Rating EVERY Warhammer 40K Orks Box Set - Every Ork Codex Kit Reviewed!

[@Questioningbasics]

Small note on the Deff Dread. There's enough options for 2 of them in the box you just need another base and a body to attach it to, an old Citadel Shade pot works perfectly fine

[@richmcgee434]

You could almost manage three IIRC. 4 claws, 2 shootas, 2 KMBs, 1 skorcha, 2 rokkit launchas. Find or steal or kitbash something for a 12th arm and there's your three.

[@frankyboi1819]

I have never bought a deff dredd by itself. I own three from two start collecting sets and the combat patrol. This is the only way to buy deff dredds

[@Kallistosprom]

Or an imperial guard sentinel body

[@KT-pv3kl]

too bad gw will kick you out of their tournaments or stores if you try playing with a citadel shade pot ...

[@seal3626]

@@KT-pv3kl if you paint it well enough would they even notice?

[@DragonMagi]

This video made me sad because I lost my 15 year old Ork collection in a house fire early this year. I got compensated for them with insurance money but I havent been able to bring myself to start collecting them again. So much work lost.

[@themilitarumpainter]

sounds tough. However, nothing is more orky than returning from the ashes to fight some more! maybe just get a killteam worth and paint them in your old scheme for nostalgia/ sentimental value

[@chuckobannon2975]

Orks don’t loose they just get another go at a good scrap

[@Dragonage2ftw]

That’s so sad. I hope you find motivation.

[@DragonMagi]

@@Dragonage2ftw I'm thinking of starting them again next year. Working on Votann right now.

[@chaosrex1487]

Really sorry to hear that.

[@timunderbakke8756]

I respect ork players because of the sheer amount of collecting they have to do in order to play. It’s an impressive investment just to get to a 2k army never mind having options. But the only orks I’ll own are the ones under High Marshal Helbrecht and now under an Emperor’s Champion with Bayard’s Revenge.

[@richmcgee434]

Well, these days printer goes brrr does reduce the cost a lot, but as an old school player, it sure used to add up. The metal days weren't really much better, either.

[@stephenchurch1784]

It's not that bad. The older boxes have something like five optional builds per model so I just buy noble knight or bits of war bodies and build the rest from my bits box

[@DMKA94]

As an ork player with a 5K army ebay is your best friend. Black reach Boyz, Nobz and Kopterz are really cheap, and if you're creative cheap broken vehicle kits are great for conversion. Think I spent around £500-600 with only 3 third party mek gunz.

[@colonelturmeric558]

Yeah this is a good point, Ebay is generally your friend all around tbf. Also, due to the nature of orks and their wargear you can literally just buy cheap airfix-type tank kits of appropriate scale and just convert them, got a Jagdpanther with a bunch of boyz hanging off it at home and you’d never know

[@frankyboi1819]

Hopefully one day we’ll get an ork killing a black Templar as a mini

[@PapaTom.]

The Gargantuan Squiggoth costing the same as a college credit doesn't even surprise me at this point.

[@theinternetofrandomthings7796]

It is a massive old chunk of resin, but still...forgeworld prices.

[@Remi-Toruzen]

It serves a secondary purpose as home defense when you chuck the heavy solid chunk of resin at them. Shits gonna hurt when they don’t expect a mammoth dinosaur frog to the face.

[@aceshigh1984]

And that thing is still less than one fourth of the price for a fully kitted out warbringer titan. Fellas, is it immoral to buy forgeworld recasts?

[@aceshigh1984]

@@Remi-Toruzen you're gonna take off someone's head if you lob that squiggoth at them

[@GarrettPDGA]

@@aceshigh1984 it's not immoral, it's wasteful, but I still wants it

[@Slapdab]

These are my favorite. Gives me the experience of standing in the shop, weighing how to spend my lawn mowing money (but not buying because I’m off the cheap plastic addiction these days, lol)

[@reddragon4482]

Cults3D has pretty much every ork if you look around lol, they look like the real thing too. Gargants and everything lol.

[@aceshigh1984]

And unlike in a GW store, Auspex Tacitcs doesn't try to get you to buy anything, but he wants players to get the best armies for the best values

[@Freedmoon44]

@@aceshigh1984 tbf if a company didnt try to make you buy stuff it wouldnt be a company

[@richmcgee434]

@@Freedmoon44 Well, not for very long, anyway.

[@Stevie28]

Awesome Video as always. I'd like to mention some things in terms of kitbashing. 1. The Dakka jet kit: You get tons of extra bits in here. With another Scale model Plane you can easily make another Orky Flyer out of it, maybe even two. Plus lots of extra Rokkits etc. 2. The Standard Ork Boyz kit. You can convert these guys into everything. I've done: Tankbustas, Kommandos and Burnas. There are a lot of 3rd party bitz for them and combining them with extra parts from other Ork kits yields a lot of potential. (Nearly the same goes for nobz) 3. Meganobz: Don't glue in the "Hands" You can easily swap them out for the other options. And Magnetize one of the Banners of one of them. This way you can swap it out for the KFF oder Tellyporta Blasta. You can use the extra penal that goes on top of one to make it into the Mek kit for a better surface area. Honorable mentions: New Kommandos Kit. You get tons of extra bitz to convert even more Kommandos in combination with the boyz kit. Burnas/Lootas. As Auspex mentioned in combination with the standard boyz kit you can easily make the other variant you didn't build with the spare parts of the Kit.

[@richmcgee434]

The jet kit is another decent source of shooty weapons for Deff Dreds if you want to use them as gun platforms - as AT noted that kit doesn't come with the best mix for that role. Killa kans also work well for that. When buying burna/loota kits you really might as well budget for a boyz kit for every ~2.5 of the elite/heavy kit you buy. You'll need them. Also worth considering how best to minimize the spanna tax in both units, since the current limits are a 1:7, 2:11 or 3:12 ratio between them and the troops. 2:10 is very popular IME, since that neatly fills a trukk. That can slightly reduce the number of extra bodies you need, of course.

[@albertotejedorgauna]

does the combat patrol kit carry the same amount of spare parts as the minis it's composed of separately?

[@Stevie28]

@@albertotejedorgauna No Combat patrol is Mono pause Models. Not good for kitbashing. You still can do it but it's much more work and not worth it imho

[@albertotejedorgauna]

@@Stevie28 what does mono pause models mean?

[@Stevie28]

@@albertotejedorgauna you can only build them one way. Mostly two halfes pushed together. No spare armes or Something

[@dustinasche]

Just one note: The Warboss with Big Choppa is actually one of the few remaining metal miniatures in the GW range (and is still currently available on their website).

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

For how much longer before it gets rotated though?

[@10urion]

This video is missing some major sets. We all know that every set is an Ork set :P Thanks for the review :)

[@richmcgee434]

It really is worth noting that the GSC vehicles in particular kitbash into orky stuff quite easily. Probably also some things you can do with Necromunda's big cargo hauler kits. Looking forward to seeing what one of our locals does with that new proemethium trailer they showed off the other day. He was cackling about building a mega-skorcha battlewagon the last I talked to him, and we mostly play RT and 2nd ed so DIY rules are something my group's used to.

[@10urion]

@@richmcgee434 I saw those necromunda bikes and my mind immediately jumped to orkifying them mentaly

[@richmcgee434]

@@10urion Oh yeah. The Orlock ones could be modern warbuggies with ease, the Goliath ones are pretty much already ork vehicles, they just need a new rider - or maybe just a head swap and green flesh tones? The Escher jetbike things would make an awesome support option for stormboyz, just saying. :) Hell, I'm almost convince the ugly-ass Taurox would be a decent trukk variant. Take our looted wagons away, will you GW? We'll show you...

[@10urion]

@@richmcgee434 as soon as I saw the Taurox I was convinced that it would be an Ork vehicle just give it wheels in the front (and back) and you are already set

[@s.k4713]

Tbh I think the majority of ambots sold were built as warbosses and bigmeks instead of actual ambots for necromunda.

[@stephenchurch1784]

The gretchin arr amazing pallette cleansers too. If you're having trouble getting motivated to paint other models, they're a quick, easy and fun paintjob to get your mojo back with

[@Tremadog102]

I'm amazed that you think this, They have been my go-to model to paint when I want a break from batch painting. Some of the various grot orderlies are really characterful sculpts. I've got about 13 of them dragging various equipment around. I could buy a couple of mek guns when I need new grot sculpts to paint! 🤪 They are surprisingly useful for testing out new painting techniques or painting products too. I bought chrome effect paint recently, that needs testing...

[@dan13jb]

I have a full 30 of the old metal grots, a gift from an old Warhammer mentor. Painting them is both refreshing, and quite therapeutic.

[@frankyboi1819]

The best bit of advice I was given when getting into the game was: just use spare ork boyz and rockets if you want tankbustas. Don’t waste your money

[@JazzTehHippy]

Every Ork Box Set is 10/10 WAAAGH!!

[@channelsofash]

Built a Kill Team using the Savage Orruk set and some Lego weapons. The choppas are nice painted up a metallic color since they look like dented and pitted bits of scrap turned into a weapon.

[@equos5060]

The new Boyz box is still, one of the biggest middle fingers GW ever showed to their player base.

[@tomnookssweetass9004]

i'm guessing it's because of the mono-pause nature of the boys but if not, would you mind explaining your opinion?

[@DT-ce1fb]

It has a split of shooter orks and choppa orks. Which is annoying as no-one in history has ever wanted to run them in mixed squads..

[@thewindowsmaaane]

@@DT-ce1fb it's just a supplementary kit to add variation

[@tomnookssweetass9004]

@@DT-ce1fb that is a very legitimate point, i usually just run them as a simple squad slugga/choppa or shoota, trying to keep the "wrong" boyz hidden in the middle of the squad, even tho it's a mix squad i don't really want to buy 8 boxes tbh

[@richmcgee434]

It is phenomenally insulting, yes. They could have come over and crapped on my bed and I think I'd have been less angry about it.

[@Mr_Waffle.]

I have no interest in collecting orks but I found this video really fun to watch as a kind of window shopping. I hope we can get one for every faction!

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

For anyone else here, I highly suggest mixed new and old boyz - a bit of knifework and green stuff, and you can kitbash them for just awesome variety.

[@CesarTheKingVA]

All units are ork units with kitbashing

[@B__C__]

I swapped out the tiny new heads for some older ork, orruk and 3rd party heads and they do look pretty cool, but I don't think I am ever going to buy more than that one set of new boyz (off of ebay for about $10 at the time).

[@Wow-nl2zr]

Don’t forget the meganob box has a custom forcefield in it for the big Mek/conversions

[@megapizzadragon2397]

I really like that different sizes of ork boyz is lore appropriate. Makes it more fun to kitbash and mix n match boyz.

[@B__C__]

Newer ork boys (starting around the Speed Freeks box) all seem to have orkish microcephaly, with tiny heads with little chins, foreheads, and not all that many funny hats. I ended up using older and 3rd party heads on all of my newer ork models (Kommandos, New Boyz, Beastsnaggas, Squig Hog Boyz, etc...) just so they fit in with all of my older boyz. Runtherds make fine Weirdboyz with their various staves, so the Gretchin box is a bit of a steal. You get a cheap troops unit and a possible HQ psyker character all for about $20, when often a character alone costs more.

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Agree on the Hunta/Kill Rig model. It looks so derpy. Almost as bad as the 30K Space Wolves legion helmets.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

But derpy is actually kinda fitting for orks. Space wolves have always been shown as stern for the most part, the orks the total opposite.

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

@@bionicgeekgrrl - True, but I meant it was the wrong kind of "derpy". Their old Trukk models and such do this well, the Hunta/Killa Rig, not so much. It looks more like a a zany kids toy than a war vehicle.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

The meganobz build for a big mek in mega armour - there is also a kustom force field option for him in there!

[@richmcgee434]

Easily magnetized too. Or you could build two big meks without much trouble, just convert the head on the second one a bit and maybe scrounge up a second KMB from somewhere. Or just use a kombi-rokkit and not risk melting yourself.

[@thewizardjoe88]

As someone who just bought a savage orruk box to make a kill team, I'll second them being suggested here. It's easy to give them sluggas with a hand swap, and honestly you could just build them with bows & melee weapons if you wanted a quick way to make counts-as sluggas/choppas boyz

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

love the detail the new ork boys/mono have just with they were easier to change poses.

[@richarddixon1450]

Honestly can't wrap my head around these new monopose kits for core troop choices for main armies. They've released monopose Cultists now FOUR TIMES! in a row 🤯🤯🤯🤯 instead of a multipart kit. Then do kill team units (kommandos. Traitor guard. With kits filled to the brim with bits and new options) I'm just baffled lol.

[@richmcgee434]

Meanwhile, Frostgrave's cultist kit is $35 for 20 figs, fully modular, and comes with tons of spare bits. And you could grab any of the similar Stargrave kits and do arm swaps to get some tech weapons on your cultists. Or just ask any Xgrave player for hep, their bits boxes are bulging. Plus their figs are not quite as chunky as GW stuff is, so your CSM masters will look properly huge next to their minions. So yeah, screw monopose GW.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Oh wow. And there I was, thinking I was done spending money on plastic pieces for the year... Damn you and your quality content, Mr Tactics!

[@superspecky4eyes]

I prefer the old boyz kit to be honest. Prefer the slightly goofier looking sculpts.

[@richmcgee434]

Agreed. Much better for modelling opportunities, far more spare parts, just all around superior on everything but style. Plus the "old look" is inescapable, given that so much of the rest of the range uses the same aesthetic. Lootas and burnas have the same boyz bodies and legs, Stormboys are proportioned the same way, tankbustas - well, tankbustas are usually plastic boyz with rokkit launches, right? The resin kit's a bad joke.

[@B__C__]

All the newer boyz seem to be suffering orkish microcephaly, and lack the previous design's facial expressions, and penchant for funny hats. I had to use older ork, fantasy orruk, and 3rd-party heads for my beastsnaggas, squig hog boyz, new kommandos, and new boyz (I got one kit off of ebay for about $10) just so that they would fit in with all my older boyz. And I have to say they all look pretty cool. Also, the ball and socket design for the older boyz' waists, and head and necks and the interchangeability of the arms and heads between kits is pure genius and a feature that really encourages kitbashing.

[@icklemoo]

one day GW will remember that big Ork walkers exist in game and need viable rules to actually get used more , than just being rolled out for a casual mess around game :(

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Got something very negative on the Nobz - there is only one and hence only a left killsaw in there. Makes dual killsaws a real hassle to build.

[@richmcgee434]

That's not even originally a killsaw, it's on the frame because it was one of the bionic bit upgrades they used to be able to take. Same with the prodder arm, that used to be a bionic harpoon gun for reeling in enemies. Old cybork nobs were 2nd edition levels of whimsically goofy. I'm surprised they didn't give us a body with a unicycle monowheel instead of legs.

[@B__C__]

Technically, all of those rotary saw bladed axe-looking things (that people run as "big choppas") are kill saws as well. If you compare them to the kill saws on the Mega Armored Nobz they're the same weapon, they are 'saws' it's just the non-armored nobz mounted them on long poles. When I run them I run them as either, after all if they've run out of gas they could still be used as a big choppa.

[@Hoodles321]

So glad you’re still making ork videos, even though there’s nothing going on atm!

[@tylerfhales]

if orks are growing constantly does that mean and ork can outgrow their deff dread like hermit crabs?

[@B__C__]

I suppose that's why there's a Mega Dread.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Deff Dread has only a single Skorcha.

[@NornQueenKya]

Nob box is my favorite. So many bits and ways to customize them and other orks

[@brianhall4182]

If I did start an orc army I'd be tempted to just go full Mad Max. Nothing but bikes, trikes, cars, and trucks. Those are some great models.

[@josephrigley8974]

Gretchin are the stars in every game I've used them in, they hold objectives, screen out deepstrikes and most importantly they do actions like "get da good bitz" which is just easy VP every game and as an Ork player you need to pick your secondaries well or you'll struggle to score high and games are won and lost on VP.

[@aceshigh1984]

Im gonna focus on building my Blood Angels army for Horus Heresy, because i feel like i'd have to sell a kidney for a good Ork army. Shame because i love the Orkz. But i wanna get at least some boyz and paint them like warboys from Mad Max. Getting sidetracked here, the effort you put into your videos is insane and a huge help for us tabletop players :)

[@Spandau-Filet]

Yeah… you’re still losing a kidney if you’re getting HH😂

[@philliplarose8570]

Something to keep in mind; the Kill team starter kit comes with 1 full commando team, 1 full IG team (if you want to play kill team, or a whole load of bits for conversions); terrain and rules for kill team; for about 100$ US. If you want to get Kommandos (they are often sold out cause the models are dead 'ard); look for the kill team starter kit.

[@roli112233]

30:17 "Reckless Abaddon" lol

[@maxxieboy271]

Recently got gifted a ghaz box and a gretchin box, and dont know where to go in terms of army beyond Goffs. This video came in clutch like always! Although this does muddle the chances of making a Imperial Knights army anytime soon 😅

[@DrVitoti]

For the kommandos I think it may be more cost effective to get the kill team starter kit

[@dirtfrosting]

Your videos are always just on time!

[@lart93]

Love how informative your videos are. I just started on the hobby and tbh I'm really liking the fun aesthetic of the orks. I've been looking at the Killdakka Warband (battlebox) since it's being sold at my LGS for about 130€. Would you consider that a good deal/good starting point? I know the combat patrol is also good but it's only 30€ cheaper so that's why I'm considering the Warband. Thanks!

[@calvinglass8865]

Loved this video! You should make these for more factions

[@robyoung703]

Thank you for helping the rest of us have a clue about this stuff. I love this game but we would be screwed without the servo-cogitator that is auspex tactics

[@mortyjhones4068]

The stompa Head has a Gaze of Mork supper zapper in it. The supper lifter droppa is a legands upgrade that can replace ether arm. though it dose need alot of pinning work to keep it in place. as there a a couple of weak points where all the wieght of the resin is on a single resine pin.

[@frogman7073]

Great video, I've been using it before I purchase more orks for the wagh

[@Kallistosprom]

As an old ork player I have no idea how people start collecting orks now they’re so expensive per point.

[@The_mekboy_you_deserve]

I always tought that the price-point ratio is a bit wierd, I mean yes it calculates how many points you are buying in game, but then again model costing less points when updated in an army usually is a good thing, so then again unless the models are not that great maybe it's a fair point to value the price-point, but if it is a good model and isn't overly pricey I'd say it is still good. Am I in the wrong side of logic this day or is there someone else like me out there?

[@midknight9327]

Ausoex, grots are a top tier unit right now, and a must have is to have 2 of them, the secondary, get the good bitz, plays very well into them

[@jdloreman]

At this point you could talk about pretty much anything and I would still enjoy the content, keep it coming I say.

[@bradcarlson7564]

This is very useful. I'll probably watch it more than once

[@davedogge2280]

just get what you want, the less purchased boxes will be promoted in the next codex maybe with improvements.

[@janfaworski5155]

What about Kromlech orcs...?

[@MrAllgoodnamesaregon]

Been building an ork army that will never see play😂 I just get what I think cool. So most things Ork

[@adamtucker1896]

I feel loved this orktober

[@OldWitchDoctor]

The new boyz look so good, but the lack of customization and options just makes them unappealing. GW seem kinda all over the place when it comes to this design philosophy as other recent releases don't have such limitations and idk, limiting customization just doesn't feel very orky.

[@Pers0n97]

Of all the insultings things 9th did, I think the way it betrayed Ork players by pretending it was finally their turn to get the model refresh they deserved to then giving them the middle finger is probably the saddest. What did the ork really needed? Updates to their core units: Boyz, Nobs, MegaNobs, Flashgitz, Burna/Lootas, Stormboyz and all their HQ. What did they got instead? First they got baited with the propect of a brand new and shiny boyz kit that turned out to the literally not fit for purpose, so bad in its extreme monopose and limited wargear that they had to keep the old kit in production, an admission in itself of how much they fucked up. Then they got a bunch of updated new HQ, ALL of them being monopose and without any options, even the big boss, but instead of being just refresh of the very old HQ, the rest was NEW HQ. No, that's not a Painboy or Weirdboy, that's a Painboss and Wurdboy! Totly different, pls buy. And instead of delivering any of the previously mentioned update, GW did what they always do with thos "refresh" and just decided to focus on releasing more new stuff than updaing the old one, and this time it came with a bunch of frankly ridiculous and cartoonish looking "cyber-savage" boys that feel more like they came from horizon zero dawn than 40k At the end of the day, Orks are still in the same dreadful spot than they were at the start of the edition, having all their core units still being 25years old miniatures, but now GW has managed to craft the narrative that "they totally got a new range update recently". Right. They got Komandos and Kopters I guess.... I'm not even an Ork player and I feel insulted.

[@D00M3R_MAVS]

Gutted that I missed the Boarding Patrol box. Seems it's the only way to get Boss Skarsnik. Also all the minis in it were stuff I wanted.

[@dan13jb]

I found a couple in my local game store this weekend! Definitely worth hunting around local stores in case they have any tucked away in a dark corner.

[@manofaction1807]

I'm still under the impression that the monopose boys were for another use, like a board game or something. They are iffy, at best. Not a real fan of them.

[@fazzz]

Incredibly useful video. Thanks for making it

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

The bonebreaker reminds me of the whacky racers cartoon

[@AsterixCodix]

Hint: Don't do a purely Grot army. You will regret it

[@maxxieboy271]

Ghaz + grot armada is tournament viable, what do you mean?

[@realmweavergaming7129]

The Weirdboy staff breaks super easy. This is the single biggest gotcha GW has. Looks awesome and fluffy, if not a little dated, but breaks at the slightest nudge of the staff. It is best to use the AoS Weirdnob or kitbash one with the AoS and 40K bits.

[@kevinb2264]

limited funds, this will help me lots. I am looking to get back into it but it is a lot more now and i lost two armies as it is. I bought the old ork kit where you can do all weapons, when it was holiday year end sale.

[@AsterixCodix]

I do wonder how the Grot Tanks size up compared to the Blood Bowl Pump Wagons. Kinda fancy kitbashing a few

[@caseywatts5513]

I should note that forgeworld included a unit of Boyz in my Squiggoth

[@spoonsrattling]

The squiggoth I'd say would be a good way to run the big gun infantry, decently durable and the guys inside get to fire to full effect

[@richmcgee434]

It's not hopelessly bad at that, but a battlewagon is faster, about as durable, probably 30-50 points cheaper depending on loadout, and has twice the carrying capacity and (potentially) more of its own firepower. With a roller it's not even worse at melee. It'd help if the silly thing had the Squig keyword instead of Squiggoth for some Snakebite & Snagga synergy, but it doesn't at the moment. I guess it's at its best with the heavy guys (so tankbustas and flash gitz) as long as it doesn't advance but lootas and skorchas and the rare shooty nob setups are probably better in wagons.

[@brandonransley7091]

The new boyz being monopose AND forcing you to take 3 shootas and a nob in a box is the biggest crime GW have done in a while and doesn't get nearly as much flak as it should. I've been waiting well over 10 years for an ork refresh to get into the faction and now it's finally here it's all monopose garbage that gives you zero freedom.

[@joshb2835]

this ^ Monopose warboss, monopose boyz, monopose everything, meanwhile eldar guardians, have options for bboth, autarchs are pretty customisable, some for the new Leagues, and from what I can see the guard releases. Actual pisstake.

[@richmcgee434]

100% agreed. Doing surgery to get variety killed all interest I had in the kit.

[@strategystuff5080]

I love window shopping

[@chrisinculture]

Very helpful! Eldar next please 😁

[@Azgoth]

Dare you to do this for space Marines

[@noregrets3925]

Still happy for winning an auction for meganobz getting them at 35$

[@xuruiyu]

I just realised Morboys MORE boys I don't know if I should be ashamed of myself or angry at GW

[@What2Have4Dinner]

Thanks for this one man

[@DavidBretton]

My november tournament army has a squad of tankbustas (Mostly just boyz with rokkit launchers) riding a squiggoth. The resin tankbusta models are horrible :-(

[@richmcgee434]

I mean, the sculpts are nice enough (or were back when they were metal, at least) but the weapon choices are idiotic so you're buying dead models. But yeah, I'm at 10 dedicated tankbustas and they're all just rokkit launcha boyz and a few converted fantasy squigs for bombs. I got fancy with converting them so they're all unique, but still the boyz kit at the heart of things. If GW had any sense, they do a modular frame packed with ork bodies, then make compatible frames for each of the specialists to bundle with them. Throw in unit-appropriate bits as well as weapons and you could cover the who infantry range in under ten frames total, maybe thirteen or fourteen adding in the nob variant types. Instead, well got bloody monopose boyz and that daft snagga kit. Idiots.

[@DavidBretton]

@@richmcgee434 In hindsight I should have just scavenged some more Rokkit launcher arms. In metal they would have been fine, but Finecast resin is the satan for finding more resin flash to gouge out.

[@richmcgee434]

@@DavidBretton Oh, 100% on that. I've worked for a couple of different little tiny resin casting business that literally ran out of their garages and we'd never had dared send out stuff as sloppily cast as GW does. They're an embarrassment to the industry, and everyone with any experience in it just looks at their quality and cost and laughs. Thankfully, rokkit launchas are easy to come by in trade if you need them. Most ork players just kind of natuarlly accumulate an excess of them, especially now that they're heavy instead of assault and don't work so well in boyz or kommando mobz.

[@jarhead636]

I had plans to make a full grot army with grot mega tank and mini grot tanks just for the luls if i remember right it was around 260ish models for 1500 points......i didnt make it lol

[@Yeeleaf007]

Where do I go to find these box sets? I can’t find them

[@cameron9915]

Has anyone kitbashed the new boyz kit or nobz kit with ardboyz?

[@davidburke6467]

I’m just a little confused by the pricing, maybe gw favors British consumers but isn’t the pound worth about 1.1 dollars right now? Like 100 dollars is 88 pounds? Yet all the prices on models seem to be 160% of the British cost in dollars ie 24 pounds becomes 38 dollars

[@clawnight3103]

Maybe you cand do it with tyranids box olso

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

How does the necromunda cargo 8 ridge hauler compare size with to ork truck? possible replacement/conversion as the truck is looking dated now,

[@DT-ce1fb]

It's way bigger than a truck. Probably closed to a battlewagon stand in.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@DT-ce1fb ahh thanks,

[@tabletactics4578]

If I ever went back to playing Orks for 40k. I would buy 3 or 4 starter sets, one by one. Any other way seems too expensive in the long run.

[@hammdogporkington3058]

Does anyone know if the Killa Kans kit comes with enough ranged weapons to have three of the same? Like, if I wanted to build three Kans with skorchas would the box be enough or would I need to find the additional skorchas separately?

[@dan13jb]

I'm pretty sure you get one of each weapon, but there are four options if I remember correctly. You can fairly easily get hold of skorchas on their own to add on though. I'm aware you asked this months ago, but hopefully it will help whoever next comes along with the same question!

[@JamesTillmanjimthegray]

great video

[@pepi560]

flash gitz not having a kill team seems like a crime.

[@richmcgee434]

Sneaky isn't really their thing. They're the biggest show-offs in any ork force.

[@Kallistosprom]

The nob box is amazing for the amount of bits you get!

[@richmcgee434]

Hey, something I have a real, non-snarky opinion about. A rarity these days. The shitty monopose boyz are also hugely overpriced ($50 for 10 versus $38 for 11 compared to the real version) which significantly decreases the real value of the combat patrol. As for the original boyz, they remain in production partly because you need them to build the other half of the even more grossly inefficient loota/burna box, since you'll be chucking 40% of that box unless you use some standard boyz bodies to build the whole thing. The grot box provides you with quite a lot of extra grot heads, which not only improves variety it lets you do the classic "pinhead ork" conversion on the regular boyz, which look hilarious and piss off purists. The runtherd is easily converted into many things, although the basic boy is probably easiest. The two ends of his staff are enormously useful bits for conversions as well, making this kit really quite a bargain, especially if you don't mind using a specialist boyz slot on 'orrible gits anyway. Note that the AoS "orruk" range also includes several shaman figures that can make good replacements for the failcast resin weirdboy fig, although like all GW characters they're stupidly overpricxed. If you do go that route, the weirdnob shaman is probably the easiest to work with, and is plastic to boot. Very easy to "tech up" a bit if you want. Kommandos are a nice kit for duopose, but for 40K most of the potential is just wasted. The upgrades that are so cool in KT are largely a waste on a 40K table and you'll generally wind up just going slugga/choppa with most of the unit. Even at that they're expensive (in both $ and points) for what they do, especially if they face off against forward deployment blockers (eg infiltrators). Even in cover they really aren't at all hard to shift if the enemy has decent AP, and in a meta where AoC exists everyone reaches for that. At least the extra gubbins and bits will be useful for conversions. Meganobz are a fairly useful kit for bits, and it's important to note that you get both a KFF and the tellyporta blasta with it, so not only are both options there, you could opt to build two big meks with minimal effort. Easy enough to nick an extra kustom mega-blasta from a dreadnought or spanna frame if you really must have one. The burna/loota boxes have to be looked at from the POV of needing a $38 box of boyz for every two-and-a-half of the elite/heavy kits, which drives the cost up some. Also (owing to how bad a value the spanna tax is) you really want to consider maximizing the number of actual troops in a unit, so 1:7, 2:11, or the max 3:12 are the limits. IME 2:10 is the most popular owing to it filling a trukk, although 1:7 offers the best ratio and doesn't put as many eggs in one basket. Also think you're slightly undervaluing lootas, if you have the CP strat support can bump their effectiveness up quite a lot and their dakka weapons make them a decent choice as the "main battery" of an open-topped battlewagon. They still struggle with AoC and high saves in general, but they're kind of reasonably priced for what they offer. The nob kit is a joy to work with but be aware that their arms do not fit on regular boyz (including the boyz nob) very well despite using the same kind of flat connection points. The nobs are noticeably larger as you'd expect. It's a shame they aren't more viable in 9th, although they are arguably the best choice for your trukkboy specialist mob. Just don't waste them on the wrong target and don't fail your charge. Tankbustas are a unit I can't see ever buying as such. Just build them out of the plethora of spare boyz with rokkit launchas you'll have laying around after a while, and maybe convert a few fantasy squigs into bombs if you really want them. You weren't ever going to take the other silly optional weapons anyway unless you're just joking around. They aren't just for vehicle killing - at 16 points a shot a d3 shot blast effect weapon is going to earn its points back in short order just shelling units with 6+ models, and 5-model units often cost so many ppm they're still viable targets. The trick is getting in range and surviving long enough to shoot at full BS, which makes them a lot more attractive in Bad Moons, although Freebootas can make good use of them too. Stormboyz aren't a good value $ wise, but they do have the minor advantage of having mostly cross-compatible arms with the regular boyz kit. They have some unique bits, so swapping between the two kits can add a bit more visual variety to both units. A small benefit that maybe doesn't make up for the cost, but $7 a model is actually not high by GW standards. Squigpigs are a cute kit and all, but if you're a traditionalist (as any proper snakebite clanner should be) you can get proxy models much, much cheaper by repurposing the bonesplittas orruk boar riders and doing some light conversion work and a rebasing onto a more suitable size. The bigger brute cavalry over there could also work as nobs on smasha squigs, and I already mentioned converting gloomspite squigs into bombs. At $6 apiece instead of ~$15 the pig riders are vastly cheaper than the squigpigs, albeit smaller and needing more work. And yes, there is a local in my mostly 2nd-ed circle whose snakebite army is largely composed of fantasy figs. He's been great to trade with, only person I know who actually wants spares from the boyz kits. :) Warbikes benefit a fair bit from Bad Moons kultur as well. Increasing their dakka range to 12/24" is a pretty big deal if they're trying to shoot at full power without getting stuck in afterward. If you're in an environment that allows Legends they're probably badly outshown by big shoota wartrakks, though. Those things are murder. Flash gitz are not, despite the pirate motif, actually tied to freebootaz. They arguably work a lot better in Bad Moons (like many shooty orks) and that extra point of base WS is a big deal for them when comparing to slot competition like lootas. They do need some help staying alive (eg the mobile damage sponge know as a trukk, or the tellyporta bighead fort trick) but at 25 ppm they aren't a hopeless, especially with strat support. The models themselves are busy, but well designed. Note that Killa Kans are a fine way to get some ranged weapon spares for your Deff Dreds if you want. No KMBs, but you can maybe mine those from loota/burna spannas if you don't mind some conversion work.

[@jessedriver8697]

Good write up

[@richmcgee434]

@@jessedriver8697 I'm amazed anyone read it. Was pretty much posting as the vid played, pausing when he got ahead of me. Hence, wordy. :)

[@liveanotheranime3526]

Got gifted a box of Killa Kans. Was excited then disappointed once learning there’s only one of each weapon in the box. Fun building but can’t bother using until I get at least two more boxes…Can only fire all three at a shorter range which makes the longer ranged ones kinda useless.

[@richmcgee434]

@@liveanotheranime3526 If you're using dreds as well, you can easily poach some of their weapons to add a lot more variety to the builds. That kit comes with two big shootas, two rokkit launchas, one skorcha and two close combat arms that are all fully compatible with the kan bodies (plus two KMBs that the kans can't use). Also has three or four melee weapons that the cans don't plus some that are duplicated, and all of its melee weapons are cross compatible with the kan arms - the ball-and-socket joints are identical sizes. The dred body can take any of the kan arms on its two lower sockets, but teh upper sockets are too big for them. Only thing to be careful about is the dred "upper arm" assemblies, which have shoulder balls too big for the kans (or its own lower sockets) despite using the same size socket at the "hand" end of things. I find a 2:1 ratio of kan:dred kits works best for me, but throwing an extra dred in if you're doing a lot (like 12+ individual kans) would ease the parts pinch a bit. Some kitbashing helps too.

[@khalebrobertson9907]

WAAAAAAAGH

[@GadBoDag]

Haha, Google is offering to translate your comment to English

[@khalebrobertson9907]

@@GadBoDag hmmm, clearly they don't speak much orky speak

[@magnusballard512]

Do this for Tau Pls!

[@birtchtree3352]

I heard my wallet weeping during this video

[@zombfi]

Thanks my English Brotha.

[@dxpsumma383]

What are Nobz? Are these what's known as "Bosse" in German? I'm not that familiar with the English names of armies I don't play myself 😀

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

The bigger orks, either unit champion or elite unit.

[@ianfleming446]

Nobz is their version of "Noble". My German is not the best but I've seen other games (like OnePageRules") refer to them as "Bosses".

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

A Nobz is a larger Ork Boy who is smaller than and subservient to an Ork Warboss but still possesses some authority amongst other Greenskins of his tribe or klan because of his greater-than-average size and strength.

[@antonybullock2240]

30 quid for 10 orks. An absolute piss take. It just goes to show that games workshop no longer respect their customer base.

[@Damnedlegion40k]

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[@TheDickDeck]

It's quite telling of GW's lack of price awareness that almost all of these are red for price per points.