Wow. It's amazing how close this sounds to the real engine across the entire rpm range. Inline 4 cars need to use this firing order. It sounds amazing.
@user-vs7sb9wg2r6 жыл бұрын
Larz This prototype of engine is un balanced unlike the normal inline 4.
@zahrulexe6 жыл бұрын
Larz yeah this would make inline 4 engines sounds powerful
@aerowenn6 жыл бұрын
Prototype engine? You mean a crossplane 4? Yamaha has been building and selling a bulletproof one for years now for its R1.
@650hpreventon6 жыл бұрын
The reason yamaha using this because racing, so a normal grocery getter don't need it.
@BuffMyRadius6 жыл бұрын
@@650hpreventon I don't want a normal grocery getter though. I want a grocery getter that goes fast and sounds like this.
@1delsol6 жыл бұрын
If all I4s had crossplane cranks, everybody would love them so much more.
@GoGoggansGo4 жыл бұрын
Nick Darlington unfortunately it won’t happen, Yamaha gained nothing and i mean nothing by going to a cross plane crank and even then it’s till not a true cross plane per say, they did it in moto gp for traction reasons and it sounds cool lol. It’s a big marketing scheme the same way Ford went on and on about the flat plane crank in the gt350 even though it did very little for the engine itself
@motorpolitan88844 жыл бұрын
@@GoGoggansGo Nothing? Many people bought R1s over others just because it's a crossplane.
@WilliamMoser4 жыл бұрын
@Steven Goggans what do you mean it isn't a true cross plane crank? The voodoo crank is a bit weird but I don't know know if a conventional flat crank would make more power, surely someone has done a back to back of flat vs cross plane crank with all else being equal.
@bakedandsteaked3 жыл бұрын
@@GoGoggansGoincorrect
@Olppa3 жыл бұрын
Flatplane sounds much better
@sinx29174 жыл бұрын
0:15 hear in 0.25x speed (nice beat)
@ellwindaniel94414 жыл бұрын
Loll😂😂
@ArunKumar-rd1bw3 жыл бұрын
Yup 😂
@aldriey3 жыл бұрын
😂😂🔥🔥
@MaexSmith3 жыл бұрын
🤣👌🏻
@firstimeshooter65903 жыл бұрын
Put put put put your hands up. And jump jump jump jump!!! 😂
@feriobaggio7 жыл бұрын
real close to what a i4 crossplane was, im a big fan of uneven firing interval engine, distinctive sounds, good job!
@MM1E6 жыл бұрын
I need like just a 10-hour loop video of that purring idle.
@pAirA_3 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@Mattsretiring5 жыл бұрын
That LEGIT sounds like my 2010 R1 with TBR race cans on it. All the way through the rev range. Spot on. Thanks for taking the time to do it
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the more proper sounding ones, thanks for taking the time to watch it!
@budja1501 Жыл бұрын
crazy how it really hits that V8 note. I know it's basically half a V8 anyways, but still cool
@ZuperPhresh6 жыл бұрын
Yo like even the idle is on point
@launch42 жыл бұрын
This legitimately made me smile when it reached about 3k revs. Like the kind of smile that really stretches your face muscles and makes your hair stand on end, like someone's scratching an itch you didn't know you had.
@alexanderl74916 жыл бұрын
1:07 when you're chilling at a stoplight
@albertomotors69013 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for VTEC to kick in
@akuryostyleup3 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta till the I4 starts makin V8 noises
@MoarButtsecks7 жыл бұрын
This even sounds like an R1 too! Well done.
@Hunter.19992 жыл бұрын
Because R1 is based on crossplane i4
@MJT-DA2 жыл бұрын
@@Hunter.1999 I’m pretty sure he was commenting how realistic it sounded it literally says r1 in the title captain obvious
@ogyedanjuma74136 жыл бұрын
Amazing how close it sounds like the real thing
@markmessmer57567 жыл бұрын
thats why i subscribed you because this is the best example for engine firing order sound ever, 2 days ago i was wishing for this to come and it happened, keep coming for the ducati or inline 3 and more, thank you so much what an educatonal channel
@WilliamMoser7 жыл бұрын
The crossplane R1 had me scratching my head for a while, from the yamaha promo video it looked like the two centre big end journals were on the same axis at first, much simpler to visualise when I worked out it is just a fairly normal crossplane crank. Ducati V-twin needs to be done, inline 3 will happen at some stage but I need to work out a better way to do the sound for inlines, if there is anything specific you want to see let me know. Thanks for the sub!
@markmessmer57567 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, I'm so addicted to engine sounds and always finding an answer for the reason why engine sounds different, and it's like my dream that I found this video
@bagusadikin74167 жыл бұрын
mark messmer I like the R1 too it amaze me with its at low rev like a muscle car and i figure out that it is just a pause between the first and the 2nd firing i try it with beat maker app with 6 beats (the 2 aditional beats represent the two gap from the 1st and 2nd firing) just with single cylinder and simply take the 1st and 2nd firing has a 720° gap and also 720° gap to the 3rd, the 3rd and 4th are normal every 720° firing so it looks like this 1 - gap - 2 - gap - 3 - 4
@bagusadikin74167 жыл бұрын
William Moser mark messmer here is my video of uneven firing Single Cylinder kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXqlfIx9e7eYg5Y
@ogyedanjuma74136 жыл бұрын
@@bagusadikin7416 the gap btw the firing of cylinders 1 and 3 is three times that of 3 and 2 and also, twice that of 2 and 4. Mind bending but easy to figure out
@krayzieegg72943 жыл бұрын
If you want to impress people knowing the type of engine just by sound alone this is where you learn
@szaboroland516 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that there are crossplane 4 cyls existing. Holy smokes... sounds like a V8 for real.
@Mu4dD1b156 жыл бұрын
Search 2009+ Yamaha R1 with literally any exhaust, they all sound amazing.
@user-vj4zw5ot2f3 жыл бұрын
Unmistakable unmatchable sound of the 1-3-2-4 sequence is music to my ears every morning I crank on it.
@_baller7 жыл бұрын
Does sound like v8, they should use this firing order in all 4 cylinders and theyd make more sales...
@user-vs7sb9wg2r6 жыл бұрын
tommy d u b b s cross plane I4s are unbalanced so manufacturers don't use them.
@_baller6 жыл бұрын
lego technic but imagine the sales if they found a way
@user-vs7sb9wg2r6 жыл бұрын
tommy d u b b s ppl wont buy a car just because it sounds very nice.
@_baller6 жыл бұрын
Ppl already dont buy cars cuz they dont like the sound of a 4cyl... mustang turbo
@user-vs7sb9wg2r6 жыл бұрын
Sportscars dont use small I4s and normal cars don't need good sound so a good sounding I4 isn't needed.
@turyanle94505 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect a 4 cylinder engine to sound like a v8
@shadowv67945 жыл бұрын
So you don't have to pay that much money for a *V8* car, but just buy an *MT10* or an *R1* XD
@nicksilvestri36453 жыл бұрын
Would’ve thought this was an R1 if I closed my eyes
@HorrorUberAlles3 жыл бұрын
Now I want a cross-plane crank on a K24 Honda engine. It'd be one hell of a sleeper.
@octanedemon55484 жыл бұрын
I love the 4k-6k rpm range of sound
@Skitad Жыл бұрын
The cross plane is definitely the best sound a 4 pistons engine can make.
@alexoriginals5 жыл бұрын
Perfect!! It explains this sound.
@rishikeshraj11382 жыл бұрын
Ultimate man! Although it's a digital representation but still incredible explanation. Absolutely perfect and accurate ❤️
@DoubleRRHonda6 жыл бұрын
How could anyone dislike this? Great work!!!
@whatupcuh67229 ай бұрын
because it sounds different on video speakers to irl, they like flatplane because they never hear crossplane irl
@krampp243 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is how close it sounds to the real thing
@teej56193 жыл бұрын
... it's even crazier that the real thing still has 5, 000-8,000 RPM left to run
@frigglebiscuit74846 жыл бұрын
actually, there is another crossplane 4 cylinder engine. the pontiac 195 cu in i4. it was half a 389 v8. it shook REAL BAD though.
@tubeyouianzz7 жыл бұрын
That's ace, i have the CP4 engine in my yamaha mt-10 and it's spot on on, even that resonance at 7000 rpm which is very addictive, and goes like stink, i've ridden everything (almost) and this is the best engine ever put in a motorcycle for the road! and explains why it feels like a twin and lumpy, great though
@maxharris4208 Жыл бұрын
And 5 years later, CP4 is still the best roadbike engine out there! And the best sounding inline 4, period. 😊
@mrchaos12766 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Truly sounds like an R1. Any chance of a video for the Aprilia’s 65 degree V4
@ohn9ne2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 MT10. This made me start giggling like a child it sounds so real. I love my crossplane.
@WilliamMoser2 жыл бұрын
Haha awesome
@YZFMANIAC085 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much you cant even fathom
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@10fantic6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an r1!
@acasualweeb.23943 жыл бұрын
yes, because R1 IS using the crossplane crankshaft
@guigao283 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, 2009+ R1 got the crossplane, and the YZR M1 (motogp model) also got the crossplane since before but I don't know which year exactly it started
@DG-EditsYT2 жыл бұрын
My dog was particularly interested in this the first time because i listened to so many he fell asleep 😂
@Shubhamdandekar5 жыл бұрын
Sir, your videos are very informative as well as entertaining. Plus, the resemblance of sound that your setup generates to the actual engine is just next to perfect. I have a request. Can you please make a video on your setup showing how it is, how you built it, the parts, the rpm controllers and stuff please. I really am very curious to know. Thanks alot.
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! The setup is a bit tricky to explain, it's just Arduino, a transistor array, lights and speakers. The tacho is a normal one driven by a pulse from the Arduino.
@szymon62072 жыл бұрын
17k rpm ?
@Rugerman2056 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Corvette that shrank in the wash! I love it!!
@PBasschannel3 жыл бұрын
I saw few comments here at this video: there are people who want to make sound their 4 cyl cars like this. Actually there is a theoretical and possible solution for that: unequal length headers. First, please correct me if I am wrong at something. Let's start with the subaru rumble sound: any 4 cyl flatplane and boxer engines are firing in 180-180-180 degree intervals, on the subaru 4 cyl boxers the runner-pairs lengths difference causes that the engine sounds like it is firing like 180-120-180-240 degree intervals. For this there exists a solution for few Honda inline 4 engines: 1320 UEL header. For crossplane inline 4 sound: it fires in 180-90-180-270 degree intervals, so now, if this length difference on subaru boxer 4 header simulates 60 degree delay at firing, then the double of this length difference will simulate +50 percent = 90 degree delay in firing, and this "double-subaru-header-runner-length difference" simulates on an engine which fires 180-180-180-180 exactly a 180-90-180-270 firing order = crossplane inline 4 sound. So, the theoretical solution using the 1320 UEL header: cut out the loop - which is the runner for the cyls nr. 3 and 4 -, then make a double loop with the same radius like the original loop, and of course using a pipe which have the same thickness like the pipe which was used for the original loop. If I am right, the reason why nobody made a header like this to date because it not worth it: except the sound it is wrong in every other aspects: it can be expensive, it can be hardly buildable even for a car which have big amount of space under the hood, can damage the engine (or at least shortens the engine's lifetime) because of the big exhaust backpressures at cylinders on the short runners, makes a non-negligible power and efficiency loss, etc...
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Messing with primary lengths might get you close at some RPMs, but they are more a time delay than an angle shift, I would put up with the Subaru rumble if I owned one but I wouldn't bother trying to replicate it on an I4.
@PBasschannel3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamMoser , OK
@luuk3417 жыл бұрын
Hey there, I have a few questions, do youuse a pitch shift or is this done ONLY by increasing the frequency of the sounds? I am trying to recreate what you have done in Unity3D. Also: very well done it is the best r1 simulated sound i have ever heard!
@WilliamMoser7 жыл бұрын
No pitch shift used, just sending a pulse to the speaker each time one of the lights goes on.
@luuk3417 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response mate!
@LeStraTele2 жыл бұрын
At lower rpm it sounds like a John Bohnam drum solo pattern. That's a great thing.
@komodotanjidor72723 жыл бұрын
I watch many motorcycle vlogger saying the same things "Crossplane 4 Yamaha sounds like Ducati V engine". Now i get it!
@Unfunny_Username_3895 жыл бұрын
The interval between one and three just seems wrong. It might make sense in the context of eight cylinders in a V configuration but in an in-line four it feels like the unevenness might lead to problems. Apparently, some people believe the higher performance versions of this engine are prone to creating a form of resonance that might lead to catastrophic weaknesses in the crank. Regardless, when you hear e.g. the MT10 with a decent can on it the sound is excellent. I kind of want one just for the noise alone.
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
It took a fair amount of work to get the cranks to not break IIRC, I think Suzuki's crossplane I4s have more problems than Yamaha's. I want one for the noise too, I don't even have a bike license.
@robertanthonybermudez55457 жыл бұрын
Just wow! Upvoted. Please also make a V4 if possible.
@peter.baerentzen6 жыл бұрын
An I4 crossplane has the same "sound signature" as a 90 deg. V4 (180 deg. crank) like e.g. the VFR 750F.
@Daniel-xc3ws3 жыл бұрын
Valwntino Rossi loved his Yamaha with a crossplane crankshaft
@unkownKalliii5 жыл бұрын
Love your idea and the way you present it - can‘t wait to see the new Ducati V4
@Zina_editz3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the real R1 is how good you did it dayum.
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
cheers, it's one of the better illustrations of the real thing
@nestormartinezmedina65735 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love this particular engine the CP4. I love it's sound. Now I know a little bit more about it, and the reason of that particular beautiful sound. Thanks.
@miweneia3 жыл бұрын
i can sleep to this beautiful sound
@SirCavemaninthewest5 жыл бұрын
What if this firing order is the same when a horse is galloping and every hoof that claps on the ground counts as a firing (power) stroke. know whAt I'm saying, Willis!
@poiXquared6 жыл бұрын
You need more subscribers dude... i really appreciate this kind of work
@ishaanmalhotra30085 жыл бұрын
Please do one of Aprilia's RSV4
@seantheberge54565 жыл бұрын
This firing order is music that I love to listen to.........
@cincinnatislider6 жыл бұрын
Uhh.. mind blown. I bought the R1 because of the sound it makes. Now I know its secret to enchantment.
@scoapproductions3 жыл бұрын
It really does sound like a baby v8. Love the demonstration
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@joshuarenacia6946 жыл бұрын
Please make aprilia 65 degree V4
@ThomiX0.05 жыл бұрын
It's clearly giving us the ' V-8 ' experiance, by the second basic sound coming in at revs of 4000. Amazing demonstration! But how about the first V-max 'V-4' engine set up? The 'V-8' sound was clearly there..and I haven't heard it more strongly ever since..,not even with the next generations.. How come? :-)
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
Some V4s have the same firing interval of this engine, maybe they changed it at some stage on the VMAX? I've heard a few, they do sound very good!
@SirCavemaninthewest5 жыл бұрын
It's the downpipes. The front bank has a longer distance to the tail pipe, the rear bank hardly any.
@ThomiX0.05 жыл бұрын
@@SirCavemaninthewest it might be so, but the newer V-Max has the same exhaust-distance then the old one.., still they sound different.
@felixlukiri23387 ай бұрын
I love that yamaha sound.
@tarunsharma52547 ай бұрын
amazing demonstration ❤
@rangasamy13174 жыл бұрын
Best video on you tube clear explanation
@YungJuicyMBM3 жыл бұрын
Dangg this one sounds amazing through and through
@turbojoe95542 жыл бұрын
would be a great sounding engine in a road car, however the felt vibration from the really odd firing order would be severe enough to never sell many cars.
@cromo7743 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I would like to see a video with an l4 with crossplane crankshaft but different. R1 has ignition times of 180-90-180-270, I propose a video with an l4 crossplane with 90-90-90-450. This is almost a real big bang and relatively easy to implement. (english from Brazil).
@avebave65503 жыл бұрын
I can feel it comin in the air tonight.... Crossplane
@spookgook49033 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cammed big block when fired up. chop chop
@DaengRosanda5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@xplane75236 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Yep (agree with below) that is how my Yamaha cross-plane (uneven firing Order) howl sounds.
@Zi9makin96 жыл бұрын
sooo freggen cool! You can actually hear the crossplane R1 :D
@Dma635 жыл бұрын
Can you make v4 scremer and v4 bingbang engine firing order??
@JAVTROOPER6 жыл бұрын
Make ninja 250 sound pleaseee
@ArunKumar-rd1bw2 жыл бұрын
R1 🔥
@MM1E6 жыл бұрын
I'm now really curious to hear the difference between the crossplane i4 and the honda vfr v4 (my real world experience may have been tainted by gear-driven cams....)
@ahmadfikri55252 жыл бұрын
Pls riques aprilia rsv4 engine (65°) and the difference with ducati v4 (90°) please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@juanantoniocruz29374 жыл бұрын
Just like the V4 but 1 fire behind
@Mr_Frazza5 жыл бұрын
Thats so cool, you should do the MT-09 engine, crossplain 3 cylinder
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
Already done kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqvUm6yXlL-ngKc
@Mr_Frazza5 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamMoser Oh Cool, i couldn't find it in your videos, i didn't look hard enough, these are so cool, it amazes me how they sound just like the real engines.
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Frazza it took me long enough to find it! Yeah I'm still surprised at how close some of them are.
@generaldistrust4 жыл бұрын
I do not understand how long we have to wait until this firing order is ever introduced to i4 cars!!
@WilliamMoser4 жыл бұрын
It's not the cheapest option so we will probably have to wait until there is no petrol left. I'd be happy with an I5 even.
@generaldistrust2 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamMoser i agree, but this in my country is impossible bc engine swap is FORBIDDEN over here... BUT -- crossplane is pretty much a more of a possible thesis of operation that could remain under the radar 😂😂😂
@CrazySteTV3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha also offered a Flat Plane with the same firing order 1 - 3 - 2 - 4 with Cranks for Cylinder 1 & 3 and for Cylinders 2 & 4 on the same position. You need to make that one too ;-)
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Did they? The earlier R1 was a normal flarplane crank AFAIK, the Ford Voodoo is the only engine I know of with. UDUD crankshaft.
@CrazySteTV3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamMoser i think you're right, it may have been Suzuki or Honda that did it that way. But... You sure need the Video of it
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
It would sound the same as the flatplane one I did.
@CrazySteTV3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamMoser not quite, as the firing timing would be regular, whereas the Cross Plane has an irregular firing with 2 chokes happening very closely
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Whoops I meant would sound the same as the flatplane one I already did. Comment fixed.
@biscuitracing60145 жыл бұрын
You should do a crossplane I4 with a 1-4-2-3 firing order
@babarimen5 жыл бұрын
The way its firing shows a sign of infinity (1423)
@Entity_BlackRed7772 жыл бұрын
I tried tapping at that beat as fast as possible, and sounds like the real thing, except I can barly do 1,000rpm.
@amedeostefanoni74759 ай бұрын
Sicuramente guidare questo motore è un vero piacere sinfonico pari o uguale al suono che emette la ducati desmodromica! 😍
@comvlog11325 жыл бұрын
that idle tho 👌
@Calzonii093 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, how come there is a delay between firing of cyl 1 & 3 vs 1 & 4?
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Because of the configuration of the crankshaft
@juanantoniocruz29374 жыл бұрын
Man i love R1's
@fedevillanueva95952 жыл бұрын
Los ángulos el arbol de levas serían los mismos, solo cambiarían el orden de encendido?
@2391jessie6 жыл бұрын
Now you why a IL4 crossplane has a unbalanced "rocking couple"
@sheparddoran23662 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered doing the kawasaki zx-rr moto gp bike? The one they refer to as a "long bang" screamer? There's next to no footage of that bike in action. The one video that does circulate is an ancient promotional video of a flyby that in a way almost sounds as high pitched as an f1 car, but could also just be a conventional flatplane four with the echos being flattering. But on the big bang Wikipedia page it shows the firing order being like a twin pulse v4 grouped closer together. I'm honestly left scratching my head as to whether or not there's this lost exotic close spaced four cylinder firing order that's higher pitched than a conventional flatplane four, or if it all got lost in translation and it was just a run of the mill four cylinder the whole time. Or even two separate engines people have conflated all this time. I'd at least love to hear a simulated version of the firing order it's rumored to have. Love all these vids. I wish i had the ability to test out hypothetical impossible firing orders that you might be able to spoof using unequal length headers.
@WilliamMoser2 жыл бұрын
I've down a number of 90 degree V4s, I could have done that firing order.
@lydoel6 жыл бұрын
What kind of speakers are you using? And how do you generate that pop sound in arduino ide? tone?
@WilliamMoser6 жыл бұрын
Leftover satellite speakers from a home theatre system, the pop just comes from the on/off pulse I send to the speaker.
@mahmoudanwar52003 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@solo40266 жыл бұрын
1 3 2 4??
@devideomeneer3 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting demonstration. Thank you.
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@WranglerSlim5 жыл бұрын
Given that engines can be rebuilt with new cams, pistons, heads, injectors and even crankshafts, I think there might be a market for crossplane conversion kits for 4 cylinder engines. Especially for that EcoBoost abomination that Ford plans to put in the Mustang.
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
It would be much more expensive than doing a V8 swap, and that would be more expensive than just buying a V8. Mustangs have had a turbo I4 option for at least a year now. Also there would be vibration issues and it would be tricky making the crank strong enough, it is tricky to get it right in much smaller motorcycle engines.
@moviebg4662Ай бұрын
Thats cross plane i4 firing order.
@seantheberge54565 жыл бұрын
i kept waiting for it to shift...
@wicaksonoanindita5 жыл бұрын
Racing exhaust = same sound, just more desibel Sexy sound ever in 4 cyl.
@preshitkeskar Жыл бұрын
R1 Yamaha Engineering ❤❤❤
@JrodGtar25 күн бұрын
How was this achieved with lights/sound? Resistors of different values for 3 of the cylinders? Does anyone know how william moser does this?
@WilliamMoser25 күн бұрын
@@JrodGtar this one just uses one speaker from memory, I later made two speaker boxes with 8 independently wired speakers in each. I've used resistors on some simulations, bur they generally make that speaker quieter, not really different.
@MathewPendleton5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the Yamaha MT-07 Tracer
@WilliamMoser5 жыл бұрын
here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmG1gGyohLGnY6c
@Flyingsgetti3 жыл бұрын
In de beninging it was making a beat
@Robert-zm5gj3 жыл бұрын
The order is 1 3 4 2 because when the spark ignite the fuel the piston 3 and 2 will go down and you cand ignite piston 2 fuel because that piston is already down
@WilliamMoser3 жыл бұрын
This is a crossplane crankshaft firing order, only one piston is at TDC at a time.