only because Eren was facing Zeke. This scene 8:26 is so dope, Grisha realized Eren visited him and he's also looking at himself and Zeke

[@Lakross101]

Ah I never noticed. When Eren spoke to Armin and Mikasa, his face had a weird effect similar to when he was red on the train with the og squad. Maybe that's why Eren has that long hair even now, to hide those red ears his mom teased at lmao

[@matheusfranco3903]

that's it. When there is time travel and no "mutiverse" the time line is just one. So what happened in the future also happened in the past at the same time, been the attack titan allowed eren to see everything, and the contact he had with historia allowed him to have the knowledge about ymir submission. when eren uses the attack titan power to see the future and showing grisha what would happen, basically, everything that happened, happened because of eren.

[@CodeeXD]

I think my favorite part of this is when Grisha is pleading with Frieda and it cuts to Eren all pissed off, you can hear a low rumbling. Also Eren wasn't lying when he said Grishas actions on the night he stole the foubder disgusted him. He was disgusted by Grishas inability to follow through with his mission, to keep moving forward, without Erens intervention

[@misterparadoxal]

Basically every time Grisha "sees" Zeke or Eren, he's seeing them because of Eren's memories of that exact moment. Whenever he sees Zeke, Eren is always looking at him from behind Grisha.

[@vsGoliath96]

God I absolutely loved this section of the manga when it originally came out. Because you suspected that Eren was ahead of everyone, but until the moment, you didn't realize the absolutely bonkers level of 4-D chess he had been playing since the beginning. And the look of absolute horror on Zeke's face when he realizes? Priceless.

[@chinyereugwu9431]

Eren was playing checkers because even with all the memories he had he couldn't grasp that Ymir was pissed at the 1st King Fritz so the last thing she would want is to carry out his wishes. ymir was always going to make sure that Eren lost and that he died. Ymir was never ever going to side with Eren since that would keep her a slave. Eren was a fool.

[@spinningredchair8092]

Them going through Grishas memories wasn't just revisiting memories. They were THERE. Guiding Grisha along (well eren was)

[@mattiascloverleaf2076]

Grishas voice actor was so emotional and delivered one of the best VA performances imho.

[@DanM4ster]

Eren is the protagonist, and the antagonist, and the hero, and the anti-hero, and the villain.

[@mmor7380]

"Rather than let them take my freedom, I will take theirs first" what ultimate boss line, the dialogues in aot are so good,

[@黒木舜平]

他のリアクターの人よりも過去のエピソードを覚えてるし、それに繋げられているし観てて楽しいです

[@TrampMachine]

Erin only knew what his role was after he kissed Historian's hand, then he saw everything Zeke just saw.

[@Timeforspas12]

This twist is just... People are confused by this episode, with reasons to. There is no time travel, they literally inception their father because of the Attack titan power, to see the future inheritors memories. The small detail is that Eren saw his own memories of his future through Grisha as well. He knows that his plan will work. HE F*CKING KNOWS.

[@Tderesse]

I think these quotes should help with the dilemma/debate about the different sides and their different perspectives. To me, there's not a specific one to support all the way bc they have their own flaws. -No Right and Wrong: "whos to say they are in the wrong. the only truth in this world is that there is no truth" - Kruger -Choose a side: “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim." -Eli Weisel (Holocaust survivor) -Tatake: If you lose, you die. If you don't fight, you can't win!” (If everyone is fighting for something, may the fittest survive) -Armin, Scouts: "If you want peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies. " -Eren 'betraying' Scouts: "The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended." -Euthanization: "No one knows what the outcome will be. So, as much as you can... choose whatever you'll regret the least." - Captain Levi

[@prncssanneliese]

Grisha never manipulated or brainwashed Eren, Eren brainwashed Grisha.

[@simpdestroyer5743]

I think the reason why Grisha didn't see the death of Carla because Eren didn't inherit the Attack Titan yet when Carla died.

[@xJinxKazama]

I am glad that out of all the reactors on youtube, as an anime only, you got the story of aot. I applaud you for that. I am a manga reader and am essentially future eren in that sense, but I just wanted to thank you for connecting the dots.

[@halfeldianhere]

righttttt !!?!? 👌🏾

[@roycearnaiz4859]

Grisha,s voice actor had to have grammy award he really got me ..that's fuckin hit me big time 🥶

[@metallicakevin1]

I feel sorry fot the people who will watch this dubbed.

[@roycearnaiz4859]

Your big check ihate anime in dub only naruto dub is d only one i accept the rest is trash sub is way more better I almost cry wtf.. He's that good igot chills🥶

[@myawoo]

@@roycearnaiz4859 Death Note, Black Lagoon , Code Geass, Monster so many good dubs are there.

[@roycearnaiz4859]

Thanks for d info but don't know that anime tho iknow deathnote watching it in dub got me lost interest of it all of a sudden I'm sorry not a fan of dub....

[@lasthope3048]

@@metallicakevin1 just checked out the dub and it was pretty good although not as good as the Japanese one.

[@HenryHoang-x]

I can sense Eren's anger as if I were him, why is it OUR PEOPLE who have to die.

[@wilmaso]

That ost in the beginning gives me the chills. I think it's called atonement... perfect for this episode.

[@samlu6547]

Everyone's jaw just dropped in this EP But manga readers just like, it's nicely animated

[@ezthicc4296]

Imagine being mindblown just by reading it. And now, seeing the anime-only fans in that scene, "Yep, same" *sips wine*

[@izdihartinina8354]

I have read the manga last year but still be mindblown by this eps😁 Because then I realize some new little things that maybe I miss it before.

[@KaiKo6666]

The titles of the first and next episodes are symmetrical

[@tylerlaunius7396]

I started watching you from your AoT reactions just the other day, and I just wanted to say that I enjoy your content and reactions on here a lot. I really like your art, and I think you're very pretty. I hope you keep doing what you do.

[@amr8113]

The explanation of Grisha managing to see Zeke, and seeing Eren is not that they went to the past. Grisha can see glimpses of Eren's memories from the future (when Zeke forces Eren to surf his dad's memories), and when he felt Zeke in the room, Eren was standing right behind Grisha, so he saw what Eren was seeing, also when he used to look at Eren directly, he was seeing what Eren was seeing; himself. Even in the last scene he wasn't seeing Zeke physically, he was just seeing what Eren was seeing. This Isyama guy is brilliant !

[@IvanTheUnholy]

This reminds me a lot of the movie Arrival. Where time is a circle and the future influences and guides the past towards that very future happening to begin with.

[@silverdelgado6355]

Also one thing I thought might be possible is when Eren saw the memories of the royal family getting murdered what if he saw himself and what he had become so that’s why he was so disgusted with it?

[@yagmur7171]

thank you for accepting that eren has always been like this! a lot of people brush this off and act like season 4 eren is a completely different person

[@OniGG]

He goes back to tailor every experience for himself to make him the way he is after the historia kiss if you go back to season 1 episode 1 and 2 you can literally see season 4 eren in the crowd watching

[@wilson16]

Eren only knew the future when he kissed Historia's hand, that was the moment he saw grisha's memory, and in those memories grisha has received future eren's memories.

[@sunshinezzz4466]

But why can eren see Grisha’s memories ONLY when he touches someone with royal blood? Why can’t he see his predecessor’s memories regardless of this royal blood thing, just like all other titan shifters can, Just like armin saw Bertoldt’s memories?

[@giusydimaio1428]

I felt the pain you felt too from the scene where eren stands to see that mikasa memory one last time. I can't do this

[@billygoat1547]

My friend asked me about the memory travel and how they could interact with the past. I had a hard time trying to explain then I got it, “You ever seen Interstellar?” “It’s like that?” “It’s like that.”

[@megatroneata9911]

This proves that powerful storytelling can even make you root for a villain who wants to destroy the world.

[@teddymecheto]

Right! Very similar to death note. Love a good MC villain story

[@the1aboveall483]

I've been waiting for your reaction -since 2000 years- . The OST in this episode was intense, you can feel the tension building from the start and then finally that ending twist , 100/10 episode

[@teddymecheto]

RIGHT?! the OSTs were doing a really good job and keeping me on edge aside from the story ofc but damn

[@sAkmaestro4763]

Teddy: he broke the cycle-- WOAH?! Zeke: that girl and I are on the same page

[@giannidelbaretto04]

Basically Grisha could see them. They are not seeing his memories while in the present, they are doing it in that coordinate place where Ymir Fritz is. There is no time there. So they are actually seeing Grisha's memories the moment he is living it.

[@renvtoo2445]

god damn your so smart, as a manga reader i can tell that your really fast at catching this hints and storybuilding ^^ love seeing your reactions ngl

[@olivasjluisc3171]

Eren couldn't see the titan's memories because he needed the royal blood, it's not until the moment he grabs Historia's hand at the end of season 3 when he was able to see the future memories

[@TawnyGryn]

Eren - Eldia's Hero Zeke - World's Hero

[@Jack_L]

What’s really interesting is we are told the Attack Titan has always been driven by a desire for freedom. My first thought was how ironic it was in this episode that we learn that all this time the future is set in stone, and the Attack Titan knows this, so essentially it is the one being that knows that no one really has free will, everything is predetermined. My second thought, and this is pure speculation, I haven’t read the manga, is that since the Attack Titan is essentially controlled by its successor, what if Eren is the end of the line and it has been his desire for freedom that has driven the Attack Titan for thousands of years? That would be a pretty cool twist.

[@izdihartinina8354]

the most ironic part for me is that. I already have this bad feeling since the first ep when eren's dream under the tree has been shown. That time I wanna stop watch right away because it must be so ironic. But too bad if I stop watch it too soon like that. So I continue it until I forgot about that dream. Then it happens now in the final season. True that we can not change the future. We just following the path that already set in the stone until now.

[@highlander31527]

What will really get you going is this train of thought: Marley had full control of seven of the nine Titans. The Founder was in Paradis. The Attack Titan was just running around, free, wherever it wanted. No one but the Owl knew he held the Attack Titan. And no one knew but Grisha when he held it. Marley couldn't catch it. Because the holder was free to send memories back to ensure Marley could not capture it. Eren did not just ruin Grisha, he also ruined the Owl, and every holder of the Attack Titan prior in order to keep it free of Marley control. Remember how the Owl complained about how much his life sucked and that he had wasted it killing his own people and that he did not even know why? Eren.

[@OmegaDenz96]

What makes the Reiss basement scene more epic is they also used the same theme they did way back in Season 3 part 2.

[@SIRafael98]

5:15 its beacuse he sees erens memory too, when eren saw the picture he said im sorry then ere looked at zeke and grisha saw him too, he sees from erens pov bcs of the memory thing :) same thing later when zeke and grisha are hugging. He cant see eren but can sense his presence EDIT: so u caught it :D the other reactors didnt :))

[@leviackerman1799]

This is how the main villain of the series creates the protagonist...LOL..

[@kartikeytyagi2330]

That's why Eren is so strongly trying to fight it. What's freedom for them when everything is pre determined, Change that future by taking everything in your own hands

[@manzanasrojas6984]

5:55 because he was huehuehue this episode just manifested how strong zekes daddy complex is and how he projected it onto eren all this time and all the eldians pretty much, hence he doesnt have a problem with the euthanization if this saves everyone from living through what he had to live through.

[@karthiiraja17]

In simple term its is kinda like time paradox. Eren hold the key of the destiny which confirms he is the last attack titan and everything end with him. Thats why eren keeps saying he is free not a slave (grisha).

[@mrr_kizo8707]

Thie episode mark the birth of the biggest menace of society Historia : Eren I am not angry at you , you are not the one who killed my family Eren : Yess !! I am not the bullet , I am the one who is shotting the gun

[@TawnyGryn]

that moment with Historia must be when he unlocked all his memories

[@abdieladams]

"Grisha: Attack Titan is able to know the future." Once I agreed with it until I watched Disney+ Loki. It is more than that. 😳

[@jordanpatterson8536]

Technically it isn't over, Zeke still has the Founder Ymir on his side.

[@tyzo4291]

yes and things will go bad very quickly.. for zeke

[@_tm.b_3532]

Yeah basically everything was set in stone from the start. Not by fate or god, but by future Eren himself. The real mastermind

[@leviackerman1799]

19:33 That's the benefit of getting to rewatch AoT actually..Grisha basically went through a whole redemption arc..in the episode called "That day", we can clearly see him express his regrets about how he treated Zeke...

[@ОбразцовТимофей]

Eren, chained up, stands there resolute and terrifying. Zeke, who has all the power in the world, lies on the ground, lost and scared.

[@OmegaDenz96]

We must know that Grisha did not want what he and Zeke's relationship turned out to be. He's just loaded with so much responsibility as a restorationists leader and his dire need to have a revenge against Marley as soon as possible. Remembering his dialogue way back in season 3 part 2 as Eren go through Grisha's Marley memories. So maybe Grisha's thinking that as for his atonement to what he'd done to Zeke, he's going to pour all his love and care for his son Eren, and not just because Krugger said so.

[@mrchefcheck]

What Frieda was basically saying was that Eren's mother (Eldians) had to die for sins she didn't commit at a moment when she could've been saved. I understand his anger.

[@rizurper]

Eren: *Orchestrated past and future Light Yagami: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!

[@Elias.M92]

Also future future Eren showed himself only glimpses as he did with his father to assure that things would happen. And Eren the moment he became stoic and cold it was the moment he knew what would happen in the future (when he kissed Historia’s hand) and that there is nothing stopping it. Eren is the prisoner of his obsession with freedom. Ironic.

[@PheonixDeath1]

I don't think Grisha could actually see them because it's memories not time travel. Maybe the physical stuff was for the viewer to understand?

[@calvinyager1819]

Eren the villain confirmed. I was always confused when I watched S3 reactions to why Grisha would pass his titan powers to Eren since he seemed like a good parent in Paradis.

[@YKGH38]

If you pay close attention to this episode you will realize that the words eren used to manipulate his father into completing his mission are the same words kruger (the owl) used to motivate grisha into continuing his mission in season 3 episode 21. Like “Keep going even in death, even after death” And “you were the one to start this story” I was mind blown when i learned this

[@jasonmichael6543]

If everything is set in stone, then Eren is truly not free, and he never has been. So when he insults Mikasa and fights Armin, I think thats why he looks hurt/angry when Armin is like "You're the one who's a slave." I always wondered why that insult seemed to momentarily break the cool and distant facade he had going. That's my head canon at least lol

[@silverdelgado6355]

I’m still rocking with Eren no matter what terrible thing Grisha says he’s about to do

[@zaidsyed8187]

Hehe

[@TheMrjxam]

Love how Grisha leaves Rodd only so Historia can kill him and in turn Eren kissing her hand to see the future memories.

[@Omega_Star_]

I wonder who made him do it lmfao

[@TheMrjxam]

@@Omega_Star_ lol

[@Tea-Spin]

Eren joined "it all according to keikaku" along with Aizen, Light, etc.

[@ryuta8864]

Just want to say , Gabi almost save the world last episode

[@Omega_Star_]

Basically Eren saw all this play out the moment he kissed Historia's hand which fucked with his mind and made him mad about his father's betreyal and set on a path wich he basically set himself on.

[@wedoitlive18]

is he truly mad at his father tho? i felt like every hatred word that he used against his father was just to play along with Zeke. or maybe his mind really become fucked up with the overloaded informations.

[@Omega_Star_]

@@wedoitlive18 its Eren character in play here, he keeps stealing people's freedom before they steal his, his own father included.

[@guilbertlam7517]

About how Grisha see Zeke, it is because actually Grisha can see eren's memory and evertime when Grisha see Zeke , eren is standing at the opposite side. Same goes to why at the memory Grisha can see Eren as well.