Audi RS4 Quattro VS Tesla Model 3 Performance AWD - What's BEST on snow? ❄️

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5 ай бұрын

The Audi RS4 Quattro is one of the ultimate cars in snow, but can the best of the EV world, the Tesla Model 3 Performance shake up the order?
In theory, the electric vehicle should have the advantage as the electric motors of the tesla can react much faster than the mechanical AWD system of the Audi, but the RS4 has been developed in the worlds most extreme situations, the snow rallying of World Rally Championship.
The acceleration will be testing on snow and ice to see which is faster in a drag race, and hill climb and snow handling / lap times will also be tested to see which is best overall!
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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 ай бұрын
Just to clarify, for "systems off" in the Tesla it was set to track mode with stability assist set to -10 (lowest setting) and regen set to 25%. For traction the FR balance was 50/50 and for handling I found 65/35 the fastest. Disclaimer, this was shot nearly 2 years ago so and it was a rental vehicle so no idea how up to date the software was. There might have been a software update since then, but I found the same at the start of this year.
@BrKnOblivion
@BrKnOblivion 5 ай бұрын
Well that makes the 'first gen vehicle' comment a little more appropriate, but even then it was like 3rd or 4th gen, if you can even measure teslas like that.
@andrewskaterrr
@andrewskaterrr 5 ай бұрын
2 years ago?!?! Why wait so long?
@Cogan1
@Cogan1 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't you have selected "Slip mode" for the snow driving in the Tesla? As this shuts down the TC completely? At least it does on the RWD and Long Range models
@reinhardcremer7192
@reinhardcremer7192 5 ай бұрын
Now this isn't very scientific, but for what it's worth - when I got my M3 3 years ago it felt more like a rear wheel driven car, over-steering and fun. Now it feels more like a front wheel drive care sliding over the front wheels when turning on snow. I can however also relate to the inconsistency you mention. Just when I think this is how it behaves, it changes and is fun for a sec. I wish I had more control and could pick the software version in the car, so it matches my prefs.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 ай бұрын
I didn't extensively test slip mode as we only had a day to test and film however track mode does allow slip and it overrides slip mode. The internet implies that slip mode allows some slip (not total freedom) and disables at a certain speed. I'm sure there's been plenty of updates since filming this. 2 years - we do winter testing in Jan - March and I didn't have time to finish the edit for last winter, so I saved it for this winter.
@niko7090
@niko7090 5 ай бұрын
I think there is a good reason why EV cars doesn’t allow to fully turn off TC even in their performance versions, because EV has so much instant power/torq you have to be super precise with acceleration pedal and also it’s very hard to control wheelspin and powerslides without gearbox.
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you'll never be able to fully turn off TC because, as you say, torque. People would be in ditches/trees/bus stops and even those with some self control, imagination and skill would be moaning tyres only last one day.
@patrickf2386
@patrickf2386 5 ай бұрын
@@thebrowns5337 It's not really torque but weight in my opinion. Torque is torque, whether it comes from an ICE or an electric motor doesn't matter. And in theory, the "throttle" in an EV should actually be much more controllable, because it's immediate. I drive a RWD combustion engine car with 700 Nm atm and it will happily go sideways at 1/3 of the throttle already, but it's super easy to control. Difference is, the car weighs 500-700kg less than any EV.
@dadthelad
@dadthelad 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, and? Don't want their overbearing nanny control freakiness. Give us full slider control of systems on/off from 100% to 0%, and then I might consider buying one. Until then, combustion still rules the roads if you want to drive hard and fast around corners. RS4 is pretty much my dream car, what a beast, and it fits all your stuff, people, and surfboards. Sick as.
@Nordlicht05
@Nordlicht05 5 ай бұрын
​​@@patrickf2386yep. I compare this with a corvette wich I drove. On wet roads without any tc it spun the wheels on low revs instantly. Not much difference to an EV. I don't want to compare wich cars are faster than a corvette an cheaper to set it clear 😅
@15bit62
@15bit62 5 ай бұрын
It's not just the immediate torque. It's also that the front and rear motors are physically uncoupled. Without the software to control, the front-rear bias is whatever the motors intrinsically have, and there is no centre differential to control wheelspin at one end. The two ends of the car are essentially independent.
@quattroTorsen
@quattroTorsen 5 ай бұрын
Super interesting comparison for us tire and drivetrain obsessed people👍 love the focus on keeping it unbiased and using the same tires😁
@grumpyoldefarte5430
@grumpyoldefarte5430 5 ай бұрын
The tesla being heavier will chew up tyres more quickly... (costing more) proven. The tesla will chew up brake pads quicker and create more poisonous polluting particle dust.. (costing more) proven. Therefore - buy the Tesla!!!
@rodrigosarcinelli
@rodrigosarcinelli 5 ай бұрын
Definitely not unbiased… and I understand his preference for the RS4 … that sound is awesome
@nster3
@nster3 5 ай бұрын
Loved seeing snow traction on vs sport vs off! It gives us mortals an idea of how it might work for us. Keep it up with winter tire content, would love to see impact of tire width and more EV content, notably the BMWs. My BMW i3s has 155 19" tire/wheel set for winter and 195 20" summer set. Being RWD, my rear tires get chewed up SO FAST, by far the most expensive part of driving my car is tires every couple of years!
@Stilo95
@Stilo95 5 ай бұрын
Buy a proper BMW.
@B2C2007
@B2C2007 5 ай бұрын
Love these reviews. So much info to process and not dumbed down in its description of feel and technique.
@RayTheFPSGamer
@RayTheFPSGamer 5 ай бұрын
The RS4 sounds lovely
@Olppa
@Olppa 5 ай бұрын
It's just fake engine noise from speakers
@THjorth
@THjorth 5 ай бұрын
​@@Olppaexcept it isn't 😂
@benupde1979
@benupde1979 5 ай бұрын
I love my 2018 RS4. Same basic car minus the facelift. I turned my soundaktor off and can confirm, it’s the car sounding like this, not speakers.
@xIcarus227
@xIcarus227 5 ай бұрын
@@THjorth the RS4 definitely has fake noise coming from the speakers.
@JAM_2024
@JAM_2024 5 ай бұрын
The fake noise sounds stupid
@Apemania69
@Apemania69 5 ай бұрын
Love my audi s3 and my model 3 both in the snow. What i learned is that the tesla just goes no matter how steep the hill is with snow. It just keeps pushing. What i love about the audi is as you said the predictability of how the car does arround corners. From a safety standpoint tesla wins it hands down From a funfactor i give it to the audi 😉 That summs up my experience as a swiss who regularly drive in the mountains
@viktorvozniak7605
@viktorvozniak7605 5 ай бұрын
Genau 👍
@pure_awareness
@pure_awareness 3 ай бұрын
Does the performance of the T3 drain as the charge drains ?
@namp007
@namp007 2 ай бұрын
​@@pure_awarenessunfortunately yes, not lineary (difference between 100% and 70% is very hard to tell, but diff between 60% and 30% is big)
@pure_awareness
@pure_awareness 2 ай бұрын
@@namp007 ok thanks.
@Z-u-m-a
@Z-u-m-a 5 ай бұрын
Great test. Great place to do it too - that slope could be really illustrative in comparing different tyres (makes, winter vs 4S/AS) and drive systems (2/4) .
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 ай бұрын
Incredible video mate, Lou and I loved it ♥
@robertantoncic7610
@robertantoncic7610 5 ай бұрын
Dream test conditions💪💪💪 Driving on a track like that is a game and life changing experience as even on very moderate speeds gives you loads of adrenaline and ideas about how the car would behave on some extremely high speeds which will not be safe on the regular track and particularly not on the regular road. Perfect execution and great filming💯💥🔥
@witreks
@witreks 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always and thank you for making this content (tyre reviews/comparisons), these videos helped me decide on tyres and have confidence I'm driving my family on safest tyres possible. (but when alone also knowing that when I push the car out of grip it's because of me, not the tyres. :) But something completely off topic, looking at this thumbnail is the first time it struck me how big the model 3 actually is. It looks so small on its own but it's the same size as an A4, never noticed that.
@teovm
@teovm 5 ай бұрын
No questions, just pure fun watching this. Amazing! Keep up the good work.
@t3dd18
@t3dd18 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video, I don't think I have ever seen you with a bigger smile while doing a test, ever :D. I am happy you enjoyed the Torsen in snow!
@tafl-9198
@tafl-9198 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video 👍 Would also be interesting to see some EV RWD testing in same conditions.
@dirkdee9751
@dirkdee9751 5 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video! Thank you!
@webomatic44
@webomatic44 5 ай бұрын
I'm very pleased that you are rolling on the P Zero Winters. There's almost no information or reviews out there on this tire. I almost throw them on my Audi this year, but I'm still waiting to see either more reviews or more tests from those using them daily.
@VincentDP
@VincentDP 5 ай бұрын
Woohoo!! What a great, fun video! Well done.
@pauledwards1157
@pauledwards1157 5 ай бұрын
I own an S5 and the car is absolutely amazing in the snow with Blizzaks. Without a doubt, the best, most confident feel of any car I’ve ever driven with snow tires. What surprises me is how good it is in the snow even with the summer tires.
@tudorwynphillips6458
@tudorwynphillips6458 5 ай бұрын
Great video, many thanks
@justdriveit7434
@justdriveit7434 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!!Congrats!!!
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 5 ай бұрын
Loved this! Looked so much fun.Two great cars, even if the Tesla is a bit sterile (altough most drivers need the car to look after them on snow/ice more than they care to admit).
@mrstarlord
@mrstarlord 5 ай бұрын
Do more comparisons like this please! ❤
@mikemarshall9470
@mikemarshall9470 3 ай бұрын
Finally......a test that eliminates the tire variable!
@thegzak
@thegzak 5 ай бұрын
Great test!
@DaveNZQueenstown
@DaveNZQueenstown 5 ай бұрын
Very nice review, keep going (drifting).
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 ай бұрын
I'm from Florida, never seen snow, and found this to be really interesting. Something that will also be interesting is based on the new Cybertruck, and according to the Hagerty video on it, that it's now all steer-by-wire. That will certainly come to the other models soon, and it means they'll be able to really dial in steering however you want it, beyond just making it heavier. Just think in a few years that you'll be able to buy performance tires, then download profiles for those tires based on the conditions, and how you want to drive. That could be amazing, and here much sooner than you might think.
@chiboreache
@chiboreache 5 ай бұрын
truck is pure useless rubbish, it would perform much worse than 3
@Gilbertus64
@Gilbertus64 5 ай бұрын
@@chiboreachehow would you know ? Are you working at Tesla ?
@chiboreache
@chiboreache 5 ай бұрын
@@Gilbertus64 i'm just not mirricas🤷‍♂ i have brain in my head, instead of wind of the freedom🦅
@giacomu1
@giacomu1 5 ай бұрын
Murican freedom saved your a.. in ww2, and today Russians eat dirt in Ukraine using (mostly)US ammunition because EU is the " virgin girl" who wants to get married to a rapist from Russia and live a easy life using Russian oil and gas.
@Killyang
@Killyang 5 ай бұрын
That’s actually a really smart comment. The idea of downloading a specific steering profile based on current tires and road surface sounds insane but it’s probably just a couple of years away.
@mmd8074
@mmd8074 5 ай бұрын
Great Test 👍
@michalmusil6611
@michalmusil6611 5 ай бұрын
nice comparison, appreciate giving both same tires! after all, how would you compare this torsen based Quattro with Quattro ultra? where it differentiates?
@user-fy2qq2ih4d
@user-fy2qq2ih4d 5 ай бұрын
A bit unexpected video, but it's great, thank You.
@ae7459
@ae7459 5 ай бұрын
Super fun to watch comparison. Hats off to Tesla for a far they have come, but nice to see Ingolstadt still be the champ at its own game.
@furieux6742
@furieux6742 5 ай бұрын
Because weight...
@rodrigosarcinelli
@rodrigosarcinelli 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, they kinda made it still win 😅
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 5 ай бұрын
tesla hasnt come really far lol!!!! traction control systems have existed for decades and had been dveloped by mercedes and BOSCH, i think some audi have a locking diff on their awd system
@THExKINGxKINGx
@THExKINGxKINGx 5 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qvshut up kid 🤡
@Jonas-xy8ir
@Jonas-xy8ir 5 ай бұрын
​@furieux6742 I live In Canada and when there are ice and snow outside we put some bricks in our cars for better traction More weight is better
@numero_nero8621
@numero_nero8621 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been driving a B9.5 RS4 on winter tyres for a couple of weeks and am genuinely surprised by how modern winter tyres can handle the car’s 600Nm torque on cold but not yet icy tarmac (Pilot Alpin 4 275/30R20). I can send the car flat out from cruising around 50-60mph without making the tyres squeal. If they didn’t make whining noise at low speed passengers won’t know it’s on winter tyres. Amazing. It’s great to know they’re going to perform this good on the snow too.
@florian_montuzet
@florian_montuzet 5 ай бұрын
Loved it !
@aluminumfalcon552
@aluminumfalcon552 5 ай бұрын
Those fenders on the Audi bring back memories of the Quattro rally car, looks so cool!
@XeclipseXZ
@XeclipseXZ 5 ай бұрын
Superb video! I have an A5 45tfsi Quattro fitted with 19” Continental DWS06 Plus but was wondering if I should buy a dedicated winter tire. Can you do a comparison of P Zero Winter vs P Zero All weather/season or DWS06 Plus?
@jamest5149
@jamest5149 5 ай бұрын
As a RS6 owner entering winter, this made me so happy 😇
@CONNNE
@CONNNE 5 ай бұрын
quattro is just built different. I've seen a 3.0 diesel quattro pulling a bus out of snow few years ago
@arekb5951
@arekb5951 5 ай бұрын
​@@CONNNEprobably the bus didn't need much to get pulled out, quattro is not magic, many modern drivetrains can spin all four wheels at once especially on snow, so it's down to the tyres and amount of traction they have. Quattro won't magically increase grip of the tyres that are on the car. Main torsen quattro advantages compared to clutch based AWD systems are robustness and predictability on moderate/low grip surfaces.
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 5 ай бұрын
People forget it's all down to tyres. The best system in the world is still running on four small patches of plastic (tyres are not really rubber these days) on a very slippy surface. The worst thing is some drivers think their 4x4/all wheel drive/quattro etc makes their car better all round on snow and ice - in terms of braking it makes no difference. So they barrel towards a corner or back of a queue and end up in trouble.
@PatG-xd8qn
@PatG-xd8qn 5 ай бұрын
​@@thebrowns5337Exactly. I live in the second snowiest city in Canada (Saguenay) and most cars I see in ditches in winter are AWD SUVs. That's because AWD might help the car to accelerate faster on snow, but it doesn't help to steer nor to brake. The higher speed those people are going increases their risks of crashing
@GaborBekkerbboytr1ck2g
@GaborBekkerbboytr1ck2g 5 ай бұрын
@@arekb5951watch some videos.. and learn more about quattro
@jm9371
@jm9371 5 ай бұрын
There is not a lot of 4K footage on KZbin... Top drawer video!
@fist003
@fist003 5 ай бұрын
reallly interesting test
@CED99
@CED99 5 ай бұрын
I like the world where 220kg is "a few kilos"
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 2 ай бұрын
I noticed that too. When he said a few kilos I specifically looked at the weights and was like….wait…😉
@JRCarReviews
@JRCarReviews 5 ай бұрын
Pleas do dedicated EV summer tires test on Model 3 LR, curious about Michelin E-Primacy vs Hankook E-On EVO 18” stock wheels performance.
@BackToWar100
@BackToWar100 5 ай бұрын
I really want to see a real Quattro Audi from the 90's or 80's to see the difference .
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 ай бұрын
There were a few systems in 80s. In 90s to.
@vit.c.195
@vit.c.195 2 ай бұрын
No you dont... because torsen was 1WD drive and you will never guess which one.
@tarzaan2603
@tarzaan2603 5 ай бұрын
Wow this guy can drive!! Im impressed!
@aho4fun
@aho4fun 5 ай бұрын
For best all wheel drive u need to test 2018+ subaru wrx sti with DCCD control, u can adjust what u need to be quick :) with active vectoring , helical-type limited-slip front differential and TORSEN limited-slip rear differential...it's proper snow machine... can u test also the same tyre in different rim sizes with one car, because test show some wierd differences .
@alpenfoxvideo7255
@alpenfoxvideo7255 5 ай бұрын
So is this tire actually good for real world alps driving where most of the time it's just wet? I have Continentals on and i'm not really happy, also i did torn off some pieces of thread doing accelerations
@karlo8570
@karlo8570 5 ай бұрын
great review as usual! 👍👍 Just wanted to add that quattro ultra (first appeared with a4 b9 allroad 2.0 ) isnt the same thing as haldex (uses hydraulic clutch at the rear wheels). All audis (a3,a1,q2,q3.) that has latitudinally mounted engine uses haldex and all models of vw that has 4motion. haldex more of an FWD usually engages when there is a slip detected. Ultra is more engaged systems and depending on which drive mode you are in... i.e in practice it will disengage rear diff with "ultra clutch" (sets of wet clutch plates, at the back of transmision) on straight highway speeds with normal conditions, when there's no need to drive whole driveline and sets of gears like torsen quattro to reduce friction and losses - ergo more fuel consumption. Todays quattros are more of an emblem thing as you know. there is bunch of videos and study explanation on yt btw your tests are mandatory in my opinion! 💪
@glisse499
@glisse499 5 ай бұрын
Minor correction - neither the current RS3 or Golf Type R use a Haldex system. Audi currently have 4 different quattro systems in use for their ICE vehicles, so not sure what you meant by the emblem thing. Not a great surprise that Jonathan likes the rear biased self-locking centre diff version, it suits his driving style 😂
@ego4551
@ego4551 5 ай бұрын
Small correction, The quattro in the B9 was quattro with ultra technology and not quattro ultra. They are different systems.
@karlo8570
@karlo8570 5 ай бұрын
Yes the latest RS3 uses RS torque splitter, when you look at SSP it looks like there is two of "ultra clutch"/awd clutch on each drive shaft in the rear :D but i didnt mention RS models ;) Didnt mean in negative context, but more in the way that nowadays there is a couple of quattro versions (better or slightly less better variants) with pros and cons in setup with same emblem that real audi connoisseur will recognize :D PS didn't dive to deep into RS3 tqsp quattro, but seems like way to go 😬 @@glisse499
@karlo8570
@karlo8570 5 ай бұрын
btw what do you mean with "they are different system"? there is no two versions of "ultra" it is quattro with ultra technology like you said or commomly used way of saying the same thing "quattro ultra" ;)@@ego4551
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 ай бұрын
​@@karlo8570The difference between quattro ultra and haldex is only the driveshaft disconnection. Torque transfer is basically the same, actually haldex is even more active as it's never entirely open.
@isaacclaxton4913
@isaacclaxton4913 5 ай бұрын
GoodMorning & GoodEvening can you please do that same test With R5 Nokian please just to get a full understanding and Quality test if those tires please
@PlamenMitev
@PlamenMitev 5 ай бұрын
Would you be so kind to make a video about tyres for hybrid cars? Summer tyres, winter tyres and my favourite All-season tyres. Many thanks.
@romantsyganov427
@romantsyganov427 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see a extreme winter tire review specifically Michelin Xice vs Bridgestone blizzak dmv-2 on ice and snow
@Sbenjamin1781
@Sbenjamin1781 5 ай бұрын
Great video, i personally wouldn't want a electric car for winter driving just based on the battery performance/reliability in freezing temperatures.. That being said this same test between the Tesla Model 3P Vs Audi E-Tron GT would be a great idea for video..
@MOTLUFC
@MOTLUFC 5 ай бұрын
This is funny Jon reminds me of the m3 vs the mr2 !
@BarryMakariou
@BarryMakariou 5 ай бұрын
I have the MYP the traction control is much better than my previous Macan GTS but you can really feel the rear weight bias in icy conditions very scary!
@eliaswarg6818
@eliaswarg6818 2 ай бұрын
The fact that you even compare these two vehicles is a HUGE win for Tesla
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
A good way of looking at it
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video. I love to see a similar test with similar weight and tires 4WD (in 4H or center diff lock) vs AWD. Love to see someone else test what O'Neil Rally School tested sometime back. Can 4WD still keep up with newer AWD on winter braking, may be prooving O'Neil Rally School wrong. I quote O'Neil Rally School "When you're in 4WD, the front and rear axles are mechanically linked by the driveshafts and transfer case. The front and rear will turn at the same speed, regardless of whether you're on the gas, coasting, or on the brakes. Your brakes send 70% pressure to the front and 30% to the rear, but in 4WD the front and rear axles are connected so you end up with 50-50 brakes front and rear. This is much better on snow and ice."
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 ай бұрын
What cars could I use. RW4 / M3 X-Drive for sure, but what's similar with a proper AWD system
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 5 ай бұрын
@@tyrereviews I think something like Ford Bronco v6 part time 4WD vs Mazda CX9 inline 6 AWD would be a close match, both weighing around 4500lbs. Both rear wheel biased, Mazda send power to front and Bronco in 4H will have 50:50 split. Maybe can use 265/60R18 vs 265/70R17 tires on CX9 and Bronco Or Toyota Highlander Limited AWD vs 4Runner Limited 4WD. Both around 4500lbs and both can have 245/55R19 vs 245/60R20 tires. But Highlander is frond wheel biased vs 4Runner Limited is rear wheel biased, but when center diff locked it is 50:50 like a part time 4wd in 4H. Just some suggestions as a viewer, not an expert like you sir.
@TC-V8
@TC-V8 5 ай бұрын
Full size landrovers/Rangerover/Defended/Discovery are AWD and also can be locked 4WD and also can have mechanical locking rear dif.
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 5 ай бұрын
@@TC-V8 they are not AWD right? Fulltime 4WD with a mechanical center diff, always connected vs electromagnetic clutch or viscous coupling AWD vehicles have.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 ай бұрын
@@LionRunner thanks! I'll look into them further:)
@Vnfx
@Vnfx 5 ай бұрын
Great driving skill my friend
@Rone-w
@Rone-w 5 ай бұрын
It was some time ago so unsure if it was an option but the tesla does have "slip-start" option (not in track mode) which could have made difference also
@evol3852
@evol3852 5 ай бұрын
To Audi: Give this man only Torsen models so that he can use them more often in his videos.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 2 ай бұрын
Yes, he should never use haldex to represent Quattro. If using haldex just use a VW so as not to muddy the waters.
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 5 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on how this comparison might have gone if you did the same tests with the Nokian Hakka R5? Would that make it a little closer to dry asphalt, so advantage to the Tesla? Or would it just enhance the Audi's ability to take advantage of wheel slip?
@doggavatar4555
@doggavatar4555 5 ай бұрын
Majority of the time, in real life situations, Audi will gets smashed by the M3P. Especially with winter tires and having fraction control on. It probably costs half the price or even less in Finland too due to stupid car tax, yes?
@mountainrunner1955
@mountainrunner1955 5 ай бұрын
Hi...interesting comparison. Can you do a similar comparison with an in-wheel drive? like a BMW with elapse motors or probably the new NEVS [Emily] (ex Saab factory in Trollhättan) with the Protean engines. the must be fantastic in winter conditions.
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 5 ай бұрын
It would be really interesting to see the comparison between an older Torsen Audi and a newer Haldex Audi. My gut feeling is the full time Torsen will perform better than the "lock the clutch up when it slips" Haldex but I've been wrong before!
@walthefl
@walthefl 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t heldex only on the small Audis with the transversely mounted engine (like a3 or q3)?
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 ай бұрын
There are at least "Ultra Quattro" A4s that have Haldex 4WD system. But I think they are only the 4cyl models, not RS with 6cyl.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 ай бұрын
​@@rkan2Quattro ultra is not haldex. Both are using clutch packs to power rear wheels but they are different systems.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 ай бұрын
​@@waltheflSmall models and 2nd gen of R8.
@GregVannetelbosch
@GregVannetelbosch 5 ай бұрын
Can you please share tyres size + specifications for Tesla
@olabondesson4902
@olabondesson4902 5 ай бұрын
I would like this test done with Nordic winter tyres. As a Swede, it looked like the tyres are quite bad for snow/ice compared to what we use up here.
@ogi-wankenobi3638
@ogi-wankenobi3638 5 ай бұрын
lol
@huseyinakyol48
@huseyinakyol48 5 ай бұрын
Quattro power 💪
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 5 ай бұрын
One question, do you use trackmode on the Tesla
@Lbeastieboy
@Lbeastieboy Ай бұрын
What are the rims on the Audi please? Looks really good.
@busslayer4790
@busslayer4790 5 ай бұрын
Even with a lot of modern IC cars, the electronic nanny systems really kill any kind of fun in the snow. I guess they help people who are just trying to get where the are going, but they make aggressive driving frustratingly unpredictable.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 ай бұрын
Which is why I'm thankful you can still turn them off in the RS4 instead of pulling an abs fuse
@iain8837
@iain8837 5 ай бұрын
99% of people will drive in these conditions with all systems on, Tesla wins in that situation.
@Manakuski
@Manakuski 5 ай бұрын
Which is why even a regular BMW 3-series is fun on snow, because even in the G20 you can turn DSC off and it is fun.
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 5 ай бұрын
@@iain8837 but those 99% of people will just get a regular A4 Avant or LR Tesla, not a performance version
@swishyfeet
@swishyfeet 5 ай бұрын
@@harryspeakup8452 In real life we don't have a prepped road or fluffy snow banks, we have curbs and traffic
@stalfan74
@stalfan74 5 ай бұрын
Hello, Why You don't do P0 WINTER test for tyre? You always missed them.
@liimatankari
@liimatankari 5 ай бұрын
Did you test with slip mode? I think that is made for slippery weather.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 5 ай бұрын
Do bear in mind that power balance slider in track mode is only for when steering lock is applied (I don't have the data for the point at which it's active). When the wheel is straight it's Tesla default (same as 50:50 on slider)
@MJorgy5
@MJorgy5 5 ай бұрын
Curious if an Audi sedan (saloon) would widen the gap in lap times vs. the estate? Genius pairing of vehicles for this test.
@za_2050
@za_2050 3 ай бұрын
I’m just curious to know can you do an Audi vs Subaru similar powered and type of car lol. I really wanna know
@CryptoNut82
@CryptoNut82 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff, should have had Tesla in track mode for system off drag that way you can turn all TC systems off as they are always in
@Alicia-lk9mq
@Alicia-lk9mq 5 ай бұрын
Beatiful Audi!
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo 5 ай бұрын
Hakkapelitta R3 vs R5? And Hakkapelitta 9 vs 10? What you you think about those and why?
@quikgt
@quikgt 5 ай бұрын
As a 60 + person who grew up drifting everywhere, I approve this video!
@LemonnomeL
@LemonnomeL 5 ай бұрын
thank you for conducting such a test, I made sure of my own choice, it's nice 🤝🇺🇦💪
@sszhao11
@sszhao11 5 ай бұрын
I installed a APR throttle controller. It is the best thing for traction management. In low grip surfaces. You need slower rate increase speed. Not a sudden increase in torque that breaks traction. Throttle controller can slowly smoothly apply small increase throttle. (Adjustable) That does not break the traction. I set acceleration slope 50% for rain and 30% for snow. And can essentially apply perceived full throttle and let the controller slowly ramp up speed
@user-rs1fo2dd9b
@user-rs1fo2dd9b 3 ай бұрын
whos APR? they make aftermarket tesla components?
@camperhonsa8633
@camperhonsa8633 5 ай бұрын
The more I watch good drivers like yourself, the more i realize how much I suck at driving😂Good video though
@dannyn3371
@dannyn3371 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the name of the wheels on the Tesla Model 3?
@Huttify
@Huttify 5 ай бұрын
Kudos for using the same tyres on the cars. It is alarming for how many testers that does not understand the importance of this.
@rrshse6704
@rrshse6704 5 ай бұрын
If you thought the RS4 AWD system is impressive, you should try and see what an Audi E-TRON can do! It would be fun to pit it against the Tesla........."apples to apples" Jon.
@justrcfun1042
@justrcfun1042 5 ай бұрын
What tires did you guys run again?
@jasontysoe138
@jasontysoe138 5 ай бұрын
The cold would significantly affect the battery performance in the Tesla... loads of KZbin videos on battery temperature and hp output difference in the Tesla 3 Performance
@gurgenmakaryan4428
@gurgenmakaryan4428 5 ай бұрын
If gasoline money isn't issue, i still prefer combustion engine even if slower, but totaly different feeling, specially rs cars
@nickdubya9924
@nickdubya9924 3 ай бұрын
I was just wondering the difference in snow, although my next car is a RS5/RS6/RS7 no doubt. Really want the 2.9T e-hybrid in next generation Audi avant lineup but nothing is guaranteed so might get a Panamera. Size wise, that’s probably more comparable to a RS4 avant than a RS6, yeah?
@Pabla98
@Pabla98 3 ай бұрын
As Model S LR owner and RS7 owner this review is spot on. The Tesla AWD system works very well when it works but its a bit unpredictable there are a lot variables it playing with and it errors on the safe side (my car doesn't have track mode so can't turn of ESC or change torque split). The Audi on the other hand almost feels like a sledge hammer in a good way, it was predictable but almost felt like it was allowing a lot of slip (ESC Sport). It isn't an apples to apples comparison though since I have directional snow tires on the RS7 and high performance winter tires on the Tesla but whenever it snows I reach for the RS7 keys.
@JohnSmith-se5vo
@JohnSmith-se5vo 5 ай бұрын
Id take the awesome RS4 engine sound roar over the whisper quiet electric Tesla engine any day of the week.
@JAM_2024
@JAM_2024 5 ай бұрын
The fake roar you hear on the inside sounds stupid
@Eduardolo1964
@Eduardolo1964 5 ай бұрын
I live in Switzerland and that's exactly why I drive an RS4. My choice at the time was the B8 model with V8 4.2 L high revs 8500 rpm.
@edgarcalderon9482
@edgarcalderon9482 5 ай бұрын
I literally just fitted the p zero winter tires on my 2013 rs5 last week and was upset because I couldn’t find any videos on them. They’re my first winter tires ever
@bayarnadhif2641
@bayarnadhif2641 5 ай бұрын
Audi is better
@Meisterqn
@Meisterqn 5 ай бұрын
Nice video. I like my actual Audi daily driver and I think, they made absolutely great cars or still make them with combustion engines. But due to several reasons, my next car will be bought within 2024 and it will be an electric one and so far, I think it's gonna be the actual Model 3 Highland LR. If I could get my A4 with good working software including OTAs like the ones from Tesla and a nice electric drivetrain for an acceptable price.... But there is not a even anything to see in the next years. Also I always said, an accaptable price would be the Model 3 price + ~5k for the increased comfort in driving and noise maybe. But since Tesla released the Highland, I see no more reasons for those 5k extra. If I see, how much hard plastic is used in my A4 and how much is used in the Highland and that I had to pay around 1200 Euro to have ventilated seats which are an absolutely must have for me... I hope, Audi will accelerate it's delevelopment a little bit, because for me they're still the german brand with the best design through all models.
@BrianCorish
@BrianCorish 2 ай бұрын
I have a Model 3 Performance and regularly drive on snow (live in Switzerland) I agree with everything you said. The technology is great but it’s a bit boring as a drivers car.
@AdamCulf
@AdamCulf Ай бұрын
I've found track mode settings are best at 30/70, but that may only be any good on a tarmac track.
@mikdignan3776
@mikdignan3776 2 ай бұрын
Next test, try the off-road function can be activated with simple S3XY buttons (it can be always activated in MY lr e MYP, without toolkit).
@tiberiusluca
@tiberiusluca 2 ай бұрын
Very close results, but with price difference I consider that Tesla is the winner by far! Great video! 👍
@indus7riouz281
@indus7riouz281 5 ай бұрын
I would really love to see comparison between european winter tires vs nordic winter tires.
@neilanderson2374
@neilanderson2374 3 ай бұрын
I was visiting Iceland last year and i hired a cheap Suzuki 4x4 which came with studded tyres. Got to see some pretty hairy roads; dual carrageways with sheet ice where I was terrified of doing over 50mph on. Seemed like ever other car that would overtake me at speed was a Tesla 3. they looked phenomenally safe on the road
@CarlHook
@CarlHook 5 ай бұрын
I just spent 2 days with M3 Perf and my thought are identical. Someone needs to make a device to fully disable all nannies, as M3 Perf can do it, but its very unpredictable at high speed snow drift. Also you cannot drift slow, as you need to keep over powering nannies to keep the slip which means that you keep going faster and faster
@kruemelfelix
@kruemelfelix 5 ай бұрын
Why haven't you used the actual slip start option in the Tesla which is meant for snow?! Using track mode isn't the same, actually it's far away from the same.
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado 5 ай бұрын
Entertaining and informative (as always) ... though to come back to reality ... in my 50 years of driving in the UK I can count on one hand the number of opportunities I have ever had to drive on packed snow in anything like an unrestricted manner! So.. great comparison when pushing the ultimate edges of performance but pretty much irrelevant to real world UK driving!
@dazdrum3390
@dazdrum3390 4 ай бұрын
What tyres have been used
@HyadumHH
@HyadumHH 5 ай бұрын
All good and fun, but I wonder how many laps can you do in the Tesla before it will not allow you to drift at all?
@borinvlogs
@borinvlogs 4 ай бұрын
Question is how many laps can you do without getting tired, sick and dizzy? 🤢
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