Dash Cam Saves Citizen From Lying Officer

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[@LeftInBama]

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Longtime fan of this channel, but this video stands out as very unusual for you. Where in the video does an officer lie? Can you point to a timestamp? Why do you claim that Mr. Ortiz "maintained a calm and collected demeanor" when he responded to an officer who calmly (and, according to you, correctly) states "I'm just letting you know what the vehicle and traffic law is" with "No no no no no no...." Mr. Ortiz maintains a needlessly argumentative tone throughout the encounter, denying things that, as far as I can tell, are never alleged by anybody, while the officers not only politely assist with his request to file a complaint but also take the extraordinarily courteous step of speaking with his *mother over the phone*! Where's the "lying officer" and how did Mr. Ortiz get "saved" by his dash cam? As far as I can tell, the video's title is false and defamatory.

[@Xanthrazhellfyre9501]

I believe everyone here knows the reason he pulled him over is because he "dared" to talk back to a police officer.

[@NathanTeaches]

Yeah, but the whole stop could be avoided if the driver had just said "Ok" when the cop told him the law. I'm not saying the cops weren't in the wrong, I just like to avoid making talks with the cops *ANY LONGER* than they have to be.

[@FriedFx]

It's New York... Of course the cop has a massive ego he needs to flex. Pathetic cop. I support police but not the ones using their ego to harass citizens...

[@THEMATTHIAS225]

@@NathanTeaches whole stop could’ve been avoided if the officers weren’t blocking traffic...or didn’t pull over to accost the driver...or if he just ended the conversation by driving away...or a million other things. The cops have all the discretion here. We need not point at the one mistake the driver made and use it as justification.

[@Nekulturny]

Yeah and it sucks, the advice AtA has is that people should resist the urge to be honest because cops are such dishonest and petty people...

[@jking0.o121]

And to get his name as a way to intimidate him. Like saying, look I know your name, and where you and your family sleep at. Cop should lose his badge IMO. He not only continually escalated the situation with the respectful citizen, but lied about his actions and also did the classic pull over in retaliation move. Bet he's the type to pocket money and plant drugs on people too. I mean, who's to say where he draws the line. Clearly doing all this even after being told he was being recorded didn't even phase him. So he must be hella currupt.

[@thebluestig2654]

Yelling at him for "abusing his horn" while they were guilty of "Obstruction of Traffic" is the epitome of cop arrogance.

[@alk3g]

Let's not forget NYPD have been known to stop traffic to catch motorcycles lane splitting... Also known as lane-sharing. These cops were well across the line and sharing a lane.

[@jarrettharper8313]

He was talking pretty strongly, but I don't know if that was yelling. Officers talk in stern tones, and they can be mistaken for yelling. Both of the guys were kinda loud, and that may have been because they were in the middle of traffic talking between two cars. I don't think people recognize that some people just have strong voices.

[@thebluestig2654]

@@jarrettharper8313 Stop with the pedantics, the word "yelling" has multiple meanings. I was not referring to "raised voices" . . .

[@yungheat84]

He wasn’t yelling

[@thebluestig2654]

@@yungheat84 SMH . . . Just stop trying to lecture English 101, "yelling" has MULTIPLE connotations, figure it out.

[@Archonus]

"You're free to write a complaint", because they'll never face repercussions.

[@jakwnd]

Your free to come down to the station and say your complaint to an officer who I promise will 100% dictate what you say into a formal form when you leave. Pinky promise.

[@MrCaptainTea]

The officers at the station will deem it unnecessary and arrest the guy for disturbing the police. Watch all the videos of people trying to file complaints and getting arrested/written tickets.

[@noneshere]

Thats why you get a copy when you file it.

[@measl]

*It depends. Something like this, no, the CCRB could care less. On the other hand, when I was still a NYC resident in the early80's, a friend of mine was a cop there, and when he got off duty he walked up on a little shit late teen holding his mother at knifepoint. He took it away by going hans on (which is fully authorized under NYPD rules), and the little shit filed a complaint of excessive force - the CCRB upheld it! Like with Democrats everywhere, if you are a criminal, you're good to go, otherwise, don't bother and **_know your place_** when dealing with their police!* *The NYPD earns their hate, every single day.*

[@utubepunk]

@@measl Like Democrats everywhere? Oh lordy. Ah yes, the POLICE, well known for their support of the Democratic party. Utter bullshit.

[@geraldsonnichsen3725]

Who else feels if the man had not called his mother who is an officer that this would have escalated a lot more?

[@NoseyNuNu]

Hella!

[@mom2babygkaterad946]

Oh yes!

[@thewolfdoctor761]

And his mother gave him good advice - to shut up.

[@OmkarG88]

Without a doubt

[@night_watch3508]

Oh yes definitely 💯

[@vcupiano]

Officer immediately acted like an asshole. He absolutely unnecessarily escalated this situation well beyond what was appropriate. This is text book power tripping.

[@useddentalfloss2484]

It's NYC. They fancy themselves as a gang and aren't afraid to tell you.

[@Moldylocks]

Yeah, I kinda wish Audit was my teacher, because if he gave those cops a C-, then I could've gotten an A from just showing up to class

[@drizzo4669]

He could have acted like a rational human being and said to himself "you know what, we're blocking both car lanes, lets just pull over".

[@jjgiveaway7913]

Welcome to NYC.

[@charlesg7926]

@@useddentalfloss2484 I feel like BOTH of them were on power trips. The Spanish guy just had the benefit of being right lmao.

[@charlesnorman1312]

I'm sorry if an officer lies they automatically get an F in my book just saying

Where in this video does an officer lie? I might have missed it. Can you point to a particular timestamp?

[@jeremyohandley9133]

@ When he claims the driver did not stop honking as soon as he turned on his lights.

[@DomThatDubstep]

@ 12:40 sums it up pretty well

[@Apocalypse_Cow]

This is also a RULE that I follow for ANYONE that lies. 👍

[@EdertheJust]

Yup

[@davethenerd1369]

When the cop had his hissy fit and first drove off, he was in a right turn only lane, then went straight ahead, without emergency lights on. So there's a moving violation...

[@tdog652041]

How dare you hold the police to the laws they’re sworn to enforce !!

[@AcmeRacing]

They're also only supposed to use the lights or siren when responding to an emergency or to detain someone who has broken the law. Not for annoyance.

[@MrCaptainTea]

You already know he would’ve yanked the dude out of the car if that was him doing it

[@IRoYaILTY]

They don’t have to use lights and actually are pretty much exempt from traffic laws. For example If they’re responding to a robbery they arent always going to use their sirens and allow the perp to know they’re coming.

[@lauralishes1]

It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.

[@mattrondeau7466]

How is it that 2 drivers talking to each through their car windows WHILE driving is NOT unsafe? If 2 citizens were doing this, they would certainly be ticketed. Honking your horn is legally justified in this situation.

[@brianvickery4071]

Could argue they were distracted driving and as such a danger on the road.

[@chiter200]

It was not. Him honking in this situations was unnecessary. Sure I do not agree what cops did after they scolded him but I would side with the cops on what they said about using the signal. In EU and the reason i side with this statement is that tons of new drivers get mentally pushed on the road because they are thinking before they act while more veteran drivers find it annoying that the newbie taking their time on the road. So what happens the inpatient driver honks at the newbie, the newbie thinking he/she doing something wrong accelerates and hits another car or what not. In this case if its recorded the honking car will be liable for the damages done and arguing in the court that the car behind honked and the newbie got stressed is more than enough to get out Scot-Free. Again going slow is NOT an argument to honk. You never know what is happening in the car in front of you. A light tap MAYBE.

[@albertmata342]

@@chiter200They weren't "going slow" they were STOPPED and blocking traffic. That statute may be on the books but do you think it's really enforced? Have you been to New York, every drive lays on the horn.

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

@@albertmata342 watch the video again. nerd. they were rolling the whole time he was on the horn. how you define things is irrelevant. you are not correct.

[@darkhobo]

@@chiter200 there is a danger of a crash there. If these officers stop traffic, he may be rear ended. /shrug

[@Makaay1786]

You can't honk your horn just because you're annoyed, but as a cop, you can apparently initiate a traffic stop just because you're annoyed. Yeah?

[@tylerbakeman]

Gotta uphold that law 😂 That cop was upholding the law so hard 😂

[@nokaccino]

Cops also get to cruise 10+ over the speed limit just because, run red lights just because, and forgo turn signals... just because!

[@realBorisLegasov]

Cops on some kind of undercover operation too. Guy: *honks horn*. Cops: *blow their own cover, abandon their undercover operation so they can throw their weight around against some guy who annoyed them*. Thank god for cops saving us citizens from scary car horns 🫡

[@Kushenable]

muricaa^^

[@AnthonyBlamthony]

⁠@@realBorisLegasov Right? Imagine if they were following some guy leading them back to a human trafficking front. It’s sad that that’s not even too crazy of an idea, there’s so many videos of American cops letting someone who’s actually breaking the law go just to defend their egos to random driver and blamed them for why the guy got away lol

[@hankowitz]

Notice how the cops tone toward citizens is condescending, and he speaks to other cops with respect? That’s the problem.

[@allenthomas182]

He’s being disrespectful to the guy’s mother!

[@colesisler582]

@@allenthomas182 many people from New York, jersey and eastern pa just sound like that. We’re not being disrespectful.

[@Ghoulishblade]

@@colesisler582 to be fair the existence of people from jersey is less respectful than spiting in a man's face.

[@CB-rv2lj]

@@colesisler582 I mean this in not a mean way (wisconsonite) you guys all sound like dicks. Just like straight up lmao. And I know you're not but damn. Sometimes that accent just sound so blunt and condescending.

[@RolandSpecialSauce]

Yeah its a big problem. Cops develope a us verses them mentally.

[@devonstrachan3658]

If he's willing to lie for something as petty as this, imagine what that cop does when he's writing a report with conflict.

[@johnhiggs5932]

This video would make great evidence in a courtroom to discredit this cop’s testimony involved in any future cases.

[@bloodaid]

Now imagine how many cops sit in private together and plan how they can manufacture a situation that could justify killing another human.

[@harrypot3381]

@@johnhiggs5932 ya your movie like dreams ain't never coming true .... the court will do absolutely no such thing.

[@roems6396]

@@harrypot3381 If a cop lies and gives you a ticket, and you don’t tell them that you have it on video. If you go to court and the cop shows up to perjury himself, and only then show the video, then he can get into some real trouble.

[@harrypot3381]

@@roems6396 I thought I any recording is taken without informing the person such things are not admissible in court

[@virlomientreri6970]

"He's got it recorded, so I got no reason to lie to him." Oh, but if the civvie wasn't recording, you'd have a reason to lie about it. Thanks, NYPD.

[@Kushenable]

muricaaaa^^

[@neil_mch]

Yet, they did lie.

[@2011blueman]

Except he DID lie, and he didn't it on the recording. The officer said the driver didn't stop honking, when he did.

[@RizztrainingOrder]

My dude is extremely level headed, the officers ego is out of control.

[@27613James]

UC's most likely divorced and can't get laid.

[@T.C.M.Y.T]

@@27613James honestly yeah that sounds like it’s 100 percent accurate

[@Ron898]

Yea but how old is the guy and why is he calling his mommy?

[@NorthernLightsGaming]

@@Ron898 you might wanna open ur eyes, unclog those ears of yours, pay attention to the video. It is clear why he calls his “mommy” stop being a prick

[@fishburitto3914]

@@NorthernLightsGaming I know shes a cop but I cant figure out why he called, I think it was to try to get out of a ticket but that'd be dumb because I doubt that works for extended family

[@MrNasetobaseto]

I'd definitely argue that blocking the traffic IS IN FACT creating an imminent danger and circumstances for a traffic accident.

[@melissacoxen6001]

I agree especially since their reason for doing so was they were talking out the window to each other about this "investigation" I'm pretty sure that's why they have radios and cell phones. They don't get to block multiple lanes talking to each other through the window.

[@ClingyKiwi]

Right they legit admitted they were blocking the road to chat

[@Togairu]

it absolutely is

[@marcusJudas]

Good point. Why does ATA never brought this up?

[@rogeliorodriguez8518]

Yeah but it'll help your case if you remain silent and argue in court if it escalates. Let the video do the talking. When you're heated anything comes out of your mouth. One might even blurt, "I honked because you're dumb".

[@Zachary-]

The most hardcore "I'm gonna tell my mom on you" ever.

[@merengueardiente]

@Hh Hh he know who his mother is, weird, but when he said his my mom is in 1pp they slow down pretty quick

[@20yearsago]

@@merengueardiente she’s probably above them that’s probably why they instantly calmed down

[@mroach1128]

Lol if you work in 1pp you're higher then 90% of the officers in the city. She works in police headquarters for NYC. They realized real quick he wasn't gonna just stand down because they got mouthy and ballsy like all cops who's ego got bruised

[@loganmannke9023]

😂😂😂😂😂💀

[@loganmannke9023]

The final act is, my dad can beat up your dad

[@kurtdowney1489]

This is why everyone should have a dash cam.

[@strangeloveforthatbomb]

Paraphrasing the officer: "The horn is for imminent danger NOT annoyance." Apparently, this NYPD officer has never been to or lived in New York City.

[@nyce6113]

The horn is not for annoyance but pulling people over is?

[@johnallenbailey1103]

😆 right, the whole city sometimes acts like they never been to NY before

[@tango2217]

Same could be same about him. I was laughing because I'm like shit boston would need horn police army to keep up here or in NY 🤣🤣

[@milktobo7418]

@James Mclean I'm with you. It is fucking dangerous to be way below the speed limit. Nevermind the fact that the car(s) don't even be in their own lane(s). Fire the cops.

[@tspbod260]

Right Ny driver's use their horns more than the blinker.

[@XionAvalonArcadia]

Wait.... Cop said to not use a horn in NYC? Isn't that the natural sound of the city?

[@murraymadness4674]

That is why they try to stop people doing it. It becomes meaningless.

[@chickenbradly]

You find me one person in New York City that doesn't use their horn, I'll eat my own hair

[@ono446]

@@murraymadness4674 there's a lot of value in using the horn for more than just a collision is about to happen

[@stevelibby6852]

Imagine how crazy it would be otherwise.

[@HJW018]

I think the correct interpretation of that statement is "You can't use your horn at them." (the easily bruised ego types with badges)

[@richarddimsdale6232]

So the officers were driving at 20mph and talking between cars. That in itself is unsafe operation of a motor vehicle.

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

Nothing to see here. You honked your horn, clearly a more serious offense. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Christophero]

It was from a red light so it’s not that unsafe, it would be hard to legally argue that they were accelerating too slow especially in streets like those. They were in the wrong for doing that, but not as legally sure-fire law breaking as what Ortiz did, even if what he did was less unsafe

[@TheSpatulaCity]

The driver could have said that he honked the horn to get the attention of the slow cars and ensure the safety of the cars in front of him.

[@contractkilla11]

@@Christophero I see what you’re saying but at the same time the one car kinda swerved at the other so maybe he beeped to try and prevent a minor accident. Also it’s the 21st century, why couldn’t they have just called the other officer to relay the information they claimed they were talking about instead of going slow and swerving down the road?

[@LiLBitsDK]

@@Christophero one of them was also driving in TWO lanes which IS illegal...

[@Ryan_Carder]

I love how he's "clearly doing an investigation" but had enough time to stop and harras this guy.

[@jasonstewart8363]

When he honked his horn he was in an intersection, prevented from going forward. That could be a potentially dangerous situation.

[@TwinShards]

Them: Block the flow of traffic to talk to each other. Citizen: Honk because of their unlawful behaviour. Them: Surprised pikachu face

[@kswindl]

Absolutely. The absence of the term "imminence" in the actual law is important as well. Even in a case NOT in an intersection, but on a regular roadway, blocking traffic presents a danger to the vehicle obstructing traffic as well as other motorists. Any cop would certainly say as much if they happened upon a random motorist doing this.

[@JaneDoe12573]

Dude could've gotten creamed by a semi.

[@southeastflnn5839]

@@JaneDoe12573 , 😂. Semi in downtown NYC. Most are not allowed in the inner city like that. I didn’t say all, I said most.

[@mercandog507]

@@southeastflnn5839 , most...so there’s some, right? Idiot.

[@uethello]

"danger". Doesn't two cars moving basically 0 miles per hour blocking the road *without any sort of safety lighting* seem to be a reasonable definition of "danger"?

[@ScanManDaMurka]

Yes. How does ATA not go with this angle? It makes much more sense. Cars sitting in traffic not moving is a danger. A car sitting at a great light is a danger. You're allowed to fucking honk.

[@crypto14]

Under VTL Section 1181 (a), “No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.”

[@gutar5675]

Not only that, but they are moving driving in between the lanes like they own the road. The guy on the right is halfway into his partner's lane and the guy on the left is driving on the yellow line

[@luismiguelruiz4290]

They looked like they were getting ready to race lol

[@Dante1282]

even more so imagine someone not paying and enough attention and slamming in his car cause he assume the cars are moving cause you know, its green.

[@brelanarchy8023]

Cop logic: You cannot honk at us when you're annoyed with us, but we can perform a retaliatory traffic stop when we're annoyed with you.

[@rath6599]

I love the fact the guy called his mom to tell on the other officers.

[@RYNOCIRATOR_V5]

if it works it works!

[@sped6954]

My Mommy is a cop and I'm telling on you.

[@trayvonparker4772]

Absolutely LOVE it! The power a mother possesses ❤

[@swashkiv7509]

And she immediately told him to stop talking bc she knows better than anyone how they’re ALL POS, even her.

[@Nabooru956]

I mean, the officers blocking him while his smack dab in the middle of an intersection is a perfect example of danger

[@William47345]

right. If anyone else was driving like that they would be pulled over and ticketed ASAP

[@theuncensoredaboriginal]

Exactly stopping abruptly in the middle of traffic 🙄 is dangerous and they didn't have any probable cause which the narrator completely skipped over.

[@lauralishes1]

It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.

[@TheDavedevil619]

This is what I was thinking

[@creampuffme]

Literally obstructing traffic, that's a safety violation you can be cited for.

[@topho6787]

Officer: “Your horn is only used for when there is immediate danger, not out of annoyance!” *Continues to pull over him out of annoyance*

[@reallyaznokidding]

Ditto

[@johnandmorehb3422]

In his defence, he couldn’t used the horn. Left him no other option.

[@WahlVids]

That's so subjective! Who needs to be in danger? What's the threshold of annoyance? Possible situation: pregnant wife in back about to give birth becomes the one in imminent danger rendering a honk for recklessly impeding traffic.

[@alphinmesa9945]

Thought this was america you can't honk your horn just for the sake of honking it? You gotta be in danger now?? What about every driver ever who's been sticking in rush hour traffic? What if he's just testing his horn? The average citizen isn't dumb we know some of the things that cops say are lies because of these mind games they play with you but since their the police we just have to believe them

[@MMCUSN]

@@alphinmesa9945 Yep a million drivers in NYC must use their horns every day with abandon and these two thin skinned jack holes wanna play herr Brown Shirt. Unbelievable.

[@jessodum3103]

The cops driving slowly basically forced Mr. Ortiz to block the intersection, which I think creates an imminent danger of collision.

[@blackalgorithmist000]

There's always an imminent danger with vehicles

[@damondriver6363]

@@blackalgorithmist000 that's funny, and true. But thats actually a REALLY good defense if they would have given him a ticket or charged him for this. It would have been instantly dropped most likely. Especially with this dashcam video

[@krugerstan]

it's definitely a continuous hazard, but sadly that isn't what "imminent" means. Imminent is more like "I'm about to be hit or about to hit you if no action is taken.

[@jessodum3103]

@@krugerstan Then it becomes subjective on how much time needs to be allowed for action to be taken. I feel like if I'm waiting to be "imminently" hit before I blow the horn, then there's not going to be enough time for the cars to move before I am hit.

[@krugerstan]

@@jessodum3103 I don't think it's very subjective. Most of us can look at a given situation and will agree on whether or not a danger is imminent, and most of us would agree that there was no imminent danger in this clip. That said, I'm not really disagreeing with you re: the way it ought to be - I think the law as stated is a bit silly/restrictive, and honking at a hazardous douchebag is highly appropriate in my opinion However, our personal opinions on when it is appropriate to honk won't really change the way courts will interpret the word "imminent," right? The police will win that one every time.

[@gunsnsails]

A NY cop telling a New Yorker not to use the horn. That's like telling a fish not to breathe water.🤣🤣🤣

[@PurebreedFLA]

How much "investigating" were these clowns doing if they both had time to pull this guy over and argue about the horn??🤥

[@bones343]

None. They were lying.

[@mrbmp09]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@loki2240]

@@mrbmp09 - It's like when officers claim that someone is interfering with an investigation, while they're filming 25 plus feet away. One or more officers leave the suspect to order the person recording to move back, stop recording, or leave the area completely.

[@byever1]

Stop resisting!

[@globetrotting2628]

He honked his horn legally due to that officer swerving out of his lane to talk to the other unmarked officer. That is a danger.

[@handson4580]

and blocking traffic

[@brucegwynn8509]

@@handson4580 I agree with you both , police officers get upset if they are ever told anything, they are the only ones able to give orders or make statements of authority

[@MrFrankielee1992]

@Uncomfortable Truth the law does not say imminent danger.

[@robsurfingtherabbithole1301]

@Uncomfortable Truth I don't know. Blocking traffic at night is quite likely creating an imminent danger. Car is coming up on that road won't be expecting vehicles to effectively be parked in the middle of the road

[@johndorian4078]

@Uncomfortable Truth It is imminent danger, if the cars behind him aren't alert that this is going on then they can cause an accident.

[@Lasershark666]

I’d say that two cars completely blocking all lanes of traffic is a danger to the other drivers on the road

[@pjhelbig]

I'd say those two individuals are a danger to others just in general.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Precisely.

[@Darkmortal100]

Don't forget it's also at night

[@rodh1404]

That's an excellent argument to bring up if this goes to court. It's generally useless to point this out to the police officer who is berating you for honking though, hence the point about staying silent. ANYTHING you say to a cop on the street is more likely to be used against you than accepted as justification for your actions. If you think a stop is unjust and you have evidence to prove it, just accept the ticket and bring your evidence to court. Or if there isn't any ticket, make a complaint, but be aware that your complaint is likely to be dismissed no matter how justified it is and how good the evidence you provide to support it.

[@Lasershark666]

@@rodh1404 the court room was made for a reason

[@renelopez6244]

I love the way the whole tone of the conversation changed as soon as he said his mother worked at 1 PP

[@kennybiel9688]

I love how being related to an NYPD officer gets you a different level of "service" from other NYPD officers. If that isn't corruption, I don't know what is.

[@mikesmith1181]

exactly! Just reinforces staying away from NYC. Don't spend your hard earned dollars where the taxes go towards supporting these tyrants.

[@JViello]

​@@mikesmith1181 Absolutely. I live in CT and used to love going to the city 15-25 years ago. Now? I only pass through if I have too these days. It's become the nations biggest sh*thole again!

[@santoscarrillo2996]

Well be in the club if not then don't get mad cause your not. I'm not I get pulled over I'm respectful but I'm also not going to let someone put hands on me either which I always let them know I am highly trained and ready for engagement should things get out of hand. I haven't had any issues so far 🤷 but I suppose the everyone should be treated equal makes sense to. Although everyone's opinion and service to community isn't so I do think some people should matter more than others.

[@AndrewUSA]

@@santoscarrillo2996 holy s*** your comment is pure cringe

[@santoscarrillo2996]

@@AndrewUSA Cool keep scrolling thanks 😊 👍

[@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309]

Cop: You don't honk the horn cause you're annoyed. Every single NEW YORKER: Since f**kin' when?!?!?!?!

[@mr.duanesharpe]

Exactly. It’s similar to a third world country when driving. Everyone on NY honks THIER horn. You’re not a NYker if you don’t.

[@AlGoYoSu]

For real. The sound of horns being honked in NYC is as consistant as the mating call of the brood x cicadas.

[@artnos]

Actually you can tickets for unnecessary honking

[@THEMATTHIAS225]

@@artnos but being that you normally don’t. I doubt this same officer was pulling over other people for their horns, it’s clear he initiated the stop because it was HE who got honked at, not that the driver was honking.

[@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309]

@@artnos You can get a ticket in Arizona ... for having a donkey sleep in a bathtub.

[@paulwilliams6753]

COP, “I can interrupt you, but you can’t interrupt me!”

[@maxfriis]

Just let the cop interrupt and never give him another chance to interrupt by remaining silent. If the cop likes to hear himself that much let him.

[@nemo6686]

Driver to his mom: "Once they showed their lights I stopped honking the horn." Cop (interrupting): "No you didn't." Driver shrugs, turns camera... Cop (dismissively): "I'm not arguing with you."

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

Geeze, law or not, they took that honk personally just based on their reactions. How fragile is their ego that a beep completely throws them over the edge lol.

[@JohnAbrahamOfArmenia]

This man really asked “How am I being discourteous?” in a discourteous tone

[@stevedavies1261]

That's "cop-logic"..."We dish it out shit, but Fck no, we don't take any shhit, here's my gun and badge that says so"

[@Jaywoody21]

Cops see themselves as superior beings so they think treating people like shit isn't being discourteous

[@maxlee6676]

im not racist. I have a black friend

[@africacarey]

@@maxlee6676 lmaooooo

[@africacarey]

@john juice haaaa so funny because I was just about to write this comment and I saw yours. Similar to what you said while he was screaming in a horrible tone and being very aggressive asking that question. I don't know what it is but when they become a cop they just become so angry.

[@georgeparrault9945]

They took time to pull him over apparently they weren’t busy on a case.

[@mrraymartinez]

Great point

[@ProPrince]

bruh yeah what lmao

[@TheTamsicles]

Seriously. They pulled him over out of pure ego. Just had to reprimand and berate him because god forbid anyone not bow to them. They just had to show their power over him.

[@DJColdCutz_]

Looool “you can’t use the horn unless there’s about to be a crash”... said by a NEW YORK police officer?? Did he just move there?!

[@lordvika2526]

just because you dont know the laws doesnt mean they dont effect you.

[@Itsmedicinal]

@@lordvika2526 umm people in New York honk all the damn times and cops don’t do pull everyone over for honking that’s what he means you obviously have never been to New York

[@THEMATTHIAS225]

I feel like a very New York phrase is apt: the officer was obviously mad up in his feelings

[@lordvika2526]

@Dan Bruv I grew up in NYC and lived their for over 30 years. I know exactly how NYC works. And i know in NYC cops over look the minor things that goes on because they dont have the man power to cover it all. But that doesnt change the fact that in NYC you can't honk your horn unless it is an emergency. Just because the police dont always enforce it doesnt mean that it isnt against the law.

[@lordvika2526]

@@Itsmedicinal I know what it meant....but thats just people who dont know the laws. I grew up in NYC and lived their for close to 40 years, I know that NYC police dont enforce the minor laws because they dont have the man power to do that. It still doesnt change the fact that its against the law and the police can enforce it if they want to. Just like jay walking ( crossing the street outside of a cross walk ) 99% of the times police dont enforce it but they can if they want to

[@AgitpropPsyop]

The mothers only request to her son: “I want you to be quiet.” That advice could save a lot of people a lot of heartache.

[@dlee2461]

The two officer’s tone tell a lot about their attitudes, egos, cockiness, shrewdness, etc... They are the reason the public mistrusts them. These officers have integrated a policing style with total disregard of the oath they took. They should not be wearing badges. They are more like lawless crooks.

[@robv5834]

Well they are New Yorkers. I immediately thought tone as well, but this is a pretty standard tone out in that area.

[@hintoflimetostitochip7978]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@drshepherd6567]

The criminals became smarter. If you cant beat the cops, become the cops!

[@JulioCNY]

Indeed but when they get punch In the face, Stab, shot or get call out outside their house or gym they walk away and are a different person. Especially when it comes to a lawsuit and they pretend to be innocent and were doing their jobs.

[@rodh1404]

When police officers routinely "investigate ourselves and find nothing wrong", and police unions defend police officer actions regardless of the right or wrong of those actions, it's inevitable you'll get situations like this. And Qualified Immunity only makes that bad situation even worse. Police Officers should be held up as an example of how to obey the laws and behave in public, but if everyone got out of their car and berated anyone who honks at them for creating an obstruction, there would hardly be a reason to drive a car in NYC.

[@supportcanzuk5287]

It’s kinda disgusting that even having a relative gives you a different edge to police, they clearly show their gang colours more than actual gangs

[@nyce6113]

You think if his mom wasn't a cop they would of acted differently?

[@alang4190]

@@nyce6113 100% lmao

[@CheddahSlammer]

Yeah they started acting less aggressive after he named his mom as a cop,

[@lloydchristmas4547]

@@nyce6113 yes

[@nyce6113]

@@alang4190 that's just sad, true but sad

[@patricksmart6678]

"Hes got it recorded so there is no reason to lie" implying if it was not recorded there is no reason to tell the truth. This is an all too common mind set with law enforcement.

[@LilFish0]

Yes, I had an officer pull me over saying I was going 65, I was not going 65, I was going 45, but I have no proof that I was going 45. Now I have a dash cam that also tracks my speed

[@johnhiggs5932]

Yet, the cop continues to lie. 🤔

[@fishburitto3914]

No he said it because cops are commonly accused of lying by rude peeps so he nipped that nonsense right in the bud.

[@asrieldartagnan9782]

The fact this comment has 278 likes is incredible. "Hes got it recorded so theres no reason to lie" 'Implying if it was not recorded theres no reason to tell the truth' That's not how logic works- his initial statement only serves to render the mom comfortable in believing what he says(since she's unlikely to believe his side over her sons) given that it's all recorded so lying would be pointless and therefore she doesn't need to doubt what he's saying. That doesn't imply that when there's no recording, there's not a reason to tell the truth. That's like if I was an honest person and someone recorded me at a party when a murder occurred and the police say 'hey, you did it' and I say 'nah man it wasn't me look, theres a recording so no need for me to lie' Does that mean the police can say 'ah this sounds like hes implying if there was no recording of him, then he'd have no reason to tell the truth...' Does that mean they can think you're a liar for having been on video? Of course not. Some sentences sound good and this is one of them, but it's disingenuous for people to view it as a valid statement

[@cristian-bull]

In a similar situation, If possible, I would hold the fact that I have a dash cam for as long as possible, just to see if it gets to record some lies.

[@broheme8922]

My biggest issue with this episode is learning that it's illegal to even tap your horn to notify the driver in front of you that they should take a short break from TikTok because the light has turned green.

[@samsprague3158]

Im not a lawyer or anything, but I think there’s a pretty good argument that any time someone is focusing on stuff other than driving and the other cars around them represents imminent danger.

[@broheme8922]

@@samsprague3158 Car at the head of a line that isn't moving is "imminent danger?" Your claim of not being a lawyer checks out.

[@GuidoLuzzi]

@@broheme8922 yes it is. it's a natural reaction to move when a light changes and if a car does not do so it presents danger. it can cause an accident 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@broheme8922]

@@GuidoLuzzi So reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. P.S. Love your signature.

[@lelandunruh7896]

​@@broheme8922 I actually am a lawyer. That could easily cause an accident. If a car is coming to an intersection and sees a green which has been holding for a few seconds he could easily become distracted and rear-end the car at the end of the line, which may well have already taken his foot of the brake and started crawling forward. Such a thing happening is unlikely in any one scenario, but given the millions of miles driven daily in this country you get huge aggregate numbers from such low-percentage happenings. Now, would that qualify as "imminent" in a New York court? I've no idea--I'm not licensed there. But it is far from a frivolous argument.

[@hankowitz]

“How am I being discourteous?” BY BLOCKING THE ROAD AND WASTING HIS TIME!

[@tanya5322]

And driving away while the citizen was still speaking and in mid-sentence. A tactic that can simultaneously be a de escalation move while coming off as being rude and disrespectful.

[@lauralishes1]

It's clear the stop was retaliatory. They shit themselves when they found out his mother was a cop.

[@nyce6113]

Exactly, their whole tone changed after talking to her

[@pjy326]

If 2 cops wanna discuss details of an investigation while driving in 2 separate cars pulling TF OVER is common sense

[@Ribbityibzki]

Or, you know, use the radios that are in the cars to talk to each other.

[@JillyBean860]

Anyone else doing that would get pulled over and given a ticket.

[@billmcdonald180]

While having your own dashcam may be used against you, the mere fact that you know you have one will probably alter your own behavior, even before an encounter.

[@toreole5831]

"noone is being discurteous to you" while he sounds like hes been extremely pissed for days

[@tomz1daful]

It's the Gods honest truth, everyone in NYC talks like they're pissed at someone, unless you're getting finessed. Then it's like Kramer from Seinfeld being happy when he's smoking a cigar.

[@elonmusk8711]

Roid rage

[@thedrunkzaku]

That's just new York for you, everyone with an accent always sounds mad lol.

[@danjtams]

@@thedrunkzaku especially when they talk at 30 decibels above normal average talking.

[@Whatchamawhozit]

@@thedrunkzaku That is not just NYC it is everything that encompasses the great New York metropolitan area which stretches from New Haven, CT to Parsippany, NJ we all sound pissed off (From south of New Haven, 30 mins north of NYC)

[@chogokin666]

This is a big problem in NY, undercovers try to blend in then they get pissed when they aren't recognized or treated with the "respect" the think they're entitled to.

[@SpringoStar]

Yes it is. It's even a large issue on LI too. This footage infuriates me.

[@nalapena5354]

This ain’t a issue out on CT we know when and where a cop is at all times 😅

[@nalapena5354]

In *

[@AJ-ew7kr]

@@SpringoStar yeah I’ve seen a 03 mustang as uc

[@GermanShepherdDaphne]

Shit in NYC they honk right before light turns green so people don't sit there.

[@danielmulholland5869]

The most important lesson from this entire video is that when you ask a cop how to proceed with your dealings with the police, the first advice they give is for you to be silent. They don't even trust themselves.

[@DrHavok1]

no cops will talk they know better silence is absolutely the only argument to be made... am I free to go is about the only thing you should say maybe am I being detained but that's almost always a yes other than that silence.

[@riograul2043]

Underrated comment

[@tylerbakeman]

It’s actually because it’s your 5th amendment right to be silent- your words can be used against you to build a case.

[@neil_mch]

"They don't even trust themselves." With very good reason.

[@david-hp9hk]

Ask your mother and see what advice she gives.

[@gman1550]

“Keep your hands on the wheel”. “License and registration”.

[@themotorhino1331]

Isn't impeding traffic considered imminent danger? Horn was valid to warn other drivers of the pork blocking the road.

[@zacokick]

Ya especially heading through a intersection...

[@raymonko]

I don't think this assumption is correct given the video recording and the drivers statement he was not using the horn to avoid danger

[@davidsnyder7341]

@@raymonko think he means when justifying the use of the horn in court

[@Delimon007]

Yes it is, that's what makes this entire thing funny af

[@cranberrysauce61]

as some one who was in a car that was rear-ended at a green light due to people not moving, i would argue impeding the flow of traffic can be considered cause of danger.

[@johnfriday5169]

These ego filled cops had to stop their "investigation " and let this citizen know who's boss.

[@bamahama707]

It's NOT them, assuredly. Camera busted their sorry butts.

[@claudballs2808]

Where's the disconnect with the public 🤔? Oh here it is!

[@PinkBunnyCorporation]

I think they were investigating traffic stops. Honestly it seemed like they were phising for people to react to their illegal traffic behavior.

[@darwinawardcommittee]

@@PinkBunnyCorporation No. They were speaking off radio. Probably plotting something illegal like divvying up the extortion bag.

[@supermccnasty4176]

As soon as an officer acts immoraly, like blatantly lying, they should receive an automatic F

[@AshiStarshade]

It doesn't have to be lying. We know that witnesses are unreliable. Officers are also not 100% reliable.

[@142doddy]

I think he saves an F for the worst cases as a way to distinguish between being lacking knowledge/courtesy, being downright belligerent/incompetent, and being actively malicious like use of unnecessary or excessive force or arrest

[@philmienus2382]

@@142doddy based on the videos ive watched he reserves f whenever a illegal arrest is committed by the cops

[@michaelsiddle837]

And an automatic dismissal and jail sentence. Police must be beyond reproach.

[@greenleaftreefrog]

Who gives a F@$k about the stupid grade. Just show me some resolution at the end of the video. Let me know that ego maniac gets what he deserves.

[@rafaelA9781]

Every encounter I had with NYPD cops was always aggressive in the way they talk to you, they don't let you talk or they talk over you, even one told me I should address him as SIR. I said to him, I only address older men as SIR and I could be your father. Their attitude changed when talking to Mom cause they don't know how high on rank can she be. And that basically save him from a ticket or several.

[@purselmer5931]

If that is the NY ordinance, why aren't there hundreds (if not thousands) of tickets issued to NY City residents every single day then?

[@jamesf8507]

its really an underutilized police funding tool

[@snerdterguson]

I'm so confused by this "law". Am I committing a violation when I honk the horn to let someone know I'm out front waiting for them?

[@RonJDuncan]

@@snerdterguson Actually? Yes. Not that it's ever really enforced.

[@jeffreymcurtis]

Maybe because they don't know that it caries a $350.00 fine?

[@ОченьДобрыйЧеловек-е1ж]

Mom always Mom!....

[@pitapat1161]

It’s gonna end up with “we have investigated our officers and found nothing wrong” ALL THE TIME

[@johnmayo5358]

Because of the thin blue line. Police officers apparently NEVER do anything illegal.

[@heart4011]

I have a feeling that NYPD would be more strict on bad actors but current GOV might be with them so who knows

[@scotty2hotty232]

Then she makes a more continuous complaint. Being blue helps

[@LiLBitsDK]

might go differently this time since his mom works at police HQ ;-) just saying

[@dzim8822]

The officers should have received an "F". They were likely breaking the law when they were blocking the roadway. Then they tried to cite a civilian when they were the ones who broke the law.

[@kurtwetzel154]

Yes a F the stop was due to upset egos and retaliation. They wanted to write a ticket but realized the camera recording and didn’t. There was no need for the stop the 1st brief talk with the cops was all that was needed.

[@xmarine73]

They were both impeding traffic. They were both sharing a lane. The car on the right went straight in a right turn only lane. They again impeded traffic to discuss the traffic law, prior to pulling him over. Yeah, they collectively had a minimum of 6 traffic violations before pulling him over for his 1 violation - if it was a violation.

[@admthrawnuru]

He's gotta reserve that for when they pull someone out and beat them claiming they "resisted." The bar is super low, so the grade curve is messed up.

[@ufffd]

I want to agree but there are some officers so terrible that I think we need to reserve the F for those cases, just so it doesn't lose meaning

[@xmarine73]

@@ufffd nah. If you do that then you're losing track of just how many cops actually earned the F

[@HuugyBearInc]

Great video that explains why the right to remain silent is important

[@americancultureaudits]

He honked his horn because of the dangers involved in blocking traffic on a busy road.

[@frankiegutierrez5737]

I love how when the cop tried to explain to the Mom how the honking of the horn was a violation, Mom said, "Oh, okay -- we'll go ahead with the CCRB complaint." Within 30 seconds she had had enough of the cop's b.s.

[@jarrettharper8313]

She knew it was true, and that's why she told her son to calm down, because if the cop wanted to he could have put the guy in court and won the case. After she heard that, she realized there was no point in arguing. It was just a matter of calming her son down so he didn't get in further trouble.

[@facundosterzerforino1704]

@@jarrettharper8313 No, the honk was justified

[@LuckyBaldwin777]

They were blocking traffic which might have resulted in Mr. Ortiz's car getting rear-ended. There's your 'danger' for you.

[@richardbaker308]

Exactly

[@TheHumbleLOUD]

Even the NYPD straighten up when Mom is on the line.

[@legacymaster9580]

His mom instructed him to remain silent, however when the average citizen does that the cops become irate then retaliate.

[@salvagemonster3612]

Mom did that cause she knows smart ass son.

[@JDL16]

"Just let it be" Proceeds to pull him over to argue about a horn further

[@Fireball006]

ikr

[@tryhardfinessedyou]

Lolol

[@iamjakepaul944]

😂🤣😂

[@Malicteal]

“We’ve investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong.”

[@dero2209]

😂😂this is essentially the entire police force in the united states

[@gauravagochiya4218]

That’s essentially every corporation in America ever

[@MusicalSavior23]

That's a very original comment

[@arinerm1331]

I gave you a Like on this comment, even though it requires a small correction. "We investigated ourselves, and found that we are heroes."

[@ramborigs]

"We will be sending our selves on paid vaca anyways for the emotional stress cause to ourselves."

[@Bombadil-ez9ns]

I've been to NYC exactly once. While I was there, we were the second car stopped at a red light. There was no room for the car in front of us to go even if the light was green. None of that stopped the guy in the car behind us from leaning on his horn. In my life, I've never seen that level of impatience anywhere else.

[@DunkanWinter]

"I'm in the middle of a big important investigation so I'm drpping that to waste 30 minutes over a citizen honking us"

[@jeffdredd1172]

Also, they are unmarked vehicles apparently working a case and they lit up the whole street and let everyone know they were there because of a honk...🤔

[@pringers3831]

Super important until their ego is on the line.

[@c.b.411]

@@jeffdredd1172 haaaaa I didn't even think of that. Just crap 'policing' across tbe board

[@seekndestroy6678]

We should either build a wall around California and New York City, or chisel them off from the mainland and send them off to sea. Merge them into an island.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Dikheads.

[@smj_]

"You honked your horn." "Uh, yeah, you were in immediate danger of getting rear-ended."

[@niggo7224]

Yes its very likely to happen

[@skiddy1984]

Or even he was, he was going through an intersection as well with crosswalks so based on their driving they weren't paying attention 100% so sounding the horn was letting pedestrians know there was danger. That danger being two cars not paying attention.

[@atmas1337]

Thats a dishonest lie.

[@Domtronic]

@@atmas1337 As opposed to an honest lie?

[@fakshen1973]

If an officer pulled you over for stopping in the middle of a street to chat with another person... they would say it's because you're causing a dangerous situation on the roadway.

[@hawkshot867]

I'm pretty sure blocking traffic constitutes an imminent threat to people's safety and improper operation of the vehicle. Also, ladies and gentlemen of NY: your taxpayer money hard at work lol.

[@awrebyawe]

Yup! Driving slowly can easily cause a crash

[@emeraldkat2167]

@@awrebyawe This is a serious issue, especially in heavy traffic or on highways (ie higher traffic speeds generally).

[@jamal_wallace3]

I can think of a million ways all this altercation could’ve been resolved with less than a minute polite conversation.

[@BionicLemming]

If he was stopped in traffic and talking to another driver, he'd be cited for impeding traffic. But they have radios to talk with

[@harrybell2798]

My thoughts exactly your in unmarked cars looking for someone and you stop in the middle of the street and talk instead of using radios.

[@nyce6113]

@@JohnTheRevelat0r they were probably trying to decide between general Tao chicken or sesame chicken

[@SlingKokWell]

This “officer” should not be getting paid to do this.

[@Nick210]

Two cars blocking an active roadway seems like imminent danger in my book.

[@ladymc7563]

Those same cops would give anyone else a ticket for blocking traffic like that

[@adrycough]

yea they're so busy looking out for the perp they claim to be searching for while sitting next to each other slowing down all traffic and then act all petty pulling him over for honking at them

[@stevejette2329]

Joker - I would be afraid to get hit from behind on a dark street.

[@raymondmendez9832]

Regardless of whose right or wrong I save headaches like this one by biting my tongue and just waiting the extra couple of seconds then moving on

[@Kamidake83]

Arguably the officer was causing a dangerous situation by impeding traffic like that.

[@charlierobles316]

Go tell him that

[@LordBillington42]

If cops get to pull people over for going 55 in a 60 because it's suspicious/potentially dangerous then the police driving in this case definitely falls into that bracket.

[@DeltaDanner]

“You don’t honk your horn due to annoyance!” *flashes lights due to annoyance*

[@erich6860]

right.

[@Zhippy]

Hardly a fair comparison, Ortiz broke the (stupid) law when he decided to press the horn, and he didn't just press it, he HELD it until the blue lights started flashing before him. Getting him to stop was, as far as I can tell, unfortunately a reasonable move by the officer.

[@bigbrisk8423]

@@Zhippy one could argue he didnt break a law also because driving slow poses a hazard just as speeding does let alone they were clearly talking to eachother while driving beside eachother, therefore causing a hazard as well, so this man imo was perfectly within his rights to honk the horn at theese cops.

[@IVEGOTPEEINMYEYE]

The fact that the cop said "no you didnt" when he clearly did shows how much of a standoffish us and them mentality cops tend to have.

[@SS1015X3]

Some of these cops let their emotions get in the way a lot and its very upsetting

[@lordvader3640]

That stop was all about ego and intimidation tactics. This is the kind of stuff that makes people distrust police

[@101trm]

How can you give them a C-, when you yourself stated "they verbally distorted the facts"...distorting facts is an immediate F!

[@JackgarPrime]

Well the cop was technically correct regarding the horn when it comes to ordinance, so he got a couple points there. Even though that's not how most people actually use the horn in real practice.

[@johntuff]

@@JackgarPrime they're impeding traffic, especially on a busy street like that. Plus they're supposed to be carrying out an investigation they seem to forget about, because he got his ego bruised.

[@JackgarPrime]

@@johntuff Oh I don't agree with the cops here getting on him about it, I'm just pointing out a technicality in which they said something that had some truthfulness to it. They're still wrong in principle, of course. And everything else the cop was saying is a total mess anyway.

[@johntuff]

@@JackgarPrime oh okay gotcha

[@yawakoben]

distorting the facts are legal for police🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Nixonitus]

Honking at a slow moving vehicle is a warning, as it could result in imminent collision

[@shekharmoona544]

Especially with vehicles behind you.

[@matthewgiangarra3535]

Cops can give tickets to drivers not driving fast enough because they are a danger. That it the EXACT reason for the law. Yet honking at someone causing dangerous condition with too low a speed it an offence. SMH. There is a ticket for EVERYTHING.

[@William47345]

@@matthewgiangarra3535 all BS laws so they can make "fake" but legit reasons to search minorities,

[@tdog652041]

@@shekharmoona544 which is every minute of every day.

[@vijyakomaragiri4987]

That tone switch when the mom comes on the phone!! And the mom's (a senior cop) first line of advice is to stop talking, be silent! This is one of the very educational videos on this channel.

[@jamesmcfierson]

I counted the cop being sarcastic 5 times, interupting him 9 times, lying atleast 3 times, and yelling at him 4 times. There is no reason for a police officer to act that toxic twoards another person for just honking their horn. This dude has no right to wear the badge. He should be put on probation and forced to take anger management classes.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Big head, big mouth, garbed in civvies. Readiness to blow cover at the drop of percieved query to their buffoonery.

[@Jay.McCarty]

Sounds like a "C-" huh? 🙄

[@huasohvac]

they are new yawkers. they cant be anything other than toxic

[@kingofpilgrims368]

Cops have such a disgusting sense of pride and it’s gotta be fixed

[@SGTRandyB]

“Keep your hands there, license and registration.” -Just follow instructions and yOu’LL bE FiNe

[@thefantasticmuggzyfox3794]

that scared me a bit, thought this would turn into a killer cop vid

[@lizcollinson2692]

That always makes me cringe

[@DOLfirst]

Ikr?

[@nyce6113]

He was reaching for a gun!

[@KristineS73]

Too scary cause your never fine.......

[@thefinalgrind]

"YOU CAN'T HONK YOUR HORN BUT I CAN IMPEDE TRAFFIC! UNDERSTOOD PEASENT!?!"

[@bessieking3797]

😳😊😊

[@kimmoore9205]

The 2 unmarked cars we’re driving over the ghost line which could cause an accident. A honk would be necessary at that point.

[@alastermyst]

"His use of the horn likely violated local statutes." Not from what you read unless I missed something. The horn honk obviously and clearly would serve the purpose of warning. Namely warning others nearby that there is abnormal and therefore unsafe traffic conditions, in this case two assholes being quasi-parked and ignoring rules, laws, and standard etiquette of vehicle operation.

[@evelghostrider]

The horn was honked because he felt there was immediate danger from one or both of those cars 👍 Thats what the legislation stated 👍

[@EarthIsNotFlat]

@@evelghostrider The low traffic speeds and ubiquity of stop and go traffic there make that not a credible argument, but you can try it in court and see if it flies lol.

[@TokesTv]

@@EarthIsNotFlat slow flow of traffic because of these two officers at the front. His argument would stand

[@hunterf.836]

This comment needs more likes!

[@EarthIsNotFlat]

@@TokesTv If any cause for ‘slow flow of traffic’ justifies a honk then NY streets would be nothing but horns day and night. That’s unreasonable. Since reasonableness is a component of the statute such honking doesn’t fly. His better argument is to fight the ticket on the basis of the code being vague so they can fix/clarify it to codify the need for the danger to be eminent which is clearly how it’s enforced and how most reasonable people interpret it.

[@c5dynomite]

This is actually the first poor judgement call I've seen from an ATA video, that horn was 100% justified compared to most of the things people honk for. They were impedeing traffic, he honked to warn them of potential danger (someone not paying attention behind them, etc) and when they showed they were cops he stopped. Then the cop starts talking to him like they werent doing anything wrong. Cops need to be ego-checked before becoming cops.

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

1000% agree, it’s dangerous to hold up traffic at a green light without cop cars with their flashers on blocking traffic which obviously wasn’t happening!

[@atherasdin]

I'm super late, but not to mention it's new york traffic, those fuckers are the most impatient drivers. I think this would 100% hold up in a court room that the horn was used to warn other drivers of harm, even subconsciously.

[@david-hp9hk]

The video didn't commit to a judgment. It said he wasn't definitely in the right or wrong so talking isn't helping.

[@amiraameera8302]

You would think an undercover car should try to behave like regular vehicles, i.e. not blocking traffic, not shouting across lanes, etc.

[@MrSigmatico]

@AuditTheAudit Could it not be argued that the blocking of traffic the cops were doing was a hazard and as such the use of the horn was legal?

[@jayres6372]

I didn't know horn honking was such a high priority for NYPD with all that real crime going on.

[@mezmerizer0266]

Horns are more dangerous than all those guns and thugs.

[@skitzoid8202]

Anyone who's been in new York City knows that horns are used for no reason at all every second of the day

[@themadhi-hatter6849]

Omg, just think about all the other helpless horns out there that need real help when this dude is honking wolf!

[@BlacqueJacqueShellacque_]

Imagine if the NYPD issued a ticket to every driver that honked their horn in NYC when there wasn't "immanent danger."

[@aennaenn7468]

The city might be able to afford actual public services...

[@incredible_timmy_horton1726]

@@lempiralives right. Base salary is like 75k

[@paul.van.santvoord1232]

Every moment in NY trafic is a terrifying one.

[@Timmy2384]

@@incredible_timmy_horton1726 that's poverty in NYC.

[@matthardy6101]

*imminent

[@johnz5055]

That is a great mom and a great officer who holds other officers accountable Blocking traffic is considered a danger that is why its against the law to obstruct traffic

[@lapislazarus8899]

I had a cop honk at me and swerve his car towards mine like was going to wreck because I was going 57 in a 55, and I was keeping up with the traffic I was traveling in. Now these freeways have been increased to 65, in town, and everyone goes at least 80. I've had people drive up my tailpipe! I don't feel comfortable going 95 with everyone getting on and off every mile there's the major streets.

[@MolonFrikenLabe]

I am generally a pretty "back the blue" kind of guy. But this channel has me rethinking that position more and more.

[@Tadnado]

You should check out james freeman great auditer

[@pfclex6737]

You should never blindly support anyone

[@djstiles2001]

@@pfclex6737 this

[@typicalnewyorker5993]

It’s annoying tho it’s either completely fuck the police or the police are angels and can’t do anything wrong. There’s nothing in the middle

[@MrJreed1000]

@@pfclex6737 fractal statement.. good job

[@dylan6386]

“If his license is good he’s good”, the officer had no reason to run his license soo🤷🏽‍♂️

[@BDC040905020]

Officers can run a license plate for any reason as there is no expectation of privacy regarding your plate on a vehicle on public roadways

[@ethanstephens8293]

@@BDC040905020 he said license not license plate

[@BDC040905020]

@@ethanstephens8293 ahhhh my mistake

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

New York is a stop and ID state sadly. Biden made sure they not only allowed it, but also expressly stated he believed that it was needed to stop people of color in low income neighborhoods proving the law is racially and socioeconomically motivated, which makes it illegal.

[@iamhectorperez]

@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM source?

[@pvvv888]

This is straight up F for both the officers. You need to have such huge egos to just switch on the lights like just because someone honked at you doing something wrong. Just immense showcase of ego and power trip.

[@SSTVdd]

Not just a power trip- they should serve jail time and lose their jobs immediately for abuse of power.