Autistic People CAN Read Faces!

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Жыл бұрын

until recently, people thought that facial expressions are universal & that autistic people lack the ability to recognize that. it turns out that this couldn't be further from the truth!
Check out the full essay! • Face Facts - Autism & ...

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@morphingfaces Жыл бұрын

Thanx for talking about this it's important to challenge ableism and educate people to be aware of the ableism that is normalized and prolific in society

@spaceghost3941 Жыл бұрын

A lot search for the true intent underneath the expressions bc they've been tricked so many times by false emotions. As you said a smile can mean many things underneath the surface.

@SynthApprentice Жыл бұрын

NT people: "these are the symptoms of autism!" Actually autistic people: "none of that really fits most of us. Like... at all."

@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын

*NT people* "These are symptoms of autism." *People with Autism* "None of that fits us at all." When writing a script, colons aren't used; instead the character's name is emboldened and placed directly above their line. A colon is only supposed to be used after a complete sentence. 👍🏻

@MartKart8 Жыл бұрын

I once knew a person that only frowned when I was around her, when I mentioned to her that she was frowning she said, no I'm not. She only frowned around me, and no one else, back then. Then again, she did make a joke about my name, because it's similar to famous person's name, who was killed and had a strong belief for human equal rights.

@mammoneymelon Жыл бұрын

🙏 i don't think i really struggle with facial expressions? honestly i think sometimes i just forget to take them into account lol i'm awful at recognizing tone though, it got me in a lot of trouble as a kid lol

@TheABSRDST Жыл бұрын

this is like a life changing video tbh

@DapperMrAlex 9 ай бұрын

I think Ive always been good at reading faces because I always look anywhere but the eyes and try to maintain the illusion of eye contact, so I often see subtle shifts around the mouth or above the eyes that some others might not catch or wouldn't consciously notice.

@anitanielsen1061 Жыл бұрын

“STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS 😡” Dad says

@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын

Learning when assumptions are accurate and when they are not and applying that knowledge to reliably assess when assumptions should be made is a very useful ability to learn. It has to be learned with Autistic brains though, as our brains have a deficit when it comes to social concerns.

@svaira Жыл бұрын

I think the title of this video is totally off, it should have been "some autistic people can interpret face positions/facial muscle arrangements", because A) we're not talking about different faces (i.e. the equivalent of phrenology), so it's about the muscles and their position, not the face itself (like interpretation what it means if someone has a huge nose etc) B) it's about interpretation, not reading, because there is no writing system for arbitrary information here (which is also why I wouldn't call gestures "body language", as they're symbols out of small vocabulary, not an actual language with arbitrary words) And most importantly C) because it's only some autistic people who can to any extent or for any goal make sense of someone's facial muscles. I for instance can not. I may have some intuitions about that "something is there", but because I can't prove anything and because it's probably wrong, I don't think I have a good interpretation going there and instead I choose to ignore all of it and just focus instead on what the person is saying. (I also think it's generally the best to interact with anyone that way, and in fact I think it's morally wrong to treat someone different for a certain facial muscle arrangement. What if they just have a strange form of stress, eye disease etc? is what one should think about before making judgments our of incomplete/ unclear information. It's fine to make hypotheses from this, but if you do / can / are comfortable enough doing, I think it's your duty to ask if you were correct or not, both to not talk / act over the other person and to know in the first place when you are wrong about this. Not doing this make, in my view, the allistic population the group that actually has communication problems, as they seem to interact more by non-communication than by actual, understandable communication)

@Ember_Green Жыл бұрын

I can't read all that, but that's not a very catchy title. I need to consider marketing. Did you watch the full essay?

@svaira Жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green I guess I think a "catchy title" isn't good if it's just wrong. You could have at least gone with something like "some autistics can interpret facial arrangements" or such. The summary of my argument is, that there are people, like me, who can't understand these kinds of things, and although, like you pointed out, it may be possible to interpret something out of it, I choose not to because I think it's morally wrong and just straight up creepy to stare at other people's faces to guess their thoughts, it seems much more appropriate to ask them and let them decide how much of their own trauma they want to expose (which is also a lot more accurate than guessing, even if you are just after the information)

@svaira Жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green And yes, I watched the video, I understand that people make different face expressions for different reasons etc. I just wanted to point out that not everyone is capable or wants to look at this stuff constantly, and that I think there is a real privacy issue here, as I don't think I could ever know what my face looks like without looking at a mirror, so I don't know what people want to understand there. I generally think it would be better than if we would work to make these kinds of face "reading" unacceptable in society, rather than just going along with this idea that it's our responsibility to always be careful how are eyes, mouth etc is positioned to not accidentally reveal trauma that might be used against us

@svaira Жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green Or if you want it as a question: I get that I could learn it, but why should I bother to learn a skill that's only about prying into other people's privacy? If someone wants me to know their in pain, they'll tell me. If not, it's not for me to know. I just think this is really absurd. (This is in general the reason I despise "social skills training" etc, it just teaches us to be more presumptuous and playing along with a wrong game, whereas I think it's my duty to challenge those rules at least a bit, and not learning to try to "see through" someone's involuntary facial expressions is the least I can do)

@svaira Жыл бұрын

@@Ember_Green (there are of course exceptions, like art pieces or images put out for the public, or people who know you very well who give consent etc, but I would never even think about "reading" a random person's face, it just sounds too awful for me to even consider it)

@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын

I have an Epileptic AuDHD brain, the issue I have with facial expressions; Isn't that I struggle to understand them, but I can read and understand them far too well. I don't like watching people's faces because it's like I'm reading their mind. My on the spot assessments are accurate, and explaining how I've objectively verified this would come under brandolini's law. Reading minds is not a superpower, it's a curse and it is extremely anxiety inducing.

@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын

This is simply my conjecture that I have garnered through self observation, hypothesis at best. I don't have sufficient empirical evidence to support my hypothesis in any real objective manner. The ADHD part of my brain prevents me from organising to the point of creating a thesis on it too. In fact, this is the first time I've written it out.