Awful Archaeology Ep. 2: The Orontius Finaeus Map by Miniminuteman

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@Plaugus_Screenz 10 ай бұрын

Miniminiteman has a 4 part series going over gramham and his netflix series over the pre iceage civilization

@Plaugus_Screenz 10 ай бұрын

In it he goes over who gram is and goes over what it would take to prove a super advanced pre ice age civilization and goes over what gram shows and says goes over what we know of said things and sites and compares the facts we currently do know and what gram says. Grams psych degree vs miniminuteman and his archeology degree

@LilRedWitch 5 ай бұрын

@@Plaugus_Screenzplus he got one of the actual experts that was interviewed on the show! It was awesome 👏🏻

@sebastianwagner7334 10 ай бұрын

Hoooly crap, did not expect seeing Milo on this channel. Thank you. Thank you for this gift. Also, Awful Archeology 7 about the Gosford Glyphs is very interesting with an hilarious "reveal". I haven't confirmed my phone yet on your discord so I write this here.

@giuseppe9653 10 ай бұрын

YESS!! Finally reactions to Milo, the guy is fucking awesome

@showeritonthenavy7788 10 ай бұрын

you should see how he breaks down graham Handcock's documentary. it was quite entertaining. im not saying i don't trust Handcock some of what he says is plausible, but I believe he is trying so hard to prove what he is saying that he clings onto even the wildest completely disproven theory's that support his views. in that Netflix series for example the amount of time he devotes to basically saying i think this is from an pre ice age civilisation because why not it does look like it. that does have an effect on his wider scientific standing.

@lolloblue9646 10 ай бұрын

And the victim mentality of "boo hoo everyone's against me", the deliberate shit-throwing at "mainstream archaeology" that "doesn't want to change the dogma". He's a hack, nothing more nothing less.

@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488 10 ай бұрын

Minimutemen actually had a series about Hancocks theory and tv show that you should watch

@cerberus0225 10 ай бұрын

Feels weird to start on ep 2 but glad to see you checking this guy out nonetheless. He does good stuff. Definitely recommend his takedown of Hancock's Netflix series, he is...thorough. And unlike Hancock, is an actual archaeologist. That said, its a very long series, so, be prepared for that if you go into that. As for Hancock himself, he's a quack with a persecution complex as far as I'm concerned. His "evidence" only makes any kind of sense if you're unfamiliar with archaeology, which unfortunately a lot of people are. For example: he will claim that a bunch of old temples on Malta were aligned facing vaguely east-southeast because they were supposed to be built to align with a specific star, and the small variations in their orientation were intentional in order to be aligned with where the star was positioned in the past. This he takes as proof that the temples are tens of thousands of years old and built over the course of millenia. This ignores all the far more understandable evidence that show the temples to be only in the ballpark of thousands of years old, all roughly the same age, and rather than being built to face a star that they wouldn't have even fully aligned with and that we have no evidence of being of any importance to this ancient culture, they probably faced the sunrise, and the variation is because they were built by humans who were just happy to make the literally-handbuilt buildings face roughly eastward. And this is one of his less egregious claims, to be frank. Edit: After listening to a bit more, idk if you're too familiar with Hancock's work, but lemme just summarize. What you describe, a pre-Ice Age civilization of some sort, with buildings, cities on a river mouth, agriculture, etc? I could buy that existing. But that's not what Hancock writes about. Its often what he starts with- the reasonable idea to lure people in and get them listening. But then he starts to imply that they had influence all over the world, that they were hyper-advanced, etc, etc, and often repeats the same arguments that Atlantis hunters made. To put it bluntly, its crock conspiracy nonsense.

@kymlehde3794 2 ай бұрын

An archeologist who's never actually done anything archeology related in the field. HE ADMITS THIS

@blitsriderfield4099 3 ай бұрын

Hey, Milo isn't saying the climate hasn't been changing for millions of years, he's saying THIS instance of climate change is not a part of that cycle. He breaks it down REALLY well in his recent video about the Green Sahara.

@justinw-s1694 10 ай бұрын

I would recommend the series Milo did on the netflix documentary series that Hancock did. He goes into great detail and explains why it would be interesting to have an ice age civilization but also goes through all of Hancock's points and shows why the evidence he is using is no good. Even if there was one, the things Hancock has chosen to represent it don't well and Milo shows how.

@thetalkingbear 10 ай бұрын

With advancement in ground penetrating radar and other tech is making locating buried ruins much easier.

@kirstygunn9149 6 ай бұрын

Milo is a qualified archaeologist and an amazing teacher.

@blackout0938 10 ай бұрын

Literally just found this channel earlier today and then you showed up. The timing is immaculate

@bthsr7113 10 ай бұрын

I found out about Milo when he was doing a drinking game with Atun Shei. Good times.

@landonmoses6663 7 ай бұрын

I'd really recommend watching Milo's series on Graham Hancock. I think you'll feel a lot better about calling the guy a quack.

@ladeao1552 10 ай бұрын

I would love more of these reactions. I was never this kind of history buff but I find it fascinating all the same.

@barneyhall2753 6 ай бұрын

Evidence of habitations that are now under sea water is not as difficult to find as you might think. Doggerland was the area of the North Sea that was dry land in past times of low sea level. Remnants of early people and their culture have been found washed up on beaches in area and caught in fishing nets.

@bencebenedek2610 10 ай бұрын

Ther should be a speaker connected to the ringlight. When you turn the ringlight on the speaker shouts SOLAR FLARE!!!

@Akbar_and_Shaa 10 ай бұрын

Very fun reaction enjoyed the added context from your thoughts on the subject. Hope you make more of these reactions

@ChrissieBear 9 күн бұрын

10:30 the problem isn't that the climate is changing, the problem is that it's changing faster than normal, and nature isn't adapting fast enough. We've had more climate change in the last century than some periods get in tens of thousands of years.

@dontshanonau1335 10 ай бұрын

I hope he does the Baghdad battery one with the follow-up episode. That two-parter was good, even though they didn't go as far knto defixiones as I'd have liked.

@loganlautenschlager6885 10 ай бұрын

No way I've been watching his awful archeology series and his shorts he has some awesome content

@billyelliot4141 10 ай бұрын

22:25 he literally predicted 2024. A prophet.

@bareakon 2 ай бұрын

Milo does happen to have training as a climate scientist, so I think there's a lot of info he could pass onto you to sharpen and possibly vindicate aspects of your thoughts on the subject.

@przemog88 10 ай бұрын

No, civilizations didn't need to arise at the coasts, only fresh water is needed for a city to arise. The oldest known city is Tell Brak, please find in on the map and check how fat away from the coast it was. Same with Uruk, the second oldest known city. Also, to have cities (which are necessary to have a civilization) you need to have agriculture.

@DizzPants 7 ай бұрын

Well this might depend on the area in question. Usually you find Stone-age settlements around areas that are close to fishing and hunting grounds. Which is usually located around lakes and rivers. I'm not sure how the stone-age people in the US were doing things but in Europe there's strong evidece for Mesolithic and sometimes Neolithic people living a periodical semi-nomadic lifestyle. What this would mean is that they moved according to seasons where they spent Winters and early spring around the coast and later spring to autumn more inland where their hunting grounds where. When talking about Uruk we're talking mid-neolithic people settling down when adopting agriculture.

@palomaroggeri8680 2 ай бұрын

OMG FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE REACTING TO MYLO!!!

@falsehero2001 10 ай бұрын

Coincidentally, I just watched a Why Files episode where they discussed the Orontius Finaeus Map uncritically.

@redactedredacted4080 10 ай бұрын

21:30 born in 1998 mom & dad said the same thing.

@Makkovar 10 ай бұрын

Awe, this series rocks!

@ladeao1552 10 ай бұрын

I could see Milo being up for a conversation for content, think he may be a little busy at the moment though.

@jpjh8844 10 ай бұрын

Spent 20 years in the Air Force, Steak and Lobster Sundays while deployed were always a fun time.

@DracoJ 8 ай бұрын

He has several brilliant series going over different topics. Please do more miniminuteman! Dark routes - a expedition series on a motorcycle throughout the American southwest exploring sites their. Archeology in turkey - an expedition series visiting different ruins from turkey Ancient apocalypse - a series going through the Graham Hancock's netflix series. Awful Archeology - you're already watching it but it's basically just debunking conspiracies. Now he also has a few one offs or small series not officially declared as series. Snapchat news and tik tok debunks - he brings up insane people or articles who believe in conspiracy and makes fun if them while telling us the truth or what he thinks about it. Bass pro shops pyramid - an april fools schtick that is a hilarious watch.

@ChibiTheEdgehog 7 ай бұрын

A Coast would be the closest thi g to the surface thats not underwater if the land was submerged. We would be one of the 1st places we looked for evidence of civilization

@LilRedWitch 5 ай бұрын

YESS we love Milo 🙌🏻 I hope you enjoy! I hope you react to more!

@ChrissieBear 9 күн бұрын

The problem with Graham Hancock is that he keeps appropriating the achievements of ancient civilizations and pretending they're evidence of an older superior civilisation, because god forbid ancient people achieved things on their own.

@jayford2901 6 ай бұрын

There is in the black sea. Dr Robert Ballard found it

@2l84t 6 ай бұрын

Hancock is the Les Nessman of Archeology parroting Daniken. I read Chariots of the Gods when it came out. There is only one picture in the book I can't satisfactorily explain.

@woodchuck94og 10 ай бұрын

Love Milo's videos

@thetalkingbear 10 ай бұрын

Milo is pretty good. I've seen much of his content.

@baneofshadow515 Ай бұрын

Look at the why files. AJ did videos about this map and gobelki tepei

@howardhavardramberg333 10 ай бұрын

This subject is super fascinating! And Graham Hancock does work closely with Randall Carlson who's able to shed light on the framework because some of Graham's ideas are a bit woo-woo, I love 90% of what both men preach frankly.

@RipOffProductionsLLC 10 ай бұрын

While I could buy that there were civilizations during the ice age that got devastated by the shifting climates and are now lost to history, Hancock's proposed globe spanning empire is not reasonable. It tries to unify too many things under one umbrella, while I could buy that the frequent trend of flood myths all over the world is likely tied to the end of tge ice age, tgat doesn't mean it was one single flood story that got shared globally, there were likely many flood in many places, similarities arrise because there's only so many ways a stone age individual can survive a flood.

@eternal221 2 ай бұрын

Hey just a heads up: Change the title, some may consider it misleading. Place your name + reacts at the beginning to seem less fishy.

@TheBunzinator 7 ай бұрын

But hang on.... VERY broad generalisations to follow. if it was a PRE ice age civilisation, then wouldn't the water levels be similar(ish) to now? When the ice age started, water would be trapped in the ice sheets, and water levels of the oceans would drop. When the ice age ended, then roughly the same amount of water would melt, and sea levels would go back to where they were. Your point of the civilisations being under water would therefore only be valid if they rose DURING the ice age. Hancock's biggest problem is that he willfully ignores evidence that goes against his beliefs.

@OldManReacts 7 ай бұрын

The ice age happened during the Pleistocene, and it lasted almost 2.6 million years. When it kicked off we were all still in Africa, and we were barely starting to become human. By the time humans had dispersed the ice age was well into it's prime, and we only truly became homo sapiens in the last few hundred thousand years. A good amount of ancient civilizations rose near coastal regions, and those coastal regions that existed 11,000 years ago are now four hundred feet underwater. That's why I'm making the point. The concept of finding evidence of a civilization that existed previously to 11,000 years ago is so close to impossible it's silly. I'm not insisting they did exist, but I am saying that people who claim 100% that they didn't are a little arrogant. No one can prove it either way, it's part of a grey area in history of which we have hundreds of examples. I think the biggest problem with us today is the fact that we can't admit there are things we simply don't know.

@terryhiggins5077 10 ай бұрын

I personally like a lot of Milo's content, but he does have a habit of coming off as a smarmy, holier than thou type at times. Honestly I think the map is surprisingly accurate, especially for something made from basically thin air. Its pretty similar, but calling it accurate is laughable. I think it's nothing more than a coincidence that the landmass the cartographers put there, just so happened to be in roughly the right place, sorta kinda if you squint, the same shape as Antarctica.

@woodchuck94og 10 ай бұрын

Because he is u peasant

@lop90ful1 10 ай бұрын

His content is great but his personality is more on the snariker side and well he is one of those people that blames "le capitalism" for his problens so thats like a massive minus to enjoyability of content everything outside his actaul personality is pretty great

@RipOffProductionsLLC 10 ай бұрын

@lop90ful1 I also feel like he harps on the racism of past archeologists a bit too much, I think everyone knows the past was full of racists, you can just say "this popular/well known theory/interpretation of this evidence was wrong because [name here] was racist and didn't trust/believe/even ask the locals about what any of this was" and move on with expluaning the actual truth we've learned since.

@ReinaSaurus 6 ай бұрын

antarctica ice-free? do you take bets whether it may happen now or not? 🤣

@barneyhall2753 6 ай бұрын

Amazing to think that over 400 m of ice has been deposited in only a few centuries. So much for ice core results that suggests an ice free age more than 4 orders of magnitude higher. Also, Where was all that water stored? Modelling suggests that an ice free Antarctica would result in significantly higher sea levels around the globe.🤣

@fatcoyote2 10 ай бұрын

Love Ironlily. Would love to see a Final Fantasy Tactics style game of her Little Sisters of the Ordo Mediare. Was in the Army. Was deployed. Was not combat arms, so I'll say this: Gunners in manual turrets typically wear max armor on their upper torsos (pauldrons, elbow pads, gloves, bevars & gorget, ballistic glasses, reinforced helmet), but strip down as much as possible from lower body, which is usually just skirts anyways, but sometimes extra plates. Don't need it. Infantry typically wear the basics, but most forego elbow pads, pauldrons, and anything around the neck. Too damn hot.