Avoiding The Double Overlap on Strand Drops

In this video, we are joined by special guest Jon Malament who will be introducing us to a great method we can use to completely eliminate the natural double-overlapping of strands that happens when we drop strands. We are unsure who created this method, but it has worked very well for Jon. All due credit goes to the creator of this method. In addition, Jon will be showing us his great way to do the tapered twist without any melted strand ends showing. Hope you enjoy!
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[@HealthyMBS1]

Wife: Are you watching that whip video again? Me: IT'S A NEW VIDEO! IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE! Wife: Whatever. They all look the same to me...

[@astronotusx]

I finally got it. The "unweaving" of strands after turning it over it is the key. The most important part of this long video is 9:02 - 9:14.

[@eaglewhips3729]

I’m so glad I could come visit and share this knowledge! Thanks for having me man! The video turned out amazing from what I’ve seen and I’m not even halfway through lol

[@petelopez687]

Eagle Whips Coming to the whip con 2020?

[@eaglewhips3729]

Pete Lopez I wish I could, but sadly no. I just don’t have enough time between then and when I have to get ready to go back to school

[@petelopez687]

That's sad to hear hopefully you can participate in future events keep up the awesome work I look forward to seeing you post a lot more of your beautiful whips on Instagram

[@Shane.Martin]

Thank you very much Jon for sharing the knowledge you have.

[@eaglewhips3729]

Shane Martin it was my pleasure, I hope it helps you out!

[@Ductape667]

Your timing is perfect, I started an overlay last night and only finished the handle before calling it a night. I'll be trying this out immediately.

[@lady_kas7825]

Jon Malament = The Bob Ross of whip making when it comes to tone and cadence of speech!!!! 💗

[@alexanderlovkov5055]

Thanks Nick, Thanks Jon. I don't understand English well by ear, but I understood this show very well. An excellent and informative video.

[@justtommy1346]

Awesome video nick. Keep this kind of content coming. I think it's very cool that you are showing other makers techniques on your channel

[@Shane.Martin]

Absolutely brilliant! Thanks heaps for sharing. As I'm still quite new at Whip making, adding this amazing way to make things so much more fluid is going to be a Huge addition to my Whip making. Thank you both heaps!

[@petelopez687]

Yesssssss Finally THANK YOU SO MUCH NICK

[@capoeiradude35]

cLeVeR. Thanks for sharing the technique! I'll be using this in my next whip.

[@davidetonight4517]

Wow!!! That's solve all my dropping strands problems!!! I will try immediately the reverse method. Thanks a lot Nick and Jon :) Jena

[@jefro8179]

Tried a lot of ways to make the stands work after watching this video last nite I tried the inverted method today and absolutely no problem good video made my day

[@jakepatch5865]

Excellent! It didn’t click until the second time through, but I desperately wanted the uniformity.

[@AGC828]

Just happened to find Bull Whip videos days ago. Had no idea how much interest there is. How much of an art form it actually is....to to make them. NOw with more modern materials and new methods VS I guess the early 1900's? When did the "new era" start? Using paracord and other "modern" materials? Were Bull Whips originally only made with leather and some metal?

[@kennethcartman473]

Thanks guys!

[@shadowdancer1412]

Thank you again for your informative videos. I love the way he did the twist at the end of the whip. I will definitely be trying that on my next whip. If you have time, can you do a video on the French grapevine? Can that be one on a paracord whip?

[@lefthorse1]

Hi Nick , i am just two days into this whip building , and i am so fascinated about how they look and work , definitely my number 1 priority to make one , but i just thinking , it is possible to make a whip without plating ? i mean , to be made as the bow strings are made , the core to stretched at high tension on a jig and wrapped with a pulley device with high tension ... i will make this experiment and i will use to see how durable is with this technique

[@steefv]

The way I remember or understand this: If I get a double overlay then I have to tuck the strand I want to drop on the other side of the whip, so turn it over. Secondly, but I'm not entirely sure about this yet. Does this happen every time you go from an odd number of strands to an even number of strands? Or every time you drop strands the second time? And last but not least . If you make the strands on the whip at the beginning. Make sure that the same length strands are in a different order on the left and right. This prevents you from dropping two strands at the same time from being at the same height when weaving and ensures that they stay in place better. So ABCD on the left and CDAB on the right. Can you confirm whether that is correct? :)

[@kevinorr6880]

He mentioned an under three over four. In you other videos I thought you went under the greater number and over the lesser. Does this change in this method or is it always a choice in plaiting? i.e., U3O2 vs U2O3.

[@MrJdmboy10]

Hey, I don’t know if my reply to this is relevant anymore, but the goal is to have the greater number of strands or an equal number of strands underneath. So for instance, to drop a strand you would want an U4O4, U3O4, U3O3, or U2O3. When you drop a strand from an U3O4 for example, it becomes U3O3. You can then drop one more strand to U3O2, but you’ll want to do the inverse plait method after. After doing it it’ll become U2O3, which lets you drop the last strand.

[@kevinorr6880]

@@MrJdmboy10 thank you for the explanation

[@Thermal_Crew]

This is a pretty cool way of avoiding the double strands. Thanks for showing us . -Austin picou

[@hiroprotagonist525]

This is how Bernie did it. Also, instead of turning your whip over, you can just simply go under ALL, under ALL and then under-over again. Let's say you were dropping from 14 to 12 and your pattern is U4-O3, if you flip the whip the pattern becomes U3-O4 and you can once again drop two from the front like you did the previous time. But if you don't flip your whip and you bring your strands to be dropped under all the strands (assuming you've worked it out so you're dropping the two strands at the same time), so under all the strand on one side, then under all the strands on the other and then your back to U3-O3 for 12 strands. It's an easier way to do it with less fussing about, but you have to make sure you are not dropping too soon or you'll get a gap and you don't want to plait too far down the thong after you drop before you pause and go back to check on your drop and maybe use a fid to push strands into place. It's best to do this after no more than an inch, otherwise you may be wasting time plaiting only to find out you messed-up your drop and need to unplait and do it over again. It's the exact same effect as flipping the whip around but without changing anything, so your angle is still the same. Easy-peasy.

[@astronotusx]

The end result is great, but I am too stupid to understand it. Could you make another video for simple people like me explaining this method once again? Please ! Thank you!

[@safeeffective385]

What exactly is the point/purpose of dropping the strands though? I've yet to find anyone explain this. Thanks.

[@barackobama617]

This is funny cause I was just about to put together a overlay for one of the whips im making.

[@NicksWhipShop]

Perfect timing!

[@davidbarker4809]

Thank you for this

[@rachelmccollough1200]

www.floridamemory.com/items/show/108168 Nice job, young man. Here you can see that yes sir, it mirrors the tip of the whip that has been around a few hundred years on Florida cow whips. In the link I post, that is Mr. George “Junior” Mills, made the whip shown in 1994. I have also seen it on many older nylon cow whips I’ve fixed, some 30+ years old. You can put your strands inside of each other when you first pair them up and save yourself a lot of extra work, as well. It makes a nice precise tip on a whip. The fall attaches easily with a nail knot. Well made tutorial, nice techniques shown. Good job!

[@jwang273]

I noticed that this whip doesn't have a fall and fall hitch. Are there any pros and cons to that?

[@wolvesbloodwhips7725]

Can I do this and will it work if I'm dropping two strands at a time? This is awesome because it always bothered me lol

[@Wolverine05]

I GET IT NOW lol had to re watch a bunch

[@guppy1505]

I can't hold a straight line when i plate, my pattern in the whip slowly rotates around its own axis. Someone who can help to avoid this problem?

[@ronfiveo]

It has been around a long time. It's called the shake and bake. Nice video.

[@eaglewhips3729]

Ron May do you know who came up with it?

[@ronfiveo]

@@eaglewhips3729 not really. It's been around that long. Some call it the shake and flip method as well. But that and the TT ending fall is common on Florida style cow whips and like the shake and flip has been around for just about forever as well.

[@Wolverine05]

He looks like mad max got into whips

[@Wolverine05]

he has quite the thorough plaiting technique

[@vinceowen1593]

I do that but I don't flip the whip. I just go over or under a certain strand where other people just plait the way there used to.

[@thetruth73]

How did you start your whip

[@eaglewhips3729]

brandon johnson I started with a 1/4 steel rod and sinker cord filled with bbs. Attached it to the steel rod with hockey tape and bound it at the transition, and weaver over it using the methods here on nicks channel

[@thetruth73]

Thanks you

[@rodrigoruiz976]

Why do you have to drop strands in the first place?

[@Sidneybeach875]

Seems so simple, why we havnt been doing it this way the entire time is unknown.

[@1newberrys]

Honestly i sold my first whip about 5 years ago and this one small thing has made me feel for half a decade that im not good enough to sell whips. :/

[@Wolverine05]

not really a big fan of the 4 strand twist, looks almost bigger then the plait well turned out that way o mine, ill probably keep to the 3 but do the reverse plat

[@Thea_MojaveOutliersWhipmakers]

My partner calls this "The Exploding Banana" technique. ;)

[@西方秀則]

一本鞭を見るだけでマゾヒストの血🩸が騒ぐんです！

[@SimonFalkentorp]

This seems to be pure gold, and I’ll try to use it on a kangaroo signal right now. Wish me luck ...

[@korruptgaming1370]

Just like you normally do. You’ve got all of your black on the right and all of your black on the left.

[@TimothySnyder-e8y]

Has anyone noticed he is using completely 2 different whips in this video? At 8:00-8:30 he goes from the whip he is braiding with artifical sinew binding to a whip that does not even have binding! And then again hits the switch at 21:40-21:50 he goes from a binded whip to a whip that is not even binded! What is going on here?

[@thomasdonald5402]

This method makes absolutely no sense. No need to flip the whip from what I can tell.

[@WayOfLoki]

The aura of smugness is palpable.

[@Christ_died_for_your_sins_777.]

YES!! THANK YOU NICK!!!!

[@kinkycarny]

Ive used this since this video came out. I did my first whip without this method out of laziness a week ago and it just wasnt as pretty as a whip made without the double strand at the drops