Australian Immigration News 13th July. How DOHA misled visa applicants on Partner Points for years!

The New Western Australian DAMA includes Perth!
How the DOHA misled visa applicants for years about Partner Skilled Points for the 189, 190, and 491 visas.
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[@RasheedSyd]

This would have been justified if the approval/processing time for the visa had been 2-3 months at most. Taking years to give outcomes and expecting people not to get married is unreasonable.

[@ailsaustralia]

Very unreasonable indeed and yes this rule was made with the intention of quick processing

[@akashvhegde1]

I disagree, couple of years is not a big deal if not getting married, if you know it is somewhat complicated in going through PR process why not make ur case as easy as possible????

[@RasheedSyd]

​@@akashvhegde1it is not about PR process. It is about outcome of the application. They just need to check documents, verify them then give the outcome. Couple of years is not small time my frnd when your average life is 65-70 years

[@akashvhegde1]

@RasheedSyd Doesn't matter what my age lifespan is it's not like PR process takes 5 years isn't it. How much worst case scenario 1 2 or max 3yrs

[@RasheedSyd]

@@akashvhegde1 no sirr. There are people living in Aus for 10 years and still hoping for PR

[@suritv8407]

Consecutive dirty in Au immigration. It was aged limitation, and then partner. Politicians should uphold their promises; any amendments should only apply to new applicants."

[@bibekshahi9597]

My friend got stuck for 22 months 😢 As he could not get married whilst 491 bridging. These things are not cool!

[@ailsaustralia]

No it is a cruel situation to place people in

[@emperorsports9955]

that ain't nothing I got stuck for 27 months being single, two PCC and medicals. I literally had to send Clare O'Neil and Andrew Giles numerous messages before it was finalized

[@sabkaabaap8847]

🙏😀 hi, Karl, always waiting eagerly for your new uploads. This is a great country with many friendly, kind, helpful, and good-hearted people like yourself except for a few (sorry to say this). Fairness should prevail, and transparency should be enforced for those who deserve a fair chance. What has happened with 485 age capping for existing students doesn't sound Australian since we all believed this is a JUST nation without discrimination. Thanks for your support.

[@amalpeter374]

I lodged my application for a 190 subclass visa to VIC in January 2020. I married in 2021 after 1 year of waiting and added my spouse. she took PTE and I completed NAATI CCL and compensated the 10 points lost due to marriage. But after 53 months of waiting they picked my file and simply refused my visa application. I lost my hard work, my 4 years of waiting, my family's future, my wife's career everything. Now I don't know what to do, only because of this non-humanitarian law. What can I do?

[@user-bc4nf4dn3x]

At the minimum they can at least refund the application fee after refusal for the negligence of not updating the immi website earlier

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes they should!

[@estellebright2579]

No. What they should do is grant the visa if partner issue is THE ONLY FACTOR affecting visa grant. They have been lying to us all along. Why not they own up to it?

[@anastasiamikkels9239]

Dear Karl, do you have any information about the work experience requirement for the sc482 Sponsorship visa being lowered from 2 to only 1 year? I would highly appreciate a response! Best regards

[@saimahmed9263]

This is really disturbing and scary as DHA can change any rule anytime and applicant may victimised. What about the age points and waiver of income threshold for 191?? Can they change the waiver of income threshold for 191 later on?

[@dipakpatel6562]

Hi Karl, Thanks for keep informing world. Can you please highlight government is taking too much timeline for 887 application ? and people are suffering their family.

[@user-bf1db3ky5c]

Any update to the expected grant by 2024 December, for a May 2023 non priority offshore 190 lodged candidate? Asking since we are seeing many grants for Jan to April 2023. Will processing times come down, or will we still have to wait until November/December 2024 this year?

[@VickyRueMadziwa]

Looking forward to the class action. Government should be for the people not against people. After all it is the people that give them power.

[@ailsaustralia]

Let see what can be done

[@myphone756]

Hi Karl, Can you do an update in the MATES Visa for India. It's due to open on 1st Nov, as per announcements done previously and there is just no news update on it.

[@osaghaewellingtonedobor5892]

Sorry for this. I have known this rule since 2019! How come he didn't know this information?

[@ailsaustralia]

Unfortunately because they follow the departments advice

[@Ledo5256]

Thank you! for the information Karl, hope you have a relaxing weekend!😇

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks Ledo same to you!

[@lbz1794]

It is such a painful situation even for those who are in pathway visas such as the 494 or 491. I heard that now they are requesting medical exams again for those who are applying to 191 from July 1 . So what should be next new requirement to previous rules to apply for permanent visas for those in a pathway one ?

[@ailsaustralia]

Haven;t come across that before. Whilst they can ask, normally they don't unless there is a good reason to

[@iqbalianful]

Thanks Karl for helping the prospective migrants in navigating the tricky course of immigration. I am glad you highlighted the WA DAMA that may gain acceleration in this fiscal year given the dramatic rise in planning levels for the employer sponsored visa. I was wondering if you could discuss the issue of separate assessment requirements for an occupation listed both for DAMA and general skilled migration. Its mind boggling to pay hefty fees to assessing authorities to get the same thing with a different header. Thanking in anticipation for your consideration.

[@ailsaustralia]

Generally the assemment required for DAMA is lower than for GSM applications. If you have a GSM sill assessment result you sould be able to use it for DAMA

[@tonyraj8621]

The age old debate, To be or Not to be married during the visa grant process... The processing time, keeps increasing week on week. Just hope, the applications are assessed and processed sooner than later.

[@ailsaustralia]

If they were processed quickly as they were designed to this would not even be an issue

[@tonyraj8621]

@@ailsaustralia true that.. Keeping fingers crossed.. Lots depending on the grant.

[@divyabksunar1986]

Are we really not gonna get 5 points for the professional year program??

[@Audionic786]

Hi Karl, Thanks for another informative video. Kindly also plan an episode on 482 to 186 transition/ any grand fathering arrangements expected as they are scrapping 482 in late 2024. Also there is no clear info how new SOL is gonna affect existing 482 visa holders.

[@estellebright2579]

Judging by the info released so far, the skills-in-demand visa seems like somewhat of an upgrade from the 482. Not sure if grandfather clause is necessary. We will have to wait and see.

[@ailsaustralia]

It would be expected of course the requirments for the 186 TRT stream will continue to include the 482 visa. ANy lew list should not apply but we will have to wait and see

[@user-pk3bz9oy6x]

Is exactly the same with the TR WEBSITE they used to said as a s chef you have to do 1,7500hrs they did not said anything about months, so for people who work as a FIFO that kind of hrs you can make it in 6 months, finally they change the inf and you have to work exactly 12 months.

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks for letting us know

[@lucianarico4602]

Karl, please make another video about the claiming point for work experience and the years that vetassess discounts. ( when you submit your EOI in the part of claiming points the information in the ? Sign is confusing . It said that you should claim the years that are in the skill assessment. Thanks 🙏

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it is confusing, we have a video already about deeming dates I think but be careful NSW have their own ideas

[@mohammedsalmankhan3546]

Hi Karl, when can we expect the new point system to be implemented in the current financial year or next financial year and when will be the next invitation round coming December and followed by May /June? Thanks much appreciated

[@ailsaustralia]

Good question! Points test maybe not till 25-26 year. Yes we expect a pattern like that

[@HS-hi6wc]

How does Australian DOHA get away with such reckless behaviour... From their covid promises to the 485 "glitch". Isn't there an internal body that holds them accountable for this?

[@estellebright2579]

Unfortunately no, and that’s the scary part. They never had any body internally to police their practices, and likely never will. Reason? Just a simple “protect national security and community safety”.

[@HS-hi6wc]

@estellebright2579 Awful. It sounds like hegemony and discrimination. I think they should be taken to court collectively.

[@ailsaustralia]

I really wish there was, they are completely unaccountable to the public

[@VickyRueMadziwa]

@@HS-hi6wcin other countries there are not for profit organizations that hold government accountable, especially those that work with refugees, immigration etc

[@seanalfred7457]

Hi Karl, is this any different to getting engaged or married after your visa has been granted, but you have not made your first entry into Australia?

[@alikhral]

I have applied for VIC 190 visa, as a mechanical engineer, since jan 2023. Its been more than 18 months. Is there any way to get visa expedited?

[@navinvr]

Iv turnd 45 while waiting for my 491 grant. Wondering if this will change because my points for age become 0 at 45.

[@ailsaustralia]

No it is only partner points at time of decision, all the rest time of invitation

[@deet1558]

I’m a bricklayer and I’m going to Perth in September from Ireland.

[@ailsaustralia]

ENjoy your trip!

[@mikys-aus-diary]

Rules are clear. If you claimed single points you cannot change your relationship status. You are claiming 10 points for being single. For someone who is already married, they will lose those points and have to spend money on PTE and skill assessment to regain those points. If you claim to be single and then marrying someone means you are claiming 10 points and jumping the queue ahead. If you knew you are getting married in December or possibly before the visa is granted then should have claimed the correct points. I stand with the department of home affairs on this decision. Blaming the content published on website doesn’t give you the right to cheat on those 10 points. You could have taken an advise from a migration agent on this issue. P.S - I agree that waiting for 4 years is unfair. That is the only thing Department has done wrong on this case.

[@ash1983-h8j]

@@mikys-aus-diary that is what exactly everyone complaining here. If you have such rule, then simply process the visa in 12 months, at max 18 months. Or else, freeze this partner points at the time of lodgement, just like other points.. simple :)

[@jordancompetenteaguilar2860]

494 visa labour agreement nominated in DAMA South australia can work FIFO?

[@meminitasmania]

Now that’s a complete joke. In Australia you can have as many partners as you want regardless of whether you are married or not and it’s not against law. But you can’t get legally married to save your visa.

[@ailsaustralia]

It is a disgraceful set up that is for sure

[@AprezaRenaldy]

​@@ailsaustraliaIndonesians don't even want to immigrate to Australia. And Australia could still have an immigration crisis. 😂😂

[@ljynk]

Rookie mistake though if they hired agents. It's pretty well-known that any new condition change should not reduce your points at the time of invitation. E.g. if you claimed 10 points single, then added a skilled partner with competent English, the DoHA will still approve the visa. I know this and I DIYed my 190 application.

[@amalpeter374]

Hello, how can I contact you

[@amalpeter374]

Iam in your same situation

[@ljynk]

@@amalpeter374 I'm not an agent. You can post your question here

[@amalpeter374]

@@ljynk I married, then my spouse completed PTE English, and I passed NAATI CCL exam. But the Case officer did not consider this.

[@ljynk]

@@amalpeter374 Your spouse also need to have skill assessment so she got 10 points.

[@solomonlaspinas7131]

My partner is a new zealand citizen. Does she belong under the permanent resident option?

[@AndresOspinaMorales]

No doubt, you are one of the last good Australians.

[@ailsaustralia]

Hope not, but thanks for the support

[@ramanach880]

This is so sad, appreciate Karl for discussing this issue.

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks, just rying to make sure everyone knows

[@estellebright2579]

Thanks to some earlier videos from Karl, I was fully aware of this partner points being assessed at the time to decision thing, so during my wait for my visa grant, I didn’t even attempt to find any partner, let alone going into any sort of relationship. I feel sorry for those people who are entering a relationship before visa grant, either by their own accord, or pressured by family members, thus losing points in the process. DOHA’s misleading wording and deceptive practice did not receive the justice they deserve.

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks Estelle yes we did our best to get to people and Im glad they gave you warning, but unfortunately we can't reach everyone

[@quaityboi]

I got stucked for 7 years because of this condition in my previous visa and at the time that AU invited me for 189 visa. DHA should be considerate to applicants since the processing of PR visa takes a considerable amount of time.

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes they should be

[@blessythomas6851]

What is the processing time of 482 Medium visa

[@awaismahmood18]

Hi Sir, Plz made video about 482 visa. Plz explain all aspects about this visa. Thanks

[@ailsaustralia]

Will do!

[@MamataKhatri-g5t]

hi, would you please make your next video regarding dependent visa and combine visa

[@user-fh3rr8lm9o]

I am in the same situation as him. I received an S56 asking me if I want to add my wife to the application or not. And received an acknowledgement of a valid applicant. This is ridiculous if it is true.

[@ailsaustralia]

I'm sad to hear that, book a time if you want to talk about it

[@shansiva]

I applied for a partner visa and over 19 months and requested to do 2nd medical assessment, keeps getting delayed. My experience with immigration was really bad and lost close to over 23000$ My partner pregnant now and I can't travel due to my training purposes and immigration stating not valid reason to priorities my case.

[@ailsaustralia]

I know they are incredibly bad on so many levels hope it gets better for you soon

[@wahajaazmi5490]

My kid is 5year old now but I am not planning second because I am waiting for the grant of 491

[@ailsaustralia]

Children don't affect the points levels so feel free to have another one

[@wahajaazmi5490]

@@ailsaustralia thanks

[@shauncs]

@wahajaazmi5490 good luck on your grant. Any idea about kids school fees?

[@wahajaazmi5490]

@@shauncs I am waiting for the grant dear

[@lynvictoria]

So finding a partner will let you apply a partner visa, but having an adult child with AU citizen parent can’t apply for family stream unless 25yrs below. Even being skilled, still need to wait for years to get invited for 491 visa. Unlike the partner visa the person will get bridging straight away. 😢

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes there has always been an issue of children over the age of 25 are no generally longer dependents

[@minecraftlux1483]

Hi Karl, hope you're doin good. I wanted to as you to clear an ambiguity, recently the government scrapped extensions of 485 for students studying high demand courses So, has the government also scrapped extensions on 485 for student who live in regional and major regional centres which can get you 1-2 years extension on 485?

[@ailsaustralia]

The regional extensions still apply

[@zubbairmemon50]

Electronic instrument Trade worker (special class) waiting for invitation? 189 65 points, 190 70 points, 491 80 points? What are chances of trade occupations like me?

[@ailsaustralia]

Sorry can't answer those types of questions but best of luck!

[@SrihariK-h2f]

Hi karl, I applied for my 190 visa with 90 points in jun 2023 I had applied with 5 yrs experience On 11th Nov 2023 i completed 8yrs, so i get 5 more points On 20th Nov 2023 i got married and lose 5 points So the score still remains 90 Will this be considered?

[@ailsaustralia]

Remember all other citeria are frozen at the time you got the invitation

[@jalaluddinqureshi5500]

Hi Karl, I hope you are doing great. My question is when will the department launch the new points select Statem, and when will states receive the 190 & 491 allocations, thanks.

[@ailsaustralia]

Good question! Soon for the allocations but a new points test, maybe discussed more during this year

[@jalaluddinqureshi5500]

@@ailsaustralia Thank you so much for your time

[@jayson4602]

Single people still get 10 points? In this case isn't it better to apply as someone single if you're not married with your partner yet?

[@rohitjoshi8132]

This is misleading to Immigration. If you are in a relationship (not marries) but apply as single applicant just to get those 10 points, then it's misleading. Rather, apply as couple and see if Ur partner can get points also.

[@jayson4602]

@@rohitjoshi8132 You misunderstood me. If you're single you get 10 points. If you're not married but with a foreign partner, you get 0 point or 10 pts. So in this case, people should apply as a single if they know they would get 0 point.

[@rohitjoshi8132]

@@jayson4602 I understand your perspective. I obtained my Permanent Residency (PR) through a similar process, with the distinction that my partner who is foreign national is a highly skilled and was working in her field and possesses a superior English proficiency score. According to your reasoning, it seems you are considering applying as a single applicant despite being in a relationship. This approach, aimed at not forfeiting the additional 10 points due to your partner's lack of skills or English proficiency, is misleading to the immigration authorities. Such exploitation of loopholes impacts genuine applicants adversely. Couples where both partners are skilled and possess superior English scores face stricter regulations as immigration authorities are aware of these loopholes. Should you proceed with applying as a single applicant and subsequently obtain PR, the challenge arises when securing PR for your partner. For a partner visa, you must demonstrate the duration and legitimacy of your relationship. If you have been in a relationship or married for a year or more, immigration officials will question the inconsistency of your single status application. Do you believe the Immigration Department overlooks such discrepancies? You must either remain single post-PR approval or ensure your partner is skilled and possesses the requisite English proficiency if you wish to maintain those 10 points. Rather than exploiting loopholes, which may ultimately lead to application rejection and jeopardize future visa applications, I recommend that your partner enhance their skills and English proficiency. Consulting a proficient immigration lawyer, such as Mr. Karl Konrad, who is highly regarded, would provide you with sound guidance.

[@rohitjoshi8132]

​@jayson4602 I understand your perspective, but it is important to clarify that misleading the Immigration department is a serious offense. I obtained my Permanent Residency (PR) through my partner, who contributed 10 points as a skilled partner working as an accountant with superior English proficiency. Your intention to claim the extra 10 points by presenting yourself as single is, in fact, a misrepresentation. If you apply as a single applicant and receive PR, how do you plan to subsequently prove your relationship to Immigration? They require comprehensive documentation of your relationship or marriage. For instance, if you gain PR on July 20, 2024, and later apply for your partner’s PR, Immigration will demand evidence of a long-standing relationship. Should you state that you were married on March 20, 2023, or any earlier date, they will question why you applied as a single applicant. Immigration is well aware of these tactics. If you wish to claim the extra 10 points, you have two options: remain single until one year after receiving your PR or ensure that your partner meets the criteria for a skilled occupation and achieves a superior English score. Misrepresenting your situation complicates the process for genuine applicants, including both single individuals and skilled couples. For accurate guidance, I recommend consulting a reputable Immigration lawyer. Karl Konrad, for instance, is highly regarded.

[@rohitjoshi8132]

@@jayson4602 I understand your perspective. I also obtained my permanent residency in a similar manner. However, my partner is skilled, works as an accountant, and has a superior English score, which contributed an additional 10 points to my application. It is important to acknowledge that attempting to mislead immigration authorities by downplaying your partner’s lack of skills to retain points is unethical. Such actions exploit loopholes that immigration officials are aware of, ultimately complicating the process for genuine single applicants and skilled couples. This behavior contributes to stricter immigration laws, making it difficult for truly deserving applicants. I have witnessed many skilled individuals and their equally skilled partners struggle under these increasingly stringent regulations due to such practices by people like you.

[@dasarikrishnachaitanya]

Hi Karl, I am in the same boat as I got married after the invitation, but I got my partners skills assessed and also have my partner take PTE where she got at least 6 in each band, so is that good enough for 10 points and would it impact my application status

[@ailsaustralia]

It seems if the skill assessment and English was in place when you received the invitation they will accept this

[@dasarikrishnachaitanya]

@@ailsaustralia the skill assessment and English has been done after the invitation, so the scenario is I got invited and I have applied for my 190 application in April 2023 and my partner has completed her skills assessment and and PTE and in may 2024 and we got married in June 2024. Does this create an issue to my 190 application now?

[@shehroz00000]

@@dasarikrishnachaitanya can i talk to you regarding this? I have one reply screenshot from immigration

[@chintharamchand7565]

@@shehroz00000 Can I have the screen shot please

[@dasarikrishnachaitanya]

@@shehroz00000 can I get the screenshot

[@ssemakulaabdulmalik2903]

Karl i want to come to Australia using the 190 visa and ive already done my assessment buh how long does it take for a state in Australia to pick interest in me and the provess continues . Am a Public health specialist by profession

[@edsonbarbosa4978]

1 month

[@TojiFushiguro-o7v]

How about PTE English points do they get assessed when your EOI gets selected and you get invited or when you submit the visa application or when you get the visa? I am confused?

[@salmanmostafa8346]

At the time of invitation

[@ailsaustralia]

yes all other criteria are at the time you received the invitation

[@AeshaShah]

Hi Karl, any idea when they will be giving grants to people who have lodged visas from April, may, june'23

[@ailsaustralia]

Depends what for but generally skilled visas take 1 year + and regional a little longer

[@MohdAdil-pi1hd]

I would shamal should have waited for visa grant.

[@ailsaustralia]

Hopefully his visa will be granted

[@ranashahbaz9166]

Hi, sir. We as a family applied for 190 and 491 with 80 points, but the partnenr as only a graduation degree and no English proficiency marks . Can we expect an invitation as we have been waiting since July 2023 sales and marketing manger

[@ailsaustralia]

Sorry cannot answer those types of questions but best of luck

[@sevill88]

How about the partner english test? We are still waiting our PR to be granted through 190 visa, and my partners english test is expired. We were already married at the time of application. Does he still need to take english test again before the visa is granted?

[@ailsaustralia]

Proving functional English for partners is a requirement. Please check the departments requirements on that issue

[@sevill88]

@@ailsaustralia We got the invitation and applied for PR and provide sufficiend english document at the time of application. Becausw now you said partner skills will be assesed at the time of decision, we are all trying to understand if partners must get new English test even if they already provide at the time of the application

[@glittergirl380]

Hi Karl so the government is going to do nothing for 485 age cap for the existing students? How wise is it to wait and watch for some relief as my husband's 500 visa expires in 6 months. Is it better to try other visa options? Please do suggest me Karl, i find only you the most genuine and helpful person. Thanks a million.

[@ailsaustralia]

For now you had better investigate all other options I'm afraid

[@flemingmeendee6917]

the problem is there is no visa you can apply for why because all the other visas need a skills assesment and getting it takes time of which most people are finishing school now or in 3 months.The department knows this,they should have at least refunded fees,the other visa you can have is partner visa provided a local marries you,the issue is unlike phd and masters by research student all other students have not acted accordingly and approached parliament,phd and masters by research students did so and went to parliament

[@muno-l5l]

try 482 asap,look for employer

[@HasancanAkaydn]

Thank you for continously enlightening us with your great videos weekly! Dear Mr. Karl, I would like to ask, what would be my chances for obtaining an invitation in this financial year, as an offshore civil engineer with 90 points, pursuing 190 with superior English and 4 years of experience. Thanks in advance 😊

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks for your support. Sorry we can't answer what are your chances questions in this format but we wish you the best of luck

[@ShanakaBandara-tb7kd]

If I'm an offshore applicant, then can I marry after get the 491 Visa grant but before the first entry to Australia ?

[@ailsaustralia]

YOu will need the grant letter carefully to check that when the times comes.

[@ShanakaBandara-tb7kd]

@@ailsaustralia if it doesn't mention anything about 8515 visa condition, then I can marry before my first entry. Is that correct?

[@aqheelahmed406]

I have applied 190 in the month may 2023 but still no decision what should i do any advise you can give plz

[@ailsaustralia]

You should have a good chance of being processed from till Xmas. Hope it goes well for you

[@jassandhu170]

Hi karl, i have lodged EOI with dentist occupation at 70 pts and i have included my partner . When will be the next invitation round is going to happen for 491? And what are the chances? I appreciate if you reply

[@ailsaustralia]

Sorry cannot answer those types of questions but best of luck

[@memilind1992]

I hope this isn’t the case for other points such as skill, age, experience etc.

[@ailsaustralia]

No not at all since they are all time of invitation

[@upamasandapani3613]

Hi Karl, do we need continue to work in the same Job position until we get the visa after getting the invitation?

[@ailsaustralia]

no not at all, leaving your job has no impact

[@upamasandapani3613]

@@ailsaustralia 🙏🙏

[@overseasuser]

Such a great idea to have case studies with applicants 👍

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks, it snot always easy for people to come out and discuss their personal experinces

[@mohammedjunaid9656]

Just saw an update on dha website related to whv for indians... Places allocated are 500 instead of 1000 agreed in IndAus FTA That too if implemented later is an insult for the country with worlds largest population..... China has 5000 seats that too according to DHA receives overwhelming response... Now with $25 battot fee is on top of everything, seems like dept wants to earn money from young Indians by selling it as lottery ticket with winning chances of less than 1% or 0.1%....

[@mohammedjunaid9656]

Indias median age is like 28 and if all eligible people apply each year, Australia'S debt will be paid soon in some years....😂 Soon this idea will be copied by UK with 3000 places for young indian graduates😊

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it seems they are certainly not looking after oour Mates are they. Thanks for pointing that out for us and I will check it out for the next edition.

[@uvarajanganesbaran5173]

Hi Conrad, thank you for your videos. A quick question, m on my second year of 491. is it ok if I get married now or will it affect my visa? TIA

[@ailsaustralia]

Once the 491 is granted then yes fine to get married

[@uvarajanganesbaran5173]

@@ailsaustralia how if my spouse is offshore, can I bring her in?

[@mobasherasultanashishir3948]

You mean after granting 491, I just get married and go Australia alone. Then my spouse can apply from offshore 491 subsequent visa at next week/month?​@@ailsaustralia

[@ItsAllLens]

Karl!! What you suggest? Should we apply for the 476 visa refund?

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes you should becuase this government will not change I'm afraid

[@MrHappy0485]

Hi Karl, I'm on 491 visa living in regional South Australia(Renmark) and applied 491 subsequent entrant for my wife on 6th feb 2024 and still waiting for the outcome. So is it good decision to apply for tourist visa for my wife now or you recommend me to wait for 491 outcome. Your guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks 😊

[@ailsaustralia]

They could giver a tourist visa but in most cases they seem not to.

[@sumitsharma5050]

I am 37 and enrolled in MBA. After spending thousands of $$$ the government sort of deceived me when they made it a policy that they will not give me a TR. Don't know what to do now - are all doors locked for people like me? I carry a lot of work experience but they don't want skilled people anymore I guess.

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it is completely unjust but the moment the options do not look promising without a employer to sponsor you

[@ennkay2756]

I am 41. First covid hit and when I got my ducks in a row the conditions were tightened

[@sumitsharma5050]

@@ailsaustralia Thanks, I still believe that they will revoke this 'unjust' policy once the elections are over. 🤞🏻

[@sumitsharma5050]

@@ennkay2756 What visa are you on now?

[@ennkay2756]

@@sumitsharma5050 I am completing my documents currently and the news everyday are not promising especially the high rejection rate for visas. I am so confused if I should apply for PR or student visa or employer sponsored.

[@birjubarot3903]

Civil engineer technician 491 75 points WA chances??

[@ailsaustralia]

Nit sure but good luck!

[@user-nh8bi9gy7p]

Yes, you can be nominated with 75 points in WA

[@birjubarot3903]

@@user-nh8bi9gy7p thanks

[@huanvincent6020]

So what happened next if he failed to get the visa ?

[@ailsaustralia]

He can appeal, or if lucky get another ivitation to apply

[@mdhifjurrahman5251]

They have mentioned this thousands of time during your application that you should not get married untill your visa decision is finalised.

[@ailsaustralia]

Who is they?

[@Mdy541]

These are very frustrating rules most of us remained single just because of these rules. And a very long wait literally years for the decision 😢

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes some for years, others are just hiding it

[@rahulkhemani5414]

Hi Karl, Firstly, thanks for doing such great job and keeping everyone up to date regarding the changing visa requirements/conditions! Could you please clarify if this scenario is applicable in case of changing age, experience, or if your PTE score gets expired? I hope that this all should be good before you lodge your visa application as those are the points on the basis of which your nomination was issued and your application was locked right? Now, as we know that all visa applications are taking over 18-24 months to get processed so the points tests circumstances might change for most of the people as during that course of time, your PTE score might get expired, same can be the case with your skill assessment. If you can throw some light on the same, would appreciate it!

[@ailsaustralia]

You don't need to worry about those points becuase they are all assessed at the time you received your invitation to apply.

[@rahulkhemani5414]

@@ailsaustralia Thanks Karl! Appreciate your valuable inputs here mate.

[@baljinderkaur254]

Hi I have 2 years full time experience as chef in South Australia.can I am eligible for regional western Australia dama ENS186 visa?

[@ailsaustralia]

It depends on the reuirements but yes it maybe possible if you have the right skill assessment

[@Peaceandlove-11]

Thank you so much Karl.. 189 seats for FY 2023-24 = 30375. 189 Allocations in FY 2023-24 = 8300 + 5292 = 13592. Could you please tell about the remaining allocations 16783? Have the DOHA reduced the 189 allocations number for FY 2023-24 ? Please guide.

[@ailsaustralia]

Remember an applicant with wife and 2 kids takes 4 of those allocations.

[@Peaceandlove-11]

Then how does it fulfill the skill shortage ? 30375 were supposed to be the skilled immigrants right ?

[@venubalireddy2672]

Can we contact DHA to give output on our visa application by saying this delay getting affect on our married life? Coz people can’t wait years to get marry….

[@ailsaustralia]

I wish there is an avenue!

[@eserelif]

They are simply mocking with people, no any other explanation…

[@saadalam9663]

What about age? Are the points calculated at the time of invitation or when the case officer is processing visa application?

[@ailsaustralia]

Age is set at the time of invitation

[@johra717]

Partner visa 309 processing office I India is worst

[@keziahnjuguna7454]

Hi Karl, if I get 491 visa can I get married immediately?

[@ailsaustralia]

Yep!

[@TajulIslamtajul39]

Any problem, if I get married after getting granted ...?😊

[@ailsaustralia]

No thats fine

[@maleesharavindi3733]

@@ailsaustraliawhat if we get married and don’t inform them until PR grants?🥲

[@glittergirl380]

Hi Karl, I have heard that after applying or getting 407 training visa, we can't apply for any other visa, is that so? Or we can still apply for PR or some other visas? Thanks a lot in advance. Any good news about TR visa for above 35 existing students?

[@anywaytechreview]

407 is a TR visa and yes you can apply for other TR visa after training visa but if you 36 and above, you cannot apply for PSW but you can always apply for other TR work visas and when you are eligible, you can apply for eligible PR visa

[@ailsaustralia]

There are no restrictions just because you have a 407 visa

[@bineshkapali]

This is so cruel, I have applied and I am unmarried, now I cannot marry before the invitation or the decision

[@ailsaustralia]

You can marry before your invitation as long as your EOI reflects this. But yes overall it is very cruel that is why we have highlighted it

[@hussainjaffri3141]

Thanks Karl

[@ailsaustralia]

Your welcome

[@Decode_Existence]

How Australian can chose to be incharge of something thats very unfair keeps people from settling & start a family. This is even against human rights .

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it is indeed and we still may investigate that issue

[@prasu1769]

191 grants are so slow look like nobody caring regional visas

[@ailsaustralia]

They should speed up soon

[@prasu1769]

@@ailsaustralia hope so sir .before year it was only processing time like 1 to 2month and now already 7 month .most applications are straight forward

[@estellebright2579]

@@prasu1769 191 is designed to be as straightforward as possible. Slow processing time can only be contributed to fewer case officers working on it.

[@prasu1769]

@@estellebright2579 but we all spending 3 years in regional and still waiting for permanent residence is so stressful ..it’s the longest permanent residence pathway ever

[@estellebright2579]

@@prasu1769 no one knows how DOHA manages all of their caseloads. I just offer one possible explanation. 191 was indeed granted quickly initially when cases were far and few between, not so much today. Still, there’s nothing much we can do to tell them to prioritise your group, cause otherwise every group would want to be prioritised, and then no group would be prioritised.

[@abduljabbar8984]

Thanks for information

[@ailsaustralia]

Your welcome

[@shehroz00000]

What about if someone married and manage to gain 10 points again by skill assessment and Ielts??

[@ailsaustralia]

There is no case that I know of they accept skill assessments and English after the application has been applied for

[@SrihariK-h2f]

I applied for 190 visa with 90 points in june 2023 I had applied with 5 yrs of experience when i applied On 11 Nov 2023 i completed 8yrs so i get 5 points extra On 20 Nov 2023 i got married so i lose 5 points So the points are still 90 Will this be considered?

[@victorwilks88]

Brilliant info as always 👏

[@ailsaustralia]

Thanks Victor

[@khanalvishnu]

Immigration has gone mad! Narcissistic

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it certainly changed for the worse in the last 20 years

[@jaatkthaat7]

I did my masters from Deakin in 2019, and lodge my visa at 85 points. Then this rule came that single will get 10 extra points. All of my friends who were single went to 95 points, and are citizen now😢😢😢😢. Unfortunately, I was married during that visa changes, Its 2024 now and I'm on student visa, and all my unmarried friends are citizen😂😂😂😂. I was the first person who cleared pte and NAATI in my Group😂😂😂😂😂

[@ailsaustralia]

Yes it really makes a mokery of the system because your freinds will go out now and get married anyway so what is the point of disadvantaging someone who already has a partner

[@xuyanyue7459]

anyone wants to make protest on this visa processing drama，comment here

[@ailsaustralia]

processing times unfortunately do not seem to have improved a great deal except of temporary visas

[@Baaz4ill]

👍

[@belalhosensarder7277]

Salute YOU sir, Pl's get me a work visa. I want to your help. 😂

[@TommasoCau]

Why working so hard for so long then mess everything up only to rush getting married. As per my personal experience, everyone knows not to change their relationship status while waiting!

[@AprezaRenaldy]

Indonesians don't even want to immigrate to Australia. And Australia could still have an immigration crisis. 😂😂

[@user-lt3bt7nj8j]

I feel sorry for you 😢

[@ailsaustralia]

Im sure they appreciate your concern

[@belalhosensarder7277]

Pl's get me a work visa for Australia.

[@ailsaustralia]

Sorry cannt help with that unless you already have a company to sponsor you

[@belalhosensarder7277]

@@ailsaustralia It is only dream. Pl's help me? I am very interested to work in your country for# Australia #

[@cads877]

I may be able to help

[@graceapereirapereira1887]

Hi, My son is interested in applying for a PR subclass 190 visa as a Procurement Specialist under the job code 224999 (Information and Organisation Professionals NEC). He has over five years of experience in this field, with one year of experience in Melbourne. Considering that this job code has been in existence since 2013 and has seen limited intake in recent years, what are his chances of securing the PR? Thank you.

[@ailsaustralia]

Sorry cannot answer what are my chances questions