Did Mozelle EVER Tell Julian She DOOMED Him? | Eve's Bayou

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Axiom Amnesia

Axiom Amnesia

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@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Mozelle ever told Julian that she was cursed and he was going to die if he stayed with her?
@12Lanye
@12Lanye 2 жыл бұрын
No, I guess she did not. And I think that is why part of the curse was on her, because maybe as a deceitful person the other lady that read her fortune she had a good reason to curse Mozelle. And maybe the only way of Mozelle breaking free was telling the truth and being truthful to herself and those who surrounded her.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm... That's an interesting way to look at it. Maybe it was deceit that trapped her in the curse... 🤔
@12Lanye
@12Lanye 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia Yes! That’s what I thought because most of the problems caused in the family are because of lies and deceit. So, in a sense Mozelle and Eve’s father being the same, she was referencing that both were deceitful and thus the people surrounding them died. I was thinking as well that the fact the movie is called Eve’s Bayou has to do with the first woman in the Bible, that she was also deceived because of a lie 🤔
@getfam1liar
@getfam1liar 2 жыл бұрын
Actually 1 year later before they were planned to wed, the little red head niece shares the story of Aunt Mozelle's previous marriages to Julian. While Mozelle is giving a reading to one of her clients, her niece asks Julian if he is afraid he will die if he marries her aunt, to which Julian questions her why she would ask such a question. Ultimately with her sharing the story of tale told to her.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this from?
@deedeek2485
@deedeek2485 2 жыл бұрын
Julian Greyraven (long hair, his attire) is depicted as a Native man, maybe a healer himself. When he places his hand over her heart, he says “You’re not barren. You’re wounded.” Her heart. I think the point was to show how curses can be lifted in different ways. She carried pain and guilt from her actions and loss from each relationship. The first death may have put into her heart and mind that it was a curse, but she just began to carry too much pain that manifested itself into a curse. When you don’t heal, it can be literal death for you and others.
@C.kirk1287
@C.kirk1287 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I always felt like Juilian was Native in the movie and something about his essence makes the audience feel as if he is a protector in some ways. Well at least that’s how I looked at his character but the way you put it could also be a great theory
@voodeux_badeux
@voodeux_badeux 2 жыл бұрын
@@C.kirk1287 same. I said the same thing. I thought it was obvious he was Choctaw Indian. I guess I’ve just been around them enough to see him for what he was.
@corimoon3360
@corimoon3360 Жыл бұрын
@@voodeux_badeux Just because it’s obvious to YOU doesn’t mean it is to everyone. That should be common knowledge.
@MamiTuTu
@MamiTuTu Жыл бұрын
I think it was lifted when Louis was murdered
@RahYisrael99
@RahYisrael99 2 жыл бұрын
Elzora has gray hair which gives her the appearance of being Mozelles mothers age. Maybe mom took Elzoras husband and the curse was placed on the entire family. Anyone who falls in love with a Batiste is destined to suffer. Part of the curse is that people are destined to fall in love and worship the Batiste and suffer as a result. Even Mr Monroe said to Dr. "I loved you, I trusted you". Look what happened to the eldest daughter when she fell in love with her father. The wife was also suffering internally for leaving her family behind due to her worship of Dr Batiste. Eve may be the one powerful enough to break the curse as she was never as smitten with her father as her sister was. Julian's fate was sealed once he fell for Mozelle.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey RM and thanks for watching! There was a lot of suffering indeed surrounding the Batiste family and their relationships!
@cuteyalexia
@cuteyalexia 2 жыл бұрын
But Mozelle’s mother isn’t a Batiste though. She married into the Batiste family. Plus, it sounds like the curse is from generations before that. I have to rewatch the movie to be sure.
@leahhart3585
@leahhart3585 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe it’s something like this. It strange that the whole family having some kind of inappropriate or uncontrollable sexual desires.
@kikyomoon2996
@kikyomoon2996 2 жыл бұрын
​@@leahhart3585 showing us in are face family deal with witchcraft that's typing into demonic face demon hold can come I to your children by generation curse demons make have unclean through not all demons will manifest you have one wouldn't even know cause open doors for them enter you your life
@MamiTuTu
@MamiTuTu Жыл бұрын
I believe the first part about the curse but I believe when ever had the curse placed on her father. The curse was broken when he died
@lissette15
@lissette15 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he will die because she finally acknowledged her role in what happened with her husbands. Also I believe she’s changed her behavior and won’t make the same mistakes. I also believe that Julian knows something about spells and might know how to break curses.
@theorderofthebees7308
@theorderofthebees7308 2 жыл бұрын
The actor that played Julian was married to Kasi Lemmons the director - imagine directing your husband to kiss better ! Wow !
@juelzanthony1168
@juelzanthony1168 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just mad that the director doesn't have more things on TV I wish this director had her own series... And just for the record nobody who can see the past can ever see the future it's one or the other I'd like to have that added to a series
@autumnasters
@autumnasters 2 жыл бұрын
As a woman who recently lost the woman that she loves, I can honestly say that I would sacrifice my own happiness IN A HEARTBEAT if i knew it would allow her to live.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss. ❤️
@lingeringquestions519
@lingeringquestions519 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you're grieving right now and your love is so pure.
@C.kirk1287
@C.kirk1287 2 жыл бұрын
Condolences to you sweetheart ❤
@autumnasters
@autumnasters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys.
@voodeux_badeux
@voodeux_badeux 2 жыл бұрын
Julian Is Not Doomed!!! First I absolutely love that you're giving my favorite movie so much attention...it literally warms my heart. I can relate to this film in ways that most cant and I've studied this film for years! With that said....yall both wrong lol. Let's start with the basics, Mozelles previous husband's were basic negroes...okay! Kasi Lemmons picked Julian as Mozelles final lover cause she knew the curse wouldn't affect somebody who is clearly the descendant of the Choctaw Indians of Louisiana. You can see it in his appearance, the way he wears his hat, the love of art and creating...he is a different breed of negroe and it shows. When Mozelle tells him that she is cursed, he doesn't even flinch cause he knows he is spelled too and that won't affect him. The gag is he probably already knows and he works roots himself. I wouldnt be surprised if he came from the same tribe as Eloza...they are sporting the same mane baby. That is NOT a coincidence. Julian is the one and they indeed lived happily ever after. And yall know the actor that played Julian is Kasi Lemmons real life man...she ain't killing him. This soldier will NOT be falling on his own sword. #Dolla #ididntneednocatbonestotellmedat bye!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Interesting angle with the Native heritage as a component.
@corimoon3360
@corimoon3360 Жыл бұрын
To tell someone that they’re wrong for a movie that’s open to interpretation is really ignorant lol. You really think you have the final say on a movie just because you think you “relate in ways that most can’t” ??? Get off your damn high horse buddy. It’s a movie. You wanna be special sooooo bad.
@JazzieBlu89
@JazzieBlu89 Жыл бұрын
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@akiraimani1591
@akiraimani1591 2 жыл бұрын
He’s only doomed if they actually get married but I think it’s something different about Julian so I don’t think he is going to die like the others and I think he knows
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Akira, how do you think Julian will get out of it?
@VeeRose8888
@VeeRose8888 2 жыл бұрын
You guys rock! I do believe that her curse was broken by her brother after his passing. Mozelle did kinda hint it in her conversation with Eve regarding her dream at the end. Her brother told her to allow a woman to drown and keep flying. This allowed her to feel strong enough to tell Julian she'll marry him. In all aspect Mozelle is a counselor and healer. She brings comfort and closer that does aid in people to put in work to heal themselves. The problem, in my opinion, after having her fortune told Mozelle didn't have enough time to figure out how to heal herself and break her own curse before Julian arrived. That's probably reading too much into her story but she did get comfort from her brother after his passing and she did keep saying in the movie that her and her brother are a like or two of a kind. The other fortune teller and Mozelle were right when all readings were read. After the incident with slapping the oldest daughter the father had an opportunity or window to fix his situation with his eldest daughter and wife (the letter Eve found in her father's study). He was supposed to have seen Roz for the first time and he would've started setting boundaries and things were supposed to have gotten better but because Eve planted seeds in Mr. Monroe's head he never got too. All and all my theory is her brother saw the problem after his passing and since he was denied fixing his own problems instead fixed his sister's issue instead through a dream to her while leaving a message to his youngest daughter. Just saying. Correct me if I'm wrong in any way. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber. I really love discussions like this on movies and music videos. Thanks again.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vee and thanks so much for watching and for your thoughtful comments! I think Louis coming in the dream was to being peace to his loved ones, but I'm not sure that broke the curse. I agree that in the movie, after his passing, he was able to see the errors of his ways in his own life and the troubles it caused. I agree with you that Louis died right before his opportunity to fix the situation.
@MrJackson7785
@MrJackson7785 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. I would have to imagine that she either told him or he has heard around town but just doesn’t care. I am from a Louisiana town where everyone knows and talks about people around town. Plus I am from a Creole family like the Batiste. He would have known.
@CleanMusicLover229
@CleanMusicLover229 2 жыл бұрын
He's only doomed if they got married.
@MamiTuTu
@MamiTuTu Жыл бұрын
​@@CleanMusicLover229no he's not lol. The curse was broken
@purplebanana6420
@purplebanana6420 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the spider was a symbolic of Moselle because some female spiders after mating will kill the male spider
@tonymolatto1904
@tonymolatto1904 2 жыл бұрын
No she will not tell. Mozelle was cursed because she never revealed her curse. If revealed the curse would break but she is too much like her brother to reveal the truth. That is why the witch doctor said she will always be cursed. Julian will meet his end because of Mozelle.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Okay Tony! So the truth would set her free!
@tonymolatto1904
@tonymolatto1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia Exactly. Mozelle truths others but lies to herself & those close to her. If the men find out she probably lies. It is shown the bloodline lies & puts people in webs.. Also the women live but the men don't fair too well. Mozelle is a black widow but lives but her brother & other men are not & they die.
@kanicarter5154
@kanicarter5154 2 жыл бұрын
I think Julian may have also been cursed, which in a twist of fate, led him to Mozelle. No need to tell him. I think there was a silent, mutual understanding and that if they were both doomed, they'll suffer this doom TOGETHER. Maybe each of his wives or loves left him and he went to Mozelle for his own curse... just a thought.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
😲
@setabeauty211
@setabeauty211 2 жыл бұрын
Julian seemed like he wouldn’t care if he died to be with her. The fact that he went that long and lost everything but still looking for his wife showed how passionate he was about love. Maybe she warned him in private but he wouldn’t have it any other way! I also feel like there was something special about Julian lol like he was an Angel or something it might have just been his appearance with the long hair.
@aerincreerREAL
@aerincreerREAL 2 жыл бұрын
9:51 I think it’s a nod to Romeo and Juliet. It was quoted often in the movie and like you guys said, it’s a love story about sacrifice. Knowing that it’ll end poorly and not care. I also could see her ending her life with him like Juliet did.
@kimberly8695
@kimberly8695 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing you guys' theory about Nino Brown in NEW JACK CITY, I immediately subscribed to your channel. It was a thorough examination of all the major players, and I loved how you went through it with a fine-toothed comb. That said, I'm going to watch all your theory videos. As for whether Julian can escape Mozelle's curse, I tend to think of it the way I do when I listen to discussions the Greek tragedies. When the main character visits the Oracle of Delphi (insert ominous thunderclap), they hear the bad news, then go about doing everything they can to change or avoid it, but with no success. Think Oedipus. However, I have also been hearing discussions on the latest GOD OF WAR game. In the Greek series, Kratos does not allow the Sisters of Fate to determine the outcome of his life story (never mind also killing them). However, once he makes it to the Nordic realm and encounters the Norns, they also try to tell him of his fate. This is also the case with Atreus and Angrboda. Her paintings were telling an interpretation of his possible future. Ultimately, the two learn that changing their behavior and habits can determine their respective outcomes. I commented on the longer version of this analysis that their curse was infidelity. Changing that might have saved Louis and Mozelle's husbands.
@Narc63
@Narc63 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if elzora was purposely sending these lovers to mozelle to torment her because she really has a gift and she doesn’t??
@CleanMusicLover229
@CleanMusicLover229 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Elzora put a curse on the Batiste.
@londonblues7070
@londonblues7070 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting...I never thought of that...
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 2 жыл бұрын
IF this ever gets a sequel, I have a feeling the women might find and dig up the wax coffin. I believe Eve will tell Mozelle what happened... when the curse kills again. If there is another movie, it would be a weird prequel, sequel. We see the death of a loved one or maybe Julian dodges death and gets a glimpse at the curse I REALLY believe he's intuitive. We then get the story of why the curse was placed and then they have to appease it and find out where the wax coffin is buried... actually Eve was told where it was buried. We also will get the bonus story of who was El Zora.
@jasmine_beenraw
@jasmine_beenraw 2 жыл бұрын
A black widow is a woman spiritually gifted for the most part who god wants to himself! He allows temporary love but women like these need to stick to their gifts an be guide’s to others while on earth
@Ashas.Garden
@Ashas.Garden Жыл бұрын
She didn’t tell him and that’s her being dishonest. It’s too bad, really. Sine Curses can be lifted with a lot if help. He could have helped her for their future; she didn’t know what he knew or WHO he knew that could’ve helped.
@remingtonsteele5295
@remingtonsteele5295 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed! I love you guy's theories and usually agree..but this time I'm gonna suggest something. It seems as though Julian is involved with the mystical side of life as well, what if it takes that type of partner to override a black widow curse..I remember him saying, that she was only wounded, he may have the elixir..
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Remington!!! I'm open to the idea that Julian could be the antidote, or at least they could search together for the cure. We kind of talk about that when we were saying that maybe we could find the cure if we were the characters in the film. 😊
@Stillpril
@Stillpril 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that Deliverance is the only way to break a generational curse
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 2 жыл бұрын
Curses can be broken. I think the man knew. He gave me the impression he was a healer or intuitive man. I believe he broke or negated the curse or he causes it to slow down. I don't believe she took that cursed secret to the grave... she loves this man. She has guilt over her three dead husbands and to not tell Julian... it doesn't add up. After her brother's death, I believe she finally told him.
@kevinscott1547
@kevinscott1547 2 ай бұрын
I feel that she probably didn't tell him, but because it's a small community, Julian either would find out about it later and forgive her or he might have already known and didn't believe it nor care about it.
@Lamarburgerandjoe
@Lamarburgerandjoe Жыл бұрын
So good morning 🌅 I had to actually go back and watch this movie again because as a kid I never paid it no mind but it was good now looking at it it's a masterpiece it's actually deep but I love y'all's content 💕
@ebonywilliams-dillard4550
@ebonywilliams-dillard4550 2 жыл бұрын
I love you guys Channel already I couldn't sleep last night and somehow you guys channel showed up with Eve's Bayou as the topic 1 of my mom's and I favorite movies! I watched the entire thing and got up this morning to tell my mom and we sat and watched it again and discussed some of the points you guys brought up. Also with Jason's Lyric.. thank you guys for bringing these cult classics back alive with deeper thought. New subbie for life!! 💫
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ebony and we're so glad you found us! Welcome aboard! 😊
@valateanmitchell3265
@valateanmitchell3265 2 жыл бұрын
I think Zora was predicting that the curse was coming to an end for Mozel. Zora stated that "Next man you marry is a dead man." not will be a dead man. So in a way she was saying that she would have a successful union this time. He did seem to be dead when he showed up. He began to fit in with the family.
@valateanmitchell3265
@valateanmitchell3265 2 жыл бұрын
The spider looked like it was shedding its skin.
@valateanmitchell3265
@valateanmitchell3265 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed.
@urielblaylock8615
@urielblaylock8615 2 жыл бұрын
I think she told him eventually. And I think the reason she was cursed is because maybe one of her past lovers was elzoras husband that left her for Mozelle. Idk just guessing
@lrs1519
@lrs1519 2 жыл бұрын
What if…he already knew about this curse and he didn’t car bc he was still so in love with his wife that if death comes with being with Mozelle, so be it. He’ll be set free from his misery.
@Stillpril
@Stillpril 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Julian is doomed unless Moselle gets deliverance from that curse and only God can do that.
@mssweets6119
@mssweets6119 2 жыл бұрын
If Mozelle doesn’t cheat on Julian then the curse will be broken and he won’t die . If she cheats he’s a goner!!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
😂 We like this theory! The question is whether we can say for sure Mozelle cheated on her first husband, Anderson. 🤔
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia Or her last husband.... she only admitted to cheating on hubby #2.
@rayb1091
@rayb1091 2 жыл бұрын
I believe she causes the curse. It doesn't matter, he is not leaving her even if she tells him. He's too into her. His mind will convince him the curse not real.
@Scweetoof
@Scweetoof 2 жыл бұрын
So first off I’m pretty sure he’s supposed to be a native man and he comes off as a healer or shamanic practitioner or something. I believe when she had that dream and left her “dead self” behind I felt that was supposed to signify her breaking her personal curse.
@BreanaDenise
@BreanaDenise 2 жыл бұрын
I think the difference between Mozelle & Julian is that when Julian came to see her about his Wife, she was able to see a vision. When talking to Eve, Mozelle stated that when she tried to look at her other Husband’s futures, she couldn’t see anything. So I feel like that’s the only caveat between Julian and Mozelle’s Husbands.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point about the fact that Mozelle could see something for Julian when she said she saw nothing of the previous husbands. The question I have is whether she meant she saw nothing period or whether seeing nothing was only in reference to their future. With Julian she didn't see his future, she saw his wife's whereabouts and what she was up to. This is a great observation that makes me think!
@BreanaDenise
@BreanaDenise 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia Exactly! That’s another good point as well. Thanks for replying to my post, you guys are awesome and I love your channel!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and I look forward to more great discussions about the movies we love! :-)
@jasmine_beenraw
@jasmine_beenraw 2 жыл бұрын
That’s “no it don’t”😂😂😂😂
@naryahshanae
@naryahshanae 2 жыл бұрын
This literally is my favorite serious that y’all did … this movie is very interesting and I always wondered if it was a family curse. It just makes sense
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ❤️😊
@geminilady11
@geminilady11 Жыл бұрын
I think the death of her brother broke her curse that's why he told her in the dream don't look back
@aliciaveal1284
@aliciaveal1284 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. Just discovered ya'll today thru your other Eve video. Love the dynamic ya'll got going and ya'll give some great thoughts and insights. Can't wait to watch more of your content.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alicia and welcome aboard! We love talking about these movies and we look forward to hearing your thoughts as you see more of the videos. I'd recommend you watch either the Queen & Slim or the Jason's Lyric video next. I think you'll like those! 😊
@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH
@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH 2 жыл бұрын
That Eve’s Bayou video was GREAT! That’s how I discovered them too.
@michelleclark7031
@michelleclark7031 2 жыл бұрын
Debbie Morgan is gorgeous ❤
@black_skies650
@black_skies650 Жыл бұрын
"Julius is doomed!!" Im binge watching😩💙lol
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia Жыл бұрын
Yessss!!! Thanks so much for watching!
@black_skies650
@black_skies650 Жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia 💙
@VidWatcher01
@VidWatcher01 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe 4th times the charm?🤷🏾‍♀️ Also I always thought Elzora was just messing with Mozelle because she was turning up her nose at her. Why not use the cat bones? Because Elzora knew that would cut Mozelle like a knife
@whiskeybrown262
@whiskeybrown262 Жыл бұрын
Another Black Classic 💎
@ddivar
@ddivar 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. Mozelle is a curse, but also is cursed to be barren. She told him her curse of being barren, but she doesn’t at that time fully take responsibility of being a curse to her husbands. In the end when she does own that she is a curse, she selfishly continues to pursue this marriage and blames Julian for being persistent. Julian’s fate was sealed when he was pointed in her direction. Mozelle, just like Louis cannot resist her urges. All the Batiste by blood are cursed or curses and it all has to do with love and attention. Eve’s love for her sister, Mozelle’s and Louis’ love of attention and affection, and Cisely’s love for her father. The Baptiste women are the curse that leads to death, while the Baptist men are curse to die. What happened to all the Baptist men, in the movie we only see two and by the end only one is left.
@jolleenwilliamson156
@jolleenwilliamson156 2 жыл бұрын
She did tell warned Julien she was cursed he said to her your not cursed just your just need to healed he just was willing to still get married to her
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Jolleen, she said she was cursed then talked about being barren, thus implying that her curse was being barren. We know that Julian was talking about being barren because he addresses the barren part but doesn't mention being doomed himself because of her.
@hillarystroughter804
@hillarystroughter804 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, I went back and watched the movie and couldn't help noticing that Mozelle was flirting with a different man during the party scene before Harry passed. It's in the background and I think only subliminally placed in the scene but interesting nonetheless.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting find!!! I'll have to take another look now!
@hillarystroughter804
@hillarystroughter804 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia this kind of makes me think that maybe the curse is fulfilled when she blatantly messes around with other men while her husband (s) had knowledge of it. Maybe Harry got so drunk because he saw what she was doing and that was his way of coping. Maynard was killed in his own home because, even though Mozelle was ready to leave, I believe she only changed her mind because Maynard proved that he was willing to die for her. I don't think she thought it would actually happen though. Also, Mozelle did say that she couldn't see any of her husband's futures which may have been the thing that initially attracted her to them. But she did see Julian's which makes me think that maybe he did come into her life to heal her of the curse that she holds in her heart and hince his line where he essentially states that he can heal her.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point about the fact that Mozelle could see something for Julian when she said she saw nothing of the previous husbands. The question I have is whether she meant she saw nothing period or whether seeing nothing was only in reference to their future. With Julian she didn't see his future, she saw his wife's whereabouts and what she was up to. This is a great observation that makes me think!
@SmarchitectMann
@SmarchitectMann 2 жыл бұрын
Of course she didn't tell him the full extent of the curse.
@indiaa.7851
@indiaa.7851 Жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed! Loving your analysis! This is one of my all time favorite movies!
@DOEGrindz
@DOEGrindz 2 жыл бұрын
"Julien is doomed" Question?.. Is the curse only activated once she's married, or is it activated once a man falls in love with her? Cuz if it's only activated once she's married. Then I just wouldn't marry her. I get it's the 60's and ideologies were different, but if she keeps it a bean. And the only way he's doomed is by marrying her. Then just don't marry her. Just be a couple thts in it 4 the long haul w/o being married. Im sure the heavens above would understand why they didnt tie the knot. That may be how you have to beat the Eve's bayou version of final destination.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
DOE, that's a great question. Elzora does say the next man who marries her will be dead, but this could be one of those things that implies the cultural equivalent of being together as married since to be shacking up would be frowned upon.
@DOEGrindz
@DOEGrindz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia well if it is a situation where they're doomed only once tying the knot. Id be a shackin it up. Call me "Shaqtin' a Fool" 😆
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
😂😆😂
@KearoJenkins
@KearoJenkins 2 ай бұрын
She told him she was cursed every man she married dies and julian told her you not curse you wounded and its here that I'll plant seeds
@oneinamillennial
@oneinamillennial 2 жыл бұрын
If he’s the next one Mozelle marries, Julian is doomed. Even if he gets out of it. She should’ve told him and let him decide if he wants to believe in the curse or not. She said he wouldn’t have it any other way, so I’d doubt a crazy curse like that would sway him.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Julian was gonna probably ride or die... You're right!
@cshell2001
@cshell2001 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. Once he marries her the curse is in motion. He won't leave because it's his love and marriage that that activates the curse and binds them till his death.
@yasinradee
@yasinradee 2 жыл бұрын
My New Fav Channel 🔥
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Yasin!!!! ❤️
@capricornman89
@capricornman89 Жыл бұрын
Julian Is Doomed Mozelle was literally a Black widow three times over.....and yes, I honestly believe Julian is cursed whether he leaves her or not.
@deeray64130
@deeray64130 Жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed! Not! He either did not come back from looking for his wife or he came back and couldn't marry Mozelle because he could never find his wife to divorce her. Long lives Julian!😋
@deeray64130
@deeray64130 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, Mozelle and Julian established a soul tie and that makes him her husband and he never comes back because 'him dead', but the guy she was having an affair with would have had to die too because of a soul tie. I think I need to watch this movie again 🤔
@DelRayDesi
@DelRayDesi Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I don't think she did 😢
@NaeTheGoddesss
@NaeTheGoddesss 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a new sub and I hope you guys do Jordan Peele movies (get out, us) soon!!!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and welcome aboard! IDK if you have seen our series on NOPE, but that's Jordan Peele too! We love his movies and he is on our radar for discussion for sure! :-) Here's the NOPE Series: kzbin.info/aero/PL-Ks0xVK7ohVVWYbO_4aNMeIZNXJOSxC4
@NaeTheGoddesss
@NaeTheGoddesss 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia thank you... I'm watching now 🥰
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and we'll try to get to those other movies you requested.
@NaeTheGoddesss
@NaeTheGoddesss 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia thank you🙏
@luxbeauty4952
@luxbeauty4952 Жыл бұрын
He would of ran from her for sure which is why she didn’t tell him. She told him about his wife and he believed her
@msladytmsladyt
@msladytmsladyt 5 ай бұрын
The mind is a powerful thing words have power maybe she should have manifested goodness and blessings instead of pain and misery
@MamiTuTu
@MamiTuTu Жыл бұрын
She didn't doom him. The curse was broken when Louis was murdered
@BaileyLondon27
@BaileyLondon27 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve NEVER been this early. Hi y’all ❤
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bailey!!! ❤️
@thelovelyone7737
@thelovelyone7737 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mozelles curse was generational and not targeted, the reason I think this is because the intro of the movie is focused on the ancestor Eve and her name is shown in various clips through out the movie which make me think the curse must have something to do with her. Another reason being that Mozelle and Louis’s father is Never shown or referenced during the movie, neither are any of the other Male figures in the family. They also don’t go into detail about having any extended family members outside of themselves descending from the Baptiste family, as we can see in the part of the movie where the oldest sister is sent to live with her mothers family it’s almost as if going to live with someone on the fathers side isn’t possible. I also think El Zora is a relative of the Baptiste family, the way Mozelle goes to her and whole heartedly believes her without question leaves one to believe they have a longer history than what is initially led on El Zora might just be the sister to either Mozelle’s mother or father and be living with the curse as well as we can see she was living alone with zero family photos during Young Eves visit to her home.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for watching! Have you completed the video, or was this a comment made during the video? Just asking so I can better understand the context of your comment.
@thelovelyone7737
@thelovelyone7737 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia after sorry just a conjunction of thoughts
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Oh okay. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making any assumptions. 😊 Your interpretation is interesting. So do you think Mozelle told Julian about the curse?
@thelovelyone7737
@thelovelyone7737 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia yes and no I think Mozelle let’s Julian have his own interpretation of the curse probably assuming him now knowing would give him more time
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
How does know about the curse give him more time?
@RainChoc_
@RainChoc_ 9 ай бұрын
So is the curse w/e man falls in love w/ her & vice versa will pass or if they married her they will pass ? My thing is why marry them, just be in love in a common law marriage 😅.
@thaddeuspeterson2077
@thaddeuspeterson2077 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed! o_0 1) Mozelle should've told Julian... 2) He had a right to know Mozelle's condition, in it's entirety as it effects him too! 3) They're still married even if separated. He can't escape! Some circumstance will occur to suck him back into her web....
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thaddeus and thanks for watching!!! Okay, but what if he divorces Mozelle? Will that get him out of danger?
@thaddeuspeterson2077
@thaddeuspeterson2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia The divorce would've severed the connection needed to continue the curse.
@HashiraTengen
@HashiraTengen 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed.☠️
@MonaLisaFire
@MonaLisaFire 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. But what if when eve started having her visions it changes something for the aunt so many when he dies she can go with him
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought... How would Eve's visions change Mozelle's curse though? I'm thinking that the visions simply show you the future and other events, and don't necessarily have an effect on the future themselves.
@Victoria.Henderson
@Victoria.Henderson 2 жыл бұрын
I think she told him. I also don't think he was doomed.
@charisejackson7353
@charisejackson7353 2 жыл бұрын
Julien is doomed if he stays with Mozelle but if he leaves like you said then it should be safe eve's bayou is one of my all time favorite movies my kids are sick of it because every time it comes on I watch it lol.
@bingo5852
@bingo5852 2 жыл бұрын
But like u guys say it's a generational curse. , Not just on Mozel, but her mother too, and Louis and everyone. What if every every man in the family that gets married dies. And every woman in the family who gets married ,her husband dies. Maybe Baptiste the Second messed with somebody wife too , hence the curse
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps... But in our theory the generational curse directly affects the Batiste women. The only males in the family that we are aware of are Louis and Poe. The reason Louis was affected is through Cisely, not because he was directly cursed... According to our theory.
@bingo5852
@bingo5852 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia I love y'all page , please keep it up. I love the theories
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your questions making me think about this movie even more! 😊
@imluvbabygurl81
@imluvbabygurl81 2 жыл бұрын
Naw he’s doomed cus she didnt tell him. She seemed like she was about to then she said instead that she’s barren. I feel like she full well believed the curse was true but she didnt want to lose him(might have even read him to see what his reaction would be) so she chose not to tell him. Its giving foolish hope
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Kali, I can't argue with that! Thanks for watching!
@UTBigVic
@UTBigVic 2 жыл бұрын
Elzora just reporting the news and she tells facts only. It is a wrap for Julian. Mozelle didn’t share she is the blk widow because she is selfish. A man’s love is life I don’t see him sticking around if he knew, especially after his wife bounced.
@talisabrewer835
@talisabrewer835 10 ай бұрын
Please I need to know someone tell me why was she cursed in the first place or how did she get cursed .... ALSO JULIAN IS DOOMED😮
@saybrittaney
@saybrittaney 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I think Julian will continue to be curse after dealing with Mozelle romantically, even after leaving her if that was the case lol
@teesacquiredtaste
@teesacquiredtaste 2 жыл бұрын
Jillian is doomed! 😂😂
@THE1804SHOWCHAPTERTWO
@THE1804SHOWCHAPTERTWO 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was so traumatizing 🥴
@trueteller2362
@trueteller2362 2 жыл бұрын
it's not talking about after the movie is done and over with or is y'all talking about a real story and you're not telling them
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain?
@talisabrewer835
@talisabrewer835 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I know it's a fake story but I seems so real
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Fiction is wonderful when the stories are well written! 😊
@coreywalker5651
@coreywalker5651 Жыл бұрын
JULIAN IS DOOMED
@whiskeybrown262
@whiskeybrown262 Жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed. Doooooomed!
@rmitchell3825
@rmitchell3825 2 жыл бұрын
If she chooses not to marry a man and just be with him. Would he still die?
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great question!
@sharailcunningham8143
@sharailcunningham8143 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna play Devil's Advocate...Let's say Moselle did eventually tell Julian the truth. Let's look at it this way, I keep going back to what she said, Her and Louis are one in the SAME. What if after Louis' funeral she realized that What El Zora said is true. She too eventually would meet her untimely demise, Remember when El Zora told Eve she buried the coffin " Down there, where ALL them Batiste are buried. If the curse is on the ENTIRE FAMILY, Moselle is not EXCLUDED.So maybe after the funeral she decided to come clean to Julian, Remember she said HE WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY, So she decided if he loves me this much to sacrifice himself for me,maybe GOD will be kind and I can go with HIM, when it's his time, or she's gonna go anyway cuz she doesn't want to live the rest of her life alone..... WHEW CHILE 😳What Y'ALL Think 🤔
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sharail!!! 😊 So I think the crux of the curse and the torture of it all is that Mozelle is left behind and separated from her loves. She will eventually die, as anyone else, but she's gotten to the point where she has accepted her fate and the curse... So much so that she hopes to die WITH Julian, rather than be left behind. The curse doesn't work like that though. As far as the "where all the Batistes are buried" comment, I think this indicates that the family has a long line and name in town, and also that they are prestigious there, having their own cemetery perhaps.
@sharailcunningham8143
@sharailcunningham8143 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia OK OK 👍🏾 👌🏾
@sugarsmacks250
@sugarsmacks250 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Julian made it ALWAYS BE THAT WAY‼️ JULIAN IS DOOMED‼️
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Sugar Smacks you say he's got NO CHANCE, huh? 😆
@sugarsmacks250
@sugarsmacks250 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia lol I don’t wish it on him but that’s the pattern in this case 🤷🏽‍♀️
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey we gotta be honest about it and the pattern doesn't make things sound good for him.
@ceevans232
@ceevans232 2 жыл бұрын
I believe she told him because at the end she said he wouldn’t have it any other way . So he accepted the baggage even if she did tell him
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
That's possible. Do you think her waiting to tell him was wrong? If she indeed told him when you say, that would mean that she waited until he was fully in love before he found out.
@ceevans232
@ceevans232 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia definitely omitting that from the first conversation was wrong . so I do believe she was scared to say more about the deaths, however afterwards I feel that she could’ve divulged more information as their relationship progressed. At that point he had already determined he wanted to be with her regardless of her curse
@tonymolatto1904
@tonymolatto1904 2 жыл бұрын
No anyone who marries Mozelle is cursed. That is what the witch said.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
But what if they divorce?
@tonymolatto1904
@tonymolatto1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia No the witch said anyone who marries her. The men never divorce or she will cheat on them. Mabe that is why she cheated on her first husband because she wanted a divorce & he did not she cheated & what happened happened. The men are hit with cupid''s arrow. Mabe that is why the third husband got drunk because he was under that cupid spell. She attracts death struck men. A military dude a musician & her first hubby being bold.
@crispylanding9685
@crispylanding9685 4 күн бұрын
JULIAN IS DOOMED!
@sethunyanikuru1079
@sethunyanikuru1079 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomeddddd, I think they probably made it once they got off of Eve's bayou they were okay I think the land was cursed
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sethunya!!! I love the idea that the curse is connected to the land! If they moved to Houston they might live a long and healthy life together!
@sethunyanikuru1079
@sethunyanikuru1079 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia right maybe they ran into lyric and Jason oh no they went to Dallas or did they 🤷🏾‍♀️🤣
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Lyric and Jason are in the upper room!!! Bwahahaha!!!
@carolmiller9583
@carolmiller9583 24 күн бұрын
Julian is gorgeous, love will survive! If he becomes man of The Most High!
@ginapayne744
@ginapayne744 2 жыл бұрын
I can't express how much I've disliked this movie. It's so much wrong with it. I don't think she ever told him that he would be doomed for marrying her.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
If it's not too triggering, why do you dislike the movie so much?
@ginapayne744
@ginapayne744 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia oh sure. It's the family dynamic as a whole. There's so much swept under the rug. The marriage was less than ideal, but kept up for appearances. The father daughter relationship especially bothered me.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I understand.
@ebonywilliams-dillard4550
@ebonywilliams-dillard4550 2 жыл бұрын
@@ginapayne744 being from a family that swept so many things under the rug I can understand your frustration but yet unfortunately for me it's so relatable o In that way... so many secrets I'm still finding out at the age of 35 is a big reason I'm just to myself and household these days. Back in those times secrets were by the dozen you'd be surprised what has been kept from you and others close to you . 💫
@ginapayne744
@ginapayne744 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebonywilliams-dillard4550 same here I'm still finding out things that I wish weren't true. It's awful. Maybe that's why the movie resonated so negatively with me.
@kjohnsonbutler
@kjohnsonbutler 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed! Lol
@jeanellnewmuis2167
@jeanellnewmuis2167 Жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed 😢
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed I don't think so but there you go :(
@fieryblaze1737
@fieryblaze1737 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is dimmed.
@willanbel
@willanbel 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is Doomed
@sheebsz7269
@sheebsz7269 2 жыл бұрын
Julian us Doomed!!!
@triced1376
@triced1376 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed!
@ayannalowry266
@ayannalowry266 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed
@UNKLP66
@UNKLP66 Жыл бұрын
JULIAN IS DOOMED ‼️🕷
@SoSaudi1500
@SoSaudi1500 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is dooooooooomed
@lashondawalker3959
@lashondawalker3959 Жыл бұрын
Julian doomed
@belleshiddentreasures04
@belleshiddentreasures04 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed.
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
He sure is!!!! Thanks so much for watching!
@jasper1949
@jasper1949 2 жыл бұрын
He’s doom regardless of she told him or he heard gossip around town… cause he touched her already like the rest….
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
Dang Jasper, there's NO HOPE for Julian!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
By the wway, I just came across a comment you wrote a year ago asking for this movie!! We finally covered it with two videos so far. Thanks for the suggestion! :-)
@jasper1949
@jasper1949 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxiomAmnesia finally cool!
@mabnurse
@mabnurse 2 жыл бұрын
Julian is doomed…. Unless he can escape the black widows web!
@AxiomAmnesia
@AxiomAmnesia 2 жыл бұрын
C'mon Michelle, what are some of the ways Julian might be able to escape the Black Widow!?!? Now I feel compelled to think this through fully! 😂
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