Mazda CX-80 driving REVIEW with 6-cyl (CX-90 brother) - a proper BMW replacement?

[@autogefuehl]

►Shop for merchandise: autogefuehl.shop/ ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Also subscribe to our KZbin shorts channel: www.youtube.com/@thomasautogefuhl?sub_confirmation=1 ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaMsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 This is our in-depth review of the Mazda CX-80. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience. 00:00 CX-80 the EU CX-90 00:57 Wheels and length 02:27 Interior quality 03:34 Seats and comfort 06:11 Cockpit overview 07:52 Driver POV 08:42 Rear seats 2nd row 10:43 3rd row 7-seater 12:07 Trunk / boot 14:57 Engines 15:27 Acceleration and handling 19:55 Suspension and motorway 23:06 CX-60 vs CX-80 23:28 High speed Autobahn 25:20 Price 26:12 Japanese BMW?

[@robertwilliam9558]

What kind of fuel miles per gallon did you get in the city/highway/combined? How much more is the BMW compared to this?

[@Franco.Zanchi]

No crazy screens like in Audi, no crazy ambient lighting and mad interior design like in Mercedes. Mazda looks like a car should be.

[@sullysullivan1187]

@@Franco.Zanchi it would be better with ambient lighting be honest.

[@Johnny91832]

Yet when u start driving it it's not even close to the Germans.

[@sternskov2629]

@@Johnny91832 Nope is better... ;-) And it will not be broken after two years as a german car

[@Daumex]

@@Johnny91832 You're absolutely right, it's miles ahead of the germans in build quality and tech. Not to mention that Mazda doesn't slap 2 iPads on the dashboard like every german is doing right now.

[@razorraysolarsavings70]

Some of you must be out of your minds . The German cars are far better with a lot more power.

[@autogefuehl]

Test consumption: 7,5 l / 100 km 30 mpg US 37 mpg UK

[@olivierbedouet7223]

So quite the same as CX-60 for the diesel, maybe the PHEV could consume a bit more. Need a try 😂

[@MaxDrougge]

Did you get the chance to test the PHEV version? I am thinking of getting that one. I have a total daily commute of around 65 km. I can charge at work and at home. If you did try the PHEV, do you know the consumption once the battery is depleted?

[@sanadaHIRO]

I got the PHEV CX70 and i got like 5.3L/100km on average.

[@andras.89]

Yes, a proper german Trio replacement at this point. Especially when it comes to interior with physical buttons and genuinely nice design

[@fazeobama8872]

only negatives i can really think of are: resale and reliability and those only time will tell

[@aamgdp]

It's still too early, but if they didn't make a design mistake with the engine, I'd bet you'll still see them running in 20 years...

[@pragadoegito]

​@@fazeobama8872 reliability is normally a concern for german cars, not japanese.

[@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vz]

But I think in Europe most of the brand snobs will still pick a lesser German car. It’s mostly mums at the school gates who want the ‘show off’ fake luxury looking car to look the part who keep the German brands selling.

[@tomtomasz9798]

mazda gives 6 yrs service without exclusion - Germany cars 2-3 yrs

[@timessix8434]

How brilliant is it that Mazda makes I6 engines?❤

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

Thank you for a fair review of both the good and bad in the CX80. For reference I have had a PHEV CX60 for the last 18 months. This model CX80 would simply be far too big for me. What I like about the entire Mazda EV/PHEV and more recent ICE ranges is I could get into any one of them and know how it works immediately. There are plenty of buttons and the infotainment and touch screen nonsense is firmly in its place. In terms of “premium” pretty much everything you could want is there. The big difference with European premium models, apart from price, is the suspension technology which is traditional rather than adaptive and with all wheel steering. Is that worth the extra money? I have found build quality pretty good, though it looks as if the CX80 has some rough edges which the CX60 does not. My main problem is the CX60-90s are simply too heavy. The steering is good but the usual Mazda agility is lost. I am seriously considering downsizing to something lighter and more agile. The PHEV part works well and I am presently on lifetime mpg of 94-95 mpg; or to put it another way, I visit a petrol station every other month when paranoia sets in and the gauge sinks to half full. That is not bad for lugging around more than 2 tonnes. I am able to fill up at home on either solar renewables or off peak tariffs. In the UK peak tariffs and public charging electricity prices are some of the most expensive, so how and where you can charge really matters here. Finally I find the four wheel drive works well in a rural setting in both good and bad road conditions and some very mild off road.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@AI-qd4vb]

so, considering your mpgs, you bought that mastodon for short drives mainly... Of course youd delude yourself to think you bought a good car.

[@autogefuehl]

Data & facts: Mazda CX-80 (CX-90 brother) New colors: Artisan Red Melting Copper Shown color: Platinum Quartz Optional Matrix LED length CX-60 4,74 m / 187“ CX-80 5,00 m / 197“ (25 cm or 10“ longer than CX-60 - and that’s all basically wheelbase - but 10 cm or 4“ shorter than CX-90/CX-70) CX-90 and CX-70 5,10 m / 201“ (but same wheelbase, CX-90 is a little wider) Suspension double wishbone front, multi-link rear 20“ wheels Engines 2,5 l R4 PHEV 327 hp system output, AWD, 8-spd-automatic 18 kWh gross battery (14,5 kWh net) 40 km / 25 miles realistic range 7,2 kW AC 6,8 sec 0-100 km/h VMax 195 km/h 120 mph 3,3 l R6 Diesel turbo MHEV 254 hp, AWD, 8-spd-automatic 8,4 sec 0-100 km/h VMax 219 km/h 136 mph CX-90 / CX-70 in US also 3,3 l turbo petrol 280 hp or 340 hp AWD is RWD bias 12,3“ instruments, 12,3“ infotainment, HUD (standard) Exclusive Line fabric seats, Homura & Takumi both animal skin US CX-90: Base black full leatherette available 690 l - 1.970 l 2,5 t towing Germany entry price 55.000 Euro (PHEV), 59.000 (Diesel) High trim review vehicle as shown: 68.000 Euro X5 PHEV comparison price: 95.000 Euro US prices CX-90: 38.000 USD (Petrol), 50.000 PHEV, high trim petrol 56.500 USD #Mazda #MazdaCX80 Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

[@wasisthchandrikasingh9749]

Mazda please send the cx90 to Europe 🎉

[@newswanofficial]

I still don’t get why we didn’t get this w/o the 3rd row instead of the oversized cx-70 we have now in america. so bizarre..

[@SDav21]

I love Mazda's beating indicators. It has a better "beat" than the BMW one. The Mazda one looks purposeful somehow. Really cool. I love their new i6 diesel too. What a lovely engine over those silly 2 litre 4 cylinder diesels the German cars use.

[@AI-qd4vb]

the germans also have i6 diesels. They are also better insulated, more powerful, more efficient and better proven as of now. Its still out there how reliable these new mazda diesels are. Their last skyactiv-d was quite appalling.

[@SDav21]

@@AI-qd4vb But they charge a lot more. Here you're still getting an i6 diesel. I'd trust Mazda more than the German ones.

[@phillm156]

No electric water pump…..already a winner!

[@MichelHenriTonneau]

A car factory that keep in contact with human. And maintain some luxury design that fell something other than SpaceX mad mind. Really appreciate Mazda and its enhancement to premium brand. Thank you again for your video.

[@sunshinecycling]

There aren't many 3 row SUVs that can fit a 189cm/6'2" adult in the third row. ;)

[@medotz2795]

there is but just in the US 😅

[@olivierbedouet7223]

Another great review on your channel, still the only one who make measurement of the trunk ! Which is almost my only concern in a car 😂

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you so much! Please recommend / share our channel and our videos 🙏

[@Coinresearcherant]

Another great review of this good vehicle. Thanks Thomas & Lea. I think they should stick with the reliable 6spd torque converter transmission, imo. Why fix something that isn't broken? Please Mazda: Can you offer Vegan folk a trim option? - Thank You.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks my friend!

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

The previous cx-9 used to be these best looking Mazda SUV ever made

[@Specproof]

17:16 I drove the CX60-PHEV just around its launch and a couple of months later the 200PS RWD Diesel. At the moment I would pick the diesel because of its smoothness, performance and economy figures. Like you said, they need to fine tune the transition moments of the PHEV. I had a couple of harsh transitions at low speeds. That said, the PHEV was very quick and sounded rather nice while accelerating. I also keep my eye on the second-hand market and PHEVs are slightly cheaper than diesels.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the feedback!

[@amitbangotra1480]

Hasta la vista, Loved that part. Following your reviews for quite sometime now 👍

[@autogefuehl]

🙌😎

[@SDav21]

I love the sound of a diesel engine especially a 6 cylinder one. It sounds so strong and robust. It sounds like it has purpose. We need more diesels with that older type sound. It is almost like a burble grumble. I miss the days of V8 diesels and the V10 and V12 diesels from VW and Audi. At least there are still 6 cylinder diesels and they sound perfect. An SUV should not have a petrol engine. It uses too much fuel. A diesel suits it way better especially since SUVs have more drag due to their design and it is much more efficient with a diesel.

[@Brooksunleashed]

Thank you for the review, looks very similar in size and interior function to the discontinued CX-9

[@jbo2471]

Regarding road noise on highway, I would say even premium Japanese brand (ie: Lexus ) have relatively high road noise especially from 110kph. Probably it is due to Japan doesn’t drive upper than this speed even on highway. It’s quite similar on volvo (maybe not in the most recent iteration). The only brand paying attention to isolation are probably the premium German one.

[@autogefuehl]

True

[@AI-qd4vb]

its also the damping that is so annoying on japanese brands. They bounce too much and are absolutely incapable of properly filtering the small imperfections. I should know, I have a GS450h that I constantly get annoyed at when driving at more than 120kph. You just feel every vibration from the road on your seat, steering and every object in the cabin.

[@IXISSV]

I thought i recognised where you are! You were at Munich airport! I was there 3 weeks ago and was amazed at the humongous Audi advert that covered the WHOLE of the facade.

[@Kurkess]

You will get fleeced here in Denmark going for the diesel. Price difference from the PHEV and diesel is huge. We drive a cx-60 and my wife loves that car. It's not been without initial problems but Mazda has gone above and beyond to fix it.

[@fildokajter2370]

very good review - thank you for that. You have mentioned exactly the same points I do care about. - the loose fabric on the back of the seats, the way the roof windows opens, the noise level at 160km/h, the noise from the road is a real no-go for me even in that price range (assuming highest trim price of 80k EUR plus) - on the other hand, I must say that I like the exterior / interior design, the true leader, the trunk cover design, etc. big leap forward

[@autogefuehl]

thanks keep following!

[@starfishID]

Another great review, thanks for the boot measurements, this is so important in my hunt for a new vehicle as we have doggies and use crates. Often this information is missing in reviews and also hard to find on manufacturers websites or brochures, general information is only given in litres which is not helpful. The height from floor to boot entry point would also be good to include. 😊

[@autogefuehl]

cheers m8! Feel free to recommend :)

[@jasongross7977]

Congratulations Steve!!!! Well deserved!

[@flashsushi1843]

Only missing feature is torque vectoring differential on the rear axle. Interior dashboard and instrument layout definitely classier and better looking than more expensive German vehicles that have gone minimalistic and touchscreen driven.

[@jhras]

Thomas, thank for another interesting and informative video. A question that I hope you can pass on to the Mazda team. Why do they not offer the CX-60/80 with the same interior options as in JPN and USA? There is a brown interior design and a grey interior with dark wood on the doors not available here. A real shame imo. Also the wheels offered on the CX-90 are just better looking. What is the reason we cannot get those options here?

[@autogefuehl]

Individual market decisions by the responsible people. They say “people in EU wont be interested in xyz” and then this happens

[@johnhodgeman3980]

It's nice. I'd still take a Bimmer. But I'm pleased with my Volvo. Maybe a Range next or an M Bimmer.

[@januszprada6882]

Looks solid outside but too large for me. Small turning indicators almost invisible on sunny day and others quality disadvantages but really not bad for this price compare to premium rivals ?

[@AI-qd4vb]

thing is, is it that cheaper? Sure, german official prices are bonkers but then thats only list prices. When you go to the dealer, they offer heavy discounts and you can easily find comparable X5s for 10 or 15k more than the Mazda. Then its not so clear anymore. And numbers prove it. The X5, Q7 or GLE heavily outsell this mazda.

[@sid3924]

Been waiting for this one

[@thientamvu9681]

need this in US asap!!!

[@jasongross7977]

Congratulations Steve!!!!!!

Hi Thomas, I always enjoy watching your car reviews but I think you should consider active and passive safety criteria in your reviews, since many car manufacturers seems to make savings on this lately. The CX 90 brother seems to achieve good crash test results at the IIHS. Sadly there is no Euro NCAP crash test report available.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the note !

[@forevered4270]

Great review, BUT not the same without your glamorous assistant, who HAS to feature in your videos 😊

[@autogefuehl]

Hehe she ll be back, wasnt feeling well these days sadly

[@eleanormassaro5195]

I’m surprised that the driving assist aids are beeping so much. I rarely get that in my CX 50!

[@toniraff5488]

Mazda❤ rocks and are premium indeed

[@Alfio-zm8xo]

In Europe we need also the 3.3 liter 6 straight-cylinder petrol engine.

[@NotCommanderShepard]

5:04 I call this driving stance "the Turkish taxi driver"

[@janhermanvanman9581]

Asian Gangster or Road Man in UK.

[@nidospartan5393]

What are other 7 seater PHEV with same range and rear-wheel biased is equal to none. Then in same price range also none. Plus Mazda is offering without any extra badges or extra logo which others do. So Mazda main focus is Mazda and that applies to everything even if a restaurant has small menu then thats their speciality meaning food will be great. Mazda has a reputation and track record for reliability and driver friendly cars so they won in every aspect and just do not know why influencers have always underestimated and shadow them.

[@AI-qd4vb]

why should it be a phev? you have other SUVs in its class. The highlander, the kodiak, the 5008,...

[@nidospartan5393]

@@AI-qd4vb nope they are a class below because of fwd dynamics and some variants without awd standard when mazda has awd standard on all trims. And none of them offers same space in phev for 7 passengers. PHEV is better for your lungs and pocket ;)

[@Sha-Ayo]

I can't tell the difference between the Cx-80, 60 and 90.... I thought they were the same

[@autogefuehl]

I m explaining stuff about that in the review

[@lookforperfection]

@@autogefuehlcan make a separate video only highlighting the different CX60 70 / 80 90

[@ontarioman6301]

Cx 70, 80 and 90 are the same size😂

[@wasisthchandrikasingh9749]

Compare the price skoda kodiaq eur 55 till 60k vs mazda cx80 eur 55 - 60k? Not bmw of audi about eur 100 120k

[@AI-qd4vb]

And the kodiaq is smoother, more silent, has better technology, has more space, is more efficient,... Not a very good look for the cx 60-80 which only has pretty looks. How hard is it for mazda to properly insulate against road noisy (the worst kind) and put some damn insulation into those doors so that they dont sound like tin cans. Raining is also so terrible in this car. No insulation on the roof either. Just a constant droning from all the drops falling onto the roof.

[@candlercando]

The hybrid system in the 6 cylinder in the cx90 has proven to be problematic. The 48 volt bms charging has issues and renders the drivetrain inoperable.

[@eal_ppl]

I guess it's first time since 2010-s that I'm regretting this brand is not presented in my country officially D:

[@Molekulasti]

I'd pay half the price just to get rid of the image BMW brings with it. Such a lovely car this Mazda.

[@AI-qd4vb]

i mean, you still have merc, audi, volvo, genesis, lexus, infiniti, etc, etc... that do offer a proper premium experience (maybe the Lexus RX and Infiniti QX60 not so much but still better than the Mazda)... Its not just the BMW that woops this cars ass. And its mazda fault for promoting this car too much as a bimmer alternative and then half bake it.

[@kennedypoi503]

12:40 12:38 12:36 12:42 690 litres boot space

[@cocioxy]

Nicely said something in between 😂

[@MATC9349]

If the headlight and D pillar are not so ugly then this would be a perfect car.

[@Unchainedmaple888]

Honestly, I just want a proper full hybrid CX-30. All these cars are way too large

[@JohnyMcNeal]

The issue is CX-30 is too small. It's like a caccoon. And yes both CX- 60 and 80 offer inferior amount of space compared to same size competition due to longotudaly positioned engine amd rwd. For example phev version has so much space under the hood that's it's exactly the psace lacking for legroom. Also seats are typical Japanese size. They just need to make CX-50 with a decent enough PHEV meaning to work on an enough batter size and sort those suspension issues and mentioned. But I doubt it, Mazda is a small company.

[@candlercando]

The cx50 is getting last years’ Toyota hybrid powertrain

[@borisnjers]

​@@candlercandoMazda have their own hybrid system.

[@candlercando]

@@borisnjers Does not negate that it is confirmed to get the Toyota hybrid. The CX-50 is built in the states in a joint Toyota- Mazda facility. The RDW bias PHEV from the CX-90 is not planned for the FWD bias CX50.

[@eleanormassaro5195]

@@borisnjers not in the US at least! they’re supposedly working on a hybrid CX5

[@davidperry3531]

I think Mazda have overstepped the mark in trying to compare this vehicle to BMW. There are just too many issues that have not been dealt with due to the pressure to get this on to the market before proper R and D.

[@MrRuv10]

💯 agreed

[@Uzaair]

I think it's best to wait for the mid cycle refresh here. Keep in mind, these cars are on a new platform for Mazda so there's a few kinks they need to iron out

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@Uzaair theres 2 spots that must absolutely be fixed if they really want to compete. Noise insulation and damping quality. You cant have a premium car as noisy as this car is and of course you cant be worrying about going on bad roads due to the mediocre ride quality. I dont want to feel a single vibration going 160 on the autobahn nor have to deal with tire noise from 100 onwards.

[@prangsoa1]

I don't think they can improve the driving and suspension dramatically until they completely revise their transmission.

[@jamiep61]

My favourite Mazda SUV 😊

[@ishaansaral502]

Space in 3rd row is disappointing. It is a pretty long car, yet has less 3rd row space than the Santa Fe. The PHEV is cheaper but whether its issues are fully fixed remains to be seen. A decent vehicle that's priced well, but falls short in some ways.

[@MarinosNicolaou]

I own the CX-8 and the 3rd row leg room is way better. But the trunk space is less. I still prefer the CX-8 though, because I can always fold the 3rd row for more storage space.

[@Jenna_]

Santa Fe isn't on a longitudinal RWD architecture. You'd hope the Santa Fe is more space efficient given the loss in driving dynamics and feel compared to a Mazda or BMW or Mercedes. The inline 6 and transmission have to go somewhere.

[@bachbui]

maybe because Thomas is just too tall

[@m3nnoc]

​@@Jenna_ Santa Fe is 17 cm shorter though

[@Jenna_]

@@m3nnoc It’s 7 inches shorter because it is a front-wheel drive architecture with a transversely mounted 4 cylinder. Again, FWD based vehicles are far more spacious in terms of interior volume because of packaging efficiency. Most of the drivetrain is under the hood, and you can’t put a long and physically large inline 6 and RWD transmission in that same configuration. Not to mention the fact that FWD platforms are sometimes severely torque limited with higher output turbocharged and hybridized powertrains because a FWD transmission simply cannot handle that torque load in its lower gears.

[@3von3]

Any news about the 6 cylinder Skyactiv-X version?

[@autogefuehl]

No plans for Europe atm

[@FurkanSavas]

Why doesnt the cx5 get replaced with cx50?

[@eleanormassaro5195]

For one thing, it’s too much of a great seller, particularly in the United States. It outsells the CX 50 three to one, I think, although I went with the CX 50 even though I’ve always liked the CX5. I love my CX 50! To me the CX 50 almost feels like a sport wagon

[@perswartz4393]

Hope its better then the terrible cx60! My god that car was launched to early.

[@JohnDoe-o5v]

5 meter long car and not too much leg room in the back seat. Mazda knows how to screw design.

[@sinemcelik2161]

No chance in eumarket

[@bouldery2933]

Hi Thomas, Is the noise at 160 km/h so bad? My most frequent speed is 150-160 on the highway and high noise would completely change my almost positive purchase decision for cx-80. Could you compare the noise level at 160 with some similar cars, please? Jiri

[@autogefuehl]

Yea very loud. Not relevant for most countries except Germany 😅

[@scotfarnwalt911]

Can you do the mazda ez-6

[@boudewijn-]

Why is there no PHEV review? Only engine that is coming to NL, and only one with engine issues last time. Need a phev review, all people are reviewing the diesel now

[@autogefuehl]

Because, as you say, the PHEV has issues, a super small battery, and drives worse than the diesel

[@boudewijn-]

@@autogefuehlbut Thomas, that is exactly the one that you want to review then right? For me I do not have a choice, I cannot buy the diesel here.

[@autogefuehl]

You can check out the PHEV review here with the CX-60: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGfPnqyYr7idj9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/gICvY3qYYsp3jZo

[@boudewijn-]

@@autogefuehltrue I saw that already, pitty was hoping for a honest cx 80 PHEV review. They are saying here in NL that they changed a lot and should drive better, but only from the 12th of October

[@Matt_Curlew]

They said they did quite some updates to the plug-in so i was very curious if it would be less bad than in the beginning in the CX-60. Nobody buys the 6 cilinder so missed opportunity there.

[@sullysullivan1187]

I think it’s dated when compared to what Kia and Hyundai are offering now. The equivalent Lexus is a much more premium product also. I don’t know who’d want to buy this…

[@artureff3046]

6 cylinder

[@pragadoegito]

6 cylinder, gorgeous car, cheaper than Lexus

[@rjk08]

Kia's and Hyundai's are the worst. Underpowered mostly, electronics issues and much more. Visually pleasing models, but I would never touch them. I will put Mazda after them. Equivalent Lexus is more premium than Mazda, and there is a marginal price difference. You can't compare Lexus to a Mazda.

[@cricho15]

Anyone who “drives” a car and doesn't just want to “like” it on the Internet. Your examples all have horrible engines and, apart from Lexus, inferior touch-only systems.

[@deet4895]

I would never buy a south Korean car over a Japanese car.

[@fortunatus888]

Hi, what about the consumption?

[@autogefuehl]

Sorry bout that, lost in editing. 7,5 l / 100 km. 30 mpg US 37 mpg UK

[@fortunatus888]

@@autogefuehl Thank You!

[@Lordvader330]

Looks like the Munich Airport.

[@S_Paoli]

it's a nice SUV... unfortunately, the depreciation is way too high, at least here in the US. (even when compared to SUVs in with similar pricing from BMW, Lexus, Toyota and Acura)

[@olivierbedouet7223]

Same in Europe, plenty of Mazda CX-60 with a few months at very low prices.

[@ninaakari5181]

some kind of glitch in the matrix with those Audi's 😅

[@katsaras1]

Anything Japanese would be a better alternative to any european. Better engines, better built quality and most importantly better Price to Quality to Performance. Don't get me wrong, they are still very expensive in respect to what the should worth. But the price gaps between the equivalent BMW X5 at a starting price of 88 000 euros (italy) (top spec over 100 000 euros) and, the top spec Mazda at 73 000 euros (italy) (base model around 50 000 euros), is just INSANITY. European car industries should just give it up and go on by manufacturing something else apart from cars.

[@Chrisfields2011]

Like the interior - but then I drive a 330d F31 and aside from digi dash can't see where Mazda have made any interior advances over that. Looks like a close copy, will have to look at it in UK.

[@sergiik7155]

Definitely, Mazda is not on par with premium car brands in terms of interior quality and ride quality yet. But ergonomics and design are very pleasant. Thanks for the review!

[@jdmguy44]

Completely disagree. My brother drives an M.Benz EQC 400 and the interior (for a £70k car) is surprisingly lacklustre in places. The handles on the door cards for example creak when pulled and feel quite flimsy. Some of the plastics on the centre console are no better than you would find on a car at less than half the cost. Just reaffirms for me that the German premium brands are just living off historic badge image. Having sat in a Mazda CX-60 I would say the material quality, fit and finish are more than a match.

[@dariuszbol9176]

Mazdz Absolutly Premium

[@adrianbyron-parker5797]

My CX60 is the worst car I have ever had. Driver assistance is Dangerous Suspension creaks and is very hard. Gear changes in my PHEV are the worst, feeling like I have dropped the clutch Nice looking car but software is realy poor and auto tailgate doesn't close all of the time... £52K car .. should be 15K less at least!!! Prototype car, will probably be good in 3 -4 years!

[@wojciechs3087]

I dont know where I You tron but in Poland lot of issues you raised are solved by Mazdas service actions. But I agree the price level of this car is too high.

[@aamgdp]

Should've gotten the engine it was build around... PHEV sucks

[@davidperry3531]

These things are well known faults in the CX60 and I believe still have to be fixed.

[@daliorouar2649]

I Just can’t with the lock buttons in the door looks so cheap and verder outdated

[@proProcrastinatooor]

1:02 Is that a tiny car or are you 3 meters tall?)

[@podroznik2214]

You get quality that you pay for. I find this car much worse than CX-60 which I have.

[@michaelvella8511]

This...... should have been the CX70 in North America........

[@whatwelearned]

Interior looks pretty aged already like many a Japanese car, but nice to see physical buttons for the key/oft-used functions

[@Astke]

Thomas always mentioning BMW lately

[@EdwardSinclair]

Audi is videobombing this Mazda review 😅...

[@perullgren2424]

all the different models are confusing 😞

[@Matt_Curlew]

The CX-90 is in details so much prettier and better balanced. Such a shame :(

[@autogefuehl]

which details u mean?

[@Matt_Curlew]

@@autogefuehl Bumpers are a bit different and the chrome accent on the bottom on the sides is missing on the CX-80. But mostly ;the 3rd window looks very different (the chrome) and makes the car look heavier. The CX-90 looks smaller even though it isn't.

[@Matt_Curlew]

Plus a less uglier piece of plastic on the front fenders.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the info!

[@6ec6YRFPTcC]

It does look weird the further back you go, the CX-70/90 is better proportioned

[@freeskier175]

No rear bumper. Looks like it's ass was chopped off.

[@m3nnoc]

It's a lot closer than half the price of BMW and those rear seat carpets... Dacia has done it better

[@lungaswazi9194]

I guess you decided against telling us about the fuel consumption

[@autogefuehl]

Lost in editing, thats why i put it in video description and comment

[@uygar2580]

No more new mazda's in my country which taxing cars by displacement, mazda has weird numbers. It should turn back standart 1.3 1.6 and 2.0 engines. Toyota Yaris GR has bad luck too because of passing 1600cc with 18cc. It steps into the upper range with this. 😑 Even mazda3 has 2.5L engine, that's crazy.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

NO, Mazda should NOT build worse cars just bc of some unusual laws in a few small countries...

[@deet4895]

Which weird country do you live in?

[@אלִיהו-ז8ס]

14:49 🤣

[@autogefuehl]

🤖🦾

[@victorcederholm5336]

Sorry to say but the look of both the exterior and interior feels like its 10 years ago.

[@boonraypipatchol7295]

Dinosaur, Last gasp....

[@aldra744]

8,4 s with 6 cyl engine 🤔

[@aamgdp]

You have to consider it's diesel, and not build for raw performance... Quite the opposite actually with the low compression rate. The highest power turbo petrol in the us puts up much more interesting numbers

[@aldra744]

@@aamgdp check BMW 6 cyl diesel

[@aamgdp]

@@aldra744 well then go buy BMW... Idk what to tell you, 0-100 just isn't their main goal with heavy suv 🤷

[@aldra744]

@@aamgdp suv's especially heavy suv's has no goal at all, except show off. and discussion is about engine not about car form. then go and buy Mazda, Volvo or other heavy crap

[@maribogukun]

Its funny how the new CX’s (60,90, etc) are so popular in the US but in Japan, cx60 is not doing well because of tons of quality issues and the poor ride quality and theyre calling it our properly. In the US anything made in japan and cheaper is always the best 🤣

[@mashu7846]

👌

[@DerekTYWu]

No touch screen?? That really made me dislike the car!!

[@КирилЧакъров-у7ф]

I think its overpriced. Its not a luxury car, does not look like one, neither feels like one... More like practical crossover with stiff suspension. For this money Toyota Highlander would be proper choice, for proper made vehicle.

[@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156]

que lux ............

[@picerusonix122]

You can love animals and still prefer animal skin seats. Why not both?

[@autogefuehl]

Because with buying animal skin seats, you give money to a system which is responsible for animal cruelty. If you love all animals, don't buy animal products, simple as that. Who denies this easy logic is not true to himself if you really look behind that system. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G1f56NbtOlqNk And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe7loOHnsSAd80 New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qXiouAbJeIiqM More and more natural materials are rising: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIO2pIt7o9x7etE Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzNdHSjppaSbqc Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaM

[@whatwelearned]

What sort of stupid statement is that?

[@whatwelearned]

@@autogefuehl Hear hear

[@danzen6246]

Are you vegan?​@@autogefuehl

[@autogefuehl]

@danzen6246 yeah m8. I grew up with animals and learned to appreciate them like own family, that's why I try my best not to hurt any as far as in my own power

[@dudarsky]

Tbh vegan leather isn't sustainable.

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G1f56NbtOlqNk And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe7loOHnsSAd80 New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qXiouAbJeIiqM More and more natural materials are rising: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIO2pIt7o9x7etE Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzNdHSjppaSbqc Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaM The argument that leather is merely a "waste" product of the food industry and therefore ethical or sustainable has been a topic of debate, and there are several reasons why it is considered problematic and unethical: 1. Leather is a Profitable Co-Product, not a Byproduct. * Leather is not a waste material. It is a valuable co-product of the meat and dairy industries, meaning that the skins and hides of animals are sold for profit. The global leather industry is worth billions of dollars, and the demand for high-quality leather, particularly for luxury goods, is significant. * Economic Contribution: By buying leather, consumers are directly contributing to the profitability of the meat and dairy industries, reinforcing demand for animal farming. Leather adds financial value to the slaughter of animals, which in turn incentivizes the continuation of intensive animal agriculture. 2. Encourages the Environmental Impact of Animal Farming * Environmental Harm: Animal farming is a leading cause of environmental degradation. It contributes to deforestation, water pollution, and is a major source of greenhouse gas emissions. The leather industry, as part of this system, intensifies the environmental impact. * Tanning Process: Leather production itself is extremely resource-intensive and involves harmful chemicals like chromium, which can pollute water sources and harm ecosystems and communities living near tanneries. The argument that leather is a "waste" deflects from these significant environmental costs. 3. Supports Cruel Animal Farming Practices * Factory Farming: Most leather comes from animals raised in factory farms where they endure inhumane conditions-such as overcrowding, mutilation (dehorning, tail docking), and often brutal slaughter practices. * Leather Sources Beyond Cattle: It’s important to note that leather is not only sourced from cows. Other animals such as pigs, sheep, goats, and even exotic animals like crocodiles and snakes are often killed specifically for their skins. In some cases, animals are bred solely for leather production, especially in the case of exotic leathers. 4. Leather’s Role in the Global Meat and Dairy Supply Chain * The "Chicken and Egg" Relationship: The leather industry is deeply intertwined with the meat and dairy supply chains. It is misleading to claim that leather is merely a waste product when in reality it adds value to the entire system. The more leather that is purchased, the more profitable it becomes for the animal agriculture industry to keep raising and slaughtering animals. * Ethical Disconnect: From an ethical standpoint, using leather under the assumption that it’s “just waste” ignores the larger systemic issues of animal exploitation. It perpetuates a cycle where animals are bred, confined, and slaughtered in massive numbers, not just for meat but also for profit from their hides. 5. There Are Viable, Sustainable Alternatives * Innovation in Vegan Leathers: Today, there are numerous cruelty-free, sustainable alternatives to animal leather, such as pineapple leather (Piñatex), mushroom leather, apple leather, and even lab-grown leather. These options do not involve the same ethical, environmental, or health concerns as traditional leather production. * Sustainability Argument: Many leather alternatives are far more environmentally friendly. For instance, plant-based and recycled materials often require fewer resources and generate less pollution compared to the production of leather from animal hides, which requires heavy water and energy consumption and the use of toxic chemicals in tanning. 6. Moral and Ethical Considerations * Devaluing Animal Lives: By framing leather as a “waste” product, it downplays the intrinsic value of animal lives and reduces sentient beings to mere commodities. This perspective is often criticized for failing to acknowledge the rights of animals to live free from exploitation and harm. * Speciesism: The belief that animals can be farmed for their skins because their lives are less important than human needs or luxury goods can be seen as a form of speciesism-the assumption that human interests always take precedence over the welfare of other species, even when non-leather alternatives are available. 7. Global Impact on Communities * Health Risks to Workers: Many leather tanneries, especially in developing countries, expose workers to unsafe chemicals like chromium salts. These chemicals can cause severe health issues, including cancer, respiratory problems, and skin conditions. Communities near tanneries often suffer from polluted water and land. * Environmental Justice: Often, the communities that are most affected by the environmental harm of the leather industry are poor and marginalized. These populations bear the brunt of the environmental degradation, even though the demand for leather comes largely from wealthier consumers in more developed countries. The idea that leather is a "waste" product from the food industry is misleading and unethical because it ignores the significant role that leather plays in the profitability of animal farming, the environmental degradation it causes, the cruelty inherent in the industry, and the availability of sustainable alternatives. To label leather as mere "waste" downplays its substantial impact on both animals and the environment, making this argument a way to justify the continued use of an ethically and environmentally problematic material.

[@1231ababc]

looks like a giant car with tiny wheels. real wheels look so bad from first angle

[@eleanormassaro5195]

Maybe because of the black wheels? Although I think it looks great!

[@Hercegovac.1]

Very pointless car , and not good quality! I would not feel safe in this car driving 200 kmh 😅

[@sanadaHIRO]

Then get an urus then

[@Hercegovac.1]

@@sanadaHIRO very funny 😆

[@Hercegovac.1]

@@robertbabic80 as the previous Mazda CX5 owner I’ve had experience nothing but problems, starting with transmission and then with rear calipers (brakes)! The worst car I’ve ever owned 😅

[@JohnyMcNeal]

Not sure why are you comparing it with a BMW once again. Yes, it had an inline 6, rwd but although BMW quality of interior materials is nowdays downgraded hard BMW is is many ways still ahead. Ride feel, NHV levels l, engines and transmission amd even chassis, resale value, engine range and working PHEV. So no idea why push this narrative about Mazda being BMW when it's not?! Just to be clear, for years now I find BMW design disgusting in multiple models, there's also the factor of mostly vulgar ppl driving it, price as well as bad materials in interior but lets be honest, BMWs engineering level is above Mazdas! I do like Mazdas interior more, exterior look partially as they're lacking matching wheels once again and have some weird styling solutions but you won't find seats in BMW being small, u won't hear rattling noise in their PHEV and whatever else is the case and I'm certain there's more. And that's ok since Mazda is cheaper and a smaller company.

[@autogefuehl]

Assessing, comparing and concluding, no harm in that

[@hotplayer1549]

👍👍👍nice car

[@ShittyUserName]

be a lot cooler if it was a sedan. I would even consider buying a CX60 or CX80 if they were sedan, but will not because they are SUV