August Pokemon Presents News Already Here 2024 | Podcast

[@GOCastPodcast]

Thanks for having me on! Have the best time at Worlds 😁

[@UltraBall23]

I just realized that Pokémon GO will be celebrating their 10 year anniversary during Pokémon’s 30th anniversary…

[@GumCow]

So will sun and moon. Time flies

[@AdeptCharon]

Bobby: "they don't have to reinvent the game again" Gamefreak: "hold my Bulbasaur buble tea" I believe at several times in the history of the series, we've had Gamefreak staff pretty much saying they try to start from scratch with each game, (and I'm paraphrasing from memory, these aren't quotes) as a way of not restricting themselves to things they've done in the past or how they've approached specific aspects each time, to allow even the repeating aspects to be reconsidered and refreshed in some way.

[@KaiPerspective]

Steve obsessed with not having patterns as other people obsessed with patterns, the episode xD Realistically, who knows what they're gonna do but good speculation in both ways. Loved the episode as always, even if I don't play or care about pokemon sleep. I could listen to 10 hours of this podcast about the topic just because it's ISE.

[@PKMNcast]

Thanks Kai!

[@orangeoblivion]

I’ve been replaying Sword recently, and I had all the same thoughts Steve was laying out

[@PKMNcast]

Flying, climbing, and jumping was a game changer

[@icaruskidm]

I will defend pmd till the day I die cause I think pmd explorers of sky is the best pokemon spin off period and I pray one day it is remade cause its so fun. I'm sorry you don't enjoy the style of game Steve, I will admit that it is alot and it is grindy so I can understand if someone sees it as monotonous but exploring a mystery dungeon with my four little dudes is the purest form of serotonin. I hope you like the next on they eventually make. And if they add shinys to a pmd explorers of sky remake? It's over for me, I won't touch grass for a month. Great cast as usual!

[@PKMNcast]

I gave Explores of the Sky like 2 hours. I'd like to see it get the DX treatment. I'd try again.

[@eeeeggnog._.]

Explorers of sky is not only the best spin off, but the best pokmeon game period imo

[@PKMNcast]

No it’s not, calm down

[@awworrell]

One thing I would point out is that the conversation around the games release is all projects we know about. They could have something else in the pipeline that we don't know anything about they could surprise us with. Likewise, they could lean on the web console too especially if they integrate into pokemon home. I tend to be in the camp that legends will come early and gen 10 mid to late next year though its possible they could throw a curve ball.

[@AdeptCharon]

The only way I used the team swap main skill as a strategy, was when I ran Raikou with a full Electric team, but before tapping on the Raikou, I'd change the rest to mons that gather ingredients I need.... which was kind of tedious anyway though, as too many times Raikou wouldn't have the skill charged up lol

[@ABadSpiritToken]

I think for Z-A, they gave us no trailer because it will be on the new Nintendo console and Nintendo don't want any footage from the console shown yet. I think we will see Z-A whenever Nintedo direct drops for the console.

[@darknorthstar01]

I don't doubt that ZA will be on the new console, but I think it will still be available for the Switch. A dual release like some past Zelda and Mario games. In which case they could always show footage from the Switch version. Unless they don't have anything ready yet.

[@ABadSpiritToken]

@@darknorthstar01 Possibly, or Nintendo just want to hold it back for their big game announcements for the console to get people hyped. Who knows. We will hopefully find out but I am happy to wait for a more polished game this time out.

[@tom.bowen2212]

@@ABadSpiritToken It has been released for preorder on the Switch and not on a new platform, they will not release a second round of preorders for a different console as it will kill sales and piss off the loyal fan base who have already pre-ordered. we already know that Switch games should be backwards compatible with the Switch 2, so while it may be released with the console or nearby, it is very unlikely. They likely haven't released a serious trailer yet because the game is not in a fit state for this given we are so far away from the release date. expect a non-gameplay trailer six months before release, some gameplay 3-4 months out, and a big gameplay trailer about a month out.

[@PKMNcast]

It has been confirmed that Z-A will be on the current Switch

[@khabirgaiarsa7896]

one thing GF does and never gets recognized for is reinventing the core series games each generation

[@Harerazer]

Steve, you don't get it. The Pokemon Company is consistently inconsistent. 😂😂😂

[@HelloFrisco]

We need to get Steve to do a mystery dungeon play through on stream 😁

[@PKMNcast]

Oh boy 😩

[@jussinbebussin]

I'm with Bobby in terms of thinking ZA will be earlyish 2025. We know Nintendo said they won't be talking about the Switch successor until March 2025, and I expect that to release in time for Holiday 2025. Could ZA be a dual release for both Switch and Switch 2? Sure, but with how much fans have dragged Game Freak for SV's performance I think all of their focus for a new console will hopefully be a fully polished Gen 10 in 2026. Seems pointless to release ZA Nov 2025 and then compete with sales for a new console if ZA is strictly a switch game.

[@floracoffea]

I'm just so glad someone said it: literally no generation has followed a release pattern, at all! (tbh I doubt things are separated internally by generations the same way fans do it). There are some broad strokes, but yeah, it's impossible to predict game releases. ^^;

[@SpookyBento]

Purely based in nostalgia and love for the series, I am SO GLAD that Red Rescue Team is coming to the eShop! Red Rescue Team is not the best PMD game, that would be Explorers of Sky for me. HOWEVER, we should consider the implications that a Gameboy title release to the eShop could mean. If they're willing to port Red Rescue Team on to the Switch eShop (which I will definitely buy since I was a Blue Rescue Team girly back when they released) then there is no reason they couldn't re-release other GBA titles or other original versions of the DS PMD games. I am comfortable continuing to wait for FireRed/LeadGreen and/or Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald to be added to the eShop. (Ideally with Home Support or a link to another Switch title like the 3DS virtual console Red/Blue/Yellow etc games did.) Those games do not step on Let's Go's toes since the game experience is very different. Reselling the games wouldn't print money per say, but for nostalgic adults whose physical game's internal batteries have long since died, I would KILL for eShop versions I could purchase and keep forever. If they went a step further and added the events for Legendaries/Mythicals into those games like how Crystal had the Celebi thing? (Old Sea Map, Naval Rock, the Deoxys one - events I never got to experience because I was like 10 and didn't know what Serebii.net was yet.) The games already exist, surely it doesn't take a ton of resources to port them onto the eShop and allow people to buy them again? If those games are locked behind the enhanced subscription service my brain would melt into soup and I would shrivel into a corn cobb. Re-release each GBA game for a flat fee and let your adult fans who grew up with those games experience them again.

[@scififan21]

Steve not liking Mystery Dungeon for shame. LOL Clearly I'm a bit biased though as they are my favorite spinoff series.

[@PKMNcast]

Mine is Quest or Shuffle I think

[@scififan21]

@@PKMNcast I liked Shuffle never played Quest though.

[@Lucario1121]

That's probably the main reason why the retro Pokemon games still aren't on Switch Online, they want to find some way for it to work through Home at the same time, and I don't think its possible for Switch Online and Pokemon Home to read each other

[@thejaredfuller]

I am fully convinced with the Switch successor, Pokemon is going to release their own subscription akin to NSO and the older games getting Bank compatibility. Maybe a tiered system, one being just bank access, another being like select pokemon games + bank, and then another higher tier being all of the older games, released periodically. Something like one tier at launch you get Red/Blue and then higher tier you get R/B/Y + more bank storage or something. I think recurring revenue rather than paying a flat fee for old Pokemon games and tying it with Bank would make it worth Pokemon to do this.

[@TechnoHighlander-00]

Do we really need an August presentation? Perhaps not, but I would be satisfied if they gave us a starter reveal for Z-A and show what type of Era it is set in. Waiting until next Pokemon Day is a bit too long a wait, but maybe they are coinciding the gameplay reveal with the Switch 2 reveal whenever that is.

[@AdeptCharon]

Love the speculation about when Z-A and/or Gen-X is coming! The crucial unknown factor that's missing in it: "what kind of Generation is Gen-X?" What I mean is that the release cycle surrounding Gen-X could have very different targets depending on whether Gen-X is more an overall expansion of the past generations (Gen-2/4/6), or more of a game with its strong own personality (Hoenn, Alola, Galar..), or a completely unusual generation in some sense 🤔

[@barkumo]

47:25 I agree with Bobby on this one. I think we are getting Z-A before Pokémon Day 2025.

[@veryprofessionalpokemontrainer]

It’s very good for Young!!! Very Professional 👌

[@UltraBall23]

Also, Pokémon releases a custom console for their games (excepts Arceus). Gen 10 custom new Nintendo console for the 30th Anniversary. We definitely aren’t getting Gen 10 in 2025 when Nintendo has JUST released their next console.

[@awworrell]

it could be a launch title

[@Landez97]

I still believe the theory that BDSP and Legends Arceus got delayed by 2 months due to covid. That plus New Pokémon Snap were supposed to carry Pokémon all thru the 25th anniversary year. Just doesn't make sense otherwise to release them so close together and also so close to Pokémon day.

[@PKMNcast]

Yup. Moving BDSP up by 2 months puts it exactly on its 15 anniversary and then that moved Legends to Nov as the Christmas game.

[@PkmnRangerOllie]

Bobby not backing down to mystery dungeon-hater-stove, iconic

[@namanjotsinghns]

I think Z-A is releasing in March-April period the marketing cycle will probs begin in Oct-Nov then They don't need to have anything major for Pokemon Day next year to be honest (remember 2020) I think gen 10 announcement will coincide with 30th anniversary for switch successor and release in November (November is too good of a period to let go)

[@Lucarioguild7]

Speaking of breaking pattern if they did nothing for the 30 but guaranteed that gen 10 would be polished I'd take that trade any day

[@tylerhjensen4783]

I do love Scarlet/Violet - the performance is the only thing holding it back. Going back in other games like mentioned in the podcast - I miss the feel of Scarlet/Violet.

[@auraswan951]

How would the Nintendo Online Sub work with Home connectivity? Personally, I think Pokemon is going to "pivot" away from NtO and instead "port" the Main games directly to Home and have them be Sub based.... Odds are it will be tiered like base is still the single box, the $20/yr is all the storage, but a new tier will probably house the games (gens 2-7... Gen 1 is Let's Go). This way it is connected with itself and not trying to reach a different service that may not have been paid for for the current month....

[@Lucarioguild7]

I don't know if I buy the early 2025 release for legends but on the other hand Steve thinking they're not going to show anything for it during the presents is also wild

[@ihatemimes2243]

Is hannah okay? I havent seen them on the podcast for a little while now.

[@PKMNcast]

She'll be back soon!

[@UncalibratedAimbot]

Looks like you accidentally left in some of the description from a past episode in the copy/ paste

[@PKMNcast]

Fixed, thank you

[@UncalibratedAimbot]

@@PKMNcast no problem. Every once in a while I go into a video description to see if there are any goofs like that since there’s no way someone who posts as consistently as you wants to check every word every time

[@Sinvallis]

To the legends za/gen 10 part I don't think it's good for anime, movies, merch and competitive play to wait for 30s anniversary for Gen 10😅 My guess is that we get Gen 5 remakes in between aswell like the OR/AS ones and that competitive play will continue on them with maybe mega + crystal mechanic at the same time with the new ZA mons aswell. But who knows I only think we will not see competitive play until 30s anniversary on Scarlet and violet

[@MasonatorMassa]

Is there a world in which Gen 10 is influenced by a possible next gen Switch or some kind of hardware change from Nintendo? Which if anything would push it's release even further out

[@vaniladragon]

I am recording. Bah bah bah

[@BlueBluez]

I found this by random cause i wanted to see if Legends ZA presents got announced but nope, I guess we are getting nothing until the end of this month or 2025 Pokemon Day, Not being rude but that Bobby guy is on copium saying it's coming early, Looks like they are taking there time with ZA and if we get a trailer it be a small one showing some gameplay, The trainers you play as and the starters, My fav spin offs are PMD and the Colosseum games but i know a new one will never come out lol.

[@VictorEnes]

58:12 Yes I agree Gen 9 needed more time.

[@the_dailies]

currently playing through PLA for the first time (love the music, the art and the storyline even though i suck at battling) and it's got me hyped for PLZA. some more details (early vs late 2025, sketches/stills, or even confirming era/timeline) at Worlds would be amazing but i just hope they solidly build on what they achieved with Arceus so however much time that takes, GF should take.

[@AdeptCharon]

Aside from not having ever touched GO and not wanting to buy something that is technically a gadget for GO.. It's not that I wouldn't want to spend the money on a plus plus (oh yeah, the stupid name definitely isn't helping either lol), it's that the normal way to play Sleep feels good to me as is (I mean, when I'm done tracking I'm excited to do the research anyway), and I'm not seeing how the plus plus would improve it. If anything, I keep seeing people remark how they've pressed the wrong button and lost a sleep session or whatever, and are then buying... cases for it? I get that the convenience would be that the phone isn't "in-use" while tracking, but over the past year of playing Sleep, starting to track sleep on my phone = you're done using the phone for the night, has been a very good thing for me (despite having had some of the worst sleep in my life due to a problematic flat I finally managed to move out of recently)

[@AdeptCharon]

"you NEED to leave the app open, which is kind of annoying" It's almost like the app wants you to sleep 😎😎

[@starchildluke]

I don't have any predictions for when Z-A might come out but the whole "experimentation" vibes that TPC run on frustrate me. They don't have to follow patterns but even a little consistency and structure would be nice. I know they need buzz but it's annoying (along with the wild predictions and theories being pushed as fact because someone read between lines that weren't even there lol)

[@EpicRandomness555]

1:05:53 My Scarlet experience has had almost none of the lag that most people seem to get. My first really big lag spike was after getting into the Teal Mask. I’ve never fallen through the world and I can run around on Koraidon in the rain just fine. It’s also the first Pokemon game I played lol. I played Sword for a little bit, right at the beginning of the game, and I felt very restricted. I couldn’t go anywhere, I don’t actually love being forced to battle trainers. I love the Galar region and it’s Pokemon the most of any game, but I like playing Scarlet more. But I like playing Legends Arceus even more. PL:A is my second Pokemon game. So probably my favorite game will be a Legends Galar game, right now I can’t fairly say I have a favorite, I just have outside opinions on games.

[@tonystar73]

YES! Bring back streetpass 100% I loved going around and getting those hits for new puzzle pieces. 😊

[@JakeSteinberg]

I am curious about where the 1.5 million number is coming from for the sales of Red -> Crystal on 3DS. I can find data that says Red -> Yellow sold over 1.5 million within the first year, before the other games had even been released on 3DS, so I don't THINK it's an accurate representation of sales on that platform. Further, TPC has the pokemon fanbase a lot better trained with digital/eshop products now than they did on 3DS. The general 3DS consumer also wasn't super active on the eShop, either. It's well-known that the virtual console pokemon games were constantly on the top of those sales charts, even if those numbers don't sound good now I think the context is important.

[@PKMNcast]

Mr Serebii has reported this 1.5 number many times for those 6 games

[@NoLvlCap]

I just wish they would come out with a red blue and yellow collection with Internet capabilities

[@JDub120]

Best Co-Hosts in Order: (1) Bobby (not even close - the views and input he provides is always top notch!); (2) Hannah (a classic who often adds a very good perspective on things from the less super hardcore players; (3) Chris (not sure if he's been on before this episode, but like his focus on Go, but definitely has some TCG and mainstream game experience); (4) Greg (can be entertaining in a different way, but way overshadowed by general complaining just about all the time about everything; (5) Will (just no. I'll probably skip any future episode with him as he literally brings nothing to to the table. Sorry, Will!) Am I missing anyone (not counting special guest appearances like Cerebi Joe)???

[@MrBloomX]

what about pokemon pocket

[@AdamDawson3]

There is a Pokemon Presents every single year in August

[@PKMNcast]

If you mean every year, the first one in August was 2021, the one before that was June of 2020, so no

[@tcClockworth]

I've missed seeing Hannah on the pod, hope she's doing okay!

[@PKMNcast]

She'll be back

[@SupremeKaioshin]

The sound priority issues that Pokémon sleep has is 100% the reason I dropped the game.

[@itschris619]

i’m a big listening to ambient music while i sleep and i’ve figured out that if i play my music then start a sleep session, Pokemon Sleep will stop the music. all i have to do is press play again on my headphones to get the music playing and it will keep going

[@Frosty0-f4e]

My almost perfect Ralts is male :/

[@PKMNcast]

What’s the issue?

[@Frosty0-f4e]

@PKMNcast I wanted a Gardevoir, but don't want to give up on this Gallade. It would be easier if I didn't have an option in evolution.

[@PKMNcast]

Gardevoir can be male? I don’t understand the issue.

[@namanjotsinghns]

Scarlet and Violet had more issues than just poor graphics like its a B tier game its not awful in any respects but like the art direction wasnt good the open world wasnt that interesting to explore graphics can't fix all that

[@PKMNcast]

Never said graphics, said performance

[@namanjotsinghns]

​@PKMNcast sorry my bad performance, but my original still stands

[@townee23]

microsoft skipped over win 9. you skipped over covid.

[@PKMNcast]

I brought it up in this convo

[@mobilenation1104]

NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!

[@PKMNcast]

lol