'Awards Magnet' mailbag: A Zoe Saldaña and Ariana Grande vote-split?

[@ssshar2176]

Have a great new year you two! Thank you for the great conversation every week.

[@piadox]

For early release woes, the movie we should be talking about is Dune. How did that movie lose so much momentum? What’s WB doing? It’s not like they have any other contenders to push this year.

[@MsTriangle]

They have no money, I think. Spring releases are treated poorly in general

[@MsTriangle]

Sing Song has not been released overseas yet, that's why there's no buzz at all

[@stephaniemoore9122]

@@MsTriangle that has been a misstep critics kept Sing Sing alive

[@RodneyDollar]

Don’t think Zoe will get critics choice don’t see a sweep from one actress for supporting actress

[@MsTriangle]

36:00 Mike Faist was better than Josh O'Connor in that movie.

[@stephaniemoore9122]

@@MsTriangle does it matter now? IMO Zendaya is over rated. The story was fun the movie was fun it wasn’t the best movie out this year. Every time a good movie comes out or a decent movie comes out it’s the best movie ever 🙄 Movies have been so bad in the last 10 yrs the critics jump on anything to make themselves relevant Problem is Hollywood & most of the critics, reviewers & film podcasters r not really connected to the audience They live in LA NYC Boston Chicago London Seattle these r a handful of ppl I watch them my favorites but I disagree 75% of the time I don’t think a foreign film should be nominated for BP& BFF (Int’l.) It’s such an insult to American Film makers. Not both it’s unfair it’s stacking the deck & typical of Hollywood give it all away screw American film makers the Arts need support that’s the way 60+% of the country thinks it’s political it’s always political IF Hollywood is serious about making a comeback do the right thing stop the DEI restrictions in The Academy 90% of America & the world HATE it Start by giving the Oscar to who DESERVES it not who is owed it Again, so Hollywood thinking Critics thinking it’s absurd so they will always be playing catch up! It’s political not Artistic until they can see that….? It will be doomed for failure no matter how much hype they want to spin look at Gladiator ll the worst movie but they hyped it for months all the critics love , love, loved it Really? Time for Scott to retire & save face No he will do a Gladiator 3 this is all ego & greed on the studio hype it & don’t apologize the critics suck it up & lie to the audience again We r not stupid & see thru it. I am beginning to resent this scenario. I wish more ppl would speak up. One of the main reasons Hollywood is failing The actors need to shut up! Keep ur personal feelings to yourself u will only hurt yourself especially in the era of streaming ☮️

[@clownpendotfart]

The Churchill movie starring Brian Cox got terrible reviews. Releasing it in the fall and putting a larger marketing budget behind it wouldn't have fixed that.

[@stephaniemoore9122]

@@clownpendotfart it still wouldn’t have been good

[@jbjob2218]

a lot of Selena's fan crying here lol

[@stephaniemoore9122]

@@jbjob2218 Selena’s fandom is filled with mean girls victimhood & bullies. Gee….. I wonder where they acquired that stance from 🤔

[@SleepFan771]

Maybe Felicity Jones could benefit from an Ariana/Zoe musical vote split if The Academy want to reward a dramatic performance?

[@stephaniemoore9122]

@@SleepFan771 I know this may sound crazy but Elle Fanning & Monica Barbaro were fantastic in ACU. I know I am touting it but it was so good did not disappoint

[@RodneyDollar]

Doubt Zoe Saldana will sweep

[@ginniesoh]

I am exhausted just trying to understand these questions. 😂 how many of these questions are coming from fans idolizing certain performers? Fans are always going to be paranoid about their idols losing awards or recognition. If their idols are not in the movie will they even ask these questions 😅

[@ryyaannn_]

except the difference is this isn’t some random performance. it’s an exceptional one that is unanimously praised and deserving of nominations and wins. she just happens to be a popstar

[@ginniesoh]

If the shoe fits. 😂 I wasn’t specific about who I was talking about so I could avoid these types of hyperbolic replies. I am glad that you found joy. Good for you. Don’t need to convince everyone else.

[@stephaniemoore9122]

A Complete Unknown was amazing Chalamet incredible u felt transported & watching Dylan other podcast think Timmy may get the Sag Award & GG

[@chrisjrosen]

I could see it happening!

[@kwalton7690]

20:56 I know EXACTLY who they are talking about here. Someone who is also on GoldDerby as an Expert and being extra antidicty🤔

[@oldschoolabrahamhicks2742]

Love!

[@fluffyyellowballs]

Oh there are challengers haters out there. A lot of tennis fans I know hate that movie. I had to turn it off after twenty minutes.

[@MsTriangle]

Mostly because 'it wasn't a move about tennis'. Like bro, that's the point

[@friendlypup5650]

I’m feeling more and more confident Zoe has this in the bag, especially as Emilia Pérez show’s strength

[@HumbleGrinder]

Emilia Perez is not showing strength, you are just parading it as such. It has not won a single Best Picture/Best Director award at any precursor, and regularly loses "Best International Film" to Sacred Fig and All we can imagine as Light. It is one of the worst movies of the year and im sorry to tell you that nominations =/= wins

[@friendlypup5650]

@ you’re right, and that’s why I’m holding out the possibility bafta could go with Isabela or Felicity. But as for now Zoe could be Emilia’s one big win

[@dacrimsoncurse]

@@HumbleGrinder "it has not won a single best picture/best director award at any precursor" am i sorry? did we miss the globes, bafta pga, sag ensemble and dga? Independently how you feel about the movie, none of the industry precursors took place yet wtf are you talking about?

[@sasha76944]

@@dacrimsoncurse right? this guy is clearly on drugs what precursors is he talking about? the nebraska farm film critics circle awards or lake missisipi association awards?

[@jaychaneI]

@@HumbleGrinder Ep won best picture and best director at the european film awards, many of their voters also vote for the oscars Unlike the Gothams and the american regional awards that only give voting memberships to homosexuals with letterbox accounts living in their area

[@mudstyle5288]

International voters have put a stop to wicked

[@osofilms1319]

Calm down lol

[@stephaniemoore9122]

Good not a fan enough of wicked

[@mudstyle5288]

@@osofilms1319 I’m not excited or sad about it lol

[@BowieZ]

Just a quick question about the GoldDerby predictions web portal: why are you both listed under both Experts AND Editors? It's a little confusing because it makes your predicted films/actors seem more 'prevalent' than they are.

[@latissimusdomsi]

Company promotes own employees, shocker

[@BowieZ]

​@@latissimusdomsi Thank you kindly for the lesson in capitalism. But since the 'promotion' to which you refer seems superfluous to me, I'm actually wondering whether the company could instead prioritise the usefulness of one of its core services, which is to be a resource for gauging the current actual consensus of predictions, not a misleading one. I think that's also quite reasonable, don't you?

[@jaychaneI]

no way you guys really think academy voters are gonna vote for a popstar in a witch fantasy film over an A lister actress that worked with half of hollywood and helped the industry get billions at the box office

[@aprilnewell5434]

Jennifer Hudson's win proves, she can win.

[@HumbleGrinder]

You forgot to mention the part where Emilia Perez is one of the worst movies of the year

[@sreyangovender3404]

​@aprilnewell5434 Hudson was not a world famous popstar when she won. She still isn't

[@aprilnewell5434]

@@sreyangovender3404 The point is that she was not an A lister. In fact she was known for American Idol, which she lost.

[@jaychaneI]

@@aprilnewell5434 since when is jennifer hudson a popstar? and who was her competition? a previous oscar winner, a 7 year old, a mexican actress and a japanese actress come up with something smart

[@RMJH96]

Zoë delivered the better performance.

[@Richlove-cakes]

Lol did you watch the opening scene of Wicked?

[@RMJH96]

@ lol you don’t wanna compare Zoë’s opening in Emilia Perez to Ariana’s.

[@timgriffin3368]

Awards season is odd and I Love it. For this broadcast, Wicked, and past, Dune 2, they each have a next part coming out and, in this era, that is why you can easily take them out of the running for the win, not the nod ( they can easily reward with the next film ). The only, correct me if I'm wrong, part 1 winner is The Godfather. Hence, my statement of 'in this era'. Have fun; it's just awards. Calm down and you know who you are.

[@sreyangovender3404]

The Godfather is not a part 1. Only in hindsight

[@timgriffin3368]

​Ok, still a first out of three no matter how you twist it ​@@sreyangovender3404

[@AwardsJunkie1999]

Isabella is going to win.

[@ktom5262]

That would be a bad joke, she's on the screen for about 2 minutes and does nothing special or difficult acting-wise. If she wins it will be because of her very long and respectable acting career.

[@AwardsJunkie1999]

@ she’s actually a supporting performance, Ariana isn’t

[@ryyaannn_]

@@AwardsJunkie1999she literally is

[@dahomey2001]

@@ryyaannn_ she has more than 1 hour and a half of screentime, that's a lead performance category fraud at it's finest

[@AwardsJunkie1999]

@@ryyaannn_ remind me what category Chenoweth was nominated for at the Tony’s? That’s right LEAD

[@ktom5262]

I do not love Challengers at all. I don't understand its popularity and critical success, for me it's a movie about three unlikeable and boring persons. It's not a good movie about relationships or love and it's not a good movie about tennis either.

[@piadox]

We are out here! The most underwhelming movie of the year, as a fan of Guadagnino. The script was very shallow and it was more style than substance. The score did all the heavy lifting for me.

[@MsTriangle]

You need to have a basic understanding of human psychology to truly appreciate the film.

[@ktom5262]

@MsTriangle LOL yes, patronize me, way to go. A smart MsTriangle educating a hillbilly like me. I think the script of Challengers has as little to do with the psychology of real people in real life as the script of a Marvel movie. It's pretentious rubbish. And it doesn't say anything true about the world of professional tennis either.