2023 VW ID3 Pro facelift with real-world range and fast charging REVIEW

This is our in-depth review of the 2023 VW ID3 facelift. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 VW ID3 facelift in Olivine Green
00:55 Length, wheels and specs
02:21 Battery kWh and DC recharging test
03:26 Interior: material upgrade
04:17 Seats and comfort
04:55 Cockpit and infotainment
06:33 Rear seats 5-seater
07:30 Frunk? Trunk / boot
08:17 Autobahn acceleration ID3 Pro
13:14 Agile driving
15:17 Consumption and real-world range
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►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info 00:00 VW ID3 facelift in Olivine Green 00:55 Length, wheels and specs 02:21 Battery kWh and DC recharging test 03:26 Interior: material upgrade 04:17 Seats and comfort 04:55 Cockpit and infotainment 06:33 Rear seats 5-seater 07:30 Frunk? Trunk / boot 08:17 Autobahn acceleration ID3 Pro 13:14 Agile driving 15:17 Consumption and real-world range #VWID3 #Volkswagen Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

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still open key points: ★ will ota update work this time ? ★ will we get quarterly updates as promised by the ceo? ★ when will disabled persons get the former 10% and 15% considering all the vip + press + influencee get even more ? ★ when will the price be adjusted to be competitible again considering model 3 + y are far better priced and the real peoples car ? 3 dealers offered 2-3 months delivery which had been in january 12 month or in particular chrismas or january 2024 and out of nowhere VW can deliver and has built + shipped all the backlog orders? At least 1 dealer finally said everybody should wait with any order cause VW orders had stalled except ev company cars which will stall from August on due to no more subsidies for company ev. And then they will need far more orders. He do not wanna have customers with higher prices due to earlier order and says that he doesn't care about his summer sales perfomance. He wants happy customer and he expects a recession as big as 2008. Tesla had cut the prices already multiple times, now tesla will lower the amounts of shifts and reduce their workforce for giga Berlin. And as disappointed VW owner with 2 new VW EV picked up since 2020 I do no longer trust VW and its promises nor its quality. I can wait for price reductions for evs cause our evs are young or new. If VW is too slow I'll take another Tesla at quarters final sale. We have waited for VW so long to fix things now we are done with VW

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Agreed! no music, calm voice, nature sounds, perfect

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[@sevensixtysteve8662]

This is much closer to what I would expect from VW and what the car should have been at launch. Looks smart and gives a much better impression of quality - fit two more window switches and two knobs for the hvac and audio control and the job would be done… just in time for the new model probably. At least it’s a car I wouldn’t mind owning and driving now 👍

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[@andreiionescu205]

german quality,no clowning around Like others do

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[@shakesnbake]

Looks so much more grown up now. That colour is so nostalgic!

[@NikHYTWP]

Man however much I love cars like the EQE, iX, E-Tron and Taycan in the real world I absolutely prefer driving a small car over a big one. This looks like it would be such a good option for the city but also for occasional long trips if you go for the big battery! Love it, and thanks Thomas for the very competent review as always!

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[@mihnealazar7039]

Fingers crossed for the Renault 5 and VW ID. 2! 🤞

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[@hereigoagain5050]

I'd definitely go with the optional "pretty legs" package. So much nicer than the standard, hairy legs. :) VW, please import the ID3 to USA.

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[@darknessislight3689]

Definitely better looking 😊 another fantastic review ❤ Ty 🙏🏾 Thomas 😊

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Magical content.

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The lady's face at 8:19 , when she thought you were asleep is hilarious. Great review as always Thomas and the entire Autogefuhl team.

[@autogefuehl]

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[@mvandenhof]

What an awesome review! Expect mine (100% the version you reviewed but in white with black 20" wheels) in september. Thank you for this effort!

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[@autogefuehl]

Vielen Dank 👍

[@Nelsonrgpereira]

Led greeting was already like that(and the headlamps also) in ID3 pre-FL as long as they had matrix IQ lights, same for animation(2 available) in the back. Only the 1st edition ones or the ones with silver or copper option pack had stickers in the C pillar, all the others didn't(and they were different stickers between the 1st and the other 2 packs)

[@panerai0104]

Great video.

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[@biggkoz]

That 360 steering at the end was amazing!

[@Kaisersozze]

Big improvement look wise imo. Looks the way it should have from the start.

[@alexeyp8864]

Thanks, Thomas. Should be very good for the city indeed )

[@davidorama6690]

I’m loving the ID.3 facelift.

[@davidbillberg2203]

Love the ID.3!

[@donaldduck5731]

Yes looks so so much better

[@mcrkon]

VW needs to bring the ID.3 to America!

[@KDR816]

Just write them, you are not alone

[@khelmikyahvyer6000]

Beautiful design 👌

[@johnfrancis4401]

I was seriously contemplating getting a VW ID3. But then along came the MG4, which seemed to be quite similar though slightly larger. I got the longer range version which has a range of 280 miles (450 km) - which in reality is closer to 250 in summer and 200 miles in winter (400 & 320 km). In the end it was price that decided things. The MG4 was £10,000 cheaper (€11,000)

[@user-qu1rq8qu8d]

在中国只需要11万人民币就可以买到低配的id3😂

[@Jacob-uk4kl]

Thanks

[@Scooterspade]

Thomas you nerd ! i love it :) keep it up

[@autogefuehl]

😁

[@deionhughes6867]

I really wish Volkswagen would bring this vehicle to the U.S. 😫 I perfer an affordable compact hatchback that's economical.

[@valentin6824]

But ITS Not cheap at all.

[@drone_tours]

Its rubbish buy a mk7 golf instead

[@peternystrom921]

Lol its not affordable, its bloddy expensive, here in sweden its like 50-55k USD roflol

[@yaxo11]

In usa, this car would be 40k usd pre tax, you call this cheap ??

[@yaxo11]

In slovenia pro s model cost 49300 euro 😂😂😂 new model3 LR base model is 49900 eur

[@whatthe6532]

I love the new exterior.

[@antonyshort6481]

The new olivine green is 😍

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

ID.3 😍

[@officialyasir]

VW, bring this to the US!

[@rakon4726]

Good review thomas! ye your not the only one distracted by the legs 😄.

[@pillowpants337]

I really wish Volkswagen would bring this vehicle to Canada.

[@aybek45]

Greetings from Turkey

[@autogefuehl]

best greetings!

[@inuit2winit]

A huge improvement no doubt, but for me that infotainment and climate control needs totally replacing before i would consider one. The current solution is really poor, and i find it very difficult to use while driving

[@KDR816]

Just try it, it works fine. Just like any other control

[@peternystrom921]

I agree, i think they will change it with the ID7 one later, thats why this car is so wierd, if you like me have the old ID3 i would just wait for the one with an actualy "normal" tech.

[@davidslachta]

Thumbs up for the badge on the dashboard. Every car should have that... just in case you forget 😆

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

This looks good to me - I like the short bonnet, it is fairly compact overall but actually has room for adults in the back, and the software isn't great looking but useable it seems. Price edging too high, and VW should be a bit quicker improving their battery options the way Tesla does. An LFP battery with still 75kwh+ capacity would be great imo

[@jrmt6]

I wish we had this in the US. I miss my VW :(

[@abraxastulammo9940]

7:35 Do a makeshift frunk by spreading layers of bubblewrap! 😁

[@JeremyAnaniasDiaz]

Good looking , hatch , saw the audi & Vw don't know was it for testing 🇳🇦 in my country .

[@emanuelferreira6875]

Greetings from Portugal. It should be in thomas blue

[@autogefuehl]

obrigado!

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@@autogefuehl De nada

[@DontTellMeMore]

Great work, no ring on the finger yet fuzz on the face, is the war over?

[@choshun8]

Any chance you will review the Smart #1? Have seen it reviewed a lot by German KZbinrs. Not sure if it’s already on sale in Europe but we don’t get it in the uk until at least the end of the year

[@zeproo]

4K, full screen, full length, lets gooooooooo

[@autogefuehl]

🤟

[@nickgiles7568]

Excellent review Thomas. But hey news today that the VW Golf Mk 8.5 due in 2024 may be auto only. Please use your influence with the VW top brass to change their minds.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks Nick !

[@jet_black]

I wish we had it in the states.

[@KDR816]

Write to VW, if many ask, they build

[@abraxastulammo9940]

9:26 🤯You DO look like a spaceship captain in these seats! 😅

[@wilkoone9155]

I had an ID3 for 2 years, but I needed a bigger car to pull trailers, so I got a Skoda Enyaq IV80x which I ordered without matrix lights, adaptive cruise control, heat pump, auto tailgate, sun roof & I went for the smallest wheel option. I really, really, really, really wish I could have got the car without lane assist. On the small country roads (I'm a farmer) I mainly drive on both ACC & lane assist are unnecessary and dangerous I have to switch off #laneassist on EVERY journey, we should be able to switch off things by default. Don't put things we don't need on new cars & make them cheaper!

[@autogefuehl]

Agree

[@hypernewlapse]

Base price of a Model 3 in Spain is 39k without government discount, at that price it’s unbeatable.

[@beatles4sale2007]

Around £38 /€43 K for a base model in the UK…1) will depreciate heavily 2) what happened to the peoples car? It’s expensive…3) add rising finance costs for the majority buyers….buy a 3 year old one for half price or a Golf?

[@ptuomo]

Would have loved that new motor what ID7 got and infotaiment updates. Feels a bit too small facelift for me but then again better this than nothing. VW really needs to speed up the development

[@gesp5151]

All very well but they’ve got major charging issues both DC and AC. This redressing doesn’t change the underlying structural faults. They’ve also handed the same issues to Cupra. I changed to a different brand and it immediately hit all performance metrics!

[@prakashnarismulu3332]

Good review . We do not get this in 🇿🇦 .lovely co driver

[@autogefuehl]

🙏😎

[@hishamg]

It looks better inside and out, but it still has the haptic buttons and the software still needs more work. I think I might wait for the next ID3 facelift.

[@dragospahontu]

Pe just get a Tesla

[@Danne89]

@@dragospahontu zzz

[@dragospahontu]

@@Danne89 ? Please justify

[@Mike-qu6fp]

Do they have a seats option for people with dust mite allergy?

[@Skupik1]

Why no 4motion version yet?

[@ffsolutions9442]

With the Volvo EX30 announced, I’m not sure who would by the ID models over that. Thank you, Thomas, for the fantastic review!❤

[@autogefuehl]

thanks keep joining us !

[@nickbien]

the id3 has more range than the ex30, and it's more efficient, so it can still compete If VW reintroduces the tiny 45 kWh usable battery they had before, the range in that actually competes well with the ex30's 49 kwh lfp battery due to the VWs better efficiency. (id3 45kwh battery has 348 km wltp, EX30 49kwh has 344 km wltp) Also, the ex30s cold weather range performance might be poor due to the LFP batteries. The NCM batteries that the id3 uses typically perform better in cold weather compared to LFP batteries

[@ffsolutions9442]

@@nickbien Perhaps, would be interesting to see some reviews (we are looking at you, Thomas! 😁) of the EX30, once they start showing up. 👍

[@nickbien]

@@ffsolutions9442 yes please!

[@alb9472]

@@nickbien not much difference in efficiense: 169/173 (evdatabase) but just the non trailer is a showstopper for me. The range would be nice with the bigger battery like the VW. Also the volvo i a lot quicker.

[@samugere5483]

9:28 😂❤️❤️❤️

[@eal_ppl]

"It's not meant for real towing" Russian people at this moment: "Hold my vodka"

[@murrynathan]

I’m waiting for VW to make an all electric SP2. The most beautiful car VW ever produced.

[@MoorhuhnIndy]

I’m waiting for VW to make an all electric Santana. The most beautiful car VW ever produced.

[@JohnyForElectric]

@Thomas great review as always. I wish we all were more objective with capitative buttons. I drive ID.4 for more than year and loooove the steering wheel buttons - those have haptic feedback, easy and simple to use (volume +/- just swipe left and right, speed +/- 5 hard press, +/- 1 soft press). Really good IMHO. Drove Taos with real steering wheel buttons (similar layout on ACC) and liked it less. I 100% that the other "touch" buttons (window and mirror adjustments, light switches and on infotainment) are b.s. I feel like those are affected by cost savings. Different touch sensing technology and no haptic feedback... So those are b.s., not the steering wheel once IMHO :) Hope you see the point and understand and maybe even agree :)

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for the feedback 😊

[@brianfunt2619]

Sorry but I completely disagree. I have driven the ID.3 and the '22 Golf. The real buttons on the Golf are way superior to the capacitive ones on the ID.3

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@brianfunt2619 Well I agree with him and disagree with you. The capacitative buttons in the steering wheel are faster, more responsive and look a lot better. If the design theme of the car is more "digital", I prefer the capacitative buttons look too and even sliders for the temperature control like in some Lexus cars.

[@AI-qd4vb]

I wonder, has anyone ever proved capacitative buttons and touch screens are cost saving solutions? I mean, I look at Dacias, Ladas, etc and all I see is buttons... Wonder where these theories are coming from... Buttons are very simple bits of electronics. Basically blocks of plastics and some springs. Capacitative controls are way more complex in their construction. Their programming is more complex too and QA will involve a lot more work. Theres a lot of very small elctronical elements inside them that needs to be tested and refined and manufacturing will require more work and more precise also. I dont see what people see in buttons to think theyre more expensive or premium. Creating a dash and some buttons is so simple nowadays you can 3d print it yourself at home.

[@robertseidl6798]

Wondering if there is a ID3 R in the works.

[@antti_kooo]

It's like Cupra Born for adults

[@Distreicus]

Just me who isnt a fan of the direction changer by the stearing wheel?

[@autogefuehl]

yeah I also dont like it. But as I said, it will be replaced in 2024

[@GlitterGuru]

I wish they'd bring this stateside 😭

[@KDR816]

Write to VW, if everyone writes they listen

[@jaz4280]

My id3 pro is 18 months old... With todays prices, i have to forkout exta 15.000 pounds to upgrade my car in the uk. Worth it?

[@autogefuehl]

Nope

[@sH0xXx89]

Thomas! For the love of god - can you tell me the name of your angled iPhone cable?! This looks like exactly what i need but i can not find something with an angled adapter and that short anywhere :(

[@autogefuehl]

I think thats from Anker

[@JMNTN]

much improved but i still hate the look of those massive wheels, they hurt efficiency and they look almost cartoonish on such a small car.

[@samusaran7317]

The ride quality isnt as good either.

[@AlanTov]

You can choose 18 inch wheels

[@meszach]

Thomas how can you focus during driving next of that legs

[@autogefuehl]

😁

[@sadequeahmadi6380]

The headlight looks exactly like an owl’s eyes from the night

[@ram64man]

tommas with the 77kwh have they finally allowed smaller wheels below 19 inch to be fitted (clearance issues I was told prevented 17inch wheels ), and do you know if VW will offer a lighter roof colour on solid roof models than just dark black, like the VW golf style?

[@autogefuehl]

Not sure m8

[@ram64man]

@@autogefuehl ok thanks all the same

[@baronvonjo1929]

The really need to raise it up a bit. Just hit a big bump today and began thinking that would have gutted the underside of a sedan or such. Unless you live in a area with 100% pristine roads and absolutely no hills whatsoever, this is a bit too low. And then the extremely cheap interior. Other than that it's fine.

[@Streamerabi]

A decent improvement, but still not a car that I can be excited about

[@krane15]

It doesn't turn heads

[@MrUled]

I feel like with this current “facelift” it looks more like a traditional Volkswagen golf , as well as having had some budget cuts. Not necessarily an upgrade it seems

[@krane15]

This car looks nothing like a Golf.

[@carlomorischi3435]

It’s a good car but it should be: - More efficient, especially at highway speed - Faster charging times

[@autogefuehl]

Agree

[@brucekennedy5274]

So… what changed? The bonnet. 👏

[@AlanTov]

The car certainly looks better. They need to replace both screens as they still look toy like. The brakes and the heavy handling were problems for me. They must do something with that.

[@johannescarlsson4559]

It´s a bit annoying the lack of proper towing hook, just extend the trunk 15cm and give us a proper hook

[@cedric_vdbd4836]

Does it have one pedal driving?

[@autogefuehl]

Kinda, or close, in B mode

[@Safttish]

the baddery

[@sbomorse]

I can't believe they rushed this facelift out but didn't bother to fix the touch sliders at the same time! Why wait until 2024 to change the infotainment to the larger screen with illuminated touch sliders?

[@josefv8708]

Because this costs millions to change the delivery chain...and to do new crash tests. This is a security relevant change and would need entire new development. Furthermore cabling must be changed...etc. etc. I think the bigger facelift in 2024 will change this to the old steering wheel, as it happened for the new Tiguan already. And for sure they rushed it not out...usually the planning for the facelift starts almost immediatelly after the first edition is in production...it takes nearly the same time to develop the facelift as the first version...for sure the facelift developed started already in 2021 and changing this "big" change would have delayed everything.

[@toninocars]

In.ike the car a lot , much better than first gen. 👍

[@peterhoz]

480km range is pretty lame when Škoda is getting mid 500s with the same battery. Living in Australia, 350-380km real world is 3 longish stops between Sydney and Melbourne (870km, speed limit 110kph freeway), and that's with no passengers. They need to do better. I wouldn't buy anything under 550km (450 real world). And I can't believe that backlit buttons are still too hard. Maybe they need the Cupra or Škoda team to help out big brother VW 😉🤔

[@samusaran7317]

You're going to be waiting a while.

[@krane15]

Does the infotainment have a screen saver or can you switch it off? Do they stay on all the time because that would be annoying and distracting especially driving at night on a cross-country. I keep looking at it. Anyway, needs more range (300mi/482km) and faster charging.

[@autogefuehl]

U can also turn off

[@krane15]

@@autogefuehl Excellent!

[@samusaran7317]

@@krane15 Drive at a more reasonable speed and you will exceed the range most likely. It's really not that difficult bro

[@krane15]

@@samusaran7317 And if I'm in a hurry?

[@samusaran7317]

@@krane15 I'm not judging you or anything but I will be completely honest with ya. Not saying you are but being irresponsible with ones times and obligations isn't the best of ideas. Outside medical emergencies which can be remedied with a quick phone call, planning things well may need extra effort but its worth it in the long run. Advice I take myself daily... Good luck with whatever you make. Cheers

[@superprogrammer5226]

I'm not a PRO so i don't know if i could handle the PRO or PRO S trim levels... 😔

[@samusaran7317]

Bro 😹😁

[@ashneel]

Nicely morphing into a golf

[@michelacasule4714]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@user-to8wr4vv9z]

The price of ID.3 in China is 125,900 yuan (1.6 euros), but in Germany it costs 3.09 million euros.😝

[@user-cn8bh9rt9n]

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[@alexandroseleftheroudakis2344]

Very nice review Thomas, VW has still a long way to go to produce a technologically advanced car.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@krane15]

You says that as if VW is some new startup company. VW has plenty of new technology. Its their implementation that needs work. Like haptic controls that nobody asked for.

[@KDR816]

What are you missing? It drives amazing. The navi builds routes, music plays, climate works,...

[@raymondteo2611]

I’m Singaporean, as an Asian, I totally agree with this gentleman pay Benz extra to upgrade your software? He totally correct “ it’s a rip off!!, or allow me to be more precise… it’s what we call in the old days!! “ highway robbery” in process!!, worst Benz where’s your automated open/ closed doors? Wait!! Oh!! Maybe just hand me send some extra old German marks, well again I’ll try update your our electric 🚪 doors like our competitors BMW. Hope 😢 sad “we in Asia say “Benz is now a money face company!! kah! Ching!!.

[@ivanobulo]

VW, please bring this car to north america

[@SquellerBoy]

Huh? What was that? I am afraid I didn’t hear anything you were saying from 8:42 to 14:13.

[@cyanide_breathmint]

It's a shame they haven't replaced the capacitive buttons with real ones yet.

[@Gazer75]

It's the one thing keeping me from considering the ID series. The "buttons" are terrible. I went for a 2020 e-Golf instead to replace my old Golf even though it has much shorter range.

[@KDR816]

​@@Gazer75the buttons are fine, they work, like any other buttons. Nothing special to worry about

[@Gazer75]

@@KDR816 They are way to sensitive and you get no proper physical feedback of where your thumb is, and that you press a proper button. Several times I accidentally made the ACC jump 20-30kmh by barely touching something. Very uncomfortable. I guess you like them, good for you. For me they are a big no buy item.

[@jolezg1986]

Thomas is that car really that silent or its just microphone didn't catch it enough? Also, beautiful LEGS! (Girls one are nice too :P )

[@autogefuehl]

obviously it is silent then! ehhe thanks

[@AndrewTSq]

Biggest problems with EV's are still price. We need a new middle class car for around $20k. I mean, even a old one with lots of milage on them is like $35k here. Which mean around $550 a month in cost just for the rent, then I need insurance, and also pay for electricity. I pay around $0.15 / kWh right now in the summer when its cheap, and since this uses about 2.2kWh / 10km, I would need to use around 800kWh each month which adds up an extra $120 a month making it a total of $750 / month including insurance. $750 a month to drive a old ID3........ cant imagine how young people will afford their first car in a few years when they ban ice cars.

[@timscott3027]

It will be fine, you can buy a hybrid new until 2035, so still 12years away, and the second hand ice and hybrids will still be on sale what 10-15-20 years after that? So it's realistically going to be 20-30 years untill you "have" to buy an EV, probably longer.