Avoiding The TOP Tractor Buyer MISTAKES!

Avoiding the top tractor buyer mistakes is critical to getting the machine that you want to do the work that you NEED to get done! Tractors are incredible tools that can help you get a lot of work done with far less time than you would expect without one. Further, buying a tractor is something that many of us aspire to do as a form of recreation and relaxation. BUT, many people are making terrible mistakes when they make their first (or second or third) equipment purchase. Buying the wrong machine is far too common and with the simple tips included in this video; I believe that you can save a lot of time, money and frustration by buying that right tractor the first time you go to the dealer! This video is meant to offer friendly advice and is not meant to be financial advice; please use your best common sense when spending your hard earned money!
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[@JoeTheFarmer]

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[@farmhand3724]

Two things I’ve never heard anyone say. I wish I’d built a smaller barn and I wish I’d bought a smaller tractor.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

So true!!!

[@brandonbarkowsky4199]

i see at least one person mention this on each video i watch I'm hoping my TYM 2515 will be enough for my 8 acres lol

[@JoeTheFarmer]

@brandonbarkowsky4199 That 2515 is a heck of a machine. The lift capacity and frame are impressive for a smaller machine. For 8 acres, sounds great.

[@mickey17y]

I decided it was time for a cab tractor. I had a JD 2038R and was very happy with it so my first stop was at my JD dealer checking out the 3 series. I was ready to buy when a friend who has a Kioti told me to check them out. I ended up purchasing a CK4020SE with a cab. The Kioti has a lot more standard features, a much roomier cab, considerable wider stance and was priced $12,000 less than the Deere.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Mickey! Man, I have heard that so many times. The cost difference is so wide on some machines. Glad you got what you needed AND a cab!!!

[@brianhillis3701]

Did the same thing. Think a Dk open station would have been better. I have lots of woods I work in. The extra mass would be nice. The ck is as heavy as I want for going across the field brush hogging. I have to wait a day or more after a rain to prevent ruts. The hydrostatic is great for loader/ grapple work. Terrible for field work. This guy helps you more than most.

[@xdude2x]

A reputable dealer in close proximity is the most important thing. When it comes specifically to the tractor my only piece of advice is get a cab if you can afford it. Thanks for the video

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I agree totally. Its hard to overstate how important a good dealership is with a service dept that will laugh off the nonsense you did to break something! Lol. Just don’t ask me how I know! (And 💯 on the cab!)

[@sevenfrommatthew]

I have a Kubota MX5400. It is hydrostatic but I mow my hay fields for hours with no problem. There is a cruise control lever to my left so I don’t have to keep my foot on the pedal.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thats an awesome tractor. Looked at that machine early on and loved it. And you are right, there is cruise control. Thanks for sharing John!

[@CliffsideStables]

Joe I really like the advice you gave about figuring out how you want to use a tractor. The following is what I compiled when thinking about buying my next tractor: How I Use a Tractor: ▪️Driveway maintenance ▪️Trail clearing/maintenance ▪️Removing small trees ▪️Log/brush removal/moving ▪️Moving liquid or firewood filled IBC totes ▪️Mowing ▪️Fence installation/maintenance ▪️Deer food plot creation and maintenance ▪️Garden plowing/raking Tim in Oneida

[@JoeTheFarmer]

This is an awesome list Tim. Very similar to mine. And thanks for the kind words. Was a fun video to make!

[@firsttimefarmer]

We acquired my wife's childhood home. 16 acres in Northern MN. I took my wife with and she insisted on a bigger tractor. I was able to find a slightly used JD 4052r with a cab. It came with a loader, JD 3pt quick connect, and a tiller. I am so glad we got the larger tractor. BTW when I mow, I use the cruise control so I do not have to hold the peddle down.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Sounds like you got a great machine!!! And yes, some do have cruise control. I should have said that. Seldom have I met another land owner that said their tractor was too big. And I bet in MN you don’t regret that cab!!! Lol. Appreciate you watching my friend.

[@JeffGeorgalas]

I've got the exact same machine as you have, with the exception of the tires. I opted for the R-1 tires. I also had them add two additional rear remotes, rear wiper, and 3rd function. I think a lot of people overlook the (often necessity) of having more than a single rear SCV. When I bought this machine, I actually "over-bought" as far as the need for this sized machine. I probably could have gotten by with a DK or NX series, but I watched videos, and joined forums and in almost every situation, people advised to buy more tractor than you think you'll need. Kind of like when building a barn or garage. Build it larger than your initial needs dictate. So, I bought more machine than I thought I'd need, and have ZERO regrets. This larger machine performs every task that I have a need for, and also allows me to grow into larger implements and tasks if I have a need/want to. Oh, I also see the arguments from people arguing against a cab due to glass breakage in the woods. Well you know what, I've got 40 acres and run my machine through woods all the time. Knock on wood, I haven't broken any glass yet. YOU JUST CUT YOUR TRAILS A LITTLE WIDER. Just my personal opinion here, but I see no reason why anybody shouldn't buy a cab unless you just absolutely can't afford the extra money for it.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Excellent post Jeff! Thanks for sharing that and taking the time to help others. I agree with everything you said!

[@usmarshall336]

100 % agree!!

[@hdtvcamera1]

The green tractor dealers near me saw an inexperienced tracker buyer. They jacked up the price and tried to sell me old rusty stock at "a discount. " I saved $25,000 buying a Yanmar, with better specs and much higher quality implements. If you don't have a good relationship with your dealer it's the wrong place.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Totally agree. If the first few acted like they wanted me as a customer; probably would have gotten one. Tractor purchases take time, be patient everyone!

[@peteschiavoni]

I was very lucky. Went to the JD dealer to look at tractors and the salesman actually talked me out of one. He suggested I hire someone to bush hog it since land had been sitting, see what I wanted to keep clear then get a riding mower or zero turn and to wait as I may change my mind. He was correct. Saved me tens of thousands. We go there for parts and such. They treat us really well. I’ve since bought a 1959 Allis Chalmers as I can fix it and just use it to mow. It’s been cheaper to hire someone to open it up and cut tree lines back than to buy a used decent bush hog and cut things myself. One day I’ll get a tractor that will be perfect on my scary hills and I’ll go to them. I do wish I had a cab.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Pete this is an excellent post. And you are right; there are times when it makes much more sense to hire it out. There are machines for change and machines for maintenance. You found a good salesman that offered great info. I bet he sleeps well at night. Appreciate you watching brother!

[@peteschiavoni]

@@JoeTheFarmer I’m like you color of the tractor doesn’t matter to me. But that type of dealer is priceless. I got the Allis because it was completely gone through with 1361 original hours and price was unreal. It’s still not perfect due to terrain but a lot of fun. I’ll keep it when I decide to go back to the JD dealer. Thanks for sharing your video.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

@peteschiavoni thanks Pete. Appreciate that. Also, if you have hills and slopes check out our Ventrac videos. That machine has been a Godsend. Not cheap, but unbelievable for what we use it for.

[@peteschiavoni]

@@JoeTheFarmer I noticed you had one. I’ll be watching then shortly. So far it looks like that would be best for my hills. Unfortunately I have to side hill as there’s no run off at bottom. Just briars and trees. Both hurt. lol

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Ventrac is an unreal machine. Nothing like it!

[@zeebeefpv2273]

Hey Joe I agree on your list: the cab is not just a 'highfalutin option for fancy ranchers' ...the comfort in weather extremes and protection from bugs, bees, smoke/ash, blackberries, and poison oak is a big deal. Your comments about the brand is spot-on: find a dealer you like fairly close-by, and try not to bad-mouth the others. For me: another top-rated item is Pallet Forks for your quick-change bucket system. Those forks are more useful than you ever imagine, and they make maximium use of your loader's lifting power for big logs and rocks. Plus you'll find yourself buying more things that come on pallets now that you have a tractor! A 3rd function kit is an expensive add-on but worth it because of all the options available for the front end (especially a grapple). I found a grapple is best on a tractor because of the high travel speed you can move brush piles a long way fast, and for working in the winter without chewing up wet ground nearly as much as a skidsteer or mini-ex. For 5 or more acres, get 35hp and up... Cheers!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Excellent post. Thank you for taking the time to share it!

[@ralphdoak990]

Hi Joe, I did exactly as you suggested and in 2021, I purchased a Kioti RX7320 with a cab and have never once regretted it. I unfortunately did not have a local dealer that sold Kioti's. I am pretty handy and this is a great reliable tractor. I got it fully loaded and future proofed my anticipated needs. Great points you made! Thanks for your vids.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching brother! And always good to have another RX owner in the community! Hope you will keep in touch.

[@4leapfroggy]

I agree with you on most of these points. I would like to add that if you decide not to get the cab the sun shade is another option. It obviously does not have ac or heat but gives some shade and protection from rain as well as a frame to mount lights, cameras or ? Some tractors offer cruise control and though you may think I don’t need that! It is really nice to have and relatively inexpensive . Also a grill guard is well worth the $’s there are some well made after market custom and color matching options. Mirrors or rear facing cameras are a nice safety feature. I would also like to add auxiliary hydraulics (3rd & 4th function) at the rear for hydraulic control of rear implements.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great additions to the discussion. Thanks for taking the time to post!

[@jg2480]

I buy a bunch of old tractors I have the ability to fix myself. Loads of different options sizes and fun to have. If i could have only 1 i would say cab all the way but man ... on a good day nothing beats the open air and the visibility that comes with having no cab. Best days those are!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

you got that right my friend. On a crisp fall or spring day nothing is like being in the open. Until mid day when it starts to heat up! Lol. Thanks for watching!

[@davidb9323]

And they will appreciate or hold their value at least

[@davidshay4773]

I did the same thing that you did, open station to a cab, and I went to the next size bigger. I sold the open station with all the attachments because they were going to be too small for the new tractor, so getting the new tractor I also had to buy new attachments. .

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great mind think alike! Lol. I still have some attachments that are too small but figure for as little as they are used I’ll make due. I did get a batwing mower which saves me a ton of time!

[@barney1941]

if you are not sure go one size larger or two. weight is your friend. dpf is not a problem.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I’m agree. When I got comfortable on the machine I was ready to tackle more chores. And then quickly realized my machine had a little of limitations. Thought about adding 3rd function, etc but then just bit the bullet and got what I needed. Thanks for watching!

[@pete4757]

Great view points

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Pete! Appreciate you watching. 👍🏼👊🏼

[@karenroberts1305]

Very helpful. Thank you joe!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@MikeDenny-js2so]

Great things to consider. Thanks for the video Joe!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching Mike!

[@usmarshall336]

100 % recommend a cab, I have an RX 7320 also.. I really enjoy the power shuttle, with a push button on the gear shifter to change gears.. hydrostat is nice but there's some limitation with a hydrostat. The handle on the back rear to adjust the 3-point.. is a must have.. lift capacity on a loader is something to pay attention to!! Great video!!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Agree all the way. And the handle on the back is another great example of why to shop around. Best of my knowledge Kioti and TYM are the only ones that offer that! Pays to shop around. Appreciate you buddy!

[@Beerjunkieguy]

Recently bought a 22 acre property (yea me!) and never ever been on a tractor. I just came upon this video but I pretty much did many of the things you mention. Lots of it is just common sense but, patience is a huge part of it. Even if you have money, doesn't mean you have to spend more than is needed. No cab yet, but got a Kubota L4802 HST. Have had it for 4 months and am 100% pleased with it. Lots to learn but I feel it's a great match for me. Prolly out live this old man! Thanks for your info. I find it extremely well done.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching and congratulations! Just take it slow and be safe brother. Like life, experience will come. You spent all these years saving for the right property. Enjoy every moment, you earned it!

[@jro8013]

Thank you, Joe! Very helpful! 1st time tractor buyer here!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Congratulations! You are gonna have a BLAST!

[@zeke1eod]

Very valuable information. Don't forget about Locust thorns they will kill a tire fast.(ask me how I know) Yes on loader, yes get the biggest tractor you can afford with the most attachments you can, then weld hooks on them, because when your buddies aren't there you can secure loads by yourself. Yes, service them yourself. Now I say buy oil and filters from dealers, so they can't deny warranty. Stay safe, and God bless

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Excellent post. Agree 100!!!

[@twc9000]

Great video. I took notes.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thank you! Here if you need some help.

[@lindnova]

Cab - I need one when snowplowing in winter, BUT I do worry about breaking glass on branches and do get on/off a lot, so big choice for me. I currently have a BX2200 that is too small, but would still keep as it is great for fitting in tight spots in the woods. If I got a larger tractor with cab I'd need to do a lot of trail trimming.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

You wont regret the cab my friend. And the glass is tougher than you think. 💪🏼

[@thehawkc]

That was a great, no bias video, great job.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching! Appreciate the kind words man.

[@backyardcountrylivin1514]

Awesome video Joe. You hit the nail on the head on a lot of key points. Enjoyed the video.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks buddy! Appreciate you watching. Just trying to save others from some of the same mistakes I made!!!

[@djlnet]

Thanks for the video, Joe. Very helpful. I'll be buying my first tractor soon, and I will keep all your advice in mind.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Congratulations! Appreciate you watching and here if you have questions.

[@williegardner9290]

Joe, glad i found your channel you talk about the things i like, and have good info. I am looking at getting a 140 acre farm and will be needing to pick up some things and a tractor is one of them. Keep putting out great content.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Willie. I appreciate you watching! You got to keep us posted on that journey man. Keep the dream alive, I promise it will be worth it!!!

[@kapperoutdoors]

Excellent video Joe! I love the in-depth information and oh my goodness you're spot-on on on all of this stuff! I wish I could have seen this video about 13 years ago before I got my first of six tractors! LOL keep up the great work buddy I love it!!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks brother! I think we all learned a lot from you and you sharing the good and the bad. We all owe ya one!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Best video of its kind! Great job, Joe. I made several of these mistakes when buying my first tractor... Keep up the great content!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Lucas; appreciate you brother. We all made those mistakes! Hopefully we can help some new homesteaders save some money! Take care!

[@Victoriatxnavyguy]

Great information really do apricate you taken the time and explaining everything looking at buying my first tractor here in South Texas for a 100 acre ranch, you made alot of statements that i didn't even think about. Again thanks for making this video.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching! Good luck on your new Ranch!!!

[@Gzus]

Great advice! When I bought my small 1 acre property in the country, I bought a larger garden tractor (Deere X728) than I thought I needed, but figured I would rather go larger than smaller. I've since added a front end loader, ballast box, snow blade, and soft cab to it and am so happy that I didn't just go down to a big box store and buy something that could only cut my grass. I'm now considering a larger tractor with a backhoe and rear tiller for all the other projects I have planned over the next few years.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

This is an excellent comment; thank you. Tells the story of what I was trying to share with others. Learn from us as you embark on your homesteading adventure!

[@kapperoutdoors]

Okay buddy and viewers here is my number one lesson I've learned as far as tires.. R4 tires are usually heavier ply, but R1 tires have better traction. So after learning this lesson I paid extra money to have our one tires custom ordered in 8 ply so they are more durable so I have the best of both worlds! Just food for thought for your viewers man I can't wait to come visit your farm next time buddy!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Man that is a great point. And a good tip from a seasoned pro. GET WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED! Great advice Joe. And come on down!!!

[@justingoff1776]

Plus one to Kapper's tires, Buy a little more HP than you think you need. It will come in handy.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

@justingoff1761 man; you’re gonna give Kapper a big head! Lol

[@justingoff1776]

😂😂😂

[@tractorrookie]

👊👍Good job Joe! So true! I try to tell people a lot of what you said. Many folks are not open minded about the things you talked about. Nice work!🚜🇺🇸🌲

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Mike! Folks are lucky to have you talk them through the process. Having an experienced tractor owner show you the ropes is a huge help. Even though you "think" you are a rookie! Cowlitz is lucky to have you!

[@tractorrookie]

@@JoeTheFarmer 😊Thanks buddy! That means a lot! I have a big surprise to share! So excited!😜😅💪🙌

[@JoeTheFarmer]

@tractorrookie can’t wait to hear it!

[@josephvolpe9296]

Don't just go by reviews of a local dealer and purchase on the spot. Go to several local dealers a few times and ask a lot of questions and get to know them well first. Take your time. Thanks for all the helpful videos.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

💯 right man! So few people talk about being patient. Take your time, enjoy the process and get the right tool for the job! Appreciate you Joseph.

[@Wheres-Wolfie]

I think your advice is very wise and can take out the word tractor and insert many other purchases in life! Cheers 🍻

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thank you! Appreciate you watching my friend!

[@kahvac]

Chain hooks welded onto the bucket are very useful.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great tip! Totally agree.

[@SLH_Kevin]

Thanks for sharing. Great information I wish I had when I bought my tractor (fortunately I didn’t make any mistakes except I should have gotten the cab). I should also suggest talking to local friends and family with tractors. They can provide some good local information on the items you discussed (dealer, tires, etc.). Thanks for sharing.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching Kevin! The cab is very nice; but its also nice to be open on a nice day. You are spot on about talking with friends and learning from others. Thats what the video was all about!!! Take care brother. 👊🏼

[@ralphdoak990]

One point you may have missed, get rear remotes to add different implements like a batwing. You need the extra hydraulic remotes to operate them. You can add later, but easier to have them factory installed.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Excellent point. They are very handy to have and MUCH easier to have installed prior to taking delivery. Well said.

[@mwt3579]

Just ordered my first tractor; it's getting delivered in March. I ended up going orange for a few reasons but the main one was the dealership near me. I had already dealt with their service department with my UTV so there was a comfort there. Plus, the salesman couldn't have been better. Didn't upsell me at all. In fact, he saved me a bit of money on some features which allowed me to get another add-on or two. Quick note about the R4s. He pointed out that they have a slightly lower and wider footprint or profile than the R1 ag tires. May not be that big of a difference; but, may be a factor when considering safety.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Congratulations! Sounds like you did it the right way my friend. Awesome to hear!!! When you get it send me a pic to share with the community! [e-mail]. Thanks for sharing this, excited for you. 💪🏼

[@genewilliams7497]

Great video and ALL VERY VALID POINTS! I do how ever prefer the Euro style quick attach system in that it is self locking when engaging so you don’t have to get out of the cab to lock it manually and I think it is a much stronger connection as well. I think and totally agree that all tractors need loaders…… but remind everyone that they are LOADERS not dozer blades, or pushers or stump bucket diggers as this use will most certainly rack/bend the loader arms or bend bracing. It’s a LOADER. NOT A DOZER OR EXCAVATOR! To me if someone has a place that’s over 50 acres you really need two tractors… one that is at least 75hp with cab & one that is 35hp with no cab as it will do certain chores much better and faster than the larger tractor will especially in the woods and loader work because you can see the loader bucket, or forks much much better. Again GREAT VIDEO AND CONTENT. I know it’s hard to do but wish you would post more videos. 🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Gene and awesome points! I specifically agree with two tractors. Never got that until I owned property. Would be nice to have the batwing on the big one and do smaller chores with another. Working on that now! 😜. And I appreciate your kind words. I struggle sometimes with “why would they want to watch this?!?” Just part of the journey. I plan to double the amount of videos that I have done in the past. Expect a video on Tuesday and Saturday. That’s the goal! 👍🏼👊🏼

[@Slane583]

We acquired 12.5 acres of farm land last summer that we're planning to put a new house on in the future. It has a 3 acre maintained hay field and 9.5 acres of woods. Until then my mother asked one of the farmers that mows a big hay field next to our current house if he'd mow ours. So until we start doing something with the property he's going to keep it mowed. We let him have whatever hay he gets out of it for keeping it mowed since 3 acres isn't all that big as far as hay fields go. I went with a subcompact as my first tractor because our current yard isn't very big at a half-acre. So it's perfect for getting around in small spaces. I originally had it priced out with a front mounted snow blower for winter. But it was out of the budget for me and we don't have a lot of space for just storing extra implements. As nice as the snow blower would have been over making snow piles with the loader, the loader is still better than using a shovel. The implement I did end up going with was a box blade and so far it's been very versatile. Since it's the only implement I own for now it doesn't have to be taken off the tractor so storing it isn't an issue. It's been very useful for what we need it for. Which was to make more bothersome chores less tiring, especially during hotter days. Just load in a bunch of bags of mulch into the bucket and drive them over to the flower bed. Or like last summer where we had to clean out the chicken coop which would have been a pain with just us and shovels. This winter I've also been loading 12 bags of coal into the bucket and driving them closer to the door of the house so there's less back and forth walking. I can get about a half pallet moved in about 30 minutes and not feel like I've ran a marathon after. 😁

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great post! You just shared what many tractor owners come to find out; the tractor can do so many things to save your back! Unloading and loading, moving much or seed, etc. Let the machine do it and save your back! Glad you got the maching that you enjoy. I am looking at a compact or subcompact tractor to help us do more. For the homestead and gardening chores, a small loader would be amazing. None of us are getting any younger! Take care my friend.

[@Slane583]

@@JoeTheFarmer When we make it to the new property it's going to get a belly mower for mowing grass and possibly some implements for making gardens. I would eventually like to get a bigger machine for doing heavy lifting to accompany it. If you end up getting one it'll be useful for smaller tasks. Especially if you put a carry-all frame on the 3-point hitch. Then you can move around several bags of mulch or feed at a time. :)

[@RandyBeretta-db5bg]

🤨This Guy is 💯 Percent Currect.!🤔

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Randy!

[@alexcarr8503]

I think the idea of renting is a great way to try equipment. I rented for a few years. Then I went out and bought one from a different manufacturer. Brought it home and from the get go it was less than I was renting. Called the dealer and returned the brand new machine. Then bought the machine in line with I had rented. I think the 10,000 extra I spent was a super good investment. I have a good machine and right for me.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Glad you have the right machine for you my friend. And all wise advice. Thanks for watching!

[@johnmerryman1825]

One big challenge with a cab is clearance. I have used my tractor (Kubota L4740) to lift large items inside my barn. I could just fold the ROPS and drive right in. The cab model wouldn’t have fit. That said, a cab would be great for snow plowing and mowing pastures.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great point. And 100% why everyone needs TWO tractors! Lol. Thanks for watching!

[@thomashorn5062]

Your last comment is the most valuable. What ever size you THINK you need go two 2 ! sizes bigger with a cab! I made the same mistake on 28 acres here in Wisconsin. Purchased 2 open cabs before getting a cab tractor over a 10 year period. Now have a 46 hp with a cab and attachments. I was able to find a lot of attachments used on MP.. currently looking for a sweeper used on fb Mp.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks Thomas, and I appreciate you sharing that. We all seemed to make that mistake. Unfortunately I didn’t have anyone there to shake me and say “listen!” Lol. Glad you have the right machine on what sounds like an awesome property. Cheers brother!

[@bigredd1574]

very good video !!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching!

[@davehudson4607]

I use my CK4010 around my house and land. Normally have my Backhoe on in the summer, so not wanting any extra weight on the machine when around the house and underground plumbing. No cab for me as I do play in the bush, wouldn’t mind a cab for cleaning snow, but only an hour per storm I can live with.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for sharing Dave!

[@oldmanoldtruck]

Great information! I got a hand me down tractor so it’s the right one for my property. 😂😂😂

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Lucky dog!!! Lol. Hand me down is one size fits all! Hope all is well buddy. 👊🏼

[@mikepici5553]

I just found your channel and came over from Tony's tractor adventures

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Awesome!!! Welcome Mike. Tony is a good buddy and friend. Appreciate him sharing our channel. Hope you enjoy watching the videos as much as I did making them. Keep in touch. 👊🏼

[@danwilkening888]

Great video Joe! I just retired and my wife and I purchased 9 acers in mid western Tennessee. Its heavily wooded and will need about 2 acres cleared. I have been researching 25hp tractors for over a year. I found the Kioti 2510 to be an awesome choice to maintain the property. The close dealer to me is a few hours away near Nashville. I think it would be worth the trip just in what the upfront savings over buying a green one. So far my research comes up about $15k ahead. Thats a lot of pick up and delivery fees covered if needed.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching Dan! Sounds like a beautiful homestead my friend. On the Kioti tractor, If you call Larry Stovesand Equipment tell them I sent you. GREAT people there and they have taken excellent care of me. They have taken great care ov everyone that I have sent there (and no, I don't get a kickback!). They deliver all over too. Thanks for watching!

[@danwilkening888]

@@JoeTheFarmer Thats the place I will be going to . Hopefully by the end of the year or early next spring.

[@stewartwaters1778]

Boy Joe you NAILED it. In order of PAIN but paid cash as I went. '06 Bought used NH TC30, 😅'09 FEL w/o QA. (note: pre KZbin, Amazon, very few chat rooms.) Then the size of property to maintain tripled. '18 I picked up a used Kubota M9000 w/ FEL but w/o QA🥲. Now I am buying Quick Attached for BOTH and It's costing me thousands🤑. Both are open stations (woods). In the summer I gear up like I'm going into battle. Hat, radio muffs, 3M respirator, long-sleeves for the bees, jeans / boots for the Poison Ivy juice, a chainsaw and a .357 for anything else. But I still enjoy it. LOL

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Buddy; you have been through it! Wish someone would have told me all the secrets on the front end. But go get the cab!!! It will change your life. 🤣💪🏼

[@jwmustang1]

Yeah but he won’t look like a bad ass without all the body gear. My first tractor is a cab and am glad

[@rfb7117]

Joe, I would agree with most everything you said. It took me 4 tractors to work my way up to a 55hp new JD hydro tractor in 2007. I still have the tractor but have added a Curtiss hard cab, 4 rear remotes, and many other enhancements I learned a lot by using the first 4 tractors and making changes to them. I would agree my FIRST and MOST important consideration is good service and close, as you said they will all have issues...they are a machine. The only think I would disagree with is the quick disconnect. I don't think it matters if it is a skid steer QD or a JD QD, I have used both and they both work equally well. Although Joe, I will admit I was brought up with Green Equipment.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great points and yes, they will all need something if you use them! And no hard feelings on the green paint brother. I love all tractors!!!

[@mwils51]

My new Kioti RX7320 Cab has 8 hours on it until I ride it more today. I bought it with 3rd function and grapple, pallet forks, bucket, rear box blade. I already have a 10ft shredder and a couple of discs. I skipped the rear wiper. I asked to have the tires loaded. Here in Texas we can use antifreeze and water instead of beet juice. But the dealer forgot to do it. He said he is going to take care of it but has not got to it yet. I also had them install a front and rear facing camera but the camera display has already fell off the mount. The dealer installed a really solid mount under the roof of the cab but the display itself comes with a clip that attaches to the display with 4 tiny screws that strips the first time I ran the tractor across my field. I already bent a piece of metal on the upper jaw of my grapple. It is from Armstrong AG model BGR64-5. The lower jaw of the grapple seems really solid and 3/4" steel, but the center of the upper jaw is less rugged and bent a piece of metal on the first tree stump I picked up. It didn't really hurt the grapple but I am afraid it will not hold up.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Sounds like you have a fun road ahead!!! And don’t worry about the grapple. Did the same thing to mine on its maiden voyage. Some things can’t handle rx power! Lol

[@Cameron_Prymak]

Very helpful video - thank you. Have you ever done a total cost of owners analysis? Not an owner (yet) as I investigate more, I don’t see much discussion on leasing.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Cameron, Thanks for watching! I haven't done that but not a bad idea. I have never been keen on leasing, but I could see how it could work to try different equipment. Are you planning to lease one?

[@Cameron_Prymak]

@@JoeTheFarmer hard to say, have to see what’s available here in Ontario but tractors are such workhorses that I don’t think leasing is attractive to the manufacturers. Having said that there’s a lot of other vehicles and equipment that’s leasable and I do like what a lease represents for the lessee. I think the idea of vehicle ownership is changing, even reading about ‘subscription’ models for personal vehicles. Interesting times. Thanks!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

@Cameron_Prymak Interesting times indeed! Would love to know what you decide. The community would prob enjoy hearing about it.

[@fiafighterdude]

Iv had a kubota without a cab for 15 years, I’m done freezing my ass off in the winter, I’m going for the ck2620

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Brother, you did your time. You will NEVER regret it.

[@steliandone4078]

Your loader has a MSL which is a +. Good good advices sir.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Thanks for watching! And self leveling is a game changer. Love it!

[@PatrickMatherne]

Thanks for the video. I am a first time tractor owner. I have 8.3 acres, 6 acres are cleared with maybe 20 trees left. The other 2 acres are starting to return to a forest, they were cut 4 years ago. Mainly will be doing mowing, some grading, and want to get into permaculture. Would a JD 2025R or Kub LX2610 be good?

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Patrick, congrats on the new spread! Sounds like a beautiful place. We all started our tractor journey somewhere and all I can say is that you will love it. To answer your question; it depends. It is REALLY hard to gauge what you will need without spending a lot of time talking through it and really knowing the property and tasks ahead. A blanket answer is where most of us messed up on our first purchase. For grading, you can rent a skid steer for the weekend...for mowing either of those machines would do well with a 4' rotary cutter. The permaculture element is interesting because you will probably want a small machine for that...so both would fit that bill. Have you met with both dealers and asked them to come tour your place and walk it with you? I would broaden your search also to Kioti, TYM, LS, Etc. They are all excellent machines and you may be more comfortable on one of those vs. the JD or Kubota. I recently bought a Kubota skid steer (our last video) so obviously I'm not overky brand loyal...it's all about dealership to me. I hope this helps, happy to fill in where I may have missed something.

[@DermalDeviations]

I just got a little 5 acre plot in central MN. It's raw land that's pretty flat, with mostly brush and lots of young trees (8“ wide or less). I want to clear about 2 - 3 acres, and thin the rest to just the biggest trees, and then build on it. After that I'd like a small orchard, a garden, and some chickens, and maybe some bigger livestock later. I think a 25hp would be enough once the property is established, but feel like I'd need at least a 35hp for the initial clearing and dirt work. I have a bad back too, so my list of must-haves are: forks, grapple, bucket, flail mower, box blade or land plane, and debating on the backhoe (could help with getting some side-work too). What say you more seasoned tractor enthusiasts? How big do you think I need? Do you think I should get the hoe too, or skip it and just get a Stump bucket, and rent a mini-ex for the septic, monolithic Slab, and all of trenching? It gets real cold and hot and buggy here, but cab models are about $10k+ around here (dunno where he gets em for just a couple thousand). Are they worth it, considering the size of my property too? (I already own a SxS with a full cab, heat, and a nice plow) Oh yea, I already own enclosed trailers, that a open station unit, should fit, but not a flatbed needed for a cab model.. Thanks for any advice ya'll can offer!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Get at least 35 hp, and don’t get a stump bucket. Too easy to bend your loader with those things. Rent a mini ex for that work. And you have a side by side with a cab but wont get a tractor with one? Please trust me…get the cab! And it should only be 3-5k more at most.

[@mikeduarte8149]

Joe, here is my situation. I have a Kioti DK5310 SE HST with Cab. I dont have a trailer big enough to tow it. I have set up a dealer who sell a different brand to come pick it up and do the service work. Tractor is on our property in 4 hours from home in NC so when I go I dont have a lot of time for maintenance. I am also having them install the control box for a Lane shark that they have experience in installing. I think the $150 for pick up and return is a deal. I am in Greeneville TN and the dealer is in Kingsport. I am supplying them the filters needed, oil, hst and transmission. Can you think of anything else I need to address with them. They will be doing a full look over. and my tractor is no longer under warranty. owned for 2 years and right at 50 hours.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Mike, first question is why is the warranty up at 2 years? I thought most Kioti’s had 4 or 6 year warranty’s? But at 50 hrs, just change the oil and filters, grease it often and use quality fuel. I’d also change the fuel filter as often as every other oil change. No stress about paying for having the dealer trailer it back and forth…I don’t have a heavy duty trailer that large either and if something had to be done its cheaper to pay them than buy a $10k trailer and have it sit in the driveway waiting to be used. Congrats on a great machine brother!

[@kdegraa]

I like the look of my Kubota with the loader off it. It feels a lot smaller too. However I would not buy a compact tractor without a loader and the extra hydraulic functions.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Totally agree! Thanks for watching!

[@andrewsiebenborn7848]

Whatever size you think you need…. Get the next size up. Not HP necessarily, frame size.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Andrew that's a GREAT point. A larger frame won't get thrown around by a stump grinder, tiller, etc. Really glad you added that. Thanks for watching!

[@angusblack9900]

I bought one too small, 6 years later I bought a bigger one, cost me money. I've had the second one now for 13 years, done everything I've wanted. But if I had too do it over I'd do it differently.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I'm with you brother. We live and learn. Just wish I had someone to help talk me through the process when I bought my first one. I really just needed a machine and should have hired someone to do some cutting and took more time to research. Would have saved me a whole lotta dough!!! Lol

[@dethtrain3534]

one problem I see with rim guard is when you get a deer antler stuck in it the tyre goes down and you loose the rim guard and as it can be expensive to replace wheel weights are abetter option also rim guard is about 8 pounds per gallon

[@JoeTheFarmer]

You are 100% right. But, at least you live where deer antlers are big enough to cause a problem! Lol... Just kidding. Appreciate you watching my friend!

[@davidb9323]

I have wheel weights and it wasn’t enough ballast for moving dirt and would bounce me around until I checked the tires and they were not filled from dealer.

[@theodorewilson399]

CAB, CAB, CAB !!! : ) I've had a open station model... CAB, CAB, CAB !!! : )

[@JoeTheFarmer]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@MikeDPlxztc]

Great video very comprehensive but I would argue that the number one mistake is not buying a track steer😅

[@JoeTheFarmer]

🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the kind words. Track loader and mini ex are on my bucket list! Thanks for watching!

[@angusblack9900]

Simple maintenance, about anyone can do, a trailer big enough to haul is almost a must.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I agree on everything but the trailer. They have become so expensive that It's cheaper for me to pay the dealer to haul it and saves me time/diesel. Plus they will drop off while I'm out doing something else. BUT, that's just for me. My tractor has only ever left our property 2 or 3 times. Now if I was getting hired work, absolutely. Thanks for watching!

[@angusblack9900]

@JoeTheFarmer I agreed Joe. Trailers are thru the roof, also here In Kansas you pp and tags which I'm sure you have everywhere, but I like the idea of picking up side jobs with my tractor, blading driveways and such. Light dirt work.

[@RandyKraege]

I bought a small tractor before i bought the land / house. it was too small, it was only 2K, but I still have it. Also bought a D17 Chanlers for 2K and 1K for implements, no loader, but it will pull anything. So now, im buying a new tractor with everything Ive learned, time and money well spent IMHO.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

We've all been there brother!!! What tractor are you looking at?!?

[@RandyKraege]

Branson now TYM 3620H @@JoeTheFarmer

[@RandyKraege]

now im thinking of moving up a notch to 4820@@JoeTheFarmer

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I would ask @tonystractoradventures. He knows all when it comes to TYM. But I would go bigger than you think.

[@philliphall5198]

Most buy to small of tractor and it’s useless to get things done and it not good resale value Keep it simple and big enough to do real work plus you can add on different equipment and tools Big is better period 😊

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Most people buy too small at first. Super important to really think ahead. Thanks for watching!!!

[@timbrehm2085]

Just bought a house with 9 acres. Looking at a Mahindra 1640 HST with cab. Going to get a finish mower and brush hog. Any opinions on Mahindra?

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Tim, sounds beautiful! Congratulations. I don't have an opinion on Mahindra because I haven't run one. BUT, I would stress the dealer is SO important. I'd rather have a Mahindra with a great dealer than a Kioti with a horrible dealer.

[@seanitaliano8759]

Absolutely get a freaking loader! I don't care if you never put it on after you get the tractor home, it can make or break resale ability!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I agree; but man I have NEVER removed a loader! I'll take the bucket/grapple/forks off but have never removed a loader! Appreciate you watching brother!

[@dh5720]

Hay spears are a must

[@barney1941]

rim guard is 11 lbs per gal

[@tjt1992]

Definitely a cab!!!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

I agree!!! Thanks for watching brotha!

[@barney1941]

the big 3 as far as bang for buck goes is kioti tym and yanmar check these out b4 you by green(gold??) or one of them there KU-BOATERS unless you have deep pockets or a trust fund. i had a 18 yanmar 21 kioti nx and 22 tym t494 all great machines they kept getting bigger. i play with logs and rode dirtbikes for 40+ years. my body is trashed

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Let the machines do the work when the body is tired. So much easier than wearing yourself out!

[@jamesberg3106]

I chose R4 because I run to my gig on the road

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great point.

[@tesso99booke24]

I have land with a lot of trees the land is 100 acres I can afford only tractor what is your advice?

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Buy as much HP as you can afford. And trees or not; the cab will make your time in the tractor much more enjoyable. BUT - I would find a great salesperson that is willing to spend time with you to address your needs. Take your time and get the tractor you need 5 years from now...not just the one you think you need this season.

[@brandtwebber5761]

100 on what you said but nobody talks about rear remotes???

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Rear remotes are awesome!!!

[@brandtwebber5761]

The more the more gooder, atleast 2 though.

[@bennetbush4628]

Anybody got a late 60 model JD 3020 they’d like to sell? or any around that size like a 4010 maybe or I’d even consider a 886 or 986 international would be awesome too.

[@davelively1901]

Never mind the spiders....bees...yellow jackets, white tails, rain hail sleet......Epipen $600.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Absolutely!!! Dave I was lifting my box blade once from the cab with the hydraulic Top Link. there was a MASSIVE hornets nest under it and they attacked that cab with everything they had. Not one got in and now one sting. Felt good watching it get ground up in the gravel!!! Lol. Thanks for Watching!

[@rickeytrammell-ho3pt]

Just bought a new JD 4052 R cab love it should have had one years ago

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Love to hear it!!! So glad you got the machine you wanted. That cab will be a Godsend this summer! Thanks for watching.

[@AutoBob5434]

Cab with air is the ONLY way to go.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

VERY Hard to beat!!! Thanks for watching Bob!

[@mikepici5553]

Larry stovesand your dealer joe??

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Yessir. Great experience. Are you looking at them to buy?

[@mikepici5553]

I've already talked to Mike and they're going to be getting my business

[@mileshiles1287]

👍

[@JoeTheFarmer]

🕺🏻👊🏼

[@victormitchell-trejo]

Sorry to disappoint I go my tractor since 1999 MF still runs no oil change yet … don’t buy the ones with a lot plastic.. I plaw o don’t do sis jobs with it …

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Not sure what this all means?

[@CliffsideStables]

Joe at 15:55 into this episode I saw that you don’t yet have a grill guard nor tie down points for chaining the RX7320 to a trailer. I have the same tractor and have a source for both if you are interested. Tim in Oneida PS. My email can be found on my channel description page.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Tim! Yes, very interested!!!

[@barney1941]

r4 tires last the longest and most durable

[@forestpagan4813]

R14s will give you the best traction in snow and mud

[@richardbritton5280]

dealer makes the tractor!!!!!!!!!

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Agree! Major part of the purchase.

[@jdirt1982]

As a proud owner of 3/4s of one acre i want to but a new Kubota l2501 to drive to maverick to to get beer and scrap up some goat heads....

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Go for it!!!

[@waynederby4684]

Don't trade your older used tractor. You can do MUCH BETTER by selling it on the open market and it is not that hard. I did it that way and ended up coming out $15,000+ ahead of what any dealer wanted to give me for a trade in. I did make it shinny and well kept looking which it was but having look that way makes a big difference over you just having brought it in from the field for them to look at about buying it. Once you have decided to sell it stop using it,,, or keep it clean, well greased, oil changed etc all the time. If it looks hard used so will be the price someone is willing to pay..

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Great points Wayne! What did you end up buying?

[@waynederby4684]

@@JoeTheFarmer A Kubota Grand L 6060 with cab. I had for 12 yrs. when I was younger and tougher a Kubota L3800, no cab, standard . I live in northern NH and so close to Canada that if I stand on a big hill or small Mt. with a strong wind at my back I can spit & hit it. Also hot in summer and COLD in winter. Many years, heat waves & snow storms I worked on her with no problem. However as I got into my latter 60s I found that got to be a bit more than I was enjoying. I won't go into the reasons why I bought the G L 6060 as you & I will have differing opinions on the subject. Your point about finding a dealer that you feel comfortable with is to me the most important point that anyone could make. My 2 Kubota's were bought from different dealers because I no longer felt appreciated at the first one. Second one has been great!!! Other that the Original Orange is by far the very best over all. LOL, the second orange makes very respectable machines also but they aint Kubota's. LOL, just my $.02c LOL Jokingly.... Wayne A. Derby, I'm on the net.

[@JoeTheFarmer]

Hey Wayne! You will never hear me argue with Kubota quality. Great machines. They just weren’t very interested in my business and it was WAY more expensive at the time. I’m just glad you have what makes you happy my friend. 💪🏼👍🏼

[@waynederby4684]

@@JoeTheFarmer Hi Joe.. Well it is to bad the Kubota dealer was not interested in your business. You are correct that they are priced higher comparatively to Kiote. I hate to say it but to some extent they have become "paying for the name" brand but still top notch. JD is the worst as far as the name issue goes and in my area looking at them both I felt that while JD has an impeccable rep the Kubota was made better and had more to offer $ to $. I have a friend that has a Kiote and it is a very good machine. Just a small step below Kubota IMO but is probable the best Korean name. Although the parent company does make models for other brands. I have also looked at some of them but came away feeling very good about Kiote. The one brand you never hear much about but makes an excellent tractor is Yanmar. But talking with dealers they have had trouble with support which brings us back to one of the most important items is just that, the dealer & Support. Good Luck...

[@karenroberts1305]

Where does the bobcat compare? I am new to the forum.. beginning stages of doing my research. I see no mention of the white tractor.