Attorney John Ray on the Future of the LISK Investigation

Shannan Gilbert Family Attorney, John Ray, returns to the show to discuss how the resignation of SCPD Commissioner Rodney Harrison may change the future of the LISK investigation. #lisk #gilgobeach #truecrimewiththesarge #truecrime #gilgobeach
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[@robinbee7799]

The Commissioner will be missed. I’m sad he is leaving.😢

[@justmeonly986]

-You both now have an international audience. - We will pay to be part of the symposium! - Thank you!!!

[@amyemmert6350]

John i love your passion for the victims.

[@giorgismama8024]

Fascinating live.Thank you to Joe and John.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching giorgismama!

[@mandychadwick8762]

Mr Ray deserves a donation

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I’ll be posting that information under the Community tab. Click on the 🔔 bell for notifications

[@chasingthejackpots8444]

This country needs more lawyers,humans un general like Mr Ray, God bless him 🙏♥️

[@bluetuesday]

Attorney John Ray is a rock star💥🌟✨

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree 100%

[@cherylschumaker1366]

Smart and up to date

[@robinbee7799]

Thank you, John Ray for all your hard work.

[@carolkarst-wasson2413]

Nothing better on a Sunday. Feel like I’ve been to church to hear the gospel of truth. Thank you gentlemen.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you Carol for spending your tine with us!

[@melissafreerangepsychic8970]

You are both fantastic!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you Melissa!

[@amyemmert6350]

And when they're done helping with this case they need to go after the corruption

[@MaryVegas007]

I will never forget Mr Ray standing on the windy beach with the families of all the victims A real hero ❤

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Mary!

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree. No one has done more for the victims and families of LISK

[@alexperkins8433]

Agree. Mr Ray is a true hero.

[@ninalangaroudy9844]

John Ray is a great man and has done a lot for the families of the victims🌻

[@ArtWithViv]

I had to rewatch this there was so much new information shared. Mr. Ray never disappoints.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Viv! And Me Darcy too

[@SMCulture]

John Ray and Rodney Harrison should be recognized for their dedication and service to the community. People like myself have been following the case from across the US and others worldwide. Huge thank you to your guests and for hosting them. Nw to your channel. Great work, Joseph!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree 100%

[@christineakascorpgirl72]

Exactly

[@christineakascorpgirl72]

I'm shocked your ok John Ray my goodness ❤ tour sitting amongst good guys like right next to you because you're not a cop and like many of us, what you know is enough, and we appreciate you both. I gotta sleep finish when I wake thank you guys

[@lindamalcolm2743]

Thanks once again Joseph. Excellent show, I could listen to you and Mr Ray all day. I’m sorry that the Police Commissioner has resigned, but, as an ongoing criminal investigation, the new man/woman will have to pick up the gauntlet. Tell Mr Ray to put his conference on a pay per view, I would certainly watch. Regards from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Linda!

[@truecrimeLI]

I wonder if it will be taped?

[@theresamezza5204]

Thanks Joe and John! Great show! I pray this case gets solved even when the Commissioner leaves💙💙💙

[@truecrimeLI]

Me too. It feels like there is finally a light at the end of the tunnel.

[@amyemmert6350]

I would hope investigators are looking at any and all cases with similarities in any state he has been in!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

That is protocol, but you never know. Las Vegas did fight to get his DNA profile

[@jerseygirl5239]

Thank you both for keeping the spotlight on this case! We need closure, satisfaction, whatever term you wish to use for the families! Proud of the courage of Rodney Harrison and I truly hope the next commissioner will follow his lead!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Jersey girl

[@alexperkins8433]

Glad youre covering this. I feel certain there is a trail of horrors every place this psycho has been. So dark. Calling the sister of the victim & torturing her with stories of how her beloved sibling was murdered - what a sicko. Im sure there are heaps of stories, like this and worse, related to this hateful angry sadist. Cant wait to see this monster put on trial, publicly shamed & convicted for his dark deeds. So glad John Ray is on the case. Thanks for following this J Giacalone. Cheers from down under.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Alex!

[@helendeegan1591]

My fear is, the LISK will get off without conviction. I am concerned for the victims, I wish he didn't leave.

[@WilliamLyons-ym7ee]

Helen - Heuermann will not get off. There’s too much evidence, and there is more forthcoming. The police know a lot more than the public. There was evidence in Heuermann’s house that we don’t know about. He’s murdered many more people than these three women he was charged with. The police are taking their time in charging him with more, because they want to get it right, so there’s no way the DNA can be disputed in court.

[@alexperkins8433]

@@helendeegan1591 zero chance he'll get off...wayyyy too much evidence...the electronic data alone would

[@kathys53]

Replay crew here--sorry I had to miss the live. Rodney Harrison AND John Ray--two classy guys.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Kathy!

[@cherylschumaker1366]

Why did Rodney Harrison step down and quite He was the led investigator in this case?

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

@@cherylschumaker1366 he was the lead investigator. He was the driving force and the leader behind the task force. Lots of strange things happening in Suffolk.

[@MarianMoloney]

I just love John Ray .God bless him 🙏 ❤

[@shannonericksen1291]

I love his shirt and bowtie. we need to raise money for JR

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I liked it too

[@missingstolenanimalsireland]

Another Fantastic show. No matter when John Ray is on your show Joe I make sure I'm there to watch. As always blessings from Ireland ☘️

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you for watching. More to come!

[@sherriwilson2407]

My God. I had to listen to this 2x. What a book this would make when this is all said and done. Great interview again.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was one one day

[@truecrimeLI]

It’s definitely worth listening to more than once.

[@truecrimejungle]

🔥🔥🔥

[@DeesCreativeHandsCrochet]

John Ray is Incredible! Be careful out there John❤

[@schatzie4477]

Mr Ray should have a "Go Fund Me" 💲page to fund his work on the LISK investigation + all other tangential crimes he uncovers.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

He has a foundation set up - I will be posting that information in the Community Tab soon - make sure you click the bell 🛎️ for notifications

[@LB-lt3pz]

YES!!! Better for that then one for poor Asa!!!! 🤮 Whoever donated to her is an idiot sorry.

[@truecrimeLI]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge Is it the Magdalene Dismas Society or another one?

[@AustinD1993]

One day there will be a movie made about John Ray and His relentless dedication to this case. ❤

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I can see that in the future

[@MsMarple]

I hope so.

[@BrennaGator]

Awesome interview as usual. Keep up the good work Joe & John. Don’t let the next administration think they can shut you down. We are all watching!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Brenna!

[@egaaronp]

...& in England

[@dedelovesbling2313]

Wow, this was a great show. John Ray is a class act and seems to truly care about victims. That is so rare these days. He deserves some help. I really hope some creators work at getting him donations for his not-for-profit so he can continue to help the oppressed victims.

[@dedelovesbling2313]

PS - Joe you are definitely a class act as well. You are going to go far as a YT creator. Keep up the great work.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you!

[@wishingb5859]

Thank you so much for continuing to interview him. So many sites discount him because of his colorful clothing and because sex workers have stories that are hard to believe. But he is getting somewhere. If only the next task force will complete the job.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for spending your time with us

[@Morticia1313]

I missed the live but I'm catching up now. I can only imagine how many women this evil psycho killed. Many he was reckless because he knew he had higher ups who would cover for him. We will probably never know the extent of all of his crimes. Pure evil. I always wondered why they seemed to give up so easily on Peter Hackett. Maybe he was protected also. Love listening to John Ray. His dedication is so admirable.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Morticia! I will pass along your comment John

[@Morticia1313]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge & not to leave you out Joe. I always watch but I usually miss the live. Thank you for bringing us this info. I live in Suffolk County so of course this is really interesting to me.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

@@Morticia1313 I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@runtheworld26.2]

Love John Ray!! He’s gracious, kind, smart and has a fabulous look.

[@barbaradixon3113]

John Ray is doing gods work. I'll be happy to donate $100. Evil Flourishes when good men and woman do nothing.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I’ll be posting that information under the Community Tab in a few days

[@HokieJuju]

Thank you for doing this interview. I really like John Ray, he’s got a beautiful & kind heart!!!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you for watching Julianne

[@amyemmert6350]

Heck yeah the FBI needs to get involved

[@MaryVegas007]

If I ever disappear hope Mr Ray will look for me 😂 Bless you and your family😊

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Let’s hope that is not necessary! Thanks for watching

[@carakao-young1485]

John Ray's big smile and sparkly eyes during the final 2-3 minutes of this video is nice to see. I hope it's in response to him feeling appreciated here in The Sarge's community/platform 💜

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Cara!

[@michaelwashington1585]

Keep digging John

[@postpunkmmma]

Thank you for keeping this in the news. ❤

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks postpunk for watching!

[@barbaradixon3113]

I know New Yorkers will insist on getting to the bottom of this crime and corruption. I have complete faith in New York.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Some are trying to-it’s a tough road

[@newfoundland042961]

I liked this man from the very first moment I first heard him speak. I hope he gets the acknowledgement and help he deserves.

[@juliewilson2628]

Great live Joe 👍👍,John Ray doing fantastic job ! RH is a monster and l have no doubt this is just the tip of an awful iceberg 😏👍

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Julie!

[@Withal_And]

WWE LOVE YOU JOHNNNN!!!!

[@GlamGam1964]

I’m not on the “Asa is an innocent bystander” bandwagon. She should be questioned and investigated.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

If she’s involved, I don’t see them leaving her alone

[@JonathanERubin]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge If she was involved, she would have been arrested, as Rex was.

[@teresaslo]

she seems like the type who would do anything she could to save her ass so she could be giving information@@JonathanERubin

[@cherylschumaker1366]

💯👍

[@susanwood914]

3 cheers for John Ray. The attitude after Mr Harrison leaves may be that they got their guy on 4 murders so why spend their limited time and financial resources on other murders and other crimes he committed against sex workers-especially if it includes exposing members of LE who participated in swinging, hiring sex workers or other bad acts, or whose negligence may have enabled Rex to go so long without getting caught.

[@pattypeters2686]

Sending lots of positive thoughts and well wishes to Mr Ray for his continued work and dedication. ❤

[@maryfagan5178]

Subscribed because i saw John Ray was on. He is a hero doing his part to bring justice to to victims.❤

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree. John has done more for the victims of LISK than law enforcement and the media.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you!

[@cindyfarrell7556]

John is so awesome. The families he represents are so lucky to have found this extraordinary attorney. Blessings, John, as you continue your hard work.

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree. He kept this case going when no one in the media or law enforcement cared.

[@user-hd8mm6sx5p]

The department should put John Ray on the payroll! Good work!

[@schatzie4477]

🤔 Fund raising idea 🤔 To defray Mr Ray's costs "Stalking the Stalker," offer polkadot tie as merch at symposium. And worn as a "Show of Support" for John's Herculean work for justice. 👔👔👔

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I will pass your ideas along

[@KarenLeeTLS]

I would like to know if Rex Heuermann met Gilgo Beach victim Amber Costello in the Charlotte, North Carolina area before she moved to New York. Amber lived in Charlotte and it is only about 30 minutes from Rex Heuermann's property in South Carolina.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I don’t know, I will ask John if he knows.

[@KarenLeeTLS]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge Thanks so much

[@truecrimeLI]

Great question.

[@BellaFinn]

That monster T-Rex 🦖 sister lived across from his family home as well ‼️John Ray is a man of truth & integrity god ☘️bless you 🙌

[@Withal_And]

It makes sense RH has done so much more than meets our eyes since hes acted so brazenly in some stories. Hes just used to getting away with it. I hope we will still get that 3 hour conference John said he would do this November about the info he has came into.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

It’s in December- the 8th I think he said. As I get the confirmation info, I will post it in under the Community tab - make sure you click on the bell 🛎️ for notifications

[@Withal_And]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSargeI see. Thanks for the heads up!

[@hopek59]

Johnny Ray is one marvelous man and a kind-hearted human being prayers for him & his family for protection and prosperity and great health😊❤

[@truecrimeLI]

Agree. John Ray has done more for this case than anyone.

[@Laura-fp6et]

Thank you for your podcast Joseph/ Stream. 😊 Thank you John Ray.😊

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you Laura for watching

[@schatzie4477]

Mr Ray should be offered a book deal for writing book named, "Stalking the Stalker."

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t a book someday on this

[@GypsyFlowerHippie66]

If I lived in New York...I would love to work with you John digging for evidence. I'm a detective at ❤ Impressed with all of your work, time, energy, blood, sweat, tears and ❤ that you've put into these cases and continue to do for these families and the victims John!!!!! It's nice to see somebody who truly cares!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

He could use the help!

[@truecrimeLI]

Every little bit helps.

[@truecrimeLI]

Amazing discussion. So much information packed into an hour. Looking forward to the Symposium in December.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@christinemilazzo7388]

We Love you John Ray

[@joannelaverack4269]

John Ray what a wonderful, wonderful man you are. You are a credit to your profession, the world is a much better place because of you. I wish you nothing but the best.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I will pass the message along. Thanks for watching Joanna

[@joannelaverack4269]

Thank you 😊

[@Toni-jq5mm]

Great live Joe as usual I am sorry to see the commissioner is resigning but he must have his reasons he is so devoted to his family and I admire him so much always love Johnny Ray on he is the sweetest God Bless both of you for your hard work 😇😇😇😇

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Toni!

[@ForestSageStyles]

Great new information you two! Thank you. Go history teacher.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks forestsafge for watching!

[@shannonbailey2988]

Thank you for your attention to this unfolding story! Wow, was the Church a part of this legacy?

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

That remains to be seen, but an angle we never heard about until now

[@Mmshroom]

46:33 💯 the fact that his wife was so focused on shifting their money immediately says a LOT to me.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I’m trying to wrap my head around that too

[@Mmshroom]

It is as offensive to victims as the Knee Jerk Go Fund Me. The family of victims can’t raise 60 grand but the accused’s wife does? It’s all strange. Great job on the interview!

[@truecrimeLI]

In general, she doesn’t come across as sympathetic.

[@BellaFinn]

Watching replay 🌻🫶🌻From Melbourne/Australia 🤍John Ray is a earth 🌏 Angel 🫶🌻🫶

[@ashysnow4155]

Replay crew❤ Thanks, Sarge and Mr. Ray!

[@calciofan10]

Brilliant conversation! Thank you both.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you!

[@MsMarple]

Besides loving your shirt and tie combo, Mr. Ray😊 I appreciate your keeping us grounded in reality by reminding everyone that the police are a bureaucracy and their nature in general. I would like to think that the time we had some ‘listening ears’ in high places (like Mr. Harrison) will be the leg-up needed to keep this moving forward. I am encouraged by the amount of info coming into your office. AND, what you say about other crimes out there, including murder makes complete sense to me. When you speak, I listen because there is the tone of truth. It is very interesting to hear more about his persona and trail of conduct. I believe a constant theme of revenge in a person is very important. It is cousin to stalking, which shows that ego and fantasy are out of control. We have a very public figure that is also obsessively vengeful and who is, I believe, very dangerous- and has proved it. Wishing the best to you and the Task Force going forward. 🙏🏻🤓🙏🏻

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks MsMarple. I will pass this along to John

[@WilliamLyons-ym7ee]

I see we have an Agatha Christie fan here 😊

[@gemma06010]

There wouldn’t be anyone more I would want in my corner than John Ray . There is much to say about his dedication to seeking truth and justice pursued with such compassion genuinity and humanity . Unfortunately he is a rare gem while there are not enough out there like him. I’m sure Shannan is shining a light down on him.💫

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching

[@frankhannon8001]

John ray i think you are doing a hell of a job 🎉please don’t stop 😮thank you!

[@egaaronp]

Thank you so much for the brilliant interview. I'm so glad the sharp dresser seems to be taken seriously now. - from England.

[@truecrimeLI]

Agreed.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it

[@felicia_in_TX]

Ain’t nobody can dress like JR!! love it! 🎀🦋💙And the episode was great too Joe, awesome guests you’re tearing it up 😊🔥

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Felicia!

[@smiley2477]

It definitely takes confidence to pull off some of his outfits lol. But confidence comes from within.

[@BUDDYLEEJUNIOR]

My jaw is on the ground, and it can't get up.... This "Heuerman Munster" story defies description. It keeps taking deeper and darker turns every day.

[@heidimorein3180]

Oh my! How does he reach into Philadelphia?!?? Holy sh--.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

John couldn’t elaborate, so we’ll have to wait and see

[@cathleenvanvorst6883]

John is wonderful! So thoughtful. So brillant! So logical. He reminds me of Rudy guliani😊

[@hillarymurphy5256]

Giuliani is as corrupt as they come?!

[@daveymcteer6804]

ooooh online tickets to the symposium would be awesome!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

He’s trying to get that together

[@Precosint]

Ughhh… I didn’t get the notification 🤦🏻‍♀️ glad to see you have John back. Thanks guys.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching! The replay crew is just as important!

[@christineakascorpgirl72]

Agreed enjoy you both always

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Christine!

[@WilliamLyons-ym7ee]

Let them ridicule Johnny Ray, but so far he’s been right. There’s a lot more evidence coming out about this case.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Sit back, I think it’s coming. Thanks for watching William

[@truecrimeLI]

Agreed. People only resort to name calling when they can't win the argument.

[@jacquiecollins9982]

Awesome interview thank you 🐻

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you Jackie Grizzly!

[@georgewashington3555]

thanks !!

[@wishingb5859]

If he has a connection with Peter Hackett, then this is so much bigger than Rex.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Yes, that all remains to be seen

[@truecrimeLI]

Time will tell. Waiting is the hardest part.

[@wishingb5859]

@@truecrimeLI Yes, I think we are getting spoiled by how fast cases are solved nowadays. Some of these old cases always felt delayed by red tape or incompetence or corruption. Those were always the most painful cases.

[@truecrimeLI]

@@wishingb5859 Agreed.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Thank you Gentlemen

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Louise

[@mandychadwick8762]

John Ray ❤ wonderful guy

[@jakey5630]

Great show tonight , just caught this on replay, oodles of information . Keep digging , justice for all .

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Jakey!

[@pattypeters2686]

#@ Thanks so much Joe for having Mr John Ray as a guest!! He's a wonderful person and very dedicated to this case, the victims, and most Long Islanders appreciate all he does 🙏

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks for watching Partty!

[@truecrimeLI]

John Ray is a legend on Long Island.

[@jrzygirl518]

Great show! I’m still not convinced RH’s not involved in Atlantic City with orange man IMO

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Officials have said there is no evidence he was involved in AC cases

[@pamspencer5377]

I was reading a survey on how people feel about the police force across this country. Over 70 % have no faith in that bureaucracy. I think the public will.start expecting change.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I still think they faired better than politicians and other professions

[@pamspencer5377]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge I come from maine. I think the public is beginning to speak up concerning bureaucracts and politicians. People are speaking up about corrution in many fields .About time. Change will not come easy. I am 74 I may not see it .But I have faith in the what the younger generation want for a different world then the one we the old have carelessly created.

[@GypsyFlowerHippie66]

Rex has spent time in Alaska on hunting trips. I did a little looking at records in Alaska and there appears to be a lot of missing woman in that state. 😳

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that before. Keep on searching!

[@GypsyFlowerHippie66]

One source that mentioned Alaska kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGS9f3edbr-fgLssi=AB9Rcx1xad52ctGU

[@shadza7x270]

Hey Joe, another great show. John is so committed and dedicated. Got to say your channel is now one of my favourites, keep on being you 😀

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thank you Shadza!

[@BellaFinn]

Live stream it please so we can help you John Ray & donate money to this case

[@GlamGam1964]

John is so interesting! I will try to donate. He’s doing good work!

[@kellycorbelle7988]

John Ray is, to me, a visionary who seeks truth while slogging through the vile refuse of humanity. He finds and advocates for the innocents, the victims of unbridled power. Just like Rodney Harrison, he knows that the cops, politicians, and the 'pillars of the community' are swimming in the same swill as Heureman. It would be an honor to help him.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

John has done a lot of good - I just don’t know where he’s headed with the Asa part

[@kellycorbelle7988]

​@JosephGiacalone, his heart is in the right place. I wonder if he could use transcription help. I'm a retired vet looking for a purpose.

[@leahvogelsimpson]

I love John, seems like a great guy. Great show Joseph

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

Thanks Leah!

[@user-my3wb8qb1c]

... if I may say so, this case is so big and very complex, the FBI ought to take over entirely!!! ... an proper cleaning up of Shanann tape would be a proper start and long overdue!!! John Ray has done a great job investigating these cases without any help, except Harrison, who is leaving now and who knows what will come afterwards!? FBI hopefully!!!

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

I believe there is already a federal nexus, but if a victim is identified in another state, then all bets are off and they take over. Thanks for watching!

[@user-my3wb8qb1c]

@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge Thank You!

[@genevievesiebes1756]

I❤John Ray

[@dlight2669]

I don't know if the hairs of Asa can be linked because Rex wrapping tape around something at house or in the car...Asa's hair would be at the house or in his car and could easily be picked up by the tape.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

More likely transfer evidence

[@debrabaron1909]

A monsignor filed for lower property tax because he claims Shannon Gilbert knocked on his door??. Correct me if Im wrong, but wasn't Shannon Gilbert still on her phone with 911 when she ran out of Joe's Brewers house? Did the 911 recording pick up her banging on his door? It was always reported Shannon G. knocked on Gus Colletti's door first.

[@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge]

She knocked on several doors - we will need more clarification on that