Audio-Technica ATH-M50x vs Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro | Why I Decided To Switch...

[@demarantz]

I’ve been using M50’s for almost 10 years for home studio audiobook recording. Been working exclusively from home for the past 4. Changed the ear pads. I like the sound. Louder than others I have. I’m listening for unwanted noises, so they are great for that. The shallow eat cup can start to hurt after a while. Feels like my ears are pressing on the speaker screen. But I wear them for 5-6 hour days.

[@1babyflix]

I have used these headphones for ever as well. I changed the earcups to larger ones and now finally i can wear them all day without any pain

[@tarkgundogdu8940]

the connection on the left side becomes loose and the left speaker stops working after some time, then I must dismantle the cable from the headset and connect it. then it works. is this the case with all audio technica m50x headsets?

[@Mushroom-God-1]

How long before the m50x started flaking at the top? I know you can replace the ear pieces but can you replace the top??

[@Mope333]

@@Mushroom-God-1yes but not the label (yet)

[@bsilver887]

I own both the M50s and 770 80 ohms. The 770s needed amping for my setup, but they are far better than M50s. Also the velour pads on the 770s are heaven compared to the M50s pads

[@ohsoleohmio]

an lg v40 50 or 60 phone can power them no problem the quad dac is outstanding with them and lossless stream apps

[@taxandvax685]

same here, I sold the M50s

[@omarsoulay4764]

You can buy velours for the m50s?

[@chiefrebelangel817]

I tried both( and also 30 something other headphones) m50s weren't even close to my consideration. As someone who works on a field ( film and tv recording), sennheiser hd25 and 26 are gold standard, but they are too uncomfortable for me ( I also have big head and big ears). Sound quality wise for my purposes next best thing was shure srh440( they don't have boosted low and high end, mids are reasonably precise, which is most important for recording dialogue) but they are of so bad build quality (mine broke after 10 days of use) that i had to find something else. at the end i have settled with the dt770s. build quality, reliability and comfort are top notch, but i had to accept some compromises in the sound department

[@optipwr40]

How do you know if you need an amp or not?

[@val_de_mez]

Im on M50x just for piano playing and its ok but I tried to stay doing something in my DAW and after an hour and half I just couldn't take it. Very uncomfortable. But up to an hour or with significant break, great. Can't wait to try the 770. Cheers man. Great, right to the point stuff as always.

[@ElRobboz]

I own both of these, I wear glasses, and I live in a significantly tropical climate where heat and humidity is high over a third of the year. The ear pads of the 'pleather' are inferior to the plush, however you can easily halve or quarter the timeframes for longevity mentioned on both of these in this environment. One other thing I should mention is that the rubber/plastic sheaths on the thin wiring of the DT770 80hms quickly deteriorates after a certain point in this climatic setting. That said, electrical tape and silicon wrap has temporarily fixed this in an inelegant, but effective, manner on my DT770s. I'm really pleased with the sound quality of both of these, however neither are really built to last in a tropical clime. Thankfully, both companies provide spare parts. Overall, I still tend towards the DT770 80Ohms as my preferred option if wired, but the bluetooth version of the MX50x definitely has advantages in non-critical listening environments. I should point out that I use Sonarworks Reference software (non-sponsored) for each of these to balance out any ingrained idiosyncrasies that come with each headphone when mixing/mastering.

[@AudioUniversity]

Thanks for sharing your perspective on this! Very helpful!

[@ghostfrieza2904]

Hey out of these 2 which would be better suited for someone that just wants to plug the headset in directly to my macbook and produce phonk and trap beats?

[@OYCSTU]

Thanks for the video! I had my m50s for about 5 years and 3 of them I used to hate them because of the comfort issues like what you've mentioned. Then, I got myself two sets of alternative earpads - one like those on 770s and another that is more like a foamy thick pillow - and I never noticed much fatigue ever since. 99% of time I use those 770s-style pads and they enhance both comfort and, to my liking, sound. Great stuff and a rather cheap upgrade.

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

Please post a link for the culture

[@rebeccaloggs457]

@@user-mb8rf7qk5qUnfortunately, KZbin deletes links so he wouldn't be able to.

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

Specific website or company you ordered them from?

[@rebeccaloggs457]

@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Some really nice ones are Brainwavvz Prostock ear pads but they’re really pricey (for me at least). A great cheaper alternative would be ZMF cowhide pads. Otherwise, you could literally just stretch out the stock ear pads overnight.

[@OYCSTU]

@@user-mb8rf7qk5q not really, i've basically searched for m50 earpads on aliexpress and picked ones that seemed best in terms of looks, expected feel and effect, seller reliability and reviews

[@picksalot1]

I have an M40x, very similar to the M50x, but has a flatter response. I love the sound. As you indicated in the video, the materials do not wear well, and the headphones are not comfortable. I pt a piece of foam over the headband, it was so bad. Another thing worth noting is that the removable cable has a non-standard plug so if the cable breaks, it's not a quick fix. KZbin has some videos on how to get around this problem. For audio accuracy, I'd suggest the M40x, but definitely not for comfort.

[@CaseyHardman]

I had the M50's for several years and they were great. Had to bend the top headband out because it squeezed a bit too much and gave me a headache after a couple hours of use. The headband also just started breaking down, so I had to get a cover, which also wasn't the most comfortable, but beat having little black pieces in my hair. lol I also upgraded to thicker, softer ear pads, which felt great, but felt like I lost a little bit of volume. I bought an Audient EVO 4 last year and decided to get the 770s (80 Ohm) and have had zero issues with them. They're incredibly comfortable and sound phenomenal. Even though the M50s are fantastic, I'd definitely recommend the 770s over them, personally!

[@laine1967]

I have both! Like you said, I think that it's easier to listen different elements in the track with DT's and the ear cups are superior. I just happen to have problems with referencing while using DT's because they sound so spacious. I absolutely love the spacious sound, but I have to check my mix with monitors and also in-ear plugs to get the right stereo image balance. Still loving them after six years and yea the ear fabric looks cursed after that time :D I use M50's only for DJ:ing. Cups have perfect rotation and the sound is so nice that I usually just love to jam with the headphones on when performing.

[@radioprobromania]

Who is better for house music ? Thanks !

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

its the most ambitious cans ive heard, kind of ie900 in highend area

[@erickelly4107]

I've been very pleased with my DT 770 Pros 80 OHM version paired with a GOXLR Mini. Mostly use for gaming and they work great for this purpose in large part due to how comfortable they are even for extended periods of time.

[@MerajTypeBeat]

There’s no way somebody can claim to be an objective person and also claim that the m50x has an overall better sound. Because strictly sound wise, the DT770 are much better than the m50x. I owned the m50x for years and it sounds like dog 💩 ever since I got the 770s. I sold them due to that reason because it’s one of those things where if you make the switch, you can’t go back. DT770>M50x, easily!

[@mishterpreshident]

I have the DT-770's in the 250-ohm version. I generally hate headphones because they always cause significant pain in the ear cartilage after resting there for an extended period. I was drawn to the idea that the DT-770's went *around* the ear and, sure enough, it makes a big difference.

[@D-Ogi]

Same here. I got a 770 pro and finally I can listen to/produce music for hours.

[@valarmorghulis322]

Which amplifier do you use for DT 770 250ohm if I may ask?

[@mishterpreshident]

@@valarmorghulis322 Straight into the MOTU 828 mk2. The headphone jack has its own amp and gain knob.

[@valarmorghulis322]

@@mishterpreshident Thank you.

[@samuelivascu7633]

I own 990s and m50xs. I use them in parallel, but the m50x is way more fun to write on while the 990 pros are better for mixing. I use HS8s, 990 pros and m50xs

[@arupian666]

I've used the DT770 250 ohm for years. Awesome headphones that I can wear for days. Seriously, the number of times that I've forgotten they're even on my head till I get up and yank them. 1000% on the extension cable. An absolute must.

[@cybersixx]

Do you a recommendation for an headphone amp ? I bought one at 50 ? Im not sure if it s good enough,, tx

[@GingerDrums]

I love both for tracking, no problems either way. I have had reliability issues with the 770s especially at the cable. DT 1990 for mixing and mastering are stellar.

[@supernotnatural]

what was your issue with the cable. they are great headphones and that bothers me. i wont have studio monitors soon so i really need dt770 soundstage as well.

[@adeptalakay]

@@supernotnatural i had an issue with the cable, it was very long, and not detachable but i spent about $80 plus shipping to get someone to mod a detachable 3.5mm jack

[@briangardner3418]

I have em both straight from sweetwater...Thru the universal audio twin duo...the beyerdynamic is way more comfortable when keeping em on but dont pack the punch the mx 50 does..Both great but been using the audio technicas more

[@scottfleck2223]

They make larger pads for the M50s for less than $20 that are much bigger than the originals and it actually improved the sound isolation and also the bass response. Much much better seal after I upgraded those pads.

[@spectrapulse2104]

Yeah I've gotten my ear pads from Wicked Cushions purely for comfort reasons. They also sell some covers for the headbands which stops them from becoming all flakey over time.

[@SuperJg1975]

Hi Scott, do you have a link where i can buy those Pads ?

[@mynet1982]

Can you post a link to exactly those pads? Thanks

[@willwilliams7491]

Ditto, link to those pads? Thanks!

[@MrLeSa95]

Bro you cant post shit like this and not provide link

[@shred5]

I have a fairly big head and the M50s are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used. They are also much more biased where the Beyerdynamics are a bit bright - might be good for trying to hear things, but I would never use them for a final mix. That said I was thinking of switching my casual listening set over to the DT 770 Pro but in this day in age if I am spending over $50 on headphones, they should have a detachable cable although my original M50s with the original cable did last me 14 years.

[@Zachary_Sweis]

I used my m50s for about 10 years. They started peeling badly and falling apart. But 10 years is pretty damn good. And I like the detachable cables.

[@FedericoMissio]

I have both... but recently I add to my "collection" the Sennheiser HD 560s which to me overcomes them both. Very neutral while musical and detailed, with a great soundstage and very comfortable as well. Just a bit more expensive, but definetely it's worth.

[@traderboi3954]

Aren't they open back? Do they leak a lot of sound? My setup is in the living room and I'm in a 1bedroom apartment. Will that disturb my roommate? Also because my conversations with my friends aren't always pg (and the games I play)

[@spifariffic]

@@traderboi3954 they are open back, but the HD 569 version is closed-back. From what I can tell they seem the same in all other ways but I could be wrong.

[@makunouchiippo816]

Sadly they are not very good if you like metal genre music

[@RM50507]

Hd560s is definitely not neutral, for your taste is

[@joshuac837]

I have the 80-ohm DT 770 Pro and they sound great, comfy, and I really liked that spaced-out sound. Just makes sitting back in the chair and listening to a well-mastered track that much more enjoyable imo

[@Markisbeatz355]

Hi! Which in you opinion has a better sound because I am thinking to buy and cant decide between these two. Sooo are 770 better than m50x or not?

[@didnotgiveafuck]

​@@Markisbeatz355 i had both and they both sound great and obviously it depends on you , but honestly for music production i had few big problems with dt770 250ohm that m50x solved them all

[@josepimentamarques415]

Hello ! I’m looking for a Headphone or IEM for listening to both Classical Music and Progressive Rock ! Which ones would you recommend? My budget is around U$500 ! Thanks in advance for your attention…

[@josepimentamarques415]

Please ???

[@gavin5861]

I got the M50xBT a while ago and couldn't wear them for more than an hour without my ears really hurting. I got new Wicked ear pads for them and that solved the problem! I'm not an audio expert and I don't have a good ear for it but I didn't hear any noticeable difference in the sound, however what I did find is that people claimed the Audio Technicas are base heavy and the thicker ear pads absorb some of that base. So in theory they should have a more flat curve. I wouldn't recommend them though. When doing my research I jumped the gun on buying them. If you have them, they are great headphones. Consistently in the top 10 but generally always around number 10, good enough to make the list or be mentioned which is an honor of it's self but not the best in the price bracket. Enjoy them if you have them, they are great, but if you don't, I'd look at another pair

[@stepanbucher2512]

I feel like 770 are more of a studio environment headphones while M50x are more like a live sound headphones. Am I right?

[@x0rZ15t]

After comparing both headphones and thinking for month which one to buy I'm happy to say that I bought them both 😁

[@robertorc480]

Si solo los quiero para disfrutar la música en mi celular cual de esos es mejor? Se que no están hechos para eso, pero quiero saber cual de esos dos seria mejor para escuchar musica

[@ClayHurst]

I have had the DT 770's for 12 years. I have the smooth long cord (non-coil). I love them for everything in the studio and tracking. HD 280 Pro's are fabulous as well, I use those for my main headphones while browsing the internet on the laptop. They can double as great studio head phones if I have an artist tracking with the long corded DT 770's

[@tommaxwell429]

280 pros sound good but man, they are uncomfortable to me. They are like putting my head in a vice! I've tried everything to loosen them up with no success. I use a pair of Steele Series for gaming and they are so comfortable. If you know of way to make the hd280's more comfortable, let me know.

[@iasyama1999]

​@@tommaxwell429same dude, the clamping just doesn't go away!

[@匿名的-1]

I wish the Beyerdynamic would have detachable cables. That's the thing I really dislike about them. These would be my first "expensive" (for me) headphones, therefore I would like to use them for years to come. I'm aware that the cable is pretty well made, but I still feel safer with a detachable cable.

[@supernotnatural]

same thing for me, we need dt 770 alternative that is better than m50x with detachable cable

[@匿名的-1]

@@supernotnatural A DT770 would be my literal dream. German made, superior quality. But the cable thing is so infuriating. It would be so cheap and easy to do but they refuse to do it.

[@supernotnatural]

@@匿名的-1 I found Sennheiser HD560S, amazing reviews everywhere, detachable cable too. I found cheap like around 150$ so went for it.

[@匿名的-1]

@@supernotnatural Nice, I'll check it out. Thanks, have a great day!

[@micmac8171]

700 is with detachable!

[@korkenknopfus]

That is nice: I have the M50 (the old version , without the X) since end 2009 and the DT 770 Pro 250 Ohm since 2020. I bought the first for monitoring when mixing, although I use mostly my monitors (don’t like really mix with headphones). The 770 were bought for recording and they are plugged into a headphone amp with output for 300 Ohm. The 770 are indeed more comfortable, but as said I use them for different purposes.

[@vewilli]

I‘ve got both of them, the Audio Technical 50 in a little older version. I agree completely with what you say.

[@AudioUniversity]

Thanks, GAD!

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@vewilli]

@@fam.7971 of course, why not if there is a headphones input jack!

[@mr.u.213]

You made my day, thank you for sharing!

[@tasteapiana]

I've been using my 240DFs for 22 years and they still work perfectly and the surrounds haven't cracked or gotten sticky. They work for me but I wouldn't suggest others use them because, most likely, they wouldn't know how to use them for refining a mix. I switch in Tonebooster's Morphit now and then but, honestly, ''flat'' doesn't sound right in diffuse field phones, just bassier which does NOT help me to narrow in on 500hz-5.5khz or listen for cymbal/transient chirping or verb artifacts up beyond 8k. As for mixing 100% with headphones or expecting them to replace monitors, I don't see the point in not saving up a little more money and just getting a pair of Austrian Audio Hi-X50s or, preferably, X65s (I would go X65 due to their being DF). But, I get it, the DT 770 Pro is this decade's KRK (I'M YELLOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M YELLOW!) monitors, they should all come with a 1-way ticket to Jonestown, GY. I've never had such a need to feel accepted.

[@skaliwag8886]

AKG K371 are a steal when it comes to quality Vs price and they are super comfy. I spend most of my day wearing them.

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

these are what I have after getting rid of my 770 Pro 80 ohms after being severely disappointed with them

[@lbirkert]

I don't really like the DT770 pros to be honest. The build quality is rather poor and aside from them advertising repairability, I tried removing the driver to remove a hair which caused rattle, the new plastic bracket design makes it impossible to do so. These are only half year old and already starting to fail. I am really disapointed.

[@Dionysor]

Thank you for the upload. I too hated those pleather earpads and instead of getting new headphones i just got velour earpads and boom it wears nicely and it's less bassy, cleaner highs. Anyway. Earpads aren't super cheap so i also could have gone the whole hog and get some 770 pros. Maybe next time when i hot enough change

[@jinekLESNIK]

I had used m50 for 3 years and then 770 for 8 years and now thinking to return back to audio-technica

[@Vespyr_]

I can take my M50x on the plane. I can walk around the street with them. I can chuck them in my bag and go. Try doing that with a hard wired DT770 and its huge ass fixed coiled cable, and big round cans and you'd look like a clown and trip all over the place. Go with the M50x if you want your headphones to fit a commuter lifestyle with great sound, especially the BT2 version which has LDAC and sounds great wirelessly. Just make sure to upgrade the earcups to the Brainwavz ProStock Perforated ear cups. This is an extra expense but it is worth it. These perforated earcups are so good, Audio-Technica should consider upgrading the base design with them out of the box.

[@integerdivision]

I found the original earcups to fatigue my ears so I bought some much deeper memory foam ones and I no longer get that on-ear fatigue. The only downsides are less isolation and slightly higher chance of slipping off my head from the softer, less grippy earcups.

[@aidennymes6335]

I got myself the m50x and compliment them with the open back dt990 pro. perfect combo imo for production and the m50x are my go to DJing phones.

[@erichieger7386]

I have the same 2 also! Love them both, with a pad swap for the 50x. Stock are trash.

[@akshayjuneja1987]

@@erichieger7386 which pads do u use now? I too don't like the stock pads on my m50x

[@erichieger7386]

@@akshayjuneja1987 also, there are more expensive high quality ones made specifically for AT-M50x, from Dekoni and Wicked Cushions, Brainwavz. Can't go wrong with any of them!

[@erichieger7386]

I forgot to mention that one of the reasons they are so great is the thickness and density of the padding, plus the size of the opening - it keep your ears farther from the drivers and creates a lot more space.

[@akshayjuneja1987]

@@erichieger7386 thanks man...

[@Tiphou]

very clear and well made video, thank you my friend!

[@BojanBojovic]

Neither of those are for reference monitoring and critical listening, but both sound relatively good for tracking as they are closed back design. I find DT770 a bit lighter around 200hz where M50X has significant bump, but DT770 are more sibilant so all in all a very similar experience when it comes to neutrality. The biggest difference you did not mention for some reason is the soundstage, DT770 has a much wider soundstage while M50X has virtually no soundstage at all, which renders those two headphones totally opposite depending on what you need them for. While DT770 can sound more relaxed due to this psycho-acoustic effect they are not as near as good for singing and recording as M50X which brings the voice to the center of your head. DT770 feels detached and far away so you need to make them louder in order for the singer to get comfortable, but then they spill too much into the microphone. Both great, build quality is maybe better on the ATH as pads on the DT770 get destroyed relatively fast, but ATH does not allow for the headband to be replaced so they are even in this as well. For critical listening I would recommend the ATH R70X, incredible sound, almost dead flat while being relatively affordable. Another great option is AKG 620 Pro, they are literally dead flat and cost almost half the price of the R70X. Both open back design though.

[@МедовыйПерсик]

Thanks buddy!

[@mikkorasanen5006]

When I tested m40x (pretty same as m50x but flatter) and dt 770 the detail in 770 was far superior compared to m40x, but the dt were also more colored than m40x so I went with m40x. I already had couple hifi systems in home, so I didnt need another one

[@jatinshah7780]

Very good voice and clear speech ....good job bro 💯

[@JasonBaretto]

DT770s are by far the better headphones in my opinion. I've been mixing with them (80 ohms), and (obviously depending on the mixer) the midrange translates accurately and gives you a better soundstage than the M50s. That said, this is easily one of the best comparison videos between the two. I would highly recommend the M50s in situations such as live sound or on-set recording since the swivel cups and comfort around your neck cannot compete with the 770s. Another point to also note is purpose. DT770s are definitely better for mixing, recording and mastering due to the frequency response. The M50s less so. The M40s are much more reliable for accurate mixes, but that being said... Using either headphones for longer periods of time will get you accustomed to the sonic signature, and if you use reference tracks, this shouldn't be an issue at all. Great video!!

[@AudioUniversity]

Great points, Jason! Thank you!

[@catsven1973]

I agree the M40x are more balanced and even compared with the DT770 I prefer the AT40x

[@MegaJojje123]

i only mix with studio monitors

[@mrbartek3122]

@@MegaJojje123 DT 770 work good with EDM?

[@MegaJojje123]

@@mrbartek3122 i should specify more clearly i mean studio speakers aka studio monitors heh, dt770s are good but it's always better mixing with speakers, the headphones themselfs are damn good i have them myself

[@ernieg]

im listening to this on my DT 770 Pro , I Also have the ATH-M50x both are great. DT770 are comfortable , thats why i use them also

[@Zif-the-Old-Herring]

I have the DT 770 250 Ohm. After many long hours over many years, they have begun to fall apart. Super glue and epoxy are my best friend. Time to order another set.

[@thatstokedgamer]

I can't explain it. The m50x's sound better but I always find myself going back to the 770s for some reason.

[@The.Lake.Effect]

I have a pair of the AudioTechnica's and they're fantastic. The sound quality, build quality, comfort, and features are excellent. My only complaint about them is the stupid proprietary cable that has the little twisting mechanism on it where the cable connects to the headphones. It's a really terrible design and makes it much more difficult because you can't just use a standard 3.5mm cable, and for basically no reason. Other than that, I haven't really got any gripes with the ATH-M50X model.

[@kadiummusic]

I have an old pair of 770 Pro's, I've had them for about 16 years and they're still going strong. I've recently bought a pair of 1990 Pro's and these are wonderful for hearing fine detail in the mix and I've come to prefer them over the 770's but I use still use the older cans when I want to work for a long while as I find them less taxing on the ears.

[@NONFamers]

Thanks for doing the comparison. I totally agree with your findings. I have been using the DT 770 Pro for, like, 20 years now, and they have served me well. However, when the left channel went a couple of weeks ago I thought about repairing them, but the pair was so worn out and miserable that I decided to fork out the money for a replacement instead. Happily discovering that the DT 770 Pro was still in production, I went with those again without a second thought. I use the Sonarworks plugin for frequency correction, and it really makes a difference! Sonarworks has a generic correction curve readily available for a lot of headphones including the DT 770 Pro although you can get a pair of individually calibrated DT 770 Pro directly from Sonarworks with their own, unique calibration. Me being a happy amateur, and the calibrated DT 770 Pros being almost twice as expensive as a stock pair, I just decided to go with the 'standard' calibration - it works for me. Now I can get an unimaginable amount of sonic detail, even when mixing on headphones!

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@RGMDG]

I have the 770’s. They are very nice. I think my favorite headphones are the Sony MDR7506. Really great cans.

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@ChrisBessy]

@@fam.7971 yes .... no problem ! I can use my dt770 250 ohm on my focusrite, thus zero problem for the 80 ohm ;)

[@RGMDG]

@@fam.7971 Absolutely.

[@pjmtry7]

Funny, comparisons are similar in stats with the BehringerHPX4000 and the Tascam TH-02 (which are not even close to the two you compared, but the comparison criteria are virtually the same!) I like the TH-2 because of the comfort. Leaning to get the DT 770's as my next jump!

[@Exodus-sh5mq]

The DTs are far superior than the m50s...which sucks because I loved the 40s and I thought getting the 50s would be a similar enjoyment. Unfortunately for me they were not. The DTs are FAR superior than the m50s imo I felt the m50s were too tinny and bright but yea...that's my thoughts.

[@nabman_]

Thanks for your review. I'm a big fan of BD headphones. I have the DT 331 and before that I had the DT 330 MK II. Amazing comfort. I have a big head and large ears and I can wear them for hours over my glasses and feel no pain or fatigue at all.

[@beornthebear.8220]

I didn't get the 770s because of many reports a read of the left channel going out. I ramped up a bit, and got the DT 880 Pros, and they sound good and are very comfortable,

[@doctor9228]

I'm usual user, not professional, play video games, talk with teammates, listen to music. I have both headphones: ath-m50x, 990 pro 250 om (open back version of closed back 770 pro). Agree with all in video. M50x squeeze my ears and get them hurt soon, 990 lasts longer, but finally it hurts as well. Probably I have pretty big head and ears. But worst thing is boosted high frequencies on both headphones. They really hurt my brain when i listening loud music like nails putting in my ears. Beyerdynamics even worse with that than Audio-technica. Recently I bought Senheiser 58x jubelie and it is perfect for me. It is very comfortable, lightweight, I don't feel fatigue at all, and has smooth high frequencies. Ideal headphones for sensitive people.

[@sugarprobe]

I see you have guitars in the back. If you were to use a pair for monitoring a guitar tone which would you go with? My initial though it the flatter m50?

[@AudioUniversity]

Either is good for listening to guitar playback. I like to use isolation headphones (Direct Sound EX-29) if I’m monitoring with an amp in the same room. I think any reference headphones would be good for listening to guitar that’s already been recorded though.

[@sugarprobe]

@@AudioUniversity thanks. I probably should have been more clear. I’m looking for something to use for use with modellers and dialing in tones. I have a set of in ears but there is some high end metallic sheen that bigs me. So looking for something that would sound natural while dialing in and recording my tracks.

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

I love my M50. Own mine for 9 years and they still sound as the day I bought them. I was sold by the flat response. Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you.

[@soulfulfool]

they are far from flat, m40x is better and 770 way better

[@Omar_ZX]

​@@soulfulfool or heck the m20x is even the most flat closed back audio technica make

[@soulfulfool]

@@Omar_ZX I believe m20 is better m50 is just awful but anyway open back headphones are the best

[@ADesertVoice]

The DT770 and the M50x are pretty much of equal quality. I really don't understand this, I prefer one over the other at this price range. If you want an ultimate headphone just get the Focal Stellia and call it a day and chuck everything else. Audiophile wannabees are so silly.

[@jer7255]

Exactly 😂

[@drumcoachnyc]

Only problem with the DT770 is that two plastic pieces that hold the headphones with the headset (with "byerdynamic" written on it) crack. I have this problem and my friend has the same problem. Other than that they are great.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I cant choose which one as both are highly recommended.

[@TheRealHarrypm]

As a M50X/M50XBT user (audio monitoring, general use) the stock pads I've never used for more than I think 2 days then I switched to flat leather/suade/hybrid pads (7USD each on aliexpress) are the reason I keep 3 pairs of these handy is each set of pads has a different alteration to the sound profile, now one thing I have to recommend is get hearing tests done properly before buying any headphones as knowing your physical data sheet allows you to be-able to judge equipment without having gaping blindspots. In my 7 years of using them headbands get replaced every 1-1.5 years just a simple de-solder job, pads every year or xmas you can wash pads but the PU sheads too fast. One thing I will note is 2.5mm locking was changed to 3.5mm non-locking and gen 1 BT is micro USB and gen 2 BT is type-c for power and these do hold charge for months and do last 2-3 days of use but BT is useless on windows directly so external transmitters are needed if you want to use it (I just have patch in points around the room for cables) though on macos and linux I've had pretty fluid experience with BT but its slightly lacking the depth of direct copper to a DAC. I will note here these are really easy sets to modify for balanced input. Now I will say the M50X are terrible for portability, personally I use a pair of pelter comtacts with geal pads and BT IEMs normally airpod pros when its just out and about this provides 100% sound isolation due to air gap, but full 360 position mapped amplified outside audio without taking the headphones off peltors are great for hearing protection with cut off ranges, I have wanted to make a pair with M50X drivers but its one of those long term some day projects.

[@Du.Chijiu]

I am using the M50XBT2. After replacing the upgraded headphone cable with an earphone amplifier, it not only listens to music at home, but also makes travel (Bluetooth) and entertainment more convenient.

[@evilmarc]

My m50x gave out after about 5 years because of the stupid swivel. Technically they’re perfectly fine but there is no way to repair the little plastic tab that keeps the swivelling ear pads straight on the ears. It chipped off randomly while wearing them and now the left ear pad presses into my ear and is unwearable. They’ve held up pretty long but it hurts to throw away headphones because an irreplaceable 2mm plastic tab broke off

[@fraenkiboii]

It's always so funny to me how subjective the perception of headphones is. I compared the two for my purposes (electric guitar recording) and I prefer the ATs for both sound and comfort. Plus, I ALWAYS wedge the flesh at the top of my fingers in the hinge mechanism of the BD DTs. It's as if they come cursed for me.

[@MrSouzy]

I don't have dt770s I have dt990s. They are used by the entire family. Music, gaming, films everything. The pads can be simply washed. Sound wise though a good amp they sound amazing. I just bought another so that I don't have to share:)

[@luksweam]

They get dirty more easily but you can actually wash the pads for the DT 770. By hand and with some soap, of course. Same with velour pads for HD 25. DT 770 have a weakspot where the cup arms enter the headband. Since the arms don't swivel freely, the plastic tab breaks in the middle. That said, these are my most beloved headphones and, if I were 20 (or 30?) years younger, I would wear them outside. In the winter.

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@brennyC]

Hi Kyle - can you make a video for Beyerdynamic DT 770 vs Beyerdynamic DT 990 ?

[@AudioUniversity]

I don't currently have the Beyerdynamic DT 990s. I'm interested in testing them out! Thanks for the idea, @Brenny .C.

[@edwardholappa8410]

For me Beyerdynamic, I had Audio-Technica, as you say, they hurt beyerdynamic DT1770 Pro Headphones 👍 they are like a German car Mercedes

[@nacholibre9929]

great info

[@prodbyshdw]

I have been using the beyerdynamic dt770 pro 32 ohms version with my computer and they sound amazing

[@_.go._]

It's not a studio headphone, but I really like my bose headset. It's comfortable and sounds great, but it has the same issue with the earcups that are starting to flake out :(

[@Lycos1985]

I love my M50x

[@boijorzee]

I recently bought the 32ohm 770's and they are pretty good. I can see how recording studios love these because they are very revealing. A bad recording will stand out like a sore thumb on these which is good if you work in a studio but maybe less desirable if you just want to casually listen to music. Also if you are not planning on using them on a mixing desk or headphone amplifier you should not buy the 80 or 250 ohm version of these. There is a lot of misinformation out there and I can see how people would be led to believe that more ohms=better quality.

[@arctr00perecho]

I just ordered the 80 ohm version just because I wasn't ready to invest in a higher quality DAC and amp to hand the 250 version so I got a more average DAC/amp combo. I wanted the 880s for the semi open configuration, but those only came in 32, 250, and 600 ohm options. Really funny because I was researching about ohms in regards to headphones and what they were earlier in the week. A few days later my engineering class went over Ohm's Law with the science and mathematics behind them.

[@fam.7971]

Boijorzee: can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@fam.7971]

@@arctr00perecho can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@scottstrang1583]

Yep these really reveal the "warts" in a recording and very unforgiving compressed music.

[@arctr00perecho]

@@scottstrang1583 is that why I find the bass in some songs wonky. Like there is almost a rumble in the song

[@danielkeybs]

I'd have a dilemma between having the detachable cord and the overall better comfort of the DT 770s

[@pablosantander5739]

M50X by far the best. The Beyer has more confort and construction, but the sound is less acurate.

[@WassupFred]

Good stuff bro.

[@blessedvlogreactions]

I have both DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm and M50X. I use DT 770 Pro for audio editing. M50x is just for listening music. 😁

[@ChrisBessy]

hi, thus you have better mix results with the dt770 ?

[@rsolsjo]

I have the DT1770 Pros. They're not the most comfortable for long sessions, changing pads is a bit of a nightmare, but they sound incredible. Like a.. tank.

[@mamaluigi2064]

I have the audio technicas One thing I do recommend is if you do buy the audio technica the first thing everyone should do is replace the stock ear pads with a set of brainwavz the OEM are complete garbage I'm genuinely surprised audio technica hasn't updated the pads for how long the M series of headsets has been out. The headset itself is so good yet the ear pads are just god awful If you buy one of these, get a set of brainwavz

[@colvinscorner]

Ive owned m50x's for about 8 years and my dt770s 80 ohm pro for nearly 6 years. Dt770 sounds unbelievably better. Even if I am just running my the 770s through my phone, despite being 80 ohm, they sound leagues better than the technicas. I am purely using these for personal music listening, no sort of mixing or editing.

[@grahamclark4518]

Dt770 for live broadcasting, i can wear them for hours without issue

[@nevian]

I've had a pair of M50x since 2016 and they sound amazing, but as you said, they're not comfortable for longer periods of use. I bought a pair of DT770 Pro (80 Ohm, so 3m straight cable) earlier this year mostly because of my big ears, and I can wear them for hours without any fatigue.

[@daynight6021]

Can the 80ohms work with phones and laptops and give an acceptable sound?

[@nevian]

@@daynight6021 on my Xperia 5 ii I have to nearly max out the volume to get a good listening level, but my MacBook Air has no problem.

[@daynight6021]

@@nevian thanks, i searched quite a lot about it and found no answer untill now

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@user-xj7ms2hy7l]

Are your ears bigger than 6 cm which is the inner diameter of dt 770 pro pads. Bottom of my ears will sit on pad so I am wondering will it be uncomfortable?

[@franky-161]

you can somewhat easily do a replaceable cable mod on the 770s through some tutorials, tho if you have no knowledge about basic soldering it might be a bit harder

[@valeo1988]

Audio-Technica ATH-M50x - 38 Ohms or Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO - 32 Ohms ? For listening to music on a smartphone, which ones do you think are better and which ones are more resistant to breakage in the long term? Will 38 Ohms for a smartphone sound better or worse than 32 Ohms in general?

The M50X makes my ears hurt after few hours too. They have a rather high clamping force and seem to press the top of your ear downwarsa a bit, and I think that's why they start to hurt slightly. I wouldn't go as far as calling them on-ear though, because they are still around your ears. They could just do with slightly larger cups.

[@wwlittlejOfficial]

I very rarely have my headphones on for more than 30 minutes at a time, if I'm pre-mixing ort laying down some beats. Do u not give your ears a break every 20-39 minutes?

[@AVDRE]

Could swap out the pads for better ones. I use mines for hours sometimes

[@keithpadden8684]

Change the ear pads for valour rather than leather so much more comfortable same awesome sound on mx50

[@svensvensson8102]

I have the DT770 250ohm. Comfortable, good quality build, good sound quality BUT they are anything but flat, as mentioned, That boost in the highs and some other quite non-flat frequencies means that you kind of need to compensate with some EQ for mixing.

[@SankarshanGhosh]

Currently using the M30x. You sold the DT 770s to me on the comfort sections. Insta buy, cause you know the same pain I've been living with while using the Audio Technicas. YES, them ears do hurt after a while. Thank you.

[@FinPhysio]

I have DT770 pro 80 ohm and I like them. I reseantly got AKG K371 and they are also very good for the price.

[@fabioa.565]

hello there how is the DT770 compared to the AKG K371 in terms of bass frequency. Which one have less bass ? thanks

[@CapitanTartaria]

Thank You man❤️

[@AudioUniversity]

Glad to help.

[@pafpro34]

I have used dt770 250ohm for 6 years. Yes it has a good clarity on highmids. But I don't trust it for bass frequencies. Whenever I mix a song with 770, I realise I turn bass freqs up more than it should be. dt770 250's response is so low, slow and loose on subbass and bass frequencies. It's hard to hear details about bass. Deceptive. But it's a fact it's so comfortable

[@mantrinbago]

Could not agree more with this reviewer. If you’re to be mixing for hours go with the DT770. But I couldn’t get a decent signal out of the 250k ohms versions with a Scarlet Solo sound card. I had to get the 32 ohm version. The AT sounds slightly more bass heavy than the BD. Also not only will the AT ear pads wear out after a few years but so will the material on the headband. But u can get a replacement cover for them.

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@mantrinbago]

@@fam.7971 The 80 ohm version may work depending on your musical tastes but IMHO you’re better off with the 32 ohm version on an iPad. The 32 ohm unit is the safest bet. It will work with most setups. Just remember to initially turn the volume down when plugging in if you’re using it with a high current amp so you don’t blast your eardrums. Also you may not get the curly cord with any version other than the 250 ohm. Am still searching for a 32 ohm with that feature.

[@fam.7971]

@@mantrinbago thanks for the answer, I agree with the iPad, but the Presonus Studio 24C audio interface should work though, am I right ?

[@moskva-kassiopeya]

I can't imagine how you've found 770's more detailed. I've tried them after my M40x's and… they are just dull in every possible way. If you prefer comfort all you need is just to change the pads on M40/M50. I chose ZMF cowhide pads and they are phenomenon, I can wear them for days. Plus they add a lot of stage which M40's and M50's lack of. Well, I guess everyone's ears and audio perceptions are really that different.

[@wwlittlejOfficial]

U might be interested to know: M40 review (vs Sont 7506, but really it is against itself since both are compared directly to a source material) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5WvoHSMbL6goKM Sonic Sense is no more, but they did the best and most accurate reviews, IMHO, because they didn't use "golden eared" opinion to say what sounds accurate, they actually compare out vs the music source so u can hear how different the headphones or speakers sound vs the original music. Literally no reviewer does this.

[@moskva-kassiopeya]

@@wwlittlejOfficial thanks, I should check it out!

[@moskva-kassiopeya]

@@wwlittlejOfficial yeah, that was a fair comparison. M40x are incredibly accurate.

[@wwlittlejOfficial]

@@moskva-kassiopeya that they are, it's really sad because after Sonic Sense channel ended, NOBODY reviews speakers like this. They still go with the words of a golden eared reviewer who might have 30 years in the review game, but has been doing it wrong the whole time. Anytime someone tells me, at least in a pro capacity they like 'x' headphones or iem's or speakers, and says yes they are very accurate and detailed, and they don't evaluate like this, they are full of shit. They are evaluating from memory, which is pretty much impossible. Now that only applies to pro level stuff , for producers and such, where accuracy is utmost. We have to know what we do to our mixes is exactly what we do to our mixes. Edit: sorry for the typos, lol

[@feliperc4805]

I have both (80 ohm DT770) and severely disagree. To me, the DT770 is slightly more detailed to the M40x. With the better imaging and the much better soundstage, the DT770 has a far greater instrument separation. And sound to me far from boring, they have a very present bass and highs. Bass is also much better than m40x's, much more texturized.

[@WayneMusicianUK]

Hi everyone I’m a professional musician, keyboard player and vocalist in various bands in the UK I’m after a new pair of headphones, currently have the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 ohms model, I’ve always been underwhelmed by their sound (dunno why) a bit of distortion sometimes, but extremely comfortable to wear and well built I do not do any recording or mixing at home and currently have my headphones plug straight into my Soundcraft EFX12 Mixing Desk, my keyboards and vocal mics are then plugged into the desk, I can then practise songs along to original tracks I’m learning for my gigs… the tracks are playing from my High Spec Windows PC, straight into my Solid State Logic SSL 2+ Audio Interface, which also goes into my Mixer are there a set of headphones you’d recommend that will sound awesome for what I use them for? I have a set of Sony MDR-7506 Coming today off of Amazon (to try) if I hate them, I’ll simply send them back… really want to try the Audio Technica M50X, worth a try???

[@godsonbrowne]

I have the ATH-M50x and recently bought the DT 990 Pro (Open Back) because I like hearing the natural drums along with the headphone mix when performing or practicing, plus I can hear my boys playing while listening to content like this video.

[@TSnippo]

Shout out the EQ. I used the m50x for 10 Years they are it.

[@johnhoganson94]

Agree with the “on ear” comment for the ATs. My pads were dying so I just replaced them with a thicker pad which pulled them off of my ears. It made them WAAAAY more comfortable. As I am primarily a live guy these fit my bill more than the 770s. Really though? Can’t go wrong with either.

[@fam.7971]

can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??

[@LukeWatts85]

I've been using the DT 770 250ohm as my only studio headphones for about a year now. I just bought the ATH-M50x intending them to just be my listening headphones while I travel. But now I use the 770s for writing, and both for mixing. I find the ATH give me a better grasp of the bass on most systems. While the 770 is great for when you need to reign in the highs

[@valarmorghulis322]

Which amplifier do you use for DT 770 250ohm if I may ask?

[@jusquicitoutvabien777]

I've had the ATH-M50x for a couple years now and they started to hurt my head so baddddd + the velvet / velour cushions we had to buy separetly is unusable ... full of hairs and craps that won,t go away even after loads of cleaning... I'm getting the DT 770 Pro for my birthday and cannot wait to try them !

[@sfstories885]

Damn I love the clarity of your videos. This helped me make my decision. Going with the M50s for live mixing.

[@advarkmerrygoround1425]

Thank you Sir, informative. I've been wondering what to get as a second headset for recording. I currently use 770 Pros 80 ohm with good amplification (Arcam A8). I used to use Sennheiser Professional HD 25 as they have a great balance, however they do not match up for longevity, they have an odd two prong plug to each driver, that ends up not working, DO NOT get the HD 25, they don't last even though they sound more accurate, sorry, you have no idea where I'm coming from. As a professional recording engineer (retired).

[@cellobanda]

Thanks a lot for this clear review! I beg your pardon, but where are you from originally? Just my curiosity 😀 Your accent sometimes sounds like East European.

[@AudioUniversity]

Thanks for watching, cellobanda! I’m from America originally.

[@cellobanda]

@@AudioUniversity Thank you for your reply 👍