AUDI e-tron Sportback Review, better than a Tesla model X ?

[@JoeAchilles1]

Hope you enjoyed this alternative style video, please remember to let me know in the comment section below. Cheers for watching as always :-)

[@richardcorns8553]

Good to see you reviewing EV's now Joe. I have followed your channel from way back when you had your first m135i. This encouraged me to buy my first m135i followed by m140i the F80M3. I have now moved to a Tesla M3P which is fantastic to drive even after owning the above cars. Keep up the great work.

[@thumper1747]

Excellent review Joe, my daughter is considering a Sportback, although I have impressed on her that the real used value is the Wagon (as the Americans say). I’ve seen 2019 cars with 30k miles for sale below £20k and that’s all because of the reported poor range! It for those who do modest mileage, this is a fantastic option and rapid charging speed makes road trips doable. At 25% of the new price, this must be best used buy out there. Liked and subbed. 👍 Geoff

[@pqvid]

Hey Joe, great review! 👍 Regarding the "boredom" of charging - the main issue is that you only drive EVs for a short time. There needs to be a paradigm change. You don't go somewhere to "fill up" the battery. This is something you do with the ICE vehicle, because you ONLY can fill up at a gas station - and while you're at it anyways, why not fill up to full? With an EV, you just use the time and integrate the charging into your life. Go shopping - let it charge. Go for sports - let it charge. Go for a walk in the park - let it charge. You don't need to babysit the car all the time it's charging. You can do your own stuff during that time, and this limits the time for charging to just plugging in, which is only a few seconds. In my job, I need to travel a lot. A huge discovery to me was that if I drive through at a very high speed and come home earlier, I still have my emails and conference calls to do. But if I arrange it properly, I can do some emails and conf calls while charging - and when I arrive home, maybe one hour later than usual, but all my "closing the day" duties have already been done. So, effectively - no time loss at all! I could imagine that you as a KZbinr always have some video material to review and cut. If you do part of it from the nice interior of your car, with the AC working (no problem with that with an EV!) - then the same, you do your stuff while the car charges, no time loss! You need to spend a month or two with an EV I believe (looking back at my own experience), then you will learn to appreciate the good sides and how to get around the bad sides with no real disadvantage. And hey - you said charging at home without special equipment is dreadfully slow... But still, you're getting like 10 miles per hour from a standard socket? 100 miles worth of range overnight? Can your ICE car fill up 15 litres overnight, without you doing anything? 😜 We just became used to how the "ICE life" works. "I'm going to the gas station and will pick up this and that on my way" - sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing. You don't think about how "the car dictates your life" 😜 Just go buy one or lease for a long-term. You will love it! Trust me, I have both an M4 and a Model 3. And I actually prefer Tesla for the long trips, M4 is just a fun car by now...

[@alandavis2741]

Regarding running an ICE car.....who 'goes to the gas station'? It takes a couple of minutes to fuel up, gas stations are everywhere, and the pumps are always under cover out of the rain, so you just fill up during the journey, and the car does not dictate your life at all. With an EV the chargers are almost always NOT under cover, and even on a supercharger it's 30 minutes minimum out of your life and added to your journey. As more EVs hit the roads, queuing for a charger will be the norm, and charge rates will be throttled if a whole bank of chargers is in use at the same time. Yes, you can leave home with a full charge, but 200 miles later ( or less) you have all sorts of problems going on.

[@CybertuxSpain]

The best car I've ever driven. So I bought one. No regrets.

[@CybertuxSpain]

@@cstattin No, they will not.

[@funkymonkey1198]

Really? A better drive than the Jaguar ipace?

[@doorrob]

How’s it going now ? I’m over in Ireland and have a deposit down on a late 22 Sportback 55.

[@johnwallace520]

Totally agree on the touch screens - they are not safe and just smack of designers who never actually use the cars they design.

[@clivedeer6211]

Couldn't agree with you more Joe about the charging infrastructure. I live in a town of 56000 population and we have two public chargers, neither of which is working yet. I would love to own an EV but until the infrastructure is improved massively there's no chance.

[@realmobileincome9527]

Great vid, Those screens are too low down, same as other modern audis.. The bottom screen should be where the upper screen is, and upper screen should be higher up in the dash. Really annoys me every time I see this setup in Audis. The camera wing mirrors look like they might be snapped off easily by vandals.. Lack of interior noise seems amazing. I love ultra quiet cars.

[@kenthompson8448]

Nice real-world review. Thanks!

[@stephenlane9168]

Nice video Joe as always. Entertaining and informative buddy👌

[@Itsallagame1984]

Joe i have to say your latest videos have been outstanding.. I usually watch on the tv and hence don't / can't comment but ive logged onto the laptop to write this.. Keep up the great work.

[@drew9312]

Nice review- fully agree on the normal vs sportback choice.

[@RobinH8869]

Interesting video - you should name and shame the charger that was out of order - give them an incentive to improve the reliability which as you say is the key to uptake - Instavolt, BP Chargemaster and Shell all doing well in my experience and of course Tesla just off the scale and a big reason why their sales are so strong. Looking forward to the Audi e-tron GT when it arrives ......

[@johngoodall7097]

Joe yet another in depth video and an honest test of a quite expensive car. I expect like others who have not experienced an electric vehicle will appreciate the facts which you brought up mostly about the interior and practical uses or not easy to use. I agree about the door mirrors as all motorists are not equal and you need to be more aware now and you need as much of a view outside the car. Lovely car but I don`t like the fastback as the rear view is narrow. See you on the next one.

[@pjmoody]

Another great video Joe. Well done.

[@hamburgerman3958]

Great review as always Joe!

[@jr4ff3]

LOVE the pov shots. ;)

[@CovKid2K10]

CCFC. Love the content joe, keep it up

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thank you 🙌

[@danI43541]

Very gorgeous looking car! Shame it’s more expensive than an equivalent Q8! But if you wanna be the guy with the EV, this is a very very good one to have

Audi should have called it the vorspark edition.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Haha totally agree 😂👌

[@Mrbfgray]

Rain--dang you guys hog it all when we NEED it in California. :D

[@DeltaDubai03]

Another great video despite the rainy weather. I very much liked the forehead camera. It perfectly suits a multiple screen car such as this e-tron. However, please, do not use it to show details on the screens. It is too far/too small; the GoPro needs to be closer. Somehow, I am glad you did not enjoy the car. This channel remains a beacon for petrolheads, that is to say, engines using petrol, preferably straight 6, flat 6 or V8 😁

[@darrenrhoden6112]

I wonder how much it would be to replace those digital side mirrors when some idiot has hit them?

[@L1GHT119]

Great video nice attempt but £90,000 is hysterical ! Model Y for $51,000 is faster way more utility interior space ,and has more range. Model Y Performance will annihilate this in handling and light to light pulls. BUT if you don’t car and want a nice interior , grill rep and like cruising faster than most other SUV’s ... enjoy!

[@almac9203]

You aren't comparing apples with apples. That price is the loaded car not the base price before options. You can't compare the base price of one car with the top trim level loaded with extras price. Its base price with base or loaded with loaded. Plus this is not really competition with the model Y but closer to the Model X.

[@Streamlined955]

You forgot to point out that the Audi roof didn’t leak in rainy weather. With a Tesla, there’s a good chance you may have leaks in the either the roof or trunk.

[@scottfromengland2303]

It's a nice SUV mate 👍🏻 not my bag but I'm pretty sure it will appeal to some 😀 thx for showing us another car mate as I can probably speak for most in its your video's we watch more then some of the cars on show 😎

[@giorgosa]

Why in a review of an EV we need to see if Audi stated 0-60 is accurate (can't be way off for the average driver), and cannot see if the stated range is accurate? Also I don't care how much is 0-60 if in the same video I cannot learn the battery and the boot capacity...

[@Goshi89]

Love your videos. I would like to know what you think of the Model 3 Perf. I own one and really love it. Even coming out my former GT4. Next video ? 😇

[@richardcorns8553]

The Model 3 perf is an exceptional car. I came from a F80 M3 and I enjoy the Tesla so much more in the 12 months of ownership. With a home charger you save so much time refuelling compared to having to go to fill up every week in your own time. Went down to Lake Annecy and it was a doddle with the super charges. Covered 400 mile legs in around 5 and half hours which was going some. By the time we used the loo and bought food the car was ready to go before we could finish our lunch. Friends and family cannot believe the car even the petrol heads who hate evs. This car has shown them how evs should be done and this is only the beginning.

[@Pete-wk7pf]

Yes, I came off a Macan Turbo into a Model 3p and haven’t looked back (apart from dots in the rear view mirror!). Comparative running costs, inc insurance and no road fund licence in the UK, make this car a great option and no concerns over heavy duty servicing costs. Okay. Maybe build quality not up to Porsche standards but nothing like as bad as some Tesla haters would have you believe

[@ogloftus]

Pete 9009 believe me on a 2018 model x the Build quality was that bad but I think it’s improving gradually

[@Pete-wk7pf]

Oliver Loftus mine is late ‘19 and panels all fit and generally well put together- have had to have 2 rear light clusters replaced though following water ingress however....

[@audirs142]

Richard Corns Interesting comparison . Maybe the new Bmw M3 might tempt you back . Tesla’s are cool cars I just wouldn’t buy one cause they don’t look as good As German rivals . Im also a petrol head And the lack of sound is a big factor for me . Each to their own I suppose 👍🏻.

[@Shyted]

Based on the MMI reliability on my A5, I don’t trust the digital wing mirrors.

[@cstattin]

Dont trust them. They dosent work

[@Icecoldgaming-vlogs]

Can do review seat tarraco

[@daviddenley3512]

Nice car and I think 80% of the problems your experiencing is tech based. Trouble is in another 5 years everything will be tech based...by then you'll of had to be converted like it or not!

[@karene4990]

Great informative video joe, not my cup of tea but technology is very clever.

[@ess.400]

I wonder if they'll do an Ev R8 🤔

[@Wilkooo]

Joe, are you videos made for the UK viewers in the first place?

[@jen8639]

staggeringly expensive car for a paltry 200mi range which might be less in the real world.

[@almac9203]

Don't be fooled by the EPA figures. The Tesla figures are completely made up. Test any German EV and a Tesla in the real world and the actual difference is a lot closer. Go and watch any group test and you will see what I mean. Look at the Taycan vs model S and you will see a huge difference in range on paper but in real life the difference shrinks to practically nothing.

[@jen8639]

@@almac9203 I own a Model 3 long-range which is why I watch EV videos. On a full charge, I get about 320-330miles.

[@almac9203]

@@jen8639 you probably drive like a grandpa. Go and watch any group test reviews and the gap in range is a lot less than the EPA figures suggest. The German EVs normally exceed the EPA range and the Tesla underperforms them.

[@jen8639]

Al mac you sound a bit arsey and have an obvious bias so what’s the point. This car is about 70-90k with a 0-60 of 5 seconds and a crap range. If I drive mine fast I can still get 290 odd miles. There are no German evs that are even worth mentioning.

[@chrisp3330]

@Jen J you say there are no German evs worth mentioning? That depends what you want. I don’t like the Tesla interiors as I like a car to look like a car inside. I chose an ETron (not sport back) over a Tesla as I preferred the ride comfort and the cabin is just a nicer place to be in my opinion. Range isn’t the be all and end all. A lot of people go on about it but, let’s face it, what percentage of people actually average more than 200 miles a day driving? With a charger at home it’s enough for the majority of people. I’m not a Tesla hater, I think they have pushed other manufacturers to up their game, however a large percentage of people with Tesla’s seem to want to put down every other EV out there. Different people have different requirements. Mine is solid build quality and being in a nice cabin when I’m driving. Yes, Tesla may have the edge with tech, currently, but I still don’t think they can compete with build and interiors like the established manufacturers. Only my opinion, obviously.

[@johannes.f.r.]

No, I can't see why they've turned it into a sportback and I don't think I ever will. I kind of can admire the regular version, although it seems unnecessarily big as well, but not this, never.

[@brianiswrong]

A camera for a door mirror seems to be solving a problem that doesn't exists.🤯

[@Mrbfgray]

SOooo...is it better than the X?? ;-)

[@635cz]

Honestly, anything is better than a Tesla model X. Have driven one and it's a joke.

[@RealOrbit-Australia]

Ye ok

[@andrewlee5237]

I assume you will have to design a new style of Tee to meet demand from the EV fan boys!!!!

[@fetB]

its kinda sad how an established automaker does certain, important things wrong. Its like 90k and i can't get physical buttons for it? This obsession with screen only is madness

[@ogloftus]

Well I’d disagree. I doubt it. wouldn’t turn heads like a Model X

[@almac9203]

The model X is ugly. People turn away when it goes by or laugh at the panel gaps.

[@ogloftus]

Al mac I’ve not had anyone roll their eyes at it

[@jen8639]

Oliver Loftus don’t bother with him. Every one of his comments is some anti Tesla muppetry.

[@almac9203]

@@ogloftus does your Tesla turn heads? I don't think so. We have them as company cars and they don't turn heads as far as I can tell. Look like a minivan to me. The only semi interesting thing is the doors.

[@cstattin]

Payed by Audi?

[@JoeAchilles1]

Guessing you meant *paid 🤣 What a complete 🔔

[@andybird6102]

A lot of money for a virtue signalling toy and top model is touching Taycan money. That seems a no brainer Taycan all day

[@johnwallace520]

Having driven our i-Pace the length of the country recently and having had to queue waiting for a rapid charger to become free, if there is an increasing growth in electric vehicles, there MUST be an increase in the number of chargers. Fast chargers are anything but - they take 9 hours to charge the battery from flat which is totally useless for people travelling any distance: it charges at roughly 20 miles an hour. However rapid chargers work pretty well with a charge rate of about 130 miles in 45 minutes. The only chargers that should be fitted from now on are the rapid ones and someone in power needs to force the installation of many many more. Being stuck in a motorway service station for 2 or 3 hours waiting for a rapid charger to come free before getting the restricted 45 minute charge is not acceptable when that charge will only take you 2 hours down the road to do the same again. However to add a positive note, the i-Pace is fantastic for every day use, charging from home. It is pretty well built, has an exceptional ride quality, defies the laws of physics in the way it corners and leaves almost everything for dead in acceleration. There is a lot to smile about.

[@jasonsfraser]

Joe Walker .....great comment Joe, and mirrors an EV vs hybrid review I watched on Harry’s Garage. His verdict after owning an ipace for a year was that the infrastructure is not there and he felt tethered to his house ....charging away from home involved detours and long waits.....although he did say that Tesla was an exception as it has a solid charging infrastructure

[@74amills]

I'm sure it's lovely but too much tech.

[@Tomoyo0827]

Hard to imagine etron being the best selling suv in Europe here in Australia....we are seriously undeveloped

[@CaliSteve169]

So much money for an EV that can maybe go 200 miles on a single charge? The model X has a range of 350 miles for the same price.

[@almac9203]

That is garbage. When they test a german EV with a Tesla the difference in range is a lot less than the EPA figures suggest. Go and watch any group test and you will see what I mean. The Tesla optimised everything to beat the EPA test whereas the Germans dont. Look at a Taycan versus a Model S on paper and look at it in real life and you will find the Tesla can't get close to the range whereas the Porsche easily exceed the EPA range. Tesla are so overrated it's not funny.

[@CaliSteve169]

@@almac9203 Model S performance has an EPA range of about 350 miles. The Taycan Turbo S is slightly faster than the Tesla, costs north of 150K and has a range of about 200 miles. Needless to say, the Porsche is out of reach for 95% of the population and as of right now, is a limited production vehicle. As far as the accuracy of the range figures- I can't speak for the model S, but I did get to drive a model 3 performance for a week and the range seemed to match the official numbers. I will agree that the Europeans still have the build quality upper hand, but Tesla is a new company and is improving. Next week, they will likely reveal their new gen batteries- most likely cheaper and lighter. Love them or hate them- they are the leader right now and it doesn't look like anyone is catching up.

[@jen8639]

Al mac Is it your life mission to just bash Tesla’s in every comment you make? No offence but you sound like you’ve never driven one.

[@almac9203]

@@jen8639 don't be so defensive. I note you didn't have a go at the original poster for bringing up the fantasy range figures when it's well known the real world differences are much less. Have you any experience in the real world range of German EVs? Even famous KZbin Tesla channels have confirmed the fact that the real world German EVs get far closer to the Tesla range than the EPA figures suggest.

[@almac9203]

@@CaliSteve169 forget the fantasy EPA nonsense and look at real world range. Car and Driver did a comparison and found the nearly 150 mile on paper range difference dropped to 11 miles in testing and Bjorn the famous KZbin Tesla fanboy confirmed the Taycan far exceeded the EPA range. He got 580 kilometers out of a Taycan 4s. Real world tests have confirmed the EPA figure for the Taycan are fantasy. Every time a publication tests the Taycan or Etron and compares it to a Tesla the real world difference in range shrinks dramatically. Either Tesla is gaming the system or the Germans are ultra conservative. Seems odd that a 150 mile advantage shrinks to 11 miles in real life. Ignore on paper range and performance figures and run the cars side by side or back to back to truly test the cars. Tesla fanboys kept saying wait until the new cheetah update and we will see but once again the on paper performance didn't translate to real world as the Taycan consistently beats the Tesla.

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

LOL, my wife totally trusts and loves reversing cameras, and hasn't hit anything, but I'm old school and look over my shoulder, which really bothers her ("Why do you do this? What is wrong with your brain? It's unnecessary!). Sorry!

[@egispetronis7290]

not practical electric cars over price to match trouble for travel outside city think still need wait 5yers for improvements

[@jasonsfraser]

Priced like a Q8 Vorsprung, with the trim level of a Q3 and a third of the range...ummm, no thanks!

[@lifestyle4dividends776]

Nah it isn't ;) sorry 🤫😂

[@arnospecht115]

Ugly car