NEW Porsche Taycan TURBO GT Review: Should Tesla Be Scared? | 4K

Say hello to the new Porsche Taycan Turbo GT. This is the Taycan’s new flagship - designed to take Porsche’s electric saloon to extremes not previously seen. With upgraded aerodynamics, significant weight reduction and enormous power figures. Is it any good? Rory takes to the track to find out.
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[@Alby911]

Porsche should never ever be in the same conversation with Tesla, it's an insult to Porsche 🤫

[@justincharles6585]

While your right, people were laughing at porsche taycan when Tesla blew it out the water in performance at a cheaper price. But now Tesla gotta come really good, and this car does it with only two motors which is amazing

[@locom7657]

@@justincharles6585 powerwise on a straight Tesla maybe better but cornering, braking and overall build quality Porsche is in a whole other universe. 😄

[@G82Watts]

​@@justincharles6585it took tesla since 2007 and on to make a fast dual motor ev. In porsche first ever attempt in the 2020 taycan they destroyed the fastest tesla. Tesla had to add an entire extra motor just to beat porsche in a straight line and still lose to it around nurumbring... porsche too this day created a faster dual motor then any tesla or any other car manufacturer on the market. Now porsche does it again.. makes a faster straight line car and track car then tesla while STILL retaining a dual motor lightweight setup. Now tesla will have to add a 4th motor just to beat porsche again in a straight line. It seems to me that porsche engineering is out doing tesla at their own game. Imagine what the numbers of a porsche EV would do in a straight line if they only cared about straight line performance and not weight savings. Porsche with 3-4 of these motors in their car would destroy tesla easily in an acceleration battle. But they also care about handling, braking, and performance.

[@Sakosaga]

If you only care about performance. People who bought a plaid are still laughing as long as they have upgraded brakes, Porsche is better in every way though it's just for people who don't care. They don't care.

[@ryanm2084]

@user-my4xu4gf1z doesn't the porsche use the motors from Rimac? So it wasn't porsche who did it, it was Rimac. Tesla did it all by themselves.

[@Viddough]

Never change this style of presentation,you are literally the last guy doing REAL car enthusiast reviews ,I can think of 2 guys in Canada and another 2 in the USA ,and that’s it.

[@steffenbeer6216]

True.

[@AeSyrNation]

TH is Canada, who's the US??

[@jasonpark7085]

@@AeSyrNation savagegeese

[@neelsduplessis1591]

There is a guy in UK …..,.

[@DJHalfbarr]

Henry Catchpole...Harry Metcalfe...

[@stephenclay6852]

I agree with you on your last point . The standard taycan is fast enough for most as for the tesla it maybe quicker but it won’t drive as well as the Porsche and certainly not as well built.

[@gweedsUK]

Or be anywhere near as expensive

[@G82Watts]

The tesla plaid is not quicker. Cant wait to see a head to head matchup. My money is on the porsche winning the quarter mile and a roll race. Just like what happened when the first taycan came out. The craziest thing is, is that the taycan retained 2 motors saving a boat load of weight and it still has better performance then the model s plaid. Porsche engineering is on a different level.

[@peacem8574]

Tesla plaid 2s acceleration is misleading. It was measured with rollout, so in reality, it's more like 2.5s in 100km/h. The European values are more strict and the taycan reaches 2.2s in 100km/h

[@NameName-ll2yx]

@@gweedsUK Tesla S Plaid and the basic new Taycan cost the same in Europe.

[@Stijn5]

Teslas are garbage. Near the bottom of nearly every reliability survey, horrendous panel gaps, inferior interior, failing Autopilot, subframe problems, ...

[@Xeniosfitness]

Germans are doing engineering lessons

[@islandbuoy4]

yup German engineers are great, they also know all about 'functional obsolescece' ... the average consumer does not consider it ...

[@Daledondale193]

@@islandbuoy4 do you mean german producers are using functional obsolescence?

[@gullible119]

@@islandbuoy4what are u mumbling about

[@decasT]

Did they ever stop taking them?

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@decasTyes. Just before the first Taycan.

[@ljonathan991]

Can’t wait to get this at 60% discount next year

[@summertyme5748]

And then you will still be short 100 thousand pounds so.....

[@79mbruce]

Exactly what I was thinking! If you’re an existing owner and not a company car driver (being paid an allowance), then you must be in tears.

[@G82Watts]

That won't happen. Funny u say though. That's the exact depreciation rate of the model s plaid after one year.

[@theeALister]

I am planning to wait another generation before getting another Taycan but yeah, EV values continue to depreciate at an unprecedented rate.

[@IReahpZz]

@@G82Wattsplaid depreciation was due to the new model being 40k cheaper . I’ll wait for Porsche to offer an updated taycan for 40k less 💀 they never will. taycan turbo has lost more value in 4 years than the msrp of the plaid .

[@leogrievous]

Its funny how under all these videos people say "cant wait for the depreciation" as if luxury cars, electric or not, haven't always depreciated a lot. But at the end of the day it does not matter, because you, dear commenter can't afford one either way.

[@entasis.fifty-four]

So true…

[@strangerdanger8462]

You don't know that.

[@siyamthandalinda3253]

Ooooh my gosh😂😂😂 and we love to critique like we can afford it😂😂😂

[@G2020-]

I can afford one quite easily. I don't fancy burning my cash though so I'll pass.

[@sma9810]

@@G2020-you cannot.

[@stevehutton7833]

Regardless of the EV war, this colour is spectacular

[@donelmediterraneo8626]

The 911 GT3 RS and the Taycan Turbo GT are the best best example of the beauty of Porsche engineering. Making the best of the best cars whether you're put petrol in it or plug a charge cable on it.

[@TechInfo-ul4xr]

😂 TESLA PLAID STILL FASTER...TESLA STARTED THIS ALL...TESLA WINS USA USA USA

[@BlissLovePeace]

and blowing the competition out of the water either way ... be it a Tesla Plaid or any McLaren (ca. 1000Kg lighter)

[@basfinnis]

Taycan headlights work wonders for medicinal plant growers 😂

[@almac9203]

Porsche should sell lights for the garden enthusiasts! 😂

[@KaypangAsli]

headlight design inspired from porsche race car in le mans. Tesla headlight design inspired from other car brand. authentic-less design.

[@glareicebutts1423]

@@KaypangAsli I think when it comes to a new car brand, we can see that it doesn’t matter where it comes from. It only matters if it’s the best option.

[@Stijn5]

Lamps for growing have a certain micromol and par. People who use Porsche headlights for growing are lowlifes who don't know very much about growing weed.

[@gabaiphiwemanganye2443]

So how can I get that Porsche turbo GT soon

[@TheHutchRuns]

Best conclusion you've come to in a long time Rory!

[@phuketexplorer]

Very nice for dashing to Tesco in a 20 MPH zone 🙃

[@markusdeep42]

😅

[@venelinkeremedchiev9643]

😅

[@bkb2508]

Your last statement on practicality about going for the track version which lacks rear seats was great.

[@Stovem]

When I see a Porsche I think in the back of my mind "Yep, built for purpose", purpose of fun. You can leave the family at home and tootle off to the race track and de stress with one of the greatest boy toys of the modern era, who needs extra seats when you can make your own fun on your own, of course if you can afford it get both. A Porsche is a staple, a must have in every car enthusiasts garage, it's a great versatile sports car that can drive excellently on the road and the track. Good Job Rory, I'm jealous😏👍

[@deadwood21plus]

One of the best sport car manufacturer also made best EV is like looking man who doing great carriers also doing great in his hobby. What an amazing car manufacture.

[@alizeynalzade8111]

what a review whew.. hats off Rory you manage to outshine the product every time

[@G82Watts]

All these people saying the taycan just like all EVs depreciate... are we forgetting tesla was the highest depreciation brand rate last year. The model s plaid literally broke a record with how fast it depreciated

[@iCozzh]

Youre confusing depreciation with price cuts.

[@Demoxx1]

Regardless they all still pile up at dealers lots and will sell for nearly nothing when used.

[@PGVladimirovich]

What's the delta between the two? Just saying record doesn't really mean much if it is a few percent points. Personally, looking forward to picking up some used EVs for cheap, just not sure I want the first gen Porsche given the battery replacement cost was double Tesla last I checked. Still, 1st gen low mileage 21 Taycan turbo s is fast approaching the under 100k mark. Very tempting.

[@larryc1616]

Brand new S&X Plaid was 150k in 2021. In 2024 both are 89k after +12 price cuts. Prices will continue to drop while tesla's get even faster, longer range, faster charging, better reliability/durability. The end of ICE is here....

[@BJorne-lr3sx]

@@larryc1616 Internal combustion engines wont end anytime soon. Maybe in your dreams. The only evs that sell are teslas and even then they barely sell nowadays because people know that they just arent good. Lots of quality concerns and cost cutting measures. That will never change from a company like Tesla which is trying to save every dime due to all the price cuts. Better off buying a hybrid if u want motors in your car.

[@florianhaffner3910]

Porsche: Masterful engineering, great build quality, incredible fast in a line and around corners, great design, epic heritage. Tesla: Incredible fast in a line and... a tablet

[@det_tf2]

And 40% of the price? The Taycan is a good car but if you give me $200,000 cash, I'm buying a plaid and banking the rest every day lol

[@jochem1986]

No one can convey the sense of driving a fast car like Rory. Pleas have him on forever.

[@TABonTV]

Great review Rory!

[@emmanuelvidela1155]

What’s the point of the door if not seats? Button to delete doors

[@suppaman19]

Appreciate Rory for having the balls to be openly honest about it and for AutoTrader for allowing him to do so.

[@TechInfo-ul4xr]

LOL...TESLA PLAID STARTED ALL THIS ...TESLA IS STILL FASTER.....USA USA

[@kraenk12]

why would he not??? you people are weird

[@jbzzey]

Damn that's a nice purple!

[@djornfevrier4799]

Outstanding journalism. I see a place for both versions, although I wish the top version was a 2 door convertible.

[@zerewaze1]

Brilliant review 👏🏽👏🏽

[@poikanick9041]

So let me get this right, this Porsche can do 0 - 200KM/h in 6 second!? What a time to be alive. 🎉

[@zali9657]

I really wish this power train will be in the Audi E Tron GT

[@hkad6252]

The Audi is so pretty it hurts.

[@froomer17]

@@hkad6252 Part of the VAG group, they wouldn't want to impact Tycan sales.

[@Skiridr22]

Are they using capacitors along with the regular batteries?

[@texastriguy]

The 'Ring time is absolutely astounding.

[@bussterdouglas]

Imagine paying all that extra money to remove your back seats and all those other features only to lose 75 kilos😂 Buying a sedan without back seats is actually pretty stupid imo

[@Cyrribrae]

?? It's 150 kilos saved over the standard. And the package without seats doesn't cost any more money than the other GT. It's just a different configuration if you don't want a "sedan" and want a pure "track car". The type of people who can pay this sort of premium over the standard Taycan are the type of people who might care a great deal about 150 kilos.

[@PaulTC777]

Some rich people who like Porsche will buy this Porsche in order to be able to get an allocation for a more exclusive future Porsche. Some very exclusive Porsche models can only be bought by customers who have a long history of buying Porsches.

[@johreh]

It's amazing how quickly Porsche accelerated to become better at EVs than Tesla. Porsche must be one of the world's best companies ever.

[@dnzry2218]

Mate the Taycan is the most depreciated car with a lot of problems, the dealerships had their hands full with them trying to fix multiple issues.

[@KaypangAsli]

@@dnzry2218 yess, multiple self-explode cases in tesla cars.

[@strangerdanger8462]

You're comparing apples to oranges, mate. Tesla is aimed at the mass market. Porsche is aimed at moneyed enthusiasts. Totally different market segments. Hats off to Tesla for what they've achieved at mass market prices. Hats off to Porsche for what they've achieved for those with the cash to pay for it. This doesn't have to be a zero sum game. There's something for everyone.

[@ahwai82]

@@KaypangAsli again ppl saying ev and tesla exploding, where is the exploding or even self fire cases

[@samdukeminier]

And at such affordable prices too

[@karpetcm]

Rory you still have your mustang? by the way as usual this was a great review this is the only one I'm watching of the new taycan.

[@VerilogTutor]

I completely agree with your past point, so hope you’ll review the new base spec Tycan.

[@erhantimur]

Wow Rory, killer review, I love Your impartial analysis. Spot on in my opinion.

[@davidmason1919]

Have you seen the depreciation on Gen 1 Taycans ? 🤷

[@nafnaf0]

Yeah, if I actually wanted one of these I would just wait a year and get a used one for $50k less

[@piotrstepien1736]

I like Rory...shy and enthusiastic guy. :) In next generation of Top Gear...Rory and Chris were the best presenters.

[@EmmanuelJuniorKing]

This video and the GT4 RS video, epic cinematic editing.

[@ingrampowell9111]

Tesla should worry about the brilliant Hyundai Group EVs, not a Porsche.

[@fretsward2225]

Only until you get into a collision. You'd definitely want the Porsche...

[@jordanplays-transitandgame1690]

Yea the Lucid Sapphire and especially this (I mean who approved this junk?) don't compete with Tesla directly, the Hyundai Ioniq 5N and 6N are going to compete real hard with the Model 3 P and Plaid.

[@ifyouarefeelingsinister]

Tesla should be scared in general for their future

[@Qkazam]

I remember when yall said this in 2012 😂😂 Tesla is here to stay especially since the other car manufacturers have to pay to use their charging network now 😂😂 WHOMP WHOMP

[@ifyouarefeelingsinister]

@@Qkazam I have no horse in this race, don’t really care if they crash and burn or rise. If Elon keeps running his mouth it could get interesting though. His fan boys are weird loners

[@philipjames3526]

Ive been luckily enough to have a quici spin in a Taycan Turbo. And lets be honest. The last thing it seemed to need was performance. Literally the quickest car ive ever driven.

[@rob.fisher]

Great video - now my go to channel for new car launches. Not afraid to be critical either 👍

[@shanewalker6609]

All that tech!! What practical use is it?. Its just a rich man's toy. The ave average joe couldn't afford it.

[@toxx1220]

@@shanewalker6609 Well you just described porsche in general

[@StephenLee529]

You did a great job of capturing your enjoyment driving this car. It’s an amazing piece of engineering. The price though..! 🤕

[@chevvakulasrikanth9260]

Classic Rory stuff.. love it..

[@user-ns8nu6zm4j]

Go Rory.... Happy New year. F*CK with you bruh 💯💯💯. CONTENT¡!!!

[@djayjp]

Question: what the heck do the steering wheel paddles do...? 🤔

[@ggkanakestardom4370]

What if the ICE Panameras had this body styling, Porsche would sell a boat load.

[@Qkazam]

Doubt it

[@kraenk12]

They sell much more Taycans than Panameras.

[@Stijn5]

I just love how people obsess over 2 or 3 seconds to 100, no one would notice the difference and you'd be a total knob to use launch control on the road.

[@janneshildebrandt1]

I dont obsess over 0 to 100 times, but you can definitly feel a huge difference in terms of acceleration. Going from 3s to 2s is the same as going from 9s to 6s 0 to 100. As both is 2/3 of the original time, so you can for sure feel the insane power compared to 500ps taycan

[@oB_Session]

@@janneshildebrandt1you lost me on the physics and maths but I can still get what you’re saying

[@strangerdanger8462]

Why pay for power you'll hardly use, if at all?

[@lachlanB323]

@@janneshildebrandt1 0-100 times isn't what matters with such powerful cars since they're traction limited. What matters is the 100-200kph... which the Model S plaid is quicker at. also the 200kph-300kph which the model S plaid would stomp the porsche Taycan at. Porsche made a track car that weighs more, has worse top end and costs 200k more then its competition. They're nuts if they think this is competitive. Porsche shoudl be lowering prices.

[@poppys33d]

@@janneshildebrandt1 Yes, that's a massive difference. I had a Model 3 Performance that was 0-60 in about 3.2 seconds. Then I moved to the S Plaid at 0-60 in about 2.2 seconds. The difference is... well... insanity.

[@oludiranjohn4712]

Amazing cinematography ❤

[@GadgetsBoy]

This car is absolutely nuts

[@ModernCarWorld]

Beautiful, fast, strong.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

If i'm getting one, of course it's the one with 4 seats... I don't want BAC MONO level of versatility in a huge sedan.

[@almac9203]

Me too. I doubt anyone would even notice the 160 lbs weight saving. It will be interesting to see which version is the biggest seller

[@Cyrribrae]

@@almac9203 Sometimes, the impracticality IS the selling point lol (but yea, you're probably right - though 300+ lbs lighter than the standard is not insignificant.)

[@almac9203]

@@Cyrribrae according to Car and Driver magazine the Weissach pack weight saving over the standard GT is only 165 lbs. The removal of the rear seats accounted for 49 lbs of the 165 lbs saved.

[@Cyrribrae]

@@almac9203 not the other GT. Compared to the actual standard taycan

[@bshah4831]

Amazing review. Great insight. And I agree, with EV sometimes less is more.

[@darrelantony1]

Porsche's functional team should given a round of applause 1. Tycan : make it lighter, keep the backdoors and remove the seats. 2. Porsche Spyder RS : make it lighter, make the roof manual

[@daranleighton9813]

It’s buyers who should be scared… of the depreciation

[@jonfrench7133]

People who buy these won’t give a toss about the depreciation

[@Dasani31]

Every 3 years, my company provides a car and i get to choose what i want 😂😂. Who cares if it depreciates to nothing

[@Apjooz]

It's technology so of course it does that. Gas car fanatics will never understand.

[@jonfrench7133]

@@Apjooz oops think you may be forgetting that “gas cars” can also titanic. There little point in introducing a prejudice here either for or against ICE cars

[@BobBuilder-mq9wr]

If it's a limited number they might be ok , plaids were very popular so kept there values. As what else has 1100bhp for 200k

[@funkyhomosapien1]

I saw a standard one today. Looks beautiful ❤️

[@TheNorville2]

Where is that in Sevilla? I live there and have do not know about this place..

[@tiokiwa]

This man.. is a storyteller. BRAVO.

[@markusdeep42]

Taycan is a family car but it can also act like a sport car. I love it when the handling is in the corners is exceptional. This is a car’s comprehensive review in only 12min. Outstanding review so far.

[@thedumbconspirator4956]

This car is anything but a family car. Even regular taycans are typically compromised in interior room and cargo space despite having similar dimensions to a model S. Looks very good, but packaging suffers.

[@johnknight9150]

Couldn't agree more with Rory. I just spent the whole review thinking I'd rather have the normal car. If it's got four doors then that's a car that's also for going to the shops.

[@lawrencekitt5582]

Can't wait for the Drag Races

[@Simaq7]

Hi Rory. Have you done any reviews on any of the Lexus ES models. It would be great to see what they're made of🙏🙏🙏

[@justincharles6585]

Just remember this car almost beat the Rimac Nevera around the Nurburgring

[@TheMadmax0609]

That's Porsche's problem. They need to concentrate more on technology and less on lap times. European engineers are so far behind they have to use Chinese software in their cars now. That's no bueno.

[@CurtisDas]

@@TheMadmax0609bro they are sport cars. Enthusiasts buying porsches want the best lap times not rotating ipads and massaging seats.

[@TheMadmax0609]

@@CurtisDas 99% percent of Porsches never see a race track. Oh, and I've got news for you, the new Porsche Cayenne has nothing but iPads in the cabin. 👈😂 Do your research Curtis.

[@CurtisDas]

@@TheMadmax0609 thats why i specified enthusiasts. I know where the market is going… people just want copy and paste SUVs with different badges. So yeah put whatever you want in those fridges but keep at least a few models pure, without all that unnecessary crap. They have enough money to do both.

[@TheMadmax0609]

@@CurtisDas I have money for both but honestly gasoline cars are a joke for public roads.. that's where I live. My Plaid has 1000 horsepower and doesn't require drag radials and race gas to be street-able. To too it off, it only costs about $13 to fill it up. The word "enthusiast" is being used everywhere but most people aren't really enthusiasts, they're posers. 👈😘

[@paulreilly3904]

It's got a great turbo 😁

[@tunokies]

Why does it have Turbo in the name? 🤷‍♂️

[@logicalChimp]

@@tunokies Because the previous generation did... and the prev. generation had it because Porsche always used the 'Turbo' label to differentiate models, and decided to keep the naming convention because customers 'were familiar with it'.

[@farzb]

Nice nuanced conclusion!

[@florider_hd]

Weissach package with rear Stars would be a dream

[@Fumze]

Give me the sport turismo turbo gt

[@autodigitvlogs]

1034 HP on Overboost. Standard is around 780hp roughly.

[@kgzeh]

Bro I'm waiting for your review, on Lexus LRA and Lexus LC Convertible

[@JordanPayneLV]

Controversial ending there, but I totally agree 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@malph9216]

Looking at the amount of rubber left on the road during the launch, that torque will eat a set of tyres in a couple of thousand miles without too much trouble.

[@Cyrribrae]

If you're constantly launching at the track.. then.. yea. You probably should be switching out your tires pretty frequently. No one says you have to utilize all of it. EVs tend to have great customizability with drive characteristics. Feel just as home (or at least reasonable) on the track as getting groceries. You can tune that torque right down until you want it again.

[@malph9216]

@@Cyrribrae So when exactly will you be able to use all that really, really expensive torque you've paid for (and no rear seats)? And what exactly is the point of having it when it's not even a good track car?

[@Cyrribrae]

​@@malph9216 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 1) On the track, where it is an evidently great car. Since when did being in the top ~25 fastest road-legal production vehicles (gas included ofc) to run Nurburgring make you "not good on the track"? 2) Wherever you damn well please. It's your money. Like in any gas car, you can do things you want - just pay the natural consequences for having that fun. Slightly faster tire wear for an experience you can't get in gas sports cars anywhere you want seems like a non-issue for those to whom that appeals. What a silly complaint.

[@jimcyip]

Why would anyone need a 4 door with 2 seats?? Who is the GTS Weissach marketed to?

[@CurtisDas]

@@epmolifor me the problem is it seems like a half assed job. Like what are those doors for? absolutely nothing! Remove them and actually save a lot of weigh and build a better track car. But obviously that would require extra engineering to redesign the body so they just didn’t. Seems like they did the bare minimum. They literally just ripped out parts, charge you for them AND add a premium because why not. Such a bad look for the brand.

[@autodigitvlogs]

Its a toy....marketed to rich playboys who dont need 4 seats. Loads of single childless people stunting in Taycans

[@isurujosh]

Wow the Plot! You're just leaving even giants like Matt in the dust with brilliant creations like this. Keep 'em rolling Rory! You're the Lewis Hamilton of car journalists.

[@saifalam4094]

Porsche achieved those numbers just using 2 electric motors 🔥 Imagine how monstrous it be If uses 3 or 4 motors🤯

[@makk2042]

Yours for half price in less than a year

[@simonn2045]

Where's the turbo?

[@wss33]

In the name.

[@rahascha]

Hi... the "Turbo" is in my new "GeForce TURBO RTX " grafic card 😄

[@passagier303]

Very good review! Had me smiling for most of it. I would disagree on the last comment from Rory, though. You can always go for the normal GT version and get one of the quickest most practical family cars on sale today. This special over the top version here was made, because the new platform was an ideal playing ground to showcase what's possible. And it is very impressive! And it is therefore also a statement to everyone out there that Porsche cannot be dethroned so easily for making some of the fastest road cars. It's a testament for leadership. I dig it. I'm sure they'll make a two door version of this two engine super monster power platform soon and that'll be the even more most insane thing to drive, if that is even possible... It's a spectacle and I am certainly a happy viewer

[@NixonWampamba]

Were these test drives all completed on the same day?

[@MADWAVE_CGI]

Epic car but I'm waiting for 7 seat Porsche Taycan hypercar 😁

[@CMCNestT]

If it has a two speed transmission why is top speed limited to 189 mph while Plaid does 200 mph and Sapphire 205 mph?

[@Alexx44444]

Probably aerodynamics or artificial limiter to reduce strain

[@ruslan-albertokudaev]

To conserve battery health in the long run. It's like putting a temp. limiter to your phone, you COULD push it to the max for hours on end, but that would make the battery obsolete very quickly.

[@KaypangAsli]

As usual... To do sandbangging a laptime. 189 mph more than enough to be 18 faster than Splaid track package Maybe next on the Manthey Package, porsche will unlock that reall Taycan performance.

[@lachlanB323]

They aren't carbon sleeved and they also use tech to get it to 1100HP temporarily but not sustainability. Lucid barely got their 205mph mark with 1234HP while Tesla... the plaid can go 220mph with its limiter unlocked even with the motor still limited to 20k rpm by Tesla instead of what it is truly capable of... 25k rpm. Tesla is in another ball game when it comes to its motors sustaining peak HP and RPM. Two speed transmission is just compensating for electric motors flaw of not sustaining rpm at high speeds rather then fixing it. Tesla just fixed the issue instead of overengineering.

[@lachlanB323]

@@ruslan-albertokudaev What bs. Taycan has better cooling for the battery then the plaid. The plaid had to coast during its nurburgring run while the taycan didn't. So if the plaid can do 216mph with its limiter removed why can't the Taycan? It is actually quite simple: The motor tech is fundamentally different. You know how ev's suck at the top end and how the plaid ignores that? Carbon sleeved motors. Ev motors like that in the Tesla model 3 or porsche taycan can't sustain then 18k rpm and drop down to 16k... obviously not good for the top end performance of the car. But what about the two speed transmission doesn't that help!? It does, quite a bit... but... it doesn't solve the underlying issue.

[@dangrass]

I think Rory got this exactly right. The Taycan is in many ways a car without a purpose. It's not as much fun as a 911 and it doesn't offer the utility of a Tesla S. From a pragmatic perspective, the Tesla S Plaid, with the track package is a $110k car that can transport 5 people in comfort, had a great ride, is stupid fast, is crazy efficient, and can be driven across the continent with the world's best charging network. By comparison the Taycan costs $235k, has less interior space than a Tesla 3, has poor efficiency, continues to be way too heavy, and simply doesn't offer much transportation utility. Porsche really needs to do something about their hubris and instead of trying to one up the Tesla Plaid, a car that has a fundamentally different purpose than the Taycan, make an electric sports car that's really a Porsche. I would argue that the Tesla 3 Performance.....soon to be the Ludicrous is that. It will offers more transportation utility than the Taycan, will be in the same ballpark from a power to weight perspective, will be far lighter, and will cost less than 1/3 as much. Porsche needs to develop a serious competitor to the Tesla 3 Ludicrous, not the Tesla S Plaid. One is intended to be a sports sedan while the other is intended to be a rapid and luxurious transportation device for 5. Truly cars with different purposes. So Porsche, forget the 1,000 HP arms race with Tesla and instead do what you do best. Make a (relatively) light, agile, and fun electric sports car. A Porsche.

[@atomiconnection]

The boost is like the mushroom boost in Mario Kart :)

[@josefinkjellsson7051]

For those who say Plaid should be scared now.. Porsche power..like Rory said “it always depends”.. Tesla power, like I say..it’s always the same” 100%SOC to 20%SOC…ALWAYS 1020hp Nice try Porche..

[@TechInfo-ul4xr]

😂 TESLA PLAID STILL WINS...GERMANY AND CHINA STILL TRYING TO COMPETE...WAIT TILL ELON BRINGS OUT TESLA ROADSTER LIGHTER SUPERCAR AND MORE POWER...ALL THESE COMPANIES WILL COME OUT WITH CLONES TWO YEARS LATER....TESLA DESTROYS ALL EURO TRASH SUPERCARS...USA USA

[@zeus866]

Nah man tesla is screwed because porsche has great handling in corners due to suspension and great chassis setup while tesla is just simple EV

[@tormentorxl2732]

APPARENTLY you never driven a Tesla, or a Porsche.

[@zeus866]

​@@tormentorxl2732 yes but porsche is performance car orientated manufacturer while tesla is consumer orientated and have you seen the setup of porsche new suspension

[@assbeatergamingxd281]

tesla is outdated, they thought that they would be the leading EV company forever.

[@alanjust]

😂 ludicrous statement

[@alanjust]

⁠and the Tesla is less than half the price

[@soyelchechu]

The Monteblanco circuit is in the province of Huelva, not in Seville...

[@maseratiupgrades4363]

Regarding the Weissach, I like the idea of driving the equivalent of a sporty Chevy El Camino with an interior cargo bed accessible by doors on either side, and in, addition a trunk and a frunk! Not to mention it is the fastest street car of them all, bar none!. I like the fact that I can play with paddle shifters: right tap rocket mode accelerator, left tap for more (regenerative) braking. I also like the fact that it can handle even better than the Turbo S which by itself can prevent a dangerous high speed situation from becoming deadly. I like the fact that with the added Panamera's suspension system, it can offer a more luxurious ride to become a closer competitor to the Rolls Spectre while leaving it in the dust in performance terms; that system also providing unique, in addition to pitch, dive, roll control as well as (get this) 'Speed Racer' style lowering of the wheels to maintain performance traction when the car starts to go airborne, luxury touches such as raising itself for the occupants ease of ingress/egress. I also like that the Weissach, in particular, will hold more value (and potentially be a collector) than the rest of the electric motor battery cans on wheels because of it's specialness to the point of justifying an investment of ~30K for major service to bring back performance to 100% in 5-10 years. I like the fact that Porsche realizes it has to offer a Weissach package on the Taycan GT at no extra cost to remain competitive in the depreciating EV market (this may be the first and last time for a no extra cost Weissach package). I don't like the fact that the body is mostly indistingushable from the Taycans that came out in 2020. I do like the distinguishing Aero and the sharp metallic Violet/ Indigo (not purple despite claims) paint job. I like that , currently, there is assurance of allocation availability as opposed to archaic lesser performing ICE GT models. I like the different kind of adrenaline experience from having to harness a virtual lightning bolt under my ass in day to day traffic. I would not like to prove it on the track at the cost of a new set of tires.

[@pauldewar626]

In a different price league so no Tesla doesn’t need to worry; different customer base

[@AdityaVarmaMudunuri]

True as long as the tesla fan boys stay delusional, No worries for Tesla..

[@almac9203]

The Chinese automakers will be a bigger threat to Tesla. Hyundai is also putting out some good products

[@tomspain6696]

Why have a 4 door with no back seats? Just make it a 2 door

[@Don-pk2uy]

Yep its super dumb

[@almac9203]

The rear seat delete is an option. You can have it with or without the rear seats. Personally I would prefer to keep the seat over 0.1 seconds per lap.

[@aftl_ryz8549]

It's the Weissach pack, it's track focused, the standard version has the back row

[@tomspain6696]

@@aftl_ryz8549 why not have a 2 door version instead of the weissach package? If the objective of the car is to be quicker round the track and the back seats are removed having 2 doors over 4 adds to the overall rigidity

[@lachlanB323]

@@almac9203 The turbo GT version is only 2 seats, has zero customizability and costs like 230k. Feels like it is just a special edition car. Far from a serious model S competitor that's for sure. If Tesla responds it is to maintain their halo effect not because porsche is actually being competitive. It has worse performance then a plaid, weighs more despite having 2 seats instead of 5 and less range. Porsche could only achieve a better lap time due to higher budget... aka spoiler, suspension, cooling system etc and also the car being wider by 2 inches, less tall and a smaller wheelbase. Is this car impressive? I think it kind of is but it would be much more so if the model S plaid didn't exist. The Model S plaid sustaining its HP has set an insanely high standard for high end ev's. And it will be hard to match as carbon sleeved rotors is just fricken absurd lol. SOOO difficult to manufacture even for such an experienced ev company like Tesla with the best engineers in the world it would of been very difficult... and they manufacture and engineer their own motors... unlike porsche who gets them manufactured by ZF. What is difficult about carbon sleeved rotors in an ev is the manufacturing which porsche has no control over to tackle such a difficult problem. Hence why they don't use carbon sleeved motors that sustain their rpm and HP. I think porsche will need 3+ years at least to make carbon sleeved motors... possibly longer but hopefully not.

[@commonduck10]

Nailed it Good job Rory

[@zdrowyrozsadek.]

Cat Price is 206000£ (240000€) according to the Porsche website. Where did you get the price of 86000£ ???

[@Lollikips]

How can other electric cars have a constant 1000+Hp, but Porsche of ALL brands can only give you 1000+Hp in bursts💀💀

[@rikaus9273]

Less strain on motor, will last longer and why do you need it all the time. Is 700 not enough 😂😂😂😂

[@cupidstunt22]

Really?

[@bullshitbingo2259]

omg you are truly clueless. Which electric car has constant 1k hp output. Teslas? Man you are embarrassing yourself. Teslas have one of the lowest constant hp output in the industry. Have you ever checked the technical registration papers? The Model S Plaid has a 30min continous power output of 239kW/325hp. The Rimac Nevera? That's a 1900hp and $2Million hypercar. Go educate yourself

[@Alby911]

non-car people who get caught up with numbers 🤦‍♂

[@marcheim7]

The other cars (plaid and sapphire) can not provide 1000 hp continuously. They overheat very quickly. Porsche is just being honest and precise about it. I suspect the real world continuous output is probably higher compared to the other ones.

[@trickyrat483]

Wow - an even faster depreciating Taycan.

[@isaachunt5799]

yep. wave goodbye to 50k just driving it off the forecourt.

[@trickyrat483]

@@isaachunt5799 There's a British guy here on YT who shares his Taycan ownership story. Bought for £120k new, and now just a few years later, struggling to get £40k for it - and he still owes £60k on it. Has tried to trade it in at official Porsche dealers for a 911, but they refuse to take it off his hands at any price, so he's shafted.

[@jamiebray4205]

All I hear from that EV sound of the Taycan is the Shield re-gen in Halo

[@torrhthc4103]

Not practical, i need the seats but i like the wing. Can i hv the seats back but keep the rest?

[@almac9203]

Porsche offer it in two configurations. You can have the wing without the rear seats or the rear seats without the wing. I do wonder if Porsche would reconsider and offer the wing as an option on the regular GT? Both versions cost the same so give customers the option of the wing on both versions.

[@marty1035]

40,000 british pounds for new battery, depreciation like it fell off a cliff, and a battery warranty that doesn't give you a new battery but one that's of similar condition to the one they are replacing. What a joke.

[@Retheraq]

This will depreciate faster than it's 0-60.

[@absent50]

Had a conversation with my BMW dealer when he warned me that if I bought this new Turbo GT, I would loose about $60k after just 1 year. I agreed with him and promptly reminded him that was the exact amount I lost on my 2022 Alpina B7. Percentage even worse for my car, with MSRP $156k vs $250k roughly for the Porsche.

[@radeberadebe8528]

The best message to the vehicle manufacturer “less is more”

[@worldofdaniel4763]

Porsche is the only one from the Germans brands who seems to keep up with Chinese brand at innovation at least but they need cheaper EV models

[@MaticTheProto]

Lmao cheap and porsche never are in the same sentence

[@bullshitbingo2259]

Mercedes-Benz has great tech innovations, too. The EQXX is the most efficient EV car in the world. Tho not a production model it has nothing on it which can't be mass produced, some of the technology is actually already being transfered to the Mercedes CLA EV or the C-Class EV - cars coming to the markets in 2025. Mercedes autonomous driving system and infotainment and operating system is very good as well and will improve with the MB.OS which will be introduced in the CLA as well. And even tho the CLA is not specifically cheap it isn't crazy expensive either. It will start just below 50k. Big battery version with some options is 65k max. And what about the axial flux motors used in the upcoming high-end electric Mercedes AMGs? Those motors are one of the most lightweight and powerful electric motors in the industry.

[@user-ll2ed3lt4g]

You don't need that much power. How many of these speed freaks are ever going to use it? Just a pissing contest. Sad.

[@DaxL_net]

Some people use the circuit whenever they want to feel power.

[@steffmay7969]

they should put the back seats back in for a no cost option. while it doesnt have the seats, tesla and lucid can say that the laptime has a asterisk next to it because its no longer a 4 seater. Nice engineering sample though, shows what a all electric 911 could be like

[@Nico_lente]

Reaping dividends from the Rimac collab?

[@MaticTheProto]

Rimac? Don’t know them. Porsche has all the know how they need

[@Nico_lente]

@@MaticTheProto You don't know Rimac. OK. I suggest you Google Rimac + Porsche. And Rimac + Bugatti. And Rimac + BMW, as of yesterday. You'll learn exciting stuff!

[@MaticTheProto]

@@Nico_lente ah, the tiny ahh brand with a rnd department that is likely infinitely smaller than that of porsche or any other brand they collaborate with. These tiny brands need collaborations with bigger brands to stay afloat lol

[@aftl_ryz8549]

@MaticTheProto rimac belongs to the vag group now, and most of the ev research, especially in sports cars, are made from rimac for other companies, rimac technology is in the audis and the porsche

[@Nico_lente]

@@MaticTheProto Sigh