I Won a Broken 6.0 Ford E350 Diesel Bus from IAA Sight Unseen! Will it Run?

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@jaysmobilemechanicservices 7 ай бұрын

Randy, doing a DIagnosis on this van is very straight forward. Its definitely not a fuel related issue. Its going to be a high pressure oil issue. The 6.0 uses a Heui system to fire the injectors, just like a 7.3 Powerstroke. It takes base oil pressure (base engine oil pressure) to make high pressure oil using a high pressure oil pump. The truck needs a minimum of 500 psi (high pressure oil) to fire the injectors. The first thing I noticed on the left side of the instrument cluster is your oil pressure guage. I noticed when you were trying to start the truck the needle didn't move at all. Normally, the needle would move to the half way position while cranking to indicate you have base oil pressure. Here, I noticed the needle wasn't moving. Be sure to check your oil level. You could very well have a base oil pressure issue. Usually on one of these engine when it fails to make base oil pressure, its usually a failed lifter and the needle bearings from the lifter make their way up in the front pump gears and trash front oil gears. If you need any help reach out to me. Thanks, Jay!

@patriotgarage 7 ай бұрын

Don't forget Ford oil pressure gauges are warning lights. Either it's there or it isn't. That said you are on the right path.

@Poison_Raccoon 7 ай бұрын

He did check the oil level

@Outtlaw981 7 ай бұрын

My dad had a 2003 F350 power stroke with the 6.0. He had the high-pressure oil pump go out in it and it stopped running. it is set up so if the oil pump breaks, it will not let the vehicle run anymore, so it won’t run out of oil.

@smarternu 7 ай бұрын

Spot On. great engines, just gotta be right or cold no start.

@robnelson-yf6ut 7 ай бұрын

Going be HPOP going be pain van

@loganlovescarsandmotorcycles 7 ай бұрын

The good thing about the 6.0 is it's old enough that the issues and fixes are known. This bus has potential.

@10100rsn 7 ай бұрын

That passenger check alarm system there disables the engine. There is probably another button or two in the back above each door you have to push before it will allow you to start and run the engine. Its like an electronic check list to ensure the doors and passengers are secure.

@landlubber1967 7 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing about this buggy, Randy. There could be some sort of electrical component or safety switch preventing the magic from happening. Would be nice if it was a door close switch but could be a safety switch for the lift or doors. 72K on a 6.0 shouldn't be in the territory of the injection pump or oil pump. I suspect that the annoying beep could be a switch preventing you from getting it going in one video. Fingers crossed.

@teknoboy2846 7 ай бұрын

Actually usually this is 99% of the time a shift interlock, making It won't let you shift the bus to drive reverse or even neutral if the buttons aren't pushed. but it'll still let it run they have to do that because the passengers require AC or heat in some instances. There are some though very few that had the won't let it start option.

@fasteddy917 7 ай бұрын

Another, you don't see one on every channel, vehicle. Thank you for constantly bringing unique offerings to the channel. I hope your vacation is going well and is enjoyable.

@daviddelgado5954 7 ай бұрын

Man! You have a perfect canvas to create the best camper ever!!

@joshc7765 7 ай бұрын

I'd live in that thing

@keithl7407 7 ай бұрын

Lots ot people do that now and would love to convert that.... heck even I want to lol

@RS-oy7uh 7 ай бұрын

Much respect to you Randy. You show the good the bad the ugly. Looking forward to part 2 . Watching from Cebu, in the Philippines 🌴🌴🌴🌴

@darrenfox5883 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Randy for bringing such a different vehicle to your channel. You are a brave man! Don’t let the truck get you down. You’ll mend this! In the meantime enjoy your vacation!

@noahwolter4714 7 ай бұрын

As someone who is a fleet mechanic on e series shuttle buses you got a good deal on it but you need to make sure park brake is on to shut that alarm off it is a shift interlock system for the wheelchair lift second we only buy the 6.8 v10 versions I have heard the diesel in those are absolute bear to work on and even with my gas engine it is usually a motor out to do any work on them but if you have any questions I know them inside and out

@landlubber1967 7 ай бұрын

I sure would try these basic tricks first. I was thinking it was related to fancy switches but it would be amazing if it was just the parking brake switch!

@CCerwin 7 ай бұрын

If they changed the oil filter with aftermarket filter the check ball inside the filter failed or they installed a filter without a check ball and spring and you lost oil pressure. Easy stuff first. Also use a vacuum hose from the cabin through the dog box and spray silicone into the air box. Yes silicone spray, or order starting fluid with lubricant inside for diesels. A diesel engine will start and run off of strait silicone spray. Running it longer will bring up fuel pressure and oil pressure this way but change that engine oil filter and fuel filter to the correct oem filters first.

@MrAcutecareems 7 ай бұрын

Good tip but the van oil filter does not have a check ball. It is installed upside down on the side of the engine. No need for check ball to keep it from draining down.

@jeremypinkerton1843 7 ай бұрын

Had the same issue with my 6.0 i am also a diesel mechanic and on mine it was stand pipes and dummy plugs there o-rings on them that blow and cause a loss of oil pressure also do check your hpop and ipr all common issues on the 6.0

@joemtbr5052 7 ай бұрын

Sitting here totally want this baby to start. I'm sure you'll eventually figure it our. Until then we'll all be waiting for the next video. Have a nice vacation.

@shawnstillman736 7 ай бұрын

You don't have any low pressure oil. The low pressure pump is fairly easy to change you remove the crank pulley and 4 bolts it slides right off. Your a brave man buying a 6.oh in a van! lol

@smoothoperator1663 7 ай бұрын

I own a 6.0 van only use motor craft parts on engine I believe in your case u need to check the FICM module u need 48 v at all times

@bk_goatkim679 7 ай бұрын

Oh boy….Randy you couldn’t resist. Love that iAA let you do this! And love these old style will it make it home videos! Keep it up randy we love your grind!

@champagneflowers8522 7 ай бұрын

Hey its the dude you met at OKC location that bought the other bus at copart in OKC. Holler when you can

@michaelmcsperitt1111 7 ай бұрын

Randy the 6.0 runs off oil pressure so if losses prime on oil pressure it take at least 500 psi to start

@thunderroad7289 7 ай бұрын

You have got to let the glow plug light go off first before you try and start it. Cycle the key a few times to get fuel in system. When you were cranking it I was hearing a dead cylinder. Need to hook a scanner up and check the oil pressure injectors need 500 to open injectors. IRP or the icp could be bad. Worse could the the high 😊pressure pump. Heck could be leaking standpipes or dummy plugs causing oil pressure problem. Best way to figure it out is take the IRP valve out and use a IRP air pressure gauge with air. If there is a leak in the system you will hear it. Van like that is super easy to get that IRP valve out. Pickups sucks. It’s actually easier to lift the cab off

@illit79 7 ай бұрын

The button panel under the driver's dash on the right side are the controls for the ez lock wheelchair system in the back area. The button panel above the ez lock controls on the driver's side lower dash is the wheelchair lift interlock control. This system prevents the wheelchair lift from working unless the vehicle is in park with the ebrake engaged.

@landlubber1967 7 ай бұрын

Randy, I have an old John Deere mower that has safety switches wired in series - i.e. all systems depend on each switch. This could very well be your best deal ever if you set the parking brake and check that the lift and door switches are happy!

@brentgilmore3281 7 ай бұрын

Hey Randy! We had one of those when I worked for EMS. I used to work overtime driving that beast all over East Texas! ETMC would pick up patients for cancer treatments and doctor appointments then take them back home. It was easy money back in the day.

@chitolopez3585 7 ай бұрын

Let the Glow light turn off first,,, then make sure you purge the fuel system /top front manifold

@gerry-p9x 7 ай бұрын

Yeah lost. Prime

@SpeedDemon1220 7 ай бұрын

Yes that is correct 👏 👍, make sure you check the fuel filter

@ItzHunterrrr 7 ай бұрын

Had a F250 with a 6.0 in it... Great engine. LOTS of power and plenty of fun, WHEN it runs good. i bought it from a person who put 15k into it, i put 7k more into it, then junked it. When these run good they run great, but when they don't you are literally throwing money away. Had the truck for 2 years and managed to put 2k miles on it in an out of shops. Didnt even need to give it an oil change GET RID OF THIS

@NoahClay6 7 ай бұрын

Loved the style of this video Randy. Also that was pretty cool of IAA to let you in and work on it while you did! Looking forward to the next part and really hoping that you can get it to run because it would sure sell for a lot more than you bought it for especially with such low mileage. I still see those buses being used quite frequently. You are definitely on the right path with this issue. This will be interesting in the next video!

@SpeedDemon1220 5 ай бұрын

Hi again Randy, if you look at the oil pressure gauge, it's is not making oil pressure ! The hi pressure oil pump is dead !

@jasonfabian1563 7 ай бұрын

Hi Randy, when I worked as a maintenance mechanic, somebody used starting fluid on one of these buses and the air intake exploded. I had to go get another one from the salvage yard. Luckily nobody was hurt

@carlbernard4197 7 ай бұрын

The idle control system allows the engine to be throttled up to run the wheelchair lift! 😊

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

It probably connects to the PTO wires

@charlesevans605 7 ай бұрын

Randy. I'm really in need to see this next episode. WHEN ?????

@slipster 7 ай бұрын

The Ford 6.0L Power Stroke engine is prone to high pressure oil pump (HPOP) failure, which can cause a “no start” condition

@zachsikes7869 7 ай бұрын

Really only the 03-04 trucks had weak pumps. The 05+ is much stronger & they don’t fail often.

@JohnLee-eq1ck 7 ай бұрын

When cranking you would see oil pressure on the dash gage if it was the HPOP. My money is on the IPR being bad.

@dustra5000 7 ай бұрын

@@zachsikes7869 the 05 still has stand pipes with o-rings that can tear and cause leaks

@zachsikes7869 7 ай бұрын

@@dustra5000 of course. I was talking about the pump itself. Personally my 05 has 260k & original dummy plugs & stand pipes & injectors & water pump & alternator & turbo etc..

@dustra5000 7 ай бұрын

@@zachsikes7869 they did beef up the 05 pumps for sure, I do believe earlier builds make more power tho, so its a red vs blue pill thing

@TexasLeatherDallas 7 ай бұрын

I ENJOY WATCHING YOU EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@In_memory_of_Dad 7 ай бұрын

Dam Randy I'm sat here in the UK watching this video wishing I was there with you right now helping you fix that bus. I would love to get my hands on it and fix it, diesels are my speciality!!!

@saschadino 7 ай бұрын

Hi Randy, i´m a viewer from germany and i just wanted to say that i love your videos. i can learn so much from them and i just wanted to let you know this :-) Have a good time.

@haskellburks 7 ай бұрын

Hello Randy. The 2006 Ford E350 is a good looking handicap bus. Let's see if you can get it running and driving.

@TravisLogsdon-sf3tk 7 ай бұрын

The alarm is from the Easy Lock in the back, not being locked. You can use your finger or screwdriver to lock it.

@chrispeacock3290 7 ай бұрын

I think that wire come from the grill on van is for the heater block

@Guard4892 7 ай бұрын

Randy you should know starter fluid destroys diesel engines. Also you need to turn the key part way & wait for the glow plug light to turn off on the dash. You might've destroyed the glow plug relay trying to start it without waiting for the light. Also the plug in the front is for the engine blanket not a battery charger.

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

Gosh if he didn't know that he shouldn't have bought a 6.0

@sccarguy8242 7 ай бұрын

You also have a gallop in the crank…. I wonder if you have a weak cyl ? Otherwise it’s probably an oil pump issue as others have said.

@billprotofab 7 ай бұрын

Love that shuttle bus, would make a nice cheap camper setup

@thundermind5572 7 ай бұрын

I think that second aftermarket fuel filter is limiting flow enough to affect the pressure valve. Have a great vacation and come back fresh.

@topher8634 7 ай бұрын

The lift interlock goes to the wheelchair lift. It keeps it from operating if the trans wasnt in park and keeps you from shifting out of park if the door to the lift was open. The fast idle just does just that- revs it up so the alternator would keep those accessories running and also it spins the AC compressor to keep the suction pressure down due to the increased heat load from the passengers and cabin.

@JasonBrooks-en7bm 7 ай бұрын

Hey Randy if u get it started with ether and had someone to be up front win u get it running keep spraying little to get fuel up to it

@dennismartin5807 7 ай бұрын

I work at a place where some of the trucks you had to use a half of can of starting fluid to start them

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

Nope that's a bad idea, he has an oil pressure issue that needs to be fixed

@antoniocouras6346 7 ай бұрын

Buy the ipr socket and pull it out check the screen and replace the ipr or rebuild it. If you are questioning if the icp not any good unplug the icp that can also stop you from starting it. But I’m leaning to the ipr needing to be replaced

@davidtait7533 7 ай бұрын

Is there not accesses panels inside on the floor on them ?

@tonymolineiro554 7 ай бұрын

I have learned ALOT from you RANDY!👍 Thank you and great work.

@michaelgreen4838 7 ай бұрын

😂

@englundwarner8423 7 ай бұрын

I'm becoming a technician at Ford and there was something on the aftermarket fuel filter and oil filters don't work the best and motorcraft is what you want to use on the Ford diesels that's what the module said

@patriotgarage 7 ай бұрын

Matt at diesel Creek has one (or more) of those mowers. He loves it.

@jamesflournoy2262 7 ай бұрын

RAP module is Retained Accessory Power module PATS module is Passive Anti Theft System module. That key you have is a non PATS key. Most heavy duty vehicles ford makes don't have PATS

@SpeedDemon1220 6 ай бұрын

Hi again Randy, did you check to see if there was any fuel in the bowl, and check the filter also !

@darrenfox5883 7 ай бұрын

You’ve got hair! First time to see you without a hat! 😂

@rosariomaiolo9251 7 ай бұрын

Love it you will figure it out I have full confidence ❤

@BigJon22091 7 ай бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyed this video, Randy. Keep them coming.

@toolzshed 7 ай бұрын

There needs to be t-shirt that says Peddle: it's a mixed bag 🤘🏽🔥😀

@bradleypagliaro9133 7 ай бұрын

Loving the new intro music! Keep the great videos coming.

@nathantatosian280 7 ай бұрын

Hi Randy you won a bus this going be interesting one

@genemorgan939 7 ай бұрын

Use wd40 as starting fluid

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

@@genemorgan939It won't work there's no base oil pressure

@thadmachia9873 7 ай бұрын

You will get it Randy don’t worry still a great video.

@AgentSkelly 7 ай бұрын

I drive these for a living, a mix of 2016 Chevy Express 4500 chassis and 2024 Ford E350 chassis. The Chevys have an El Dorado National body, the Fords are from Forest River. The El Dorado bodies are a wiring disaster; I can see why they went out of business.

@M_Phipps0520 7 ай бұрын

There is a hpop valve to prevent bleed off , it could be stuck open and not building oil pressure and robbing oil pressure from the low pressure pump!

@Ticncae 7 ай бұрын

I love how many people comment something you already did or said finish the video people lol I’m sure Randy enjoys the extra engagement

@robertmcfadden7646 7 ай бұрын

Randy I have to give it to you on that bus man. You we're working hard on that at copart never seen that before 👍. You took your cap off never seen your hair before but hair cut looks pretty good

@markgerdes 7 ай бұрын

no base oil pressure. gage must move some when cranking. replace base oil pump. new parts from ford are less than 200. 2 hr job. it will run after that. lifter comes apart and scores the pump gears. ive done 2 in the last six months. you can do it. i bought that same van from texas hhs in 2023. had 45k miles e450 with wheel chair lift . 6.0 . it had a relay missing in the fuse block . sold to me not running for less than 1k. was able to haul it home on my 20 ft car hauler by running blocks under the front wheels to clear the fenders.

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

The gauge is a yes no gauge so as long as there's at least 7 psi it will say there's oil pressure

@baitse7676 7 ай бұрын

6.0L usually has oil pressure issues when it doesn't fire like that. Probably needs a new high pressure oil pump, but I'm sure there are a ton of more experienced people in the comments. Also check the coolant, as they tend to mix oil and coolant if the oil cooler fails, which is common.

@TimeCapsuleClips530 7 ай бұрын

DieselTechRons video: 6.0 Powerstroke base oil pressure checks and known issues.

@darrenbell5289 7 ай бұрын

I've noticed that the gear shift is not showing completely in park. I had a similar situation with my sons truck when we 1st got it, I had to pull up on the shifter and turn the ignition at the same time and it started. Good luck

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

A no crank issue is different than a crank no start issue

@patricknyagaka2402 7 ай бұрын

Try uplugging the IPR it’s an oil based system without oil pressure it won’t start the injectors work on oil pressure so if you don’t have proper oil pressure it won’t start by disconnecting the IPR it makes it go to default temporarily at least to help you get home to shop to get it repaired

@SpottingPlanesAndFixingJunk 7 ай бұрын

Hopefully he reads your comment because I had a 2001 7.3 Do the exact same thing..

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

There's no base oil pressure that's not going to work

@root1911 7 ай бұрын

My 6.0 had the no start condition and it needed the oil stand pipes replaced. The oring on the seal failed and the injectors will not fire. They're under the valve cover so it's a bear to get to. Something to check into. Good luck!

@carsonmcleod1809 7 ай бұрын

one of the best youtubers right here

@subarulegacy4203 7 ай бұрын

Honestly id change oil filter i had one collapse and lost oil pressure idk if that be ur problem but worth a shot

@wranglerdave6452 7 ай бұрын

Randy there should be an emergency safety switch on your doors for the wheelchair lift if those doors are not secured it will not start check the safety switch to see if it's still hooked up. If not you might be able to bypass it also the double doors for passengers if that is not closed it may prevent it from starting check those as well.

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

Wrong... There's no ficm Killswitch from these, he needs base oil pressure to start the truck

@mattfortin3612 7 ай бұрын

The safety interlock keeps the van from going into gear during wheel chair lift operation once you set the emergency brake. The fast idle system makes it idle up once you set the emergency brake to operate the lift

@ke4125 7 ай бұрын

You mentioned a interlock beeping while at IAA Just a guess but those will keep an engine from starting

@WthaHatchet 7 ай бұрын

Oil pressure low? Check oil pressure sensor port with manual gauge. Sensor bad or no oil pressure. Good luck, look forward to seeing it running!

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

It's never the sensor, something else is causing the pressure issue

@WthaHatchet 7 ай бұрын

@@5.43v good to verify first no matter what it is. Leave gauge attached till corrected then reconnect sensor when verified problem is fixed.

@WthaHatchet 7 ай бұрын

Also might be something disabling it such as sensors for doors etc being a handicap equipped vehicle.

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

@@WthaHatchetI don't think the FICM has a Killswitch on it, watch the video the oil pressure sensor doesn't achieve 7 psi to activate. He needs to figure out why the oil pump isn't physically building pressure

@smarternu 7 ай бұрын

GOOD work Randy. You are a better mechanic than you give yourself credit for. What oil pressure was it building while cranking? does the code reader tell you that? That is the key, if not enough you look for why. IPR? HPOP? LPOP?? (relief valve was a long shot but worth the time.)

@chrisharlow6652 7 ай бұрын

I think the plug coming out in front is for a block warmer. An the advanced high ldle can be used for different things we have them on our ambulances to help keep charge items an keep the batteries charged like when using emergency equipment or run the the emergency lights when sitting still.

@Jon_2218 7 ай бұрын

Ernest from Roadside Rescue KZbin channel knows all about this problem. You're video here is very reminiscent of what Ernest encountered in his bus purchase.

@toolzshed 7 ай бұрын

Awesome video, can't wait for part 2 🤘🏽🔥😊

@fluffy1346 7 ай бұрын

Always enjoy watching videos like this

@wolvesone 7 ай бұрын

you had the name right the first time its a six blow power choke and if i recall they are known for heui issues and ficm issues

@SpeedDemon1220 6 ай бұрын

Ok Randy, did you check the ipc ? Check the screen on the ipc

@Scotts23 7 ай бұрын

This vehicle is absolutely perfect for someone to turn it into a fantastic camper van

@toguro1009 7 ай бұрын

Randy going all Scotty Kilmer with his fancy scan tool.

@gerry-p9x 7 ай бұрын

Yup he be dedicated. Fer sure

@5.43v 7 ай бұрын

The 20$ Bluetooth will do all of that except hot functions and keys

@philipbickham7551 7 ай бұрын

Direct power cannot be denied either is helpful to a solo man in the field with a power stroke

@jamesdbruning495 7 ай бұрын

Randy what are you going with this bus.its a nice bus plus I am disabled myself that bus is worth some money great deal

@kurtwetzel154 7 ай бұрын

if he is smart get it back to running as it should then sell it.

@mikecampbell7957 7 ай бұрын

Hey Randy, those batteries only take 5 minutes to get out through the covered floor panel. Lol just kidding. Great video. Ill be watching this one.

@hoseman1 7 ай бұрын

I own an F-350 with the 6.0 powerstroke, it could be an oil pressure problem, or it could be the FICM, the 6.0 can be finicky, good luck, I am watching.

@In_memory_of_Dad 7 ай бұрын

Just guessing Randy but that panel of buttons on the left of the steering wheel turns red when you try to start it, im just wondering if it's immobilised?

@justinsmyre 7 ай бұрын

Could be a safe switch for the back door or for the left still on

@charlesbass5856 7 ай бұрын

RANDY THOSE DIESEL STARTERS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE- TRY AND TO ONLY USE THE STARTER IN BURSTS NO MORE THAN 10-15 SECONDS EVEN WITH THE GEAR REDUCTION LIKE YOU HAVE! LET THEM COOL BETWEEN STARTING TRYS! THIS WILL SAVE YOU A $00+ DOLLAR STARTER REPLACEMENT- BUT I'M SURE YPU KNOW ALL THE ABOVE BEFORE I SAID THIS! IF THAT TRUCK DOES NOT PRODUCE OIL PRESSURE IT WILL NOT START. CHECK HOW MUCH OP YOU HAVE MANUALLY- THEN IF YOU DO IT MIGHT BE THE OIL PRESSURE SENDING UNIT NOT SENDING A SIGNAL TO THE ECM ALLOWING YOU TO READ OIL PRESSURE OF ENGINE! GOOD LUCK BUD! KEEP GOING YOU'LL GET IT!

@thundermite1241 7 ай бұрын

Imagine cramming a late 6.7 powerstroke and converting it to a motorhome id be cool

@ProtoType99468 7 ай бұрын

perfect for a one man motorhome🚚

@SpeedDemon1220 7 ай бұрын

Make sure you goto the fuel pressure pump to make sure you have pressure

@Jon_2218 7 ай бұрын

Randy knows, he's right, no oil pressure. ✅

@DaveHandler 7 ай бұрын

I really surprised that you haven't poured a concrete slab and put a metal carport. I carport big enough to shelter something jumbo like that bus! Anchor that thing down good, OK wind is like IN wind. At least you won't be frying your skin to the pavement. Plus it'll be easier to use heavier lifts.

@TheDagnab 7 ай бұрын

Plus one thing it would need a inspection done to be used again as med transport randy , was looking at those since my mom utilize that transport for appointments due to being wheelchair bound the service sucks your at the mercy of waiting for them to show up if they due or show up early then leave cause your not outside waiting in the cold

@deanmaster1661 7 ай бұрын

Yah good luck getting to that base pump bro

@daredevil7442AUTOMOTIVE 7 ай бұрын

I’m of no help, I don’t know diesels but, that’s a cool low mileage van/bus; get it running (hopefully) and do a camper build inside it? You say that you want a camper in some of your videos so, low mileage bus is perfect!